At 1.42 it's not as if Paul decided. There was a debate and the Apostles agreed with Paul. At 2.58 the chart is a bit misleading. It makes it appear that all these schools of thought had the same adherents. But the truth is that few disagreed from what later came to be the Nicean Creed.

man, this video could really use some cross-referencing with the revisionist school of Islamic studies, hope you check it out!

@atbing2425

2 ай бұрын

I will, thanks

@Toco-yp6gg

2 ай бұрын

😂 revisionist school is dying out because people can’t take anything they say seriously…pushing that mecca was actually Petra..to Patricia Crone basically becoming an anti Islam polemicist 😂. Dishonest academia just like oreantalist To saying that prophet Mohammad didn’t exist..

5:01 the ebonites when extinct one hundred years befor in the 5th century “A recent theory that he was an Ebionite is not considered mainstream. The Christian scholar in the field of Oriental studies, Irfan Shahîd, says that there is no evidence that the Ebionites remained until the 7th century AD, much less that they had a presence in Mecca.” While yes Jews did exist they lived around madina and Yemen while most Christian’s lived around sham/lavant region

@atbing2425

2 ай бұрын

They did disappear in the 5th century in Anatolia. They were shunned to places like Arabia, with some scholars suggesting they may have survived until around 1000 CE. There are references to Jews around that time that accepted Jesus as a prophet but also rejected mainstream Christianity.

@Toco-yp6gg

2 ай бұрын

@@atbing2425 is there any evidence that they were in Arabia during 7th century ? Like historical records rather then speculation? Like they were ebonites rather then speculation

@Toco-yp6gg

2 ай бұрын

@@atbing2425 is there any actual evidence rather than speculation? Like any of them actually existing around that time?

@atbing2425

2 ай бұрын

@@Toco-yp6gg for example the Muslim historian Muhammad al Shahrastani recounts about a Jewish group accepting Jesus as a prophet but rejecting mainstream Christianity

@Toco-yp6gg

2 ай бұрын

@@atbing2425 he is from and died and lived in khorosan (Afghanistan )

Please keep comments respectful; this video is not meant to disrespect any religious beliefs.

@Ptaku93

3 ай бұрын

on the other hand, disrespectful comments would increase this video's reach, wouldn't they?

@atbing2425

2 ай бұрын

@@Ptaku93 good point

@Ptaku93

2 ай бұрын

@@atbing2425 naah I'm joking

@WhatVincentKnows

2 ай бұрын

I didn't expect the comments on this video to be particularly open-minded, but oh man😅 kinda bums me out but I know it's a vocal minority. Great video, brother. Learned a lot from this. I'm gonna assume you watch UsefulCharts' videos too?

@atbing2425

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, him too.

Totally respectful comment sections here

@atbing2425

Ай бұрын

For sure lol

@arrivederciheheeeeee5809

Ай бұрын

@@atbing2425 wowie youre active

@atbing2425

Ай бұрын

Well I get notified about every comment

Both in some ways and in other ways neither.

God exsit without any 'man-made' religious interperitation.

BC AND AD.

@atbing2425

2 ай бұрын

Well I'm not a Christian...

@hagalhagal9989

25 күн бұрын

@@atbing2425 The calendar used is still based on the Gregorian calendar though. Saying AD and BC is a recognition of the work done by the Roman Catholic Church in this field. Maybe Neil deGrasse Tyson can say it better here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/i3inyseyhNexZs4.html

@atbing2425

24 күн бұрын

@@hagalhagal9989 this is a really interesting point, that I'm aware of. Thanks.

Islam doesn't descendants from Judaism or Christianity. Islam is the submission to the Will of God. It makes more sense that Abraham was a Muslim submitting to will of God as opposed to a Christian (follower of Christ) or Jew(member of the Tribes of Israel). Islam is universal unlike Judaism and Christianity

@TOD75

2 ай бұрын

FALSE

@IslamicMotivation-gy8wp

2 ай бұрын

@TOD75 you are entitled to your opinion but not your own facts, ignoramus. Islam is not named after a person, place or group of people, unlike all other religions

@mal7916

2 ай бұрын

Below are useful links for understanding Islam: Prophet Muhammad and Aisha's Adultery (Al-Ifk) kzread.info/dash/bejne/qYeI1dSRepzdfLA.html Dismantling Islam: Session 1 kzread.info/dash/bejne/pn99xrBpodu1qdo.html

@prophetofanu8933

2 ай бұрын

What makes someone muslim?

@IslamicMotivation-gy8wp

2 ай бұрын

@@prophetofanu8933 submission to the will of Allah and following the prophet of their time. If you look at the primitive tribes who have not been corrupted by Christian missionaries in Papua New Guinea, they were monotheistic. People are born with belief in one God, but they are corrupted by polytheism of their Christian or Hindu, etc. Parents

Idolatry, it doesn't just ignore the ten commandments it preaches Against them.

