BOOMER music vs GEN Z music | The Super-i-ometer sets the record straight!
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@SirLowhamHat11 ай бұрын
Thumbs up if you were here to see Andy shout 👍
@ArturdeSousaRocha11 ай бұрын
"If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat!"
@Rick-jg8vx11 ай бұрын
I love your ending. That was perfect. I’m a 60 year old boomer. I love the music from my era but I try to stay current and there is a Lotta great music coming out right now you just have to go find it. My dad stopped liking new music when he was 24 years old and I refused to ever be like my dad.
@jazzpunk
11 ай бұрын
...thing is, in the '60s/'70s, armed with only an AM Radio (in the parents' cars) & an AM transistor Radio...there was no "searching out the good music". It was omnipresent. And this was mainly Pop.
@steffenbrix11 ай бұрын
"There is more evil in the charts than an Al Quaida suggestion box"
@ArjayELevin3 ай бұрын
From a genuine grumpy boomer, thank you Andy! Your channel has quickly become my favorite. I never miss an episode. Don't change a thing!
@danzemacabre889911 ай бұрын
As a Gen X , we had a treasure trove of music and i wouldn't trade our music for anything and I'm not including grunge....except Soundgarden who really didn't sound like a grunge band anyway. And we had boomer music too, the 80s kicked ass
@rickg8015
11 ай бұрын
Especially Underground bands and the rise of small independent labels (indie ia such a bad word these days..)
@danzemacabre8899
11 ай бұрын
@rickg8015 I respect that but I'm talking what was once underground and recieved virtually no support through media but word of mouth , Iron Maiden ,Metallica ,the whole bay area thrash scene I still love to this day and we were fortunate to Black Sabbath, Rush, Triumph , Ozzy w/Randy ,Lee, and Daisley, Deep Purple M2 reunion, Rainbow , Dio ,Chuck Shuldinger and Death with Steve Digiorgio and Shawn , Gene, and R. Christy on percussion Soundgarden with one of the greatest vocalist in Rock with Chris and his solo stuff and of course we had the great boomer stuff too which I already mentioned some but Zeppelin and the Beatles of course SRV and Hendrix, Jaco, when I was a kid just starting out playing Music was such a treasure trove of experiences alot of the older stuff was great and the new stuff just seemed like an extension and progression of the things done before it, not so much anymore, I don't know if some of the music is actually played by humans and the over production, the overly compressed stuff just sucks ,there are no discernable instruments at times ,it's just one distorted smashed together thing,.yuck, not everything of course but a lot of it ,yes, but I'm fairly certain as picky as musicians can be ,we will phase back to a more analog time again and.then back to.digital or whatever the new sound will in the.future, as long A.I. doesn't completely render humans obsolete at some point
@grooveyerbouti
11 ай бұрын
Weird I just watched a video about how GenX were ignored, never really paid attention to the classification. I either like it or it's oasis.
@kniknayme986511 ай бұрын
Watchin' a guy crankin on about new music when I should be outside yelling at squirrels.
@lance9854111 ай бұрын
Music is crap these days because kids don't care anymore. When I was a kid, other kids had posters of musicians on their bedroom walls. Well, that era is well and truly dead and buried. Like you said “quality control,” there is none and sadly the younger music listeners these days couldn't care less.
@TheD4VR0S11 ай бұрын
Andy has been Obscured by Clouds
@rickg8015
11 ай бұрын
Wots… Uh the deal
@gerryrafferty7500
3 ай бұрын
❤
@Delsbo
3 ай бұрын
He’s talking about Childhood’s End
@user-qq4ev6il2r
2 ай бұрын
Now, now...don't start Burning Bridges
@sfmag111 ай бұрын
Also, the albums had jackets you could read or use to clean "herb".
@MikkelGrumBovin11 ай бұрын
Its scary how you sit there and tell MY life story ! i was born in 1969 - started my first band in School at 12 yrs old , and started playing progrock at 16 yrs , after hearing Frame By Frame with the Mighty Crim ! Stated out on drums , then guitar , and ended up a bassplayer - with 40 years on the 4 stings ! I listen to Holdsworth and Zappa every effing day and has done so for 20 years - With some Brand X and Bruford band , sprinkled in here and there ! - I have come to , sort of , like your rants and old wife tales - bless Ya ,-
@wavewithus408110 ай бұрын
You've quickly became my favorite ranter, I love the topics you discuss and you have a very entertaining way of going about these monologue discussions. Awesome, I find myself thinking about your words quite a lot
@ianhall496411 ай бұрын
You get the music you deserve
@gregarruda11211 ай бұрын
Born in1959 I had the Beatles,Stones etc. Then Prog ,Metal and Punk in the 😂70's. The 80,s New Wave, Post Punk. And through it all awesome Pop music . Now... 😢😢😢😢
@markvonwisco736911 ай бұрын
23:00 I literally took a sip of tea when the intermission message flashed on screen.😂
@b.rosannaruffo55111 ай бұрын
The Boomer music wins, as it should. Great video Andy!
@markperry94273 ай бұрын
Very entertaining video Andy , thank you. I am a boomer and as soon as you said the categories it seemed obvious to me boomer music would win. Probably the most interesting thing going on at the moment is Atmos production, but look who is forwarding that, Peter Gabriel who has been around since the 60's and Steven Wilson who has been around since the 90's in the industry. As Rick Beato said in one of of his videos, in twenty years time, who is going to be covering these songs? No one because they are uncoverable and they will be totally forgotten (to be honest , I've totally forgotten them two seconds after they've finished). There is great music being produced now, I'm fully in love with The Last Dinner Party, however, these are bands that are showing they have listened to Boomer music and understand and respect it.
@davebritton764811 ай бұрын
I'm so old the Beatles when were big when I was a kid, my older sister was a big fan. My dad told her: "In twenty years time no-one will remember the Beatles."
@briteness
11 ай бұрын
My grandfather was making the same point to my mother about Sinatra in the days when he was a teen idol.
@davebritton7648
11 ай бұрын
@@briteness They say there's nothing new under the sun.
@Alfred_Domke_antispace-sounds11 ай бұрын
I like this video and I like your music. I even bought Forbella - great album! But the best club in the world is Borussia Mönchengladbach!
@danielschaeffer129411 ай бұрын
What went on with the best of the 60s through the 80s pop and rock was that it was mostly a sophisticated development of earlier forms - jazz, country, gospel, and, supremely, THE BLUES. Is it there with the modern stuff? Or has it all DELIBERATELY cut itself off from the roots merely to SEEM sophisticated?
@jvpresnall11 ай бұрын
Love the angry old man yelling at clouds character you play. Hilarious! And he’s right!
@amasvodka11 ай бұрын
I feel like the last 10 years have been the absolute golden age of electronic music period, but you have to dig deeper than mainstream "EDM" to find these artists. The current level of technical ability and artistic vision simply blows the 90s out of the water, and it perfectly captures our zeitgeist right now as opposed to jazz and rock.
@amasvodka
11 ай бұрын
If a jazz musician had come up with the melody line for Mathew Jonson's Marionette, it would immediately have been added to the list of my favorite jazz songs of all time, but I don't hear new jazz musicians channeling the alienation of modern life in such a brutally honest yet tender way.
@amasvodka
11 ай бұрын
Or listening to the majestic beauty of Sugar's Vapouring Sun at a warehouse rave at 8:00 in the morning while the war rages in the Ukraine. Life feels incredibly real in that moment. This is the sound of our life and time.
@narosgmbh5916
11 ай бұрын
@@amasvodkayou dont have any edmjazz/jazzedm in your jazz playlist?
@Hartlor_Tayley11 ай бұрын
Oh btw another Tony Williams Lifetime at Beat Club just appeared on KZread
@sicko_the_ew11 ай бұрын
Maybe the art form that defines this new generation is the computer game? (Or maybe it's the meme?) And then the art form that will define the next generation might be Vogon poetry?
