Not very related to the topic but I think that Moash is blinded as a result of him being the deadeye equvelant of Odium (severed bond)
@MeMySkirtandI
11 күн бұрын
That is an excellent theory. Do you think bond could be restored?
@parkermm
10 күн бұрын
Ooh. I’ve never thought of him that way, but I do really like that theory.
@Wheelz_44
3 күн бұрын
😧😧 never thought of that. What a good theory.
@nikolaipawell300011 күн бұрын
nice to see my Renarin theory got a mention. here is a Adolin theory for you: he will become a winddancer (edgerunner?) by bonding 2 spren, Maya and Notum.
@MeMySkirtandI
10 күн бұрын
He's definately got some sort of bond already with Maya, he gave her the strength to speak for herself at the trial. Whether that will manifest radiant powers, or I hope, just making him slightly harder to kill, who can say? As for Notum, who can say?
@juanperret7044
10 күн бұрын
Edgerunner is hilarious. Bro gonna be a cyberpunk
@juanperret704410 күн бұрын
I like the child champiom theory because of the themes but i do struggle to see how we actually make our way there in a way that feels like it makes sense and isnt forced.
@MeMySkirtandI
10 күн бұрын
That is a struggle. Also Todium would be banking that Dalinar, who went through the experience of having his grandnephew kill him would have to serve the shard who put the child in that position. That doesn’t sound like a foundation for a relationship on which to save the Cosmere.
@juanperret7044
10 күн бұрын
Honestly really liked your reasoning for Gavinor being the champion. I think that Taravangian doesn't mind the result of the battle never ending because if neither die then the fight isn't over therefore the deal doesn't go through so Taravodium can keep the war going without issue
@MeMySkirtandI
10 күн бұрын
@@juanperret7044 I'm frightened by how convincing that argument worked. I baked muffins after making that argument. (I bake when I'm nervous)
@juanperret70449 күн бұрын
Just read Rhythm of War chapter 54 and honestly that Renarin theory is looking reaaaaaaal likely. I can definitely see his lack of self worth being something that convinces him that Dalinar would kill his own son to save the world. Honestly the whole of chapter 54 which does discuss a contest of champions seeme like big set up for this. Liking that theory a LOT
@MeMySkirtandI
9 күн бұрын
Renarin's habit of undervaluing himself and his insight is probably the biggest liability team Honor has right now.
@christophergillette716710 күн бұрын
I cannot adequately express how satisfying it is that you consistently call him “F-face”
@MeMySkirtandI
10 күн бұрын
Glad to be of service!
@hwdixon310 күн бұрын
Where do you place the Contest happening within the book? For me, I envision the Contest happening at the end of part 3. It will be the "Fall of Kholinar" moment in the book. This is because I expect Dalinar to lose and fulfill the promise to the audience that we have a new and more dangerous Odium. Brandon won't end the book with a complete hero loss however, that's not his style so the epic conclusion is Kaladin and others saving the day unexpectedly in part 5.
@MeMySkirtandI
10 күн бұрын
Pretty close to that. I figure we'll get the champion reveal at the end of part 3. Basically I see: Part 1 Kal & Szeth's excellent adventure, Part 2 getting Herald sanity to manageable levels, Part 3 Dalinar does Rocky ending with the duel starting Part 4 Dalinar fights and loses the duel. Part 5: Stormfather dies, Ride of the Willshapers, Ba-ado-Mishram is freed and either that fixes stuff or Kaladin becomes a herald/stormfather/both and that fixes stuff. Warcamps are saved the war is over, but their main bridge-builder just switched sides. Oops.
@jahkl197410 күн бұрын
Hey can you make a video about who we might see take the main stage for the next set of books? Character POV's. (ex. Gavinor, Oridon, Shallan's possible child)
@MeMySkirtandI
10 күн бұрын
Oh gosh, I’m kinda scared to guess about the back 5, without knowing who survived the front 5
@bradleycrossen79879 күн бұрын
Szeth is metaphorically the "child" champion. He is mentioned as looking like a child twice in TWOK (chapters I-3 and I-6) and has already been manipulated by Taravangian more than once. So why can't he be manipulated again to be Odium's Champion? If you think about Szeth as the child and as the "weeper" in the deathrattles then they completely make sense. Dalinar & co. refuse to kill Szeth as Odium's champion so it is considered a tie with Dalinar breaking his oath, then the Stormfather is deadeyed causing the storm of all storms that gives off no Stormlight: the Night of Sorrows. Plus this is Szeth's book, it makes sense for him to be a part of the final payoff. “What I am owed,” the assassin shouted, rainwater spraying from his face and Stormlight rising from his lips, “will come to me eventually! Every bit of it. I will drown in it, stonewalker!” - Chapter 85 RoW
@MeMySkirtandI
9 күн бұрын
I considered Szeth as a possible champion. As you say it is his book. While the Alethi do view him as a child, I still have him as a potential champion for Honor. But yeah, despite his intention of being Honorable he’s currently worse at it than Gavinor.
