"Punk was mad at me today" - that means he is mad at you forever by the way - just so Bryan knows this.

@Kratosx23

Жыл бұрын

The C in CM stands for Cornette.

@superdaygh

Жыл бұрын

Haha that's for sure he can't let a single thing go

@hagipilo5017

Жыл бұрын

CM "Never forget never forgive" PUNK. jezus christ what a giant baby. dude makes millions of dollars is world champ and calls out the EVP's right in front of TK?!

@axelerhate9705

Жыл бұрын

@@hagipilo5017 if everyone tells bs about him of course hes gonna get mad

@sebastiendorion4742

Жыл бұрын

That is so true 😅

"Now i'm getting on a ridiculous tangent." We're used to it, Dave.

@aerialpenn8849

Жыл бұрын

Ridiculous Tangent is Dave's middle name

@WilliamMightyRed

Жыл бұрын

@@aerialpenn8849 I always thought "YeahwellsolikeyouknowImeanyouknow" was his middle name...

@cletussmithiv2788

Жыл бұрын

Watch your mouth

@frontrunners4391

Жыл бұрын

@@WilliamMightyRed Lmmfao he drives me insane with that shit

@Robbins996

Жыл бұрын

The irony being he stayed on topic more than usual

People kept saying they wanted the real CM Punk. Well they got him now

@NL-fg6it

Жыл бұрын

and it’s brilliant. Someone to call out the clowns.

@th3seek3r60

Жыл бұрын

We just needed a year on the road to have him as bitter as he is

@conormcgregor8451

Жыл бұрын

@@NL-fg6it that’s what i’m saying this is the reason everyone loved punk but it seems wrestling has changed and a bunch of people are soft and get there feelings hurt over stuff that doesn’t involve them.

@welowee7610

Жыл бұрын

Well, they got really high PPV buys and great ratings. I said it’s good man

@jamesmiller5331

Жыл бұрын

@@conormcgregor8451 I have finally figured out the fandom. The insufferable aew fans that will jump all over you for even the slightest criticism. Turns out they're actually BTE fans first and foremost and now watch them actively root against their own company's drawing power because one of the talents crossed their little group of bisexual clowns. The people you would have found 10 years ago attending a brony convention have now moved to wrestling and this is what we got.

If you watch the Scrum, Jericho whispered something to Tony, what you could hear Jericho say is "Some shit went down."

@KairosObj

Жыл бұрын

Work perhaps?

@robertmarshall5997

Жыл бұрын

I went back and watched and didn't see anything like that

@steveperez7758

Жыл бұрын

Yes I saw him whispering in TK ear I just didn't know what he said. It's hard to tell what is a work and what is real with Aew.

@1Smooth1

Жыл бұрын

I listened and Tony asked Jericho “Hey are you going to be around?” and Jericho responded “yes” and Tony replied “I’ll call or text you later”. Probably to get together for dinner or drinks. Or a few lines of COKE. I’m guessing COKE! lol 😂

@letsssgooo4618

Жыл бұрын

Not hard at all lol

"Now I'm getting off on a ridiculous tangent"...like that has ever stopped you before Dave lmfao

@chriskay1449

Жыл бұрын

Well, at least he admitted it this time.

@donkeysaurusrex7881

Жыл бұрын

Dave’s rambling stories are part of the channel’s charm.

@killakurt6211

Жыл бұрын

Most self aware Dave has ever been

@CMBell1985

Жыл бұрын

And he was cogent and relevant. Not a tangent at all!

@jonathanmays8203

Жыл бұрын

I commented the same thing before I saw your comment 😂😂😂😂

Meltzer is the reason that KZread videos have a 1.5x speed feature.

@dailydoseofleftpill3458

Жыл бұрын

couldn't agree more

@Azav312

Жыл бұрын

Total sperg. I don't have the patience to listen at normal speed

@duckmercy11

Жыл бұрын

Lol, I just played this at 1.5, although that was to save data on my mobile plan.

@chrispoelive8376

Жыл бұрын

I just found that feature right now 😯

@jrob7176

Жыл бұрын

I play all my videos at 2x

"It was hard to tell who he was talking about". No, it wasn't.

@MoxyOh

Жыл бұрын

Like the scrum segment was obviously a work. So one of two things is true: These two are in on the storyline or they are such consumate ass-kissers that they're incapable of objectively covering anything.

@vortex_1336

Жыл бұрын

Right? Like obviously he was talking about the Bucks. Like who else would he be referring to? Cody is gone and Omega was out at the time. Bucks are the only other EVP's.

@exiaR2x78

Жыл бұрын

It was so obvious its about the bucks haha

@johnm140

Жыл бұрын

The Hardly Boyz

@migueldelarosa2121

Жыл бұрын

The Cucamonga kids.

A Wrestling journalist/insider with absolutely no bias just said “ He can’t be talking about the Young Bucks” lol

@ame871022

Жыл бұрын

Facts

@Yourmumbitch

Жыл бұрын

Punk told the truth he works with children gymnasts who don't know shit about wrestling JIM Cornette called all of this months ago, CM PUnk is right the bucks are jealous egotistical children trying to sabotage CM Punks run in the company

@cooljammer00

Жыл бұрын

But it was specifically in the context of calling out "guys who haven't been anywhere or done anything". He's saying he can't be talking about the Bucks because the Bucks of all people in the company have done maybe the most. There's no company without them.

@drchtct

Жыл бұрын

Well factually it can‘t be the Bucks

@michaelfarrow5817

Жыл бұрын

The Bucks built the company and the scene from which it came. Without them being the guys who helped people get paid on the Indies, there's no Elite. No Elite, no AEW. He's riding their coattails. He earns what he earns off the back of what they did. No All Out, no AEW, Phil goes grovelling back to WWE. And for what? Fuck it, fire hi..

"He cant be talking about the Young Bucks" I think you'll find he can.

@RyanDMoore

Жыл бұрын

The Young Bucks fucking suck, I don't know why these guys blow them so much.

@dogsbreakfast4952

Жыл бұрын

Well they’ve accomplished more then punk has so that wouldn’t make sense

@tundraboy6498

Жыл бұрын

@@dogsbreakfast4952 Generation Me never won anything

@rikcartman3874

Жыл бұрын

How?

@musicjnky1982

Жыл бұрын

@@dogsbreakfast4952 mark

All we need now is Jim Cornette to rock up as punks manager 😂

@thewindozer

Жыл бұрын

I can see that happening now that would be best for business Tony you need to hire that man

@muscleinktv5093

Жыл бұрын

@@thewindozer I doubt bucks and kenny would let it happen but it would be 🔥🔥🔥

@rentoptional1524

Жыл бұрын

Jim wouldn't do it for all the money on earth.

@allforgreatness9883

Жыл бұрын

Jim doesnt want to work In AEW he said this many times already.

@muscleinktv5093

Жыл бұрын

@@rentoptional1524 he’s worked for much worse, for much less in the past so wouldn’t be so sure about that

I don’t know what’s going on, but this is so entertaining. I’ve spent a good eight hours on AEW today

@baseballno3214

Жыл бұрын

Yea they’ve got me the most interested I’ve been in like a year so it’s definitely working

@aaronlauretani8921

Жыл бұрын

What's happening is that Tony Khan is no Vince McMahon - A.K.A. his wrestlers aren't afraid of being punished by him.

@phoenixmodellingphotography

Жыл бұрын

@@aaronlauretani8921 And us fans are reaping the benefits! 👌

@SYMShutYoMouth

Жыл бұрын

If this doesn’t end up being a work, and the Elite leave you guys will look goofy as fuck.

