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@aleksandarmakedonski8282

2 жыл бұрын

7/8

@ackovski

2 жыл бұрын

You missed the Macedonian 7/8 :)

@aleksandarmakedonski8282

2 жыл бұрын

@@ackovski не може да ја удене 🤣

@ackovski

2 жыл бұрын

@@aleksandarmakedonski8282 ќе го научиме македонски, одма ќе го фати ритамот... :)))

@vitalytravin631

2 жыл бұрын

Highlander?! McLeod lives! There could be only one!

Observations: 1. He is a wizard 2. He's helping us count time Conclusion: he is a time wizard

@kinio73

2 жыл бұрын

maybe he's a pinball wizard

@guerilla2013

2 жыл бұрын

This needs more likes!!! 👍🏼

@jessiefrancis2396

2 жыл бұрын

Subdivided...:you mean sudivisions...? In the high school halls,in the shopping malls?

@jessiefrancis2396

2 жыл бұрын

Hey...yah...like all Native American music ever

@jordanvaca6007

2 жыл бұрын

awesome, he is the the clover kingdom king

This has the energy of 2012 KZread

@goldenageofdinosaurs7192

2 жыл бұрын

I love it!

@MyrdalMx

2 жыл бұрын

Best year ever

@zongzoogly4549

2 жыл бұрын

I had to triple check that this video wasn't 7-10 years old while watching it

@CreateToInitiate

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@edsonmontana

2 жыл бұрын

si

For those who still don't understand time signatures, the top number indicates the number of beats in a bar and the bottom number indicates the length or emphasis of the beat. So although something like 7/4 might seem terrifying, it really just means there are 7 crotchets (quarter notes) in a bar. Sometimes a composer will pick a combo of simpler time signatures to help the player understand the emphasis better. Say the 7/4 bar was actually just a 4/4 followed by a 3/4 repeated. You might write it in 4/4 3/4 or in 7/4 with accents or other notiation so the player knows your intention. But with all music there really isn't any true rules. As long as you can convey to the player how it needs to be done, you can use any markings you see fit.

@user-ws1fs8re1u

7 ай бұрын

Omg, thank you! It finally makes sense. Great explanation.

@petegregory517

4 ай бұрын

Why I gave up piano once it got into all that. Did go to drums but played by ear……”yeah, good, sounds right, it’s ok.”

@tedhansen3846

3 ай бұрын

I just watched the Gene Krupa story. He did two awesome things: Rose to stardom as an ultra soloist and accompaniest then learned music 😊

@TomCruz54321

2 ай бұрын

I never knew drumming was this complicated. I have a new appreciation for drummers that can keep time. In the past I only focused on drum solos. 😁

@SiEmG

Ай бұрын

thnx

This video is a godsend! Nevermind me leaving these timestamps here for future reference. 0:51 1/1 1:19 2/2 2:00 3/4 2:28 4/4 2:57 5/4 3:34 6/8 3:49 7/4 4:59 8/8 5:33 9/8 6:44 10/4 7:24 11/2 8:57 12/8 10:03 13/16 11:02 14/8

Usually wizards don’t have 2 wands, he must be powerful

@Itsunclegabby

2 жыл бұрын

I have lots actually. Different uses. :)

@tootiejamba

2 жыл бұрын

I recommend everyone listen to Uriah Heep, The Wizard

@commandercaptain4664

2 жыл бұрын

That's Dungeon Master territory.

@sirsteez9477

2 жыл бұрын

@@Itsunclegabby I hope u arent saying what I think ur saying

@pandorasboxofstuff186

2 жыл бұрын

He’s definitely sayings what you think he’s saying

A wise man said once - "if you stop counting like a dumb nerd, everything is in 4/4" and I think thats beautiful

@gabrielfestini

2 жыл бұрын

I am genuinely curious, is this somewhat true?^^

@nielsurban6392

2 жыл бұрын

@@gabrielfestini yes, you could technically count everything in 4/4. But then you have so many parameters going on, especially if you play with a band. So it is just easier to count it in a different or "right" time signature

@absurdist5630

2 жыл бұрын

A wise man said once - "Ey ohne Scheiß, ich hab das Gefühl die Kerzen ziehen die Wärme ausm Raum"

@LiMCRiMZ

2 жыл бұрын

This is where we trade theory for true musicality.

@einarabelc5

2 жыл бұрын

That man never had to transcribe music.

Massive props for the NIN shoutout. Trent writes a lot of his music in odd time signatures and people often don't notice because he uses so many sound layers.

I have a story I would like to share. I played drums in a cover band all through high school and when it came time to go to college I said ok I will major in music. The first day of music theory I knew it was a bad decision. I could not read music and had not a clue. I took drums and I thought ok I can do this. Again I could not read music the band director gave us sheet music for drums the first day. There was only one other student in the class besides me. I always let him play first and just repeated what I heard him play. It did not take long to change majors. I was the type of drummer I could listen to a song and repeat what I heard I was ok but not like you man. Enjoyed your video you are very knowledgable and a great drummer.

@13donstalos

3 ай бұрын

You can play be ear. You're in good company (e.g., Lennon and McCartney).

Drink, skate, wear wizard hats, advertise for knives, and teach people how to play the drums. You seem like a fun fella.

@zachlewis9751

2 жыл бұрын

This is obviously Radagast

@zachlewis9751

2 жыл бұрын

This is obviously Radagast

@zachlewis9751

2 жыл бұрын

This is obviously Radagast

@zachlewis9751

2 жыл бұрын

This is obviously Radagast

@luka-gr1qx

2 жыл бұрын

in this world you are either a fun fella or a fun fella

The fact that you got through an entire demonstration of time signatures without a single tool song is very impressive

@salival.

Жыл бұрын

all I ever think about when talking about odd signatures is tool 😭

@giddycadet

Жыл бұрын

or king gizzard !

@bobthebear1246

Жыл бұрын

@@salival. What about Rush?

@salival.

Жыл бұрын

Them too sometimes

@BigMuff75

Жыл бұрын

Tool, the working class man's prog band.

8/8 and 16/16 is useful for understanding changing time signatures in certain songs. Dance of eternity has a section with changing 16 times with the odd bar of 16/16 because its easier to digest in that context rather than seeing 4/4 written between a bar of 11/16 and 13/16.

