Do I need a Door Pillow in my Harvestright Freeze Dryer?

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Ah, the age old question. To pillow or not to pillow? Harvestright has stopped sending door pillows with their freeze dryers because there were just too many problems with user error. It was causing vacuum problems and what I would imagine to be a BIG headache for Harvestright.
Their Solution: YOU DON'T NEED IT ANYMORE and we are not giving you one!
Do I need a Door Pillow in my Harvestright Freeze Dryer? I have been running mine without an insulation pad for a few weeks now to see if i can notice a difference. To be honest, I don't think it's a big enough difference to note. The vacuum chamber door is so thick, I'm not sure that a small insulation pillow would make much of a difference. I ran 2 identical tests with identical pumps, identical weight, and identical variables. Watch the video to see what my opinion is.
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  • @live.life.simple.
    @live.life.simple.3 жыл бұрын

    Lots of people asking: Why didn't I get a door pillow with my Harvestright Freeze Dryer? I am really getting accustomed to running mine without! Make sure you check out our NEW products in the store! www.freezedryingsupplies.com

  • @tech-mediasvc

    @tech-mediasvc

    3 жыл бұрын

    Can I buy your medium door pad since you are not going to be using it anymore? Thanks!

  • @sv3931

    @sv3931

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tech-mediasvc For real! I'd buy one (med) too. Anyone will to sell?

  • @mellyf6954

    @mellyf6954

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes..looking for a pillow myself... called HR and they do not have any to purchase.

  • @tkcdac

    @tkcdac

    2 жыл бұрын

    Saw your shirt. Are you a Mason?

  • @margaretmoon7154
    @margaretmoon7154 Жыл бұрын

    I am 80 years old. Yes you can teach an old dog new tricks. I grow my own vegetables and can them but lifetime is only 5-6 years. I want to leave my children usable food for when it hits the fan. I just finished setting up my freeze dryer. Wish me luck. I am off to look at the good stuff on your site.

  • @Mountainmonths

    @Mountainmonths

    2 ай бұрын

    very nice!

  • @sweetcasiopea2080
    @sweetcasiopea2080 Жыл бұрын

    Mine came without a pillow, which they informed me wasn't needed. However, I subsequently had to make one as water condensed on the outside of freezer door as long as it was running, and made a very large puddle on the floor. I did not compare dryer run time , so was happy to see in the video the it actually decreased run time. Thank you for your very informative videos.

  • @WthrLdy

    @WthrLdy

    2 ай бұрын

    Exactly why I run mine with a pillow. In the few months of the Spring and early summer that it is humid, but not miserably hot out, we don't run the AC. But there is enough humidity in the air to cause a condensation issue without the pillow.

  • @rickwatkins7285
    @rickwatkins7285Ай бұрын

    I just bought one of these units, with the oil free pump. We are just learning to play with this great Modernist Cuisine instrument. The pillow is simple thermodynamics. There is more thermal conduction without the pillow. That being said, from what I can see with the pillow, is that there is greater risk of losing a batch due to poor vacuum seal. Thank you for going to the effort to evaluate.

  • @CannaNoir
    @CannaNoir2 жыл бұрын

    The dividers you make look AMAZING! I'll definitely be ordering some! They are going to help a LOT!

  • @OvcharkaShepherd
    @OvcharkaShepherd3 жыл бұрын

    Counting the days until my unit arrives. Inspired by your videos!!!

  • @allenanthony2651
    @allenanthony26513 жыл бұрын

    the divider is a great idea!

  • @jameshuett2559
    @jameshuett25593 жыл бұрын

    Love the dividers.

  • @petenelson8136
    @petenelson81363 жыл бұрын

    Love the side by side comparison, and how you made sure the only variable was the pillow. Very scientific approach. Love this channel as I'm considering buying a freeze dryer and this channel has shown me what all is involved in freeze drying.

  • @angelrob17
    @angelrob173 жыл бұрын

    I’m too lazy at the moment to go dig through my notes, but the pre-freeze was also noticeably faster with the pillow. I never do identical loads, so thanks for this test! As always, very informative.

  • @danielghoganjr
    @danielghoganjr3 жыл бұрын

    you keep creating things that i have to buy. Keep up the good work!

  • @live.life.simple.

    @live.life.simple.

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ha! There are more products coming !

  • @danoesq2
    @danoesq27 ай бұрын

    I just got their newer model and was wondering about that. Thanks for clearing that up.

  • @karengallinoel6367
    @karengallinoel63673 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate your pillow test. I don't think I will get one. I'm a beginner so I will be tuning in for help.

  • @phyrewillow6463
    @phyrewillow64633 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video! Answered my question. 👍

  • @greyballer1671
    @greyballer1671 Жыл бұрын

    New freeze dryer. Your dividers are so awesome!

  • @live.life.simple.

    @live.life.simple.

    Жыл бұрын

    Good to hear! Hard to imagine Fding without now

  • @theprofit8473
    @theprofit84733 жыл бұрын

    I just got mine about a month ago and did a cycle with out the pad , had a panic and called harvest right. They told me they don’t include these anymore due to it interfering with the seal. They only thing I have noticed is the top shelf moves towards the door about an inch.but still freeze dries. Your videos are so informative and was my main source when investigating before buying.👍

  • @bernardr.6868
    @bernardr.68682 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, we are on solar and I appreciate knowing this. Ours came with the pillow thankfully.

  • @homesteadingwithapurpose9681
    @homesteadingwithapurpose96812 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for all the information.

