Funny, that when I actually sat down with my Bible - read it, studied it MYSELF - my pre-trib rapture "theory" simply melted away. I couldn't even fit it into Scripture! Kind of like putting a square peg in a round hole. Of course, I didn't like this at all...lol...now, I've started studying on the "endurance of the saints"...how we hold on, keep our faith & trust in the Lord during the awful days to come. This is what these people need to teach! Thanks Joel for being bold & teaching truth. Shalom🌺

@donhaddix3770

Жыл бұрын

Restrainer holy spirit removed 2 Thessalonians 2:6-7 New International Version 6 And now you know what is holding him back, so that he may be revealed at the proper time. 7 For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way. Holy spirit is in the born-again. So they have to go. Revelation 3:10 New International Version 10 Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth. tereo guard by removal. from the whole earth. ◄ 1 Thessalonians 5:9 ► New International Version For God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ. The tribulation. 1 Corinthians 15:51-54 ESV / 31 helpful votes Behold! I tell you a mystery. We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed. For this perishable body must put on the imperishable, and this mortal body must put on immortality. When the perishable puts on the imperishable, and the mortal puts on immortality, then shall come to pass the saying that is written: “Death is swallowed up in victory.” last trump of church age. Revelation 1 7 lamp-stand equal 7 churches/ages. After the rapture replaced by the 2 witnesses. Matthew 25 New International Version The Parable of the Ten Virgins 25 “At that time the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. 2 Five of them were foolish and five were wise. 3 The foolish ones took their lamps but did not take any oil with them. 4 The wise ones, however, took oil in jars along with their lamps. 5 The bridegroom was a long time in coming, and they all became drowsy and fell asleep. 6 “At midnight the cry rang out: ‘Here’s the bridegroom! Come out to meet him!’ 7 “Then all the virgins woke up and trimmed their lamps. 8 The foolish ones said to the wise, ‘Give us some of your oil; our lamps are going out.’ 9 “‘No,’ they replied, ‘there may not be enough for both us and you. Instead, go to those who sell oil and buy some for yourselves.’ 10 “But while they were on their way to buy the oil, the bridegroom arrived. The virgins who were ready went in with him to the wedding banquet. And the door was shut. 11 “Later the others also came. ‘Lord, Lord,’ they said, ‘open the door for us!’ 12 “But he replied, ‘Truly I tell you, I don’t know you.’ 13 “Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day or the hour. thief in the night. unknown time. any time other than pretrib is known.

@awake780

Жыл бұрын

To the original poster, same for me. The Bible should always be the authoritative Word on this matter, not fanciful teachings of men n

@JoelRichardson

Жыл бұрын

But sadly, they will say you no longer believe it because you've become liberal or are borderline leaving the faith.

@awake780

Жыл бұрын

@@JoelRichardson all I get back is links to websites that are written by their selected teachers. Not a single one has given me direct Biblical support. If I had a dollar for every website link I’ve been sent…

@kaykayrn1747

Жыл бұрын

@@JoelRichardson Unfortunately, you are correct & they would be wrong in this assumption. I just wonder how many of these preacher/pastors ever actually LOOK at their Bible Scriptures anymore. Most of us that listen to them automatically ASSUME that they do. For example (a little off- topic), I RARELY hear a pastor talk about Rev 12:17 or 14:12 (& many others in the NT) about guarding the commands of God AND belief of Messiah (notice the "AND")...that stirs up a hornets nest. Now we understand why so few will make it into the Kingdom of God/Heaven.

Wow! I have been examining pretrib and posttrib rapture evidence for over a year, and almost came to the conclusion that there was no pretrib rapture. Until I saw Before the Wrath last year. I bought it hook, line, and sinker because of all the otherwise sound teachers it featured. I'm SO GLAD you made this video! Your explanations make perfect sense and line up squarely with what I see in scripture. Thank you!

@airplane800

9 ай бұрын

Rapture Second Coming Translation of Believers No Translation involved The Saints go to Heaven The Saints return to the Earth The Earth is not Judged The Earth is judged Imminent Not Imminent Affects Believers only Affect all men on Earth Before the day of Wrath Concludes the day of wrath No reference to Satan Satan is bound He comes in the air He comes to the Earth He comes for His bride He comes with His bride Only the saints see Him Every eye shall see Him The tribulation (wrath) begins The Millenium begins Rapture - John 14:1-3 - I Cor 15:1-53- I Thes 4:13-18 - Roman 8:19, I Cor 1:7-8, 15: 21-23 - Phil 3:20-21 - Col 3:4 - I Thes 1:10 - I Thes 2:19 - I Thes 5:9-10 , 23 - II Thes 2:1-3 - I Tim 6:14 - Heb 9:28 - James 5:7-9 - I Peter 1:7,13 - I John 2:28 - 3:2 - Jude 21 - Rev 2:25 - Rev 3:10 Second coming - Dan 2:44-45 - Dan 7: 9-14 - Daniel 12:1-3 - Zech 14:1-15 - Mat 13:41 - Mat 24: 15-31 - Mat 26:64 - Mark 13:14-27 - Mark 14:62 - Luke 21: 25-28 - Acts 1:9-11 - Acts 3:19-21 - I Thes 3:13 - II Thes 1: 6-10, 2:8 - II Peter 3:1-14 - Jude 14-15 - Rev 1:7 - Rev 19: 11-20:6 - Rev 22:7, 12 This teaching is endorsed by Hal Lindsey, Perry Stone, John Hagee, David Jeremiah, Mark Biltz, J.D. Farah, Jimmy Evans, Jack Hibbs, Mark Hitchcock, Robert Breaker, Theo Heartsill, Skip Heitzig, Andy Woods, Rabi Schneider, Gary Sterman, Chuck Missler, and at least 100 other names I could list here.

This was a great video. Thank you for your diligence and honesty. I know it must be tough to call out people who are lying to the body of Christ. God Bless and may God's protection be over you and your family.

@alchemistkingdickinson2256

Жыл бұрын

THANKS SHARING YOUR APPRECIATION!!! TIS VERY GOOD VIDEO!!!HOW MANY ARE DECEIVED LIEING? CAN YA HELP JUST 1 FROM DARKNESS DECEPTION LIES?

@raymondschlichting6778

Жыл бұрын

Not lying. Just have a different point of view. They are still brothers and sisters.

@christincommon5496

Жыл бұрын

@@raymondschlichting6778 did you watch the video? He is clearly showing that they were lying about “new evidence”, qualifications of “experts”, as well as embellishing other “facts”. So yes, it is lying to sell movies.

@campinkate5925

Жыл бұрын

@@christincommon5496 have you seen the movie? Today, we must not trust anything at face value. I’m hoping for a Rapture but to the 3rd heaven which is Paradise but if it doesn’t come I’ll still be here looking up!!

@dawnoliver2015

Жыл бұрын

People who call others liars so easily I find difficult to comprehend. What about just being wrong or a different view?

The thing that bothers me is the lengths they go to to try and prove pre tribulation, it’s almost fervent. Something stinks.

Wow, what an astonishing video! I was pre-trib for several years but it never made sense to have 2 1/2 comings of Jesus. I am grieved for our Christian brothers and sisters who still think this way. I always say that regardless who is right, we need to be prepared to face whatever may come our way and make the decision today to stand firm in Yeshua to the very end. ✝️

@mickraybam6012

Жыл бұрын

No pretribbers think there are 2.5 comings.

