It would totally make sense for the real robots of the future in Wall-e to have a resemblance to the fictional robots found in movies within the Pixar Universe. That exact thing happens in our world today. People who make real robots find inspiration from the robots or droids that existed in the movies they watched growing up.

@bekkahboodles

Жыл бұрын

That's what I was thinking!

@Mr1991bbk

Жыл бұрын

I like the idea though because of the implications. Like how Riley being in Finding Dory seems to imply it is "real". If you follow the in-universe Easter Eggs, it starts becoming more of a possibility that she was just simply an "extra" in the movie. Edit: which then leads into the possibility that Riley is actually an actress and Inside Out is an in-universe movie.

@WolfsbaneGL

Жыл бұрын

For a specific real-world example, just look at Star Trek. Automatic doors and flip-phones came about in real life because someone wanted to make science fiction into reality.

@karebear3152

Жыл бұрын

guess my robot would be a freaking mech suit from an anime then lol.

@adammartinez8061

Жыл бұрын

@@Mr1991bbk and we know Ratatouille did happen because in inside out, A Magazine with Collette on it can be spotted.

I love the meta commentary of "if this isn't real how could I possibly build a career around this idea."

Man, the thought of Pixar having it's own world that has its own movies that companies pay to include product placements. Wild.

Lightyear was an average movie but I think WALL·E is still a masterpiece.

@aaronporter2180

Жыл бұрын

I would say below average

@Gabbuell

Жыл бұрын

Agree, Wall-e is perfect, it has no flaws.

@orangeinkius7257

Жыл бұрын

Lightyear was the definition of mid, it's like it was crafted by an algorithm, if it weren't for the gay kiss no one would've remembered it a second after the credits rolled the first time

@orionfettes5501

Жыл бұрын

I got to say friend lightyear wasn't an average movie it was just bad but Wally yeah you're right it's still a masterpiece

@orionfettes5501

Жыл бұрын

@@orangeinkius7257 I think the gay kiss was the only good thing about the movie

There's one correction we have to make: Lightyear, as you stated, is not (in universe) an animated movie. It's live action. The render style is the same as real people in the pixar world. Meaning these are actors, not animations or CG models. So if pixar IS the ones making this sudo-movie, then they are a film studio, not an animation studio. Which draws ALOT of your prior points of reference into question. Also, the statue in the office of the alien. . . it literally says "pixar" on it. Speaking of that shelf, the burn-e thing. . . you could have it backwards. BNL could be the Boston Dynamics/Amazon of that world. Burn-e could be one of their earliest models and the movie could have used BNL's/Amazon's robot as inspiration for their movie. . . the same way we see Spot the Robot Dog in alot of real films or in things like Black Mirror.

@millieskippy_g

Жыл бұрын

Also the fact that in Wall-E he plays film clips of real live-action human movies can point to the fact that it’s not placed within a solely animated world.

@Hadeks_Marow

Жыл бұрын

@@millieskippy_g Actually, that would suggest the opposite. I would imagine what looks live action to us would in-universe be what animation looks like to them. . . but that would just be weird. Like, bad CGI weird. :/

@mightyxt

Жыл бұрын

If the Pixar of the Pixar universe didn’t create the movie, the movie studio that did sure does reference Pixar a lot.

@darrenmacqueen9884

Жыл бұрын

@@Hadeks_Marow I just assumed CGI never became a thing in this universe. All animation remained 2D. Trying to imagine what a CG animated movie looks like inside of a CG animated movie just makes my brain hurt. lol

@Hadeks_Marow

Жыл бұрын

@@darrenmacqueen9884 CGI would 10000% need to be a thing otherwise special effects couldn't exist for their live-action stuff. Alternatively, CGI could be represented in a "cel-shaded" rendering style.

I'm glad for the recent Pixar videos. I think because Buy n Large is a villain in Wall-E, Wall-E isn't a in-universe movie. Also, this is the first one to announce its as a movie, so I think Lightyear is the only one so far and all the others from Good Dinosaur to Brave, to Monsters Inc are "real" in the Pixar universe.