@nickm813410 ай бұрын
There's good (and bad) music in every era, IMHO, but in boomer times, kids began to have disposable income, and music was one of the few things to spend it on, so the amount of music being created was huge. Myself and a bunch of mates all had dreams of making our fortunes plying in bands, getting record deals etc. Video games in the 80's came along and that all changed. Then the internet in the 90's put another nail in the coffin. Most kids, i.e. people younger than 60 and even a few over 60, would rather play video games, or engage in some other nefarious digital activity, like chatting with friends, so they no longer spend money on music (OK, I know this is a gross over-simplification) Fortunately, there is still enough interest to keep music alive, and I can see this in my grand-kids and their friends. We are just in a rather dry period right now, I do hope that will change. I do love this ranting stuff 😄
@pablohuelszpiano963911 ай бұрын
I'm in my thirties but I have always preferred 60's to early 2000' s music to music from the late 2000,s and beyond . Commercial and popular music was way much much better in the old days . Everytime I point out that I don't like a lot of today's popular songs ( of course there are some notable exceptions ) people always say to me that the great music of this days is the underground one , and that you have to search for it , and yes there are some interesting things out there , but I honestly prefer the underground music of the 80's and 90' s , there are a lot of incredible bands that were not that radio friendly back in those days , a lot of music from the 4ad label is really amazing and I also love " October Project " from the early 90's .
@GBsdclf0111 ай бұрын
Thank you shouty man!
@danaaronmusic10 ай бұрын
I'm Gen X too, and all I can say is that the music of the seventies is better than today's music, but so is the music of the twenties, thirties, forties, fifties, sixties, eighties and nineties. Gen Z music is uniquely bad, and a perfect reflection of today's degenerate culture. Have a nice day.
@gregoryg325611 ай бұрын
🌠Duuude .! Hysterical !!!
@steevenfrost11 ай бұрын
We used to dream of living in a hole in the ground! Aye we had it tough! I miss the days of wax cylinders. There is still great music such as OK Goodnight album The Fox and The bird. I still am wary of anything auto tuned. Shouldn't be used to correct apparent anomalies in music pre auto tune.
@steffenbrix11 ай бұрын
I actually pretend every day that I'm living in the 80s...to feel better. This morning I listened to Madonna's Like a Prayer...and Like a Virgin with Weckl on drums 😊🙃
@davidmorgan6896
11 ай бұрын
The 80s were a musical nadir for me. Three King Crimson albums and some early EDM (maybe) and the rest was dross.
@ericmckayrq
11 ай бұрын
I want to hear that !
@steffenbrix
11 ай бұрын
@@davidmorgan6896 I love the 70s, 80s, 90s equally...
@davidmorgan6896
11 ай бұрын
@@steffenbrix Music got better, for me, in the 90s and there's a lot of current music I adore, but the 80s was so brash, so dominated by dreadful digital sounds that I just write the whole decade off. And, of course, mullets and jumpers tucked into jeans and any decade with Dexys Midnight Runners and white socks and slip-on loafers...
@steffenbrix
11 ай бұрын
@@davidmorgan6896 but I don't even know King Crimson...so we're obviously in different camps 🙃
@Pwecko11 ай бұрын
It's good to have objective confirmation that today's music is shit.
@kevincorrigan789311 ай бұрын
Boomer vs Gen X would be a good test of the Superiometer as well.
@danzemacabre8899
11 ай бұрын
I think there is more compatibility between the eras and seem to have much.more in common and much more influence comes out in the Gen X music from the Boomer stuff, I mean,.it was natural to have my Maiden Metallica.and Anthrax right next to my Sabbath, Deep Purple, Rush and Zeppelin and I could jam all that together and no complaints
@SmartCookie2022
2 ай бұрын
@@danzemacabre8899 Bruce Dickinson was born in 1958 which makes him a boomer. James Hetfield was born in 1963 which also makes him a boomer. So Iron Maiden and Metallica is boomer music which was also bought by Gen Xers. Rick Astley and Kurt Cobain were Gen X music.
@GraySierra611 ай бұрын
In 5 years all music is AI generated.Forgetaboutit! Keep rock alive as much as you can.
@steffenbrix
11 ай бұрын
AI is going away soon in music....it has no value there 👍
@wavewithus4081
10 ай бұрын
Not even close. Would take a lot longer and honestly I think it wouldn't really matter even if AI music gained 'mainstream' popularity. There's always gonna be people who like music for it's human aspect, and while AI holograms might become increasingly popular, I'll always want to see actual humans doing stuff on instruments and would always seek out and spend money on those performances as well. And if AI music really got that good? So what, people now have more music to enjoy? If they enjoy it, they enjoy it.. I think after the initial hype or interest, AI music will go back to being just another tool for producers to speed up their workflow, instead of clicking 1 button and letting an ai do the whole thing.
@ruedigernassauer
5 ай бұрын
This issue goes beyond music: With AI humankind will ultimately dumb down as machines can do and think anything.
@michaelgoetze210311 ай бұрын
I am a boomer and it is easy to present things in a way that makes oneself look best. There is a different perspective one can conjure up. One could argue that the pinnacle of 19th century western music was someone like Stravinsky. It's been downhill since then. And who started the slide? Was it perhaps boomer music? Easy to invent a narrative.
@lupcokotevski2907
11 ай бұрын
No, that's shifting the narrative to a broader idea with a distinctly different genre. Thats what leftists do when they cant win the argument at hand. Conflate.
@SuperQdaddy11 ай бұрын
I enjoyed the tea break Andy..brilliant...like I said we need more comedy...right *..your Brooklyn USA drumming buddy....carry on
@iansteel55695 ай бұрын
Thanks Andy, I think that music reminds us of when we were young and before we had mortgages, thats why its better. Also it just was better.
@stevemacarthur966011 ай бұрын
It's always worth the rant, though I remember a wee bit of pain when I subscribed - kidding! I plunked Forbella on my Bandcamp wishlist, so I'll be taking that out for a spin in the next few weeks (I don't like to listen before purchasing). Looking forward to the Steely Dan video, though I'm not sure if the title is more clickbaitery on your part - how could you not love the Dan...
@curtdilger623511 ай бұрын
Crank crank crankety crankelly cranky crank crankfest.....like beautiful music to cranky ears....keep cranking....maybe turn it up a bit....Cheers Andy omg superiometer is brilliant!! As the raccoon says, 'Imma steal that!'
@daveybeeeee11 ай бұрын
I nearly spilt my wine when I heard about wearing yer underpants for a week in the 70s! laughed so loud I got told off! Fantastic video Mr. Edwards. Need a new bottle of wine so no cash to flash this time but keep em coming... So funny and bring on the 100,000 😂😊
@AndyEdwardsDrummer
11 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@thrak911 ай бұрын
AOLNATION, Portugal. The Man, The Band Geeks, Pink, Evie Joy, and the like. the rest I ignore... I am 67. The prog/fusion bands I was into when they were current. You were too young. I am am confident you didn't buy Close to the Edge, Larks' Tongues in Aspic, Visions of the Emerald Beyond or Foxtrot... when they were released. You were 7 or 8. My little brother 9 years younger is into these 70s classic bands, because I turned him on to them. Your Superior rating is right on the mark. Oh, and Spirit's The 12 Dreams of Dr. Sardonicus. Matthew
@kzustang
11 ай бұрын
I'll drink one for Spirit's earlier albums as well...
@thrak9
11 ай бұрын
I got a line on you, man. That video of a whole hoard of Spirit people from 1984 is pretty cool. kzread.info/dash/bejne/YpmDqtdporDXfaw.html @@kzustang
@christophermoebs55143 ай бұрын
I'm a late 60s boomer and my kids like mostly old music they heard it growing up and they still like it
@cbolt449211 ай бұрын
Good video. Really like the production ideas
@AndyEdwardsDrummer
11 ай бұрын
Glad you like them!