@IamHattman5 күн бұрын
Im still firmly in the camp that Renarin should be Dalinar's champion. Odium cant see him in the future and he has the ability to see the future himself. He's also able to just die and then come back via Progression/Regrowth. We've seen him be fully crushed previously and bounce back almost instantly. He could literally die, ending the duel, and then come back. He still 'died' satisfying the rules, and Dalinar wouldnt be dead. The terms of that agreement are that Dalinar become a fused when he dies if they lose. If they happen to lose and Dalinar isnt dead then it pushed back becoming a fused and serving Odium untill later on. All that could also serve as part 1 to 2 of the book and give us time to get more story in without having to e constrained by the 10 day time limit.
@MeMySkirtandI
4 күн бұрын
That is a pretty good idea for Renarin. Though I don't think Odium is going to wait to collect Dalinar's soul until he dies a natural death.
@IamHattman
4 күн бұрын
@@MeMySkirtandI Provided my last read through of RoW about 3 weeks ago is accurate, and that Sanderson plays to the exact wording the two used, I don't think he'll have a choice. As long as I'm remembering correctly the wording of the agreement is that when Dalinar dies his soul becomes Odium's. The contest doesn't specify that Dalinar's life is forfeit if his champion dies. They both just assumed that Dalinar would be his own champion and that the contest would be to the death, therefore Dalinar loosing in the contract is the same as the contract saying he has to die. But it never stipulates it. It would be a fantastic moment for Renarin, who we've been told is clever the whole series, to notice that loophole and then convince his father to let him stand in. I can also see Todium missing it. Renarin can't be seen with Odium's future sight, and Taravangian was relying on his predictions even before becoming Odium. To the point of it being to his determent. I doubt he would change that after getting access to greater foresight. On top of all this, it puts increased stakes on team Urithiru because they now have to figure out a solution to save Dalinar from this eventual fate. He can't avoid death forever after all. Even something like becoming a Herald might trigger it off if the Heralds are actually cognitive shadows of some sort.
@MeMySkirtandI
4 күн бұрын
@@IamHattman oh yeah Renarin is a total blind spot for Odium.
@StringFlame10 күн бұрын
Cool.
@MeMySkirtandI
10 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@havewissmart9602
10 күн бұрын
Is it always the same person who says cool?
@MeMySkirtandI
9 күн бұрын
@@havewissmart9602 I think so. But I'm not complaining.
@scottstout68369 күн бұрын
Taln goes full Anakin Skywalker...err Vader for revenge. Taln is my top pick for Odium's champion.
@MeMySkirtandI
9 күн бұрын
Wow, the herald who never broke for 16000 years, would up and join team Odium next book. I guess he did save Amaram's life, but wow. That is a completely original theory!
@backinmyday52278 күн бұрын
What if the Lord of Scars went up against Dalinar?
@MeMySkirtandI
8 күн бұрын
That would be very surprising! But not unprecedented, he does show up in the prologue…
@stevenhedge285010 күн бұрын
People keep saying that Gavinor is gonna be the champion to make Dalinar lose, but I think that just ruins Daliniar's character, where he chose to not be Odium champion. it doesn't make sense for Dalinar to just give up his journey, even for Elokhar's child, because than he will just be resisting the entire time.
@MeMySkirtandI
10 күн бұрын
Resisting what?
@stevenhedge2850
10 күн бұрын
@@MeMySkirtandI odiums, commands I can’t see why Dalinar would listen to odium as champion after the contest and lead his armies, especially if he realizes it’s taravagium. Odds are I think the champion would be El, since he seems to respect the humans and is looking forward to leading them in invasion
@michaellewis154511 күн бұрын
While I am not sure who Odium champion but I am sure that F Moash is this channel's death to Carthage.
@MeMySkirtandI
11 күн бұрын
Thank you? "death to carthage" sounds very Roman,😁 but I must admit that I don't think about the Roman empire with regularity. Nor have I actually read the entire Aenid (le gasp) It's on my summer reading list.