  • @peggye.5454
    @peggye.54543 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the great videos. I’ve had my medium FD since 2017 and the pillow has never been very “snug”. Have never had a 29 hour run! Almost always 40+ hours no matter what I’m freeze drying. HarvestRight has been absolutely no help in this regard. After 135 loads I started getting vacuum errors, changed pump, didn’t help got a 8cfm pump which helped for a couple of runs but dryer is still shutting down after 30 minutes of 1st dry cycle even though the gauge on the pump is at maximum vacuum. We’ve checked everything but just get a run around from HR. You and other owners on YT have been much more helpful. Thanks again.

  • @mmkucharczyk81

    @mmkucharczyk81

    2 жыл бұрын

    what i found out is that your food is to moist.and that error i get some times .when that happens just hit more time

  • @brichter4669
    @brichter46693 жыл бұрын

    Just received our FD and it didn't come with a pillow. Now that I see people are having condensation issues around the door without a pillow, I am concerned. I purchased several items from your supply store and received them. Wish I could have ordered the dividers from you, but I have already purchased similar metal dividers from a different vendor. Thank you for sharing your videos. Am learning a lot from them and joined your FB group. Looking forward to doing lots of freeze drying.

  • @michaelwright1602
    @michaelwright16029 ай бұрын

    I bought some plexiglass at Home Depot yesterday, and will be cutting it to fit the opening. That way, I can use thermometers to check the internal temps of the food without opening the door, and to ensure the process is working, along with weighing each tray. There is a video on YT that explains how to, and the benefit of doing this. And the plexiglass does cut down on the condensation on the door.

  • @liannemitchell2279
    @liannemitchell22793 жыл бұрын

    I'm not surprised that it takes longer without since it's not as insulating so likely takes longer to get to the initial freeze. Especially as it hasn't vacuum sealed the door yet. I've also seen comments on the facebook pages that after a few years, the relatively fast temperature changes can damage the door and it cracks. For me, I leave it off if I put something in that I'm worried might explode or expand than I want. I get a lot of condensation around the door and and rubber ring that I don't get with the pillow. I kinda feel like HR just took an easy, cheap way out. First they started only making one size which is why some don't fit properly, which is why people have a hard time with not getting it in right and having the seal not work. Then they'd complaints about that so decided not to supply it. I just expect that in a few years, lots of people are going to end up needing new doors. If I buy another one and don't get a pillow, I'll make one myself. For now, they have a monopoly on the machines so it's not like you can go to a competitor that does supply them.

  • @monana8706
    @monana87063 жыл бұрын

    PS: Love the new dividers! Will check them out!

  • @live.life.simple.

    @live.life.simple.

    3 жыл бұрын

    They are a game changer. It has been really tough staying tight lipped about these the last few weeks!

  • @monana8706
    @monana87063 жыл бұрын

    I found that my FD developed condensation on the door without a pillow that usually results in a small puddle under the door. So, I will continue to use the pillow for less mess and quicker drying times.

  • @EarthlyVibes

    @EarthlyVibes

    3 жыл бұрын

    Me too

  • @live.life.simple.

    @live.life.simple.

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's good to hear experiences from both pillow and no pillow

  • @mrbyamile6973

    @mrbyamile6973

    2 жыл бұрын

    I live in Colorado, we have around 20 or 30% relative humidity, not much issue with condensation here.

  • @Gasp7000

    @Gasp7000

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mrbyamile6973 : In the north east, we often have over 50% humidity, so it will be an issue, I’m sure. We are finally just starting to use our FD.

  • @TaraTechTutor
    @TaraTechTutor3 жыл бұрын

    Those dividers look amazing. Adding them to my wish list for when I get my freeze dryer. I'm getting closer! Thanks for another great video.

  • @onedazinn998
    @onedazinn99811 ай бұрын

    Thanks for this video. My husband didn't see a way to use our pillow, but having watched people put them in I knew it was "supposed" to be used but in the manual it doesn't tell you to use it! When I run it without the pillow I have excess moisture dripping down on the floor and on top of the seal ring....so I'm guessing we need to try using it. This is a 2020 model that we just setup now due to illness past 3 yrs. I had no idea the seal ring came off so easily, so I'll tell my husband to watch this. ;) Thanks a bunch!

  • @valeria2930
    @valeria29303 жыл бұрын

    You are awesome. Mine FD is coming in soon. Can't wait. Question. So they are uncooked pizza rolls? Thinking of my grandkids. I am on whole foods plant base diet. Its torture having junk food taking up my freezer and frig in case they come over. On a whole foods plant base diet my frig is prime real-estate. I'm hoping this freeze dryer will help with my diet as well. Great job on your videos. They should put you on their payroll.

  • @rce2553
    @rce25532 жыл бұрын

    I just purchased a medium freeze dryer from my local Tractor Supply store it did not have the pillow. In addition to that it had the old pump even though the website advertised the unit as having the newer premier pump. So this week I’m going to be on the phone with customer support to get it worked out. Thank you sir for the quality videos and information, you have help in the decision to make the leap into freeze drying. I bought it from TSC because they had it on hand, on sale ready to go. I will be checking out your store soon for accessories.

  • @live.life.simple.

    @live.life.simple.

    2 жыл бұрын

    It sounds like your tractor supply has been sitting on that inventory for awhile.

  • @rce2553

    @rce2553

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@live.life.simple. Yes they must have had some older units, But it came with the 3/8" vacuum line so it had to of been newer that 2019. Also Harvest Right sent the premier pump in 3 days time of calling them. So I'm ready to run the bread burn in cycle. It all worked out great, their customer service is excellent.

