Thanks for watching!

I appreciate all it Europe point of views in your knowledge you still got a lot to learn Steve from Annapolis Maryland keep up the good work I've been doing it for quite a few years and I just was curious and watching your show

Literally the video I needed thank you

@throttle_therapy

2 жыл бұрын

Good to hear! Glad we could help

Man, y'all make tuning these scooters look so easy. But as soon as I even much as touch my kick start assembly, everything starts breaking!😆

@throttle_therapy

2 жыл бұрын

it felt like that for a while for us! lol after you take it apart a bunch it gets easier. Just keep working on it, it will get better🤟

Great video! Thanks.

@throttle_therapy

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

I would be interested to see some discussion on an improved final drive ratio gearset. Stock 49 CD is not so great in an area that has many hills. It really kinda sucks in stock configuration!

Hi, just a little tip, if u want to get more of stock gy6, get a performance cdi, there is a lot of cheap ones that work, i had mine upgraded and it increased my top speed. Basically the performance cdi can make your gy6 rev higher. Approximately 10% higher than normal

@williamhaskellhaskell3162

Жыл бұрын

They say. They are fraud race c.d.I.. Orange or blue. Fixed timing at 30 deg b td c. Possible hard to start ?

@ashjason1793

Жыл бұрын

I added the performance parts and it made it slower

@reallawnboy5504

Жыл бұрын

@@ashjason1793thats my problem too, i put performance everything in it and now it only goes 25😭

@crusaderscastle

9 ай бұрын

​@@reallawnboy5504tune the carb

@imurderuh

8 ай бұрын

Might need a bigger jet/carb. Needs different fuel and air ratio now

17x49 gear set. The lighter 4 gram sliding weights will help keep the rpm’s up high. The longer gearing does not affect acceleration. You will have a longer range of speed for the variable transmission to work through. This will help combat the loss of top speed from using a lighter weight slider.

Also you can use a flat file or a sander and make the area the belt clutch surface meets more of a flat taper and polished , secound you can widen the area the rollers compress at the max to allow the primary to grab closer together at full throttle

I'm fixing to experiment with some Briggs & Stratton piston and rings and a bore kit myself

Very easy but you need an impact to take the variator off or a special tool to lock it.

Good vid

I use rollers rather than sliders. if you run heavier rollers to get more top speed, you can put stiffer clutch springs so you can build some more revs before the clutch grabs. that will give better take-off. Light rollers work well, but may not have enough mass to hit top speed. an NCY secondary slider pulley may help too, I installed one, works great.

@throttle_therapy

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely noticed the top speed wasn't there. We haven't messed with the clutch springs so that's something we will have to do next. We have some tuning/learning to do yet

Epic video !😅

@throttle_therapy

Жыл бұрын

thanks!

Hey guys! Greetings from Finland! I just found your channel when I was looking for 50cc scooter tuning videos. I have a couple of old Chinese scooter scraps and my goal is to build one ridable 🛵. The fun and laughter is well reflected in your videos. Keep the playful attitude and professional mechanics! 😁👍

@throttle_therapy

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! We appreciate the kind words. Glad you enjoyed the video👍

@beatster5664

2 жыл бұрын

Here is another Finnish person who is about to start China scooter build

@JadePoodle246

2 жыл бұрын

Here is another finnish person, i have aprilia sr50 future 2015, 50cc. 2 strk. Any tutorials would be appreciated if someone finds actual good ones. I'm looking for upgrades that i can do in my garage without buying much extra parts (f.e, variator). I have found ONLY ONE good electric restriction guide, but i dont think it works, havent tried it yet. Have a good day.

@jyrki2275

Жыл бұрын

@L.aE.cH. Empire always use 6rollers.they have 6 for a reason

Hi you seem smart I have a old bike , can’t get goin , just tries to start but don’t , I have took cdi off and kinda butcherd

If i remember its 1+. So 6g sliders are equal to 5g weights. Honestly, a cam, head porting, 19mm slide carb would be super interesting just for shits and giggles 😂

is there no problem if i put a different carb on my scooter than those bulky carbs

Performance CDIs are good for short burst drives, like drag racing. They are not advisable for long trips where you tend to do full-throttle for longer period of times, because Performance CDIs have no limiter, you can burn it out driving at high rpm for long period of times

Im trying to mod up my tao tao! I want to know how to put a stereo system in my tao tao and what would be the best brand as well as tires.