@aaronlauretani8921

Жыл бұрын

@@phoenixmodellingphotography For now...I don't think we'll be feeling that way if Punk refuses to work with certain guys or confuses fans by burying other babyfaces in promos even when it isn't part of a storyline that leads to any payoff. That just hurts the product eventually.

If this is anything close to real, Cody is the smartest man in wrestling.

@jaybee4288

Жыл бұрын

Cody foresaw this. There’s an Interview long before there was any sound of trouble saying that the elite guys would get jealous of the ex wwe guys and vice versa. He saw it months before.

@keithm11112

Жыл бұрын

Cody was the one holding it all together. He knew it was going to drop out at the bottom when he left. Punk is like gasoline on a fire

@Luigi12687

Жыл бұрын

Cody is a clown

@EliC09

Жыл бұрын

@@Luigi12687 he got out of AEW before shit hit the fan, so no. He’s not a clown (this coming from a guy that highly dislikes Cody)

@silxix2599

Жыл бұрын

Cody has his own Ego, he booked himself as First TNT Champion... The Bucks just stuck behind Hangman, but nobody knows Colt Cabana better than CM PunK. Colt Cabana had to be fired, cause he's a dirt sheet rumor maker...

None of the talent should be EVPs. It’s really that simple

@jesuszamora6949

Жыл бұрын

They shouldn't be running the game division either. Omega taking FTR out of the game (if it ever comes out) is inexcusable.

@juselara02

Жыл бұрын

Man I cannot agree more. Active wrestlers in power positions is the worst idea ever

@ethanbradley2089

Жыл бұрын

Thought it was stupid since the rally in Jacksonville.

@billywashere6965

Жыл бұрын

@@jesuszamora6949 Except he didn't? They're going to be part of the RoH DLC since they're RoH champions.

@0pyrophosphate0

Жыл бұрын

@@billywashere6965 But they've been with the company for over 2 years. How are they not already factored into the base roster?

‘He can’t be talking about the Young Bucks!’ 😂😂

@NL-fg6it

Жыл бұрын

I laughed so hard

@dogsbreakfast4952

Жыл бұрын

Why?

@zigga967

Жыл бұрын

@@dogsbreakfast4952 lol, Dave has a MAN CRUSH on those guys.

@mikeuc16

Жыл бұрын

Bryan and Dave are such a joke lol

@dx2327

Жыл бұрын

These two always set the narrative the young bucks want.

I wonder if the Bucks throw superkicks when they're fighting behind the scenes

@Christopher-dd1ph

Жыл бұрын

🤣😂🤣😂🤣

@MainEventDul

Жыл бұрын

I think they slap their thighs when they do it too 🤔🤔

@mprice6683

Жыл бұрын

The Young Bucks and Kenny Omega will have CM Punk fighting Haku in a street fight next week, biting encouraged.

@nwo2cool

Жыл бұрын

I heard Punk and Ace Steel went Double Dragon on the Bucks and Omega.

Tony literally checked his phone before Jericho got to the scrum

@CardShopReality

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, several other KZread posters missed that.

Dave:"Now I'm getting off on a tangent." Me:"We are used to that Dave." 😂😂😂😂

I'm not even sure wtf is a work or a shoot anymore. Goddamn if it ain't fascinating regardless

@drobinson-uo7ic

Жыл бұрын

Yep bottom line is it's got everybody talking.

@dngn4774

Жыл бұрын

There's no way Meltzer, Alvarez, Tony Khan, The Bucks, Omega, and Page could ever make a work this convincing. None of them have that level of restraint.

@nwo2cool

Жыл бұрын

If it's was real, TK would've fired Ace Steel and probably suspended Punk. I don't think TK have the guts to fired Punk. Steel should be breaking up the fight, not joining the fight.

Bro……Jim Cornette is gonna have a field day about this……I can’t wait for that 😂😂😂😂😂

@shuvrodev601

Жыл бұрын

Man he said same thing punk said 2 weeks ago

@SkySoFew

Жыл бұрын

Right? I can't wait for the out of touch 70 year old to yell about how "this ain't rasslin!!!!" He never does that so it'll be refreshing.

@stuartoreilly2019

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, when I saw Punk start shooting I just envisioned the smile on Corny's face 😂

@ashwinramesh583

Жыл бұрын

@@SkySoFew this ain’t wrestling mate….I’m not a wwe fan either….but punk disrespected his boss in front of the world….I actually feel sorry for Tony…. I hate the elite but you could be professional and settle whatever issues you have backstage in front of Tony….not do this shit and keep interrupting your CEO at a press and pretty much bury the whole company…..Vince or hunter would have just fired anyone who would pull such a stunt….and I doubt cena or Roman would do something like that

@SkySoFew

Жыл бұрын

@@ashwinramesh583 Very true statement

1 year on and it only gets better 🤣

Sounds to me like this is what AEW wanted Punk for. Wall to wall coverage in every wrestling publication. He has built about a year's worth of feuds in one press conference. Tony is on record saying he thinks Cornette has some valid points, and it's no surprise they seem to be leaning into that to make a story out of it. Punk heavily hinted almost everything Cornette has said. There is money in feuds that appear genuine. Punk has built hype almost on a level of the original WWE pipe bomb.

@MoxyOh

Жыл бұрын

I wasn't sure at first til two things: He called them like a bunch of nobody's playing with their friends in Reseda...something Cornette says verbatim all the time...and the way he was eating directly into the microphone the whole time. That was such a "heel" mannerism to throw into the promo...just...chewing directly into the microphone and talking with his mouth full the entire time? Great touch.

@axelerhate9705

Жыл бұрын

Could be. The fact Tony was oblivious to all this because he didnt had his phone is one of the lamest excuses ever

@badhousemedia6983

Жыл бұрын

Punk and Khan are equally pathetic for different reasons.

@mrchonk316

Жыл бұрын

I'm not sure this is the way to do it. i don't think it's a work and to me it's just going to piss people off in the end with one side leaving wether that be Punk or the Bucks/Omega

@gammasmash1924

Жыл бұрын

​@@badhousemedia6983 Well that's that then. 😂🤣😂

The scrum was fucking great. Meth'd out TK, pissed off Punk, fuck yeah.

@AntLox

Жыл бұрын

Kahn has the last cooked batch of that Walter White for sure.

@Suspect333

Жыл бұрын

not been around many people who get high im assuming... TK is just a passionate af dude.

@gregthegroove

Жыл бұрын

LOOOOOL Fucking brilliant. I’ve been saying he’s been drugged out of his mind for months now. I’ve also said he’s so coked out, I believe some girls or girls have probably robbed ones hundreds of thousands of dollars by now.

@murdockfiles9406

Жыл бұрын

Meth is a sleepy drug, cocaine is the adrenaline rush

@Suspect333

Жыл бұрын

@@murdockfiles9406 lol meth ain't no sleepy drug fam

Dave can't be this delusional. He knows exactly who he was talking about.

@jthom0027

Жыл бұрын

Dave carries water for the Bucks so he will continue to work as their PR firm until they leave

@BainesMkII

Жыл бұрын

Dave has long ignored things he doesn't want to acknowledge, unless you pin him down and force it. Just listen to, well, most of the Bryan and Dave clips available on KZread...

@jesuszamora6949

Жыл бұрын

Dave is cheerleading the Bucks and Omega. Not even AEW - those guys. If Tony came to his senses and booted those twits, Dave would ride him twice as hard as Jim.