@JohnnyRecently11 ай бұрын
A plethora of Z's and Millennial music lovers agree...Boomer music is better.
@patbarr135110 ай бұрын
Two things I really object to in recent "pop" songs: First, I'm easily bored by the blandness of the instrumental backing of most pop songs (often a drum box plus a keyboard or three). Second, I hear certain production techniques over & over (e.g. slowed down vocal bits & that overused "plunging in then emerging from underwater" effect). I'm all in for rock, alternative etc.-- lots of talent recently!
@zootallures647011 ай бұрын
We needed that cup of tea with _real biscuits_ like a breath of fresh air. Was that a suggestion of the Super-i-ometer?
@stephencarroll23011 ай бұрын
I work in a high school. Most kids listen to country music, their parents classic rock, or rap. When I was in high school everyone listened to rock, rap didn’t exist, country music was for hillbillies who like Dolly Parton, and we sure as hell didn’t like the pop crap (Andy Williams, Streisand, etc.) our parents liked!
@tomblaze210 ай бұрын
great content
@adamodimattia11 ай бұрын
On another topic, because it is the most recent video I wanted to make a request: would you kindly do an episode on Ronald Shannon Jackson? Love the channel, cheers!
@davidcarr221611 ай бұрын
An important discussion Andy, nicely done. The problem is that we’re talking chalk and cheese given how much things have changed and how differnt things are socially, technologically and economically. It’s almost like (as with many things) that music creation has been taken out of the hands of the elites and put into the hands of anyone who wants to do it. Is this good or bad ? I dunno..............
@pandstar11 ай бұрын
While I agree, that the technical ability has improved, the music most of these musicians are playing, doesn't really call for, nor require, high levels of musicianship. Sure, lots of those pop band musicians can play their asses off, but they are playing music that can actually be played by much lesser musicians. As if the world class chops of Thundercat, Devon Graves, Ronald Bruner, Kamasi Washington are really needed to play on Kendrick Lamar records.
@greggibbs36396 ай бұрын
You hit all the points. Nice work and funny as h@ll.
@freddieblue635111 ай бұрын
You have me listening to Rush again and I am being reminded that I do not hate them. I find that it is their early albums that I do not care for. They are a brilliant band. Witch hunt is a teen fav of mine,. I am 59. Long live prog!!!! I wonder what Andy thinks of Supertramp????
@patbarr1351
10 ай бұрын
I have the same reaction to Rush. As their music developed it became more nuanced, although the rawness of the early stuff must still appeal to lots of fans.
@jimrinehart502210 ай бұрын
Was this an episode of Grumpy Old Men?
@halcyon2895 ай бұрын
Clouds ? that'll be the Chemtrails then .
@ClimaticMusic10 ай бұрын
You’re hilarious ! 😂😂😂
@Hartlor_Tayley11 ай бұрын
I’ve looked at clouds from both sides now.
@seriousoldman8997
5 ай бұрын
I'm shaking my fist at both sides now.
@Hartlor_Tayley
5 ай бұрын
@@seriousoldman8997 get off my lawn ! 😂
@briandillon8041Ай бұрын
What a lovely wood grain, Tom Tom
@marilyncatterall40217 күн бұрын
Gen Z does have some great music, but you have to go searching for it. Fortunately, my 26 year old son keeps me informed ...... Having said that, a quick peak at old Top Of The Pops programmes from the 70s and 80s, suggests that my generation had to search for the good stuff too.
@davidmorgan689611 ай бұрын
A huge problem with current beat music - at least the more serious music - with regard to innovation, is that there aren't any new drugs. You can chart the evolution of beat music against the arrival of new ways of getting high. From weed and early psychedelia, to acid and prog, even speed and punk. As for technical ability, the arrival of the Guitar Institute of Technology in the late 80s changed everything. Now you have people like Dirty Loops, with their degrees in jazz who are technically outstanding. As for composition, I'll put Sleep Token up against anyone from my youth.
@narosgmbh5916
11 ай бұрын
When was your youth?
@davidmorgan6896
11 ай бұрын
@@narosgmbh5916 I turned 18 in 81.
@drewbjorke983911 ай бұрын
Horslips vs. Thin Lizzy
@203owen10 ай бұрын
Hello Andy. Would you please talk to us about Roy Harper?
@Hartlor_Tayley10 ай бұрын
If she says she’s jazz then she’s jazz. It’s always ladies night around here.
@AndyEdwardsDrummer
10 ай бұрын
Oh, yes, it's Ladies' Night And the feeling's right Oh, yes, it's Ladies' Night Oh, what a night (oh, what a night)
@Hartlor_Tayley
10 ай бұрын
@@AndyEdwardsDrummer oh what a night ! I commented on the wrong video. But the girls don’t seem to care.
@MalkuthEmperor10 ай бұрын
God damn, okay okay, ill like the damn video.. dont get all in a pansy ..shish 😂 26:32
@marknovak64983 ай бұрын
Even a mediocre band in the 70s has serious musical chops. They played for a few years in clubs and small venues as a musician for years before you heard the on the radio.
@KelliViti10 ай бұрын
Can't attach power chords, or simplicity only, to what Brian may added to all of Queen's music. Even if we are just talking about his guitar work.
@jeffreyromain73364 ай бұрын
Cumulus nimbus floats by.
@gerryrafferty75003 ай бұрын
Luxury we had to wait for it to rain on our house to shower
@lupcokotevski290711 ай бұрын
The meter might need an oil and filter change after that trip.
@paularmstrong60783 ай бұрын
I had an old man come to my office and he told me he could make clouds disappear just by looking at them and took me outside to show me. He wouldn't countenance my explanation that clouds evaporate and was worried that he would do it to a plane.
@johannhauffman32311 ай бұрын
Never give into the clouds, shake your your fist with all your might, then have tea and a biscuit in celebration of your victory !
@colinburroughs987111 ай бұрын
Kanye didn't disappear because he's so charismatic..lol
@musicgarryj11 ай бұрын
There's a lot of really good inventive music coming out of Japan these days, with some absolutely incredible musicians.
@ruedigernassauer
5 ай бұрын
Hello, name some names.
@musicgarryj
5 ай бұрын
Here are some really good Japanese rock/metal bands that have emerged recently. They contain a high proportion of excellent female musicians, which is very refreshing: Asterism, D_Drive, Band Maid, Nemophila, Aldious, Lovebites.@@ruedigernassauer
@roywilkinson207811 ай бұрын
Controversy: Gen X music is better than Boomer and Gen Z music combined. Also... Andy's Patreon saved my life. Best fiver I always spend monthly. [other Patreon's are not available]
@user-du1yk7uk9v11 ай бұрын
the term generation ZERO tells all
@SwampEye111 ай бұрын
Ok , I had a hot bath when I wanted one, even when I lived in Richmond, Twickenham, in the mid 70s, at age 5, ..mean whlie I live in Frankfurt, Germany, ... but I totally agree: back to the 70 s, .... best time of our lives, ....even those who wern't born yet ...
@naderzekrya5238
11 ай бұрын
Me too Richmond Twickenham 70s + 80s. Best times!
@judegraham46310 ай бұрын
as far as CHARISMA goes, don't get it mixed up with Narcism. I know narcism has been all the talk over the past 5 years or so with all those KZread channels talking about psychology but my point remains.
@briandillon8041Ай бұрын
Future video Brand X albums ranked 😊😊😊
@AndyEdwardsDrummer
Ай бұрын
I'm sure I have done this one!
@drj60211 ай бұрын
💩or 🍨 Which do you prefer ???
@1eflat11 ай бұрын
Miles Davis Group next Sly and the Family Stone
@dstarks36011 ай бұрын
sorry, mate, you lost me at "Adele and Ed Sheeran have as much charisma as Debbie Harry and George Clinton."