@airplane800

9 ай бұрын

Rapture Second Coming Translation of Believers No Translation involved The Saints go to Heaven The Saints return to the Earth The Earth is not Judged The Earth is judged Imminent Not Imminent Affects Believers only Affect all men on Earth Before the day of Wrath Concludes the day of wrath No reference to Satan Satan is bound He comes in the air He comes to the Earth He comes for His bride He comes with His bride Only the saints see Him Every eye shall see Him The tribulation (wrath) begins The Millenium begins Rapture - John 14:1-3 - I Cor 15:1-53- I Thes 4:13-18 - Roman 8:19, I Cor 1:7-8, 15: 21-23 - Phil 3:20-21 - Col 3:4 - I Thes 1:10 - I Thes 2:19 - I Thes 5:9-10 , 23 - II Thes 2:1-3 - I Tim 6:14 - Heb 9:28 - James 5:7-9 - I Peter 1:7,13 - I John 2:28 - 3:2 - Jude 21 - Rev 2:25 - Rev 3:10 Second coming - Dan 2:44-45 - Dan 7: 9-14 - Daniel 12:1-3 - Zech 14:1-15 - Mat 13:41 - Mat 24: 15-31 - Mat 26:64 - Mark 13:14-27 - Mark 14:62 - Luke 21: 25-28 - Acts 1:9-11 - Acts 3:19-21 - I Thes 3:13 - II Thes 1: 6-10, 2:8 - II Peter 3:1-14 - Jude 14-15 - Rev 1:7 - Rev 19: 11-20:6 - Rev 22:7, 12 This teaching is endorsed by Hal Lindsey, Perry Stone, John Hagee, David Jeremiah, Mark Biltz, J.D. Farah, Jimmy Evans, Jack Hibbs, Mark Hitchcock, Robert Breaker, Theo Heartsill, Skip Heitzig, Andy Woods, Rabi Schneider, Gary Sterman, Chuck Missler, and at least 100 other names I could list here.

@toddott633

8 ай бұрын

​@@mickraybam6012 Of course they do. His first and second coming and the rapture, a partial coming where He comes partway, then goes back to heaven.

@mickraybam6012

8 ай бұрын

@@toddott633 strawman.

@mickraybam6012

8 ай бұрын

@@toddott633 the rapture Jesus doe not step on earth…

About 15 yrs ago, we went to a CC. I signed up to teach in the children's ministry and was asked to join the music ministry. When I vocalized I thought we were going through the tribulation, I was not allowed to participate. I always felt like they thought I wasn't saved. All i would say is if you guys are right, i won't argue,but they should prepare in case they were wrong. I bought the movie you are talking about to see what new evidence would prove me wrong.....mm...like you, though it is an emotional movie, it contradicts the Word. I still like the teachers in the movie, but hope they quit looking at those of us who disagree as enemies.

@JoelRichardson

Жыл бұрын

They wouldn't let you do children's ministry because you are not pre-trib?? Yet if I simply talk about it, I am the one allegedly being "divisive."

@spinderellas6272

Жыл бұрын

@@JoelRichardson I was a bit taken back. I told them I wasn't going to teach kids about eschatology, just about Jesus,His goodness and salvation He provided. Nope,not good enough.... ugh. Thank you for clarification of things in the movie. It does leave one scratching their heads and questioning what one believes in.

@louispick2668

Жыл бұрын

yes, I’ve been in Calvary chapel for 27 years and they have their own book called the cavalry distinctives to tell you what they believe and the pre-tribulation rapture is in that book.. even though I like the way they study the Bible line by line, chapter by chapter I do disagree with the pre-tribulation teaching, and I’ve been a worship leader in the churches for a long time in town, but at the particular church that I am at currently they won’t let me get involved either because I don’t hold to the pre-tribulation position..

@JoelRichardson

Жыл бұрын

@@louispick2668 Not allowed to worship because you see the timing of the rapture differently? That's just shocking to me.

@louispick2668

Жыл бұрын

@@JoelRichardson well, I am well-known around town as far as Worship is concerned, I’ve played on multiple Calvary Chapel, Worship Teams and I’ve been at the church now for a year and our pastor found out that I am post TRIB and is not utilizing me in any area in our church currently and I’ve been there a year.. I know for a fact they will not allow anyone to teach that halls to a different position even though I think it’s healthy to teach the congregation all positions and let them make up their minds on secondary issues

I grew up being taught pre-rein, but changed my stance as I became an adult and started teaching my children. As the pre-trib push began to ramp up on YT during Covid I started praying about it and testing my stance again to be sure I was solid in it. I am beginning to believe that Luke chapter 21 and verse 8, may just be our beloved’s warning to us about this doctrine. Luke 21:8 8 And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.

@brockmitchell3989

3 ай бұрын

Amen. ❤

The passage in the Bible that turned me from Pre-trib to "Not Pre-trib," was the parable of the wheat and tares.

@awake780

Жыл бұрын

Couldn’t agree more. Made me wonder who will be “left behind.” And it may not be who pre-tribbers think it is.

@droqueplot

Жыл бұрын

And “in the days of Noah” who was taken and who was left? Exactly…the righteous are left!

@awake780

Жыл бұрын

@@droqueplot was Noah removed or preserved through the flood? Exactly. He and his family were preserved.

@Littleangel_-jp4xb

Жыл бұрын

I was just explaining that to someone on either here or another channel. The tares are gathered and burned first. The wheat is tucked away safely afterwards in the barn. I find myself asking the Lord for patience daily trying to minister to others who still hold pre-trib misconceptions.

@Sindi63084

Жыл бұрын

Mine was Rev 19 where the bride is ready and the marriage supper is taking place.

I’m so sad after watching this. I just recently came back to the Lord & just started learning about the rapture. I actually know JD Farag & have attended his church & watched his sermons online… After watching a bunch of pre-trib videos from Amir, Jack & Skip etc. I was really upset because the sentiment was “the tribulation is going to be awful but don’t worry bc we won’t be here, praise God!” But all I could think was: WHAT ABOUT EVERYONE ELSE?!? If we really are this close to being raptured shouldn’t we be hearing messages expressing the urgency to get out& spread the gospel as much ad possible?!??… Then I heard there were other people who believed in a post-trib rapture which made more sense to me but I wasn’t sure what was the truth. I had thought to email JD with the idea that he might consider telling people they should prepare “just in case” because if he was wrong, people wouldn’t be ready to go through the tribulation or at worse, would lose their faith. Seeing what he said in the film & having you explain how deceptive the film is, I feel like crying. It’s so incredibly sad to me how many people are being misled. I know JD has a good heart & I can’t imagine him purposely deceiving anyone but the result is the same 😢

@RachelNichols-writer

10 ай бұрын

Yes. If a bunch of people get saved during the Great Tribulation who will lead them to Christ? I guess the pre tribbers believe the Gideon Bibles combined with all the empty clothes and warnings they've posted online will be enough to lead to mass revival.

@airplane800

9 ай бұрын

Rapture Second Coming Translation of Believers No Translation involved The Saints go to Heaven The Saints return to the Earth The Earth is not Judged The Earth is judged Imminent Not Imminent Affects Believers only Affect all men on Earth Before the day of Wrath Concludes the day of wrath No reference to Satan Satan is bound He comes in the air He comes to the Earth He comes for His bride He comes with His bride Only the saints see Him Every eye shall see Him The tribulation (wrath) begins The Millenium begins Rapture - John 14:1-3 - I Cor 15:1-53- I Thes 4:13-18 - Roman 8:19, I Cor 1:7-8, 15: 21-23 - Phil 3:20-21 - Col 3:4 - I Thes 1:10 - I Thes 2:19 - I Thes 5:9-10 , 23 - II Thes 2:1-3 - I Tim 6:14 - Heb 9:28 - James 5:7-9 - I Peter 1:7,13 - I John 2:28 - 3:2 - Jude 21 - Rev 2:25 - Rev 3:10 Second coming - Dan 2:44-45 - Dan 7: 9-14 - Daniel 12:1-3 - Zech 14:1-15 - Mat 13:41 - Mat 24: 15-31 - Mat 26:64 - Mark 13:14-27 - Mark 14:62 - Luke 21: 25-28 - Acts 1:9-11 - Acts 3:19-21 - I Thes 3:13 - II Thes 1: 6-10, 2:8 - II Peter 3:1-14 - Jude 14-15 - Rev 1:7 - Rev 19: 11-20:6 - Rev 22:7, 12 This teaching is endorsed by Hal Lindsey, Perry Stone, John Hagee, David Jeremiah, Mark Biltz, J.D. Farah, Jimmy Evans, Jack Hibbs, Mark Hitchcock, Robert Breaker, Theo Heartsill, Skip Heitzig, Andy Woods, Rabi Schneider, Gary Sterman, Chuck Missler, and at least 100 other names I could list here.

