Punk is just this close to saying "Im going to win because it's best for business."

@mattb6616

2 жыл бұрын

He can't say that because he would be so obviously correct it wouldn't work as a heel line. Hangman has been a disaster for ratings

@christophermarriott1681

2 жыл бұрын

@@mattb6616 Hangman hasn't been a disaster for ratings, kid. Another clueless mark.

@pietronasoni5345

2 жыл бұрын

@@mattb6616 Nobody should care about ratings cause they don't reflect the quality of the product. This was fantastic and nothing else matters

@Charsi_Escobar

2 жыл бұрын

@@pietronasoni5345 Tony Khan cares very much about the ratings, I promise you

@pietronasoni5345

2 жыл бұрын

@@Charsi_Escobar do I look like Tony Khan my brother? I just enjoy the product as you should, ratings are numbers for people who got nothing else to worry about

i like that both reactions had a mix of cheers and boos

Anything with Punk involved is going to be intense and brings out the best in his opponent! Dude is a GOAT candidate without a doubt!

@LAZ_YGO

2 жыл бұрын

Speaking of goats, I loved the goat part from Jeff Hardy's promo.

@Am0ment0fB

2 жыл бұрын

That was page's best? No wonder he sucks so badly. Ha.

@2jebeal

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly that's why I'm CM Punk is still considered the best in the world he's going to bring the best out of people every match he been in has been nothing but great and he makes his opponent look good too and yet Eric Bischoff had the audacity of saying he's a financial failure in aew and yet double or nothing has completely sold out and the first match announced was CM Punk versus Hangman Adam Paige that match alone has already sold out the show because people know this match is going to be great

@garyfeuer1071

2 жыл бұрын

Not for page , he is in over his head and it shows - over compensating during his promo was a clear signal- he's not ready for any of this

@lonesome_commie

2 жыл бұрын

@@garyfeuer1071 he's learning and this was a decent effort. of course he isn't an MJF and definitely not an Eddie Kingston. But he's got time and tine in the ring with the likes of Punk is gonna help his character work a lot

I feel like the inevitable story is gonna be Punk turning heel. Hangman sees who he really is but couldn't say it outright because he knew the people would turn on him (fits with his anxious character)

@ArkAngelHFB

2 жыл бұрын

He knew what Punk really was... but he didn't have the confidence to say it out loud.

@sbd2331

2 жыл бұрын

He's a snake!

@parsath_2584

2 жыл бұрын

@@sbd2331 I'll say it. His promo on Sunday starts with "I'm still a snake you stupid sons of bitches."

@cliffordjackson3

2 жыл бұрын

@@ArkAngelHFB FACTS.

@ltw0303

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah and after the match it makes sense then I’m ok with it. Just don’t drag it out because they aren’t rematching with Forbidden door coming up

This promo from Page felt like he was having a different conversation with Punk

This was the start of it all. Hangman want in business for himself

That segment was emotional as hell

Am I the only one that thought Hangman was all over the place in his promo? A lot of it didn’t make sense until the end

@ItDoesntMatterReally

2 жыл бұрын

Nope, not just you. This whole feud has felt like Punk's trying to give a deeper meaning to something that just isn't there. Every promo feels like he's pulling teeth just to hype this match to make it seem like he's not just another brand name tomato can for Page to knock down to pad his reign, and Hangman hasn't been much help. It's sad because it's made me dread either outcome. If Page wins, it's just another short run program in a reign that's desperate for a longterm rivalry. If Punk wins, I worry about Page being able to regain any level of legitimacy because all of the bigger and more interesting contenders that'll be next in line. This match doesn't need another kneejerk heel turn in an AEW title picture, or another worked shoot angle between two guys with little more than immediate history, or another time limit draw finish. What it does need is something to actually make it interesting and not all about Punk, and maybe a followup match after there's a finish that could spike enough intrigue to warrant a rematch.

This. I think AEW is setting up a heel turn for CM Punk. Hangman was heavily insinuating that CM is not what he seems in front of the crowd. Hangman is motivated with righteous anger. More, the suddenness of the build and the fact that Hangman's pipebomb was only hinted at the go-home show means that this feud is not a one-and-done. CM Punk as heel champ with Hangman chasing is good TV. But I sure damn want to see Hangman retain.

@readeroftruths9113

2 жыл бұрын

Bret Hart vs Stone cold mania finish. Hangman’s Stone cold punk will be Hart

@willt8848

2 жыл бұрын

@@readeroftruths9113 How about come up with an original idea?

@willt8848

2 жыл бұрын

You're going to turn him heel when the ppv after this is in Chicago? Smh

@derekfogel7682

2 жыл бұрын

@@willt8848 what’s that matter? He will be cheered in Chicago anyway. Look at MJF in Long Island

@larryking1447

2 жыл бұрын

@@willt8848 Dude you sound so misserble 🤣

I really like when Hangman start, he just rambling about his hatred for punk but the more it goes, the more it really highlight why he really dislike Punk. This feel like Kingston vs Punk for me. It is also interesting to note that this is Punk first fued with "the elite" that built aew.

