EcoTEC 322: Lilium's First Orders, EVs Bash Oil Demand Growth, Aptera's Retirement Product

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Lilium Takes First Orders
EV Growth Stunts acceleration in petrol demand
Aptera announces retirement product

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  • @atlaspath5803
    @atlaspath5803Ай бұрын

    All depends on price, range and recharge times for market dominance - 20 % or less than ICE cars - 1000km range - 10mins for 80 % at a fast charger. People do not do there homework of running costs - already EV over a 10 year period cost so little to own when compared to ICE cars! Go do your numbers you will be shocked! I really hope that Aptera makes it because with the solar panel it will be even cheaper to use in a sunny location than a EV without solar.

  • @williamquemuel7824
    @williamquemuel7824Ай бұрын

    In the first quarter of 2024, fully-electric vehicles (BEVs) declined to 7.3% of new sales market share in the United States. Of the nearly 3.8 million light-duty vehicles sold in America, 268,909 were fully-electric, according to data from Kelley Blue Book.

  • @ryanjacques2007

    @ryanjacques2007

    Ай бұрын

    And the smmt data has BEV as double the market share of diesel.

  • @williamquemuel7824

    @williamquemuel7824

    Ай бұрын

    @@ryanjacques2007 Everyone should scrutinize sources and relevancy. In the USA, Kelly Blue Book is a known organization not an obscure source. KBB also points to the timeline the data refers to. SMMT data refers to the UK. What was the timeline for the data? How relevant is it to America which is a bigger market. The UK is a country of 67M compared to USA 330M.

  • @ryanjacques2007

    @ryanjacques2007

    Ай бұрын

    @@williamquemuel7824 smmt data was released in the last week or so, in France they're up 45% the trend generally world wide is EV sales are going up. America is a large market but I think the economics will persuade a large part of the market as they get cheaper to build with economies of scale.

  • @williamquemuel7824

    @williamquemuel7824

    Ай бұрын

    @@ryanjacques2007 Here in America, the major automakers, GM and Ford, are switching to hybrids for now and pausing on EVs. Tesla is the only other major EV maker. BYD has yet to come to America. Akio Toyoda was right that hybrids are the bridge to EVs. EVs have to overcome a chasm to appeal to the mainstream in America. Charging times have to decrease. Supply chain issues need to be ramped up to reduce insurance costs. EV mechanics need to be trained and EV repair shops need to be more prevalent. Infrastructure needs to be manned as now people are cutting up the charging stations to get to the copper. Cold weather performance in EVs need to be improved.

  • @ryanjacques2007

    @ryanjacques2007

    Ай бұрын

    @@williamquemuel7824 a bit like Nokia did with smart phones, or Kodak with digital cameras?

  • @williamquemuel7824
    @williamquemuel7824Ай бұрын

    EVs have a long way to go for mainstream consumers. Mainstream consumers are the ones who drive the most and are the majority of light duty vehicles on the road today. Right now, just a little over 1% of USA registered light duty vehicles are EVs which amounts to 3M out of the 288M on the road today. EVs have a chasm to climb over before it is mainstream. Most of the EVs are unreliable (only 4 models have above average reliability and are recommended by Consumer Reports). Autoline Network and Toyota expect sale figures to level out at 30% by 2030 in the USA. After 14 years of EV production, USA market reached 7.6% of sales at end of 2023. That is not penetration, but sales. EV adoption was a little over 1% in USA.

  • @williamquemuel7824
    @williamquemuel7824Ай бұрын

    Aptera is a lost cause. Put a fork into it. Sounds like a familiar story like Elio motors. Shortfall in production funds has always been the reason that the Elio never took off. Tesla and BYD will be the main players in the niche EV market much like Toyota is the main player in the niche hybrid market. The USA will make it hard to sell BYD EVs in its country. That leaves Tesla as the majority EV maker in the USA. Can Tesla drive up EV volume alone in the USA? EVs won’t go away. It just won’t be a huge seller compared to the overall light duty vehicle market.

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