  • @leeludallas7069
    @leeludallas7069 Жыл бұрын

    hello, i just found your channel today. i received my med harvest right FD the other day. i noticed it DID NOT come with a pillow. so, this video was very informative. i have my FD in the house. im PRAYING its not too obnoxiously loud b/c its in the breakfast nook, lol. but some of the digging I've done people are saying that in a high humidity environment i should have the pillow. however, my house runs around 73 degrees, im in SE Florida. i will def order the tray dividers once ive learned hoe to use my new machine

  • @live.life.simple.

    @live.life.simple.

    Жыл бұрын

    They have not shipped with pillows for a couple years now. It can be helpful for condensation in humid environments. Air-conditioned houses or a dehumidified room can also be helpful. There is a lady on our facebook page that sells pillows if you still find that you need one.

  • @moniqueberthault4154
    @moniqueberthault41542 жыл бұрын

    I love my dividers. Smart and practical design. Where can we find more of your detailed recipes ??? Thank you !

  • @DeathclawJedi
    @DeathclawJedi3 жыл бұрын

    Watched you for a couple of years now been subbed for about a year. How is it this is the first time it registered in my mind that you sold stuff for help with freeze drying too!?!? Life getting in the road I guess. To busy and focused on feeding my cattle or fixing fence or everything...! Going to go check out your products right now! Edit your Oxy absorbers are less expensive than the ones I currently buy. Next time I need some you've got my business. Probably going to get the dividers too.

  • @live.life.simple.

    @live.life.simple.

    3 жыл бұрын

    We have lots more new stuff coming in the next couple months! Thanks for your support

  • @jimmylittle9393
    @jimmylittle93932 жыл бұрын

    OOooOOoo those tray dividers are clever!

  • @live.life.simple.

    @live.life.simple.

    2 жыл бұрын

    👍

  • @wordsofhis1799
    @wordsofhis17992 жыл бұрын

    Awww, man.... My freeze dryer is due to be delivered next week, and I hope I get a pillow! That's the only pillow talk that I get anymore.

  • @live.life.simple.

    @live.life.simple.

    2 жыл бұрын

    😂 Harvestright no longer sends a pillow with their orders

  • @sheilastringfield3463
    @sheilastringfield34633 жыл бұрын

    Aggghhh! My order I made last week just shipped! I def would have ordered this dividers had they been available.

  • @sv3931

    @sv3931

    3 жыл бұрын

    Me too

  • @Jimbojam
    @Jimbojam3 жыл бұрын

    I like the pillow. it insulates the freeze dryer and doubles as a knee pillow at night. you know you want to try that out now

  • @AdmiralPreparedness
    @AdmiralPreparedness3 жыл бұрын

    I got mine with the pillow. It does not fit as I expected it to. I'll keep using it as the edge does not have condendation around it with it in during a cycle. Cheers! ALWAYS BE PREPARED

  • @cyndidame1721
    @cyndidame17213 жыл бұрын

    I forgot to add my pillow on a run, and I had a lot more condensation on the outside of the door. I prefer to use the pillow.

  • @brucezietlow4324

    @brucezietlow4324

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wondering what changes harvest right made on these freeze dryers? Takes longer to freeze dry and compensation is greater.

  • @brucezietlow4324

    @brucezietlow4324

    3 жыл бұрын

    🤪 condinsation

  • @jacobmartinez5559

    @jacobmartinez5559

    3 жыл бұрын

    Mine does not give liquid option and whether it's bell peppers or watermelon it takes 30 + hours it honestly is a bit fustrating right now!, hopefully I'm praying once we have a good few months of preparerd foods I won't feel like it's not worth it it takes days to do 10-15 apples we purchased because we are a large family wanting to lessen the need for our two large deep freezers and extra frig but at this rate Im needing all these things be cause of the slowness of the process I could handle the small batches if the time need for each small batch was so much our household of7 5young kids seem easier to just eat fresh and can ...

  • @davidscott1897
    @davidscott18973 жыл бұрын

    I would buy a pillow if it was in your store. I live in a high humidity environment and condensation runs down the door. Thanks for making good on the no suck kit that was accidently overlooked on my last order. I will be ordering again.

  • @cookiestehl7907

    @cookiestehl7907

    2 жыл бұрын

    Did that cause a little malfunction? I’m having the humidity issue now

  • @pamevetts5057
    @pamevetts50572 жыл бұрын

    I like the pillow because of the condensate on my gasket of every load. I am able to dry off the gasket prior to removing the pillow. One drop on a tray could cause a disaster. Thanx for your study.

  • @ozarkarky
    @ozarkarky3 жыл бұрын

    I think the main difference is your environment. If your freeze dryer is in a controlled environment with low humidity it probably doesn't have a lot of effect. But if your freeze dryer is in an environment with relatively high humidity then you're going to have a lot of condensation on the door, and the resulting puddle beneath it.

  • @davemarshall1794

    @davemarshall1794

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes! We just got our freeze dryer and ran our first two batches over the weekend. The puddle underneath was unexpected and unwelcome.

  • @sv3931

    @sv3931

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@davemarshall1794 Same here. So I called HR and asked to buy one & they told me that the pillow has nothing to do with condensation. That doesn't really comport with comment sections on FD videos. HR says it's just humidity in the air. My FD is in the kitchen, with a fan, and refrigerated A/C. Admittedly, I do live in a med-hi humidity zone (spring & fall) but drought-ful summers.

