Any suggestions for a new exhaust set up??

@nenadbuggy2788

Жыл бұрын

Fake akrapovic da best one for performance

@bscovronski

Жыл бұрын

Also get the mini bike nitrous kit 👌 it's nice

@jeffmee763

Жыл бұрын

Update running a 90 jet and a 35 slow running jet on the 20mm carb as a 32.5 one. 1500 con spring and 1000rpm small springs work for me 5.5 rollers.

@opangopop6813

10 ай бұрын

It needs porting polish in the cylinder head area and my suggestion is to use a Keihin PE/PWK type carburetor size 24 guys. I feel that on the Honda Beat 108cc carburetor can easily reach 120km/h

I just installed the glixal 52mm 90cc big bore with a naraku big valve head on my taotao thunder. It buried the speedometer to 45mph in just a few seconds and even held that speed up a hill. Stock carb with a 91 main jet and stock cvt. The power is insane and it hasn't even been tuned yet. If you want more power go for the 90cc. You won't regret it. Good luck guys I'm looking forward to more content.

@throttle_therapy

Жыл бұрын

That sounds awesome! Thank you🤘 should be another summer filled with scooter vids

@grazz7865

Жыл бұрын

I did the 80cc. Definitely a huge improvement. It’s still not going to break any land speed records but I can get to 40 within seconds now. Before it took 1/4 mile and a struggle to get to 43mph. I’m quite satisfied with the upgrade. Only thing I need to do is a valve adjustment. Too much tapping noise.

@user-sn3zj4vy8g

3 ай бұрын

90cc will eventually break the engine, 80cc is the safe way to go you can enjoy it for a long time if maintained correctly upto 30k miles maybe even more depending on how you ride.

Guess ill have to do mine.. ive already put a Racing clutch, New rear drive gear, New ECM with rev limiter disabled and a Coil pack from a 150cc.. And i can get about 45mpg on flat ground, And 55+ with the wind at my back.. And im still 49cc.. Might have to use more synthetic oils if i put the 80cc kit on.. But i think you inspired me to do it and record it..

that old setup wasnt stock looks good man i love your videos im building my gy6 too

oh this is great timing. i just changed my carb this afternoon and i was considering a bbk as well. you guys are an inspiration (i'm not sure my better half would see that as a good thing, but i love it)

@throttle_therapy

Жыл бұрын

At least parts are cheap! Lol it's all for fuel saving science right?

@fthrgasp

Жыл бұрын

@@throttle_therapy LOL yes! has nothing to do with tinkering and making it go faster. it's all about the fuel savings. that's totally it 🤣

@hybridorbital85

Жыл бұрын

Man, my wife said the same thing about messing around with these cheap mopeds. I told her you know what? I like it.

@fthrgasp

Жыл бұрын

@@hybridorbital85 that's kind of what i said lol. i'm not sure it worked though.

Thats literally my favourite channel

Want more top end change the rear end gear ratio comes 13/1stock! i put in a 10/1 gear my top end is 50mph i weight 230lbs. plus i did the big bore kit and carb and cam!

Dude, I got a 2008 yamaha JOG R 50cc. Only thing done to it was removing the spacer off of the variator. It does 49 mph

I know this video is a bit old already, but a BBK wont always raise your top speed. You might get a few but the increase is negligible. The increase in power is due to the increase in torque so it’ll get you to the powerband or to top speed a lot faster.

I stopped using exhaust studs. On the qmb hex heads with M6x1.0x20mm in length with blue loctite does just fine

@throttle_therapy

Жыл бұрын

Great idea!

Put a motorcycle carburetor and motorcycle coil and put highest recommended tire pressure and you can add 5 mph. I have done a few upgrades.

in 1998 I got a brand new yamaha Aerox 50 2 stroke, changed the rollers and removed restrictors from exhaust, otherwise stock = 55mph, felt epic, I was 16.

@throttle_therapy

Жыл бұрын

Heck yeah! Do you have one now?

@alistairrobinson3865

Жыл бұрын

@@throttle_therapy no have a Honda 110 wave semi auto, great bike! in the 00s had Gilera runner 180 2stroke, the king! lol

@grazz7865

Жыл бұрын

The 2 strokes had plenty of power. I had a Yamaha ca50 (1986). Easily did 40mph. Unfortunately back then I knew nothing about engines and I never added oil. Funny thing though-looking back, I never remember the oil light on. The bike had a separate oil container and it automatically mixed the oil and fuel. Obviously, that’s what did it in.

Love this channel would u do a topspeed run with it straight piped

That's awesome bro! Gonna need a lot of tuning though

@throttle_therapy

Жыл бұрын

Yeah! It has a long way to go lol but that just means more content!

