What capture card is in your rig.. right. now.

@TAZERbrineYT

2 жыл бұрын

Some cheap capture card lmao it cost me like 1.5k rs 😂

@ItsWindHere

2 жыл бұрын

HD 60S+ but only one of my 3.0 drivers work so I gotta make compromises on what I want plug in 😅

@TheCrispyChip

2 жыл бұрын

Live Gamer Ultra

@ZillaThe5_0

2 жыл бұрын

none cant afford one

@jedenzet

2 жыл бұрын

Hd60 pro

Would still like to see Elgato do a Dual Capture external card. So you don’t need a separate cam link and game capture card.

@ElainesStory

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. That way I don't need to buy like 2 or 3 of them. The way I have it is I just keep it behind my TV and it's a pain to just keep swapping hdmi cords. If you were going to say just get the pcie capture card, I like just 1 USB cord going to my computer. There would be so much clutter with 4 thick hdmi cables. Heck even 2 cables is bad. Also put a switch on it so you can choose which output you want to capture.

@carnatron

2 жыл бұрын

@@ElainesStory I snagged a $20 HDMI splitter off Amazon and how have all my consoles plugged into the HD60S. It’s made life so much nicer, maybe give it a shot!

@MOARCookies

2 жыл бұрын

I'd appreciate their software actually working better with two of their products in the PC at the same time

@GeoffreySage

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Jared A

@dreamkatari

2 жыл бұрын

@@carnatron thats almost exactly what i did. I bought a switch tho. Not a splitter. I have XbX, Switch, PS5 all going to the switch.

Elgato needs to make an internal capture card with three HDMI ports. HDMI 1 is for your Camera, HDMI 2 is for your console, and HDMI 3 is pass through for HDMI 2. If the CamLink Pro can have 4 Inputs I don’t know why a 2 Input one pass through card doesn’t exist yet.

@AndyCormierYT

2 жыл бұрын

AVerMedia (hi I'm their community manager) released that 2 years ago - the Live Gamer DUO. PCIe, 4K60 HDR passthrough w/ 1080p60 HDR capture on input/output 1 for console, then 1080p60 capture for a camera on the 2nd input

@CarthusDojo

2 жыл бұрын

@@AndyCormierYT Oh I'm well aware, but I prefer Elgato personally. Had some weird technical hiccups with AverMedia stuff in all the times I've tried them (sorry). When I said "doesn't exist yet" I meant in terms of Elgato's product line up.

@DataSwami

2 жыл бұрын

I got the Aver Media one that does this but I got no space left in the PC as the radiator covers the last PCIE slot lol. Would love a USB one that does this though

@HydroKyl240COG

2 жыл бұрын

@@AndyCormierYT bro, kick something out that will Hulk smash the Stream Deck, please!!

@thoraxe313

2 жыл бұрын

Completely agree. And they can make a portable one as well.

08:30 would love to see a hdmi 2.1 (4k144fps) passthru capable device that's either USB or thunderbolt, don't know if it's technically possible tho.

@aestheticsvision

2 жыл бұрын

It is … even soundbars have hdmi 2.1 passthrough. So I dont get the point why capture cards still not have it yet.

@jidenshaotoko

2 жыл бұрын

The 4K60S+ is capable of capturing and encoding footage at 4K 60fps while plugged in via USB 3.0, which makes me confused about why they haven't made anything like what you suggested yet. Clearly the bandwidth of the USB 3.0 protocol isn't the limiting factor.

Been following this channel for four years. Incredible how much you’ve grown and how much everything has changed. Thanks for being my go to KZread channel 🍻

Integration of capture devices directly into monitors (HDMI/ display port in -- USB out) would be great as we'd not have to worry about passthrough specs.

@DarkerSavant

2 жыл бұрын

Then you are stuck with what you have on the monitor. That is an extra cost as well without any flexibility.