@IslamicMotivation-gy8wp

2 ай бұрын

You Christians idolatry

@Medium341

2 ай бұрын

Islam adheres to the 10 commandments. Read them (that is if you can read).

@kylewalkins5112

2 ай бұрын

@@Medium341 apostate prophet has proved on multiple occasions that the Quran violates the 10 commandments. Furthermore, he highlights how Islam itself recognizes this and avoids revealing the ten commandments because they're aware of the contradictions.

@oldschoolzone5711

2 ай бұрын

@@Medium341 Islam promotes Lying to "infidels", one of the Mortal Sins. You're LYING

Neither, it came to correct the jews and christians. God is one and all people are equal in rights and no one is superior to one another. The qur'an doesn 't copy the scientific errors in both the bible and the torah/tanakh.

@kylewalkins5112

2 ай бұрын

Instead, it directly contradicts the basic Abrahamic teachings. But your argument will say the Jews corrupted these teachings with no evidence.

@miguelvizcarrondo4320

2 ай бұрын

Islam is a fraud mark my word.

@Ibn_yahya_

2 ай бұрын

@@kylewalkins5112 abrahamic teachings? Please tell your oldest old testament manuscripts are from 200 bc. Moses lived 1500 years prior to that. Moses brought a new law . (Torah) abraham wouldn't even have known what a jew or a christian was, so please don't speak ignorant of 'abrahamic' teachings

@xyz-rk7ru

29 күн бұрын

​@@kylewalkins5112 what teachings does it contradicts, are you mistaking Christianity for islam, answer please mr. Kyle or would I say Mr. Liar

@immortalpickle3104

19 күн бұрын

You have no chain of transmission bud

from doom ; you ask me,

Descends from neither. It is fake.

@SO-kr7kq

2 ай бұрын

It's a conspiracy, have ever seen a muslim person in your life?

Islam is an amalgamation of Jewish, Christian, Pagan, elements mixed with Muhammad's imagination. He changed his religion's precepts when it suited him, by using the religious theory of abrogation. Muhammad borrowed from the other faiths.

@abduking4204

2 ай бұрын

pagan is crazy coming from a christain too which we literally have proof was influenced by roman pagan belif

@africankidd3642

27 күн бұрын

Why do you have to lie and be rude 🤦🏿‍♂️ Islam is the final revelation the same god who sent Jesus and Moses hence the similarities, it’s simple. But you are trying to go against that simple explanation by saying some unproven, complicated and far reached claims out of hatred for Islam 🤦🏿‍♂️ let us be

@user-cz9gr5wy1b

27 күн бұрын

@@africankidd3642 No, Islam is not a revelation from God. Muhammad lived in areas with Christians, Jews, and Pagans and he borrowed religious stories from them and incorporated them into Islam. He also added his own superstitions. It's odd that you say, "let us be." Muhammad commanded his followers to wage war upon non-Muslims. Muslims never let others "be." Instead they attacked, stole, enslaved, etc. Did you know that the largest black slave revolt in history took place in Iraq? There were over 250,000 black slaves forced to work for their Arab masters under brutal conditions, so much so, that they revolted and established their own rule for a short period of time before they were attacked and re-enslaved by the Arabs. Muhammad was a slaver, he did not let others be.

Islam descends from judaïsme. Why? To destroy Christianity. If you want to destroy someone without being accused for it, what will you do? You’ll find someone who acts in your name, of course without proclaiming it.

It descends from the adversary.

Islam did not come from another religion. We muslims do believe in the original Torah and Bible, but they were for the people at those times. Both books have been corrupted to some degree. We believe islam came from the same god as the jews ans the Christians. Its just the last religion that was set.

@rubenmocuta3109

2 ай бұрын

Propaganda sponsored by satan

@hagalhagal9989

25 күн бұрын

Yet the oldest Bible manuscripts do not disagree in substance with today's Bible. This is a far cry from the Koran. Aisha narrates in Sahih Bukhari of the goat that ate verses of the Koran that contained the stoning of adulterers and breastfeeding of men which today are not in the Koran/ In Sahih Bukhari we also find that Uthman burned the Korans that did not agree with his version. Today's Koran is a narration of Hafs, whose hadiths are not considered reliable because of his character.

Satan

From Catholic

From hell

@imsoapi

2 ай бұрын

Genocide supporter

Neither. Moon God. Look it up.

Yes. The same devils from Judaism and the gospels created it.

Hinduism 🕉 Father of RELIGION idealogy 😅

@AshTheGamerIsAwesome

22 күн бұрын

no