@DoozieDoodle

Жыл бұрын

@@jesuszamora6949 Dude AEW is not firing the Bucks and especially not Kenny, Kenny has nothing to do with this but also these are top talents of the company you're talking about.

@jesuszamora6949

Жыл бұрын

@@DoozieDoodle And that is the demise of AEW. But the point stands - Dave's a fan of those three, not AEW.

WCW Speedrun by Tony Khan (World Record, Glitchless)

@CustosCustodum

Жыл бұрын

Glitchless - how come the lights keeping going out all the time then?

@donkeysaurusrex7881

Жыл бұрын

@@CustosCustodum Get back to us when Tony Khan stares at a wall for 13 seconds and sis immediately teleported to bankruptcy court.

@charlottemarsh2202

Жыл бұрын

...

@geneparmesan8108

Жыл бұрын

I fucking love this. @SummoningSalt

You have one side that plays nice to everybody’s face and just does passive aggressive stuff when no one is looking, and another that is constantly looking for a fight over real and imagined slights everywhere he goes. This was inevitable. I just find it amusing that anyone can find one side to be blameless in this whole thing.

@ItsWhizi

Жыл бұрын

Oh thank god I’m not alone. Thank you for the reasonable take that used an ounce of forethought.

@minorking1121

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I mean even if none of the The Elite actually said a word to anyone about it you know Punk would still have had this bubbling anger inside him just because he knows that they are friends with Colt and would know they don't like him. He's so ready to be pissed at people. Anyone he saw laugh at one of Colt's jokes backstage he'd make his enemy.

@stoozdee

Жыл бұрын

@@mastermoose8390 except for the part when they say no side is blameless.

@michaelfarrow5817

Жыл бұрын

This was inevitable because CM Punk has always been a complete cunt. Genuinely, it goes back years. It might be a personality disorder but he's only nice when he has to be or when you're paying for his autograph. This can't be fixed by making everybody sit down. A decision has to be made and the obvious one is to get the strap off Punk and get him off TV by 2023.

@JustinTheGreat

Жыл бұрын

@Crazy Eights perfect theme for his lack of an AEW run.

EVPs that couldn’t manage a Target is what he said, and yes it was in reference to the Bucks.

@Christopher-dd1ph

Жыл бұрын

i love the bucks, but when they were running their own storylines it was literal trash. so yea that statement is literally true.

@heltongomez8865

Жыл бұрын

@@Christopher-dd1ph When was that? what storylines were trash? I'm just curious that's all

@ziamarie

Жыл бұрын

Did the bucks work at Target at some point? I only ask because i remember Brit Baker always bringing up when Tony Schiavone used to work at Starbucks lol

I can never clown my wife for watching her reality drama, because this is some TEA!

@mprice6683

Жыл бұрын

The Real Housewives of CM PUNK's AEW.

I mean... Punk DID say "If you have a problem with me come to me"... perhaps the Bucks just said "Okay, we will"?

@bileductable

Жыл бұрын

Yah and then they slapped their thighs loudly in disapproval

@phoenixmodellingphotography

Жыл бұрын

@@bileductable Shades of Scott Hall's working kicks in shoot fights lmao

@badaboom2321

Жыл бұрын

My 9 year old cousin can beat the shit out of both bucks with one hand

@Matt-cr4vv

Жыл бұрын

If they did walk up to him after it I would have a lot more respect for them.

@srirams2227

Жыл бұрын

@@bileductable You're talking about AEW, they can slap their thighs all they want and you pay money to watch them so they are doing a pretty good job, shoot or not.

They really need a PPV called "Civil War"

@billywashere6965

Жыл бұрын

Punk and his gang versus the Elite?

Decent report but Dave completely whiffed on the "guys don't want to listen to me" bit. He (Punk) referred specifically to Hangman doing an outside interview where he said he "doesn't listen to advice". He also referred to the "backstage wisdom", mentioning Dean Malenko and Jerry Lynn and said he like (sarcastically) to see Hangman tell Terry Funk "I don't need to listen to you."

@eiephants

Жыл бұрын

This. ^

@RedDawnRocker

Жыл бұрын

It's not just Page, if you listen to past interviews you hear the same idiocy from Omega (especially concerning Harley Race). I can't speak 100% on the Bucks but back during their "Generation Me" days in TNA I kind of recall seeing ioutside nterviews with them saying the same. If their attitude is the same these days it's easy to see someone who does, in fact, have a sense of tradition like Punk or FTR have problems with them.

@jesuszamora6949

Жыл бұрын

Expecting Dave not to twist things to make Omega and the bucks look good is like expecting Fox News not to be Republican propaganda. The possibility is non-existent.

@joshkiepper7102

Жыл бұрын

U read way to much into relax kid

@drobinson-uo7ic

Жыл бұрын

Punk wasn't just burying guys, he was taking up for the veterans in the back and how they should be listened to. He was burying some guys while standing up for others.

“You don’t try to middle your top baby face”. These stupid guys think we are in Reseda”. Dave Meltzer: Punk can’t possibly be talking about the Young Bucks.

Dave, you always go on tangents 🤣 And once Punk hates you, it lasts forever. Just so you know Alvarez.

I'll tell you who suffered most from Phil's tirade, and it's MJF. His return was eclipsed by what occurred after the event.

@KC-vx5wo

Жыл бұрын

payback for mjf overshadowing wardlow's big moment months ago. mjf/punk are tru pro wrestlers.

@brysoncherry9884

Жыл бұрын

@@KC-vx5wo Just like punks win was eclipsed? Pick and choose to suit yourself.

@wrestlingp

Жыл бұрын

MJF is that hard working guy with a top ethic who will never get a look in against those shithouses at the top. It's the "Elite's" company, their name on the brand and they'll damn well suffocate it if they please.

Tony Khan should ask Eric Bischoff what happens when you let talent do whatever they want and act however they want. Look at what happened to WCW. If Tony Khan doesn't take control, things are not going to end well for AEW.

@turtlehead2

Жыл бұрын

So he can manage an NFL locker room but not a fake fighting one? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@730F-Sport

Жыл бұрын

He can ask dixie carter also

@jeepernj99

Жыл бұрын

When has Tony managed an NFL locker room? 💁‍♂️

@baileybadass2235

Жыл бұрын

@@turtlehead2 he doesn’t manage the jaguars locker room though

@abdulmueed5819

Жыл бұрын

tony is a little child playing GM mode on a knockoff version of a WWE 2k game. Just watch him during punk's interview. He just sat there and let punk air the proverbial dirty laundry in front of the whole world. And you could tell that punk knew full well that whatever he chose to say, tony would not step in and shut him up or at least redirect the questions/conversation. This is why he should just do what he does with his American Football and REAL football teams and let people who know what the hell they're doing and can actually command the respect of the locker room handle things. Grow up Tony! Stop playing at being a boss and just hire a damn booker and talent relations guy.

Remember when Brandon Cutler got pissy at JR on the twitters over a comment JR made about everyone so obviously standing in the same spot for a long time waiting to catch a tope suicida? That was someone in the Elite's orbit mad at a man giving advise for improving optics on TV. Cutler took aim at a man who signed some of pro wrestling's biggest stars. Right or wrong, we currently have a version of the Klique in AEW and most of them are from the west coast. It is what it is. People can be pissed at Punk for airing it out but he isn't the first nor will be the last in the business to air some shit out.

@kirkpatrikballares3291

Жыл бұрын

yeah, I think this is whats happening, theres an obvious divide in the company and AEW should consider changing up the power structure or at least let the talent talk and sort themselves out with supervision of course.

@kirkpatrikballares3291

Жыл бұрын

@@renderinghues4616 true, its always peppered in multi-men matches and its mostly unconvincing in most matches.