I feel like WALL•E can't be in universe, just because I can't see a movie company risking being sued by buy-n-large just to use a recognizable brand as a demonstration of their message. I also was thinking about the evidence that Raven Mountain from Onward is likely an Axiom ship, but then I realized the problem with that is that there is also a theory that Onward is Andy's imagination, and it seems totally possible that he could have also watched WALL•E and used the axiom as inspiration for raven mountain somehow. Overall though, if Buy-n-Large existed in the 'real' Pixar universe than I can't imagine a movie company creating a movie with them as the villain. And if the movie existed, I can't imagine a company naming themselves after a villainous corporation. So I don't think that WALL•E was an in-universe movie. Plus it wouldn't make as much sense to clarify that Lightyear is an in-universe movie if they didn't clarify it for WALL•E.

@Orto-jj2di

Жыл бұрын

Exactly 💯

@paganathiest6349

Жыл бұрын

although thing that is really sus abt BnL is the batteries that come standard in all off the shelf buzz lightyears, so obviously there is some sort of sponsorship deal happening, or rather a partnership. you advertise our company we can hook you up with discounted batteries to put in all of your toys

@Orto-jj2di

Жыл бұрын

@@paganathiest6349 portraying it's own company as evil in walle definitely isn't in bnl favour

@thegamemaster2000

Жыл бұрын

Mockumentories exist in our world, as well as stylized documentaries. Super size me come to mind mostly. But political and parody commentary exist and protected by many laws in our world . Maybe it's along the same thing.

The way I see it, Lightyear isn’t the movie Andy watches, because Zurg isn’t Buzz’s father. Instead, Lightyear takes place during/After WallE. When B&L say earth is uninhabitable, they create the space rangers to go and find a new planet home. Buzz, as a teenager, helped lay the foundations for some weapons and vehicle blueprints while training as one of the 1st generation cadets. Also, buzz’s dad would be a kid on earth, and name his son after his favorite childhood movie. Buzz himself would be born on the axiom, and thus not have seen the movie that gave him his name. After some time on the planet, a message from the axiom arrives saying that they returned to earth, the mission is a bust. That’s why they shut down the mission, because the mission was to find humans a new home, but it’s no longer nessasary after wallE.

@LokiScarletWasHere

Жыл бұрын

Except Zurg isn't Buzz's father in any version. In Toy Story, they're toys. In BLoSC, it's revealed to be a "made you look" trick Zurg uses to confuse Buzz. The utility belt Buzz toy is naturally driven to play along, so it does. And that's the thing about toys in Toy Story. When you don't know you're a toy yet, you act like one involuntarily.

A few things to note: - The Luxo Lamp constellation also appears in Toy Story 2 in the video game in the first shot of the movie. - Ratzenberger did not appear in Luca or Turning Red either which raises questions about if those two movies are in-universe or not. - The luxo jr ball is missing from other films besides Lightyear as well.

@benjaminmargulies1853

6 ай бұрын

did not voice a character in SOUL either but has a lookalike

Honestly, I think Buzz's batteries confirm that BnL (and thus the events of Wall-E) _are_ something that's canon to the main timeline, the Burn-E statue was "just a coincidence" that a future robot looked like it (and/or BnL just taking serious inspiration from the robots in Lightyear, like you said), and... _the Cars series_ is "movies within the Pixarverse" and didn't actually happen. It's just too _out of place_ compared to everything else (both Pixar Theory standards and the other movies in general), plus it'd be trivial to explain them as the Pixarverse equivalent of the Chevron Cars toys... because _well duh._

@darrenmacqueen9884

Жыл бұрын

Wall-E is too crucial to the Pixar Theory to be made into a movie within it. I would love Cars to be a movie series, but I don't like something being dismissed as just a movie within the universe unless it connects to something within it. The theory I read of Onward being a movie written by an adult Andy based on how he lost his father was really cool. I modified the theory a bit to make it co-written by Andy and Molly, with Andy being the inspiration for Barley and Molly being Ian. I can definitely see Andy being the fun loving, nerdy, surrogate older brother/ father figure to Molly that could inspire this movie. And Andy has such an incredible imagination that him growing up to be a film maker just makes sense. For Cars to be a film as well, I think we still need some connection to something. It needs to either be a result of something that we saw in one of the other movies, Like Onward, or it needs to lead to something we see in another movie, like Lightyear. Otherwise, it's just not an interesting theory.