So I clicked on your video and when you lined up the new piston to old. They look almost the same size lol. But fun video

I actually did a big bore kit today aswell! The timing!

@throttle_therapy

Жыл бұрын

Heck yeah. How's it running for you??

@theoneandonly1983

Жыл бұрын

@@throttle_therapy its running good, i got the original 12mm carb on currently jetted to 90. Feels alot faster with more torque, but swallows gas faster than i can drink water hahaha. Ive got a 21mm carb on the way.

@throttle_therapy

Жыл бұрын

@@theoneandonly1983 haha! Awesome. That new carb is gonna be a game changer

Bikes running rich. The deep sound gives it away. Go down a size in jets for more power

you need to use either all sliders or all rollers the sliders activate if you will faster than rollers

Get an aftermarket exhaust something that has a larger opening to get it to rev higher

Best variator weights for 250 pound dude. Got a 50cc agility with a "100" cc big bore kit coming

Been watching for while now. Picked up what I thought was a stock Chinese 50cc scooter. Exhaust was messed when I bought it for good price. Was loud and ran good. Then it went up to 9000 rpm and did 60klm quite easy. Belt frade up and shut me down. Replaced it with new 729mm kevlar belt and cleaned everything in case up. No scale so roller weights unknown. With new belt it had same speed but now it only hit 6500 when full throttle and doing 66klm. Top speed down hill has been 73. Have scale and have replaced clutch with performance one that had red springs. Not as fast anymore. Put stock springs from old clutch in and weight rollers. They were 5.6g each. Here is my concern. What size piston in it. Has a bbk been put on. Anyway to tell without removing valves and head to measure piston. Carb comes off this weekend to get cleaned and rebuilt. Dont want to buy new 80 or 100cc bbk if it has one in already. The rollers are not stock weight so that got me thinkn

@matthewcollins6316

Жыл бұрын

I put a 72cc big bore kit performance exhaust and belt upgrade and changed main jet can do about 75-80km on a flat road so long as there aint too much head wind. I doubt your bike has a big bore kit as you'd be doing well over 80kms. Im about to put a 100cc big bore kit in soon and upgrade clutch springs and change rollers. Hoping this will get me to to around 90kms/hr or a little more. Prior to installing the bbk I could only get around 60-65km on a 50cc. Id recommend just going for the 100 cc kit straight up as youll probably find with the 80cc kit wont be fast enough. A little bit more work on the install but will be worth while. Im a pretty heave guy too weigh around 110kg

BBK can be done in an hour no problem but taking your time and being thorough is well worth an extra hour if your not doing this on a daily basis.

@grazz7865

Жыл бұрын

And being the perfectionist I am, there’s no way this is getting done in an hour 😂😂

do i need to change my crankshaft and rod to put a big bore on my gilera runner 50cc?

What's really fun is standing on the floorboard down hill and leaning and turning no hands

@throttle_therapy

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like fun and road rash lol

Just put a 49mm kit in mine. Waiting for tools to finish up.

Did your Tao Tao test scooter have a stock bore and stroke from the factory ? It was assumed so on all your hop ups and speeds?

Bro you should done 1.valve pocket 2.Porting the 3.big valve

you can 3D print a gasket using TPU filament

@throttle_therapy where so you source your parts or does everyone just get rolling wrench Denver parts

Hey what did u torque your head bolts at

I have the same oneal helmet. Nice!

@throttle_therapy

Жыл бұрын

🤘🤘

The big bore kit from rolling wrench is 90cc the same cc u bought off Amazon for $80 and it has the same results

So what was you saying about jett in the carb for this big bore kit I didn’t see it I didn’t hear it didn’t do me no good moving on

Get the wider belt it will help tremendously

@throttle_therapy

Жыл бұрын

We will look into that!

Do you still use the same performance carb you have linked with this big bore setup?

Hey that's where I got my 90cc Big Bore Kit from I got it from Rolling wrench and it's a true 90cc is not 100 but it works so good on my bike I definitely check it out on my video if you want to see see it it's actually really cool

If you didnt change anything in the carburator, it might be running way too rich. Generally when you increase the amount of CC's, you should tighten the carburator jet. Depending on your climate you might want to install a 72-76.

@joseph.seaker9082

Жыл бұрын

I think you might be mistaken friend I think that you mean it'd be running too lean it'd be running perfect if it was the stock size bore if you're increasing the size of the bore and keeping the carburetor the same it would be leaning out the mixture rather than enriching it

@leerdoor

Жыл бұрын

@@joseph.seaker9082 Thats what i thought at first too. But mine was running waaaay to rich after the mod. I Googled around and it turned out that a greater CC will also incease the vacuum and that influences the feul ratio sucked in through the jet.