@Hulkling93

2 жыл бұрын

There's got to me more to this feud because it is an actual question of, "What did Punk do to you?" Page didn't have this animosity toward Bryan until Bryan became a dick. I really thought that it would be a case of Page's anger is because he feels like Punk did in 2012 as champ: overshadowed and etc by the popular name.

@Bl_Radio

Жыл бұрын

Page is a f***ing idiot. He was way out of line.

Page didn’t say it because he probably couldn’t say it, but I’m pretty sure this is as close as Page could get to mentioning Colt Cabana in a promo against Punk.

@deejayguppy6087

2 ай бұрын

"I did it... for da Colt. I did it... for the Elite... I did it... I did... ah shut your mouth, you garbage John Wayne!"

Hangman stepped it up I got to be honest, defiantly 70 percent of that came from the heart. There you have it, a compliment to see from me

@kbottrill1

2 жыл бұрын

Defiantly? Like as in an act of defiance? Or you mean definitely? Because either way I think what you’re saying is true

What makes me so excited about this match is that for the first time, there is no clear winner for the AEW title. Every other time the belt has been defended on PPV, there was an obvious choice as to who was the right guy to walk away with the title around their waist and Tony Khan made sure that the right man won. Now though, I can really see it go both ways, CM Punk's return has been one for the books with must watch matches & promos, you can tell that it will eventually lead to being world champion again, but the years of build up for Hangman Page to become the face of AEW make me feel like there is more that they still want to tell with him as champion.

I have a feeling there's a big surprise coming. I think Page is retaining but with help. Watch the very end of Dontaku and the last things that was said.

@4oclockHereHuhHUH

2 жыл бұрын

Is the PPV this weekend?

@joshgutteridge2909

2 жыл бұрын

@@4oclockHereHuhHUH sunday

@4oclockHereHuhHUH

2 жыл бұрын

@@joshgutteridge2909 thank you

@lokigator

Жыл бұрын

Oh there was a surprise coming alright lol

If Punk doesn’t turn heel on Sunday I will be stunned.

Well 1 year on, Punk is in WWE, their house shows are selling out 10k plus and AEW are struggling to get 4k into a dynamite. Well done hangman

I think they're saving Hangmans big promo for after he loses the title to punk. What it sounded like to me is Hangman wanted to tell punk about himself, but he realized being that angry guy isn't him and he doesn't want to stoop to Punks level. So he'll just let his match do the talking. The problem is, if punk has gotten him angry, he's out of his game and can make a mistake that punk capitalizes on to win the title.

@shikikkaneddy

2 жыл бұрын

**and will

The spectre of Punk's past sins have come to the forefront. Pretty stellar storytelling. Easily the best in mainstream pro wrestling right now. He's a villain in plain sight and no one sees it.

@keni95851

2 жыл бұрын

what past sins

@debapriyomukhopadhyay2329

2 жыл бұрын

Supervillain!!!!

@jasonmccrank4981

2 жыл бұрын

@@keni95851 His dastardly reveal in ROH (that MJF riffed on during their feud) and signing his WWE contract on the ROH title and his various misdeeds in WWE eg. mocking Jeff Hardy's addiction problems; his 423 title reign in WWE; pouring "Paul Bearer's" ashes on the Undertaker etc. etc. etc. His best work has always been as a villain.

@keni95851

2 жыл бұрын

@@jasonmccrank4981 so using WWFs kayfabe in AEWs creative. I'm supposed to believe Hangman is mad about angles Punk admitted are a work? 🤣🤣🤣 wow people are gullible

@MrTeamGuy

2 жыл бұрын

@@keni95851 Punk mentioned those things as something he done, nowhere I've seen him admit it was a work

I didn’t think this made any sense at all. The fire and intensity was great, but at no point did I actually understand what Punk has done to anger him. Why is he not this angry with Keith Lee or Swerve or any of the other guys who came over from WWE?

@drobinson-uo7ic

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, there's been no clarity to build this storyline.

@crooker23

2 жыл бұрын

Punk has been mocking him in the ring and on commentary for weeks.

@Hulkling93

2 жыл бұрын

@@crooker23 Page talked about destroying him and dressed down a Punk fan in the crowd BEFORE Punk even did that.

SUMMER OF PUNK 🔥 COMING SOON!!!!

Where was the outrage of hangman going into business for himself

I really think they dropped the ball with punk saying it's not personal, it's just business. Hangman's reaction should have been that of course it's personal to him. That Danielson, Cole, and Punk have come in and been all about business and tried to take the spotlight from the AEW originals. That for people like Hanger, Darby, Jungle Boy, and countless others that this is personal every single night because they love AEW, and they aren't just coming in on the coat tails of a revolution, they are a revolution.

@skateplusrice

2 жыл бұрын

we need them to say this in their promos

It’s getting more consistent for promos against Punk to contain the fact that the locker room does not like CM Punk.

