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  • @frenzalrhomb6919
    @frenzalrhomb69199 ай бұрын

    There's no question about it, Geoff Beck on any day ending with the letter "Y".

  • @derekclacton
    @derekclacton9 ай бұрын

    Clapton always was my #1 with Beck close behind but I recall an interview with Eric when he said Jeff was the best guitarist in the world, so there you go. Jeff Beck was a genius 🎸

  • @stratcat3216
    @stratcat32169 ай бұрын

    No comparison. One is a master of all things guitar, one is a blues player.

  • @jerrychetty2524

    @jerrychetty2524

    9 ай бұрын

    Absolutely correct

  • @robertlear2712
    @robertlear27129 ай бұрын

    I saw Eric Clapton in concert with Delaney and Bonnie in 1969 and I saw Jeff Beck in concert in 2018. In this match up Beck is God should be written on the wall.

  • @HakanTunaMuzik
    @HakanTunaMuzik9 ай бұрын

    This should not even be a question, Beck of course, how could you even ask this :-)

  • @jackpittens796
    @jackpittens7969 ай бұрын

    They are both awesome. I heart is with Jeff, but no disputing the brilliance of Eric, particularly in his earlier years. We are fortunate to have experienced both.

  • @madcyril4135
    @madcyril41359 ай бұрын

    From U.K. Could go on and on here! Beck, different galaxy! Never mind planet, when it comes to creativity. no contest!

  • @garyh.238

    @garyh.238

    9 ай бұрын

    Wholeheartedly agreed MadCyril

  • @JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
    @JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories9 ай бұрын

    In the 60s and 70s, Clapton. After that, Beck got exponentially AMAZING year after year till the end. While his catalogue is not "radio friendly" like Eric, the level of commitment to the instrument is mindblowing. Geniuses always leave us first :( Great video!!!

  • @johnthursfield3056

    @johnthursfield3056

    9 ай бұрын

    I would say from the time of Blow by Blow onwards Beck was far superior and remained ahead for the rest of Jeff's life.

  • @markpritchard7030

    @markpritchard7030

    14 күн бұрын

    😂😂😂 beck was big on the scene in the 60s with the yardbirds

  • @jeffcooketeachguitar
    @jeffcooketeachguitar9 ай бұрын

    Beck, without a doubt. Clapton had great feel and tone until (maybe) the early seventies and then went middle-of-the-road average. Beck started pretty great and then continually got better throughout his career. He had more control, tone and feel than almost anyone. And no one else played like him. If necessary, I'll fight the Superiometer on this one! :D

  • @davebritton7648

    @davebritton7648

    9 ай бұрын

    I'm with you.

  • @davebritton7648

    @davebritton7648

    9 ай бұрын

    @@Barklord Agreed. Their contribution to electric music has to be acknowledged.

  • @TheFixos

    @TheFixos

    9 ай бұрын

    Clapton surely played his best guitar over 50 years ago but if Ginger Baker Jack Bruce and Eric Clapton were equals as musicians in 1968 Eric was surely the guy who held it all together at the reunion concerts in 2005. His playing was exquisite and impressive.

  • @jimmycampbell78

    @jimmycampbell78

    9 ай бұрын

    Clapton’s playing - for what he does- is usually excellent and has remained so over the decades. I would argue he has been better in the 1980s, 1990s and in the 21st century than he was way back when he had drug and alcohol problems. I wouldn’t confuse Clapton’s guitar playing proficiency with what he did creatively or his songwriting work with particular bands in certain eras. Two different things, imo.

  • @JarrettMehldau

    @JarrettMehldau

    9 ай бұрын

    I couldn't have said it better. I like Eric's playing and I respect his contributions to music, but as a guitar player Jeff is a league above him. There really is no competition here. It's like comparing David Beckham to Messi.

  • @JazzzRockFuzion
    @JazzzRockFuzion9 ай бұрын

    Jeff Beck by a rather substantial margin!

  • @derekclacton
    @derekclacton9 ай бұрын

    Technical ability: Jeff Beck used a whammy bar, volume swells and harmonics - which Clapton didn’t do.

  • @robertrobles4028

    @robertrobles4028

    5 ай бұрын

    Clapton played very subtle harmonics actually. Listen to his solo on ‘Bell Bottom Blues’. I believe he’s playing upstroke pinch harmonics.

  • @finarollerz
    @finarollerz9 ай бұрын

    Absolutely BECK. NO CONTEST.

  • @nickhamlyn2458
    @nickhamlyn24582 ай бұрын

    "The truly great artists are humble. The truly great artists hide their virtuosity." So true, and so profound.

  • @user-cv8ud8qo9f
    @user-cv8ud8qo9f9 ай бұрын

    Even Clapton says it's Beck!

  • @onsenkuma1979
    @onsenkuma19799 ай бұрын

    Jeff Beck has always been my favourite guitarist, if only because he communicated the most with the fewest notes. In fact, I'd play the same sections of his records over and over just to hear one or two (or a small handful) of notes. I guess my own 'super-i-ometer' would have to include a measure of 'musical economy' or 'succinctness'...