@williamhaskellhaskell3162

Жыл бұрын

Wouldn't the larger bore require a larger jet. Also with the larger carb?

about to install mine this weekend, doing 40-42 mph right now on straight and level, hoping for a big boost with those extra 30 ccs

@wh3747

Жыл бұрын

How did it go?

@KBMStank

Жыл бұрын

@@wh3747 I’ll let you know, I gotta 50cc and I installed a performance exhaust and performance racing spark plug wire and cdi, my top speed is 40-45mph, I’m about to put a 100cc big bore kit on tomorrow

@grazz7865

Жыл бұрын

I did an 80cc kit and let me tell you-huge difference. My bike was like yours with the 50cc. 42-43 mph but a good 1/4 mile and a struggle to get there. Now I’m at 40 within seconds (maybe half a block)

How many grams of flyball good for this type of motor

I plan to get an air fuel ratio to tune mine when I get the bbk

@throttle_therapy

Жыл бұрын

Good idea! Would be sick to get a wideband on the scoot. More gauges more coolness lol

@hybridorbital85

Жыл бұрын

@@throttle_therapy definitely, and you'll be able to dial it in perfectly. I hear people lose a ton of mpg after they go bbk. That's wild since there are carburated 110cc bikes getting over 100mpg. I want to maintain the awesome fuel economy.

@throttle_therapy

Жыл бұрын

@@hybridorbital85 that's a great point! I am going to keep an eye out for a decent kit. That would be an interesting video to make

@hybridorbital85

Жыл бұрын

@@throttle_therapy absolutely! The guy from the 49ccscoot forum used one in a video but he didn't go over how to set it up or much about how to use it. Still informative.

You already had a stock 65cc engine. Im a moped mechanic here in the Netherlands and the size of the stock gy6 piston here is 39mm. Of course the Laws here are diffrent, as we can only drive 25km/u (15.5 mph) without a helmet and 45km/u (28mph) with a helmet. I dont know How the laws are in your state. But i think you can drive faster there ;)

@throttle_therapy

Жыл бұрын

Oh thats awesome!! We can go way faster here! How strict are they if you break the rules there??

@StefGaming

Жыл бұрын

@@throttle_therapy they are very strict here, we have what we call a ‘rollerbank’ its a meter the police uses to test the speed. If the bike goes to fast you will get a ‘wachten op keuren’ or a WOK, that means you have to bring the bike to stock and have to do an insurance test. Otherwise, you are forbidden to drive the bike and it will get seized if they catch u

@mikeavery6700

Жыл бұрын

In the state of Maine they simply need to remain stock. No registration or title required,just need a drivers license. Law is very lenient here. 6,000 miles this year and one police interaction.

@whatta7793

Жыл бұрын

Depends on the state here. I'm in Virginia and we are legally restricted to 50cc and 35 mph top speed without a license/registration/ insurance.

@denniswoods5835

Жыл бұрын

I'm boring mine out from 50 to 100cc. Should 8 buy a new carb too????

im thinking of doing a bbk. and getting different variator weights. im looking for more top speed but still wanna do decent on hills. im thinking of doing maybe a gram more then stock? maybe like 6.5-7g weights. let me know what you think and great vids!! realized you answered my first question in a diff video and didn’t even see it. thank anyway!

@throttle_therapy

Жыл бұрын

If you do the bbk you will need a bigger carb anyway. In the scheme of things it's pretty cheap to do the whole kit. You will save money in the long run doing the kit right away instead of trying to get the same results without it. The bbk is definitely a must for uphill speed. Thanks! We appreciate that🤘

@taylorreyes-vera3426

Жыл бұрын

@@throttle_therapyOh okay. im new to workinf on stuff like this and i though i wouldn’t need a new carb. if i were to do a 100cc bbk would i need something like a 20mm carb? or bigger. thanks again for the answer!

@throttle_therapy

Жыл бұрын

Taylor Reyes-Vera yep, we did a 20mm carb with ours but you could probably go a bit bigger. We were going to look into running a carb off of a 150cc on ours.

@taylorreyes-vera3426

Жыл бұрын

@@throttle_therapy okay great thanks! and what about the exhaust and variator weights after the bbk ? any thoughts on what i should do with those ?

@throttle_therapy

Жыл бұрын

Taylor Reyes-Vera that stuff you might need to test a bit. We haven't dialed in our varitor weights yet. And I'd look on Amazon for an exhaust. We did a video on our exhaust set up. Its a bit loud and needed some modifications but it works. Hopefully that helps

Was it fast enough. At 40. Minn. Flats?