@JadeNeoma

Жыл бұрын

would never buy this. paying the extra £150 at least for a monitor which will be obselete in a few years and the whole thing will need replacing, or just buy a monitor and a capture card and be able to upgrade them each separately as you need to. Its a no brainer tbh

I wouldn't be opposed to seeing Elgato and Avermedia start dabbling into versions of their capture cards that double as HDMI matrices or switchers. They would admittedly be a niche product but they've never been afraid to make niche ones (like the Avermedia duo). For people with multiple systems, being able to switch between active inputs would be a boon (and in Elgato's case, stream deck control!) as it stands, my PS4 and my Switch both go out to a HDMI Switcher, which then goes out to a HDMI splitter (because both were cheaper than a single matrix and the switcher supports auto-switching based on input) which THEN goes out to my big TV for workouts or 'not at my desk' gaming AND to the 4K60Pro which then has a passthrough to my main monitor at my desk. Imagine having one device that could handle *all* of that for me.

You know what would be dope? A capture card that replaces my stream PC. Like think an "Nvidia Shield" type device with all its power that is just designed to capture your games, with an inbuilt OBS operating system and just pumps everything to your desired streaming platform. Having that second rig used to be such a flex but now it so cumbersome having two PC's and one only being used part of the time. That's a whole bunch of silicon that could be going to people that are waiting to build a gaming PC with all the shortages.

always love your videos tbh there is something calming and just learn curving about it tbh

Finally got to see your video as soon as it came out love your content helps out a ton!

Happy to see VRR passthrough finally but I feel like the next generation consoles have been out long enough now that we should have seen at least a PCiE HDMI 2.1 capable capture card on the market capable of at least passing through 4k120 and VRR. I can understand not having an external unit like the HD 60 X. A mid to high end PC with 8 to 12 cores and/or a decent GPU can handle higher bit rates and FPS. I'd also love to see Twitch and/or KZread get off the dated H.264 standard and move to AVI. They've talked about it since late 2018. That would give creators the option to stream higher resolution and FPS content at higher bit rates. The parts and pieces are there, just looking for the software support to combine it all.

@mechanicallydev4536

2 жыл бұрын

AV1 is used internally in KZread and Twitch. It is not common to see because we still don't have hardware encoding for AV1, and software encoding is quite hard on CPU. Intel ARC GPUs are the first ones coming with AV1 hardware encoder, and we will probably see it on AMD and Nvidia on the next gen.

@JadeNeoma

Жыл бұрын

@@mechanicallydev4536 @StopperJJ not only that but decoding AV1 content requires a codec update that not everyone has. phones that aren't running android 10 and some browsers will not be able to decode AV1 streams. I'm not sure about KZread but twitch doesn't even have the infrastructure to transcode streams all in H.264. there is no way twitch can switch to AV1 and have it transcode for all streamers. its possible that if they add AV1 to twitch they only allow it for Partner streams who they can guarantee transcoding to but itd still require a massive infrastructure change. The parts and the pieces aren't there

Place looks nice. I cant wait to see the finished form of it! Nice job

Awesome video man, cleared up a lot of confusion I had about this card ty.

Love the video! Quick question, I want to start streaming using my Xbox Series X and my 13" MacBook Pro M1 2020, so I wanted to confirm if this will work with M1. I see the specs on the website don't mention it so I wanted to be sure. Also, is it necessary to buy a cord that will connect directly to the thunderbolt port on this Mac, or will it work alright with a dongle that has USB-A on it?

I want them to be compatible with older systems (GameCube, Wii, and so on) and as low of latency as possible. The reason is that I use a capture card so that I can play on my older consoles without having to use my TV. I can record that stuff but for some weird reason I can't play on my monitor.

I would love to see capture cards being able to have multiple inputs and choose which one to use through software. As someone that use multiple consoles, it would be a nice feature to have.

@COIFISHGAMING

2 жыл бұрын

The Blackmagic Intensity Shuttle does that however it's painful to find or get working nowadays

@_reZ

2 жыл бұрын

This is great. I won't have to spend money on expensive HDMI switchers with low latency then

There are really two main categories for capture cards used by streamers. First is console streamers and the second is camera capture. There is a third, but not as prevalent anymore because two PC streaming isn't required anymore, so most PC gamers can game and stream on the same computer while the elite gamers still do for performance reasons. If the Xbox or PlayStation came with a built in USB-C video out, so you could plug directly into your computer and capture the output, then I suspect that the capture card market would overnight loose a major market share. For me I would like to see Microsoft and Sony make a "streamer" version of their consoles with built in outputs, so you can capture in real-time directly from the console to your PC at native framerates and resolutions. You could also take this the other way if the consoles had tighter integration with streaming software allowing you to stream from the console with all the benefits of a PC. This is all for the ability to lower the entry point for streaming and making it more accessible, so people gravitate to one console or the other based on features they can get.