@Basillikos

Жыл бұрын

This doesn't make sense because Cutler was immediately pressured to delete that tweet and he was removed from that match as punishment. Right afterwards is also when they changed his gimmick from D&D master to obnoxious Elite goon.

@smac919

Жыл бұрын

You know the Bucks & Kenny recently have been some of the only guys to do that spot correctly. The Bucks against (maybe in the triple threat?) we’re on the outside, Nick runs over and moves Matt out of the way to a different area, then the other team launches a tope and hits them. Kenny recently just moved against Ospreay, looked dead at the camera, and said “you think I was just going to stand there?!”

@JakeK3339

Жыл бұрын

@@renderinghues4616 Agreed. & I'm right there with you - Guys like Ospreay and Fenix are a delight to watch. But yeah, the standing spots are ridiculous, and sometimes like say on AEW PPVs we might see them not just 3-4 times a night, but 3-4x a MATCH. Especially during certain Young Bucks matches or a match with 2-3 highflyers... Those long-spots need to go, they just look so setup & fake that it makes me cringe.

Wanna know a surefire way of proving you’re either young and/or didn’t actually watch WCW back in the day? - Keep saying, “This is just like 1999-2000 era WCW.” No, it isn’t.

@bls8959

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like it is backstage maybe worse

@shaytanszenith887

Жыл бұрын

BLS, You have no idea what you are talking about.

@Martijn_Steinpatz

Жыл бұрын

Indeed, just read Death of WCW and come back to us

@davisbowe8668

Жыл бұрын

For real. Literally everyone on r/SquaredCirlce last night were like "tHiS iS jUSt LiKe 2000s wCw". Like, no it wasn't, stfu.

@PhinneusPrune

Жыл бұрын

In 1999 - 2000 era WCW. There was politicking in the back. Nash was made Booker. He put his guys over. Then Vince Russo came in and blurred the lines. He had his younger talent he wanted over. So he pushed guys like Billy Kidman, Jeff Jarrett, Vampiro etc ... but the guys in the back were happy to see Hogan, Sting, Hall and Nash on the card even though they never got opportunities to be at the top of the card. Why? Even the buried talent knew and respected the fact the Hogan's and the Nash's and the Stings drew money. And when these PPVs sell out. It meant more money in their pockets. It seems the AEW talent don't respect those who came before that are there to draw the crowds and viewers that in the end make them money. They think they are the draw when in reality ... they are not. Proof being the ratings drops while Punk was out nursing his foot.

It is unbelievable how much Dave and Bryan defend these EVPs

@stevenweathers2989

Жыл бұрын

Is it really tho? I’ve followed the coverage, as I’m sure most have, and to see their reflex was to defend the elite was really on brand isn’t it?

Remember when everyone was talking about Seth and Riddle’s shoot promo? Not anymore.

@MrTeamGuy

Жыл бұрын

Not really, when was that?

Some1 DID leak that CM Punk got Colt Cabana reassigned to ROH and Tony Khan had to say that wasn't the case. So who leaked that lie? The wrestling media picked it up and ran with it. Cornette has been cooking The Elite for years but yall are mad at Punk? There's two sides to every story. Hobbs got the win a lot of people wanted at All Out. Hobbs was one of the first people Punk worked with and he praised Punk for his assistance and advice backstage. Both sides have there supporters, but I see many interviews with talent praising TK and other vets backstage and it's never The Elite! One things for sure, controversy creates cash and people will tune in like they did they past two weeks.

@jedsithor

Жыл бұрын

@The Baddestman Punk says it's not the case and Khan says it's not the case. Whether or not you believe them is up to you but let's take Punk out of the equation for a moment. Was Cabana actually doing anything of note in AEW? No. He wasn't in line for any kind of big push even before Punk got there. So purely from the point of view of managing rosters it makes absolute sense to move him to ROH.

@JakeK3339

Жыл бұрын

To your point about talent praising TK and other vets - I notice the same thing - I do believe there's a side of the AEW locker room that sees "The Elite" guys merely as jackoffs who only help themselves and their friends & then I think there's another side of the AEW locker room that is pissed off or jealous that ex-WWE guys are getting both more TV time or more pay. The rest of the locker room is indifferent and just does their job. But I see that as two major sides colliding moving forward.

@herringstheseries

Жыл бұрын

If you want to see how much love The Elite get, all you gotta do is watch current episodes of BTE and see how many AEW wrestlers outside a select few, no longer appear on that show.

@XainEisenhart

Жыл бұрын

Bryan and Dave are friends with the Bucks, so of course they're gonna pin everything 100% on the Punk just like the Bucks, I mean their super secret sources in AEW, tell them.

@hectic105

Жыл бұрын

The first stories to do with Cabana also said that it was the Young Bucks who supposedly “saved” Cabanas career…

Being a "nice" owner in this business doesn't work. Otherwise people will take advantage of your kindness. Now we know why Vince was hated so much. He was hated, but he also commanded respect.

@InternetSlumlord

Жыл бұрын

Vince was the nicest boss. What other boss would pay off cops to keep you out of prison for murder and turn a blind eye to molesting ring boys?

@mervstash3692

Жыл бұрын

100% just like any good boss would do. You're there to make money, not friends.

@doddsino

Жыл бұрын

You can be a nice boss, but you can also be a fair boss. Typically people hate their boss when their boss holds them accountable to their work. Yes, there are bad bosses, who are jerks for petty reasons, but in most cases those people don't last in those positions long.

@doddsino

Жыл бұрын

@@mervstash3692 Agreed 100% Just like what I would tell my employees; It's good for the customer. It's good for the company. It's good for you.

@The_OneManCrowd

Жыл бұрын

@@mervstash3692 Well said.

it was really clear who CM Punk was really mad at... this is the most dishonest response ever to what actually happened... he looked both of you right in the eyes and you said nothing... you both had a moment that every reporter or journalist dreams of and you both did nothing.

@JM-fr5ge

Жыл бұрын

They’re scared of not being invited back by Khan

@jonjohnson1978.

Жыл бұрын

It's because they've no journalistic integrity...any other sport field the journalist would press for more

@vladdebrancovan7011

Жыл бұрын

@@jonjohnson1978. that what I mean by an opportunity that every reporter or journalist wait for… any real one would press CM Punk with more question and to elaborate or clarify what he meant… they said more after the fact and preferred hearsay over actually doing their jobs … anyone having any sympathy for them obviously has no envy to actually look at the readily available footage… they are without a doubt dirtsheets.

@vladdebrancovan7011

Жыл бұрын

@@DivertingTales speaking under your breath is not standing your ground … if it was so false he would have yelled it out instead of being as vocal As a church mouse.

There's reports that Brian and Dave pissed themselves when Punk spoke to them.

@ResistingDeath

Жыл бұрын

I can vouch for these reports. Multiple sources can confirm.

@Jack91790

Жыл бұрын

They always smell like that.

@aerialpenn8849

Жыл бұрын

@@Jack91790 I agree. The smell comes with old age.

Punk had all the dirt sheets in attendance at the scrum shook. Well deserved, hope this happens more often. Pull a wedgie on all of them one by one for stirring bs.

@shaytanszenith887

Жыл бұрын

Wrestling journalism is a plague, My friend. I was gonna stop watching wrestling so many times because of the dirt sheets moving the fans like puppets.