  • @MrCherryJuice

    @MrCherryJuice

    9 ай бұрын

    Yes, the 'super-i-ometer' missed out on 'taste'.

  • @josephcefalu2157
    @josephcefalu21579 ай бұрын

    The riff category should’ve gone to Beck. Led Boots, Big Block, Becks Bolero, all incredible. Clapton didn’t even write the Layla riff

  • @LCD72

    @LCD72

    12 күн бұрын

    Interesting, had to look it up to find that Duane Allman wrote the riff.

  • @jurgenkoslowski2097
    @jurgenkoslowski20979 ай бұрын

    Wasn't quite expecting such a nicely balanced appraisal of their respective strength, in view of some of your other videos. Great point about the comradeship among Clapton, Beck and Page. I've only seen videos of Clapton and Beck appearing together, but their mutual respect is very obvious.

  • @dukeford8893

    @dukeford8893

    9 ай бұрын

    Beck got along well with the other two, but I would question any great "comradeship" between EC and JP. Eric seemingly hasn't had much regard for Page since the Immediate recordings flap in the mid-1960's.

  • @AntarblueGarneau
    @AntarblueGarneau9 ай бұрын

    Clapton used a flame top 1960 Les Paul for the "Beano" sessions not a gold top. Freddy King played a gold top. I bought the "Beano" vinyl LP when it came out in 1966 on san Francisco. Clapton changed all music. His influence can be heard even today in elevators!

  • @user-mad7max11dystopia
    @user-mad7max11dystopia15 күн бұрын

    The studio crew in Muscle Shoals said Duane Allman created the opening riff on Layla. In fact, they seemed doubtful that Clapton would have been able to get that song out of the ditch without Allman.

  • @raymeedc
    @raymeedc9 ай бұрын

    I’m 73. Beck has been my favorite guitarist since I picked up on him with The Yardbirds in ‘65, vaccines and the like having nothing to do with it. The first track I heard was “Mister You’re A Better Man Than I”. When that at the time unheard of far eastern influenced guitar solo started, I was lost and turned off, but by the end I was a die hard fan. He just does it for me….. INIMITABLE❣️

  • @lastdaysguitar
    @lastdaysguitar9 ай бұрын

    Clapton of course has done some fantastic things, and back in the day he was a monster live improvisor - but Jeff Beck is/was/will be "THE GUY".

  • @gregoryg3256

    @gregoryg3256

    9 ай бұрын

    Amen , Brother...Saint Beck...is...Special ..witha Halo..& I still like Clapton...but..I Still put Gilmour as my #1 British Guitarist..but Hendrix #1 in the universe ..no one even comes Close..Period

  • @motherlesschild102
    @motherlesschild1029 ай бұрын

    Beck... of course. The Super-i-ometer (aka Andy Edwards) really has to stretch to make it even competitive. I guess the point is...if you rig the rules the right way, some pretty unlikely folks can be the winners.

  • @calum54

    @calum54

    9 ай бұрын

    Totally agree. Surprised Clapton didn’t get points for inspiring ‘Rock Against Racism’.

  • @jerrychetty2524

    @jerrychetty2524

    9 ай бұрын

    Jeff beck is just incomparable, the best ever really

  • @motherlesschild102

    @motherlesschild102

    9 ай бұрын

    Although the live Cream "Crossroads" is still hella impressive !

  • @johngarbutt
    @johngarbutt9 ай бұрын

    Clapton has never done it for me despite his skills but I do like his playing on The Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking and the Cream stuff. But Beck is another story... Will never be another like him.

  • @Joaquinonbasstheelectriklovein
    @Joaquinonbasstheelectriklovein9 ай бұрын

    Without question Beck. There's a video somewhere of Clapton having Jeff perform "Since We've Ended as Lovers". The look on Clapton's face was like"you're not going to upstage me at my own show like Jimi did" and Eric gets out there and plays the most blustering leads since Cream. Beck woke his ass up big time.

  • @geoffccrow2333

    @geoffccrow2333

    9 ай бұрын

    Hmmm.. let me just watch that video for the 50th time. He obviously set the amp up earlier to sound like that.. coz he knew exactly what sound was about to happen

  • @MrCherryJuice

    @MrCherryJuice

    9 ай бұрын

    Yes, and Clapton's solo had nothing to do with the tune - it was more 'You're not going to outdo me like you did on 'Further On Up the Road' (from the Secret Policeman's Other Ball - watch it on KZread). As a result he overplayed...like Prince did on 'While My Guitar Gently Weeps'. The Oxford Dictionary defines 'blustering' thusly: talk in a loud, aggressive, or indignant way with little effect. Yes, I would agree with that. A blistering bit of riffage that was little more than a blast of bluster from someone who knew he was way out of his leage.

  • @zootallures6470
    @zootallures64709 ай бұрын

    Ok, Clapton has done some groundbreaking things in the early days but he has “lived” on that for 50 years - which is stagnation. While Beck was trying new things throughout the whole of his career. Off topic edit: I am reading now that John Marshall died on the 16th of September... New to me but maybe you knew about it.