@jesusmysaviourable1

2 жыл бұрын

The point and story is very easy to say without any real heat .you build a company from the scratch suddenly the biggest draw is a veteran who quit the proffession who makes a return after 7 years suddenly every pundits want him to be champion the journey of the home grown guys doesn't matter

@Tzgrey77

2 жыл бұрын

@@jesusmysaviourable1 thars why im with hangman. "It's nothing personal it's just business" bs it is ! Hangman didn't have a 3-year art just for some Chicago boy to come in and steal it all

@jesusmysaviourable1

2 жыл бұрын

@@Tzgrey77 this is Not entirely punk's fault either the fault lies with wrestling pundit they all love inside a balloon so sure they're always right.

@AdrianBeegoatz

2 жыл бұрын

The ‘home grown’ guy already got the title. That’s Hangman right now. But honestly, he was booked like a joke every single day UNTIL the day he became champion. And he’s been an unconvincing champion. Outperformed from Day 1 by Danielson, who should have beat him for title. Now Page rightfully defeated Cole, who has been booked like a bigger joke. But when put side-by-side with Punk, we all know who should be the top guy. Let’s be real. Time for the Hangman experiment to end. Punk for champ is best for business, and best for putting some serious rub on the championship. That is, until the next ‘home grown’ guy who has actually earned the spot and deserves the top prize comes along: MJF. A man so dedicated to his craft, it will honestly be a travesty if Tony Khan doesn’t negotiate and keep him for the long term. The guy is top tier pro wrestler. And the best non-former-WWE wrestler on their entire roster.

@jesusmysaviourable1

2 жыл бұрын

@@AdrianBeegoatz you see this is the problem.

Page totally came across as someone threatened by Punk and jealous, afraid... Worried for his spot

@keni95851

2 жыл бұрын

came across as a shit promo

@Hulkling93

2 жыл бұрын

That's why I wondered when Page cut that first promo was it a case that due to all the fan reaction Punk has received and expectancy of Punk being champion, that Page feels like Punk did toward Cena and Rock back in 2012.

Just what the people want.. 3 more months of Page

You know, I can say right now, Sept. 05, 2022. Punk was right at being mad at him. Hangman was trying to do business for himself and the boys in this promo, and I understand, I get why you would hate Punk or guys like him because he can be an asshole, but he was in the wrong right here because Punk was a babyface. He needs to understand the business. You can't bury the babyfaces or else, your company would not draw for lack of "legimitacy", kayfabe speaking. MJF's promo were spot on because he spoke on actual facts that everybody knew what happened, but this was bs, and I thought Punk was in the wrong of course at calling him out on promo time because Hangman is a babyface too, and media scrum was a disaster too, but now I get why Punk was very mad. And the swings he took I also disagree with that, but Hangman started this.

Considering the build hasn't been all that, I'm expecting the story to be told entirely in the ring. As has been the case with Hanger's reign.

@khesipresents1885

2 жыл бұрын

thats just stuff for smarks....a feud needs a storyline told outside just the ring

@mattb6616

2 жыл бұрын

It's not like hangman is capable of doing anything outside the ring, so he kind of has to

@parsath_2584

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it wasn't like he had a 2 year build up leading to him winning the title.

@willt8848

2 жыл бұрын

@@parsath_2584 You clearly don't know what a two year build is. Being in the dork order for a two years then Tony remembering he promised the title to Page at the end of last summer is not a build. Build has to be consistent and ongoing

@christophermarriott1681

2 жыл бұрын

@@willt8848 You don't know what the hell you're talking about. Watch the damn shows.

That was an awesome segment & I could sense punk's heel turn coming ooor another summer of punk coming,, although I wanna a bit more Hangman reign/ another succesful ppv title defense of Hangman but punk as champion will b intriguing to see,, that's why I'm confident this match is 1 of the most important match in Aew history. Punk is wearing black t shirt, & Hangman is wearing white, DOES THAT MEAN SOMETHING?? I CAN ASSUME, YES!!!

The motivation for this feud makes zero sense. Literally everything we have heard about Punk backstage has been glowing.

@keni95851

2 жыл бұрын

@@DivertingTales "he shoot dislikes punk"🤣🤣🤣 what mark

Yup the more you know, the more it hit you.

I honestly think this feud has been lackluster. There are so many things they could have done that would have shot this into the next level and on par with the best feuds in AEW history. You have maybe the best talker in the business in the last 20 years, and a white hot babyface champ riding the crest of a wave. What we got is - Hangman and Punk staring at each other for a couple of weeks, Punk using Hangman's finisher and Page getting upset, Hangman using Punk's finisher and Punk just smiling and clapping. And the face to face this week, on the go home show. Yes it was an intense promo, specially from Hangman, but I can't help but feel how different this feud could have been. These are just my 2 cents: 1. They could have mentioned Page's drinking and Punk being straight-edge. I know maybe because of Moxley they didn't want to go in that direction, and also because Page quit drinking on camera recently. But I am damn sure if it was MJF and Page feuding, MJF would definitely have brought this up. And it would generate a lot of heat too! 2. They could have leaned on Punk being old (certainly older than most of the guys on the roster) and Hangman being much younger and one for the future. The old man vs. future star trope that we see so much in wrestling, except in this case you know Punk would have sold the sh!t out of it. 3. Hangman's changed demeanor recently in his feuds with Archer and Cole. How he was turning into the person he didn't want to be. Punk could have driven home this point, and in the process continued Hangman's story into the next chapter.