Really enjoy this video! While watching I realized a lot of Mother 3's music has drum beats with more uncommon time signatures, which is why it can be difficult to combo in-game. 13/16 has captivated me completely.

@jacobnacho

Жыл бұрын

He actually made a video on Masked Man’s Theme from Mother 3! It’s a good one kzread.info/dash/bejne/goWV0qWLYc7Zc5M.html

@paccie9689

Жыл бұрын

The song for the first masked man battle is in approximately 29/16. I’ve never gotten a 16 hit on it before

I never imagined Hogwarts teaches music now.

@cai2727

2 жыл бұрын

The disrespect to professor flitwick

@cianleonizoabad

2 жыл бұрын

@@cai2727 True. Professor Flitwick be the reason for the ballroom dance music

@PLNKYELLOWBLACK

2 жыл бұрын

Swish and flick

@dundersvenska9455

2 жыл бұрын

That bard magic you know

@brevyansingollo1411

2 жыл бұрын

Music is a type of magic you know

This guy seems like a prog rock nerd who wouldn't be out of place in the 70s. I like him.

@lfader

2 жыл бұрын

Agree. This is a 70s time machine very cool demo/ info.

@tolsen8212

2 жыл бұрын

PS: I'm getting some weird comments in my inbox that are then being deleted. Note: I'm not saying he IS a prog drummer, as in his signature style...I'm saying he seems like someone who is INTO prog rock in my retro 70's movie I'm casting him in inside my brain.

@davebryan1890

2 жыл бұрын

You're casting this guy in a 70's retro movie in your head - I'm gonna have to nope on that, I've spoken with the people and this is something we need in full production

@MattLathrum

2 жыл бұрын

I was hoping for Genesis Apocalypse in 9/8 from Supper's Ready.

@jcfiggy

2 жыл бұрын

geek but yes

8/8 is generally for mixed meters like 3+3+2, it’s not super common but sometimes fits the music just a bit better

@MrButterInaCan

9 ай бұрын

Was gonna leave this comment. Two triplets followed by a duplet is way easier to read in 8/8 imo.

@callasocrazywow

9 ай бұрын

@@MrButterInaCan yeah the way of writing them as mixed meters is like it was designed to look as confusing as possible

@luizsouto4019

Ай бұрын

I totally agree!!!

man I am stoned and was thinking about time signatures, realized I wasn't 100% on the concept, so off to the internet I went and so many other vids literally just spent 10 minutes talking about it with ZERO examples; finally I find your vid and you come thru with actual examples from music. My man!!! My absolute guy!!! Thank you!!!

@jimlahey3919

3 ай бұрын

What a deja vu. That is EXCATLY my story. Except for I’m also eating Doritos and getting crumbs all over by brand new Roland kit

@Michaelobama184

3 ай бұрын

​@@jimlahey3919I've been playing Drums on and off for 39 years mostly self taught with a lesson here and there and I actually got lucky on some of it but I was always a Led Zeppelin fan. Not so much a Tool fan. But all these different time signatures. WOW. It really opened up my mind. The 4/4 really is a regular ol time signature but it has so many uses. Bernard Purdy and John Bonham have always put me in some kind of trance. And Niel Peart 😊

this dude seems like the chill upperclassmen that helps all the freshmen during marching season

@Rio_1111

2 жыл бұрын

Muhammad Avdol!

@dinonuggies5551

2 жыл бұрын

@@Rio_1111 YES! I am!

@DrowningFish429

2 жыл бұрын

It feels good being your 1000th like... Oddly satisfying lol

@bitspacemusic

2 жыл бұрын

One upperclassman helps. Many upperclassmen *help. Carry on.

8/8 is specifically useful for when plying music that has dancing choreographed to it. Dancers always count to 8 so it’s no trouble using 8/8 time for drummers. It makes it much easier to work with each other

@momaamp

Жыл бұрын

8/8 also is used in agrupations of 3 - 3 - 2

@kailin98

Жыл бұрын

And 5 6 7 8!

@frankfertier34

Жыл бұрын

they don't count in 8/8: they count by packs of eight beats in quarters, never in eights (spent my whole life playing for dance classes), easier to manage

@frankfertier34

Жыл бұрын

@@kailin98 nonsense ?

@KillianDeaton

Жыл бұрын

@@frankfertier34 you can change the technical timing to adjust for that

8/8 is useful when you format it as an odd time signature (such as 3+3+2) and you want the 8th notes grouped in that specific way. An example of this is Frank Ticheli's "Vesuvius" which has 7 measures of 8/8 somewhere in the beginning of the song.

@stirpiano

9 ай бұрын

3+3+2 is extremely common in 4/4 music

@bonglord430

5 ай бұрын

No Quarter by Led Zeppelin and Times Like These by Foo Fighters are 8/8

Wow. HIGHLY useful and well demonstrated. THANK YOU, COBB the Drummer!

"Remember that Jazz song that was played in an odd time signature?" "Yes, 4/4."

@DJIncendration

2 жыл бұрын

I think you mean 5/4.

@davialmeida2352

2 жыл бұрын

@@DJIncendration i think he means that there are so many jazz songs with odd time signatures that the normal (4/4) becomes odd

@salahhambli3064

2 жыл бұрын

@@DJIncendration r/woooosh

@maxymetalman

2 жыл бұрын

Most jazz is in 4/4

I got lost after 6/8, but continued watching just because da wizard is entertaining

@norcodaev

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. I’ve never played the drums a day in my life, and this dude might as well be speaking a foreign language, but I too kept watching because da wizard is entertaining. 🍻

@slinkygreyhound6994

2 жыл бұрын

Apex legend mirage

@user-sz4bf3uq6u

2 жыл бұрын

i wasn't and i'm 10.. mabye because i'm a drummer lol

@mroldmcfuckinjenkins2423

2 жыл бұрын

thats literally the easiest fucking thing there

@ZurditaDinamita

2 жыл бұрын

The last two rhythms have broken my mind. And I refer to physical pain, how can drummers dominate that beasts? e_e

I've watched less than half your video so far and now you have a lifetime follower. Your explanations are perfect man! Way to teach.