  • @trippknotic
    @trippknotic9 ай бұрын

    I saw Jeff Beck with the Jan Hammer Group - incredible! Also seen Eric during the Tears era. The centre piece of the show was when everyone except the bass and drummer left the stage and the 3 piece played and jammed Cream. Amazing to get a glimpse of that world. Both great.

  • @stratcat4450

    @stratcat4450

    9 ай бұрын

    I saw Claptin back when Santana was opening for him in support of the caravan S album which I really loved. I really didn't care if I saw Clapton or not. Well Santana totally sucked! While I'm still underwhelmed with Claptin, he put on a live show so good I remember it after all these years.

  • @PhilBaird1
    @PhilBaird19 ай бұрын

    They are such different players but your balanced view and judgement made it a worthwhile discussion Andy. Of course Jeff was next level (Like Jimi) but Eric was phenomenal in the sixties for his touch, tone, time, and attack. Styles have changed since then and he's no longer as influential. Neither is Jimi come to that. Thanks for your thoughtful insights and yet another enjoyable video.

  • @mallyd4521
    @mallyd45219 ай бұрын

    I think it was either Clapton or Page quoted as saying Beck was the man......And that's good enough for me.

  • @insomniatique4214
    @insomniatique42149 ай бұрын

    Gold tops were originally P-90 single coils. With Mayall and Cream, Clapton played later Les Pauls with humbucking pickups. His famous bluesbreaker Marshall (model 1962) was 2 x 12 inch speakers and approximately 30w (not 45w). Humbucking pickups + turned-up Marshall combo.

  • @insomniatique4214

    @insomniatique4214

    9 ай бұрын

    Should also mention that feedback with a solid-body Les Paul would be easier to control than semi-hollow Gibsons. Some have said that EC used a Treble Booster (basically a signal booster) but I don't believe he's verified that.

  • @derekclacton
    @derekclacton9 ай бұрын

    “Strange Brew” was actually Clapton’s take on the blues song “Lawdy Mama” (Felix Pappalardi wrote the lyrics) 👍

  • @robertlear2712
    @robertlear27129 ай бұрын

    When I first heard Disraeli Gears I was blown away by the vibrato sound during Clapton’s playing. Before this most guitarists would use a whammy bar to get this effect. Clapton did it with his fingers bending the strings. No rock guitar player that I know was doing this at the time. It was revolutionary. Soon after this album came out, all the rock guitarists were learning it.

  • @clubderunzensiertendichter
    @clubderunzensiertendichter9 ай бұрын

    THANK YOU ! In solidarity with the fighters for peace, love, freedom, justice and truth, we express our feelings with music on our channel. Greetings from Germany, CLUB OF THE UNCENSORED POETS

  • @jokermaan1
    @jokermaan118 күн бұрын

    I was at a live Yardbirds gig in 1965 a couple of months after Clapton had left for John Mayall and been replaced by Jeff Beck. JB was doing the most amazing things with controlled feedback and sonic experimentation even then. This would have been at almost the exact same time that The Beano album was being made. So both, at that time were pushing the boundaries of what was still essentially blues guitar music.

  • @mojobag01
    @mojobag014 ай бұрын

    All done with an incredible guitarist just behind your ear. Splendid.

  • @Monetize_This
    @Monetize_This9 ай бұрын

    I actually respect Eric’s anti-vaccine stance. Nowadays that takes courage especially when as an established musical artist you’re expected you’re expected to toe the establishment line…

  • @PhilBaird1

    @PhilBaird1

    9 ай бұрын

    Looks like Eric may have been on the right side of history all along on Covid and the vaccines.

  • @BarbarraBay

    @BarbarraBay

    4 ай бұрын

    Eric was not "anti-vaccine" because there was never a covid vaccine. There was only a worldwide public experiment.

  • @BarbarraBay

    @BarbarraBay

    4 ай бұрын

    @@PhilBaird1 yes, RS cancelled him.

  • @benzep3467
    @benzep34679 ай бұрын

    Thanks Andy, this was quite an enjoyable video. Great!

  • @thomasrichmond2413
    @thomasrichmond24139 ай бұрын

    Yea, yea, yea. All I can say is if you type “ Angels Footsteps “ into this platform and experience what a musician is capable of, you’ll know Jeff Beck is the one.

  • @MrCherryJuice

    @MrCherryJuice

    9 ай бұрын

    Absolutely! And try 'Seasons' - the two solos in that are amongst Jeff's best.

  • @jelk1188
    @jelk11889 ай бұрын

    Andy, mentioning Bobby Elliot made my day, even if you didn't mention his actual name. The first band record I bought in my life was by The Hollies, the start of my true musical journey. I can't stop smiling!

  • @MrCherryJuice

    @MrCherryJuice

    9 ай бұрын

    Yes, a surprising failure to mention Bobby Elliot by name. Or for context, also one of Ian Paice's fave drummers and dearest friends.