Hey Harris, I love the look of the new studios but I have to ask: what is the black textured material on your ceiling? I have an office area that would really benefit from something like that. Thanks!

Hi Alpha Gaming - Great video, thanks for sharing! I do have a quick question which I am sure some folks in the community may have the same/similar question - Is the HD60X the only capture card which I can use to capture gameplay from my Windows Gaming PC to capture it and stream it using a Macbook Pro?

I would love to see them work with MacOS. Like you mentioned in an earlier video, I've got a powerful Mac for work and I'd really like to utilize it for recording and streaming. Currently using an external 4K60 S+ recording to SD card, then editing in Premiere on my Mac.

great videos thanks. hopefully you can help me cos i am unable to find a comparison video of the elgato hd60 x and the razer ripsaw hd .. will be used for PS5 which would you recommend? would like to be able to keep the best passthrough possible and best streaming possible. they are both a year or more old already you think there is a newer version of either coming? thanks! sp what do you think of this CC AVerMedia Live Gamer Ultra 2.1 ?

HDMI 2.1 for 4k@120hz passthrough for current gen systems. Multi input switching would be nice as well. Ideally, 2-3 console inputs that can be switched with a simultaneous video input would be perfect.

M1 ipad as a streaming device would be awesome, I would guess the hard part would be making a streaming app that supports it

Ordered one of these specifically for the compatibility with OSSC resolutions. Really looking forward to it!!

You always make good videos!

is hd60x substitute camlink 4k ?

Sooooo cracked. The grapple after the mantle was elite

Thank you for the knowledge Senpai.

Hey Harris! I wanted to ask for your opinion about something related to the Elgato HD60 S+ capture card. I purchased one about 4 months ago and have been trying to record gameplay using the 4K capture utility. However, my monitor that my PS4 Pro is connected to doesn't support HDR. Do you recommend any monitors for beginner streamers? Preferably one that can go up to 1080p or 1440p. Thank you for your videos btw! They have been extremely helpful ;)

I also hate when the box pull tabs don't work right. Rocking the HD60 S+. I may scoop this up and use the S+ for my camera. Also, I can't find it anywhere yet. Did you break an embargo?

Hi very useful information. I hope you answer my question. The HDMI source PC(where the game is) does it show in the device manager that the HDMI goes to Elgato? Or it shows the actual screen pass through it like a Dell monitor? I mean is this hardware stealthy?

I just got done buying a s plus and then this! This is one of those videos you actually want to shoot the messenger. 😃 keep up the great work my guy.

This is what I’ve been waiting for I’m building a new pc ( mine is dated ) it will be itx but the boards only have one slot for cards so I couldn’t use the 4k60pro now I can get this thanks for this vid.

I think a capture card that will have support for pretty much all devices, upscales your device/platform, and has a built in streaming/recording software (has it's own OS basically)

What I want from Capture Cards, is to be able to record and stream more things, like games off of phones and tablets (since Epocam isn't on Android) PC free recording like the Live gamer portable series (I know Elgato has the One capture card that does this, but I want it to be more affordable, 400 is Steep) The ability to either use SD cards OR Portable Hard drive to send recorded footage to. I mostly want the PC free feature, since not everyone has a computer readily available and may need to travel light to certain places. OOH Bonus one. Maybe a way for this PC free recording capture card to connect to the Wave Mic, as all previous PC free capture cards use the 3.5 3/4 pole jack, Why not upgrade that jack to a USB 3.0 Type C, and for Elgato specifically, the Wave mic.

@BBTFRG

2 жыл бұрын

You can use elgato capture cards to record and stream mobile gameplay, just have to use a splitter to filter out the HDCP protection, I'm really hoping this new card doesn't need that 🤞🤞🤞 I'm currently using a cheap Chinese video capture card that cost like £5 to stream my gameplay from my phone (android)

Maybe stuff like recording on SD cards like the 4K60 S+ in a PCI Express, along with being able to separate audio. 4:4:4 12 bit color 4k60. Probably a pipe dream but it would be nice😅

As someone who mainly rocks itx form factor - I have wanted something that is simple and works outside of my SFF case and can still be powerful enough to process frames quickly. Seems like a good solution for small form factor PC peeps.