  • @sassyherbgardener7154

    @sassyherbgardener7154

    Жыл бұрын

    @@davemarshall1794 I just watched a YT video on how a guy made a simple insulating piece to go around the rubber seal on his freeze dryer door. His channel is SchoolReports. I am making one this week for my condensation leak drip.

  • @addamaniac
    @addamaniac3 жыл бұрын

    Would love to see the energy usage between the two batches. Was surprised you didn't have the killawatt set. Since you did a great job of removing other variables, this would have been a great use for it.

  • @live.life.simple.

    @live.life.simple.

    3 жыл бұрын

    I am not able to find a meter that will work with the large freeze dryer

  • @davagain

    @davagain

    2 жыл бұрын

    The relative costs can be taken directly from the times of the two batches. Same machine operating in the same way for a shorter or longer time will use proportionately less or more electricity.

  • @mattc7820

    @mattc7820

    2 жыл бұрын

    Davagain, that's not correct, differences in the temperature (due to a change in the thermal transfer with & without a pillow) will change the current draw on the refrigerant compressor. It will be a small change, but it will not be insignificant.

  • @jsigmo
    @jsigmo2 жыл бұрын

    I always wonder how nasty the batting in these pillows gets. Normally, it's a no-no to use porous materials in a food processing or prep area because they're difficult to keep sanitary. I also wonder if the pad would cause excessive carryover of odors between batches. Try doing a batch of onions, and then a batch of something bland. Try this with and without the pillow. What about making an insulating pad that snaps onto the outside of the door, so you can take it on and off, and not have it be inside of the freeze dryer? That seems more sanitary, and allows you to peek in any time, and remove it entirely once the vacuum process begins. I see no reason not to insulate the door from the outside.

  • @KLU421
    @KLU4213 жыл бұрын

    I ordered a custom pillow from the woman in Florida. Even though I may not need it, it looks pretty! 😁. My room is pretty humid, even with the air on, so I'll continue to use it. Ordered the dividers, can't wait to get them! Thanks

  • @brichter4669

    @brichter4669

    3 жыл бұрын

    I saw her website yesterday and was considering buying a pillow. Have you received it yet? If so, do you like it? I just received my FD and it didn't come with the insulating pillow. I haven't used the FD yet. Reading that people are having an issue with condensation around the door, I may go ahead and purchase one.

  • @readypetequalmers7360

    @readypetequalmers7360

    3 жыл бұрын

    is there a link to this store?

  • @KLU421

    @KLU421

    3 жыл бұрын

    harvestrightdoorpads@gmail.com

  • @KLU421

    @KLU421

    3 жыл бұрын

    I love it!

  • @Mr_elc
    @Mr_elc Жыл бұрын

    TYSM! I was wondering what the pillow was and why it was missing

  • @live.life.simple.

    @live.life.simple.

    Жыл бұрын

    Budget cuts i guess😂

  • @JimmyDevere
    @JimmyDevere3 жыл бұрын

    Just received my FD last week. No pillow yet it was in the pictures which is part of the description. They need to send me one free of charge asap! 1hr a half per batch is a big difference when multiplied by 200 batches a year. That's 300 hrs per year! Not to mention the condensation and possible door cracks from rapid cooling/heating cycles.

  • @tech-mediasvc

    @tech-mediasvc

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly

  • @coonassprepper5243
    @coonassprepper52433 жыл бұрын

    HR originally said it causes stress on the door and could over time cause cracking. now they no longer say that. Mine didn't come with a pillow. and there is no way to really test it except time is going to be the real test. One thing I have noticed is the condensation on the door which causes dripping of water on the floor. It also drips water during the defrost cycle.

  • @carolclarkson4859

    @carolclarkson4859

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have had my freeze dryer for 5 years and rarely use the pillow. It doesn't seem to make a difference. I can't imagine how it would reduce stresses on the door.

  • @SilentWatcher594
    @SilentWatcher5942 жыл бұрын

    Seems to me that an elastic frame pillow could be created to place on the OUTSIDE of the glass door for added insulation,,,instead of the inside. I don't know if condensation would still occur, but it definitely would not risk a vacuum problem. Maybe I will get creative and see what happens. I'll let you know!!

  • @jdsbees3257

    @jdsbees3257

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s the information I’m currently looking for, and what brought me here. Seems to me an elastic frame pillow, like you’re talking about, would be just as efficient, as far as helping maintain even temperature inside the vacuum chamber, with the added bonus of being able to remove it, to peel inside. I just got my machine, did the initial bread run today, and trying to absorb as much information as I possibly can. One thing about an outside pillow, if humidity is an issue, the inner surface may need to be of an absorbent material. I think I’ll break out the sewing machine tomorrow and see what I can come up with. I’d appreciate any advice or suggestions you may have come up with since this post. BeeguyJ

  • @julipersm4371
    @julipersm43713 жыл бұрын

    I wished we were given this as the other customers I purchased with the advertisement of one so not happy with the buy one if wanted one an ket me try an play with it

  • @tech-mediasvc
    @tech-mediasvc3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this video. I had requested this in another video comment after I received no pillow. As I expected, the time is extended for each batch which causes unnecessary wear and tear on the unit, and will cause the FD to process less batches before it wears out. Of course, this is good for HarvestRight because they have less phone calls for support and have now added “planned obsolescence” to the product, which increases their profit. I know you are an affiliate, so it is in your best interests to tell people that HarvestRight is who you should listen too. I for one, will be adding a pillow to also help with condensation issues here in South. Thanks again!