  • @PhilBaird1

    @PhilBaird1

    9 ай бұрын

    The Hollies still don't get the recognition they deserve. Probably never will now as they're largely forgotten. A discussion for another channel though.

  • @MrCherryJuice

    @MrCherryJuice

    9 ай бұрын

    @@PhilBaird1 Very true observation and best for another channel but seeing as this is a bit of a sidebar I'll throw this in. The Hollies were a very fine band but suffered from numerous debilitating faults, most notably - they were a singles band; - for the most part they didn't write their hits; - they - for better or worse didn't transition authentically (remember their Carnaby St. kaftans?) with the times after the arrival of Cream, 'Sgt. Pepper's' etc.; - though they had Allan Clarke and Graham Nash, those two didn't resonate like Lennon & McCartney or Jagger & Richards, nor did any of the players really resonate with the muso crowd like, say Clapton, Bruce and Baker; - there was no tangible musical direction other than to score hit singles, which meant the lightweight 'Jennifer Eccles' was released at the peak of Hendrix, Cream, and even the Beatles delivering innovation; - at a time when the trend shifted from singles to albums (circa '67), theirs were typically patchy and fell short of expectation (I have a couple); - and they resisted Graham Nash's efforts to evolve them with the times, prompting him to leave for CS&N, at which point whatever plot there was suddently disappeared. The fact that the Nash-penned 'King Midas in Reverse' which didn't crack the Top 10, was cited as a failure (ditto their horrid take on the Beatles' 'If I Needed Someone') and they rejected more of his tunes as a result (including 'Marakech Express' and others) in favour 'The Hollies Sing Bob Dylan' album signalled their demise from dominance. That they had some of their biggest-ever hits after his departure ('He Ain't Heavy'; 'The Air that I Breathe', 'Long Cool Woman'...) was somewhat ironic. So is the fact that it isBobby Elliot and Tony Hicks still have the band running, 60 years after their debut hit and long after the demise of Cream, Hendrix and the Beatles. Still, the Hollies have always been a fine band who, as you indicate, didn't get the recognition they deserved. Ditto the Small Faces, the Move and so many others.

  • @Pwecko
    @Pwecko9 ай бұрын

    Do we need the superiometer for this one?

  • @garyh.238

    @garyh.238

    9 ай бұрын

    Yes, if only to confirm scientifically and empirically, once and for all, that Beck is indeed the better guitarist than Clapton. Then it shall be written in stone.

  • @Mike-rw2nh
    @Mike-rw2nh9 ай бұрын

    As a fully qualified guitar princess, I’d love your take on drummers’ rankings/history/influence. Your house, your rules. 👍

  • @tomborgenkristiansen9581
    @tomborgenkristiansen95819 ай бұрын

    Jeff Beck has always been the best of the Yardbirds guitar maestroes. He always plowed new ground,while Clapton (and Page)stagnated in the mid-70's.

  • @edwardyazinski3858

    @edwardyazinski3858

    9 ай бұрын

    Don’t ever tire of listening to Zeppelin records because as a composer of music which includes SONGS Page is superior to both and most musicians. And of course Page had the rest of Zep to make those songs come alive. And of course Page knew what the hell he was doing in the studio. Beck may have had the skill but never had the compositional nor songwriting skills nor does Clapton.

  • @StratsRUs

    @StratsRUs

    9 ай бұрын

    Page is magnificent.

  • @jimmycampbell78

    @jimmycampbell78

    9 ай бұрын

    You remind me of what Dave Kilminster said about Jimmy Page in a recent youtube interview I saw. Kilminster was asked to compare Page to Ritchie Blackmore. Kilminster immediately said he preferred Page because of his guitar composition. He made a very interesting statement about Page generally: “there is an incredible musician in his head that his guitar technique/ability can’t quite get to”.

  • @mrinalkundu1521
    @mrinalkundu15215 ай бұрын

    Saw Jeff a couple of times at Symphony Hall. He had a similar presence and relationship to the rest of the band as Miles had on his Tutu and Amandla tours.

  • @NelsonMontana1234
    @NelsonMontana12343 ай бұрын

    Apples and Oranges. Clapton took the soul of the better blues guitarists and gave it a whole new sound, then applied it to a new style of music. (Im talking about Cream now). He influenced every guitarist who followed. Jeff Beck was an anomaly. He started out exploring the sounds (and noises) of the electric guitar. It was a bit of a gimmick compared to Clapyons virtuosity. BUT THEN...when Clapton was resting on his laurels Jeff was continuing to grow. It was hit or miss for a while until "Blow By Blow" and it was as if both Jeff, and the guitar, were reinvented. Through the exploration of utilizing, "sounds" Jeff transcended music itself. His solos were more than notes. They were excursions, and explorations that shaped a tonal landscape. In short, comparing Clapton to Beck is like comparing Rembrandt to Van Gogh. Who's "better?"