@ruedigernassauer
5 ай бұрын
Ed Sheeran does anything for money. In German TV he was once shown playing in a peep show as a joke.
@arzabael
2 ай бұрын
Do you have anything to actually say about it that can describe why you feel that way or are we just saying words
@patpatisserie424511 ай бұрын
Love this. My son is just as much into hip hop as I was into Purple, Zep, Rush and punk, anything with overdriven guitars. But, as I constantly have to explain, his generation's artistic output - videogame-inspired commercial crap, mostly stolen from other artists - will never make politicians sit up and think 'hey, you know those kids are right', like our music did. And those clouds can F-off too.
@Captain_Rhodes11 ай бұрын
Could you rank the Bros albums please? Thanks
@user-bz4fg9hf3d11 ай бұрын
Progressive rock for me is more complicated than jazz rock because it has more rich elements in the music (sometimes it has classical, symphonic, jazz, ragtime, even has opera singing, ethnic elements with real folk instruments in the band and they use much more instruments stuff in there. In this kind music there is great singers, in jazz there are few, and progressive rock or metal singing has a message lyrical and musical, and instrumental in other words it has all the package. Jazz rock fusion is rock music only influence mostly by jazz and in most casing it doesn''t have singing and I think that is really important. And don't get me wrong I love the style, but progressive rock or even metal use more elements in now days that is much more complex. Mahavishnu Orchestra is important band in jazz rock fusion, but the prog rock bands make new things in a bigger and higher level that for example Mahavishnu or Return to Forever didn''t really. If you want I dare you to listen the the bands Universal Totem Orchestra and the modern band Oryad. I forgot to mention you have to listen to the band Los Jaivas or even Yossi Sassi and the Oriental Rock Orchestra. Actually I want you to hear the composer Juan Carlos Portillo who can make music that is a combination of so many styles in one like: progressive rock, heavy metal, symphonic classical arrangements with a real orchestra, cosmic ambient (krautrock-expertimental rock) music, electronics, flamenco (Juan can play incredible on the guitar), with little bit jazz elements and using real folk, ancient/prehistoric instruments. He is even putting operatic/choral and folk singing in his compositions. Juan makes the most complex and complicated music that you ever here in your life. It’s like you are listening to a symphonic progressive folk rock/ metal opera like a real adventure. This is because I saw your setlist top 20 greatest prog and jazz rock albums.
@RocknJazzer
10 ай бұрын
Even the best most complex prog is nowhere near as complex harmonically, rhythmically, improvisationally or creative as the better jazz rock fusion. But you dont have to like it, there is no one size fits all taste. Most prog recycles the same ground over and over, stuck in more limited zones harmonically. Also most prog is far more rigid not as loose as fusion. Again you can like what you want, there is no better in art, but there are different levels of complexity, many that you may not grasp unless you are a musician that has all that covered (prog AND high leve jazz experience). It's just taste in the end, you like what you like regardless
@markspooner122411 ай бұрын
There was a time when you had to make an effort to hear the music you wanted to hear.
@Hartlor_Tayley11 ай бұрын
You made me realize the real winner is 40x8=X
@gerryrafferty75003 ай бұрын
Not to upset you further I have four off spring 23, 18, 14, 10 the 23 / 18 year old into artic monkeys the Beatles , mikes Davis and Pink Floyd( but that might be I Won’t charge them rent if the listen to DSOTM
@normanjones966311 ай бұрын
Hm, seeing that after 50 years the artists from the 70s are still well known and revered, which Gen Z artists do you think will still be known and revered in the year 2070 and beyond?
@steffenbrix
11 ай бұрын
I don't know any music coming after year 2000....so I really wouldn't know
@briteness
11 ай бұрын
Taylor Swift is likely to endure. She seems emblematic of the era.
@normanjones9663
11 ай бұрын
@@briteness Oh yes, I agree there.
@RocknJazzer
10 ай бұрын
none
@tuskact4overheaven873
9 ай бұрын
@@normanjones9663 probably also kendrick lamar and kanye west (hell they are still listened after almost a decade), evem tho i haven't heard anything from them yet ( a part from wesley's theory, which i really like).
@daicullinane774611 ай бұрын
I would not want to be back in the 70's. As I would not have been able to buy and listen to great songs like Walk Away or Solid State to name a couple..
@paularmstrong60783 ай бұрын
Will there even be bands in 50 years or music?
@colinburroughs9871
3 ай бұрын
AI is gonna make it hard to rationalize putting the time in to learn to play- I'd guess it'll be a triviality on par with renaissance festivals or something to see live musicians in 50 years for most people.
@trippknotic11 ай бұрын
Take that Boomer Bashers 🫵🏼 🤘🏽😂
@thefollandgnat3 ай бұрын
"Can't we go back to the 70s?", quoth Andy. He needs to take a lesson from the lady at the train station, when Limmy wants to go back to the mythical past in Millport: kzread.info/dash/bejne/aZyrw66acs7QpLQ.html
@djgerman57055 ай бұрын
Go and find compilations of hits in the 70s and 80s. There was so much crap, not just one bad apple to ruin the whole bunch. And the people went and bought it - by the millions. And I am mot only talking about your English folks. Check out the German Schlager and the Volksmusik, which has been a big deal here.
@dennismason374011 ай бұрын
What Robert did was challenge you to find the Joy of the Beat by lying to you ("you'll always work for guys like me"), a typical Plant move.
@sinenkaari5477
11 ай бұрын
Can you tell more what's this about?
@dennismason3740
11 ай бұрын
Andy played for Plant (I don't know how long) and Robert said to him "you'll always work for guys like me" which I didn't quite understand, then I watched and listened to Andy's playing and I realized what Robert meant. Robert was used to drummers who basically are what I would call a "joyful master", dudes with chops who simply rehearse their bits and when it comes time for the show they just let go - no thinking allowed. When Andy plays I can hear him thinking, total abandonment is not his strong suit. That can change should Andy trust his skills COMPLETELY. He has the chops, he is rock steady, that's how close he is to joyful abandonment. My theory is that Robert was challenging Andy to "let go" in his own a-hole way and yes, I love/hate the members of Zep.
@sinenkaari5477
11 ай бұрын
Thanks for expanding your take. I was interested in the topic couse of my own dealings with difficult musician that was the same chinese zodiac as is Plant, that is a Rat. I don't know do you think horoscopes are bullshit, maybe they are but in my case you can think what happens with a combination of Rat and Cat. That's the age old story of betrayal. I find the Rat people to be so irresponsable and they can lie about things with ease....
@dennismason3740
11 ай бұрын
@@sinenkaari5477 - this may not relate, or it may. I stopped "soliciting" other musicians (who ISN'T a musician? If you sing a note then you are a musician) 30 or 40 years ago. No band, just play and sing and write. The pettiness and jealousies among "musical" types in the L.A. scene are not worth the attention, no matter how talented they are. There are a lot of talented a-holes in this town. I met a couple of young groovy guys at the Target mall on Hollywood Boulevard a couple of months ago and we jammed right there in the mall and it sounded great. One guy had a mandolin, another a squeeze-box SO there are exceptions. I always carry a guitar or ukulele when I walk, NOT encased and I respectfully challenge the "musicians" to take their guitars out of the cases. They never do, they go to a local music school at sixteen-thousand-dollars per semester. I perform on the Walk of Fame sometimes. There is always great music being played on planet Earth by humans, even if it's not recorded. Imma Virgo, 1953.
@thomasrichmond241311 ай бұрын
You’ll always find good music in any era. Christ, I just discovered Polyphia last month and am gonna go see them live next month. It’s the popular music, the stuff everyone listens to, is what you need to compare. Just search the top 100 tunes from 1972. There won’t be any need for your superiometer!