@Cobb the Drummer I'm glad that you, and others, post things like this. It's very educational for all people out there who wish to learn about odd time signatures. I was working on a couple myself with 15, 17, 19, and 21/8 for a friend today. You should do a few of those! Well done, by the way.

cant wait for this to be 12 years old with millions of views

@generallygrateful1952

2 жыл бұрын

You'll literally have to wait for 12 years

@savage22bolt32

2 жыл бұрын

I can't wait that long. Gunna do something else.

@morningstar8217

2 жыл бұрын

Nearly a million already

@savage22bolt32

2 жыл бұрын

@@generallygrateful1952 That's 378 million seconds. 60x60x24x365x12 = 378,432,000.

@chubbyrain1813

2 жыл бұрын

cant wait for this comment to be 12 years old

I've been saying Punk Rock is just Polka for years. So nice to hear someone else gets it.

@behindthen0thing

2 жыл бұрын

Hmmm

@binglebop5877

2 жыл бұрын

Old school death metal is extreme polka

@JeffWithAnF

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve said the same thing about certain thrash metal songs. Makes sense since thrash is punk rock combined with New wave of English metal.

@caeswingsproductions3995

2 жыл бұрын

As a big punk fan, and also love polka/irish/folk/Celtic music, yes it's a spot on observation

@geoffreycarter3981

2 жыл бұрын

I tried telling my parents this in high school. they didn't go for it, but a small part of me thinks they appreciated my academic approach to justifying my punkness.

Dude, you're a legend. It's truly a skill to show something like this and make it make sense (not to mention relevant) for many. Kudos!

Dude! This is great! Thank you. Your energy and approach are awesome. So many drum demos are full of hubris and condescension. You rock! And I will wash my hands. Thank you!

JD Salinger presents: Time Signatures: What Do They Know? Do They Know Things?? Let’s Find Out!

@kvbvs6457

2 жыл бұрын

lol i was thinking exact same thing

@HarveyCastletineJackson

2 жыл бұрын

Erica! You can't be here, this place is filled with children

@jacobolemosleiro

2 жыл бұрын

What's this? A crossover episode??

@Joverover

2 жыл бұрын

I knew I wasn't the only one lmao

@Oosjhteuikmm

2 жыл бұрын

You're a legend

After dozens of explanations, I've never understood time signatures and I still don't. But I loved watching this.

@justandardprocedure

2 жыл бұрын

Played guitar for 25 years. Mediocre drummer at best. I definitely can't wrap my head around what he's telling me. It just strikes me as, " just follow the drummer. "

@fincentvangogh

2 жыл бұрын

they're for playing, reading, and understanding music. they don't make a huge difference when listening to music, tho. essentially just gives you a vague idea of how to count and play a piece. such as 3/4 taking a slower, more elegant tone compared to 2/2 being faster and more exciting. they also tell you when a downbeat is. they aren't the most essential when it comes to easier pieces, but they make such a big difference in more complex pieces with how much easier they make it to understand tl;dr: they're to make sharing music between people easier

@shasta_le_bab

2 жыл бұрын

idk if its what you wanted but if i ever want to find a time signature, i tap along to the beat and it comes naturally, thinking too hard about it makes it more difficult imo

@cowboybob7093

2 жыл бұрын

@@justandardprocedure On your keyboard hit shift + < and slow it down.

@deadmanswife3625

2 жыл бұрын

@@cowboybob7093 thanks Cowboy Bob. The only one I understand is 3/4 time the Walt's

Tremendously informative, thank you. I was watched like five vids prior to this and it was all "talking" about timing... but you did the real thing, thank you!!

This might just be one of my favorite videos because he finds a way to play beats in the craziest of time signatures. Amazing job! Made me subscribe.

I really thought the sponsorship was a parody... Well, I now own a knife.

@thecoreybrown

2 жыл бұрын

Haha

@leth4_ul

2 жыл бұрын

lmaoo

@martinheath5947

2 жыл бұрын

😊

@IuriSigma

2 жыл бұрын

ikr? His delivery was stellar. Most good advert/endorsement I see on youtube relies heavily on text or editting, but this guy was more convincing in his acting.

@Beaner..

2 жыл бұрын

@@thecoreybrown why does haha translate to lol lol

Thank you for explaining that Outkast song

@aureumursa1833

2 жыл бұрын

I honestly never thought of it as anything more than a standard time signature

@weehudyy

2 жыл бұрын

@Bad_Script Yep , that is how I counted it . The first time I played it I had never heard it and was doing a walk in with a covers band at a wedding ... The bass player was also a drummer and conducted the ONE TWO when it came around then went back to singing ... All made sense after that

@bakerfam1000

2 жыл бұрын

@@weehudyy That is correct, harkens back to the drama on tiktok if it was in 11 or 4/2 alternating. It's the 4/2 as someone who has seen it notated for pep band tunes

@weehudyy

2 жыл бұрын

@@bakerfam1000 Used a lot in country music . Townes Van Zant's ' Pancho and Leftie ... Bob Dylan slips in the bar of two four every now and then ... Then there is the mid section weirdness of King Crimson's Starless ... 13/8 , but break it into two bars of 3/4 two of 2/4 and another of 3/4 ( 1-2-3 , 2-2-3 , 1-2 , 1-2 , 1-2-3 ) and away ya go .

@cathalmckinley6297

2 жыл бұрын

Love you Eric !!

Masterpiece! Thank you Cobb, for this amazing 12 minutes.

The amazing thing about rush is how they disguise odd time signatures. Usually bands will emphasize odd time signatures to show off, but to me the best bands can make you nod your head along and you won’t know that it’s something jazzy

For anyone looking for rock songs in the rare 13/16 time signature, Firth of Fifth by Genesis along with the equally rare 15/16 . Phil Collins catches a lot of flak for going commercial, but he was an excellent drummer.

@demonslayer5613

2 жыл бұрын

Phils 70s genesis drumming is some of the best ever

@RevolutionATX

2 жыл бұрын

Saw Genesis in 1984, they had two drummers. Phil Collins and the other drummer did a drum solo duel/duet that was the coldest shit I've ever seen live.