@donnymoney4222

Жыл бұрын

@@shaytanszenith887 its weird i like reading them but i absolutely hate HATE HATE their effect on booking... they fucked over rybacks push with their crap

@TheJSexton24

Жыл бұрын

It’s like they have their own little world and live in a fake reality like if the Observer said it’s truth these puppets repeat these opinions as they’re facts and it’s mind numbing like these nerds bury legends like Nash and Sid Vicious but praise Omega and “Work Rate Wrestlers”

@sudduthm2

Жыл бұрын

Kinda funny to see people decrying wrestling "dirt sheets" as the scourge of the industry on....a wrestling dirt sheet KZread channel. Punk is pretty clearly stirring shit in the locker room that some people do not like, and we've all been hanging on every new detail for the last half a day. So maybe the the dirt sheets aren't as bad as you think they are

@TheJSexton24

Жыл бұрын

@@sudduthm2 oh stop it yet it’s ok for the observer fans to shit on WWE all day everyday but they continue to watch and click on videos about WWE and spew constant negativity about a company they hate so much they can’t stop watching

As a fan of everyone involved in this mess, I find it all highly entertaining. It's like I'm back in my early twenties working back-of-house at Red Robin.

@floorboss

Жыл бұрын

Ya mean the Kitchen? "Back-of-house" ..

@wuztron

Жыл бұрын

@@floorboss The kitchen is included in BOH for sure. But there's a lot more that goes on in a restaurant than just cooking food.

@brysoncherry9884

Жыл бұрын

@@floorboss Says the guy with the name floor boss. Irony much?

@floorboss

Жыл бұрын

@@brysoncherry9884 Somebody really uncreative sounds jealous. Hmmm.

@floorboss

Жыл бұрын

@@wuztron I aint talking about food. Or where it's cooked. "The Kitchen" refers to in-house workers only area.

Tony did have his phone on him. He texted Jericho prior to him coming out.

When wrestling gets real - the best times.

Listen to the spin in this conversation. It’s fascinating to hear these two ack like they weren’t shit stirring. When the “journalists“ become part of the story, you ain’t doing the job right.

@steviemacc2745

Жыл бұрын

Oh the SPIN IS IN FULL EFFECT!!!💯🤣

@saief3213

Жыл бұрын

nah, punk is an egotistical prick. If you aren't on his side he'll be pissed at you.

@natew1639

Жыл бұрын

All Friends Wrestling wasn't a bad thing, he said.

@jamesmiller5331

Жыл бұрын

These two are the biggest jokes and "wrestling journalism" and that's saying a *lot* LOL My absolute favorite part of the scrum was Punk calling out Alvarez "you mad at me?" I would say that I wished I could have seen Alvarez face at that moment but I already know what it was, sitting back with that smug smile on his face trying to pretend he's a journalist when he's nothing but a cheerleader, a rumor mongerer, and the mouthpiece for the worst elements of aew as a company.

@saief3213

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesmiller5331 Alvarez would kill punk in a shoot fight lol considering his jiu jitsu background, but so would half the AEW locker room in all fairness

You guys are tight roping between being mark journalists and biased instigators

@m8datmoney837

Жыл бұрын

Because they work for AEW

@drobinson-uo7ic

Жыл бұрын

@@m8datmoney837 yeah, they have interviewed Tony Khan several times it's clear they are biased shills for AEW.

@notgonnapay

Жыл бұрын

@@m8datmoney837 you mean they work for the Young Bucks.

@IzinTheBzin

Жыл бұрын

What did they say wrong, idiot

@m8datmoney837

Жыл бұрын

@@notgonnapay lol same shit different name

He was talking about Hangman who went on record and said he didn't need to listen to older wrestlers advice.

@smac919

Жыл бұрын

Tbh he doesn’t need to. I’m sure he still would depending on who says it.

@herringstheseries

Жыл бұрын

@@smac919 It was Jim Ross, Billy Gunn and Arn.

@chernobylhobo7793

Жыл бұрын

What these older guys don't understand is that maybe all their advice isn't actually worth listening to. Wrestling is a constantly evolving artform. Sure there are plenty of things to learn from previous generations of artists, but you also have to be willing to throw some of that away and embrace what you're ready to offer. Sometimes these older guys give out of touch advice and the younger dudes don't take it. Just look at how JR tried to convince TK that Orange Cassidy wasn't going to work. Then he went on to become one of their most over wrestlers and biggest merch movers. Being experienced doesn't mean you always know what's best.

@bryanthornton5533

Жыл бұрын

It’s a narrow minded point of view to disregard the advice of the people who toured 345 days a year multiple times a week by a rental car getting paid shit- these guys did that so the next generation had an easier time. These guys are irreplaceable and have forgotten more about wrestling than these EVP cunts have ever known.

@3DBrawlChannel

Жыл бұрын

@@chernobylhobo7793 I stopped reading the moment I saw the word "artform." Some Kenny Omega ballet school stuff right there

Punk also said that MJF is very talented during the scrum. He was clearly working when he called MJF a pr*ck

@nox7282

Жыл бұрын

He can be both. The terms aren’t mutually exclusive.

@Nostalgia9478

Жыл бұрын

@@nox7282 Punk wouldnt be putting over MJFs talent if he legit thinks MJF is a pr*ck..When Punk is upset with someone, those two terms ARE mutually exclusive...Notice how he didnt put over Adam Pages or the Young Bucks talent?

@markrobinson9394

Жыл бұрын

@@nox7282 Regardless, Punk wouldn’t be working with MJF in a 5-month program if he didn’t enjoy working with him.

@chriskay1449

Жыл бұрын

LOL another delusional mark trying to claim it is a work.

So he was mad bc y’all was reporting that he got Cobana fired or reassigned elsewhere. So now y’all come and report that he may try to get the Young Bucks fired 😂😅 instigation at its finest

@jthom0027

Жыл бұрын

All while the Bucks and Omega are doing their best to sully Punk's name and possibly get him fired. These stories and the way they are reported on are examples of why our media is fucking horrible. It was so obvious that the "elite" were the ones leaking the stories about Punk wanting to leave a few weeks ago yet I don't see them getting criticized like Punk is. The 'elite' are bigger locker room cancers than Punk could ever be.

Someone should probably remind Dave that the ‘All Friends Wrestling’ tag is a pejorative. The tag was due to the EVP’s hiring their friends rather than the best people for the promotion when it started out.

@redtube8667

Жыл бұрын

It's genuinely funny when people pull shit out of their ass to bash successful people

@billywashere6965

Жыл бұрын

Sure, at least there wasn't armageddon in the locker room, though.

This is very simple. The EVP’s and Hangman were the focus of AEW and now they are not. The WWE signings (not just Punk) have stolen their thunder and they are upset.

@kyril98741

Жыл бұрын

The problem is Punk throwing name without providing a proof just like the rumor of him making Colt Cabana lose his job. He was the ones that start talking about it publicly and now he doing the same to the evp. The way I see it, punk when heel and targeted the evp and AEW hardcore fan that has good memories about PWG. I feel like he was piss at Omega promo the first night that said aew will continue to provide match of every variety and said aew is not for tribute match.

@Thurmanatr16

Жыл бұрын

Yep, finally someone nailed the exact issue. Tony created a problem with his expensive new toys versus his cheaper old ones.

@8thaccount535

Жыл бұрын

FTR has totally outperformed the Bucks.

@guslima1130

Жыл бұрын

How they are upset?? Why?? Punk is literally swinging jabs in the air like the drunk uncle at christmas trying to ruin everyone's party by his own. All this situation started out of a microscopical issue that he turned into complete chaos by himself. If this is not a work, he's just a complete manchild with his head tucked up his ass.