  • @markpritchard7030
    @markpritchard703014 күн бұрын

    Clapton said himself jeff beck was in a league of his own with the guitar

  • @garytaylor2084
    @garytaylor20849 ай бұрын

    Great video. My favorite is the one I am listening to at that time.

  • @splankhoon
    @splankhoon4 ай бұрын

    Clapton became a persona non grata because of his views the past few years. The music press can't deny his worth but they do their best to downplay it. I saw an article in the British press that threw buckets of dirt in order to demonize him. It's pathetic. Politically driven arguments about artists...we saw that once, they called it 'Entartete Kunst'. For me, personally, it's Beck because of the wider range (rock, jazz, fusion,...). All praise to Clapton for staging that live event in honour of Jeff. That was wonderful. May Eric live long and prosper.

  • @christopherobrien4864
    @christopherobrien48649 ай бұрын

    I love the Andy Edwards Show,and I am glad to be a Patreon.🙏🏻

  • @syn707
    @syn7079 ай бұрын

    Hmmm. Of course, Jeff Beck. He's played everything Clapton could do then left Eric is the dust. Granted, Eric never really tried to best himself like Beck did. Somewhere along the way, the fire was extinguished in Clapton. He played some nice stuff and did nice pretty things on his pop material. But whenever he tried things that were more progressive, Jingo, Black Magic Woman, In Memory of Elizabeth Reed, its just sad to see him trying and never making 'it.' Let's see what the Superior O Meter comes up with.

  • @seabud6408
    @seabud64089 ай бұрын

    Great info/opinion. Brought to mind a quote from Ritchie Blackmore “We all have a lot to thank Eric Clapton for” (practically .. Ritchie played one of Eric’s old Stratocasters) For me it’s Jeff all day but I can appreciate how great/groundbreaking Eric is .. and he is God after all. 😀

  • @scottgillham2000
    @scottgillham20009 ай бұрын

    I agree with much of this, except 2 points. Popularity - Beck's guitar playing is responsible for the majority of his sales, but not necessarily Clapton. Many may have bought his stuff because of a single and not because of his guitar playing. Composition - I think this applies only to the composition of the guitar part not of the song itself.

  • @stevejensen5112
    @stevejensen51129 ай бұрын

    Whenever anyone talks about Eric Clapton, I believe JJ Cale should get at least one shout-out - so there.

  • @philt4346

    @philt4346

    9 ай бұрын

    all the right notes mmmm

  • @MrCherryJuice

    @MrCherryJuice

    9 ай бұрын

    And Delaney & Bonnie Bramlett and their band (some of whom became the Dominos) for helping rescue Eric from his desperation of trying to find his guitar and singing voice. Go listen to him on 'Delaney & Bonnie On Tour with Eric Clapton' or Clapton's self-titled solo debut, which was essentially a D&B album with Eric singing. One of those tunes, coincidentally, was JJ Cale's 'After Midnight'.

  • @edwardyazinski3858
    @edwardyazinski38589 ай бұрын

    Oc course we all know that Buddy Guy was riping roaring that on the West Side along with Otis Rush long before Beano 😉

  • @jokermaan1

    @jokermaan1

    18 күн бұрын

    Not to mention Mike Bloomfield, who was playing with and learning from the likes of Muddy Waters and Hubert Sumlin, whilst Clapton was learning licks from Freddie King records in Ripley, Surrey!

  • @lachlangrant1588
    @lachlangrant15889 ай бұрын

    Jeff Beck was better hands down. Clapton can't play what Beck could, but Beck could play everything in Clapton's repertoire. Beck was always pushing boundaries, trying to extend himself as a player, whereas Clapton stagnated and stuck to the same old blues licks he'd been playing for years.

  • @MrMaynardWR
    @MrMaynardWR9 ай бұрын

    I have to admit that I am biased towards Jeff Beck but this analysis was very thoughful and informative and opened my eyes to Clapton's talent a bit more.

  • @cu6454
    @cu64549 ай бұрын

    It's always been Eric be honest and listen to all their work 🎸

  • @quentinlang
    @quentinlang9 ай бұрын

    I'd be curious to see how the Superiometer would do with Beatles Vs. Stones. I think I know which way it would swing. But with you at the controls... who knows?

  • @rothwellaudio
    @rothwellaudio9 ай бұрын

    I think the superiometer needs some fine tuning so that different parameters can be weighted instead of every parameter being of equal importance.

  • @cbolt4492
    @cbolt44929 ай бұрын

    Fair result

  • @kypekka
    @kypekka9 ай бұрын

    Great video. I'm just surprised you don't know that Claptons most famous riff (you even sang it) was played and written by Duane Allman.

  • @AndyEdwardsDrummer

    @AndyEdwardsDrummer

    9 ай бұрын

    Yes I did, EC wrote the song which was going to be a ballad. Jim Gordon the drummer wrote the piano end (obviously before he went mad) This is perhaps the one weakness in my assessment here, but there are still a ton of EC penned riffs out there compared to JB

  • @impalaman9707

    @impalaman9707

    9 ай бұрын

    For all of Clapton's blues prowess, he never even tried to play slide until he heard Duane play it! And even when he did, it still wasn't half as good as brother Duane

  • @elbib2446
    @elbib24469 ай бұрын

    oh come on andy,you know its jeff beck

  • @alanbarrett8149
    @alanbarrett81499 ай бұрын

    Totally get your reasoning, but you have missed out two categories... Improvisational inventiveness and chills down the spine. Beck supreme. Wallington roolz.