@bryanayers4557

2 жыл бұрын

the song dance on a volcano by genesis has some odd stuff in it as well.

@sono9121

2 жыл бұрын

Huh neat

@smith507

2 жыл бұрын

And then you hear Phil Collins' work on Brand X

obsessed with how easily and quickly this guy helped me understand a concept that made literally zero sense to me before

@esmooth919

2 жыл бұрын

You know, it's crazy. Maybe it's because I was always musically inclined, but I always found myself counting beats, looking for the downbeat, which is how I unofficially learned meter. Lol

@ElderCM

2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate this video trying to teach me, but I just can't hear it. I suck.

@Sophistry0001

2 жыл бұрын

It's good stuff. When you really break it down it's just fractions. I always tried to explain time signatures to students as (how many)/(what kind). How many beats is the top number, what kind of beat is the bottom number. And just like fractions, the stuff that maths out the same can kinda be inter changeable depending on how you are feeling it. So 1/1, 2/2, 4/4, 3/4 and 6/8, etc.

@raperepublicanwomentheysee1786

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sophistry0001 very interesting

@raperepublicanwomentheysee1786

2 жыл бұрын

@@ElderCM You'll get it eventually. No rush... Drumming, much like life, is all about timing and pace.

Incredible job with amazing examples, You sir have absolutely earned yourself a subscriber, from one musician to another, KEEP IT UP!

Awesome thanks I appreciate your explaining and your simplified way of demonstrating the examples.

Self-taught drummer here. Been playing quite a while, but since I am a working man I lacked the time to really spend the time. Yet, I still play, and I play fairly well. Long story short ... I always considered myself a 4/4 drummer. Ya know ... Rock drummer. Well ... after watching this it turns out I am not just a 4/4 drummer. I can play lots of different time signatures. I just don't know how to count them. Thanks man .... Made my day.

@DecrepitationMetalAB

2 жыл бұрын

I just watched it today and I feel the same way

@YnseSchaap

2 жыл бұрын

Same here 🤣

@skeeterd5150

2 жыл бұрын

That means you feel it. Neil peart didn’t count he felt it

@professorpsoop

2 жыл бұрын

However many times it's been explained to me, I've never understood time signatures. But Cobb does a great job anyway LOL

@davehughesfarm7983

2 жыл бұрын

Same with me.. Same as playing guitar..I dont read actual music I just do it..

Ok so apparently Michael Reeves drums now and not surprisingly he's really good

@dylanh8163

2 жыл бұрын

was looking for this comment!

@palmeraniian

2 жыл бұрын

I was almost convinced but there was no cursing

@spoopyscaryskelebones3846

2 жыл бұрын

@@palmeraniian good

You are absolutely fantastic!! And superbly talented. Thank you. I am a dancer, not a drummer, and this was so enlightening. Please deconstruct more music pieces. Love it!

As someone who has played drums since 2001, I really appreciated how quickly you went through everything and how well you explained it. Unfortunately, in my band I am the principal songwriter and often have to focus in on non-drum things, so it is always nice to have a moment to only focus in on playing the drums. Great explanations! Thanks!

Alternate title: "How to prog and actually have any idea of what you're doing"

@kaguyajnt333

2 жыл бұрын

to write prog you actually roll the dice and pick numbers. then just randomly switch it

@reapervich4192

2 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@jimbles717

2 жыл бұрын

Prog was probably invented when a guys record player was skipping and he said "huh that sounds cool"

@brenjmorris

2 жыл бұрын

Gotta love prog

@reapervich4192

2 жыл бұрын

@@brenjmorris yea same

The 12/8 shuffle must be the beat on Fool in the Rain.

@majeutycah

2 жыл бұрын

yes it is, it's also Jeff Porcaro's Rosanna (Toto) shuffle

@davioushardious5042

2 жыл бұрын

@@majeutycah Porcaro has a vid where he says he took both the purdie shuffle and fool in the rain and came up with the Rosanna groove.

@torcolts19

2 жыл бұрын

For some reason I thought he was gonna modulate

@hangingwithmatty9465

2 жыл бұрын

Tool

@clemwest4536

2 жыл бұрын

There's a good Spotify playlist with songs that feature the Purdie Shuffle, and there are a few not on there like King Gizzard's Beginner's Luck or Ben Jones' remix of Latch...

This is a must watch! Best breakdown of time signatures ever, thanks!

I’ve been drumming since I was 13, OMG 50 years. But I’ve been a guitarist for the past 30. I always struggled with odd time signatures. This was pretty cool. Good job!

To go further: -15/8 = The Ocean by Led Zeppelin -16/8 = Tubular Bells by Mike Oldfield (alternates with 14/8) -17/8 = Open Car by Porcupine Tree -18/8 = Birds Of Fire by Mahavishnu Orchestra -19/8 = Home by Dream Theater -20/8 = Gibbon by TTNG -21/8 = 7empest by Tool -22/8 = The First Circle by The Pat Metheny Group -23/8 = Surgical Strike by Queensrÿche -24/8 = Lateralus by Tool -25/8 = How's This For Openers? by Don Ellis -26/8 = Here Comes The Sun by The Beatles (this one surprised the Hell out of me, but it's there!) -27/8 = Witches Promise by Jethro Tull -28/8 = Octavarium by Dream Theater -29/8 = March Of The Pigs by Nine Inch Nails ...Not going any further, though there are some monsters out there. Could some of these be interpreted as split measures with combinations of different time signatures? Of course. But if they repeat at least twice in that same combination, it isn't too unreasonable to combine them to simplify the writing, at least enough to make this list.