@markvonwisco736911 ай бұрын
Some thoughts about modern music vs. Boomer/Gen X, etc. music. In my opinion, there is a much good music being made today as there ever was. To piggyback of one of Andy's points though, the issue is that it's so much easier to record and release music with a reasonable level of production today, that there's a lot more dross to sift through to find the diamonds. I'm a hobbyist musician myself. Over the past 15 years or so, I've played and sung on several self-released CDs that had better production than some music from the 70s or 80s recorded in actual studios. These days, it only takes a few thousand dollars to put together a decent home studio. The barrier to entry will continue get lower as technology continues to advance. An example of the above, you can spend $250-500 USD to buy a very playable guitar or bass that's far superior to an equivalent entry level instrument from the 70s, 80s or 90s! Apologies for the length of the comment!
@richardthurston217111 ай бұрын
Dead heat for horrible clothes.
@kevincorrigan789311 ай бұрын
Do you also have an Inferio-meter?
@2yhtomit11 ай бұрын
There are so many things in this world that I don't understand. Among them is the fact that, approximately an hour after this video was aired, it had 268 views, but only 52 likes. I don't get it. How can people not click the Like button after watching this? Is it too hard (like, you know, I'd have to eat a cheeseburger to make up for all the energy I'd expend clicking my mouse one time)? If they don't like it enough to click Like, why did they watch it at all? I don't know. People are scum, in general. Leaving trash all around, running stop signs and red lights, watching Fox news, and not clicking the Like button. It's hard to keep the faith!
@cafe.cedarbeard11 ай бұрын
If Taylor Swift is the top that says it all. I can't stand her lyrics nor her bland and weak vocals, almost always hating on men, like a Stevie Nicks light. I never knew it was her until the Shazam app came into my view and it told me the artist associated with those all to common bland and man hating sounds. When something like The Cure comes on it's a ray of sunshine poking through the cloud of robot exhaust polluting the waves of public sound systems.
@jimmycampbell78
11 ай бұрын
Yes she is dreadful but she is definitely an artist that is representative of the era that we currently live in. Woke, feminist and bland.
@colinburroughs9871
3 ай бұрын
She's also put her whole album up on the Billboard chart now. It's strongly indicative of a subset of folks (who's that?) having no taste, but like I say, Live, Laugh, Love..
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Thumbs up if you were here to see Andy shout 👍
"If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat!"
I love your ending. That was perfect. I’m a 60 year old boomer. I love the music from my era but I try to stay current and there is a Lotta great music coming out right now you just have to go find it. My dad stopped liking new music when he was 24 years old and I refused to ever be like my dad.
@jazzpunk
11 ай бұрын
...thing is, in the '60s/'70s, armed with only an AM Radio (in the parents' cars) & an AM transistor Radio...there was no "searching out the good music". It was omnipresent. And this was mainly Pop.
"There is more evil in the charts than an Al Quaida suggestion box"
From a genuine grumpy boomer, thank you Andy! Your channel has quickly become my favorite. I never miss an episode. Don't change a thing!
As a Gen X , we had a treasure trove of music and i wouldn't trade our music for anything and I'm not including grunge....except Soundgarden who really didn't sound like a grunge band anyway. And we had boomer music too, the 80s kicked ass
@rickg8015
11 ай бұрын
Especially Underground bands and the rise of small independent labels (indie ia such a bad word these days..)
@danzemacabre8899
11 ай бұрын
@rickg8015 I respect that but I'm talking what was once underground and recieved virtually no support through media but word of mouth , Iron Maiden ,Metallica ,the whole bay area thrash scene I still love to this day and we were fortunate to Black Sabbath, Rush, Triumph , Ozzy w/Randy ,Lee, and Daisley, Deep Purple M2 reunion, Rainbow , Dio ,Chuck Shuldinger and Death with Steve Digiorgio and Shawn , Gene, and R. Christy on percussion Soundgarden with one of the greatest vocalist in Rock with Chris and his solo stuff and of course we had the great boomer stuff too which I already mentioned some but Zeppelin and the Beatles of course SRV and Hendrix, Jaco, when I was a kid just starting out playing Music was such a treasure trove of experiences alot of the older stuff was great and the new stuff just seemed like an extension and progression of the things done before it, not so much anymore, I don't know if some of the music is actually played by humans and the over production, the overly compressed stuff just sucks ,there are no discernable instruments at times ,it's just one distorted smashed together thing,.yuck, not everything of course but a lot of it ,yes, but I'm fairly certain as picky as musicians can be ,we will phase back to a more analog time again and.then back to.digital or whatever the new sound will in the.future, as long A.I. doesn't completely render humans obsolete at some point
@grooveyerbouti
11 ай бұрын
Weird I just watched a video about how GenX were ignored, never really paid attention to the classification. I either like it or it's oasis.
Watchin' a guy crankin on about new music when I should be outside yelling at squirrels.
Music is crap these days because kids don't care anymore. When I was a kid, other kids had posters of musicians on their bedroom walls. Well, that era is well and truly dead and buried. Like you said “quality control,” there is none and sadly the younger music listeners these days couldn't care less.
Andy has been Obscured by Clouds
@rickg8015
11 ай бұрын
Wots… Uh the deal
@gerryrafferty7500
3 ай бұрын
❤
@Delsbo
3 ай бұрын
He’s talking about Childhood’s End
@user-qq4ev6il2r
2 ай бұрын
Now, now...don't start Burning Bridges
Also, the albums had jackets you could read or use to clean "herb".
Its scary how you sit there and tell MY life story ! i was born in 1969 - started my first band in School at 12 yrs old , and started playing progrock at 16 yrs , after hearing Frame By Frame with the Mighty Crim ! Stated out on drums , then guitar , and ended up a bassplayer - with 40 years on the 4 stings ! I listen to Holdsworth and Zappa every effing day and has done so for 20 years - With some Brand X and Bruford band , sprinkled in here and there ! - I have come to , sort of , like your rants and old wife tales - bless Ya ,-
You've quickly became my favorite ranter, I love the topics you discuss and you have a very entertaining way of going about these monologue discussions. Awesome, I find myself thinking about your words quite a lot
You get the music you deserve
Born in1959 I had the Beatles,Stones etc. Then Prog ,Metal and Punk in the 😂70's. The 80,s New Wave, Post Punk. And through it all awesome Pop music . Now... 😢😢😢😢
23:00 I literally took a sip of tea when the intermission message flashed on screen.😂
The Boomer music wins, as it should. Great video Andy!
Very entertaining video Andy , thank you. I am a boomer and as soon as you said the categories it seemed obvious to me boomer music would win. Probably the most interesting thing going on at the moment is Atmos production, but look who is forwarding that, Peter Gabriel who has been around since the 60's and Steven Wilson who has been around since the 90's in the industry. As Rick Beato said in one of of his videos, in twenty years time, who is going to be covering these songs? No one because they are uncoverable and they will be totally forgotten (to be honest , I've totally forgotten them two seconds after they've finished). There is great music being produced now, I'm fully in love with The Last Dinner Party, however, these are bands that are showing they have listened to Boomer music and understand and respect it.
I'm so old the Beatles when were big when I was a kid, my older sister was a big fan. My dad told her: "In twenty years time no-one will remember the Beatles."
@briteness
11 ай бұрын
My grandfather was making the same point to my mother about Sinatra in the days when he was a teen idol.
@davebritton7648
11 ай бұрын
@@briteness They say there's nothing new under the sun.
I like this video and I like your music. I even bought Forbella - great album! But the best club in the world is Borussia Mönchengladbach!
What went on with the best of the 60s through the 80s pop and rock was that it was mostly a sophisticated development of earlier forms - jazz, country, gospel, and, supremely, THE BLUES. Is it there with the modern stuff? Or has it all DELIBERATELY cut itself off from the roots merely to SEEM sophisticated?
Love the angry old man yelling at clouds character you play. Hilarious! And he’s right!