How about the UP GEAR The right gear might get you 15 MPH more??

Old one was 43mm?? That's not stock. It should be 39mm. Hence the qmb139. 43mm is the 70cc piston. You should have recorded the weights of both before reassembly, curios what the difference was

@throttle_therapy

Жыл бұрын

Interesting... wonder if the old man we bough it from put that in? Pretty sure he was the original owner.

@jeffmee763

Жыл бұрын

@@throttle_therapy I know in the UK there is sum with the 60cc engine but sold as 49cc

Official Outlaw riders.

You oughta do a video of you putting a 150cc engine into a 50cc moped. Just a suggestion for you

@throttle_therapy

Жыл бұрын

In the spring!! We will do this🤘

Put a windshield on it, I picked up 1-2mph just from less wind resistance

@mikeavery6700

Жыл бұрын

I agree. My stock 50 with performance variator and belt goes 46 mph with a 15”windshield. Going in the basement for the winter and getting a bbk for sure

I remember when you said you would not do a big bore kit because you wanted to push the 50cc

Got a xpro 50 with 12" wheels and it does 40mph out of box sitting straight (accordikg to gps) im 175lbs. I'm not sure if it's just because of the bigger wheels or what. Seems most of these china scooters dont hit 40mph without some bassic mofs.

So I’m installing the same 100cc cheap kit, I have a performance air filter and exhaust, what jet sizes should I use?

@tscrewsjr1986

6 ай бұрын

What size jet did you use

Mine does 45 on flat with no bbk .the only thing I did was put 4 gram roller weights it's revs at about 8k rpm and I'm not stopping there

@grazz7865

Жыл бұрын

Mine did the same just took forever to get there. Now I get to 40 within seconds

@isaacwcash6394

Жыл бұрын

@@grazz7865 with the bbk?

@grazz7865

Жыл бұрын

@@isaacwcash6394 with the bbk. Gets to top speed MUCH quicker but not really much more top speed than before. But I can keep up with traffic now.

@isaacwcash6394

Жыл бұрын

@@grazz7865 I bought one comes in monday am excited ! also got some rollers with it too

@grazz7865

Жыл бұрын

@@isaacwcash6394 nice 👍. Take your time. Go over each step carefully to make sure you didn’t Miss anything. Some steps are a little tricky. But at the end of the day-well worth it! Let me know how it goes! Good luck!

" Good on you little guy " 😅

How much bigger can u go?

My stock 50 runs at 50mph so it seems mine should go pretty wuick

What kinda breather set up is that? I wanna find something like that to run on my 86 helix and get rid of the big ugly plastic box

@throttle_therapy

Жыл бұрын

Its the Nibbi intake tube from Amazon and a UNI pod filter. Works pretty good👍

I got a super ninja zxr6 50cc…how do I make them faster?..

I picked up about 5-7 mph by adding a windshield, 1/2 hour project 😅

@throttle_therapy

2 ай бұрын

Actually?

So how are those tao scooters? I used to have a tao quad and it was the cheapest pos that only lasted for a week. I want to make a quick little scooter on the cheap and would love a Honda or a Yamaha but everyone for some reason wants scooters these days. Are these worth it or no?

@throttle_therapy

8 ай бұрын

They are fun for cheap! Easy to work on and from what I can tell they are reliable. Or save up and pay more for the Honda or Yamaha.

You should have port and polished it before installing and you would have had a chance at 50mph

Is this bore kit compatible with Honda metropolitan?

you have to break it in first or just go on a big downhill for a fast break in 🤪

Do I order the 64 valve or 69 valve cc kit ?

Hey i just put a 100cc bbk on my bike and have an upgraded carb and air filter on it and i was wondering what i could do to make it as fast as possible. i have 6g var. weights. what do you think i could do to make it faster? I have yellow clutch and contra springs that came w the bbk and was thinking of putting them in. what else do you think i could do? Thank you!

How has this kit held up over time? I have a 50cc I’m nickel and dimming parts with trying to squeeze a mph or two more as I go. I think this is the next step, maybe after a better muffler. Got the carb and cone filter, cvt you suggested, new cdi/plug, crankcase breather hose, got a new clutch coming this week.

@throttle_therapy

Жыл бұрын

It's held up well! Haven't had any issues yet luckily. If you have the budget, the big bore kit from Rolling Wrench is pretty cool! I want to get that next

@dkhallal

Жыл бұрын

@@throttle_therapy yeah, I was wondering about that myself, might be worth the extra few bucks. I like the idea of the bigger valves. Thanks for your videos man I love learning from others who are learning.