@harishsubramanian1241

2 жыл бұрын

I have to agree with what you said, I honestly still don't understand why Hangman has an issue with Punk in the first place.

@harishsubramanian1241

2 жыл бұрын

@@DivertingTales it's one thing for a feud to build itself on subtleties, but there's literally no indication as to why Hangman feels this way. At least with Eddie there was a clear cut, no nonsense, straight to the point explanation as to why he didn't like Punk. Hangman? Has no prior history with Punk as they've never once worked in the same promotion up until now. So why he feels this way is not explained or shown properly.

@shikikkaneddy

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe because this match isn't the blow-off but pretty much the next step in the overall story . They have plenty of time to visit those points and more , what happens at DoN will determine what will come next

Mox is currently "#2" right? And MJF needs to get that belt at some point in the not too distant future, perhaps from Mr Page? Too many big match options and title contenders. What a problem to have

@ShinSuperSaiyajin

2 жыл бұрын

to paraphrase Jim Ross, preferably MJF should win the title by the end of 2022

@Kratosx23

2 жыл бұрын

MJF winning the title is off the table until 2024. They're not putting the title on him until the day he's locked in to a new deal. Forget it until then, sadly.

for the love of cheese we got to get the belt off Hangman to MJF prunto!!

Weird and confusing promo. Still don't understand why page is mad

Think the punch looked so real....well bc it was pretty friggin real

“Most people expect Punk to win”. Um really? From what I seen people have no clue it could go either way. But I do think it’s leaning towards Punk but after tonight idk

@keni95851

2 жыл бұрын

yeah he's winning, clearly

@readeroftruths9113

2 жыл бұрын

@@keni95851 nah Cheif it’s not 100%

@j.m.vofficial6113

2 жыл бұрын

@@keni95851 dude idk I want cm punk to win but I heard hangman might turn full heel and keep the title and cm punk could get a rematch at forbidden door some people think punk might be heel 🤷‍♂️

@JUnior-ot1xu

2 жыл бұрын

@@readeroftruths9113 next 2 ppv’s r in Chicago and then hangman stood tall on the go home show come on I wonder who’s gonna win

@khesipresents1885

2 жыл бұрын

@@readeroftruths9113 its never 100%,no one thought jinder would pin randy for world title

WWF STYLE MOVING MATCH GRAPHICS ARE FREAKN AWESOME 🤩 OMG I LOVE AEW ❤️ ❤️❤️

Holy smokes what a segment we didn’t understand 😂

If Page wins clean at DoN (per Meltzer's booking), how does Punk force a rematch? I assume through a contenders match/tournament i guess?

@keni95851

2 жыл бұрын

because "magic"

@kbottrill1

2 жыл бұрын

It can happen organically. For example, before Hangman got his title shot against Omega, he lost in the 6 man elimination match against the Elite and months later became the Joker of the ladder match, which we all knew meant it was his time to finally win and get that title shot.

@keni95851

2 жыл бұрын

@@kbottrill1 great way to make a guy look like a contender, make him a drunk, hang out with jobbers, lose your shot, then he gets another shot magically (RaNkiNgs MatTeR🙄) to lead to a predictable end. THAT'S HOW YOU BUILD A TOP LEVEL MEGASTAR 🤣

@Kratosx23

2 жыл бұрын

How did Cole force it? Just ask for it. There's no logic. These rankings aren't adhered to, it's all horseshit.

@kbottrill1

2 жыл бұрын

@@keni95851 that's a clown comment if I've ever seen one

Page said a lot of words there but I still don't really understand what he's mad about.

@bennyomega9153

2 жыл бұрын

He said exactly why he was mad. You're one of those pretend to have seen it guys. Or very dim.

@dariussparkes7080

2 жыл бұрын

@@bennyomega9153 No. It was all over the place.. somewhat like 'grasping at straws'

@dividoguy

2 жыл бұрын

@@bennyomega9153 I also didn't get it. Maybe I'm dim...

@bigtoken90

2 жыл бұрын

@@dariussparkes7080 that was the point

@keni95851

2 жыл бұрын

@@dariussparkes7080 benny's just a dyed in the woll mark. he loves everything they do without question. just turn your brain off and say I LOVE AEW.

Ironic that Phil Brooks hates Kevin Nash but ended up cutting a Kevin Nash promo

@BlueEyesWhitePrivilege

2 жыл бұрын

What is a Kevin Nash Promo

@sassytroy8282

2 жыл бұрын

@@BlueEyesWhitePrivilege right lol. Must have used big words and mentioned people no one really knows....