@brandonhumbertson7002

9 ай бұрын

He believes today is the day. He should know better than to set a date. kzread.info/dash/bejne/dYR1o5uIlMyTfNo.htmlsi=yIOGkv1j2-ZL_Ruo

@user-mh9rs9ti5h

7 ай бұрын

APEX TO THE GOSPELS 1JOHN 5;16 AN ENIGMA UNTIL NOW, ALL SIN IS SIN BUT THERE IS A SIN UNTO DEATH, I'D HAVE YOU NOT ASK OF THIS. NOT ABIDING IN LOVE WITH ONE ANOTHER, OR WE QUENCH THE HOLY SPIRIT, THUS NO OIL. IF GOD IS THE SAME YESTERDAY TODAY AND FOREVER, THEN JEREMIAH 7, PROVES THAT THE ABORTIONIST, DEMOCRATIC BELIEVERS IDOLATORS AND THE NARCISSIST OPPRESSORS ALL ARE TRUE OXYMORONS. 1JOHN 4, GOD IS LOVE AND WE MUST HAVE LOVE FOR ONE ANOTHER OR WE HAVE NO RELATIONSHIP WITH CHRIST. LUKE 13;3 WITHOUT REPENTANCE WE SHALL ALL PERISH. JEREMIAH 2:19 THEY HAVE NO FEAR OF THE LORD IN THEM, FEAR OF THE LORD IS THE BEGINNING OF WISDOM. I AM A EAGLE PROPHET OF THE TRIBE OF SIMEON.

@Keepitoriginalministry

6 ай бұрын

I understand your frustration. I went through the same process

I so look forward to what you have to say about Revelation 21:9 ..."I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife." In my 22 years as a follower of Jesus I've never heard anyone even come close to talking about "the bride, the Lamb's wife" It's wonderful to read through the comments and see people that are reading and studying the Bible for themselves and how they are being lead to the truth! Praise the LORD!!

❤Excellent 👍🏼 I lost count of the amount of times I get comments on my videos about how ‘don’t you know, Sonia, that the Jewish Wedding ceremony is a shadow and type of the timing of the rapture?!’ I’m like, what has this Jewish tradition not mentioned in the bible, got anything to do with scripture? Nothing

The amazing thing that Troubles me with the Pre Trib Fable is this: They make a great Deal about the Jewish Wedding of a Jewish Man and a Jewish Wife (But) they then go and Remove the Jew from the Wedding and make it a Gentile Wife and the Jewish King having the Wedding! The Truth is that Jesus has made One New Man! Jew and Gentile together and when Jesus Comes He will be Coming for the Jew and Gentile, One Bride! Jesus came the First Time and the Jewish Bride was not ready but when Jesus Comes again He will come and the Bride being Jew and Gentile will be ready! Jesus made it Clear to the Apostles that He will not Partake of the Cup again until the Jews cry out Blessed is He that Comes in the Name of the Lord! When Jesus Comes, the Resurrection will take place of both Jew and Gentile and then the Marriage Supper will happen!

@deborahhowlett6807

Жыл бұрын

@@MrThatWatchman Jesus only called it tribulation, he never called it God’s wrath. Otherwise he would have said… 21 For then shall be “WRATH” such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. Or… 29 Immediately after the “WRATH” of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

@jamesfriend481

Жыл бұрын

Anyone who says to put down your Bible should be ignored.

If people would allow the Holy Spirit to teach them instead of men, it would clear up a whole lotta confusion and false doctrine.

I have to say that I greatly appreciate the exegetical and expository approach in each of these videos in this series dealing with the pretrib rapture error. Such honesty in handling the written Word of God is very refreshing. I have seen too many Christians using eisegesis in their handling of God's holy Word. In fact I used to be one of those type people many years ago. Thank you FAI and all of you that made these videos. I am sharing them with my family to help open their eyes.

It's truly amazing and I even bought the movie. I'm very greatful for your ministry. I want to know Jesus and and be ready for whatever comes

Revelation 19:7 This is when someone announces the wedding of the Lamb has come and the bride has made herself ready. The phrase no one know except to the Father. Well whoever said that was making it known to all! It's not a surprise wedding, that's absurd. Thanks for sharing. I am surrounded with those that take their beliefs from movies and whatever is popular in the church. It is troubling.

Thank you Joel. Im still pre-trib but will continue to study. Regardless im blessed to have you as a brother and continue to learn from all you give us

@airplane800

9 ай бұрын

Rapture Second Coming Translation of Believers No Translation involved The Saints go to Heaven The Saints return to the Earth The Earth is not Judged The Earth is judged Imminent Not Imminent Affects Believers only Affect all men on Earth Before the day of Wrath Concludes the day of wrath No reference to Satan Satan is bound He comes in the air He comes to the Earth He comes for His bride He comes with His bride Only the saints see Him Every eye shall see Him The tribulation (wrath) begins The Millenium begins Rapture - John 14:1-3 - I Cor 15:1-53- I Thes 4:13-18 - Roman 8:19, I Cor 1:7-8, 15: 21-23 - Phil 3:20-21 - Col 3:4 - I Thes 1:10 - I Thes 2:19 - I Thes 5:9-10 , 23 - II Thes 2:1-3 - I Tim 6:14 - Heb 9:28 - James 5:7-9 - I Peter 1:7,13 - I John 2:28 - 3:2 - Jude 21 - Rev 2:25 - Rev 3:10 Second coming - Dan 2:44-45 - Dan 7: 9-14 - Daniel 12:1-3 - Zech 14:1-15 - Mat 13:41 - Mat 24: 15-31 - Mat 26:64 - Mark 13:14-27 - Mark 14:62 - Luke 21: 25-28 - Acts 1:9-11 - Acts 3:19-21 - I Thes 3:13 - II Thes 1: 6-10, 2:8 - II Peter 3:1-14 - Jude 14-15 - Rev 1:7 - Rev 19: 11-20:6 - Rev 22:7, 12 This teaching is endorsed by Hal Lindsey, Perry Stone, John Hagee, David Jeremiah, Mark Biltz, J.D. Farah, Jimmy Evans, Jack Hibbs, Mark Hitchcock, Robert Breaker, Theo Heartsill, Skip Heitzig, Andy Woods, Rabi Schneider, Gary Sterman, Chuck Missler, and at least 100 other names I could list here.

Thank you for this study. I've been carefully following it from the beginning primarily so I have the right foundation to respond to those I find held captive to this deception and your careful presentation has given me much to consider. However, this video left me in tears to see such deception being so openly propagated by those considered to be "shepherds". It gave a new (deeper) meaning to that Scripture about "how even the very elect will be deceived". I share your burden for all those that will have to enter into tribulation fully unprepared to be overcomers. Thanks again and Shalom!!

i pray for pre and plan for post.

For many years, I believed in a pre-trib rapture as all the churches I went to taught. Last year in February, Adonai challenged me on several of my beliefs. I was truly and thoroughly shaken to my core(been saved over 50 years). The Lord challenged me on the Sabbath being kept holy. I had a giggle and answered rather facetiously that I wasn't a Jew... Thinking that was the end of that conversation, or I was mistaken about my parentage. But no, it wasn't that at all. He asked me when did He institute the Sabbath? I said 7th day of creation... He simply said.... How many people were on the earth, I said 2....He said which one was the Jew? Since then, I've questioned everything that I just accepted as being true because it was taught in the churches. I now make sure everything I read is filtered through the Holy Spirit and prayer. I check first mention, second mention and final mention to try and get the real essence of what Yah is intending us to know 🙌📜👑🙌

@JacquelineHahn1

Жыл бұрын

Oh my how I love our Lord’s sense of humour that cuts to the core of the subject “which one was the Jew” gave me a belly laugh, I too have felt led to enjoy the gift of the Sabbath on the sabbath where ever possible, but understand this that some are unable to keep Sabbath through the ages such as slaves, so the Sabbath is not fully binding on the gentile but if there is nothing preventing you from keeping it then you shoul

@scott596

6 ай бұрын

Yes, and No One keeps the Sabbath or the Law of God and Jesus Christ. So it's a great thing We are Saved the Same Way Abraham Was Saved by Faith in Jesus Christ and the Promise of God and Jesus Christ ! What is the Promise of God and Jesus Christ to Abraham ? God Bless you