@michalsoukup1021
10 күн бұрын
@@MeMySkirtandICato the Elder who lived through first Punic war would thereafter end EVERY one of his speeches with "furthermore I think Carthago must be destroyed"
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Not very related to the topic but I think that Moash is blinded as a result of him being the deadeye equvelant of Odium (severed bond)
@MeMySkirtandI
11 күн бұрын
That is an excellent theory. Do you think bond could be restored?
@parkermm
10 күн бұрын
Ooh. I’ve never thought of him that way, but I do really like that theory.
@Wheelz_44
3 күн бұрын
😧😧 never thought of that. What a good theory.
nice to see my Renarin theory got a mention. here is a Adolin theory for you: he will become a winddancer (edgerunner?) by bonding 2 spren, Maya and Notum.
@MeMySkirtandI
10 күн бұрын
He's definately got some sort of bond already with Maya, he gave her the strength to speak for herself at the trial. Whether that will manifest radiant powers, or I hope, just making him slightly harder to kill, who can say? As for Notum, who can say?
@juanperret7044
10 күн бұрын
Edgerunner is hilarious. Bro gonna be a cyberpunk
I like the child champiom theory because of the themes but i do struggle to see how we actually make our way there in a way that feels like it makes sense and isnt forced.
@MeMySkirtandI
10 күн бұрын
That is a struggle. Also Todium would be banking that Dalinar, who went through the experience of having his grandnephew kill him would have to serve the shard who put the child in that position. That doesn’t sound like a foundation for a relationship on which to save the Cosmere.
@juanperret7044
10 күн бұрын
Honestly really liked your reasoning for Gavinor being the champion. I think that Taravangian doesn't mind the result of the battle never ending because if neither die then the fight isn't over therefore the deal doesn't go through so Taravodium can keep the war going without issue
@MeMySkirtandI
10 күн бұрын
@@juanperret7044 I'm frightened by how convincing that argument worked. I baked muffins after making that argument. (I bake when I'm nervous)
Just read Rhythm of War chapter 54 and honestly that Renarin theory is looking reaaaaaaal likely. I can definitely see his lack of self worth being something that convinces him that Dalinar would kill his own son to save the world. Honestly the whole of chapter 54 which does discuss a contest of champions seeme like big set up for this. Liking that theory a LOT
@MeMySkirtandI
9 күн бұрын
Renarin's habit of undervaluing himself and his insight is probably the biggest liability team Honor has right now.
I cannot adequately express how satisfying it is that you consistently call him “F-face”
@MeMySkirtandI
10 күн бұрын
Glad to be of service!
Where do you place the Contest happening within the book? For me, I envision the Contest happening at the end of part 3. It will be the "Fall of Kholinar" moment in the book. This is because I expect Dalinar to lose and fulfill the promise to the audience that we have a new and more dangerous Odium. Brandon won't end the book with a complete hero loss however, that's not his style so the epic conclusion is Kaladin and others saving the day unexpectedly in part 5.
@MeMySkirtandI
10 күн бұрын
Pretty close to that. I figure we'll get the champion reveal at the end of part 3. Basically I see: Part 1 Kal & Szeth's excellent adventure, Part 2 getting Herald sanity to manageable levels, Part 3 Dalinar does Rocky ending with the duel starting Part 4 Dalinar fights and loses the duel. Part 5: Stormfather dies, Ride of the Willshapers, Ba-ado-Mishram is freed and either that fixes stuff or Kaladin becomes a herald/stormfather/both and that fixes stuff. Warcamps are saved the war is over, but their main bridge-builder just switched sides. Oops.
Hey can you make a video about who we might see take the main stage for the next set of books? Character POV's. (ex. Gavinor, Oridon, Shallan's possible child)
@MeMySkirtandI
10 күн бұрын
Oh gosh, I’m kinda scared to guess about the back 5, without knowing who survived the front 5
Szeth is metaphorically the "child" champion. He is mentioned as looking like a child twice in TWOK (chapters I-3 and I-6) and has already been manipulated by Taravangian more than once. So why can't he be manipulated again to be Odium's Champion? If you think about Szeth as the child and as the "weeper" in the deathrattles then they completely make sense. Dalinar & co. refuse to kill Szeth as Odium's champion so it is considered a tie with Dalinar breaking his oath, then the Stormfather is deadeyed causing the storm of all storms that gives off no Stormlight: the Night of Sorrows. Plus this is Szeth's book, it makes sense for him to be a part of the final payoff. “What I am owed,” the assassin shouted, rainwater spraying from his face and Stormlight rising from his lips, “will come to me eventually! Every bit of it. I will drown in it, stonewalker!” - Chapter 85 RoW
@MeMySkirtandI
9 күн бұрын
I considered Szeth as a possible champion. As you say it is his book. While the Alethi do view him as a child, I still have him as a potential champion for Honor. But yeah, despite his intention of being Honorable he’s currently worse at it than Gavinor.
