I'm a choo choo train and I approve this video!!!

P45's for all the firemen!

If only there was still 'Big Bertha'

@nigelmitchell351

5 жыл бұрын

Yes that would be worth watching and the 6 cylinder Garratt!

@johnbishop5316

4 жыл бұрын

@@nigelmitchell351 It is an awful pity that a unique engine couldn't have been rescued.

@nigelmitchell351

4 жыл бұрын

@@johnbishop5316 it sure is, have you seen the GL at Manchester science museum ? Imagine that thundering up the Lickey !!!

@johnbishop5316

4 жыл бұрын

@@nigelmitchell351 Not sure I understand? GL? There is a Beyer Garrat there. I think it was narrow guage 2ft 6in or something for South Africa? They did try one on Lickey but it was too slow and ponderous. Ah! yes, here you are: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LNER_Class_U1 I recall someone telling me that it was too tight in the guage over the points for crossing to the down track to return to Bromsgrove. (Up and down terminology had real meaning there!)

Vrry interesting thanks 😊

Let's give the Queen a push now!

Why else would the platforms be overcrowded like that?

@JohnSmith-pd1fz

3 жыл бұрын

++@Awilda Wren++ Who cares?

@Thursdaym2

2 жыл бұрын

Not a lot going on around there?

Eyes on the prize, and stop fiddling with the zoom.

i lived at this spot during the steam era....it was quite common for engines to slip...it's all about timing,getting it right between the leading and banking engines, the bankers don,t seem to take effect until it reaches the start of the platform,so until then the princess was pulling a much heavier load thus causing the slipping....

@johnbishop5316

4 жыл бұрын

I lived around there too. I missed big Bertha but they had a 9F there and several tankes like those in this film . I remember seeing one very long train taking off with 3 engines on back and another one chasing after which caught up about 400 yards onto the bank. I think the drivers doing this job had quite a fun time. I think it was hard work for the stokers. they would be stripped to the waist in summer.

Aspect ratio!

Incorrect aspect ratio. 16:9 image squashed to 4:3

Glen was your father called Brian??/ If so im on face book . john Barnes

@glendipple

7 жыл бұрын

john barnes .No he wasn't. but I have heard of Brian. cheers

@tumbi100

7 жыл бұрын

I worked with Brain in early 50 son the bank as a fireman ,i knew all the drivers and firemen until call up .Then went into a railway unit , untill Brain got hurt in a smash at longmoor.Thought about a book once.

Total tractive effort anyone, my guess 33’000 for the Princess and 24’000 for both “ matchbox’s “ 57’000 lbs tractive effort.

@hoagy_ytfc

3 жыл бұрын

So a fair bit less than a single Western ;)

@exb.r.buckeyeman845

3 жыл бұрын

@@hoagy_ytfc Not sure, diesels use hp don’t they ?

@hoagy_ytfc

3 жыл бұрын

@@exb.r.buckeyeman845 They also have a tractive effort, which is over 70,000lb for the Western.

@exb.r.buckeyeman845

3 жыл бұрын

@@hoagy_ytfc Thanks David, didn’t know that, it’s a lot of Tractive Effort.

@richardhelliwell1210

3 жыл бұрын

57,000 lbs is about the same total tractive effort as 1 Class 47. Plus the acceleration on the diesel would be quicker. I think this event was put on for show as I think the Princess would have no problem with that small load up the Lickey.

What on gods earth is a "double lickey banker"... ?

@JohnSmith-pd1fz

5 жыл бұрын

++FalconXE302++ Well the Lickey is the bank or gradient, a long hill if you like. Sometimes more than one locomotive is required to get the train, that is the carriages or load, to the top of the hill so a second specialised locomotive, the Banker, is kept ready in the area for just such occasions. It assists the hauling locomotive up the hill by pushing the rear of the train. Sometimes one Banker is not enough so two are used, a Double, one pushing the other and together pushing the train itself. Arrangements of points and additional tracks enabled the Bankers to return to the bottom of the hill without blocking the main line, as soon as their work was done.

@johnbishop5316

4 жыл бұрын

@@JohnSmith-pd1fz Nice bit of mansplaining. But I suspect the "Lickey" was what was causing the trouble, It's a place, near Bromsgrove UK and where the incline is. It didn't help that it wasn't capitalised.

@thomasm1964

4 жыл бұрын

@@JohnSmith-pd1fz One some occasions, as many as four bankers were used to help trains up the Lickey. See kzread.info/dash/bejne/amRmqZKLlrCdobA.html . Note that the bankers are ex-GWR panniers rather than LMS Jintys although bankers were rated in terms of Jinky equivalents. So a banker might be a 1 (equivalent to one Jinty) or a 2 (equivalent to two Jintys) and so on.

@johnbishop5316

4 жыл бұрын

Part of it is called Lickey End BTW, which sounds like an intersting activity.

@thomasm1964

4 жыл бұрын

@@johnbishop5316 Do you mind! I've just eaten lunch!

Why did she slip even with two bankers /

@johnbishop5316

6 жыл бұрын

Power!

@karlosbricks2413

5 жыл бұрын

well, the coordination needed for the bankers to open their regulators was notoriously difficult, and obviously no one's had practice of this in decades aside from a few events like this, so the quality of the banking, so to speak, probably isn't as good as in the actual steam days, neither is the skill the drivers possess either

@brianfoster7794

5 жыл бұрын

Have you any idea how steep lickey incline is? it’s the steepest in the UK and long

@johnbishop5316

4 жыл бұрын

@@brianfoster7794 1 in 36.

@johnbishop5316

4 жыл бұрын

Also, I've recently seen (old) calculation as to just how much surface area the wheels put down on the track. For a large engin it's about half a square inch or somthing. So even despite the weight, its a wonder they didn't slip more. Perhaps the need pnuematic tyres? Oh, I've just invented the bus!

Sorry! I really did not enjoy this video at all. A generous 1/10.