@scott596

6 ай бұрын

​​​@@JacquelineHahn1No One has ever kept the Sabbath Day Holy, and No One has ever kept the Law of God and Jesus Christ, ! God Gave the Law as a Curse to bring you to Faith in Jesus Christ and the Promise of God and Jesus Christ to Abraham ! Those Who believe Abraham are the Seed of Abraham, By Faith Abraham Was Saved, By Faith We are Saved By Faith We are the Seed of Abraham and the Promise of God and Jesus Christ. By Faith We are the Son's of God ! The Law has Never Saved anyone and Never will Save anyone the Law only Brings Death, the Spirit Gives Life, and Life Eternal Salvation through Faith in Jesus Christ and the Promise of God and Jesus Christ to Abraham ! The only person to have Ever kept the Sabbath Day Holy and kept the Law of God and Jesus Christ is the Son of God Jesus Christ Himself ! Doesn't hurt to try to

Thank you so much for this, Joel. It’s extremely sad that this film was ever made. Thank you for your careful application of the Matthew 18 principles. It can’t have been easy. God bless you, Amy and your children. 🙏

One of my fave online teachers (Mike Winger) comes from a CC background, but what I love is that he tries to see what the Bible says even if it conflicts with CC teachings. He even graciously spent an episode digging into the fact that Chuck Smith had actually made a big error in predicting when he thought the rapture would be. I'll be interested to see where he lands if/when he studies this in depth.

@jimwest5027

3 ай бұрын

I like Mike Winger too, even tho' he's preTrib. But he's honest and open and says we should hold our end times beliefs loosely, bc the bible is not definite about any end times doctrine.

@Reffinej84

3 ай бұрын

@@jimwest5027 I don't believe he is actually pre-trib.. From what I've listened to, he has yet to take a stance as he hasn't studied those specifics yet. He does have a couple of videos about end times views -it's probably in at least one of those that this comes up.

I'm really glad for this ministry and for addressing this issue. I used to study under Chuck Missler (a brother with the Lord now, but whom I still love), and he used to make this claim (the pre-trib view of the Galilean wedding). Upon doing some digging, CM gave credit to Marv Rosenthal for this teaching. So, I reached out to Marv Rosenthal (when he was still alive), but he and his ministry never responded. Rosenthal was pretrib before changing over to a pre-wrath view and became one of the forerunners for the Prewrath view -- so, I still appreciate their teachings today. Still, I noticed that once he swtiched his eschatological view, he no longer taught the Galiliean wedding view. I just wish he would have at least owned up to it and explained how it was wrong.

Once again a thorough exposition. Thanks again Joel.

@pattydalin4972

Жыл бұрын

Thorough? Chapter and verse? Original languages? Historical and geographical context? Hummm...

Thank you Joel for this video and the many others. This series is extremely helpful so we can have answers to our friends in the pre trib camp. God bless you and your family greatly...🙏👏👏

@Pre-Tribulation

Жыл бұрын

Anyone preaching anything other than Pre-Tribulation Rapture, is preaching NEW AGE BULLLLLLLLCRAP!

Thank you for your honest non-judgmental explanation to the rapture doctrine. I always learn more about our Lord with your videos. Thank you brother Joel!

Profoundly enlightening, like usual...but this is even alarming! Many thanks Joel, for being a Watchman for the body of Christ!! Like a lighthouse to avoid shipwreck, providing safe passage in such turbulent and disturbing times. I too, have been subject to misinformation in the past, but what is most disturbing is how it has crept into the church, & many freely take it all in...& even become defensive/combative about it. Please God have Mercy on these who think they are standing on the Rock when everything turns to shifting sand, and we/they aren't just raptured outta here. My fear is a great falling away. Holy Spirit come, lead us in all Truth. Bend our hearts toward Jesus like never before, for He Is the Only Way! Amen.

Thanks Joel. I think it's great what FAI are doing to refute pretrib rapture. I do listen to Jan M, etc occasionally. They are very good at keeping up to date with end time stuff, however, it is always on the basis of pretrib. It's a shame that not more churches prepare their people for end time. It appears to me that not many think that the end is near. Whether it's within the next 10 years or 50 years makes no difference, we are all in need of encouragement to persevere and not keep being told about love and grace, though they are important. We need the truth because there's so little of it around. Hard times are here. It's knocking at the door!

@JoelRichardson

Жыл бұрын

I've been on her show a couple times. She is a good sister.

@Strongtower

Жыл бұрын

Becareful listening to teachers that "keep you up to date with end time stuff". There have been many prophecy books and conferences. They always have to write another book and put on another conference because their predictions don't come true. I went to a prophecy conference with Amir, Jack Hibbs and Jan Markel once. Nothing they said at that conference came true and that was just a year and a half ago. They sold lots of merchandise and made money on the conference but nothing that was said ended up coming true. Please be careful listening to teachers like that. I've listened to sermon recordings that are 50+ years old and the preacher mentions they are in the last days and they don't think America has much time left. It's the same story today. The truth is that no one knows when the end is. It could be in the next 10 years or it could be 500 years. Don't make the mistake I did, focus on the Bible and not end times teachers.

@regine3147

Жыл бұрын

@StrongTower thank you. I am aware of that. I guess what I really would like to see more of is teaching that is towards holiness and perseverance with the thought that we are in birth pangs (which I personally beehive we are). We must always be prepared. I still listen to some of these people as you can pick up 'sign posts' amongst them. I know they market what they believe is God's word. Probably 90% of the church does that. Pity. Can't remember Jesus marketing his stuff or charging people to be fed loaves and fishes or attending the sermon on the Mount. I get what you're saying. You're right. But i like to be aware of even the rubbish that's out there. Sorting through it is not always easy though. Tku.

Hi Joel, I enjoy your teachings! FAI is amazing 🤩

@alchemistkingdickinson2256

Жыл бұрын

yes they are;)))

I must admit that I have heard seemingly strong arguments for both pre and post tribulation rapture. It almost seems that the Lord not only doesn’t want me to know the day or hour, he doesn’t want me to know the year either. That said I want to thank you sir for recognizing pretribers as brothers and sisters. I see too many Christians casting insults at those who have an opposing understanding. Thank you. ( by the way I lean much more towards the post tribulation idea)

The Israelites saw the wrath of God on the wicked and went through much tribulation on their way to the promised land. At the same time, they saw the provision and protections of God. Think we're any different? Pick up your cross and follow Jesus.

No man is even able to enter the temple UNTIL the plagues are fulfilled. The tribulation is not the wrath of God or Jesus would have called it that. He called it TRIBULATION, not WRATH. We are meeting the Lord in the air before his WRATH is poured out on all the wicked, those that worship the beast, take his mark or number of his name, those that come against Jerusalem, and those that destroy the earth. Revelation 15: 8 And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled. No one is saved during these plagues. So, no “left behind tribulation saints”.

I like this video a lot. There is a real thirst for the Truth here. It strikes me that those who are promoting the film and the Pre-Tribulation Rapture, making these claims are like those mentioned in Second Peter 2:18 "For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error." They count on people simply believing what they say. They want people to be like sheep, just accepting. What they don't want is those who question, and who ask them to substantiate their claims.

Amir also talks about the Holy Spirit and the Church being the Restrainer as “proof” for a pre-tribulation rapture. The Holy Spirit and The Church are not the Restrainer. 🤦🏾‍♀️

@donhaddix3770

Жыл бұрын

holy spirit, yes, church, no.

@karriesaunders8597

Жыл бұрын

​@@donhaddix3770 hand of God maybe. I don't see much of the church equipped to hold anything back at this point.

@donhaddix3770

Жыл бұрын

@@karriesaunders8597 agree.