@Absinthexx7

2 жыл бұрын

I’m assuming he means the summer of punk “what I did was just business” thing lol. I think it’s a bit of a stretch but I get it I think

@CK2008able

2 жыл бұрын

Nash said that he and Punk got on really well when they worked together

@justinthunder6284

2 жыл бұрын

Did he tell him to look at the adjective, play?

Bryan just got across Hangmans promo better than Hangman did. It was really difficult to see what pages point was during his ramble. I could figure it out, since I follow it very closely. But I don't think your average fan was able to understand him.

@BigFresh37

2 жыл бұрын

I think he was alluding to Punk making AEW wait a few years before signing? But I agree, it wasn’t clear.

@duhlorean5991

2 жыл бұрын

He clearly alluded to Punk being different behind the scenes. I think the point came across even if it was slightly unfocused at times.

@Kratosx23

2 жыл бұрын

Are you surprised by that? Alvarez is an amazing promo and Hangman sucks.

@MyChannel-ol1zz

2 жыл бұрын

I understood the words Page said without Bryan. Just not entirely sure why he’s mad at Punk.

@alexmonro1711

2 жыл бұрын

The problem is that as far as I know there's really never been any mention of Punk having issues in AEW anywhere before this. It was completely random and came out of nowhere

Sooo...Is there something to those comments then Dave?! Otherwise, I don't think anyone watching has any idea what Adam was talking about or saying in general. I have heard zero about any issues with Punk at AEW, whether real or storyline. It just seemed like Adam was teasing something and then didn't follow through. I'm assuming DoN with not be the end of Page/Punk.

@Tzgrey77

2 жыл бұрын

That's why you watch Observer live and you can actually get some comments instead of Dave rambling for 20 minutes

Lots of folks that only live by the week in the Comments . AEW has proven time and time again that we can "Let it play out" on stories like these , and most importantly : Creates intrigue. What does Page mean with what he said? Isn't Punk acting suspicious? Tune in Sunday to find out

The genesis of the mindy’s muffin media scrum promo.

Bret and HBK levels 😂😂😂. Dave what you smoking?

@mattb6616

2 жыл бұрын

Hes on harder shit than weed if he wants to 50 50 book this angle

@duckmercy11

2 жыл бұрын

He prefaced the comment by saying it wasn't necessarily as good, but reminded him of that. Relax.

@alr1129

Жыл бұрын

Now it makes a bit more sense

It was so good a promo that my stream dropped several times during that segment! :\

They should do PPVs like this on Sat

I don’t know what’s the heat is so the promo made no sense to me

@SirBarneyGumble

2 жыл бұрын

If you've been paying attention, ever since Punk got to AEW, he's been playing it up that he's just a humble veteran trying to do the right things, but Hangman isn't buying his BS. The thicker Punk puts it on, the more frustrated Hangman gets. He's trying to expose Punk for the snake that Hangman believes him to be.

@ltw0303

2 жыл бұрын

@@SirBarneyGumble dude then why not just say that ? He kept beating around the bush , trying to be to “inside” Meltzer comparing this to Brett Shawn is stupid. Shawn and Brett had a history, Page and Punk have zero history. It was like Cena vs Punk but reversed roles. Like I said if they pay it off at the PPV ? All good but if it ends up being the White Bronco then I don’t get it

This all goes back to Kingston's promo on Punk's true nature being a kniving snake. They emphasize how he's a "new, happy Punk" a lot. The greatest trick the Devil played was to convince the world that he doesn't exist. I can totally see him winning the belt, going though all of the young guys he promised to elevate, like Cena and Triple H did, and then there will be only the least likely "hero" to stop him - MJF

@keni95851

2 жыл бұрын

no one believes that

@duzted

2 жыл бұрын

Conniving* :)

@Kratosx23

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, let's absolutely not have MJF's first title win be as a babyface. Let's just not. He needs to beat Punk, yes, but not as a babyface and Punk as a heel. That's braindead.

@Ceiling_Gato

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kratosx23 Where did I say that he will win as a babyface

@johngaither4134

2 жыл бұрын

Nah, Eddie Kingston has to be the one to beat heel punk. Then MJF can take it from Eddie.

If I wanna Watch Wrestling AI but it's lagging pretty bad these days, where is a good spot for DoN? Inflation whooping my ass

Punk is turning heel and winning the title. It’s been clear as day for months.

It was a good segment, but a lot of AEW wrestlers need promo classes.

@sangan3202

2 жыл бұрын

please teach them mr professional

@khesipresents1885

2 жыл бұрын

@DioLoki like 90% of them,not saying wwe is any better with people like liv,rhea ,fourhorsewomen

@mattb6616

2 жыл бұрын

@DioLoki Ricky starks is currently the only champion in the company who knows how to work a mic. That's bad.