I put a 100 cc big bore kit a ngk carb & 125 pipe & adjusted the pins on my card up a notch & I'm getting 55 easey

I have a 100cc big bore kit race cam bigger valves performance clutch 6.5g rollers performance exhaust aftermarket carb forget jet sz racing cdi coil aftermarket cooling cover and I’m getting 55mph on flat ground close to 60 down hills and can do 30 -35 up hill depending how steep it is only other thing to do now is upgrade to a 150 and build it till then I’m happy with it

Mine doesn’t have the limited in the crankcase I have a 2022 Express 50 any help?

I for got I put the best CDI they make .put 2 12 volt heaters on it hell it works pretty good

What app do you use for recording top speed or even current speed???

Steve from Annapolis Maryland I totally agree with you keep it 50cc and get up a12 camshaft not the a9 that's a waste of money get the a12 that's not too much lift where you got to change the valve springs but it will make a big difference the camshaft CDI ignition is none of that parts are expensive you change all that and you will be good camshaft ignition check the carburetor again aftermarket pipe and you will be up to 50 mph I wish you live next door and I can help you

I can only get my tao tao 50 to do 30mph, i put a new carb air filter i even changed weights in variator and added a new belt. How can i get this thing to go 40mph?

I got a 50cc scooter I'm putting the high performance cylinder head with oversized valves go with a a9 cam you already got the ignition system Steve from Annapolis Maryland

With the 24mm D-type Carb, replace also the Cylinder Block with 57.4mm 24mm Carb + 57mm Block = Fun Scooter

for the carb which mm should I pick

Can any help which carburetor i need to buy for sym mio 50cc 2011 pleasee need help. If anyone have link do share please

I live in a place with very steep hills and looking at your videos making a 50cc scooter be better and more usable really gave me the push I needed to do something about mine. When I was younger my uncle use to send me to get the piston(?) of his 50cc to a mechanic who turn it into 3-wheels standard cut and the scooters he had took off like freaking kawasakis. Of course, that was in the Dominican Republic so not sure whether something like that could be done where I live now

If you change the carb.change the air filter and the exhaust pipe or get an expansion chamber if it's a 2 stroke.

How many miles on your Tao 50 now? Any complaints. Reviews ? 10vs 12 inch wheels do they have the same gear ratio in the gear box?

Does your moped has your remote start?

Nice

@throttle_therapy

Жыл бұрын

Very nice

The matter is 50cc or 150cc find out what the factory gram roller weight is and put three of them in there and three of the real light ones in there do a combination mix and you will get some RPM and still have top speed

Can someone tell me what to buy or do to make my 50cc go faster?

Did your scooter washer governor in it

What is best flyball

Good engine to mess with and learn how to improving performance. Been doing just that for over 10 years now and have taken a lot of what I've learned and stepped up to modifying a 150 engine. 7gm variator weights are generally what comes installed on gy6 50cc engines.

@ragadallas1982

Жыл бұрын

So should I get the DR . pulley 7gm , and I will see any difference in acceleration ?? for a tao tao 50 CC

@edwinmendija8087

Жыл бұрын

@@ragadallas1982 how many grams are your variator weights? Going lighter will increase acceleration but lose top end and vise versa. You need to experiment with variator weights that will give you the performance you personally seek.

@sandysanders5137

Жыл бұрын

Dont u jus tell me o wizard

@gerryburon2174

9 ай бұрын

Based on the stock roller weight of 7 grams - try experimenting with 7g/8g combi roller weights OR 7g/9g combi.

New to the 49s picked up an italica and noticed it bogged down very hard when full throttle at any rpm, took the top off and noticed it had one of them cone air filters. So I'm assuming the PO installed the upgraded carb. Cool but why did it bog down? Well being the mechanic the past few years I know a little something about vacuum And how it's important, as I looked over the stock airbox, it has a ton of vacuum hoses coming off of it. Well I decided to take that air filter off and hook up the airbox. It was like night and day. Instead of taking 2 miles to get to 30mph it took 200 ft. So incase anyone was having this issue.... thanks for coming to my Ted talk.