Lightyear serves as a meta-movie that made theories question themselves

Has no one noticed yet that the Hello Dolly tape in WALL-E is our definition of live-action, not Pixar’s universe’s definition of live action, or is there some crazy explanation for it I haven’t noticed? The only one I can think of is that WALL-E actually came second in the timeline, after The Good Dinosaur, and then also our reality timeline. Once WALL-E ended, the new normal for how humans looked led to every other Pixar movie after being live-action in-universe.

In toy story, the reason buzz was freezing around humans before knowing that he was a toy was because he stated that he was learning the “alien’s traditions,” not because he was faking as a space ranger

For the product placement of Pizza Planet in Lightyear, I thought that was clever but I actually noticed another set of product placement in the movie. In the vending machine with the inverted sandwiches, you can see an item that says “Poultry Palace” on it, which is the fast food restaurant that Bonnie and her mom visit during the short “Small Fry”. I haven’t noticed anything else with this restaurant, but I thought it was a clever nod. You can see it for a split second in the clip used at 12:27 next to the sandwich

Interesting idea, can't wait for you to convince me!

I loved this video and the different layers of timelines talked about. Although I am ONCE AGAIN asking for an updated Pixar theory video where you talk about the entire timeline of events in order (whether thats one continuous timeline or with a universe within, thats up to you guys 😅)

If all the pixar movies are just movies in the pixar universe, does that mean that the people in the pixar universe have a pixar theory of their own, that just keeps looping into itself infinitely?

I'd like to note that since Onward was connected to the Pixar Theory through Walle then wouldn't that mean that if Walle is just a movie inside the pixar universe that Onward would need to be as well.

@spikethefoxdragon941

Жыл бұрын

@minisamuri47 i just had that same thought lol

@adammartinez8061

5 ай бұрын

Because of the Ian balloon in TS4. So Turning red, TS1-TS4, UP(The Grape Soda can being spotted in TS4) Finding Nemo and Dory, Inside out, Monsters Inc and university, Luca do happen while A Bugs life is probably just a movie as well. Either if the incredible actually happens or is just a movie is still Debatable. Cars is either an alternate universe or just a movie. Elemental is probably an alternate universe too.

If Wall-E isn't real, then Monsters Inc no longer fits into the Pixar Theory, so Boo can't be the witch.

I think the robot figure in the office is product placement from BNL. They could already have similar robots (after all, given what we see in The Incredibles, AI is more advanced by this point than in our universe), and I think BNL would definitely make toys and figures of them.

Theory: Every Pixar movie exists both in the Pixar universe both as an in-universe movie AND as true events that really happened in the Pixar universe. Hear me out. The direct-to-video Buzz Lightyear of Star Command movie starts with the Toys from Toy Story opening the box for the movie and putting it into a VHS player. On that box, there is a small graphic in the bottom left corner that says "Featuring the Star of Toy Story", and that graphic is still visible on the box IN THE MOVIE, which means that the Toy Story movies exist WITHIN the Toy Story universe as movies that you can watch! That means that Toy Story characters are canonically able to watch the Toy Story movies, so I think it's safe to assume that this logic can apply to other movies in the Pixar universe.

Personally I think by and large just went and write that down when they saw a robot thinking of new ideas but when able to produce them until much later in the future so they were just basically waiting for technology to keep up till they were able to create all those robots.

@kenziehurlock

Жыл бұрын

It's no different than real life engineers and scientists building things inspired by science fiction.

I wonder if we can actually go through the old Pixar movies and look for Easter Eggs to older movies that could be the next in universe movie. For example, maybe the Mikey Keychain in Wall-e means that the next in universe movie to come out after was Monsters Inc. It could also be Finding Nemo but then you'd have to explain Riley in Finding Dory. Although, that could be as simple as her being an extra in the movie.

I love how he gets hung up on the canonicity of each Pixar movie, even though they realistically don't have ANYTHING to do with each other outside of a few easter eggs.

I thought Lightyear was supposed to be the movie Andy was watching?

If Wall-E WAS an in-universe Pixar movie, I could think of one possible reason (though it's pretty unlikely) that BnL would allow themselves to be portrayed so negatively in a movie: "There's no such thing as bad publicity."

I'm surprised The good dinosaur didn't reference Dinoco

@SuperCarlinBrothers I was watching the LIGHTYEAR commentary, Angus Maclane mentioned how there are Wall-E's at the terillium mine in LIGHTYEAR.