I feel like the last 10 years have been the absolute golden age of electronic music period, but you have to dig deeper than mainstream "EDM" to find these artists. The current level of technical ability and artistic vision simply blows the 90s out of the water, and it perfectly captures our zeitgeist right now as opposed to jazz and rock.
@amasvodka
11 ай бұрын
If a jazz musician had come up with the melody line for Mathew Jonson's Marionette, it would immediately have been added to the list of my favorite jazz songs of all time, but I don't hear new jazz musicians channeling the alienation of modern life in such a brutally honest yet tender way.
@amasvodka
11 ай бұрын
Or listening to the majestic beauty of Sugar's Vapouring Sun at a warehouse rave at 8:00 in the morning while the war rages in the Ukraine. Life feels incredibly real in that moment. This is the sound of our life and time.
@narosgmbh5916
11 ай бұрын
@@amasvodkayou dont have any edmjazz/jazzedm in your jazz playlist?
Oh btw another Tony Williams Lifetime at Beat Club just appeared on KZread
Maybe the art form that defines this new generation is the computer game? (Or maybe it's the meme?) And then the art form that will define the next generation might be Vogon poetry?
There's good (and bad) music in every era, IMHO, but in boomer times, kids began to have disposable income, and music was one of the few things to spend it on, so the amount of music being created was huge. Myself and a bunch of mates all had dreams of making our fortunes plying in bands, getting record deals etc. Video games in the 80's came along and that all changed. Then the internet in the 90's put another nail in the coffin. Most kids, i.e. people younger than 60 and even a few over 60, would rather play video games, or engage in some other nefarious digital activity, like chatting with friends, so they no longer spend money on music (OK, I know this is a gross over-simplification) Fortunately, there is still enough interest to keep music alive, and I can see this in my grand-kids and their friends. We are just in a rather dry period right now, I do hope that will change. I do love this ranting stuff 😄
I'm in my thirties but I have always preferred 60's to early 2000' s music to music from the late 2000,s and beyond . Commercial and popular music was way much much better in the old days . Everytime I point out that I don't like a lot of today's popular songs ( of course there are some notable exceptions ) people always say to me that the great music of this days is the underground one , and that you have to search for it , and yes there are some interesting things out there , but I honestly prefer the underground music of the 80's and 90' s , there are a lot of incredible bands that were not that radio friendly back in those days , a lot of music from the 4ad label is really amazing and I also love " October Project " from the early 90's .
Thank you shouty man!
I'm Gen X too, and all I can say is that the music of the seventies is better than today's music, but so is the music of the twenties, thirties, forties, fifties, sixties, eighties and nineties. Gen Z music is uniquely bad, and a perfect reflection of today's degenerate culture. Have a nice day.
🌠Duuude .! Hysterical !!!
We used to dream of living in a hole in the ground! Aye we had it tough! I miss the days of wax cylinders. There is still great music such as OK Goodnight album The Fox and The bird. I still am wary of anything auto tuned. Shouldn't be used to correct apparent anomalies in music pre auto tune.
I actually pretend every day that I'm living in the 80s...to feel better. This morning I listened to Madonna's Like a Prayer...and Like a Virgin with Weckl on drums 😊🙃
@davidmorgan6896
11 ай бұрын
The 80s were a musical nadir for me. Three King Crimson albums and some early EDM (maybe) and the rest was dross.
@ericmckayrq
11 ай бұрын
I want to hear that !
@steffenbrix
11 ай бұрын
@@davidmorgan6896 I love the 70s, 80s, 90s equally...
@davidmorgan6896
11 ай бұрын
@@steffenbrix Music got better, for me, in the 90s and there's a lot of current music I adore, but the 80s was so brash, so dominated by dreadful digital sounds that I just write the whole decade off. And, of course, mullets and jumpers tucked into jeans and any decade with Dexys Midnight Runners and white socks and slip-on loafers...
@steffenbrix
11 ай бұрын
@@davidmorgan6896 but I don't even know King Crimson...so we're obviously in different camps 🙃
It's good to have objective confirmation that today's music is shit.
Boomer vs Gen X would be a good test of the Superiometer as well.
@danzemacabre8899
11 ай бұрын
I think there is more compatibility between the eras and seem to have much.more in common and much more influence comes out in the Gen X music from the Boomer stuff, I mean,.it was natural to have my Maiden Metallica.and Anthrax right next to my Sabbath, Deep Purple, Rush and Zeppelin and I could jam all that together and no complaints
@SmartCookie2022
2 ай бұрын
@@danzemacabre8899 Bruce Dickinson was born in 1958 which makes him a boomer. James Hetfield was born in 1963 which also makes him a boomer. So Iron Maiden and Metallica is boomer music which was also bought by Gen Xers. Rick Astley and Kurt Cobain were Gen X music.
In 5 years all music is AI generated.Forgetaboutit! Keep rock alive as much as you can.
@steffenbrix
11 ай бұрын
AI is going away soon in music....it has no value there 👍
@wavewithus4081
10 ай бұрын
Not even close. Would take a lot longer and honestly I think it wouldn't really matter even if AI music gained 'mainstream' popularity. There's always gonna be people who like music for it's human aspect, and while AI holograms might become increasingly popular, I'll always want to see actual humans doing stuff on instruments and would always seek out and spend money on those performances as well. And if AI music really got that good? So what, people now have more music to enjoy? If they enjoy it, they enjoy it.. I think after the initial hype or interest, AI music will go back to being just another tool for producers to speed up their workflow, instead of clicking 1 button and letting an ai do the whole thing.
@ruedigernassauer
5 ай бұрын
This issue goes beyond music: With AI humankind will ultimately dumb down as machines can do and think anything.
I am a boomer and it is easy to present things in a way that makes oneself look best. There is a different perspective one can conjure up. One could argue that the pinnacle of 19th century western music was someone like Stravinsky. It's been downhill since then. And who started the slide? Was it perhaps boomer music? Easy to invent a narrative.
@lupcokotevski2907
11 ай бұрын
No, that's shifting the narrative to a broader idea with a distinctly different genre. Thats what leftists do when they cant win the argument at hand. Conflate.
I enjoyed the tea break Andy..brilliant...like I said we need more comedy...right *..your Brooklyn USA drumming buddy....carry on
Thanks Andy, I think that music reminds us of when we were young and before we had mortgages, thats why its better. Also it just was better.
It's always worth the rant, though I remember a wee bit of pain when I subscribed - kidding! I plunked Forbella on my Bandcamp wishlist, so I'll be taking that out for a spin in the next few weeks (I don't like to listen before purchasing). Looking forward to the Steely Dan video, though I'm not sure if the title is more clickbaitery on your part - how could you not love the Dan...
Crank crank crankety crankelly cranky crank crankfest.....like beautiful music to cranky ears....keep cranking....maybe turn it up a bit....Cheers Andy omg superiometer is brilliant!! As the raccoon says, 'Imma steal that!'
I nearly spilt my wine when I heard about wearing yer underpants for a week in the 70s! laughed so loud I got told off! Fantastic video Mr. Edwards. Need a new bottle of wine so no cash to flash this time but keep em coming... So funny and bring on the 100,000 😂😊
@AndyEdwardsDrummer
11 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
AOLNATION, Portugal. The Man, The Band Geeks, Pink, Evie Joy, and the like. the rest I ignore... I am 67. The prog/fusion bands I was into when they were current. You were too young. I am am confident you didn't buy Close to the Edge, Larks' Tongues in Aspic, Visions of the Emerald Beyond or Foxtrot... when they were released. You were 7 or 8. My little brother 9 years younger is into these 70s classic bands, because I turned him on to them. Your Superior rating is right on the mark. Oh, and Spirit's The 12 Dreams of Dr. Sardonicus. Matthew
@kzustang
11 ай бұрын
I'll drink one for Spirit's earlier albums as well...