@aspectra

Жыл бұрын

The same thing happened in WCW, where they held back young talent for too long. The Bucks and Omega also aren't much younger than Hogan/Hall/Nash at the point their joined WCW. By the time they started pushing younger talent like Benoit and Booker T to the main card, it was already too late. It's not late for AEW, but this is definitely a teaching moment. The Bucks have been reluctant to let FTR go over, even though they are having their best year on record. There are also plenty of younger up and comers like MJF who look like promising main eventers. AEW has the recipe for success, they just need to not be their own worst enemies.

You had it comin Bryan 😂

So apparently CM Punk is being the New Hulk Hogan

@8thaccount535

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, he's popular and draws money.

Tony Khan is getting walked on walked over and made to look like a jabroni

@goodolbrad3

Жыл бұрын

He legit sat there and did nothing while Punk buried the whole company.

@dngn4774

Жыл бұрын

@@goodolbrad3 No, he made it very clear he had specific issues with one kliq in particular. Not the whole company.

i died when he said he went over there just to say “hi” 💀⚰️

@Shisui5752

Жыл бұрын

Complete bullshit! 😂

It started with Cody. It's all starting to really become apparent now.

@aaronlauretani8921

Жыл бұрын

Some people thought Cody was a fool to leave. Now, he's probably going to become a world champ over there while AEW's stars eat each other.

@rameenakb

Жыл бұрын

I really wonder what happened between Cody and the Elite even more now.

@gregthegroove

Жыл бұрын

Bro…I wish I could find what I wrote when Cody left. I said what if Cody knows backstage stuff we don’t know that will come out eventually? Can you believe this?

@coke8045

Жыл бұрын

@@rameenakb It's an interesting dynamic. Cody is far too professional to cause conflict so the whole situation was radio silence. Punk isn't afraid of conflict however, and it's all combusting in a very major way. I like the Elite as wrestlers, but it appears to me them as powerful people in the company politically is a recipe for disaster.

@ResistingDeath

Жыл бұрын

@@gregthegroove Thank you Captain Obvious.

Tony Khan really needs to crack down on that roster. Like he just let's them walk all over him.

@forgottenmma3694

Жыл бұрын

Swerve and Punk.

@Christopher-dd1ph

Жыл бұрын

da fuck is he gonna do lmfao. he's a fucking MARK. he LITERALLY does not possess the balls to do something. all he could do is pay them more money if they promise to play nice. thats his only hope.

This CM Punk, the Elite issue is getting heated big time 👏👏👏🔥

The comment that bothered me personally the most is how some young talent are not sitting down and listening to some of the best minds wrestling has to offer. If you don’t wanna learn and you aren’t getting better, they should be let go.

@TerrelLism

Жыл бұрын

I know somewhere Hangman said he's the type to like to fail so he can truly learn from mistakes and get better. Bryan and Regal were hosting in ring lessons before he got hurt. Jade and Velvet took park and Jade saw some improvement. I think what Hangman said was a little blown up. But Regal and Bryan made it a point to say there ring practices are open to whoever wants to be there at 11am at the arena. No phones. old school. SOME show up.

@saief3213

Жыл бұрын

Didn’t he say it was just hangman not talking advice?

@strider4

Жыл бұрын

It was that dumbass Hagman. Pretty sure the part about MJF was a work but I can't be certain anymore

@NOTORIOUSGUN1

Жыл бұрын

@@TerrelLism here’s the issue with that. You only take in so much of your mistakes other mistakes will go unchecked. You need those great minds. You need the advice they’ll give you so you can grow and become a better version of yourself. That’s what Adam fails to understand.

@pamelqtaylor8335

Жыл бұрын

This is why I scratched my head at people like William regal leaving WwE ( to go to aew) the man is a walking encyclopedia of knowledge on what to do/ not to do (along with mark Henry, Paul wright, sting,Chris jericho all of who worked at wcw) and in this current situation would be willing to circle the wagon around tony and offer good advice which is needed right now

This isn't Punk's fault, he only reacted, Hangman started when he cut that unnecessary promo on put. If the EVP's did or didn't something about it I don't know.

@deedeethedog05

Жыл бұрын

I rewatched that hangman promo recently and dude, you have to want that to be referencing Cabana to get that out of it. It's a serious reach

@Skipee

Жыл бұрын

punk is a goddamn child and should solve this stuff behind closed doors.

@ripum853

Жыл бұрын

​@@deedeethedog05 exactly, it's intentionally vague, and wasn't going to cost any money unless Punk would've let it, which would've been on him and nit Page.

@marcot9289

Жыл бұрын

@@deedeethedog05 Cabana wasn't appearing on TV, Dark Order wasn't getting TV time, Angels contract wasn't renewed. All that happend people blamed Punk for that and Hang cut that promo. Us fans, didn't knew he was referring to Colt, but the backstage knew and people started to talk about

@deedeethedog05

Жыл бұрын

@@marcot9289 like I said, that's a serious reach. You're reaching and punk is reaching.

The drama backstage entertaining people more than the product is an awful sign. TK looks weak right now, questionable leadership is not exactly going to get advertisers excited.

@youngbreezy5859

Жыл бұрын

"The Backstage Drama" is being use to capture everyone's attention. And it's clearly working 🤣

@macgruberyahfrigginturds7044

Жыл бұрын

@@youngbreezy5859 this is the dumbest logic from any mark ever.......

@williamfurdyn5334

Жыл бұрын

@@youngbreezy5859 yeah but if the drama is real it could hurt AEW more as a whole

@allforgreatness9883

Жыл бұрын

@@youngbreezy5859 yeah there is no payoff for this stupid shit tony looks soft and punk is a cancer everywhere he has been.

TK has to remind people he's the boss and stop letting his employees walk all over him.

@OllieByGolly

Жыл бұрын

That's exactly what Punk was trying to get him to do. If you payed attention to what he said, Punk wants Tony and AEW to succeed. The EVPs want their comedy acrobat buddies to succeed (putting them over, of course).

@rriggs6547

Жыл бұрын

@@OllieByGolly My take is Tony should fire Punk for his unprofessional attitude and causing a toxic work environment. He may be a huge draw, but if the place goes to crap because of him it isn't worth it.

@jasonh.2439

Жыл бұрын

@@OllieByGolly It's not Punk's job to teach TK how to run a company. TK is a grown ass man and the guy that writes the checks, he should be checking Punk for airing all this dirty laundry and making sure this doesn't continue.

@jonjohnson1978.

Жыл бұрын

@@jasonh.2439 he shoud of checked hangman and made it clear he was out of line, page had his say now punk has, irony being punk was mad at them for going to the dirtsheets n they go right back after the bucks punk confrontation post presser 🤣

@chriskay1449

Жыл бұрын

@@jasonh.2439 But Tony doesn't care. Tony may look like a grown ass man, but he is still a child because he has never had to do anything for himself as daddy did everything for him. He is a mark that wants to be buddies with the talent then find cameras to tell the world how great he is. He has no clue how to run a business or act like an adult.

I think Punk is more old school which is why there is so much friction with him and certain people at AEW backstage. I'm currently training as a wrestler, and while I haven't seen any backstage altercations, I have met wrestlers who have different mentalities of how wrestling works. For example, Acid Jaz was trained at Windy City Wrestling, same place CM Punk was trained. He is WAY more stiff in the ring than any other wrestler I've met in the ring so far. Some people like getting chopped like me, others will threaten to punch you in the face if you even ATTEMPT a chop.

@Christopher-dd1ph

Жыл бұрын

its almost like DIFFERENT PEOPLE DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY. thats not a wrestling thing or an "old school" thing bud.