My thoughts: WALL-E happened (for the Pixar theory), but Pixar (in universe) is a visual effects company who wanted to make their own shows/movies, so after making some other projects, they felt confident enough to make a full-length feature -- Lightyear. This is not unlike Walt Disney and his animators working on a few shorts, before getting started on Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. Maybe the in universe version of Pixar had their own version of Lassetter, and Docter, and Ranft, and they got together and went "Okay... so what do we make next?"

I think A Bug's Life is definitely "metafiction", as in Toy Story 2 we see Mrs. Potato Head reading its storybook to the other toys.

@adammartinez8061

5 ай бұрын

Cars as well…or Cars is probably an alternate universe.

I like this because it could be pointing to the fact that Monsters University (not WALL-E) is believed to be a movie inside the Monsters Inc. universe.

Wait first Up wasnt real and now this??! Are you going to tell me the entire Pixar Theory is just Andy's dream?! or Boo's dream?! or Riley's dream?! or they all are somewhere in the zone and the dude from Soul is having all of their dreams merge into one?!

We need an updated full Pixar Theory video. I'm losing track of how everything fits lol

An interesting problem the movie idea introduces: Lightyear is an origin story for the Toy Story movies, which also get a Cars-life remake in the first Cars movie, meaning Lightyear is fictional in the Toy Story universe which were fictional movies in the Cars universe

So if Wall-E is an in-universe movie, it’s a live-action show, right? Does that mean Fred Willard’s actual live-action clip would be their animation? Because that would open up a lot of our movies to be used as in-universe animated features. Which would explain the Empire Strikes Back reference in Toy Story 2. 🤯

As much as this may make things feel more complicated, I think this precedent being set, with a different take on Easter eggs could be interesting for the theory, and freshen up things. Now not everything has to only be in the one universe with some complicating things. They can be movies, or imagination. Edit: spelling

I love Pixar theory videos 💛

A universe inside of a universe is beautiful.

The "Incredibles" could be a movie based off the comic book the boy in "Finding Nemo" is reading in the waiting room of the dentist office.

@SuperCarlinBrothers not sure if you noticed, but on the alien statue in Lightyear you can just see 'Pixar' inscribed on the bust

Ben for Kvothe!🧙🏻‍♂️🗡 J for Elodin!🗡🧙🏻‍♂️

I died at “ *coughcough* screen rant” 😂😂😂

The Pixar theory song will never cease to bring me joy

I like thinking Lightyear the film is more a remake/reimagining based on Buzz lore, like the Paramount Sonic movie not really being a remake, but reimagining based on Sonic lore. The Buzz Star Commamd Spinoff is thus like Sonic SatAM or so, being canon to itself, but like Lightyear, not being canon to mainline Buzz. Maybe Wall-E in-Pixarverse is also a live-action hybrid film, but more like Labyrinth and less like Alvin and the Chipmunks. Also also, Monsters Inc lacks A113, but Monsters U does.

@ameliabrown3987

Жыл бұрын

That was my thought while watching it as well

love the downtown photo shoot ! 😂

Doesn't the opening text from Lightyear create the precedent that any Pixar movie that is an in-universe movie would have a similar opening text disclaimer?

I think the burn-e thing was similar to the pizza planet truck egg because it's could be more sponsorship that BnL are working on at the time

I feel like BML made a short for this movie and that was like an Easter egg for that. BUT I also think that people loved it so much that they started making robots for every day purpose, not only that, they wanted to make buzz as real as possible, including making a space ship that will go into space, which kick started the events in wall-e

Doesn't the alien statue mentioned at 8:34 say Pixar on it? It could be that is an Easter egg for the in-universe Pixar studio...

The only problem with this theory, before i finish the video, is how do you explain BnL aka "Buy n Large" in WALL•E since its mentioned in Toy story 3 and 4 & Cars 3 and the shorts?

Wouldn't it be easier to acknowledge that Lightyear isn't real and just one of Andy's imaginary play-games?

Love the videos!

@donavenzelch8679

Жыл бұрын

I was sent a message told to text you by telegram but the message went away. And I'm not sure what it's about.

@donavenzelch8679

Жыл бұрын

Sorry nevermind I think it was a scam.