  • @tech-mediasvc

    @tech-mediasvc

    3 жыл бұрын

    Just an update, This is the reply I received from an email I sent to HR asking if they could provide me with test results showing the lack of the door pad would not extend the run time and wear & tear on the FD unit. Unfortunately, they seem to have avoided the question: “Hi there, thank you so much for contacting us! The sales team was correct. We have discontinued the door pad. When we did have them, all they were used for was to help insulate the machine. After our engineers did a lot of testing, we found that they were essentially useless so we decided to stop carrying them. We also learned that the door pads were causing more issues than not! A lot of vacuum errors were because of that pad. It was a fairly recent decision to discontinue them which is probably why you are still seeing them in videos online."

  • @walterackermann4040

    @walterackermann4040

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tech-mediasvc ..

  • @devonraney5170
    @devonraney51703 жыл бұрын

    A lot of people have mentioned condensation, I agree with them but want to add the pillow aids in a barrier between the food and any water drops that fall from the gasket when I first open the door. I live in a humid place and always have water drops on the gasket and even tho I wipe it off first there are still a few drops that fall when the door opens. I like having the barrier to make sure non land on the food somehow.

  • @devonraney5170

    @devonraney5170

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MochaZilla I’ve done that, it still drips. And it’s extra wear and tear on the gasket

  • @devonraney5170

    @devonraney5170

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MochaZilla ya I mean I guess we’re doing it differently. Mine doesn’t really come off without a tight snap back and then the water falls off. No biggie there are more than 1 way to achieve something.

  • @devonraney5170

    @devonraney5170

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MochaZilla weird, I’ve had mine a couple years. Maybe they’ve started making them slightly larger now but mine is really tight and hard to get off.

  • @audreygoodell2219
    @audreygoodell2219 Жыл бұрын

    Just ran my first test batch of bread per instructions. I had no pillow but there was quite a bit of frost on the door during the process.

  • @henkvanderklok
    @henkvanderklok Жыл бұрын

    If you process and freeze dry in a room kept at a lower temperature (say 53 degrees F) you don't really need the pillow. The cold room also speeds up the freezing, costs less energy, and colder air carries less humidity, so after freeze dry less moisture gets back into the food.

  • @MrBiron1
    @MrBiron13 жыл бұрын

    I was a bit annoyed not getting my pillow but. I just use the extruded polystyrene cut a hole in thefor the handle the stick into and I just shove it on top of the Plexiglas it saves me a hour. Bonus is when it's in vacuum I pull it off and watch

  • @rowdoyoumakethebubblesr8200

    @rowdoyoumakethebubblesr8200

    2 жыл бұрын

    What is that?

  • @gentlehouse1632

    @gentlehouse1632

    2 жыл бұрын

    The polystyrene is on outside of the door?

  • @MaliPendragon

    @MaliPendragon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Can you provide a picture of what you did? It sounds interesting.

  • @billholder253
    @billholder2533 жыл бұрын

    Just saw this video on vacuum packing using Havest Right Freeze Dryer & the Mylar freezer bags. It is similar to the video you did the same way, but this has an added option. It appears to be a game changer in sealing bags. Take a look & search KZread for video named "vacuum packing Mylar in a freeze dryer" by Evan Rowell. I know you will get a lot of information from Mr. Rowell. Hope this comments is of help to the freeze drying community.

  • @MaliPendragon

    @MaliPendragon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this tip Bill. I like Evan's approach to make a Much tighter vaccume seal using the Harvest Right freeze dryer. Excellent tip!

  • @rmojo23
    @rmojo232 жыл бұрын

    I would be interested if you tried the reflectics bubble insulation instead of the pillow.

  • @billhatcher2984
    @billhatcher29843 жыл бұрын

    I was wondering how you were going to rehydrate the pizza rolls but I guess you don't have to just have a couple of drinks of water looks good bet my grand kids would love them

  • @lindajordan6498

    @lindajordan6498

    Жыл бұрын

    Kind of like having the freeze dried ice cream sandwiches LOL

  • @bornonthebayou7926
    @bornonthebayou79263 жыл бұрын

    I've had sealing problems and I like to be able to see the product during the process. No more pillow.

  • @sv3931

    @sv3931

    3 жыл бұрын

    Is it medium? Wanna sell?

  • @ThirteenKidsLater
    @ThirteenKidsLater3 жыл бұрын

    I’ve had my freeze dryers since 2015. In the past month I’ve tried running them without the pillows and the primary difference I have noticed has been faint spider web type cracking in the inside of the plexiglass door. It does nothing threaten the integrity or function of the door….yet…but it is a definite change. I have gone back to using the pillows in mine.

  • @xemptynester3449

    @xemptynester3449

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have a machine from 2018 and I have the spider webbing from only about 4 loads without it. I wonder if they did research om the doors. I am concerned about using without the pillow. Has the door been improved? Is the plexiglass thicker or better quality? If those who don't have a pillow want one they can buy one from Betty on Betty's Freeze Frying Group.

  • @mamak1967

    @mamak1967

    Жыл бұрын

    I have always used the pillow and have had that from day one

  • @jacobmartinez5559
    @jacobmartinez55593 жыл бұрын

    Not gonna lie feeling jaded and jipped over not having it and then being able to decide and I don't want to have to purchase out of pocket something that was advertised when I purchased,just saying I would like to have it be my choice

  • @jacobmartinez5559

    @jacobmartinez5559

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh this is julipers M on my son's you tube sorry (he does not like when I comment under his with out saying 🤔😂😘)

  • @jeffwashburn36

    @jeffwashburn36

    2 жыл бұрын

    When o ordered mine they said it came with it when I got it now pillow. Called and all they would say is I don’t need it and they don’t have any. Even for sale.