This kind of really makes me kind of in awe at how Vince was able to build the WWE to what it has become because Tony Khan is now finding out how hard it is to build a business and deal with all these egos and philosophies

@shivajones108

Жыл бұрын

He's dealt with NFL football players. Same difference

@johnm140

Жыл бұрын

Tony is also a weak spaced out dork so it's not surprising. You can't run a business trying to be friends with all the wrestlers.

@ResistingDeath

Жыл бұрын

@@shivajones108 You don't know to what extend and to what success he has dealt with that.

@rriggs6547

Жыл бұрын

Interesting how there were some issues over booking and place on the card but nothing in the locker room until Punk showed up. Tony handled lots of egos just fine in soccer, football, and wrestling. Punk just happens to be a toxic jerk. The sooner he is cut the sooner the company can heal and then grow again.

@Kingofthekop1

Жыл бұрын

@@rriggs6547 The coaches handle the players in football not the son of the owner.

"There was a melee." Oh so everybody made up and played Smash Bros together. That's great!

@Jackaljkljkl

Жыл бұрын

Punk was Fox and the Bucks played Pichu

Why does no one mention that Punk said he’d never job for Hangman?

@billywashere6965

Жыл бұрын

Shades od HBK and Bret Hart. Funny because Hangman never said that publicly about working with anyone.

I really dug Jaime Hayter tonight and was happy to see the crowd give her the respect she deserves. The tag titles match was really great too. It's a shame nobodies talking about that and instead the company wants to highlight Punk and his never-ending BS over "that young talent".

@RollerCodsterWFEW

Жыл бұрын

Dude! Best comment here! Simple, and correct. I knew once punk came in he was gonna take all the spots that the guys who have been working their asses off deserve. I just hope MJF finally takes the title away from him for good. Old man needs to let the real talent shine. He should have never beaten hangman. It should have been MJF.

@colinkillian9265

Жыл бұрын

Nobody cares about the women wrestlers.. They're just used to keep up with the diversity demands..

@herringstheseries

Жыл бұрын

Punk was asked questions. He answered.

@ItsWhizi

Жыл бұрын

@@colinkillian9265 only in aew. Pretending The Man character wasn’t the most popular thing in wwe for a long while is just disingenuous

Whether it's a work or not, people should not forget how pale TK is when this whole thing happened. His face is usually fairly animated, but it did something more this time.

@bb-gc2tx

Жыл бұрын

wtf are you talking about? you take notes on tk facial expressions ? lol you smarks are weird

3 things may happen 1.) Situation gets fixed 2) CM Punk walks out 3.) Omega and Bucks walk out

@liquidfox4743

Жыл бұрын

If tony lets omega and the bucks walk over punk, hes a fool. Punk needs aew, aew dont need punk. They were doing fine without him

@OllieByGolly

Жыл бұрын

@@liquidfox4743 You mean like how the rantings drop like a rock whenever Punk isn't on screen? Yeah.... AEW doesn't need him at all!

@rriggs6547

Жыл бұрын

@@OllieByGolly AEW was slowly but steadily growing before Punk and Danielson. Yes they brought in a lot of people in the short run. But I think Punk has shown that, just like in ROH and WWE, he is toxic and creates issues. Will AEW take a hit? Yes, in the short term. But I think it will make them stronger in the long run.

@jedsithor

Жыл бұрын

@@rriggs6547 He didn't create this issue though.

@Kratosx23

Жыл бұрын

​​@@liquidfox4743 Other way around. Uncle Phil can sit on the couch and do nothing for the rest of his life. AEW needs him badly. Kennys return lost them 200,000 viewers, lmao. Omega and the Bucks are worthless to this company, they're no names that nobody recognizes who think their antics on a small KZread show make them as big as Brock and Roman.

The longer Bryan and Dave talked the more I think it's a work haha

@HakunonMatata

Жыл бұрын

GWS.

@tlm6021

Жыл бұрын

It's only obvious

@AE_2023

Жыл бұрын

its a work and theyre in on it.

@jaredbrady5566

Жыл бұрын

Regardless, its been great for them. It's all everyone is talking about.

Cody was so smart leaving the company

@terryalan4590

Жыл бұрын

He also didn’t get along with the evp’s, get it yet?

I bet Dave was mad having to sit in front of Punk and listen to him dissing his boyfriends.🤣

I never thought wrestling would get as crazy as it was in the attitude era again. But here we are guys

The Nick Punk mentioned was Nick Hausman, not Nick Jackson lmao Alvarez

@seankinsellasean

Жыл бұрын

Nope it was nick dismore, the brains of the operation

Punk was right about everything

The older you get, the more you understand why some bosses are rough around the edges, not looking for friends, and don't take any nonsense. People start to take advantage of your friendliness and will ruin your entire company just to feed their ego.

@joker-sh5hv

Жыл бұрын

Really disappointed in punk, but TK needs to make a stand here.

@woiku

Жыл бұрын

He needs Punk more than he needs Kenny and YB. Like no one cares about them anymore.

@dangerousdays2052

Жыл бұрын

@@joker-sh5hv TK is a mark like MJF said.

@dangerousdays2052

Жыл бұрын

@@woiku NO one cares about CM Karen. He's universally hated. He's backstage cancer and is the reason AEW can't beat Raw in the ratings anymore. Ponk's simps are just as bad, look in the mirror.

@woiku

Жыл бұрын

@@dangerousdays2052 That's why we have more viewers during Punk, than The Elite... Also RAW is under Triple H right now, a lot of new people showing up. Ofc they have a lot of viewers, still, Punk has bigger audience than Omega for example. Thinking otherwise makes you look delusional. And if something is cancer - I'm not even pro-Cornette - is thinking that Riho can be a champion. And that's what your "non-cancer" EVPs did.

Funny how Meltzer will openly bash Cornette for his comments about the Reseda guys but when Punk sits right in front of Dave and bashes them, Dave had NOTHING to say.

I think Punk is showing how his acting has improved Sounds like a gotcha gotcha for ratings

I have to wonder how much of this is probably worked. And if it is, it's still ingenious. With everything that's fake about prowrestling, the backstage stuff is the only thing left that can leave us wondering what's real and what's not. And I think certain media personalities like WOR, Chris Van Vliet, Ariel Helwani, Sean Ross Sapp, etc. are all sort of in on it.

@allenvaden1292

Жыл бұрын

Even better if thier not. Work the media as well.

@geneparmesan8108

Жыл бұрын

This is exactly how I feel. Well said.

@ads2686

Жыл бұрын

this isn't a work. this is one of aew's biggest stars effectively accusing the young bucks of making up stories about him to wrestling journalists. he is clearly pissed off & the fact khan didn't end the press conference tells me he agrees with punk.

@Christopher-dd1ph

Жыл бұрын

absolutely. except the media part, these idiots get worked more than anyone. i like dave and bryan but they get worked CONSTANTLY. they might be in on some things obviously, but they also get workeddddd.

@johns3491

Жыл бұрын

@@Christopher-dd1ph I add the media part just because I have to question how Dave, Sean, etc. get their insider information. I'm sure part of it is wrestlers submitting stuff anonymously, but I bet there's some kind of deal with the higher-ups too since the information benefits both parties. But yeah like you said, I can also totally picture wrestling companies playing the media like a fiddle. The media only knows what the companies tells them, right?

It's proof that how important Cody was for AEW. He was one of the founders and always behaved professionally and with his departure, AEW is becoming more toxic backstage. I wonder what happened between Cody and The Elite.

@rriggs6547

Жыл бұрын

Cody and the Elite have both said they are still friends and are on good terms. The unprofessionalism only started once Punk showed up.

