The Ghostbloods, Sja-Anat, and Renarin in Rhythm of War Theory
#brandonsanderson #cosmere #stormlightarchive How Mraize, Sja-Anat, and the Ghostbloods set Renarin up.
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@cherubimandseraphim777Ай бұрын
Just came across your channel in the midst of a Cosmere binge and wow! You are fantastic!
@MeMySkirtandI
Ай бұрын
Oh thank you!
@willschiff2 ай бұрын
Best Cosmere theorizer in the game.
@MeMySkirtandI
2 ай бұрын
Blushes furiously.
@tedbourchert5986
Ай бұрын
I said the same thing.
@nikolaipawell30002 ай бұрын
You think Renarin is in trouble now, wait until he volunteers to be odiums champion.
@MeMySkirtandI
2 ай бұрын
Oof, now that’s a terrifying prospect. I mean who, among the Alethi, wouldn’t volunteer to die to free their home from invaders? But I hope he’ll be too busy on the hunt for Ba-Ado-Mishram.
@nikolaipawell3000
2 ай бұрын
@@MeMySkirtandI Oh, no. that's not how I meant it. For Dalinar to lose odiums champion must be someone he can’t (bring himself to) kill. I think Renarin will see (or be tricked into believing he saw) a Future were they win in the long term by Daninar becoming Odiums general. I have to admit I desperately want to see both the “Dalinar as Odiums champion bound by his own honour/oath” and the “Renarin the betrayer, hated for doing the right thing but can’t tell anyone why he did what he did or it would not work” storyline.
@MeMySkirtandI
2 ай бұрын
I agree that if Renarin is Odium’s champion, it would be by trickery. The trick I think would be Todium rolling up to someone Dalinar wouldn’t kill and saying “hey kid, want to die for your country?” Like Amaram did in book 1.
@nikolaipawell3000
2 ай бұрын
@@MeMySkirtandI Yeah I think he will do it of his own free will but he will doubt his own action, doubt whether he had been tricked or not, if his vision was true. If his long con will pay off. And I expect the pay off late in the second half, maybe storm light 8 or 9. Maybe Sanderson will leave the question why he volunteered/betrayed his people open, the same way the question why gavilar was killed.
@jamesclifford6429
Ай бұрын
This is kind of horrifying to think about! Imagine if he did a Doctor Strange in Endgame and out of all of the futures he see's, the only one that doesn't end in complete calamity is becoming Odium's champion and forcing Dalinar to lose and become fused. My poor boy
@ReadingDaveАй бұрын
The length is worth it.
@MeMySkirtandI
Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@connorslocum93272 ай бұрын
Awesome stuff here
@MeMySkirtandI
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the visit
@girlstrider2 ай бұрын
I won't be able to portage with Wind and Truth.
@MeMySkirtandI
2 ай бұрын
Better stick to Tress.
@HoidingOn
2 ай бұрын
but you will be able to fight off a bear with Wind and Truth
@girlstrider
2 ай бұрын
@@HoidingOn Right on the nose, its going to hurt!
@michaellewis15452 ай бұрын
I wounder if the audio versions is going to be over 100 hrs long?
@MeMySkirtandI
2 ай бұрын
Michael and Kate are going to be backlogged.
@IamHattman
Ай бұрын
RoW was 57 hours with 460,000 words, WaT has 490,000 so that should be something like 60 hours probably.
@StringFlame2 ай бұрын
Cool.
@MeMySkirtandI
2 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@joshuamaher61427 күн бұрын
damn you are incredibly smart. Like lightweaver smart.... did you take the radiant test? im intrigued to know 🙃
@MeMySkirtandI
27 күн бұрын
Windrunner/Skybreaker as of 2 years ago (when I was working in child protection). Now I might be leaning into Elsecaller territory.
@frogvie36242 ай бұрын
after watching this i’m definitely leaning towards not renarin now. have we even seen renarin interacting much with sja-anat? I can’t remember any instances of a conversation between the two. something that i’m a little unsure of, is why would the ghostbloods have preferred tarivangian to hold the shard of odium? surely thaidakar knows that a shard’s intent overpowers most of the vessel? it’s been a long time since i’ve read mistborn era 2 but kelsier has definitely interacted with harmony right? and the ghostbloods know that tarivangian would be more intelligent and dangerous than rayse? maybe it’s a “plans within plans” kind of situation, and the ghostbloods *want* odium to win and break out of the rosharan system?? idk just throwing ideas out now. something just doesn’t quite add up to me.
@MeMySkirtandI
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment! For me, I’m not sure how open Sja-Anat would have been. Or if Mraize was just trying to impress his boss.
@IamHattman
Ай бұрын
Just finished The Lost Metsl today, one of the last scenes is Kelsier and Sazed talking, as well as confirmation that they do so.. 'often' is the sense I got. But often by the scale of several century old immortals. Personally I think that Mraize just wants to get a spren and cultivate a relationship with Saj-Anat. Possibly as an avenue to get more spren for the Ghostbloods. Though admittedly the closing chapter from Twinborn's perspective made it seem that the main Ghostbloods aren't fond of how their Roshar operation has been going. There's also the angle that they just don't know the result. Saj-Anat could have just not told them why she wanted that done. I'm certain they don't want Odium loose. The groups main goal is the preservation of Scadrial after all. There's no way Odium leaves two shards in the hands of a single vessel. What happens when Sazed figures out that his shard don't have to be antagonistic and could be aligned to a cycle, or some other way of directing both shards to the same purpose? If Odium gets free he's probably going to make a straight line for Scadrial. Which is exactly against the Ghostbloods primary objective.