@donhaddix3770

Жыл бұрын

@Tim James *Oh boy, your covering a lot of territory that I have done years of studying on. I'll try to help. 2 Thes 2:3, "...for that day will not come until (1) the rebellion occurs The rebellion is what we call the following way or the time of apostasy. That is today. *The man of lawlessness is the Antichrist who will come on the world scene at the beginning of the Day of the Lord. This Day, sometimes called the “end times,” First look at who is at work in the false Trinity. Revelation 16:13 Then I saw three impure spirits that looked like frogs; they came out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet. Without going into tons of detail I believe the AC is possessed by the demon that possessed Alexander the great, not Satan. The day of the Lord is not a 24 hour day, it is a period of time, specifically from the rapture to the destruction of the heavens and the earth. and (2) the man of lawlessness is revealed,..." Per the 70th week of Daniel that occurs at the rapture when the AC makes a seven-year treaty with many. 2 Thes 2:7, "...but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he (Who is "he"?) is taken out of the way." Only God has the power to restrain the lawlessness that is upon the whole earth, even now. So it has to be the Holy Spirit. Since the Holy Spirit indwells the born again they have to go as well. Plus God is not subject is sends to his wrath. Revelation 3:10 makes it quite clear we will not be here. The false prophet, who I believe to be the Pope, is a the demon that rises out of the pit. Satan indwells the AOD, bringing it to what appears to be a miracle of life when the AC enters the Temple and sits on the throne of God. So the AC is a human in the EU that is possessed by a demon and rises out of the sea of population of the EU. He is already here. Like Alexander he will pull the nations of the EU to gather into his empire, which is clearly declared in the mystery Babylon statue of Daniel. The false prophet demon will rise out of the pit mid tribulation. Satan is cast down from heaven mid tribulation, tries to destroy Israel, and enters the AOD and forces people to accept the AC mark or die. The mark which I believe will be a computer chip. That should cover the very basic key elements of this discussion.

@donhaddix3770

Жыл бұрын

@Tim James Tereo tay-reh'-o Verb NAS Word Usage - Total: 71 to attend to carefully, take care of to guard metaph. to keep, one in the state in which he is to observe to reserve: to undergo something ek or ex: from, from out of Original Word: ἐκ, ἐξ Part of Speech: Preposition Transliteration: ek or ex Phonetic Spelling: (ek) Definition: from, from out of Usage: from out, out from among, from, suggesting from the interior outwards. 10 Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the ---------------whole world---------------------- to test the ------------------------inhabitants of the earth.----------------------------

Thank you for exposing this! 💯

Thanks again Joel. Wonderful exposition.

What does Jesus say? When the sun, moon and stars lose their light, overcomers will look up and see the Son coming back in the glory of His Father! The resurrection will take place after the six seal is open by the Lamb of God

Thank you, Joel, for doing the heavy, lifting; going into all of the information, historical and textual, as well as into the apocrypha. Frankly, I don’t know how you do it. I just tell people that I will not entertain any extra biblical sources with regards to interpretation of end times. But you seem to have much more patience than I. God bless you, Jonathan Woodward.

Great job Joel. Thank you so much for your honest berean style teaching. It really is very disturbing that ministers would dare to do this, to lie and mislead the Lords precious sheep. This was a tough one for you I know, but, it needed saying and your rewards in heaven will be great. May God bless you and protect you. Maranatha.

I Love FAI Studios. Youre a God send. I watched Days of Noah parts 1 -3 last week. Brilliant 👍

Good job Joel. Appreciate your work. 👍

Another excellent expose. The pre tribulation teachers are really grasping at straws. They are so desperate to prove their theory, they are making themselves to be fools.

@airplane800

9 ай бұрын

Rapture Second Coming Translation of Believers No Translation involved The Saints go to Heaven The Saints return to the Earth The Earth is not Judged The Earth is judged Imminent Not Imminent Affects Believers only Affect all men on Earth Before the day of Wrath Concludes the day of wrath No reference to Satan Satan is bound He comes in the air He comes to the Earth He comes for His bride He comes with His bride Only the saints see Him Every eye shall see Him The tribulation (wrath) begins The Millenium begins Rapture - John 14:1-3 - I Cor 15:1-53- I Thes 4:13-18 - Roman 8:19, I Cor 1:7-8, 15: 21-23 - Phil 3:20-21 - Col 3:4 - I Thes 1:10 - I Thes 2:19 - I Thes 5:9-10 , 23 - II Thes 2:1-3 - I Tim 6:14 - Heb 9:28 - James 5:7-9 - I Peter 1:7,13 - I John 2:28 - 3:2 - Jude 21 - Rev 2:25 - Rev 3:10 Second coming - Dan 2:44-45 - Dan 7: 9-14 - Daniel 12:1-3 - Zech 14:1-15 - Mat 13:41 - Mat 24: 15-31 - Mat 26:64 - Mark 13:14-27 - Mark 14:62 - Luke 21: 25-28 - Acts 1:9-11 - Acts 3:19-21 - I Thes 3:13 - II Thes 1: 6-10, 2:8 - II Peter 3:1-14 - Jude 14-15 - Rev 1:7 - Rev 19: 11-20:6 - Rev 22:7, 12 This teaching is endorsed by Hal Lindsey, Perry Stone, John Hagee, David Jeremiah, Mark Biltz, J.D. Farah, Jimmy Evans, Jack Hibbs, Mark Hitchcock, Robert Breaker, Theo Heartsill, Skip Heitzig, Andy Woods, Rabi Schneider, Gary Sterman, Chuck Missler, and at least 100 other names I could list here.

@mickraybam6012

6 ай бұрын

Do the math. Then ask… Doesn’t the Antichrist kill everyone who doesn’t take the mark?

Sorry, but I kind of disagree with you. As someone who studies and haven't committed to what I believe on the timing of the rapture (pre,mid or post) just listening to this video I can come up with a few scriptures that disagree with some of your points. If I remember when I'm feeling better and over this virus I will post those scriptures for whoever wants them.

@elijones487

Жыл бұрын

yes be good if you could put these up.

The notes for this video are not here or on the app. It brings up the notes for video 10

I'm struggling to find the emails that is refered to in this video. Where can I find them please?

Interesting in one of the clips you played he lays out the timeline as, “rapture, tribulation, wrath…” so he admits that wrath comes after the tribulation. Great due diligence, Joel! These kinds of resources help a lot when trying to speak to my pre-trib family in a loving way. My mom in particular has followed Jan Markell and the pastors she endorses for years. Dr. Andy Woods is another very convincing pretrib pastor, was an attorney, who she follows and uses their teachings instead of the Gospel when speaking to me.

@Keepitoriginalministry

6 ай бұрын

Timestamp please!! 🙏

The part about how only the Groom's father knew when the wedding was to take place (and how convenient that would be for the Pre-Tribulation Rapture theory!) is very similar to how certain people have tried to say that the story of Jesus was taken from the pagan story of Horus, saying that Horus came back from the dead, and he had twelve disciples. First time i heard that, I said, "I'm pretty damn familiar with Egyptian mythology, and this is the first time I've heard that!" It's nothing more than people, with a certain agenda, flat out making things up, counting on people's ignorance and unwillingness to question and challenge them.

I asked my cousin about the video and she has a PhD in Jewish poetry and works at the university of Jerusalem and she said the Jewish wedding custom rapture is fake!

Thank you so much Joel Richardson for teaching the truth. Its time for the truth to be preached and heard. Very good series. May the Lord bless you and protect you and your family.

I dont know that I ever fully believed the pre-trib thing. My pastors have always preached it and I nodded in agreement...until I started studying it myself 😮 But I do still love me some left behind movies!😂 The theatrics are exciting

Thank you for bringing this up. It’s always been a point of contention for myself having been in Calvary Chapel many years ago. Jesus in Rev is found worthy to receive the scrolls having been the lamb who’s suffered since the foundation. The wedding is the culmination and because of this humanity also becomes married. He’s the 2nd Adam. You can see this marriage in Jeremiah 31 talking about the new Adam and the Hebrew says ‘ a man will be encircled by a woman’ The Jewish scholars and rabbis have struggled to interpret that passage and that’s the best they can come up with. You could say it’s the HS only poured out without measure on him. He described it too with that river of water within and the comforter in John. He earned this himself by passing the test pleasing god before that dove landed. So I’m Rev, you see this again. You can also see it in Isa 53 where you see multiple deaths and more than just one lifetime. He returns and is again shunned and exiled and again led away through judgement and oppression but in this last incarnation he has children and lives a long life. And you’re right this all takes place on earth. I personally don’t believe in the infallibility of Paul and his interpretation of Daniel’s ‘clouds’ being literal and this is what’s causing a lot of confusion. Nothing else in Daniel is literal and clouds associated with god or Moses meant the presence of god. So when Jesus appears, he will already be married because of what he’s suffered in his last incarnation. That sign of the Virgin says he was born naturally and this is going to be a problem for Christians. You simply can’t celebrate that wedding until that’s acknowledged because it’s the key to you yourself becoming married and receiving the HS without measure. I appreciate your honesty and though we don’t agree, let’s reason together. I’m not your enemy for speaking truth.