Gaming just got gooder 🎮 Streaming too, thanks for these specs and details!

My company has been actually using Elgato Cards (Cam Link 4K and HD 60 S) plugged in to Android smartphones to do multi location streams for a couple of years now using CameraFi Live and it works flawlessly. We use this for events that occur over a large area or simultaneously from really far apart locations. One example would be to live stream Rally competitions, were cars cover huge distances in each course.

For me this one will be like 10 steps forward as i had very first one slim 60hd with not s or s+. And yes both input and output on one side masive plus.! Good vid!

I think soon enough will see capture cards fully integrated into devices instead of it being a seperate device you need to buy to be able to do that. I think for future consoles that will be mandatory.

@kaydawgy1999

Жыл бұрын

They already do. The Xbox series consoles have the ability to record gameplay footage to a USB thumb drive up to an hour

Would like to see Harris to review and take a look at the earthworks ethos and icon pro :) very good mics in my opinion, so do please make a video on them if you can

I expect to see some day that a MB manufacturer will include an HDMI/USB C capture built into the board itself

So I use my HD60S for my dual PC set up, would the VRR support that as well ? Is it like a all around thing or just for the new consoles

Daymnn that light looks good behind the plant!

Hey @Alpha Gaming What's the Elgato HD60 X resolution support like for older retro consoles via RetroTink 5X & MiSTer FPGA?

def. agree on the last part about streaming with something like that on a ipad or mobile device . Would be nice the designed a rig for that

Would you recommend this one for using it with a Nintendo Switch and a PS4? Or should I take an older one?

I actually just got the HD 60 pro yesterday! Yeah it does kinda bother me that it can't do more than 1080 60 pass through but the most I plan to stream is 1080p 60 and only streaming around a couple days a week. The lack of cable clutter is amazing

Was so close to upgrading to the hd60s+ . Can't believe you just dropped this video haha. This will work just fine for switch yeah? For 1080, 30fps

Just got this! So far it works great!

I wanna see a capture card with basically a mini pc built into it that can record, livestream, run possibly discord or any other communication and video application. I think that would be the end all. because you could just chuck it in a case with the computer somewhere or have it on your desk. And if it's good enough you should be able to either remote in or pull up a preview to stick on a second monitor on the main pc. Removing the need for an extra monitor, mouse, keyboard and headset. (or instead of that maybe a built in kvm switch idk) I am thinking like the plug and play ability of most of elgoto's stuff. That would be so cool.

Something like the cam link pro but on a stand alone device that can also record to itself and be used as an SD card reader/media input device.

HEVC recording, was what I was expecting from a brand new capture card from Elgato in 2022. I guess it's not an easy task since HEVC is missing. Looking back on GoPro or other devices it must be necessary to build a custom SOC to improve their video codec in a unique way.

Harris can you compare this to the Asus CU4K30, they seem to have a lot of similar features and similar prices or please let me know which is better I’m in the market for a capture card I can play 1080 120fps on

Do you have to have the upgraded version of OBS to have the high frame rate capture ability?

I was wondering from where did you got the Skyline foam on the sealing? Can you drop a link

looks wicked.. but does it work through obs on an imac? it KILLS me that my crappy HD60S doesnt work on obs BUT the HD60S+ plus does!!

Would love to see a capture device, stream deck, and something like GoXLR or Beacon all in one device.

Hi, I have what could be a very stupid question, but Im a noob in this matters, but, does this cards remove the workload of streaming from the pc?

Are there any Displayport splitters that support variable refresh rate? Would love to be able to duplicate my primary monitor without having to go use software or having to use the hdmi passthrough.

I bought the original HD60 6ish months or so before the S came out, so my console streaming setup is in need of a boost. Probably going to be picking this up.

I could see a capture card becoming wireless or even be embedded into every potential media device like a console like PC players do. But potentially even in smartphones. But that may take a while.

I think for the next-gen consoles they need to majorly improve the direct from console streaming. It’s just too limited. Would like to see them bring out software (like obs) for PC & Mac that allows you to do & add more customisation to your console stream.