@chelfyn

2 жыл бұрын

Tubular bells is 15/8 (really it’s an 8/8 and a 7/8)

@ethanfitzpatrick309

2 жыл бұрын

Aye Tool made it twice wassup

@TheBlackQueen

2 жыл бұрын

@@chelfyn That's actually a big misconception due to the confusion between the denominator and the beat. Firstly though, let me amend my comment as I meant to say that it was a combination of 14/8 (not 7/8) and 16/8, which if you combined would be 30/8, or rather simplified to 15/4. That's where the confusion comes in. The piano rhythm is quite fast so it wouldn't make sense for each quarter note value to be 2 notes each, making each note an 8th note. As a result, the first half of the riff is 14 8th notes and the second half is 16, hence why I said it alternates between them. If we called it 15/8, then that would mean every quarter note value had 4 notes and it would be slower than walking speed, especially for a riff at that speed. Faster notes generally should be attributed to a faster beat, and the denominator of the time signature should represent the beat value. It's like the 7/4 vs 7/8 argument. An example of 7/4 is Money by Pink Floyd because the quarter note is the recognised drum beat and translates when it switches to 4/4 in the guitar solo. An example of 7/8 is Tom Sawyer by Rush where the exact opposite happens. The main beat is a slower 4/4 but switches to 7/8 during the synth and guitar solo section, translating that quarter note feel where it feels like 4/4 but missing an 8th note. To sum it up, it's more accurate or at least simpler to say that Tubular Bells is a combination of 14/8 + 16/8, or at best 15/4 if you truly wanted to condense it all to one measure. 15/8 implies that it's much slower than it is. The speed is about the same as the 7/8 section in Tom Sawyer, and thus if considered 15/8, would make the beat the same pace as the verses of Tom Sawyer, which it definitely isn't.

@tsian7328

2 жыл бұрын

Another 15/8 one I believe is the intro and outro of I Think I Lost My Headache by Queens of the Stone Age

@chrisjobe2270

2 жыл бұрын

I personally think that feeling very whacky time signatures is much easier when you split them up, especially when the down beat falls in specfic places in between the larger time signature. For example, the main riff in Lateralus by Tool not only is written, but also is better felt as 9/8, 8/8, 7/8. This was actually how the riff was meant to be written and felt, since Adam Jones said the song was going to be called 9-8-7 and he realised that 987 was a fibonaccian number - hence why there are multiple references to the fibonacci sequence in the song. It may be easier to write out on paper as a combination of the smaller time signatures, but I think that reading and particularly feeling these types of songs makes more sense to write them as changing time signatures. However this does also depend on where the downbeat falls. Another example you've given is 7empest (sorry to use Tool again I do listen to other bands I swear lol), and here you would have a hard time counting all the way to 21 before starting a new bar. I would count this as 10/8 (some would say 5/4) and 11/8 changing, since it is obvious where the downbeat falls. (7empest can also be counted as 3 sets of 7/8 is you're a nutter) Hope this makes sense :)

I like how the title says "exposed" as if all these time signatures have been the subject of conspiracies or like they need to be debunked...

@matthewjones6786

2 жыл бұрын

I personally have a sneaking suspicion that Big Time Rush is withholding the secret of 19/37 timing...

@eric8764

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry I would like, but it's at 69.

@23Bandz_

2 жыл бұрын

@@eric8764 not anymore

@izhamsham843

2 жыл бұрын

@@23Bandz_ You like watching civilisation burn 😭

@ranchlord77

2 жыл бұрын

FOR REEEALS lmao

I remember years ago seeing Ian Paice on a TV show talking about the 7/4 beat, and saying the way he remembered, or counted it, was by thinking of the old Italian actress ... Gina Lollobrigida. I'm not a drummer, but I thought it was a cute way of counting the beat, and still remember it. Paicey was a fantastic drummer too. I was lucky enough to see him play, when the Deep Purple Mk II line up reformed, which is definitely before you were born. Sigh, I'm old.

I am not a drummer but I do play other instruments and this really helped me understand time signatures and how to count them properly. Thank you.

This settles it: Outkast is a prog band.

@kaphizmey6229

2 жыл бұрын

remember when the academy in charge of the grammys renamed the “urban contemporary” category to “progressive r&b”? yeah, this

@CraigKeidel

2 жыл бұрын

Andre has been known to bust out in some wild theremin solos during practice sessions (but not really)

@robinlepioufle

2 жыл бұрын

Outcast - Abysmal

@carolecksit2947

2 жыл бұрын

They’re D-Beat OBVIOUSLY

@vollmond9342

2 жыл бұрын

Always has been

Anyone who manages to make good music out of 1/1 is a goddamn genius

@mrpresident8546

2 жыл бұрын

Very slow tempo only use sixteenth notes

@Zachary_Cordova

2 жыл бұрын

Very fast tempo slow down time to make note last longer

@xbenci

2 жыл бұрын

mh, that's an interesting point. I ain't no expert on this, but this thought immediatly came to mind: could some drone music be counted on 1/1? cause if so there's plenty of great 1/1 tracks out there!

@gregothy9190

2 жыл бұрын

Technically you could do any song in 1/1 if your conductor is willing to give you enough downbeats lmao

@TonyVazquez8265

2 жыл бұрын

You're right! 😆🤣

The snare/cymbol work on the 3/4 made me immediately feel happy. I enjoyed this video a lot and I loved the outfit! Made learning fun!

What’s great about this is that he describes each signature in such a relatable way and makes me realise that I could actually use some of these now that I have more context

Pianist here, whenever I feel the piece I'm playing is hard, I rewatch this video and remember to be thankful I'm not a dummer.

@chewingpiano

2 жыл бұрын

I'm a pianist too and the time signature applies to us as well, the real challenge is the off time signatures in jazz and progressive rock (:

@gehirndoper

2 жыл бұрын

I recommend Bartok to learn to count in different time signatures as a pianist.

@gageharden1423

2 жыл бұрын

You guys have pitch to worry about though and that's confusing to me still.

@noname8354

2 жыл бұрын

Still better than clef changes

@gehirndoper

2 жыл бұрын

@@gageharden1423 Nah, for pianists pitch isn't a concern. Press the key and you get a fixed pitch. For other instruments (or voice) getting pitch and intonation correct can be very tricky.

I feel like I've stumbled upon an alternate reality in which Michael Reeves got into drumming rather than programming. I much prefer this universe.

@koaladelespace

2 жыл бұрын

where drumming, instead of coding, has saved him from falling into crumbling self destructive & degenerate tendencies

@martincortes9364

2 жыл бұрын

@@koaladelespace It must be all that Monster

@Nossairito

2 жыл бұрын

This Michael Reeves would make the kind of chaotic videos like 'I made my roommate's glasses break by drumming to the right frequency'

@floatingdisembodiedhead8975

2 жыл бұрын

If in this universe Lily actually talk through her mouth instead of talking nasally, i'm in.