This is the earliest I've ever been to catching a video posted 😭

I think a good candidate for a in universe movie is onward and maybe wall-e got a sequel and that’s why the axium was there

Ah yes, Cal Tech. Not to be confused with Cal Arts, an identical school XD

07:16, 09:01 - If the Pizza Planet refference in Lightyear is an in-universe product placement deal, then it is an extremely badly executed product placement. A product placement needs to have the product prominently featured or at least clearly visible. The Pizza Planet truck in Lightyear is impossible to notice.

Or, hear me out, the BURN-E reference isn't referencing WALL-E as alternate-universe-Pixar's next film, but referencing the our-universe Pixar short BURN-E as their next film! Maybe, in alternate-universe Pixar's world, BURN-E was a feature length film rather than a short, and BURN-E became the main character. Seeing as the our-universe next film reference is Wade, the main character (or one of them) of Elemental, it makes sense that the in-universe next film reference would also be referencing the main character of their next movie - BURN-E! Also, I feel like there's something to be said that WALL-E is so far, the only Pixar film with live-action actors and segments, and in-universe, Lightyear is a live-action movie! Lots to think about...

Love this

As a guy who loves Wall-E: No

Ah yes, 13, the number that goes between 14 and 15...

Can't wait!

4:39 ah yes, toy trauma and PTSD, not something I thought I would have to think about but here we are

Ben, I NEED that shirt! Headed to the shop! 🏃🏾

Maybe BnL also has product placement in Lightyear, and that's why the robots in the movie and a figurine look like BnL robots. Maybe the "nod to the next movie" Easter egg is the 3-eyed alien, a nod to the sequel for Lightyear. Wall-E is too crucial to the Pixar theory as whole, so it can't be a movie in the Pixar universe. If any other movie would be an in-universe movie, then my candidates are Cars and The Incredibles. Cars simply because they're the hardest to fit anyway, but the car alarm that Wall-E sets off kinda proves its place in the timeline. I suspect Incredibles because we don't see supers anywhere else in the Pixar universe. How can something as big as superpowers be hidden in the background? Of course it's possible that they are such a normal part of life in the Pixar universe that other people in the other movies just don't acknowledge it, but if they are a normal part of life, why are they not acknowledged in their movies? A character in the Lightyear movie has superpowers, and everyone thinks it's normal, because it's normal even for the audience? Unfortunately, or fortunately if like me you want the Incredibles to keep its place in the timeline, the Incredibles is also crucial to the theory. They explain the origins of AI that will grow in BnL, and they explain why the strongest emotion switched from fear to joy in Monsters Inc.

i think that Lightyear is assumed to be the first in universe movie, i think this is them acknowledging the pixar theory but not wanting to be stuck in a box of pleasing the audience so this gives way for them to have future movies just be movies within the greater pixar universe

@wulftheghost

Жыл бұрын

pleasing the audience =/ Making movies???

@beargangentertainment

Жыл бұрын

@@wulftheghost i meant more like getting stuck in a box of doing what the fans say and being able to still do what they want, even though it will always be influenced by what the fans are generally interested in seeing

I thought you guys already knew this. Yes there’s a pretty good theory of a universe within the Pixar universe, two types of Pixar movies. Universe A, what is “real”, and universe B what is created within universe A the same way pixar makes it for us as spectators.

The way to find out is a movie happened or if it was just a movie is to check if they show toys of movies in other movie. For example monster Inc shows Nemo at the ending meaning Nemo was a movie but monster Inc was real

Liking this Lightyear mood!!

Can you please make an updated Pixar theory video!

Up it's also a movie in universe, and that is why Riley remembers Carl's neckties

It could also be that BnL were behind the creation of the light year movie in order to drum up enthusiasm for their upcoming space ventures. Consider the fact that there is tons of references in toy story to space even beyond buzz, to the point that a major plot point is that the main character has become obsessed with space travel. In fact, there are tons of references between BnL and the lightyear movie. The fact that all buzz light year toys are made from BnL, the video games about lightyear show BnL batteries as the power source for Zurgs ship, and even the letters BnL when you remove the and are just BL, the same initials as Buzz Lightyear. I don’t think saying that BnL created the movie, this why their robots look similar is too much of a stretch

7:40 I forgot how bad computers were at animating people... Thanks for the nightmare fuel

When did videos start coming out on Wednesday/Fridays?