The last supper was the Fast of the Firstborn that takes place the meal before the Passover, if the last supper was the Passover, then no one could have been outside after sundown until morning, just like the Passover… The priests even refuse to go into Pilots home for that part of the trial they put Jesus through, so that they would not be “defiled” and then have to miss the Passover… Christ turn a yearly meal to commemorate all the firstborns saved by the blood of the lamb, into a weekly rededication and remembrance of the blood of Christ that saved us all… Christ is the lamb that saved us all

thanks, millions. great video.

If the will prepare for you, I have seen how God has given me things I needed for battle during times in y life. We can look back and see how God put things in our life. God will set us up to be successful, we will not prep.

The movie is Pre Trib Propaganda….to say the least…….add this movie to the Evacuation manual

MY GOODNESS GRACIOUS. I purchased that film and was quite disappointed when I watched it after the same previews and interviews you showed that hyped up the content. Still was not impressed when I watched it a 2nd time. Couldn't really put my finger on it. But again, Thank God for your diligence and faithfulness and ability to clarify these things. Dear brother Joel, I hope that you are encouraged by this comment 📖🕯🕊😇👍🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 💦💦 washing 🦶🦶 feet

@JoelRichardson

Жыл бұрын

Blessings brother.

Thanks brother!

One of the biggest mistakes that is made is the idea that the Church is Christ's Bride. But the Bride of the Lamb is distinctly explained to be the city of New Jerusalem.

Because thou hast kept the word of My patience, I will also keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world to try them that dwell upon the earth.

You mentioned several times the emails are posted that we may read them. Is there a link to those? Thank you.

@JoelRichardson

Жыл бұрын

joelstrumpet.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/Before-the-Wrath-Exchange-3.pdf

What’s your website to read the emails?

@Cara96

Жыл бұрын

joelstrumpet.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/Before-the-Wrath-Exchange-3.pdf

@JoelRichardson

Жыл бұрын

joelstrumpet.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/Before-the-Wrath-Exchange-3.pdf

The pre-trib / mid-trib / post-trib rapture debate is based on the concept of a futuristic 70th week of Daniel, but that is a deception to fool the end times saints. The 70th week of Daniel 9 prophecy foretold when Messiah would appear to carry out His ministry, and when (in the middle of the 70th week) He would confirm the everlasting covenant (that was mentioned in Daniel 9:4) with His blood as the Passover Lamb, to atone for our sins. It's not about the end times or the antichrist.

@perfectionnotallowed6093

Жыл бұрын

Exactly!

@EndTimesDeceptions

Жыл бұрын

@@perfectionnotallowed6093 praise our Heavenly Father that you have eyes to see, for this deception has misled many people!

@JoelRichardson

Жыл бұрын

Nope.

@kenfeliz1

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! What gives us the right to take a prophesy and separate a piece of it and put it in some distant future. The law of Hermeneutics requires us to find an example of this is biblical history. Where is the precedent for this?!!!

@Cara96

Жыл бұрын

So the New Covenant was only for 7 years? 🧐

Pre-trib is like a cult. You have to believe what they say over what the Scriptures say.

@Littleangel_-jp4xb

Жыл бұрын

Yes! And these "left behind" letters to family and "rapture kits." Have you heard of these? What in the world? What kind of Christ-filled person writes an "I told you so" letter of arrogance to their own families and friends after "disappearing?" How is a true Christ filled evangelist going around saying, "because my faith is stronger than yours, here ya go. I'm not sticking around for this. Good Luck!" 🥹🤦‍♀

@michellebehr7669

Жыл бұрын

@@Littleangel_-jp4xb The only way to convince people the teachers were false is by experiencing the worst time mankind will ever have on the face of the earth unprepared and unaware. By then those letters they told the flock to write will seem like a sick joke played by the ones they trusted the most. At the moment of truth what will most Christians do? Is this the falling away/abandonment of faith the Bible speaks of? The scary part is how they told them apostasy means rapture. That's twisted and cruel! Thry're being set up. I pity these people. May God have mercy.

Thank you. I appreciate you. I pray that the millions of people that believe in Pre-tribulation Rapture will come to know that they are being deceived. Maranatha!

Great job Joel. Very well presented. I'm not sure why these pre-tribbers are so adamant. Is it pride, or is it fear? I will make the obvious comment that there is not a mother alive who does not want in on the planning of the wedding...as well as the bride. It's just the way God made us! I'm sure there must have been quite a few Christians turned off by this movie. Thanks, Joel, love and blessings to you, Amy, and the kids.

The pre-trib rapture is a man-made construct that, while seemingly appealing at first blush, actually robs Christians of our most glorious moment if we are alive in those days. A Christian's greatest joy, and victory, would be able to die for their faith. It happened to the Apostles, so are we to expect more? Nope. Blessings to you all!

@brotherderek

Жыл бұрын

@Tim James It makes me mad, Tim. Calvary Chapel, and others, are not preparing their people for what may come sooner than later. This is upsetting. Thanks for your comment.

Thank you for your talks on this subject. It has cleared up my misunderstanding of the wedding in heaven. Now I see the bride in Revelation 19 gathered by the angels at the 7th trumpet to meet the bridegroom in heaven and return with him on white horses for the great supper of God. Here we have a negative image of the supper which fits with the parable in Matthew 22. Those who are not dressed properly are cast outside for judgement. Now inside the Father`s house, the new Jerusalem that has come down, the wedding feast takes place. Now there seems to be a conflict with Matthew 22 and 25. The wedding feast takes place in the Father`s house in 22 whereas in the parable of the 10 virgins it takes place in the bride`s house. There is no contradiction. The Father of the bride and the Son is the one God of both. The brides house is on earth and the new Jerusalem comes down to earth to provide the eternal venue in the Father`s house.

Excellent teaching. Note: The PDF notes on the FAI website does not match this teaching - They are from the "Who is the bride" session. Please, when you have the time, correct this. :) God bless.

The resurrection at the coming of the Son of Man will be fulfilled during the Feast of Trumpets!

I got a heart on a comment I made on Sorbo's new movie I guess it was. Don't think it was this one! I said, "we have to come into the unity of the faith." I don't know who did it, but we have a long way to go and a short time to do it in. Since we were told to "work while it is day the night will come..." and I can't highlight that in red!

The answer is nothing proves a pretrib lation rapture. You have to allegorize Scripture to do that. J.M.M.

@JesusFreekJiuJitsu

Жыл бұрын

@@MrThatWatchman while it may be true that some elevate their particular version of the Bible higher than they should, most don’t “worship” their Bibles. That said, the Bible is authoritative for us to follow the instructions within it, in the same way a note with a list of chores from a parent to a child is authoritative. The child doesn’t worship the note, but they do take it seriously because it conveys the expectations of the parent to the child.

@TheRgordon16

Жыл бұрын

@@MrThatWatchman You fail to understand that tribulation means tribulation. When the Lord told the disciples they would have tribulations in this world, he was not referring ONLY to everyday life. He was ALSO talking about , rejections, persecutions and hatred from the enemies of the cross. Read the book of Acts and see the type of tribulations the disciples had to endure. They were threatened, beaten, imprisoned and murdered. Christians were eaten by lions and burned in the fire. That is what Jesus meant when He said “you will have tribulation”. Only Americans have this misguided idea it only means day to day struggles with temptations and paying bills and dealing with family challenges. Adding the adjective GREAT before tribulation doesn’t increase the TYPE of tribulation Christians will suffer. No. The word GREAT represents the increased scope of tribulation which shall be Throughout the whole world. In other words the ISOLATED places where Christian’s are being arrested or even killed, will no longer be in certain isolated areas but will be WORLD WIDE. That is why it is called GREAT tribulation.