That 13/16 groove is now my favorite odd groove, there's such a smooth flow and not clunky like other signatures may be.

@Giantcrabz

9 ай бұрын

Take Five is pretty smooth

just getting back into drums and this was a really greay refresher, thanks

The bojack horseman reference at the start caught me off guard, a man of culture.

@dissonantdreams

2 жыл бұрын

I was just browsing & wasn’t even really gonna watch this video, but that intro totally sold me!

@heber2842

2 жыл бұрын

what is this, a crossover episode?

@michelegiuli8620

2 жыл бұрын

@@dissonantdreams same

@dananskidolf

2 жыл бұрын

I've titled a work presentation in that format before :D

@haydenr6208

2 жыл бұрын

Fr it had me thinking I was watching bojack horseman for a split second

Man you are class. I'm 40 this year, playing drums for years and I find your break down of time signatures compiled in this way so helpful. Relating the signatures to songs is the master stroke. Never to old to learn. Thanks a million dude.

@kevin_nagle

Жыл бұрын

Almost 40 but still don't understand the difference between to and too 🤷🏻‍♂️

@thatguykalem

Жыл бұрын

@@kevin_nagle give it a rest man

@chrismahermusic5142

Жыл бұрын

@@kevin_nagle Where is your comma? Your punctuation? You're better than this Kevin! Lol!

@kevin_nagle

Жыл бұрын

@@chrismahermusic5142 it's all just bustin balls with us 40 year olds 😆

@tonyvelasquez6776

Жыл бұрын

@@chrismahermusic5142 take me to xhurch I'll worship like a dog at the shrine of your lies I'll tell u my sins and you can sharpen your knife offer me that deathless death oh good God let me give you my life Pls critique my voice I have start 2 sing and I think I m singing quite well I post my sing to this comment pls give honest rate thank u

THANK YOU FOR THIS TUTORIAL! Understanding Time signatures have eluded me.

Thank you for this!! I can hear songs differently now!! You're a great teacher

"polka, or punk rock" Oh boy will you love the dreadnoughts.

@jery3385

2 жыл бұрын

Polka never dies amirite

@omgvague

2 жыл бұрын

I love when punk gets fused into genres/styles you wouldn't normally find it. Flogging Molly (folk) and Gogol Bordello (gypsy/polka) are a couple bands that fit that spectrum that I enjoy a lot.

@joshsimmons2663

2 жыл бұрын

@@jery3385 my son is 8 and is a drummer in a local polka band. He plays bass and snare.

@jery3385

2 жыл бұрын

@@joshsimmons2663 damn, at such an early age? That's great!

@joshsimmons2663

2 жыл бұрын

@@jery3385 been playing since he was 5. Plays the piano, accordian, tuba and trumpet as well

" A Wizard is never LATE!! ....Nor is he early. He arrives precisely when he means to! "

@loft6424

2 жыл бұрын

best comment ever

@headbangerhank

2 жыл бұрын

One would say, he’s always in time

@renkor3

2 жыл бұрын

xD

@qrrbrbirbel2

2 жыл бұрын

A wizard is never rushing, nor is he dragging. He in precisely the time he means to.

@EthanRom

2 жыл бұрын

no wonder drummers are always late for practice

I watched this whole video on 0.5 playback... not intentionally, my pc was playing up and I couldn't change the settings.. I recommend it though, really sunk in better I think! Excellent video, Cobb you are a character... much appreciated 🙏

I have never heard polka and punk lumped together but 🤯 there you go. And you have described 2-2 in a way that makes more sense than I ever understood. It always seemed unnecessary due to 4-4 so I always kinda stumbled over it.

@lethiapage4767

10 ай бұрын

The similar construction of punk and polka songs explains how they can be melted so perfectly for bands like flogging molly and pixies. In fact there are a lot of Irish bands like that and it's all quite fascinating...they start out respectable enough and then you get a little booze in them (another common thread of both genres) and the shift takes place. I will leave it for each person to decide which is which 🍀😂💚😂💚😂🍀

as somebody who has no interest in learning an instrument or any music, this was fantastic

@raperepublicanwomentheysee1786

2 жыл бұрын

Nice

@flaccidego4291

2 жыл бұрын

Right. Save urself the trouble. Playing an instrument is like being in a relationship. One relationship alone is hard enough to maintain. So for any novices out there heed my wise advice, & choose one or the other. If I had known how much time both relationships involve when I was younger I woulda chosen only the guitar. Choose wisely my friends:D

I've never seen this guy before, but the way he explains stuff combined with how he talks with more physical gusto than an Italian is really effective and endearing.

How fun! I’ve played some of these without even knowing the time signatures. Great explanation

I'm a conductor, and I absolutely love conducting things that are in 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9. I've composed a piece that is primarily in 11, and I've conducted in 23/16 before...so yeah. Great video!

@reactions4u438

Жыл бұрын

How did you accent the 23? I’m guessing 6,6,6,5

@johnnytheyoungmaestro

Жыл бұрын

@@reactions4u438 Actually, there were no accents, as there usually are in odd meter. The first bar of the piece was in 4/4, and then the transition happens right after. It's just alternating patterns of 4 and 3 all throughout. That simple. And if you're curious, it's the Ganondorf theme from Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time.

@reactions4u438

Жыл бұрын

@@johnnytheyoungmaestro that’s interesting… I’ll check it out

@johnnytheyoungmaestro

Жыл бұрын

@@reactions4u438 Yeah, it's quite interesting, seeing as how the accents of odd meter usually determine your pattern of conducting. But I self-taught myself that 23/16 time signature, although it could be way different for other pieces with the same thing. It just depends, really, if there are any accents to look out for.

@vicferrari89

Жыл бұрын

23/16!? Huh?!

You can’t talk about 5/4 without mentioning Take Five. It’s like a rule.

@lpschaf8943

2 жыл бұрын

Fice

@nominalegg5865

2 жыл бұрын

Also Mission Impossible

@HylianChozo

2 жыл бұрын

Or the Gorillaz song 5/4.