@MeMySkirtandI
Ай бұрын
@@IamHattman I totally agree that Twinsoul isn't thrilled with Mraize and his babsk's goings on on Roshar. Though since its Trell and not Odium attacking Scadrial in Era 2, it seems that somehow between the Ghostbloods and the Radiants, Odium is still stuck.
Пікірлер: 31
Just came across your channel in the midst of a Cosmere binge and wow! You are fantastic!
@MeMySkirtandI
Ай бұрын
Oh thank you!
Best Cosmere theorizer in the game.
@MeMySkirtandI
2 ай бұрын
Blushes furiously.
@tedbourchert5986
Ай бұрын
I said the same thing.
You think Renarin is in trouble now, wait until he volunteers to be odiums champion.
@MeMySkirtandI
2 ай бұрын
Oof, now that’s a terrifying prospect. I mean who, among the Alethi, wouldn’t volunteer to die to free their home from invaders? But I hope he’ll be too busy on the hunt for Ba-Ado-Mishram.
@nikolaipawell3000
2 ай бұрын
@@MeMySkirtandI Oh, no. that's not how I meant it. For Dalinar to lose odiums champion must be someone he can’t (bring himself to) kill. I think Renarin will see (or be tricked into believing he saw) a Future were they win in the long term by Daninar becoming Odiums general. I have to admit I desperately want to see both the “Dalinar as Odiums champion bound by his own honour/oath” and the “Renarin the betrayer, hated for doing the right thing but can’t tell anyone why he did what he did or it would not work” storyline.
@MeMySkirtandI
2 ай бұрын
I agree that if Renarin is Odium’s champion, it would be by trickery. The trick I think would be Todium rolling up to someone Dalinar wouldn’t kill and saying “hey kid, want to die for your country?” Like Amaram did in book 1.
@nikolaipawell3000
2 ай бұрын
@@MeMySkirtandI Yeah I think he will do it of his own free will but he will doubt his own action, doubt whether he had been tricked or not, if his vision was true. If his long con will pay off. And I expect the pay off late in the second half, maybe storm light 8 or 9. Maybe Sanderson will leave the question why he volunteered/betrayed his people open, the same way the question why gavilar was killed.
@jamesclifford6429
Ай бұрын
This is kind of horrifying to think about! Imagine if he did a Doctor Strange in Endgame and out of all of the futures he see's, the only one that doesn't end in complete calamity is becoming Odium's champion and forcing Dalinar to lose and become fused. My poor boy
The length is worth it.
@MeMySkirtandI
Ай бұрын
Thanks!
Awesome stuff here
@MeMySkirtandI
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the visit
I won't be able to portage with Wind and Truth.
@MeMySkirtandI
2 ай бұрын
Better stick to Tress.
@HoidingOn
2 ай бұрын
but you will be able to fight off a bear with Wind and Truth
@girlstrider
2 ай бұрын
@@HoidingOn Right on the nose, its going to hurt!
I wounder if the audio versions is going to be over 100 hrs long?
@MeMySkirtandI
2 ай бұрын
Michael and Kate are going to be backlogged.
@IamHattman
Ай бұрын
RoW was 57 hours with 460,000 words, WaT has 490,000 so that should be something like 60 hours probably.
Cool.
@MeMySkirtandI
2 ай бұрын
Thanks!
damn you are incredibly smart. Like lightweaver smart.... did you take the radiant test? im intrigued to know 🙃
@MeMySkirtandI
27 күн бұрын
Windrunner/Skybreaker as of 2 years ago (when I was working in child protection). Now I might be leaning into Elsecaller territory.
after watching this i’m definitely leaning towards not renarin now. have we even seen renarin interacting much with sja-anat? I can’t remember any instances of a conversation between the two. something that i’m a little unsure of, is why would the ghostbloods have preferred tarivangian to hold the shard of odium? surely thaidakar knows that a shard’s intent overpowers most of the vessel? it’s been a long time since i’ve read mistborn era 2 but kelsier has definitely interacted with harmony right? and the ghostbloods know that tarivangian would be more intelligent and dangerous than rayse? maybe it’s a “plans within plans” kind of situation, and the ghostbloods *want* odium to win and break out of the rosharan system?? idk just throwing ideas out now. something just doesn’t quite add up to me.
@MeMySkirtandI
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment! For me, I’m not sure how open Sja-Anat would have been. Or if Mraize was just trying to impress his boss.
@IamHattman
Ай бұрын
Just finished The Lost Metsl today, one of the last scenes is Kelsier and Sazed talking, as well as confirmation that they do so.. 'often' is the sense I got. But often by the scale of several century old immortals. Personally I think that Mraize just wants to get a spren and cultivate a relationship with Saj-Anat. Possibly as an avenue to get more spren for the Ghostbloods. Though admittedly the closing chapter from Twinborn's perspective made it seem that the main Ghostbloods aren't fond of how their Roshar operation has been going. There's also the angle that they just don't know the result. Saj-Anat could have just not told them why she wanted that done. I'm certain they don't want Odium loose. The groups main goal is the preservation of Scadrial after all. There's no way Odium leaves two shards in the hands of a single vessel. What happens when Sazed figures out that his shard don't have to be antagonistic and could be aligned to a cycle, or some other way of directing both shards to the same purpose? If Odium gets free he's probably going to make a straight line for Scadrial. Which is exactly against the Ghostbloods primary objective.
@MeMySkirtandI
Ай бұрын
@@IamHattman I totally agree that Twinsoul isn't thrilled with Mraize and his babsk's goings on on Roshar. Though since its Trell and not Odium attacking Scadrial in Era 2, it seems that somehow between the Ghostbloods and the Radiants, Odium is still stuck.