Im still firmly in the camp that Renarin should be Dalinar's champion. Odium cant see him in the future and he has the ability to see the future himself. He's also able to just die and then come back via Progression/Regrowth. We've seen him be fully crushed previously and bounce back almost instantly. He could literally die, ending the duel, and then come back. He still 'died' satisfying the rules, and Dalinar wouldnt be dead. The terms of that agreement are that Dalinar become a fused when he dies if they lose. If they happen to lose and Dalinar isnt dead then it pushed back becoming a fused and serving Odium untill later on. All that could also serve as part 1 to 2 of the book and give us time to get more story in without having to e constrained by the 10 day time limit.
@MeMySkirtandI
4 күн бұрын
That is a pretty good idea for Renarin. Though I don't think Odium is going to wait to collect Dalinar's soul until he dies a natural death.
@IamHattman
4 күн бұрын
@@MeMySkirtandI Provided my last read through of RoW about 3 weeks ago is accurate, and that Sanderson plays to the exact wording the two used, I don't think he'll have a choice. As long as I'm remembering correctly the wording of the agreement is that when Dalinar dies his soul becomes Odium's. The contest doesn't specify that Dalinar's life is forfeit if his champion dies. They both just assumed that Dalinar would be his own champion and that the contest would be to the death, therefore Dalinar loosing in the contract is the same as the contract saying he has to die. But it never stipulates it. It would be a fantastic moment for Renarin, who we've been told is clever the whole series, to notice that loophole and then convince his father to let him stand in. I can also see Todium missing it. Renarin can't be seen with Odium's future sight, and Taravangian was relying on his predictions even before becoming Odium. To the point of it being to his determent. I doubt he would change that after getting access to greater foresight. On top of all this, it puts increased stakes on team Urithiru because they now have to figure out a solution to save Dalinar from this eventual fate. He can't avoid death forever after all. Even something like becoming a Herald might trigger it off if the Heralds are actually cognitive shadows of some sort.
@MeMySkirtandI
4 күн бұрын
@@IamHattman oh yeah Renarin is a total blind spot for Odium.
Cool.
@MeMySkirtandI
10 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@havewissmart9602
10 күн бұрын
Is it always the same person who says cool?
@MeMySkirtandI
9 күн бұрын
@@havewissmart9602 I think so. But I'm not complaining.
Taln goes full Anakin Skywalker...err Vader for revenge. Taln is my top pick for Odium's champion.
@MeMySkirtandI
9 күн бұрын
Wow, the herald who never broke for 16000 years, would up and join team Odium next book. I guess he did save Amaram's life, but wow. That is a completely original theory!
What if the Lord of Scars went up against Dalinar?
@MeMySkirtandI
8 күн бұрын
That would be very surprising! But not unprecedented, he does show up in the prologue…
People keep saying that Gavinor is gonna be the champion to make Dalinar lose, but I think that just ruins Daliniar's character, where he chose to not be Odium champion. it doesn't make sense for Dalinar to just give up his journey, even for Elokhar's child, because than he will just be resisting the entire time.
@MeMySkirtandI
10 күн бұрын
Resisting what?
@stevenhedge2850
10 күн бұрын
@@MeMySkirtandI odiums, commands I can’t see why Dalinar would listen to odium as champion after the contest and lead his armies, especially if he realizes it’s taravagium. Odds are I think the champion would be El, since he seems to respect the humans and is looking forward to leading them in invasion
While I am not sure who Odium champion but I am sure that F Moash is this channel's death to Carthage.
@MeMySkirtandI
11 күн бұрын
Thank you? "death to carthage" sounds very Roman,😁 but I must admit that I don't think about the Roman empire with regularity. Nor have I actually read the entire Aenid (le gasp) It's on my summer reading list.
@michalsoukup1021
10 күн бұрын
@@MeMySkirtandICato the Elder who lived through first Punic war would thereafter end EVERY one of his speeches with "furthermore I think Carthago must be destroyed"
@MeMySkirtandI
9 күн бұрын
@@michalsoukup1021 Pretty much.