What main jet did you end up using?

@jeffmee763

Жыл бұрын

Try a 92 main .

Pick up a 44mm crankshaft and add that to your bbk

Anyone know if I can do this on a 2023 tnt Roma

44 mph with all that tuning ? Feel like it should be way faster. maybe add a few teeth to the gearing since it looks like it has a lot of tourqe and add some different weights to you variator

I think the scooter had a kit on there alredy bcaus the original piston should be 39mm for the gy6 scooter

@throttle_therapy

5 ай бұрын

Totally possible! I did buy it from an old man tho… not sure he would have installed something like that but maybe he got it from someone who did

Finally

Unless you change the gears . Your just accelerating faster. Same top speed.

anybody know what the model is of that scooter hes using is, I've got one just like it and ive been wondering

@throttle_therapy

4 ай бұрын

It’s a TaoTao Magic 50cc

@logandriggers1709

4 ай бұрын

Yeah that’s what I’ve heard, have you been able to find parts anywhere for that thing, it seems to be non existent on the internet

Can you engine swap a 150cc into a 49cc scooter?

@mikeavery6700

Жыл бұрын

The 50cc is the short case. All others are long so extreme mods to do this

Does this work on all scooters?

@throttle_therapy

Жыл бұрын

no, its just for 50cc gy6 engines.

Put now 6 rollers of 6.5grams trust me and white big spring and 3white little springs on the cluch trust me bro

@throttle_therapy

Жыл бұрын

Okay good to know👍we can try that. what rpm are the white springs??

@nenadbuggy2788

Жыл бұрын

@@throttle_therapy they 1500+ rpm. They gonna be quick on start and top speed are the rollers the more grams the more top speed

@nenadbuggy2788

Жыл бұрын

@@throttle_therapy for 50cc/80cc best are 6 grams 6.5grams and 7grams max

@nenadbuggy2788

Жыл бұрын

@@throttle_therapy and dont put more cc on that crankshaft this is totaly fine with this 47mm piston

@isaacwcash6394

Жыл бұрын

@@nenadbuggy2788 link for the springs and rollers?

After about 700 miles it'll get faster and run better

@throttle_therapy

Жыл бұрын

It's already starting to feel better every day!

i did it in like max 4 hours

@throttle_therapy

Жыл бұрын

That's pretty good! How do you like it compared to stock?

Wait a second. You pulled out a 43 mm piston stock? It didn't have a 39 mm?

@throttle_therapy

11 ай бұрын

Yeah! Somewhere in the comments, someone mentioned that we had a BBK already? Or a different version of a GY6? I can't remember for sure. Either way, It was bigger for some reason.

@theejoeylee

11 ай бұрын

@@throttle_therapy yeah I just pulled the cylinder head off of my 2005 SunL and it also had a 43mm piston, but I got it used

Swap over to 150 intake and carb way bigger difference

@grazz7865

Жыл бұрын

Totally different job. The 50 mounts on top. The 150 mounts on the bottom. Definitely not an R&R job.

@Saucethe1

7 ай бұрын

Huh?

@Saucethe1

7 ай бұрын

@@grazz7865I am not talking about motor mounts

IHi What jet size are you using now mine is running 92.

@throttle_therapy

Жыл бұрын

I think I put a 90 in there

Yeah check mine out I went almost 50 the last last video I did I did a lot of upgrades but check out mine if you want to get your bike like that

Your scooter was a 60cc 50cc ones had 39mm piston the 60cc had a 43mm they sold it as a 50cc.

There are more of these engines than any other in the world. You can go just so fast. Once you keep pushing the foundation of the bike it is going to fracture. Nothing much you can do about it, Mikuni carb!

Whats your purpose of having a scooter? Just for shits and giggles, trynna see how fast you can get it to go? personally i'm rocking enduro tires on my scooter and using it as a cheaper alternative to a dirtbike, and its registered so i can ride it on the road!

To think it be cheaper just to buy a 150 scooter with all the upgrades on a 50 cc you sell the 50 for like 1200 and the money you spent on the upgrades you could just buy a 150 lol

Thtas kind of slow, i had one doing 55mph on a stock muffler

Stock 50cc gilera runner derestricted is a rocket compared to this scooter.😂

first :)

@throttle_therapy

Жыл бұрын

🤘🤘

how are these Chinese scooters so trash in America my Chinese scooter goes 45+mph stock and it isn't even the most expensive Chinese scooter it was 1250$

That's a useless and weak kit if you ask me.