  • @jameshaines789
    @jameshaines7893 жыл бұрын

    In regards to whether the “pillow” is or isn’t beneficial isn’t necessarily food quality but time and energy consumption. The pillow could potentially reduce loss of temperature in its heat or cooling cycles. Put an energy consumption gauge on it with accurate timing… It would also be interesting if you used an accurate laser temperature meter and take potential “loss” readings on each heat/cooling cycle at the door where the pillow rests…

  • @xemptynester3449

    @xemptynester3449

    2 жыл бұрын

    It could prevent the door from cracking.

  • @jameshaines789

    @jameshaines789

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@xemptynester3449 I think you may have something there. Although it’s only superficial we have what appears to be scratches, probably due to the extreme temperature changes.

  • @amandaaskew7606
    @amandaaskew76063 жыл бұрын

    I got my freeze dryer right after they quit sending out the pillows. I have friends who have pillows, and all of my loads seem to take 2 + hours more than theirs. I also like being able to see what is going on in the chamber, but the quicker dry time is valuable for several reasons.

  • @Ldybugsrus-Nadine

    @Ldybugsrus-Nadine

    3 жыл бұрын

    There is a video by school reports he shows how to make a plexiglss insert that insulates and allows you to still see inside.

  • @amandaaskew7606

    @amandaaskew7606

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Ldybugsrus-Nadine thank you!!! I will look the video up now!

  • @dkheaton

    @dkheaton

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Ldybugsrus-Nadine Do you happen to have a link for this video you talk about? I could not find it. Thanks

  • @Ldybugsrus-Nadine

    @Ldybugsrus-Nadine

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dkheaton kzread.info/dash/bejne/l6Z8k7h9obHPaJM.html

  • @kenc3782
    @kenc37822 жыл бұрын

    Just got my FD on Sunday. For your information, the "pillow" has one function, and one function only. It is an insulator. However, there is no harm in not using one. It all has to do with thermodynamics. Think of it this way, plexiglass has an R value of 0.86. Fiberglass is 3.8 So as your FD is cooling, the plexiglass is transferring heat from the room to the chamber, causing a longer cooling cycle, costing more money. On the other side, the FD will need to work harder keeping a consistent drying heat as it is always loosing heat to the outside. Again costing you more money. And yes, I am one of those engineering types.

  • @BWT599

    @BWT599

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you sir.

  • @brucejohnson1264

    @brucejohnson1264

    2 жыл бұрын

    How can it provide insulation if there is no air in the chamber? No air, no air movement, and no convection or conduction.

  • @jaymemaurice

    @jaymemaurice

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@brucejohnson1264 the initial freeze cycle is not under vacuum. It has to get to -17c first. This will be faster with the pillow. In fact my freeze drier isn't getting to -17c if I let it cool and not load it right away. I think this is because the humidity gets on the sensor and insulates it. Ice is 0degrees.

  • @jsigmo

    @jsigmo

    2 жыл бұрын

    The melting/freezing point of pure water is 0 degrees C. But frozen ice can be cooled to any temperature below that. Think of ice cubes straight from your freezer. If you have wet hands, they'll freeze that water and stick to your fingers when you handle them. That's because those cubes straight from your freezer are at the freezer's temperature, which is well below freezing. When we use an ice/water mixture for thermometer calibration, the NIST guideline is to make an "ice slush with the ice particles the consistency of a snow cone" (Their actual words). This is important, because ice particles that size are small enough to rapidly equalize in temperature with the surrounding water/ice mixture, and yet large enough to not melt too quickly. Using ice cubes in water for thermometer calibration is a problem because the big cubes may stay well below the freezing point for a long time. Thus, your thermometer will be too cold when it's in contact with a cube, but be too warm when it's out in a space between cubes. Use deionized water, Grind the DI ice to be the consistency of a snow cone. Add only enough DI water to barely fill the void space between the ice particles, and pour off excess water as the slush melts, and you will have a very accurate thermometer calibration bath.

  • @oldmech619

    @oldmech619

    Жыл бұрын

    Should of had a power meter to find out the power instead of time. Enjoyed the video

  • @MelissaOsten
    @MelissaOsten2 жыл бұрын

    Do you have a video about the moisture meter that you use? What it is and how to use it? Thanks 😊

  • @omahanb1
    @omahanb12 жыл бұрын

    I just run the vacuum test for a few seconds to set the seal before I start the freeze dry. I tried milk but it tastes like defrost ice and machine metal.

  • @sparrowmoses48
    @sparrowmoses48 Жыл бұрын

    One comment said about the interior of the pillow getting nasty -- aren't they a 100% moisture proof covering? * I'm thinking this: attach a temperature strip to the middle inside of the door. Record it at various times during the process, with and without pillow. Doesn't the machine tell you how cold it is inside? Write that and times down, too. Compare. Oh, and kWh for each

  • @arnoldreiter435
    @arnoldreiter4353 жыл бұрын

    i have the small model received it with no pillow and it works just fine. i like that i can see how the food is during the process. Pillow or no pillow is not a problem unless you make it one. Do what works for you. Brian will you be making the dividers for the small dryer? i would buy a set.

  • @live.life.simple.

    @live.life.simple.