@thrak9
11 ай бұрын
I got a line on you, man. That video of a whole hoard of Spirit people from 1984 is pretty cool. kzread.info/dash/bejne/YpmDqtdporDXfaw.html @@kzustang
I'm a late 60s boomer and my kids like mostly old music they heard it growing up and they still like it
Good video. Really like the production ideas
@AndyEdwardsDrummer
11 ай бұрын
Glad you like them!
A plethora of Z's and Millennial music lovers agree...Boomer music is better.
Two things I really object to in recent "pop" songs: First, I'm easily bored by the blandness of the instrumental backing of most pop songs (often a drum box plus a keyboard or three). Second, I hear certain production techniques over & over (e.g. slowed down vocal bits & that overused "plunging in then emerging from underwater" effect). I'm all in for rock, alternative etc.-- lots of talent recently!
We needed that cup of tea with _real biscuits_ like a breath of fresh air. Was that a suggestion of the Super-i-ometer?
I work in a high school. Most kids listen to country music, their parents classic rock, or rap. When I was in high school everyone listened to rock, rap didn’t exist, country music was for hillbillies who like Dolly Parton, and we sure as hell didn’t like the pop crap (Andy Williams, Streisand, etc.) our parents liked!
great content
On another topic, because it is the most recent video I wanted to make a request: would you kindly do an episode on Ronald Shannon Jackson? Love the channel, cheers!
An important discussion Andy, nicely done. The problem is that we’re talking chalk and cheese given how much things have changed and how differnt things are socially, technologically and economically. It’s almost like (as with many things) that music creation has been taken out of the hands of the elites and put into the hands of anyone who wants to do it. Is this good or bad ? I dunno..............
While I agree, that the technical ability has improved, the music most of these musicians are playing, doesn't really call for, nor require, high levels of musicianship. Sure, lots of those pop band musicians can play their asses off, but they are playing music that can actually be played by much lesser musicians. As if the world class chops of Thundercat, Devon Graves, Ronald Bruner, Kamasi Washington are really needed to play on Kendrick Lamar records.
You hit all the points. Nice work and funny as h@ll.
You have me listening to Rush again and I am being reminded that I do not hate them. I find that it is their early albums that I do not care for. They are a brilliant band. Witch hunt is a teen fav of mine,. I am 59. Long live prog!!!! I wonder what Andy thinks of Supertramp????
@patbarr1351
10 ай бұрын
I have the same reaction to Rush. As their music developed it became more nuanced, although the rawness of the early stuff must still appeal to lots of fans.
Was this an episode of Grumpy Old Men?
Clouds ? that'll be the Chemtrails then .
You’re hilarious ! 😂😂😂
I’ve looked at clouds from both sides now.
@seriousoldman8997
5 ай бұрын
I'm shaking my fist at both sides now.
@Hartlor_Tayley
5 ай бұрын
@@seriousoldman8997 get off my lawn ! 😂
What a lovely wood grain, Tom Tom
Gen Z does have some great music, but you have to go searching for it. Fortunately, my 26 year old son keeps me informed ...... Having said that, a quick peak at old Top Of The Pops programmes from the 70s and 80s, suggests that my generation had to search for the good stuff too.
A huge problem with current beat music - at least the more serious music - with regard to innovation, is that there aren't any new drugs. You can chart the evolution of beat music against the arrival of new ways of getting high. From weed and early psychedelia, to acid and prog, even speed and punk. As for technical ability, the arrival of the Guitar Institute of Technology in the late 80s changed everything. Now you have people like Dirty Loops, with their degrees in jazz who are technically outstanding. As for composition, I'll put Sleep Token up against anyone from my youth.
@narosgmbh5916
11 ай бұрын
When was your youth?
@davidmorgan6896
11 ай бұрын
@@narosgmbh5916 I turned 18 in 81.
Horslips vs. Thin Lizzy
Hello Andy. Would you please talk to us about Roy Harper?
If she says she’s jazz then she’s jazz. It’s always ladies night around here.
@AndyEdwardsDrummer
10 ай бұрын
Oh, yes, it's Ladies' Night And the feeling's right Oh, yes, it's Ladies' Night Oh, what a night (oh, what a night)
@Hartlor_Tayley
10 ай бұрын
@@AndyEdwardsDrummer oh what a night ! I commented on the wrong video. But the girls don’t seem to care.
God damn, okay okay, ill like the damn video.. dont get all in a pansy ..shish 😂 26:32
Even a mediocre band in the 70s has serious musical chops. They played for a few years in clubs and small venues as a musician for years before you heard the on the radio.
Can't attach power chords, or simplicity only, to what Brian may added to all of Queen's music. Even if we are just talking about his guitar work.
Cumulus nimbus floats by.
Luxury we had to wait for it to rain on our house to shower
The meter might need an oil and filter change after that trip.
I had an old man come to my office and he told me he could make clouds disappear just by looking at them and took me outside to show me. He wouldn't countenance my explanation that clouds evaporate and was worried that he would do it to a plane.
Never give into the clouds, shake your your fist with all your might, then have tea and a biscuit in celebration of your victory !
Kanye didn't disappear because he's so charismatic..lol
There's a lot of really good inventive music coming out of Japan these days, with some absolutely incredible musicians.
@ruedigernassauer
5 ай бұрын
Hello, name some names.
@musicgarryj
5 ай бұрын
Here are some really good Japanese rock/metal bands that have emerged recently. They contain a high proportion of excellent female musicians, which is very refreshing: Asterism, D_Drive, Band Maid, Nemophila, Aldious, Lovebites.@@ruedigernassauer
Controversy: Gen X music is better than Boomer and Gen Z music combined. Also... Andy's Patreon saved my life. Best fiver I always spend monthly. [other Patreon's are not available]
the term generation ZERO tells all
Ok , I had a hot bath when I wanted one, even when I lived in Richmond, Twickenham, in the mid 70s, at age 5, ..mean whlie I live in Frankfurt, Germany, ... but I totally agree: back to the 70 s, .... best time of our lives, ....even those who wern't born yet ...
@naderzekrya5238
11 ай бұрын
Me too Richmond Twickenham 70s + 80s. Best times!
as far as CHARISMA goes, don't get it mixed up with Narcism. I know narcism has been all the talk over the past 5 years or so with all those KZread channels talking about psychology but my point remains.
Future video Brand X albums ranked 😊😊😊
@AndyEdwardsDrummer
Ай бұрын
I'm sure I have done this one!
💩or 🍨 Which do you prefer ???
Miles Davis Group next Sly and the Family Stone
sorry, mate, you lost me at "Adele and Ed Sheeran have as much charisma as Debbie Harry and George Clinton."
@ruedigernassauer
5 ай бұрын
Ed Sheeran does anything for money. In German TV he was once shown playing in a peep show as a joke.
@arzabael
2 ай бұрын
Do you have anything to actually say about it that can describe why you feel that way or are we just saying words
Love this. My son is just as much into hip hop as I was into Purple, Zep, Rush and punk, anything with overdriven guitars. But, as I constantly have to explain, his generation's artistic output - videogame-inspired commercial crap, mostly stolen from other artists - will never make politicians sit up and think 'hey, you know those kids are right', like our music did. And those clouds can F-off too.