I bet every time Pixar comes out with a new movie the Carlin brothers panic at the thought of having to rewrite the entire Pixar timeline so the movie fits within it

Can you guys make an updated complete pixar theory

At the beginning of Lightyear, you get a 15 seconds screen telling you in plain words that it's a movie that Andy saw when he was a kid. The fact this is the only pixar movie to notify that to the viewers leads me to believe it's the only one, so far, that is a in Pixar Universe movie.

What if Wall-E is a documentary in the Pixar universe

While I love it, “Onward” is my candidate for “movie within the Pixarverse” vote. It just doesn’t fit with the rest of the films. Again, I LOVE “Onward!” It is so sweet and heartbreaking and all the references to D&D, Lord of the Rings and the Greek myths that served as the inspiration for early movies just made me SO happy!! But it still feels like a movie within a movie.

Maybe Walle was a movie based on true events like a movie, based on a true story, meaning that’s a movie about Walle the hero that brought them back to earth

It has to be considered, that if WALL-E is just a movie inside the Pixar universe, it will be also very likely that Onward also is. Since the main point of onward being a part of the Pixar theory is, that the mountain somewhat resembles the axiom from WALL-E.

@adammartinez8061

Жыл бұрын

There is a bugs life toys in Al’s Toy Barn. There is a Mike Wazowski Pinata in Coco. So it’s also possible that Monsters Inc and A Bugs life also never happened.

@benjaminmargulies1853

6 ай бұрын

@@adammartinez8061 Finding Nemo and a bug's life are set in the same universe (both have talking arthropods since Jacques is an arthropod crustacean shrimp)

Before you’re playing chess now with lightyear you’re playing 4d chess

If bnl isn't real world canon, it changes a lot

9:00 ME!!! Yes, really...

I wonder how neglected his couch feels since no one sits in it

If Wall-E is a movie within the Pixar Universe… wouldn’t that then mean the Onward is also… a… Pixar Pixar… movie?

This totally means that Onward is a movie within the Pixar universe And that would make sense, that’s why it shows the mountain being the axiom

I love that the Pixar Universe is now so much like the the Barbie Universe

Man such a shame Lightyear wasn't better...

One article explains that it’s to fit in with the other characters his size which is why he froze around Andy with the other toys.

Toy Buzz freezing around humans in the mainline Toy Story films doesn't even need an explanation in a Lightyear sequel; Toy Buzz *thinks* he's a Space Ranger, but he still *is* actually a toy, and as such he has the toy instinct to freeze around humans.

Would Wall-E being an in-universe movie also mean Onward is an in-universe movie? My rationale is that you see the axium from Wall-E as one of the mountains in onward-( from what I remember from how you explained how Onward fit into the Pixar theory). I love this content so many fun questions to explore and opportunities to rethink what we knew about the Pixar Theory.

The movie bolt, about an in universe movie, specifically calls out finding Nemo as also being an in universe movie. My memory on it is a little hazy, but when the birds are pitching a movie idea to bolt, they bring up how they scared away Nemo by pitching him a movie as well, meaning that Nemo was also an animal actor in an in universe movie.

Pixar’s next movie is about characters made out of fire and water How would that fit in?

Wow, the level of obsession you have to trace the lamp out of the stars in 1 scene of a movie. Sure do hope those KZread checks are bangin

I fully expect a rambling video of how A113 didn't appear in Lightyear, if they don't find it.

Wow. Its bending my mind abit. Reminds me of that Deadpool scene: "Wow, a fourth wall break within a a fourth wall break? THats like, 16 walls!"

BnL in Andy’s time would still be a small tech company. One that sells batteries and may be getting into robotics. Think about what Burn-E does, it is a welding robot. That would be a great place for a tech company that is looking to enter the market to start. Welding is a very expensive process that would benefit greatly from automation. This is why I believe that the placement of Burn-E in Lightyear is actually the sponsorship from BnL. It wants to show off its new product but might not have the money yet to make it a big part of the film. And, over time, BnL grows into the giant corporation that destroys the planet in Wall-E

The Alien trophy has PIXAR on it's podium

Boy really called out screen rant 😂

12:02 when 😂he realizes he’s been over used