  • @LOL..eliminant
    @LOL..eliminant9 ай бұрын

    good show, Andy, good show!

  • @gregoryg3256
    @gregoryg32569 ай бұрын

    🌠🌠Duude...Fantastic Video ..Glad I Finally got 2 c a video of u PLAYIN on JCM'S Zeppelin Video's...Which r Also FANTASTIC...

  • @michaelfavreau7617
    @michaelfavreau76179 ай бұрын

    I am making this comment before I watch Andy and what the Super-i-ometer decides. Jeff Beck is the King . No guitarist is more relevant, more influential and has evolved and grew as a guitarist more than Jeff. I have seen all the best live. Nobody come close to Jeff`s passion, soul and creativity. I have seen him several times live and got a signature once. Lovely man. No contest against any ......any other guitarist. Now lets see what the Super-i-ometer says.

  • @BarbarraBay
    @BarbarraBay4 ай бұрын

    22:04 hilarious. when I went to a shop to buy my first electric guitar I tried to play this (on an amp). Everyone in the guitar shop laughed at me. Those old days were very cruel.

  • @johndrx165
    @johndrx1659 ай бұрын

    You fit the mad scientist mold with this one. Bravo. Agree with most points, but still pick Beck.

  • @attichatchsound-bobkowal5328
    @attichatchsound-bobkowal53289 ай бұрын

    Beck is my fave but great to hear Clapton get his props. Jack Bruce said that with Cream, Clapton was Ornette Colman, but did not know it. I know Andy said he prefers Hendrix or Trower for live guitar trio listening, but I strongly recommend giving "N.S.U." from Cream Live" a serious listen. There is an intricate level of improvised harmonic, and rhythmic interplay between the three musicians that is unmatched - regardless of music genre! (IMHO) Clapton's playing here needs to be heard in the context of how it works with the (way out) bass and drums - as good as it gets!

  • @allthingsclassicrock

    @allthingsclassicrock

    9 ай бұрын

    Excellent comment. On the money. That NSU performance is incendiary!

  • @raymeedc
    @raymeedc9 ай бұрын

    Clapton’s influence is greater for 2 reasons. One is that his music is much more basic & accessible to most players. Secondly, Clapton is much easier to copy, Beck almost impossible.

  • @jvpresnall
    @jvpresnall9 ай бұрын

    Beck looks so cool in the Yardbirds scene in Antonioni’s Blow Up. He gets the static and says screw it as he smashes it and throws it into the crowd.

  • @MrCherryJuice

    @MrCherryJuice

    9 ай бұрын

    A couple things about that bit with the Yardbirds. First, notice that Jeff didn't use his Les Paul, just one of several cheap guitars brought in for the filming. Second, Antonioni wanted the Who for that sequece. When that band's manager, Kit Lambert, asked Yardbirds' manager Simon Napier-Bell the fee he should charge, Napier-Bell recommended £10,000, knowing it would not be accepted. And he was right, at which point he offered the Yardbirds. Beck was good for that bit because he was a moody bastard when he was you. Indeed, the only album he did with the band, 'Yardbirds' (aka Roger the Engineer) he was apparently excluded from the group sessions, only to be called in when need to do his parts. Like Clapton, he too was moody and arrogant, both frustrated that they were incapable of having things their way at the time.

  • @jvpresnall

    @jvpresnall

    9 ай бұрын

    @@MrCherryJuice also, most obviously, the song is Stroll On not Train Kept a Rollin’ apparently due to copyright issues. I don’t care about the moody arrogance, Beck looks good in that scene. The original point of my post.

  • @AntarblueGarneau
    @AntarblueGarneau9 ай бұрын

    In the 1960s when Clapton played on stage he stood "stock still!" People used to talk about it.

  • @shipsahoy1793
    @shipsahoy17939 ай бұрын

    Andy..You can shout “ships ahoy” from the rooftops for all I care! 😂😂

  • @claywalnum3143
    @claywalnum31439 ай бұрын

    For me, it’s Beck all day. It’s not possible to get an objective comparison between two artists; there are way too many variables. You’ve proved it by choosing Beck as your favorite despite the points going to Clapton. Beck is by far the better guitarist. I saw a video (wish I had a link to it) where Clapton and Beck were playing together onstage. Clapton did his usual thing when he was soloing and then turned it over to Beck…and the music just exploded. Beck fried the stage with his amazingness. Love your channel, and love, love Rain!