@donhaddix3770

Жыл бұрын

@@MrThatWatchman Restrainer holy spirit removed 2 Thessalonians 2:6-7 New International Version 6 And now you know what is holding him back, so that he may be revealed at the proper time. 7 For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way. Holy spirit is in the born-again. So they have to go. Revelation 3:10 New International Version 10 Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth. tereo guard by removal. from the whole earth. ◄ 1 Thessalonians 5:9 ► New International Version For God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ. The tribulation. 1 Corinthians 15:51-54 ESV / 31 helpful votes Behold! I tell you a mystery. We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed. For this perishable body must put on the imperishable, and this mortal body must put on immortality. When the perishable puts on the imperishable, and the mortal puts on immortality, then shall come to pass the saying that is written: “Death is swallowed up in victory.” last trump of church age. Revelation 1 7 lamp-stand equal 7 churches/ages. After the rapture replaced by the 2 witnesses. Matthew 25 New International Version The Parable of the Ten Virgins 25 “At that time the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. 2 Five of them were foolish and five were wise. 3 The foolish ones took their lamps but did not take any oil with them. 4 The wise ones, however, took oil in jars along with their lamps. 5 The bridegroom was a long time in coming, and they all became drowsy and fell asleep. 6 “At midnight the cry rang out: ‘Here’s the bridegroom! Come out to meet him!’ 7 “Then all the virgins woke up and trimmed their lamps. 8 The foolish ones said to the wise, ‘Give us some of your oil; our lamps are going out.’ 9 “‘No,’ they replied, ‘there may not be enough for both us and you. Instead, go to those who sell oil and buy some for yourselves.’ 10 “But while they were on their way to buy the oil, the bridegroom arrived. The virgins who were ready went in with him to the wedding banquet. And the door was shut. 11 “Later the others also came. ‘Lord, Lord,’ they said, ‘open the door for us!’ 12 “But he replied, ‘Truly I tell you, I don’t know you.’ 13 “Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day or the hour. thief in the night. unknown time. any time other than pretrib is known.

@karriesaunders8597

Жыл бұрын

​@@MrThatWatchman left behind where? On the earth when the believers who are still alive are lifted up at the gathering?

@karriesaunders8597

Жыл бұрын

​@@MrThatWatchman ? Mankind mingling with the demonic? Creating hybrid races?

It saddens me to hear that pastors I thought were honest would make statements that they knew were unfounded.

I am glad to see you dealing with this pre-tribulation rapture question. Maybe now since the tribulation has started and rapture believers are still here, maybe now they will start searching for what the Bible really teachers. However, I fear that many will simply give up and take the Mark of the Beast because they have not been prepared to endure to the end, even until death. That is what Jesus teaches, and it is what all the other believers have had to deal with. We are not different.

@cheddarurchin3844

Жыл бұрын

I just stumbled into the crazy Christian comment section 😂

@Cara96

Жыл бұрын

The Great Tribulation has not yet started.

@cheddarurchin3844

Жыл бұрын

@@Cara96 pretty sure it has, trump is the antichrist and he's been leading his army of evil

@jeaniekelly6803

Жыл бұрын

AS Blackwell yes indeed I do fear that those who have bought into the pre trib teaching will fall away it will press heavily upon them when they do not see YESHUA coming as they thought...if those precious believers in Yeshua were not spared from the lions and crucified as burning torches, put to death, suffered, and our beloved brothers and sisters are today in certain nations paying with their lives for receiving the love of the truth! then it is foolish and deceptive to think we and those who come to Father by the Son will be spared ..shalom...

@Cara96

Жыл бұрын

@@cheddarurchin3844 no and no.

Brothers do you know of a good study on the appointed times of the Lord. Feast days I mean?

He already delivered us from sin for what he did for us on the cross.

@alchemistkingdickinson2256

Жыл бұрын

jc blood shed by idiots and being tacked to crux 4/3/33 ad has nothing to do with you today lieing and breaking commandments or not so; and accomplishing salvation or not in near future!

@cat-bg3rv

Жыл бұрын

Redemption

If Yeshua returned before the tribulation no one would get in because our garments are still stained and it will take great tribulation to make white our garments

good word!

Something that isn't mentioned often is this: In Greek, the word 'tribulation' is 'thlipsin'. The Greek word for 'wrath' is 'orge'. Pre-trib folks want to conflate the two saying the Tribulation is the wrath of God.....which it is not.....

No they do not… the bride stays in her world preparing for the bridegroom until the day the bridegroom comes for her, and on that day he takes her to the wedding, and then into the wedding supper, everything takes place on “that day” The only difference for us, is that on “that day” our bridegroom is going to have to go into battle with the dragon and defeat him first, then we will go to the wedding and into the wedding supper, and our wedding supper will last 1000 years 💗

Many believe the Feast of Trumpets (Lev. 23:24) is the rapture and the day of Atone-ment (23:27) is the Lord’s second coming when Jesus judges the nations, pours out the Spirit of grace and supplication and “saves all Israel.” (Zech. 12:10, Rom. 11:26). Trum-pets falls on Tishri 1, where Atonement falls on Tishri 10, or TEN DAYS later. The pre-trib model has seven years between the rapture and second coming where prewrath has about two years. But if trumpets is the rapture and Atonement the second coming, pre-trib and prewrath need to recalibrate if there are TEN DAYS between them.

"Lifting the Bride into the air." And that claim is made out of thin air. Because these people want their followers "lifted up" into the thin air of their lies, where they can control them.

I don't care about allusions to a wedding one way or another. Scripture mentions a rapture several times, and the 70th week of Daniel is very clearly lined out in purpose. These and more close the noose on the more vague passages on the subject quite well. The vague passages that people who doubt the rapture use and pretend are the only evidence for the rapture.

The music❤❤

Every thing that teach about weddings being a picture of pretrib raptur, can also fit actually does fit better in a post trib rapture

Thank you. It seems lies were told simply to publicize the movie. This is NOT ACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR FOR A CHRISTIAN, LET ALONE A CHRISTIAN PASTOR.