    3 жыл бұрын

    We don't have plans for the small as of now

  • @bc24roxy4

    @bc24roxy4

    3 жыл бұрын

    it is harder to find supplies for the small one. I just got mine and it is the small FD. I found a website that John in Bibs on YT uses. they are stainless steel dividers. frozenright.com and they have the dividers for small freeze dryers but they are $56 plus $20 for shipping. they have the tray grates too but not in small. would love some of those

  • @lauran6184
    @lauran61843 жыл бұрын

    I always thought the pillow was to protect the plexiglass from constant extreme temps. Makes it last longer

  • @ploveforeveryours

    @ploveforeveryours

    2 жыл бұрын

    I always used my pillow, tried for the first time on my last run, and my plexiglass door has a bunch of micro cracks all inside it now 🥺

  • @lauran6184

    @lauran6184

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ploveforeveryours aww that stinks. Sorry to hear that.

  • @Linda-dw8wd

    @Linda-dw8wd

    Жыл бұрын

    I think you are correct. I may look into making a plexiglass shield. Saw one KZreadr do it and makes more sense bc you can still see.

  • @camilleramirez8753
    @camilleramirez87533 жыл бұрын

    We received ours today! Woohoo! Quick question. We are in Houston Tx, the only dedicated 20 amp is in the garage, but it is so hot and humid. Should I run a dedicated 20 amp inside my house instead? Thanks! Love your videos.

  • @live.life.simple.

    @live.life.simple.

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, it needs to be in a climate controlled area.

  • @camilleramirez8753

    @camilleramirez8753

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@live.life.simple. thank you so much!

  • @larrywebster3325
    @larrywebster33253 жыл бұрын

    My medium Havest Right arrived a couple of weeks ago with no pillow. I called them and they do not include the pillow any more. Too many issues with them and they said they're not necessary.

  • @Bullfrog0302
    @Bullfrog03023 жыл бұрын

    I fd with out the pillow,, I noticed more moisture on the door I'm keeping the pillow

  • @mlydick
    @mlydick Жыл бұрын

    Can I ask at the end of your cycle you used a laser thermometer to measure what you were perceiving to be as the food being done. Can you please explain what the laser thermometers function is in determining whether or not the food has been completely dehydrated?

  • @hollybishop2095
    @hollybishop20952 жыл бұрын

    Was there a difference in the amount of ice buildup between pillow/no pillow?

  • @lizakin1274
    @lizakin12742 жыл бұрын

    So when you mix the different foods, do the smells not effect the rest of the food in the other trays?

  • @anthonycassata5152
    @anthonycassata5152 Жыл бұрын

    We are new to this. We are waiting on our freeze dryer to be deliver to our house. I have been preparing and having everything ready so when it comes, we can get started. I have been working on a stand/cabinet for it, almost done, although I’m sure it will be an ongoing project as most of mine are. We opted for the large one. So I got the dimensions for it and the pump from the website, I plan on making a drawer for some of the accessories and the rest will be on the bottom of the stand. Having said all that, does anyone know what the overall dimensions of the sealer are? Any help would be helpful. Thank you Tony C.

  • @timwatson1544
    @timwatson1544Ай бұрын

    1 hr and 22min. Is a significant amount of time and electricity saved. I think i would use it. Or buy one. Where can i buy one?

  • @19TheDan
    @19TheDan Жыл бұрын

    My thoughts on this are, its less than a 5% difference between the two. Meaning that it most likely doesn't do much if at all. I come from dynoing cars, it take 3 runs in the same environment and I've seen anywhere from 2% to 10% fluctuation. No 3 tests are the same. If it was like 5 hours or even 3 hours difference I would say it helps. But I believe that if you did a few more runs it would vary between the 2. With pillow shorter on some and Without pillow would be shorter as well. Unless you saw like 15% difference in power usage as well I would say the results are far too close to call.

  • @live.life.simple.

    @live.life.simple.

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree

  • @gaileudaly9457
    @gaileudaly94573 жыл бұрын

    I have so much condensation on door. Think pillow would help with that? Wrote this before I read the posts below.

  • @lauraandersen6264
    @lauraandersen6264 Жыл бұрын

    Can I freeze dry tomatoes and green peppers together

  • @errcl65
    @errcl653 жыл бұрын

    Hydro usage comparison with and without pillow?

  • @billholder253
    @billholder2533 жыл бұрын

    Here is a major update to Evan Rowell's video named "vacuum packing Mylar in a freeze dryer". He is demonstrating simple clamps made of chopsticks used to overcome a minor vacuum packing challenges. He will also caution you about a problem and a solution to something you may not have thought of but can damage your vacuum pump. He is working on making an external filter which could be of more value than what he shows in the video, "Bread and other useless freeze drying endeavors". Please watch.

  • @ittaphei
    @ittaphei3 жыл бұрын

    IDEA for video? Vacuum Pump Owner's Manual, page 06 item 5. Is there a white filter inside the Premier or just the original pump? I have Premier and don't see a white filter. Haven't seen anything in any videos.

  • @arthurdunn9136
    @arthurdunn91363 жыл бұрын

    My Freeze Dryer arrived yesterday (without a pillow) and I'm about to commission it with a bread-run. Looking at the comments below, I believe that a pillow has advantages - less condensation and shorter run times. It is winter here and the current humidity is 95%, so I suspect lots of condensation. If excessive, my wife has offered to make a pillow. Need to research the most suitable materials. Not providing pillows because some users don't fit them correctly, seems a bit like "Throwing the proverbial baby out with the bathwater", We'll see how it goes!