  • @cu6454
    @cu64549 ай бұрын

    Didn't have time for a long answer Eric all the way 🎸 and he can write and sing it's harder to sing and play 😁

  • @chrisbyrne5358
    @chrisbyrne53589 ай бұрын

    Jeff Beck was in a different league to Clapton

  • @patm5086
    @patm50869 ай бұрын

    Jeff Beck hands down, no contest.

  • @TedBurke
    @TedBurke9 ай бұрын

    You have done an admirable amends for the sniping you've aimed towards EC and do a fine job defending the profundity of his achievement, but for all his foundational importance in the creation of rock guitar , EC peaked as a player with Layla. His solo, perfection that they are, are seamless reshuffling of what he's done decades ago. He's only been refining what he's already created in a much earlier time. Beck , though, remain on the move, evolving, changing his style of playing, absorbing new styles outside the blues from which he came and merging everything that was wholly his own. Beck went so far as to not just change the way rock guitar was approached by a generation, but actually changed his technique to create the new sounds he imagined. Comparing him to Miles Davis maybe a bit much, but so far as premiere continually challenging himself and innovating to the end of their time, my vote would be for Beck.

  • @dickwilliam3793
    @dickwilliam37939 ай бұрын

    I went to a Clapton concert back in the day (in Melbourne) the most boring show I've ever been to, and on the other hand I went to see Neil Young, one of the best concerts I've been to. beck could play anything Clapton ever could, but could you imagine Clapton trying to play Nadia...not a hope in hell.

  • @ClarenceHW
    @ClarenceHW9 ай бұрын

    What a pleasant surprise, good job, couldn't agree more Eric gets the nod, but I do love Jeff. Both were early influences.

  • @shovelheadsteve1172
    @shovelheadsteve11729 ай бұрын

    JEFF BECK!!!

  • @griphfunk
    @griphfunk9 ай бұрын

    Didn't Duane Allman write the opening lick of Layla

  • @sinenkaari5477
    @sinenkaari54779 ай бұрын

    Yes it was Jack's riff

  • @robertrobles4028
    @robertrobles40286 ай бұрын

    Andy, this is a really special video. I almost didn’t watch it because I figured it was a foregone conclusion that Beck would win. In this present era, Clapton had been disrespected, maligned, and marginalized. 🙁Jeff Beck was among the very greatest innovators on the electric guitar to be sure, but to not acknowledge Clapton’s contributions to rock music is a huge mistake. Thanks for your acknowledgment

  • @leroysquab
    @leroysquab9 ай бұрын

    Bravo Andy, for showing us all how easily information can be manipulated to present any view. By your method of parsing the criteria, it almost makes sense. Almost. While I do have great appreciation for your reminding us all of Clapton's brilliant moments, you do Jeff Beck a great disservice in the comparison. You call Jeff Beck "flavor of the month" because he died?? Since I lack your high tech super-i-ometer, I had to do things the old fashion way. I blindfolded myself after having surrounded by Eric Clapton's half century+ worth of albums and threw stones on them. For every stinker I landed on, I deducted points and for every good one I added points. I then did the same with Jeff Beck. Surely, not too random because if we went album by album, Clapton would have lost by much more. That's not flavor of the month. That's flavor every month for 50 years. Clapton came on the scene as a 16 yr old phenome and he had about 7 brilliant years. After that, not so much. Compare that to Jeff Beck's consistently brilliant 50+ years. If one compares the lumens produced in sum total far exceed. Also, while it's a pretty terrific story that you stuck your head in Clapton's amp and really appreciated just how good he was, one only needed hear Beck in any circumstance to get how brilliant his playing was. Lastly, I know you love mocking people who complain about basing popularity as a factor but coming from the guy talking about how mediocre pop music is, um yeah, those inflated numbers from mediocre pop music should be rewarded. I know, I know... take it up with the super-i-ometer. LOL

  • @terryjohnson5275
    @terryjohnson52759 ай бұрын

    Good point well made about why Clapton was so much lower in the RS 250 guitarist list. Personally I'm similar to you in that I have far more Beck than Clapton, but I do have more Clapton than you seem to have. Growing up one of the first records I had was a Yardbirds compialtion with both Clapton and Beck on it and both were, to me at that time, great, and what Clapton did on the Beano album was a real game changer. On another note I went to the Rick Beato rant and noted that his pronounciation of John McLaughlin mirrors yours - so as with the recent JMcL post where he pronounces his own name many of us now need to - actually must - amend how we say it.

  • @AllanAbrams
    @AllanAbrams9 ай бұрын

    Andy, come on the Superiometer is a ruse, but you are pretty obvious about it. Here is how your commenters have rated Eric vs. Jeff. 20 in favor of Eric, 72 in favor of Jeff, and 5 gave them a tie. If that is a more objective Superiometer, Jeff gets the nod. In record sales, Eric wins by a landslide. If you look at peer respect, I think Jeff wins - comments by Eric, Jimmy Page, Brian May, David Gilmore, Joe Perry, Billy Gibbons, etc. Also, although Eric has provided a number of great accompaniements to singers, I believe Jeff has done more. Here are some of the singers who have chosen to perform/record with him - females : Chrysie Hynde, Tina Turner, Imelda May, Beth Hart, Diana Ross, Suzi Quatro, Wynona Judd, Cindi Lauper...males: Mick Jagger, Sting, Luciano Pavarotti, Ozzie Osburn, Paul Rogers, Van Morrison, Toots Hibbert, Tom Jones, Robert Plant, Buddy Guy, Dion, Stevie Wonder, Roger Waters, Roger Taylor etc. Beck was able to make his strat sing with the singers - many times with tones and phrasing that were a near perfect blend. The Superiometer needs a tune up.