@MrGanjie

2 жыл бұрын

@@mattb6616 scorpion could arguably talk alright and hangman isn't bad either Not veteran talkers but not bad

This sounded like the first chaptet of a great story

I gotta admit I have no idea what Page was talking about

I don’t know if you have Hangman win here. I don’t think it’ll kill his future if he loses (maybe Punk does something slightly not on-the-level or something to further that story). Page has had a decent run as champ, has a PPV defense along with all the other big matches he’s had on Dynamite, so his run is definitely not a bust. Plus, a lot of times, wrestlers second runs are better than their first. As mentioned, he’s young and has many more opportunities ahead. With Punk, he is undoubtedly one of, if not AEW’s biggest stars at the moment. I don’t think it’s “rushing” if he wins it here, as he’s been involved in several programs so far (including what may be AEWs best one yet with MJF). I also don’t think you have Punk win it on Dynamite or something, so it would have to be here, as I don’t think they want the same match two PPV’s in a row. I think now may be the time to pull the trigger. Could go either way though, there are legitimate arguments for both sides, I just think the arguments for Punk are stronger at the moment, but who knows? I do like not having the best idea what the outcome will be though, it makes for far more compelling viewing.

I dont wanna see hangman lose, but a heel punk would create a great chase for the next challenger.

Why isn't FTR on the PPV? Smh.

@kingslayer2999

2 жыл бұрын

Because of Bad nonsensical Booking that's why

@shikikkaneddy

2 жыл бұрын

@@kingslayer2999 this isn't the WWE , pal

I was mostly confused, but maybe I was not fully awake yet. (European here)

Lol this is like bret and Shawn 😆 🤣 😂 damn dave what are you on... page talked in circles and cm punk said if it wasn't for me, you wouldn't be here. Shake my hand...

@BlueEyesWhitePrivilege

2 жыл бұрын

He also said "I don't think this was as good as that." He wasn't comparing their quality but the possible circumstances of the story you dork

@1234sand1

2 жыл бұрын

@@BlueEyesWhitePrivilege it is in no way like bret and shawn. Get off the d... uncle Dave isn't gonna be with you, he's your Mona Lisa.

@BlueEyesWhitePrivilege

2 жыл бұрын

@@1234sand1 what?

@1234sand1

2 жыл бұрын

@@BlueEyesWhitePrivilege put him on your wall, pretend that he is beautiful 😍. He will take your 💰 🤑... 😉

@BlueEyesWhitePrivilege

2 жыл бұрын

@@1234sand1 ...what?

Hangman's stuff here was just rambling for the most part so it was hard to know what to make of it.

Thanks algorytm

Comparing this shit to Bret and Shawn? Fucking hell Dave

@shikikkaneddy

2 жыл бұрын

I mean , Punk's run right now is notorious for doing homages to Bret

What? Punk is absolutely the babyface here it's not even up to debate. Hangman has been acting completely heelish.

@pooldead7712

2 жыл бұрын

Page has been acting heelish but punk has been teasing turning heel for a little while now but we will have to see what will happen

When you really think about it. Who are Hangmans last 2 Title defenses? Bryan Danielson, Adam Cole, and now CM Punk. 2 guys fresh out of WWE and 1 guy in Punk who could've been in AEW from the beginning if he wanted too. That's why I think Hangman is taking this stance of defending AEW from punk because he's been essentially defending his championship against invaders. And this is the biggest invader of them all because he essentially waited and took advantage of all the work people like Hangman did to build AEW And Punk is just being real about it. Even mirroring that cody rhodes TNT Championship ladder match promo where cody mentioned how the pipe bomb mightve been indirectly the reason why this entire revolution was started in the first place. Hangman is basically that cowboy defending his town from Marauders right now. And I'm loving it because he is the Ace of AEW

@keni95851

2 жыл бұрын

too bad he couldn't say that, cuz that was better than the first year acting class I saw in this

It's pretty obvious CM Punk is recreating Bret Hart's 1996 return with obviously some tweaks. But fully expect Punk to win the title similarly to how Bret beat Austin at WM13 and for him to turn heel.

Let’s be Honest … I don’t get the Hangman hype. Outside of AEW fanbase is he even looked highly upon as champion? MJF is talked about and more overall known…

So does Punk have a lot of heat in the locker room? Can they just come out and say it?

@keni95851

2 жыл бұрын

no, they're just pretending.

Does punk have any backstage heat? Because this made no sense, at all

@j.m.vofficial6113

2 жыл бұрын

I mean maybe with colt cabana 🤷‍♂️

@pooldead7712

2 жыл бұрын

Kingston, possibly colt, he is out spoken and isn't everyone's cup of tea, you will find nearly everywhere hes gone he's disgruntled people that's just him.

@keni95851

2 жыл бұрын

@@pooldead7712 he has heat with kingston? stemming from what? the shit they talked about on TV?

@alr1129

Жыл бұрын

The story continues

Punk basically playing a souless mercenary type is interest for a heelish character. Hangman shoulda said you just walked in here and beat down all the young AEW originals from Darby Allen, to even MJF the guys that were with me from day 1 of AEW.