So the two most important features about the El Gato that I care about our Elgato sound capture. Which makes sending audio from PC to PC very simple and then refresh rate. Some capture cards limit your refresh rate on a to PC set up. But unfortunately they are all super expensive still I was looking last night and they were like 250 for the cheapest one on Amazon I haven’t checked their website

Here's a question: does the HD60 X work when connected to a Thunderbolt hub? Our CamLink 4K only works when it's connected directly to the computer, which is a huge hassle.

Hey Harris! One thing I didnt hear you talk about this capture card was issues if any that came up during testing and thats if you did any testing. The one issue a lot of us ElGato capture card users end up having with one or the other capture cards (specially the external ones) is #1. A delay when viewing gameplay. While the HD60 Pro and 4KPro (internal capture cards) are advertised as "instant gameplay" there is still some delay, the HD60 and the HD60S+ have a much longer delay. And #2. Sound and video sync issues...all of ElGato capture cards gave me the same issue with the exception of the HD60 PRO4K (internal one), which was that the longer you stream, the longer a desync in audio you would get, the video will remain the same but the audio would start to fall behind, so you see gameplay but with a delay in the audio...see explosion but you hear the BOOM a second or two later. This could temporarily be fixed by refreshing the capture card mid-stream and permanently be fixed by splitting the audio and video via adapter and sending the audio to the PC or GOXLR via optic line, that way you have a video and audio feed in two separate channels with no delay which is an issue if your motherboard doesnt have a line in and or if you dont have a GOXLR. Hoping that new capture cards dont have either one of this issues and a quality of life zero delay in gameplay. Id pay more for a card that had a extra BUFF in RAM or processing power so that there is not gameplay delay or sound desync with having the option of being an internal or external peripheral. Your thoughts are welcome! Thanks in advance!

When you where talking about the irl stream, it got me thinking about Hyper rpg (twitch streams) and their mobile irl rig. Maybe connect with them about that?

So are they still going to support the devices that they aren’t selling? I have an HD60 Pro in my computer and aren’t currently looking to upgrade

I think it’s super funny that yours shows every fingerprint and smug too. What did they make the S+ from that made them always look nasty dirty?!

Likely too old a video to get a response but- I used to stream on a dual PC setup, and I really enjoyed taking the load off the gaming PC. Since taking a break and upgrading my gaming PC, I tried to restore my setup and realized my capture card will no longer work as my gaming PC is running at 2560x1440 170hz and my streaming PC is running at 1080p 60fps. Would this allow me to maintain my dual PC setup and not see any weird effects like Nvidia G-Sync disabling?

So does the 4K60 Pro M.2 have the VRR pass through or am I now forced to buy this new device?

So do you still need to use a splitter box to filter out the HDCP protection if you wanna capture mobile phone gameplay? I love the elgato stuff but I stopped using the HD60+ because you have to use a damn splitter to be able to capture and record/stream gameplay from my phone, if you can just plug it in and go without needing a splitter I'll be ordering 1 immediately, can anyone confirm? Do you still need a splitter?

I'd like to see content creation devices go further, being able to capture with out the need for an OBS or extra software. A device that is both the capture card and the broadcasting software all roll into one.

Pretty sure tuff gaming capture device does variable refresh rate as well. What I’ve been using the past 4 Months. Really good!

Lets go holy shit i've been waiting for these!

What's the delay on the card? I'm looking for a capture card where i can play from the capture card video on my pc screen while streaming so low ms is really important to me

I love the feature where it can receive 120fps and downscale to 60fps. Are there any budget cards that have this functionality or is this specific to this interface and the aver media?

Great video. Does record on usb? Greetings from Switzerland 🇨🇭

Ahhh i almost forgot to watch you vid but love you man

I’ve used the standard HD 60 for idk how long. Is it time for an upgrade?

Internal pcie capture card that is 4k 144hz pass through, 1440p 144hz capture, and has an input for camera build in

I get the utility of a capture card for consoles, but do they still really have a use on PCs anymore with software like Mirillis Action! and OBS Studio being available?

Thank you for explaining why they were outdated! I need a capture card with certain features this made it easier!

