And thousands of years later… people are still using them to shock and terrify with the sound!

@drumdotpizza

Жыл бұрын

I've always loved china cymbals when recorded. One of those odd realities that they are much mellower on playback than when you're in the room with them (or outside, a football field away!)

@haypayne8937

Жыл бұрын

Exactly.

@83cat

Жыл бұрын

Designed to be Horrible Sound, and sound Trash, they use them to slam at thief (Night guard used when encounter thief or suspicious) and prisoners , the sound are trashy or noisy some what like “white noise", to interfere enemies to communicate and transfer massage by voice and almost any sounding components, white noise resonates in a wide band "pitch" and disturb most sound information.

@specialkonacid6574

Жыл бұрын

Lol their HORRIBLE sound 😂

"...to shock and terrify their enemies with their horrible sound" 🤣🤣 Keep that in mind when purchasing one for over $200😂

@snickers6125

Жыл бұрын

You leave my mienl byzance 20" equilibrium ride alone!

@Que934

Жыл бұрын

@@snickers6125and my…oh wait I’m poor

@GeoffBosco

Жыл бұрын

A $50 Wuhan is perfectly fine for my China cymbal tastes. 😂

@handidrummed

11 ай бұрын

My Agop Turk would like a word 😊

Goes great with breakdowns.

I did NOT know that. Now I do.

I know when I hear 4 slow hits on one it’s about to get real.

From Ancient Wars in China to Heavy Metal Music, What a history this thing has.

“Shock the enemy with the horrible sound”

@joandrumz3176

Жыл бұрын

Every metal drummer ever: 💀

@SlyHikari03

9 ай бұрын

It’s so gnarly!

@user-tw9uf9pn3g

5 ай бұрын

Only One china cymbal: metal af Two china cymbals: UCN noise

Awesome... I use them for super accents. There is nothing like having high & low china type cymbals to accent your Metal command

@DesignRhythm

Жыл бұрын

Yes they work great in the proper place; Punch/attack.. the inverse of a long cymbal decay which is really nice.

@KevinJones-qr2jh

3 ай бұрын

So... No BELL?!😮 Never saw a real one up close. Thanks for the learning😊

It directly relates to the sound though. You cant get around that. Give it a bormal bell and it would sound differently.

Wow, very interesting. I absolutely love drum history lessons like this.. good stuff.

Thank you for that historical bit of trivia. Now I'm going to dazzle all my Drummer compatriots with your acumen. Le😎

Now that used by Lars Ulrich lol

I'm glad every china I own doesn't have the wierd bell cause the bell ruins every china cymbal that has it

@drumdotpizza

Жыл бұрын

I think the only ones that actually have that specific bell shape are made in China! All that I have seen are of a very flexible alloy that gives, though holds its shape. I seriously doubt its 80/20 bronze! Paiste uses squared bells on many of their china models, but not quite so severe. And, of course, Zildjian and Sabian couldn't care less about a square bell!

they're also traditionally used in some lion dance variants (Pixiu dance, Qilin dance, etc.)

@tajbaber9425

9 ай бұрын

Wuhan cymbals calls them lion cymbals.

“To shock and terrify enemies with a horrible sound” Metal heads and people who love to Dj0nt: *I see this as an absolute win*

Wow, nice fact I didn't know that!

I knew these were handles but really never heard of the use by the military wow!

When the breakdown hits BOOM be prepared.😅

Never knew that. More videos please!!

At last... I will be able sleep now knowing this... 👍

And now it’s used for breakdowns in metalcore.

I have 2 different zildjain china symbols. They both sound great. Although one of them is cracked and drilled.

Well, I would say that's moreso right in terms of the actual origins of cymbals made in general. Zildjian was the first cymbalmaker, in which the process was handed down to the firstborn son (and in modern times of acceptance, the firstborn daughter, if one never had a son). The cymbal making process started in Turkey and Istanbul during the Byzantine empire. I'm sure that China followed suit around that time as well.

I have one and totally dig the sound. RLRRLRLLRLRRLRLL... CHINA crash!

In war, it was always bad to be a drummer. Maybe that's why we're so awesome! 😂

Very cool. I’ve been destroying my fellow drumming advisories with cymbals for aloooong time, makes sense.

I've been playing in heavy bands for 20 years; every drummer I've played with or watched at gigs has had at least one china, and I've never seen a bell like that

@DesignRhythm

Жыл бұрын

The Wuhan line still has them. Cymbal manufacturers aren't going to waste the money on the extra material (for that bell) since no one is using them with their hands anymore.