Is that a 4t or 2t machine

Get the gear up kit .. stage 6...... 7 gram weights youll see a great increase

Does this work on 150cc matador

i bought the same carburater and was wondering why it was such a pain to connect the airbox.

Juts got a Tao Tao scooter this helps so much love the videos

@throttle_therapy

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome to hear! Have fun with your new scooter🤘🤘

Just so u no this may get lost but ligter roolers if loosing top speed u should have done cluch springs

just bought one you from miami?

my 50 will easily do 70mph with the stock 49cc top end. A good carb, exhaust and the lightest rollers you can find and a taller gear set for he final drive is all you need. My 2014 Tao Tao 50 starts to Death wobble rite at between 76-78mph going down hill. It will go faster but I don't have the nuts to try it. I forget where i got my gear set but it was off of ebay. It increased the top end by atleast 12mph but it did slow down acceleration a bit especially on hills. They were listed as a Highway final drive gear set for a 139QMB. Shipped directly from China.

@bryanmiller5074

Жыл бұрын

No 50cc is hitting 70 my guy... lol

@stefanschneiker4846

Жыл бұрын

@@bryanmiller5074 maybe 70 kmh! =50mps

@cubanassasinmma1648

Жыл бұрын

My 3k mile, 4500km stock 2022 xpro maui hits 60 "40mph" and no matter the hill size it tops at 41mph, i weight 160 pounds

@speedyme200

11 ай бұрын

You probably mistaken kmh for mph on the speedometer

@andydunn7930

5 ай бұрын

All ican say is "kriedler"

Roller weights dont change top speed. They only adjust the revs the bike runs at. The idea is to have a good variator and weights that run the bike at the revs where the bike produces the most power. Once the variator is maxed out its irrelevant what weights are in it. My guess is that the new belt you put in it isnt allowing the variator to max out because its slightly wider or shorter.

Why i see they make more mods for 50cc than 150cc.. i have a 150cc id like to make mods to

My muffler fell off mid ride and now it sounds like a 2 stroke and is a little lighter lol

just asking.. are there any after market horns to replace the roadrunner bep bep..

@throttle_therapy

Жыл бұрын

I'm sure you could find some. Train horn perhaps??

I just got a wolf brand rugby 50cc scooter im looking for a carburetor but not too sure if this would fit is it worth the risk?

@throttle_therapy

2 жыл бұрын

Looks like it has a gy6 so yeah it should work. Do you know how to re jet your stock carb? If you do I'd suggest doing that instead. This is basically the exact same carburetor with a 75 jet and a pod filter. But if you arent sure how to re jet it then this isn't a bad deal for 30 bucks!

So should I run no air box or get after market one,sorry I’m stoned and don’t know much

@throttle_therapy

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣 get a cone filter. Lose the stock air box. But if you do that you should also re jet the carb for the increase in air flow.

I'm going to put a video of my gator. It can dam near hit 60

Was there a restrictor between that piece and the variator on that bike?

@sneeuwkabouter9319

Жыл бұрын

There might have been one but he took it out for sure

EFI carburator s are better for year round use they automatically adjust to different weather changes.and a good lithium battery makes the charging system work better.specially in cold weather.where lead acid batteries freeze and loose power.And can destroy other components in the charging system,like starter recoil,electric start from not getting the proper charge.

Oh no, that sucks to do that only to have to pull everything back off🤦 Hope it all worked out

@throttle_therapy

2 жыл бұрын

Not too bad! It's all a learning experience

do all chinese scootzers have the same engine and carb?? 4 stroke ofc

@throttle_therapy

Жыл бұрын

No, most of them do but there are 2 stroke options as well.

And advice on how to remove or unrestrict the cdi?