  • @leeayn133

    @leeayn133

    2 жыл бұрын

    did your wife make a pillow? did it work well? if so, can I order one from her?

  • @arthurdunn9136

    @arthurdunn9136

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@leeayn133 no, not made one yet. One of the million things we need to do having moved into a new house.

  • @deltonsearles9832
    @deltonsearles98322 жыл бұрын

    Did they take the pillow away because of the foam off gassing problem?? My last CPAP device removed it in a recall... possibly the same thing??

  • @starrmiller8737
    @starrmiller87373 жыл бұрын

    My unit gets delivered next week. From reading through comments I definitely want a pillow. Can someone share with me dimensions of a medium pillow so I can make one? Thanks

  • @susansmith574

    @susansmith574

    2 жыл бұрын

    13 1/4 inch circle

  • @cglazier100
    @cglazier100 Жыл бұрын

    I just got my freeze dryer and we don't have a pillow since its new. However does your freeze dryer have moisture drip off the front and the seal around it has frost? Just making sure mine is ok. Also the front of the door by the end had frost all on the front. Wanting to make sure mine is working right. It took way longer to do the bread like you suggested for our first run before we start batches. It made me wonder if I needed a pillow or not.

  • @live.life.simple.

    @live.life.simple.

    Жыл бұрын

    If you live in a humid climate, you will have condensation. Very similar to a cold drink in the summer. There is a lady in our Facebook group by the name of Joanne Logan

  • @greyballer1671
    @greyballer1671 Жыл бұрын

    When I was in the army in the 1980s they took away our full auto m-16s and gave us 3 round burst m-16s because they thought we were too stupid to conserve ammo... the pillow thing reminds me of that. Too many morons can't figure it out so nobody gets a pillow

  • @live.life.simple.

    @live.life.simple.

    Жыл бұрын

    😂 I think HR got sick of people having vacuum errors

  • @oscar33212
    @oscar332129 ай бұрын

    The dividers have to slow the sloshing about while moving and loading your trays.

  • @melindastraub8889
    @melindastraub8889 Жыл бұрын

    I just got my medium freeze dryer. I have had condensation dripping off the rubber gasket around the door, I don't feel any cold air escaping from the door. I have yet to have a successful load of product. I currently have 3 trays of sliced apricots, 2 trays of raspberries and the machine is still saying "drying" at 45 hours..... suggestions?

  • @gregvisage6186
    @gregvisage61862 жыл бұрын

    I just got my dryer, can you tell me why Ice builds up on the outside of my door seal

  • @0xAlex
    @0xAlex Жыл бұрын

    How much liquid do you add to the cashew squares??

  • @readyalready4697
    @readyalready46973 жыл бұрын

    An extra grand for the better pump. Plus the time I took off work to use it. All waisted at this point

  • @annwithaplan9766
    @annwithaplan97663 жыл бұрын

    Is there a coupon code for the new dividers? Thanks.

  • @live.life.simple.

    @live.life.simple.

    3 жыл бұрын

    Possibly in the future😀

  • @michaellevitz9277
    @michaellevitz92772 жыл бұрын

    I was told that the pillow makes the condenser not have to work as hard. Did you measure your electricity consumption? Wouldn’t that information also help? Obviously it’s using more power due to the duration of run time. Is the extra run time due to freezing longer or the software knows it needs to run longer?

  • @live.life.simple.

    @live.life.simple.

    2 жыл бұрын

    Each unit and different pumps will change usage. If it's a big factor for you, there are people that sell the pillows

  • @TandBKount
    @TandBKount3 жыл бұрын

    QUESTION RE: CART: What is the cart that you have the freeze dryer on and where did you find it? It looks so much nicer than the plastic one HR promotes. I just received my Small size HR FD and am currently keeping it on my counter.

  • @Tracyann_

    @Tracyann_

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have the same question... my large freezer dryer seems to heavy for the polypropylene cart I purchased for it.

  • @ok2x

    @ok2x

    3 жыл бұрын

    i believe that is a “uline steel push cart “ there are many brands that make them

  • @TandBKount

    @TandBKount

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Be_Great Thank you! I'll check it out.

  • @gt9390
    @gt93903 жыл бұрын

    I just received my freeze dryer and I have completed my test freeze and first (bread) freeze. I had condensation on the outside of the door. Is this normal? It is in my basement and somewhat high in moisture. Thanks.

  • @live.life.simple.

    @live.life.simple.

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes it is normal. I run a dehumidifier and I still get condensation

  • @juanitadafler7233
    @juanitadafler72332 жыл бұрын

    My new one, right out of the box I can not get it to complete a vacuum freeze. I have all sorts of condensation around the bottom of my door, yes it's locked. What do you recommend for me to do?

  • @user-qi6pm8vx6e
    @user-qi6pm8vx6e9 ай бұрын

    I'm new to freeze drying a Lil worried what happens if it gets done & I'm not home to drain it?

  • @Sally-uw3yo
    @Sally-uw3yo2 жыл бұрын

    How do you get a pillow if machine comes without one?

  • @nunyabiz4460
    @nunyabiz44602 жыл бұрын

    I was wondering because my freeze-dryer came without one.

  • @chiefandprepper
    @chiefandprepper2 жыл бұрын

    so for a cube of dried milk how much water did you add back to rehydrate?

  • @bluewolf4915

    @bluewolf4915

    2 жыл бұрын

    weigh the tray before and after to determine how much water was removed then add that much back.

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