@drumdotpizza

Жыл бұрын

Really? All the 'legit' chinas (from China... like Wuhans, etc.) have it, and Paiste has long included a square bell (not quite the same, but similar) on many of their china models for decades. Zildjian and Sabian pretty much stick with normal bells, however.

@nuberiffic

Жыл бұрын

@@drumdotpizza yes, really. And China is a style of cymbal. It doesn't have to come from china

@vincentzito3933

Жыл бұрын

I had a little 10-inch Wu Han China cymbal and it had it...

@Assimilator702

8 ай бұрын

@@nuberifficYou’ve never seen a Wuhan or Paiste China type? These square bells are very abundant in the cymbal world.

No wonder they are used in Metal so much haha

@drumdotpizza

Жыл бұрын

Precisely!! ;)

Dude! 💣💥🎶💯🙌🤔

Yes I knew that.

@hanselmansell7555

Жыл бұрын

I don't believe you but if you did why didn't you tell us before?

@Kiekhaefer6

Жыл бұрын

@@hanselmansell7555 I thought everyone knew the bells were handles. I saw it I photos taken of a Chinese parade. We adapted them to the kit

@hanselmansell7555

Жыл бұрын

@@Kiekhaefer6 tbh i never knew 😊

They sound like someone kicking the screen door...can't imagine packin that junk around

@drumdotpizza

Жыл бұрын

Oh, I myself LOVE China cymbals!

@jojocono4887

Жыл бұрын

@@drumdotpizza good for you....I try to play cymbals that actually sound good..haha a cymbal shouldn't make you wince every time you hit it...but that's my opinion... I don't pack cymbals around because they look cool......the music I play doesn't require a cymbal that sounds like someone wacking a car hood with a shovel ... China cymbals are made to sell not play ..haha this is my opinion don't get your panties in a knot

@drumdotpizza

Жыл бұрын

🤣

@jojocono4887

Жыл бұрын

@@drumdotpizza I got to thinking about what you said...it was actually gongs not China's that were used to summons the warriors and warn the villages of attack 🤔.. a gongs sound travels further and lasts longer...but I wasn't there and don't remember what book I read that in so..???? Who knows

Are china cymbals at risk of cracking more easily in the bell area with this format? since they would be made to be used in the way mentioned in the video. I mean, the "canadian" type, didnt have better support on the stand? 

@drumdotpizza

11 ай бұрын

Don't really know the answer to this, actually. I've not known China cymbals to crack around the bell much, though I generally don't crack cymbals myself. I do think that the tendency to mount them upside down places far more stress on the hole in the center of the cymbal and likely makes cracking here greater. I, myself, tend to mount Chinas upright (the bell oriented like all other cymbals) for the slight additional sustain that position sometimes provides (and it doesn't place the extra stress on the hole) .

A literal weapon of mass percussion. Nope I did not. But am a far better person now that is for sure! Seriously. And I'm sure this conversation has already actually happened at least once: "I need some advice on purchasing a new China cymbal". "What kind of tone are you going for?" "A horrible one that shocks and terrifies my enemies...." "Say no more."

Aww hell I thought they were bronze age Wok Lids.

Good ol Wuhans lol

weirdly this is the only thing you want to be made in china

WEIRD....🥁

Your statement makes entirely too much sense and I refuse to believe it because of reasons. But seriously, damn. Had no idea.

Is that a king crimson red shirt?

@drumdotpizza

Жыл бұрын

Sorry, no. That shirt features a simple analog VU meter. It was a gift from my sons for my birthday last year. I wear it more often than I should, probably (I just realized I'm wearing it in both of the only two shorts I've made so far!).

My Sabian Paragon China doesn’t have a handle 😞

@drumdotpizza

Жыл бұрын

I guess you'd could call it a "Canadian China." ;)

@BIGDADDYBALLZ420

Жыл бұрын

@@drumdotpizza good idea bro

The Bell on my Sabian China doesn't look like that.

@drumdotpizza

Жыл бұрын

Nope... it's Canadian :)

@inka0268

Жыл бұрын

Because true Chinas are made in China. 😉 That being said I’ve had Wuhans and other Chinese equivalents as well as Zildjian oriental trash Chinas and a really great 20” Paiste 2000 sound reflector (thought it isn’t reflective no more) that sounds awesome. But still… you can’t get a more authentic China sound than from an authentic China. Turns out some folks don’t really like a super trashy authentic China sound. No worries it’s all personal preference. ✌️😁👍