@theblackgloves5416

2 жыл бұрын

Or Radiohead - 15 Step

@chrisrj9871

2 жыл бұрын

OK so apparently I've heard Take Five, but just never knew it as "Take Five". It was always just kind of there. I still think the most famous 5/4 tune that EVERYBODY knows (but probably doesn't know is 5/4) is the original TV theme to *Mission: Impossible.* Am I nuts?

This man got the shittiest cymbals Zildjian ever made and you'd never know it just by listening. Great musicians, as seen here, don't need the best or most expensive gear to sound good. Great video!

@thebusinesswoman23

2 жыл бұрын

Ah yes... but the beads and the aged secret Zildjian alloy make it all the better . 😏

@johnbemery7922

2 жыл бұрын

I suspect Hendrix would sound like Hendrix on any guitar....the music comes from the musician.

@ARMYStrongHOOAH17

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnbemery7922 lol, well yes to an extent, maybe. But the tone of the instrument also makes a huge difference. Think Pantera, or Van Halen. They have very distinct guitar tone, and in fact EVH is kinda famous for that tone, which is why the 5150 and Peavy 6505 are so iconic in rock and, particularly, metal. Same can be true in drums: low quality cymbals or drum shells can put off harsh, unpleasant, and annoying frequencies (like the Zildjian ZBT cymbals do, in my opinion). But of course great musicians and audio engineers may be able to work around or mitigate such shortcomings. But I'm rambling at this point.

@flaccidego4291

2 жыл бұрын

Speaking of Hendrix. By stringing his guitar upside down, he had some modifications issues affecting intonation. To make up for it he detuned every string a semitone. Plus he played EXTREMELY "loose" aka expressive or trance like. All 3 of these things are as unconventional as it gets!!! & yet he sounded incredible. So his strings were backwards. They were also out of proper tune, & he played way too loose which caused him to make lots of mistakes, but this genius & master of a guitar player made it all incredibly unnoticeable.

@willywayne5299

2 жыл бұрын

But didn't Jimi play a right handed guitar just flipped around to lefty,so the strings where just the same if you flipped them to right so no restringing!

This is so incredibly useful. I really want drums but right now I really struggle at this aspect of music composition. I'm trying to learn FL Studio but I really really suck at actually making anything.

mista cobb, This video was great with great examples breaking down time signatures in such a simple manor.

I don't care if this feels young or old. It is a superb demonstration. How many of the critics can count and APPLY all of these signatures? As a veteran of music academia I can definitely say that this would be a fantastic lecture in first semester music theory. Great content. Cheers!

@NoTraceOfSense

2 жыл бұрын

We’re not being critical; we’re just observing that this content feels like it’s from a different era of KZread.

@CoyoteSinbad

2 жыл бұрын

@@NoTraceOfSense Fact.

@charlablevins474

2 жыл бұрын

#KevinCrabbDrums

@ryanclark895

2 жыл бұрын

@@NoTraceOfSense and its a good vibe

@raperepublicanwomentheysee1786

2 жыл бұрын

@@charlablevins474 and Kevin Paradis too. He's another incredible drummer.

I love that you used the term “subdivided” during the Rush section. Be cool or be cast out!

@veronicalane1458

2 жыл бұрын

Subdivisions; Classic!

@richardconnold8060

2 жыл бұрын

I like this video. He's not detached, and subdivided, in the mass-production zone.

Gracias, esta es la mejor explicación de este tema.

Time wizard 🧙‍♂️ thankyou practice tomorrow all day. started playing drums at 8 years old now im 63 & still jamming back then i played by feel taught my self with uncles ect. 🥁 🤗

Dude whatever you did to KZread, it has been recommending me this video like a freak...finally caved and watched today.good job

@jojoversus1100

2 жыл бұрын

SAME HERE. I've had this recommended like 20 times a day. I finally am watching it right now. Lol.

@MichaelTaylor-no4do

2 жыл бұрын

Lol same

@c3mi979

2 жыл бұрын

His "Hey ya" singing in a wizard hat magic lured me in as well. I resisted for like a week, but here I am. With no regrets.

@RockyStradlin

2 жыл бұрын

@@jojoversus1100 same

@yungdomino4718

2 жыл бұрын

KZreads been listening to us rehearse and they're like "PLEASE watch this video, for the love of god"

The most famous 7/4 song would be Pink Floyd's "Money."

@im_in_immense_pain

2 жыл бұрын

@@citrus7115 No, Money is in 7/4, not 7/8.

@PNW_Sportbike_Life

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely

@musicminute2004

2 жыл бұрын

Or Blackened by Metallica

@raphaelbianchi

2 жыл бұрын

21/8

@raphaelbianchi

2 жыл бұрын

Money is compound meter. 7/4 or 7/8 are simple meter. In this case, the bottom number just changes the way you write it, it sounds the same. Compound you divide each beat by 3 (like triplets). Simple meter, by 2: 4/4 = 1e 2e 3e 4e 4/4 compound is 12/8 (the way you get it is multiplying the top number by 3 and the bottom by 2, 4x3=12 and 4x2=8, then you get the 12/8. Imagine blues, they are usually 12/8, meaning you count four, but each beat is divided by 3, so 1ee 2ee 3ee 4ee (Tears For Fears - Everybody Wants To Rule The World is 12/8) 6/8 is compound of 2/4, meaning you count 2 dividing each beat by 3, 1ee 2ee (Beatles - Oh! Darling is 6/8). It's different from 6/4, which is simple meter and you count 6 dividing by 2: 1e 2e 3e 4e 5e 6e (Soundgarden - Fell On Black Days is 6/4). So, a 7/4 (or 7/8, 7/16, whatever), is simple and you divide by 2, 1e 2e 3e 4e 5e 6e 7e (Seal - Dreaming In Metaphors is 7/4 - you find its music sheet in 7/8 because its the best way to write it, but it's not compound) Money is like a blues, but a 7 time blues, so you get that division by 3 of each beat. remember the formula, 7x3=21 and 4x2=8, so the compound version of 7/4 is 21/8. 1ee 2ee 3ee 4ee 5ee 6ee 7ee During the solo part it's 12/8 (4/4 compound).