This AEW Dynamite🧨 was INCREDIBLE! Wardlow is Mega Over, Punk & Hanger having an amazing Promo battle, United Empire! That 3-Way was insane, Hope Jamie is having a nice day, Joe going to the Owen finals. Incredible go home show, Can't wait for Double or Nothing🎰

@keni95851

2 жыл бұрын

"Amazing promo battle" haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahaha

@khesipresents1885

2 жыл бұрын

damn bot

@keni95851

2 жыл бұрын

@@khesipresents1885 people who just praise everything aew does without thought? i agree they're bots

@ricosuave7053

2 жыл бұрын

Doing the same for WWE makes you look even worse lol

@khesipresents1885

2 жыл бұрын

@@keni95851 wwe and aew is shit..not that these tribal fans of each brands wanna admit that

Hangman was phenomenal. I love Punk but Hangman’s words were strong. I know the crowd was mixed (in a good way, I think) and I think the PPV live audience is going to be mixed as well but more in Hangman’s favor.

@keni95851

2 жыл бұрын

if Hangmans promo is "phenomenal" what was a Rock promo? an Austin promo? Dusty promo?

@crooker23

2 жыл бұрын

@@keni95851 rock promos sucked, Austin was the best. This hangman promo was phenomenal

@keni95851

2 жыл бұрын

@@crooker23 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

If punk do turn at dON this would be a good foreshadowing promo by Page or else i dont see a reason why he was so mad.

@JUnior-ot1xu

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe he was so mad Bc this guy wants to take his championship? I mean seriously lol

Hangman is getting fuckin good on the mic man. The difference between his promos from 2019 to now are like night and day.

Page has done nothing to demonstrate he should be the long term champion, even amongst the younger talent.

@crooker23

2 жыл бұрын

He's the best active men's wrestler in AEW barring Brian Danielson, he's demonstrated why he's champ in the ring

This was, this was, this was, TO ME, this was, it was... - Dave Meltzer

When you look like a monster

I would have Hangman go over and save Punk winning the title for a later event.

LMAO these guys are such marks 😂😂🤣

@SirBarneyGumble

2 жыл бұрын

Wrestling fans using the term "mark" will always be the cringiest thing

@dariussparkes7080

2 жыл бұрын

@@SirBarneyGumble Little kids using the term "cringiest" will always scream mom's basement dweller.

@shikikkaneddy

2 жыл бұрын

@@dariussparkes7080 L

After last night i am pretty sure that Punk wins on saturday and turns heel. His whole AEW run was Brett Hart tribute i expect Punk to do something similar to Brett in WM 14 and what he already did in 2005. ROH. We are going to get another summer of Punk.

@j.m.vofficial6113

2 жыл бұрын

Wm 13?

@cicadrazadelija

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, my bad.

Why was this promo fawned over? Maybe I'm too old for this crap but this was nothing like Michal's and Hart. All the money in Page was in the chase for the belt ever since then it's been dull and it brings me no pleasure to say that.

Hangman winning and all the gen x punk fans are already crying

Punk is going to go from being the hero to being the devil Walter White style

I think we all knew long ago, and it has been proven now, the future long-term champion of AEW is not, nor should it be Hangman Page. It is MJF

Twinkle toes helps the rainbow cowboy win heel turn I’ll bet anything

@ryancorrigan4149

2 жыл бұрын

You can hate Omega, that's fine. But you know what's the worst? This group of fans who cannot form an opinion of their own and instead just regurgitate Jim Cornette's lines. They come across as groupies with a crush on him. Seriously, get off of Cornette's dick. He's not gonna let you suck it.

@shikikkaneddy

2 жыл бұрын

Lay off the burner , Cornette

Samoa Joe vs Punk

Heel turn for Punk. If there were a clear a heel and face, I would have predicted a double turn.

Misquoted both guys. Dave never mentioned which promo between Brett and Shawn he's comparing this to, likely because he's just chatting shit and hoping you'll just agree that a similar promo happened. This thing sucked. I don't know who to root for, hangman was the heel last week and kinda just tried to make punk out to be a heel. This angle has zero heat. There's nothing behind the scenes that would make this better than what we all saw. Trust me if there were juicy backstage stories Dave would have said as much. He is saying that the more you know the better it is but won't say what that more is. The idea being that you will just believe him and assume there is provocative stories between the 2 you aren't aware of and that is bullshit

@BJAdamBarry

2 жыл бұрын

You're definitely not in your feelings, nope not at all 😂

@alkiline9199

2 жыл бұрын

@@BJAdamBarry what the fuck does that even mean?

@alkiline9199

2 жыл бұрын

@@BJAdamBarry genuinely why am I the bad guy for calling out bad behavior simply because it's not the thing you preferred to hear?