Earlier it was stated that in His promise in John 14, Jesus drew an analogy from Jewish marriage customs inbiblical times. Now that the marriage customs have been considered, it is essential that the analogy be examined. In what ways was Jesus' promise analogous with Jewish marriage customs? In the examination of the analogy the first thing that should be noted is the fact that the Scriptures regard the Church to be the Bride of Christ (Eph. 5:22-23). In addition, just as the Jewish bridegroom took the initiative in marriage by leaving his father's house and traveling to the home of the prospective bride, so Jesus left his Father's house in heaven and traveled to earth, the home of His prospective Church, over 1900 years ago. In the same manner as the Jewish bridegroom came to the bride's home for the purpose of obtaining her through the establishment of a marriage covenant, so Jesus came to earth for the purpose of obtaining the Church through the establishment of a covenant. On the same night in which Jesus made His promise in John 14 He instituted communion. As He passed the cup of wine to His disciples, He said: "This cup is the new covenant in my blood." (NASV, 1 Cor. 11:25). This was His way of saying that He would establish a new covenant through the shedding of His blood on the cross. Parallel to the custom of the Jewish groom paying a price to purchase his bride, Jesus paid a price to purchase His Bride, the Church. The price that He paid was His own life blood. It was because of this purchase price that Paul wrote the following to members of the Church: "do you not know... that you are not your own? For you have been bought with a price; therefore glorify God in your body". (NASV, 1 Cor. 6:19-20). Analogous with the Jewish bride being declared to be sanctified or set apart exclusively for her groom once te marriage covenant was established, the Church has been declared to be sanctified or set apart exclusively for Christ (Eph. 5:25-27; 1 Cor. 1:2, 6:11; Heb. 10:10; 13:12). In the same way that a cup of wine served as a symbol of marriage covenant through which the Jewish groom obtained his bride, so the cup of communion serves as the symbol of the covenant through which Christ has obtained the Church (1 Cor. 11:25). Just as the Jewish groom left the home of his bride and returned to his father's house after the marriage covenant had been established, so Jesus returned to His Father's house in heaven after He had established the new covenant and risen from the dead (John 6:62; 20:17). In correspondence with the period of separation between the Jewish groom and bride, Christ has remained separate from the Church for over 1900 years. The Church is now living in that period of separation. Parallel to the custom of the Jewish groom preparing living accommodations for his bride in his father's house during the time of separation, Christ has been preparing living accommodations for the Church in His Father's house in heaven during His separation from His Bride (John 14:20). In the same manner as the Jewish groom came to take his bride to live with him at the end of the period of separation, so Christ will come to take the Church to live with Him at the end of His period of separation from the Church (John 14:3). Just as the taking of the Jewish bride was accomplished by a procession of the groom and male escorts from the groom's father's house to the home of the bride, so the taking of the Church will be accomplished by a procession of Christ and an angelic escort from Christ's Father's house in heaven to the home of the Church (1 Thess. 4:16). Analogous with the Jewish bride not knowing the exact time of the groom's coming for her the Church does not know the exact time of Christ's coming for her. In the same way that the Jewish groom's arrival was preceded by a shout, so Christ's arrival to take the Church will be preceded by a shout (1 Thess. 4:16). Similar to the Jewish bride's return with the groom to his father' house after her departure from her home, the Church will return with Christ to His Father's house in heaven after she is snatched from the earth to meet Him in the air (1 Thess. 4:17; John 14:2-3). In the same manner as the Jewish wedding party found wedding guests assembled in the groom's father's house when they arrived, so Christ and the Church will find the souls of old Testament saints assembled in heaven when they arrive. These souls will serve as the wedding guests. Parallel to the custom of the Jewish groom and bride entering into physical union after their arrival at the groom's father's house, thereby consummating the marriage that had been covenanted earlier, Christ and the Church will experience spiritual union after their arrival at His Father's house in heaven, thereby consummating their relationship that had been covenanted earlier. In correspondence with the Jewish bride remaining hidden in the bridal chamber for a period of seven days after arrival at the groom's father's house, the Church will remain hidden for a period of seven after arrival at Christ's Father's house in heaven. While the seven year Tribulation Period is taking place on the earth, the Church will be in heaven totally hidden from the sight of those living on the earth. Just as the Jewish groom brought his bride out of the bridal chamber at the conclusion of the seven days with her veil removed, so that all could see who his bride was, so Christ will bring the Church out of heaven in His Second Coming at the conclusion of the seven year Tribulation Period in full view of all who are alive, so that all can see who the true Church is (Col. 3:4). Written by, Dr. Renald Showers, Chairman of the Pastoral Studies Dept. Philadelphia College of Bible (year unknown) Distributed by, The Friends of Israel Gospel Ministry, Inc., W. Collingswood, N.J. "Therefore, be on the alert, for you do not know which day your Lord is coming. Matt 24:42 For this reason you be ready too; for the Son of Man is coming at an hour when you do not think He will!

Interesting about Tobit.

I don't understand why people think we have to endure the tribulation because of sinfulness. That is denying that the blood of Jesus was sufficient to cover our sins, a total rejection of the Gospel.

@Pre-Tribulation

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The last week of Daniel's Prophecy is to put an end to sin. Jesus paid for OUR sins on the cross by simply believing He died for our sins and rose again on 3rd day. Once the Pre-Tribulation Rapture happens, the ones left behind, are tested with Mark or No Mark for Salvation. Salvation for the ones left behind after the rapture, is do they refuse the Mark or not.

First in history to Saudi? That's awesome Joel.

As always thank you Joel. I first heard that the father made the wedding arrangements almost in secret and did not share these details until everything was ready well over 40 years ago so this is hardly a new teaching. At that time I did not know or understand any of the bible so anything said had to be right as it was said by a person standing 6 feet above contradiction. So what is the purpose of the rapture? A British Bible teacher, David Pawson who was convinced the pre-tribulation rapture was wrong once suggested that the rapture simply meant all believers simply got taken by God to Jerusalem. I simply do not know.

Joel, great teaching! Could you check on the feast of YHVH, I find these feast are Yehovah's salvation plan, the 7 feast of leviticus 23.... in the feast, the 1st day of feast of Trumpets / day of shouting is by seeing the sliver of the new moon (new month) in the 7th month, this new moon shows up between 29 or 30 day cycle, hence the Hebrew idiom Yeshua spoke about as "no one knows the day or the hour" is referring to this feast day! To this day the orthodox jews, (who do not belive in Yeshua) do this feast for 2 days and don't understand what it is for... most believe it's the new year. In scripture the day of shouting is when the heavens are opened up to the shephards to inform them about the birth of Yeshua (Luke 2: 8-18). Just wanting to spread the good news to my brothers and sisters, love you all at FAI and MARINATHA! Shalom!! Please let me know what you think.

Yep!

I have a question. If the Rapture occurs at the end of the Tribulation (this must be all Believers being translated and receiving their resurrection bodies) then who populates the Millennium?

@Pre-Tribulation

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Good point! The wheat are children of the kingdom!!!! They go into the Millennium Age with their vile bodies to populate the Earth with children and grandchildren. We rule over them with our bodies fashioned like Jesus's glorious risen body! See you in the clouds! These post tribbers cultists can curse God. They WILL take the Mark because deception will be everywhere.

@jeffrachelburkhalter3783

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Jesus is reigning now on David's throne in heaven. The one thousand years sybolizes a long time, like the one thousand hills symbolizes a large number.

@Pre-Tribulation

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@@jeffrachelburkhalter3783 Jesus is at the right Hand of the Father. Jesus is ruling in Heaven on the Throne of the Father. When we get changed and resurrected and sent to Heaven, then Jesus rules over US as KING of Kings and LORD of Lords. During the Millennium Age, Jesus sets on the Throne of David in Jerusalem.

@jeffrachelburkhalter3783

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@@Pre-Tribulation David's throne is also called the throne of the Lord.

@Pre-Tribulation

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@@jeffrachelburkhalter3783 Right, but I just don't believe the throne of David is in heaven. I believe the throne of David is on Earth in Jerusalem. We will find out soon, maranatha

I believe the church is also the bride of Christ in Eph 5:25-32

@alchemistkingdickinson2256

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jc is human! watching all do as they do here ; just like god is watching! nobody seeks relationship with jc today! bride is called many things;names! such as new jerusalem' city of revelation; true invisible rc; goldenfleece; white stones;enlightened; red serpent;list goes on and on

@JoelRichardson

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We are included, grafted in.

Joel I think you said that scripture doesn't say the church is the bride of Christ. Then what about Revelation 22:17 NKJV And the Spirit and the bride say, "Come!" And let him who hears say, "Come!" And let him who thirsts come. Whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely.

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The Bride has a quickened spirit!!!! She is addressed as SPIRIT and the Bride! We get a quickened spirit soon as we believe in the Gospel, 1 Corinthians 15:45. See you in the clouds. Maranatha

Of interest is that the days of a Jewish wedding is 7 days. Refer Jacob’s wedding to Leah and then Rachel after 7 days. Gen. 29:26;

@JoelRichardson

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Actually, that is not what happened. First, Jacob worked for seven years to marry Leah. Then he had to work for another seven years to marry Rachael.

Why didn't Paul tell the Gentiles that they needed to study up on Jewish weddings and traditions to understand the endtimes?

Back in the time of Zola Levitt when this wedding scenario was invented, it was relatively simple. I have watched this thing evolve over the past 40 years as Pretribbers continue to add lie upon lie. Originally it was just a just a belief that there was a seven day wedding and the bride got snatched away when the father said it was time the wedding chamber was ready. Then later the claim was made that Jesus' words in John 14 were actually the exact words a groom would say to his bride. It the beginning it was the Jewish wedding tradition which was found in all of the writings of all of the ancient rabbis. Now it's just a Galilean wedding. It's no longer found in the writings of the ancient rabbis. Somehow they have disappeared. I also, always wondered where these things were found and looked for citations. I found none. Whenever somethings was cited, it was referering back to another Pretrib website.

I used to listen to Amir Tsarfati a lot, but I've lost a lot of respect for him. Seems like he's not dealing honestly with the facts.

I agree the evidence is limited. Any😅one who just swallows a belief through listening without doing their own study is going to fall for anything. Still I could not say they are lying, perhaps deceived.