Could you rank the Bros albums please? Thanks
Progressive rock for me is more complicated than jazz rock because it has more rich elements in the music (sometimes it has classical, symphonic, jazz, ragtime, even has opera singing, ethnic elements with real folk instruments in the band and they use much more instruments stuff in there. In this kind music there is great singers, in jazz there are few, and progressive rock or metal singing has a message lyrical and musical, and instrumental in other words it has all the package. Jazz rock fusion is rock music only influence mostly by jazz and in most casing it doesn''t have singing and I think that is really important. And don't get me wrong I love the style, but progressive rock or even metal use more elements in now days that is much more complex. Mahavishnu Orchestra is important band in jazz rock fusion, but the prog rock bands make new things in a bigger and higher level that for example Mahavishnu or Return to Forever didn''t really. If you want I dare you to listen the the bands Universal Totem Orchestra and the modern band Oryad. I forgot to mention you have to listen to the band Los Jaivas or even Yossi Sassi and the Oriental Rock Orchestra. Actually I want you to hear the composer Juan Carlos Portillo who can make music that is a combination of so many styles in one like: progressive rock, heavy metal, symphonic classical arrangements with a real orchestra, cosmic ambient (krautrock-expertimental rock) music, electronics, flamenco (Juan can play incredible on the guitar), with little bit jazz elements and using real folk, ancient/prehistoric instruments. He is even putting operatic/choral and folk singing in his compositions. Juan makes the most complex and complicated music that you ever here in your life. It’s like you are listening to a symphonic progressive folk rock/ metal opera like a real adventure. This is because I saw your setlist top 20 greatest prog and jazz rock albums.
@RocknJazzer
10 ай бұрын
Even the best most complex prog is nowhere near as complex harmonically, rhythmically, improvisationally or creative as the better jazz rock fusion. But you dont have to like it, there is no one size fits all taste. Most prog recycles the same ground over and over, stuck in more limited zones harmonically. Also most prog is far more rigid not as loose as fusion. Again you can like what you want, there is no better in art, but there are different levels of complexity, many that you may not grasp unless you are a musician that has all that covered (prog AND high leve jazz experience). It's just taste in the end, you like what you like regardless
There was a time when you had to make an effort to hear the music you wanted to hear.
You made me realize the real winner is 40x8=X
Not to upset you further I have four off spring 23, 18, 14, 10 the 23 / 18 year old into artic monkeys the Beatles , mikes Davis and Pink Floyd( but that might be I Won’t charge them rent if the listen to DSOTM
Hm, seeing that after 50 years the artists from the 70s are still well known and revered, which Gen Z artists do you think will still be known and revered in the year 2070 and beyond?
@steffenbrix
11 ай бұрын
I don't know any music coming after year 2000....so I really wouldn't know
@briteness
11 ай бұрын
Taylor Swift is likely to endure. She seems emblematic of the era.
@normanjones9663
11 ай бұрын
@@briteness Oh yes, I agree there.
@RocknJazzer
10 ай бұрын
none
@tuskact4overheaven873
9 ай бұрын
@@normanjones9663 probably also kendrick lamar and kanye west (hell they are still listened after almost a decade), evem tho i haven't heard anything from them yet ( a part from wesley's theory, which i really like).
I would not want to be back in the 70's. As I would not have been able to buy and listen to great songs like Walk Away or Solid State to name a couple..
Will there even be bands in 50 years or music?
@colinburroughs9871
3 ай бұрын
AI is gonna make it hard to rationalize putting the time in to learn to play- I'd guess it'll be a triviality on par with renaissance festivals or something to see live musicians in 50 years for most people.
Take that Boomer Bashers 🫵🏼 🤘🏽😂
"Can't we go back to the 70s?", quoth Andy. He needs to take a lesson from the lady at the train station, when Limmy wants to go back to the mythical past in Millport: kzread.info/dash/bejne/aZyrw66acs7QpLQ.html
Go and find compilations of hits in the 70s and 80s. There was so much crap, not just one bad apple to ruin the whole bunch. And the people went and bought it - by the millions. And I am mot only talking about your English folks. Check out the German Schlager and the Volksmusik, which has been a big deal here.
What Robert did was challenge you to find the Joy of the Beat by lying to you ("you'll always work for guys like me"), a typical Plant move.
@sinenkaari5477
11 ай бұрын
Can you tell more what's this about?
@dennismason3740
11 ай бұрын
Andy played for Plant (I don't know how long) and Robert said to him "you'll always work for guys like me" which I didn't quite understand, then I watched and listened to Andy's playing and I realized what Robert meant. Robert was used to drummers who basically are what I would call a "joyful master", dudes with chops who simply rehearse their bits and when it comes time for the show they just let go - no thinking allowed. When Andy plays I can hear him thinking, total abandonment is not his strong suit. That can change should Andy trust his skills COMPLETELY. He has the chops, he is rock steady, that's how close he is to joyful abandonment. My theory is that Robert was challenging Andy to "let go" in his own a-hole way and yes, I love/hate the members of Zep.
@sinenkaari5477
11 ай бұрын
Thanks for expanding your take. I was interested in the topic couse of my own dealings with difficult musician that was the same chinese zodiac as is Plant, that is a Rat. I don't know do you think horoscopes are bullshit, maybe they are but in my case you can think what happens with a combination of Rat and Cat. That's the age old story of betrayal. I find the Rat people to be so irresponsable and they can lie about things with ease....
@dennismason3740
11 ай бұрын
@@sinenkaari5477 - this may not relate, or it may. I stopped "soliciting" other musicians (who ISN'T a musician? If you sing a note then you are a musician) 30 or 40 years ago. No band, just play and sing and write. The pettiness and jealousies among "musical" types in the L.A. scene are not worth the attention, no matter how talented they are. There are a lot of talented a-holes in this town. I met a couple of young groovy guys at the Target mall on Hollywood Boulevard a couple of months ago and we jammed right there in the mall and it sounded great. One guy had a mandolin, another a squeeze-box SO there are exceptions. I always carry a guitar or ukulele when I walk, NOT encased and I respectfully challenge the "musicians" to take their guitars out of the cases. They never do, they go to a local music school at sixteen-thousand-dollars per semester. I perform on the Walk of Fame sometimes. There is always great music being played on planet Earth by humans, even if it's not recorded. Imma Virgo, 1953.
You’ll always find good music in any era. Christ, I just discovered Polyphia last month and am gonna go see them live next month. It’s the popular music, the stuff everyone listens to, is what you need to compare. Just search the top 100 tunes from 1972. There won’t be any need for your superiometer!
Some thoughts about modern music vs. Boomer/Gen X, etc. music. In my opinion, there is a much good music being made today as there ever was. To piggyback of one of Andy's points though, the issue is that it's so much easier to record and release music with a reasonable level of production today, that there's a lot more dross to sift through to find the diamonds. I'm a hobbyist musician myself. Over the past 15 years or so, I've played and sung on several self-released CDs that had better production than some music from the 70s or 80s recorded in actual studios. These days, it only takes a few thousand dollars to put together a decent home studio. The barrier to entry will continue get lower as technology continues to advance. An example of the above, you can spend $250-500 USD to buy a very playable guitar or bass that's far superior to an equivalent entry level instrument from the 70s, 80s or 90s! Apologies for the length of the comment!
Dead heat for horrible clothes.
Do you also have an Inferio-meter?
There are so many things in this world that I don't understand. Among them is the fact that, approximately an hour after this video was aired, it had 268 views, but only 52 likes. I don't get it. How can people not click the Like button after watching this? Is it too hard (like, you know, I'd have to eat a cheeseburger to make up for all the energy I'd expend clicking my mouse one time)? If they don't like it enough to click Like, why did they watch it at all? I don't know. People are scum, in general. Leaving trash all around, running stop signs and red lights, watching Fox news, and not clicking the Like button. It's hard to keep the faith!
If Taylor Swift is the top that says it all. I can't stand her lyrics nor her bland and weak vocals, almost always hating on men, like a Stevie Nicks light. I never knew it was her until the Shazam app came into my view and it told me the artist associated with those all to common bland and man hating sounds. When something like The Cure comes on it's a ray of sunshine poking through the cloud of robot exhaust polluting the waves of public sound systems.
@jimmycampbell78
11 ай бұрын
Yes she is dreadful but she is definitely an artist that is representative of the era that we currently live in. Woke, feminist and bland.
@colinburroughs9871
3 ай бұрын
She's also put her whole album up on the Billboard chart now. It's strongly indicative of a subset of folks (who's that?) having no taste, but like I say, Live, Laugh, Love..