@throttle_therapy

Жыл бұрын

All we have done is buy a "performance" cdi on Amazon

I D restricted mine with every way I could find. The muffler, CDI wire, air box holes to a UNI filter, rollers, belt upgrade. 240lbs and only 42 mph 😮

@williamhaskellhaskell3162

Жыл бұрын

What exhaust mod tried?

@donrodriguez8615

10 ай бұрын

Did you take the spacer out of the variator ?

Gear Ratio of 3 or higher is good for uphill/downhill drive 13x3 = 13/39 Gear Set 14x3 = 14/42 Gear Set 15x3 = 15/45 Gear Set

I just did one of these for my 50cc, and my stock airbox had a couple lines running into the engine hose. I left the stock hose because I wasn't sure if I could leave them loose. The new carb only had one hose. Seems like a lot of stuff is tied into the stock airbox when I get down and look. Is there a schematic somewhere? I don't want to stall out anywhere.

@SteveShelby

2 жыл бұрын

Ok, so I pulled the stock airbox and dropped in the cone air filter. runs pretty well so far. The hoses - there is apparently some emissions cylinder thing that has to go. There is a hose coming from the front of the engine block which is apparently a vacuum hose, that went to the stock airbox. Do you just leave that loose? Seems like I'm at risk of particles entering the system. The water drain line on the bottom of the airbox doesn't matter so that's gone. It pulls and surges when accelerating which is slightly annoying. Same top speed (37) until I can get the variator restrictor off (waiting on impact wrench, stripped two 8's with hand tools. Just wondering about that block vacuum hose.

@throttle_therapy

2 жыл бұрын

I think the rest just hang from what I remember. You should be fine. I will double check next time in the shop to double check. If anything changes I'll let you know

@SteveShelby

2 жыл бұрын

@@throttle_therapy I put a lot of work in over the last few days! The vacuum hose seems to not really matter to the operation of the new carb once the air box and eco stuff goes away. It rests in the chassis naturally and it's pretty thick so I'll probably just leave it. If I start noticing hoses visible from the outside I'll either tie them up or pull it off completely. I never really did Small engine stuff but it's not that difficult once you tear into it. It's super interesting how replacing one piece shakes out problems with the other pieces. Open carb with new jet needs better air so once you fix the better air the exhaust is the problem. I have one of those aftermarket exhaust on order so once it gets here I should be good to go. Not too shabby for under a hundred bucks for getting a new lease on life with one of these little 50cc Chinese scooters!

@throttle_therapy

2 жыл бұрын

@@SteveShelby you got it🤘 nice work dude that's cool to hear you are enjoying the experience.

@SteveShelby

2 жыл бұрын

@@throttle_therapy I really enjoy your videos so many people have crazy long intros and they don't cut the Dead space and dialogue and don't speed up the videos on mundane stuff you seem to actually know how to do the work and the production which is super important for people sticking around! Got another side question I forgot about. I stripped out two 8 mil ratchets trying to get my gearbox cover off. Got a cheap wrench set and this cheap ass metal is starting to strip on the bolt. I have an impact wrench on order and my fear is I'm going to actually strip the flanges off these gearbox bolts. An adjustable wrench is too big to get in there. I've done WD-40 a couple times done a few taps I don't want to strip these things trying to get them out but I have not been able to pull the restrictor of my variator yet and it's really bugging me do you have any tips for pulling out these cheap aluminum 8 mil bolts?

Where do I find other rims for my scooter?

@throttle_therapy

2 жыл бұрын

Internet

Change the gears in the gearbox a stock is a 52 tooth gear the middle one put in a 41 tooth then you’ll be able to do wheelies

@sleepingmoon6649

Жыл бұрын

Lmao, more infooo

@Joshstackxs

Жыл бұрын

Howww

If you had to choose just one Mod, which Mod would be most efficient in making the bike faster overall?

@throttle_therapy

2 жыл бұрын

1. Big bore kit. 2. Bigger jets and intake 3. Lose a ton of weight lol

@tooakki

2 жыл бұрын

@@throttle_therapy ...wow ok, I thought for certain you'd say Aftermarket Exhaust, but I know absolutely nothing about Bike Modifications. Thanks

@throttle_therapy

2 жыл бұрын

@@tooakki that would help too. Anything to get more air and fuel in and more air out.