  • @jimfritz2087
    @jimfritz20879 ай бұрын

    Apples and oranges .

  • @stephengodsmark4353
    @stephengodsmark43534 ай бұрын

    Clapton played in an Albion shirt. Game to Clapton.

  • @gokhanaya
    @gokhanaya9 ай бұрын

    Writing this before watching your superiometer but it's Jeff for me!

  • @elbib2446
    @elbib24469 ай бұрын

    oppurtunity knocks,the clapometer

  • @jyrik6654
    @jyrik66549 ай бұрын

    As perfect a machine the Superiometer is, I was surprised it didn't rate Beck's riffs (like Scatterbrain) higher, and gave credit to Clapton for riffs he didn't even invent. Bad Superiometer!

  • @gregarruda112
    @gregarruda1129 ай бұрын

    Never doubt the Supiorometer.

  • @egilskronbergs9846
    @egilskronbergs984610 күн бұрын

    Thank you for an interesting comparison. The Hitler comment killed me 😂 Somebody needs to look into that (or not):D

  • @robertrobles4028
    @robertrobles40286 ай бұрын

    Andy, great video. Just a slight correction here: Freddy King did indeed play a Gibson Les Paul Gold top which inspired Eric Clapton to buy a Les Paul. However Eric purchased a Gibson Sunburst 1960 model, not a Gold Top. There is no such guitar as a Gold Top Sunburst, it’s one or the other…. Cheers…😊

  • @AndyEdwardsDrummer

    @AndyEdwardsDrummer

    6 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the info

  • @robertrobles4028

    @robertrobles4028

    5 ай бұрын

    Andy, I hope you don’t mind one more correction: Ed Van Halen did indeed invent the Super Strat giving guitarists the feel of a Fender with the tone of a Gibson when he placed a Humbucker pickup in a Strat, and he was innovative on the Strat tremolo bar, ‘Eruption’ and the entire first VH album was recorded with a stock Fender Strat tremolo, but he didn’t invent the locking Floyd Rose tremolo system… Mr Floyd Rose did, allowing guitarist to use the tremolo bar with out going out of tune. Interestingly Jeff Beck did not use a Floyd Rose tremolo very much.

  • @user-rc3kh4pv9u
    @user-rc3kh4pv9u9 ай бұрын

    I love Clapton. I have just start listening to Beck. I thank you for this video. I love the stories.

  • @brianpatterson7332

    @brianpatterson7332

    7 ай бұрын

    I recommend watching the Live At Ronnie Scott's video. I think (for what little that's worth), purely as a guitarist, he's in a different league from Clapton. But Clapton can sing well, performs more accessible music and is a much better composer. These points favour Clapton as an all-round musician but they're sort of irrelevant to rating them as guitarists. Clapton is a one-trick pony - it's an absolutely great trick - but Beck continually reinvented himself and stretched himself throughout his career.

  • @geoffccrow2333
    @geoffccrow23339 ай бұрын

    The Kings of Tone

  • @philt4346
    @philt43469 ай бұрын

    I'm here to see one of 'em get a good kicking and he isn't into hot rods.

  • @tattyshoesshigure5731
    @tattyshoesshigure57319 ай бұрын

    I went to see Jeff Beck at the Albert Hall a few months before his shock passing & have to say I found it quite a disappointing gig. While I appreciate his brilliantly innovative, often experimental techniques they didn’t make for a satisfying concert experience… not for me on that evening anyway. I’ve seen Eric play many times at the same venue & elsewhere over the decades and for me his feeling, tone, and sheer ‘blues power’ are a more satisfying listening experience than that provided by Jeff - even though Jeff is the superior player technically - if that makes sense!

  • @juansecar2
    @juansecar29 ай бұрын

    Dude, Beck had little cornflake claptons for breakfast...

  • @eximusic
    @eximusic9 ай бұрын

    Apples and oranges as you pointed out. IMO Clapton's best stuff was on the Blues Breakers album. Beck's best, again to me, was Blow by Blow. Beck was amazing and innovative in his style. Clapton was traditional and really good at times. BTW, technical skill is a ridiculous parameter for any blues based music. It's more feeling and touch. Otherwise Elmore James would be considered a terrible guitarist. In fact too much technical skill playing the blues can detract from the style. And also, Sunshine of Your Love was overshadowed by Jimi Hendrix at that time (and supposedly modeled after Hendrix' sound).

  • @robinfereday6562
    @robinfereday65629 ай бұрын

    Got to be Clapton