I am now using the HD60 X with dual PC (Gaming PC + Gaming Laptop) setup and I had 2 problems with the HD60 X that I did not have with the HD60 S. #1 I could not clone my 1080p 360hz display with my gaming PC even setting the card at 1080P . Even called Elgato and couldn't figure it out. Gaming PC clones 100% perfect on 1440P though! Still having an issue with it though...#2 problem I am having is I run analog game/chat audio from my stream port on Astro A40 Mixamp to the capture card to make an easy EQ setup of audio/chat mix. Realized after stream that the audio is delayed from video about 2-3 seconds. I had to run the aux cable to my gaming laptop mic port. Bummer there because it doesn't sound as good...maybe some bugs that can be fixed with an update?

I have an Xbox Series X and play at 1440p @120hz, and I’m wondering if there is any possible way for me to record gameplay without the need for a capture card? It sucks, the Twitch feature on Xbox just doesn’t work. I play Apex Legends, and it will be streaming, than all the sudden it will stop streaming after I start lagging in Apex. So it’s not reliable either. Do you think my only options is to buy the new Elgato HD60 X?

Just bought this yesterday! and having a problem with HD60x showing as black screen for Mac M1 Pro in OBS using PS5, tried to disable HDCP off and turned on the screen record in privacy & security. Not sure whats the issue.

What I would like to see is multiple input/output slots. I mean going external I think that would be really cool to see.

Would love to see a capture card that has multiple inputs for those who have multiple consoles we like to stream from. That way, we don't have to rely on a splitter to make streaming more convenient.

what i expect? i expect if i play in 120 to be able to keep that through the capturecard to my monitor at least . so this capture card does this right?

i hope in the Future, we will see a capturecard that is like a hub for the Mic, the Webcam/Camera and Gamecapture. If streaming over the phone is getting more popular i can see something for that comming as well

I want a capture card that lets me use my GPU to do post-process enhancements to console games like Upscaling and Anti Aliasing. It will never happen, but I want it.

Update: PS5 does 1440p and VRR now!

You're right about the Xbox Xonsoles. We've had variable refresh for some time.

update from 7 months ago, i got the HD60X but im noticing an audio lag delay that gets longer over time, you hear about this?

I would like them in the future to work more like a GPU, so no matter what kind you buy, you always can update it with drivers, so they dont become obsolete. With the new HD60X, make some top tier software for it, which can be updated like GPU drivers. I dont know if thats a thing or not, or the price just would be to high if they ever did that

For the last couple of years I have been using the HD60S+, and it's been a solid unit, I did have a stutter issue but I fixed it pretty quick. A couple of months ago I had to downsize my monitor, and the new monitor I purchased no matter what I did, I couldn't get a signal from my XSX... So I ended up purchasing the HD60X, which worked a treat... But I noticed that there was stuttering in my recordings. Nothing I have troubleshooted was working. I went to Reddit, but nothing. Found someone who had the stuttering issue as me, but they haven't been able to fix it either. So I reached out to Elgato (waiting for them to get back to me). This morning my husband suggested to plug the HD60S+ back in to see if it will actually work this time. Well, no idea HOW but it works (signal & no stuttering)! I spent $300 for this HD60X. I'm disappointed & have no use for it!

Do the Elgato cards allow for party chat capture like the AverMedia ones do?

Correct me if Im wrong but cant the hd60+ do hdr at 60 fps maybe its only 1080 but the new one cant cap above 30 hdr because it forces you to go 4k? Ah it matches through down scaling ok. Personally my issue with hd60s+ for dual pc is I need my 2nd pc on for my capture card to pass through where some cap cards let you have your 2nd pc off and still pass through so you only need the 2nd one on to record. I opted for the Avermedia portable 4k pass through. It might not have hdr but being able to turn your second pc off is just really nice.

If anyone knows, I use Elgato 4K60pro Mk.2 & with a dual pc streaming setup and I can't figure out how to have my corsair virtuoso xt headphones dolby atmos spatial sorround sound to be left enabled when Using my streaming PC to capture the sound through the capture card. I looked the capture card information up and it said it does not support it, fine. But maybe there's a fix or another capture card that does support it. I'm more interested in being able to hear it than to record/stream the sound over but obviously both would be best. ;/