Are the geared 50cc scooters faster than the 50cc automatic scooters?

@leooo7040

7 ай бұрын

No

@throttle_therapy

7 ай бұрын

No, in theory, they should be. The 50cc just doesn't have the power to make it worth it. Playing with the variator, roller weights, and clutch springs is the best bang for your buck.

Placing airfilter close to rear wheel is a very bad idea

Did your scooter have a governor washer in it

@throttle_therapy

2 жыл бұрын

I dont remember there being one in this scooter when we purchased it. It may have been taken out by the previous owner

Best thing to do is get 82bbk with big head

If i get an hour or two i could easily make it go 70-75km/h And give me a Yazuni R exhaust or Gianelli Go exhaust it can go 80-85

Would you say the tao tao is reliable with mods?

@throttle_therapy

9 ай бұрын

Yeah actually! It is still running strong. With the mods comes tuning. That is where things can be tricky.

@bradleycole2655

9 ай бұрын

@@throttle_therapy thanks bro

Will you have a bot from the police

My mods recipe, just sharing. 24mm D-type Carb 57.4mm Cylinder Block 15x37 Final Gear Set 13.5 Degrees angle Variator 11 grams Roller Weights Lighten Clutch Bell TTGR Clutch & Torque Drive 1k RPM Center Spring 1k RPM Clutch Spring 23/28 Big Valves Head 6.5 Lift A9 Camshaft 2.8 5-Turns Valve Springs

5,5 gr

If u want to go fast just get a 2stroke

@throttle_therapy

4 ай бұрын

Agreed.

Yes I new were not going to like them iv been working on scooters for 33 years I had a old 78 scooter it would get 75 but you almost had to push it to take off

So heaver weights be better you say?

@RealWorld125

Жыл бұрын

Heavy weights = higher top speed but slower acceleration Light weights = lower top speed but better acceleration

@speedyme200

11 ай бұрын

​@@RealWorld125need a balance of both.. if Peak power is at 7000 rpms you need weights to hold it there

@RealWorld125

11 ай бұрын

@@speedyme200 yeah exact;y what i said then yh 🤣🤣

Make one mod at a time or you don't know which one worked or didn't work.

More noise? How is that an upgrade 😂😂😂

You could buy the main Jets variety of main Jets and idle Jets and change them in a couple minutes and use the same carburetor that's ridiculous to go out and not unless you bought a bigger millimeter carburetor is probably what you did it's ridiculous to buy another carburetor this changed a little Jets takes a couple minutes

@throttle_therapy

2 жыл бұрын

The original carb was junk thats why we bought this one. It just had a different jet than the stock.

you weight 200 lbs. 4 gr weights are the way to go.

Transplant a 150cc gy6

just unplug your restrictor wire

Try 24mm D-type Carb. The fuel mixture is constant, the throttle action will only increase or decrease the air mixture.

Hey I still haven't heard from you like I said if you get back to me here I will not hear it get back to me direct please I left you my number I'm not trying to make fun of you or put you down but why don't you get a phone holder that will go on the bike they have them that will charge as well as hold the phone

You never said what

Bruh u gonna blow that engine up if u put that shitty ass pod filter with the called performance exhaust ur engine runing lean and the weights don't do shit if u don't mess around with the springs in the back and why would u buy the same carb bro you could have bought some jets and be done

Mindlessly assuming the public needs higher revs and higher wear. Not everybody gravitates toward an urban toy. The new air filter is pure sabotage.

Change=make worse

HAAAAAAA Clown show .... he slowed down his fast scooter !! Dafuq.... get out a here.

First mistake you bought parts off Amazon. Go to the local scooter store and buy a 30 mm carb

@throttle_therapy

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately the local scooter store doesn't exist where I live

@Sncedayone

Жыл бұрын

@@throttle_therapy oh I understand😉

@speedyme200

11 ай бұрын

That's way too big even the stock intake valve is not that big.. Plus you never get that carburetor in tune

@Sncedayone

11 ай бұрын

On a 50 cc scooter they should always be around 30 at least in Florida that is