Thanks for demonstrates the times and hit notes of drums in partiture well done ✅ fine my bro abd Thanks 💯❤

Great Video!

“ What every guitarist always wanted to understand.”

@nathanhyde2079

2 жыл бұрын

Lmao ain't that the truth and it's what made watch this because I'm one of those "guitarists".

@wrcz

2 жыл бұрын

I gave up 3 minutes in lol

@TheElectrizantee

2 жыл бұрын

what every guitarrist should understand if he is in a band

@eternalroots6753

2 жыл бұрын

Guilty as charged, didn’t use a metronome but people so far didn’t mention anything about my timing in my KZread music vids

Without a doubt, the best, most understandable and accurately performed demonstration of music time. Great job!

@leth4_ul

2 жыл бұрын

Literally

You both helped me come to grips with my fear of math, helped me overcome it, and lubed the whole experience.

Not bad bro; good job getting some of the odder time sales explained so most people can understand! thanks!

Imagine being able to say "let's make it groovy" and actually being able to make it groovy

Special case that I’ve observed 8/8 being more useful than 4/4 was when score transitioned frequently between 6/8 or 7/8. Visually and mentally the subdivision of 8/8 was easier to maintain in this case. Otherwise 4/4 would have felt like cut time.

@runninglyrics

2 жыл бұрын

Omg dude I just made this comment about a song I wrote doing exactly this that I recently posted on my channel 😂🤣😂

@SidV101

Жыл бұрын

I was gonna say this. My favorite song shifts from 9/8 to 8/8 to 7/8 so counting 4/4 in the middle would throw me off

@nuisanceguru

10 ай бұрын

i wonder which tool song that is........

@dillonjosephdrums9386

5 ай бұрын

​@@SidV101lateralus It's lateralus

best time sig video ever, idk how this popped up in my alg but im glad it did. loving the fit bro! you belong down here in new orleans!

8/8 is super useful when something has frequent mixed meter feeling changes, so you can do 3+3+2, 2+3+3, or 3+2+3 (especially if part of the ensemble is doing mixed meter and the rest is playing in straight 4). This way the time signature stays the same so it’s more straightforward for the performers. Frank Ticheli uses this through the piece Postcard.

@trustnugget280

2 жыл бұрын

This is actually the first time I understood why you'd need 8/8, thanks

@SE4GY7

2 жыл бұрын

Came here to comment this. Could also apply to 9/8 which the zep example shows.

@SE4GY7

2 жыл бұрын

Mixed meters could also be a reason to use 10/4 in place of 5/4, 12/8 instead of 6/8, etc. Of course the "feel" of the beat could also be a valid reason, for example some songs just feel better as 12/8 rather than 6/8. You can't explain it but it just feels right. Feel is a good enough justification for any notation decision in my opinion.

@judkilgore3822

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that breakdown. I was going to comment about how I had always thought 8/8 & 4/4 were similar but with a different feel. I said that to my band’s drummer last year and she snapped, “No, it’s not!”

@ivanokmunoz

2 жыл бұрын

8/8 it's the time signature for salsa and for tango.

Back when music was only on paper or played live, the actual "song" WAS the sheet music. So, there were ways to make your sheet music look fancier (one reason why notation is often quite elegant, I'm sure) and we took it a step further by being able to change time signatures to sort of reflect the feel of the music just by looking at the score. If you wanted to write a song that was super frilly and airy and light, you could use 2/2 and there would be lines and empty circles all over the place, most of your notes would be whole notes making the sheet music easy on the eyes; alternatively, if you wanted your song to be bold and powerful and loud, you could use 8/8, or perhaps even 12/8 and there would be 8th notes and 16th notes and 32nd notes all over the place making the sheet music dark and crowded. This way it was easier to tell what kind of song it might be just by looking at it, even at a distance (I'd say "or to a layman", but back then, freaking everyone could read music lol). I think the main reason for redundant time signatures like these are because of this. It also allows a lot of flexibility when mixing time signatures, for example keeping the bottom number the same while changing the top number.

@gyrogearloose1345

2 жыл бұрын

Slow down Eddy! You can't just be throwing around the "redundant" word willy-nilly . . .

@highpath4776

2 жыл бұрын

How easy is it to hear a difference between 3/4 (Waltz) and 6/8 (March) , of course adding in as he has done infil beats does go slightly different in the two time signatures. Of course throw triplets into 4/4 and goodness know where you end up, and does 4/4 have to have the stress on 1 and 3 ?

@CaravanCzar

2 жыл бұрын

"We?" And speaking like you remember those days fondly, and with more than second-hand knowledge. What I'm getting at is you have to legally tell us if you are a vampire.

@edwhite7475

2 жыл бұрын

'Dark and crowded' The very reason Zappa called Terry Bozzios feature piece 'The Black Page' It was COVERED with notes.

@schmecklin377

2 жыл бұрын

Very well said

Thank you so much for saving me during cm season 😭😭 literally one of the simplest to understand THANK YOU!!!

Was looking for a new metronome to fall asleep to (previous was 3/4 80bpm), found this. I'm certainly not asleep, but I learned a lot. Thank you!

This video is worthy of a re-edit with text overlays counting out the beats...where you have a string of numbers along the bottom of the screen and they light up as you play along with the beat. That would really help with the educational component. Cheers!

@TommyShlong

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed!

@TheRuVedicChannel

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@okebaram

2 жыл бұрын

That would be cool, because I still don't get the counting for why a beat is this or that and I was expecting to find out that effortlessly

@eddyary3679

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

The Bojack reference at the beginning killed me 😂

@QuentacosIsMe

2 жыл бұрын

What is this? A crossover episode?!

@emiliomontesdeocagonzalez681

2 жыл бұрын

*ERICA!*

@FernandoWhitehorn

2 жыл бұрын

It's disappointing i had to scroll so far down to find this comment, but glad i did! Doggy doggy what now

@emiliomontesdeocagonzalez681

2 жыл бұрын

@@FernandoWhitehorn I thought exactly the same, my Peanurino brother

@NotTheBot

2 жыл бұрын

WhatTimeIsItdotcom

This is such a great video thank you so much

I'm a guitar player with mediocre understanding of time signatures. I've added this video to my favorites because it gave me more insight.