@shikikkaneddy

2 жыл бұрын

I mean , that's OK and all But pretty much everyone is looking forward to this match Not everything has to be spelled out for you , even less when the story is just starting

Hangman calling CM Punk a p.o.s backstage is similar to what MJF was talking about with Punk, so the seeds are planted with Punk goes heel

@keni95851

2 жыл бұрын

too bad no one believes it

Here my thinking. Punk in this storyline is like Triple H in 2011 and Page is CM Punk. Page is trying to expose Punk for being a crap guy behind the scenes and Punk is trying to present himself as a hero on TV (like Triple H did in 2011 with his feud with Punk). For Punk it’s professional, he just wants the title, for Page it’s personal because he is very much a real guy and probably hates the fact there is this guy who is fake but people believe is genuine. Kind of inadvertently discredits his journey. Fantastic work. If I’m AEW, Page wins CLEAN as a whistle. Punk goes after Okada for Forbidden Door and the Page feuds continues after he loses there and then he is a heel who is desperate because now, he is starting to loose and maybe he can’t get to the top of the card and he thinks he is the baby face because he doesn’t want to let the fans down (covering up the fact he is a heel) and then he fully becomes heel after he beats Page in the rematch. If AEW ever want to do face MJF then a feud with heel Punk is the only way I would support it.

@ShinSuperSaiyajin

2 жыл бұрын

the analogy makes perfect sense! please no Kevin Nash this time though LOL

I honestly don’t get the hype for that promo. It wasn’t very good. Hangman definitely got loud and seemed to have emotion but he didn’t really say anything.

@mattb6616

2 жыл бұрын

He never does. He's incredibly bad at promos

@RavenGlenn

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. I dont understand people acting like this was any good. Hangman basically just ranted and raved and came across as crazy because everything he thinks is happening is only within his own head. He didn't actually say anything, tell a story, or show any real charisma.

@ralphjb

2 жыл бұрын

I like Hangman, but I have to agree. I didn't really understand what he was alluding to with Punk. Having Punk say that even he didn't understand what Hangman was saying didn't help. Lol

@duckmercy11

2 жыл бұрын

@@ralphjb I think it's a longterm storyline that will play out post DoN. Progressive revelation.

@khalidhatim7035

2 жыл бұрын

You just weren't listening

Haha they're on the payroll

Dont know why but this feels like hangman is gonna go after ex wwe guys like miro and mox

After this I'm fully expecting Punk to win with Punk turning heel.

you guys are marks. geez

Taking everything said in the promo at face value - Punk, or someone advocating for Punk, made the case that him winning the AEW title is what’s best for business. Page, or someone advocating for Page, recognizes how much his win meant for the homegrown AEW talent even if it’s lackluster business. Neither 100% fit this characterization of themselves or the other, nor are either of them lying. I do not like Page’s reign, it started well then immediately lost focus once his fued with Danielson ended. But hot darn am I invested in this particular match now.

This form of heat is too inside baseball for me in a negative way. Its basically telling everyone out there this isn't a sport. This is completely fake. When everyone is backstage we're all great friends who plan out our matches together in order to produce the promised finish. Think about that stuff instead of the match. To be completely fair WWE does this as well with the notion of a locker room leader. Never liked that concept being brought up on tv either. I suspect I'm in the minority here but I guess we'll see.

@johnnymittle

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think it breaks kayfabe. It just says that there's a level of expected behavior backstage, and Punk doesn't follow whatever 'code' there is back there. To the determent of all. Page knows that if Punk is champ this 'cancer' will grow behind the scenes. It's the same in real sports. Except no one would say anything until their career was over and they write a book or something. But reporters do get off the record 'feelings' that players are releved when a toxic player is traded etc.

@keni95851

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnnymittle how do you know he doesn't follow "the code"

I don’t understand why they keep making Punk look so bad on TV. This had so much ‘inside talk’ even I was lost!

@khesipresents1885

2 жыл бұрын

maybe cuz hell beat adam paga

I appreciate Dave's view on Punk vs Page in terms of wins and losses but the reality is Hangman has been a super weak champion for the company. He had a strong story to reach that point and in WWE fashion there was no compelling follow through after the Wrestlemania moment. I don't think should win. I think it does more good for the company to have Punk take the title ASAP. This doesn't need to become a multi year saga like Brock and Roman to keep both men strong. AEW can and should do that but I don't think this is the pairing to do that with. Let hangman drop down in the card and replace him with one of the other dozen potential future stars of the company and see if they can have a run that pays off better. The thing with 'too many' stars on the roster is you can cycle through them to find the best fit and you can always build up others later. I'm not saying hangman should be booked as a jobber. Give him the Cesaro role where he's a strong midcard threat or a tag guy again. But lets see if its time for Miro or Black or Jungle Boy or Skye or Darbie or Orange or, etc etc to take that place.

@shikikkaneddy

2 жыл бұрын

"Multi year saga" OOF , man No , Roman vs Brock has always been the E's actual lack of making a good story and always beating the dead horse

Whichever feud punk involves in looks top notch. He makes his opponent look worth something. Hangman was better at chasing the title. It's time to move on to punk for dream storylines.