@RavenGlenn

Жыл бұрын

@@rriggs6547 And yet all the dirt sheets were talking about a sizable rift between Cody and The Elite.

@jedsithor

Жыл бұрын

@@rriggs6547 But it wasn't Punk who started being unprofessional. It started with Hangman and then Punk did his promo receipt and then the Bucks talked shit and finally Punk exploded at the scrum. Should he have? Probably not. But Punk is always going to speak his mind.

@andrewmachado6988

Жыл бұрын

I think maybe it’s possible Cody saw all this stuff happening around him and decided to jump ship before the shit hit the fan.

@mode_7

Жыл бұрын

I like Page, but I hold the EVP’s responsible for Cody leaving and now they’ve turned to Punk. Time for them to go back to being regular wrestlers.

I gotta say its quite the twist that AEW has turned toxic while WWE's backstage morale is as high as its ever been. I also don't know how anyone can be surprised by this when Punk has been an abrasive asshole who rubs people the wrong way literally his entire life. You knew what you were getting with him

So many times there was a storyline where things got settled in the ring. I wish that was actually a thing, because there is way too much backstage (and now front stage) name-calling and I wish it would go away, because I suspect rather than leading to good matches which settle things, it's instead going to lead to people leaving promotions with bad attitudes.

It's not as if Kenny is coding the game. We're talking about Yukes working with THQ. They don't need Kenny to make a wrestling game.

@mervstash3692

Жыл бұрын

lol that's why it's taking so long. He's just graduated beginner C++

@billywashere6965

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it annoys me when people say "Kenny is developing the game", no, he's not! He's consulting with Yukes. Or "Kenny had FTR removed because he's friends with the Bucks!" that's not how that works. Yukes has to get a sign-off from the legal department that has to go through business management (which includes Tony Khan) in order to add/remove anyone from the game, whether it be to likeness issues, copyright, music, or branding. Kenny can't add or take anyone out of the game if he tried, he has ZERO power in that regard because he isn't developing anything, and has no say over the legal/copyright elements.

@mervstash3692

Жыл бұрын

@@billywashere6965 no argument there. It is turning into a bit of a white elephant though. The 10 million budget has blown right out. Apparently it's over 80 now. Maybe wasn't the best idea to go down this path of starting their own gaming division.

@billywashere6965

Жыл бұрын

@@mervstash3692 No, it isn't. It was never $80 million; the division caps at $10. $80 million is the entire ANNUAL revenue that AEW brings in; the game put them in the red for ONE quarter. That literally makes it mathematically impossible for them to have blown $80 million on the game (besides, no AAA company spends that much money on game development anymore unless it's Rockstar. You can't even fit $80 million expenditure into a two-year dev cycle). It's frustrating people keep regurgitating that falsehood.

@mervstash3692

Жыл бұрын

​@@billywashere6965 think you might want to check that again mate. 10 mil was the initial investment. Might not be 80 now (like I said, "Apparently" & I also think that is probably false), but it's definitely way more than 10 as TK himself has publicly stated a few times when it's doubled, tripled etc. You have to consider that it's not the same financial model vs doing it with 2k for example. AEW has made their own gaming division from scratch, but using Yukes as the developer. It's public knowledge there are all sorts of issues between the 2 parties, loads of delays, blown out costs, as well as many undisclosed costs. There is no way all the development & distribution falls under 10 million.

It’s funny Dave can remember anything in wrestling that’s ever happened except the contents of Hangman’s. Promo that pissed off Punk…

@BainesMkII

Жыл бұрын

Mind, the beginning of the clip is Dave claiming the show started with Larry the dog running to the ring, Bryan saying he didn't see Larry run to the ring, then Dave saying Larry didn't make it to the ring but was running around loose right before the show.

I'll tell you what, nobody's talking about clash at the castle

@khanyisasimelela1522

Жыл бұрын

Well you are

@MisaToTheMax

Жыл бұрын

@@khanyisasimelela1522 I mentioned it, yes, yes I did.

@khanyisasimelela1522

Жыл бұрын

@@MisaToTheMax facts lol

@xShoTime83x

Жыл бұрын

Nobody's talking about MJF's return either - which was supposed to be the thing.

Tony had his phone because he texted Chris to come out for his interview but after the interview if you look Chris is saying something to Tony I think it's about the fight outside.

Fix this video wtf

I can see that after Cody Rhodes left, backstage has been really "convoluted" in AEW. Maybe he was the guy who controlled the waters in the company. Tony needs a guy like Cody in backstage to improve work environment.

@thesinnombre615

Жыл бұрын

He did and you can clearly see it.

@NL-fg6it

Жыл бұрын

He was always a professional and put people over at the right time… unlike the Bucks

@Nostalgia9478

Жыл бұрын

Cody controlled NADA. He bailed because Tony started stripping EVPs of their power in Oct 2021

@duckmercy11

Жыл бұрын

No, Cody was isolated and stayed on his luxury bus w/ Brandi.

@chriskay1449

Жыл бұрын

@@duckmercy11 Wrong. It was well known that Cody was the one that would soothe egos when disagreements happened,

The "reportings" of folks like Bryan & Meltzer have contributed to Punks disgruntledness.

@wrestlingp

Жыл бұрын

And contributed to the cancerous locker room

The scrum showed why Cody was ousted. California and Japanese politics.

@hyperchord

Жыл бұрын

Can you elaborate on this?

“All Friends Wrestling was a good thing, not a bad thing.” Lmao

@philbrooks8147

Жыл бұрын

When no one challenged the elite for the top spots, everyone got along. Who would have thought?

Didn't Punk say he didn't want to sign with AEW because he didn't want any backstage drama. I don't put it past Tony to make this the next Blood and Guts match.

@rriggs6547

Жыл бұрын

My response was that AEW shouldn't hire Punk as he creates drama everywhere he goes. No drama before Punk. Now drama.

Here is the gist of it. CM Punk is angry because a story got out he got Colt Cabana pushed off the roster into ROH. He blames the leaks on Adam Page and the Young Bucks. I believe he had nothing to do with it. Colt Cabana wasn't used much before Punk came in. Why? He isn't a major star. He is an Indie darling who was made for indie shows in high school gyms. He is a dark match type of guy. That has nothing to do with CM Punk. It is entirely Colt Cabana's doing. As for the Young Bucks as EVPs. They need to go. Their interests are their own and for their friends. Not for the betterment of AEW. Tony Kahn should have realized this when Cody Rhodes jumped ship. If the Young Bucks want to leave if they get demoted. Let them go. They still have the best tag team in Wrestling with FTR. The very team the Young Bucks seem hell bent on burying in my opinion.

@turboturkey

Жыл бұрын

amen fuck the bucks

I hate Phil as much as the next guy but I gotta admit for once agree with him after his press conference and explaining himself

@rriggs6547

Жыл бұрын

Because airing grievances to the public instead of dealing with them behind closed doors is the professional thing to do I guess. Honestly, it doesn't matter to me what he may have been right about. He lost me when he took this public. I can't respect a guy who has been toxic now in 3 different promotions.

@toomanyemails4490

Жыл бұрын

It is about as professional as talking rumors to journalists and the locker room.

@notgonnapay

Жыл бұрын

@@rriggs6547 you’re right, airing grievances in public is tasteless and childish...so why did Hangman do it? And why did he decide to make this issue his number one talking point of the go-home promo of a major PPV? I was never crazy about how Punk complained for years about the WWE, though I would probably do the same if I had his experience, but he was 100% on the defensive here. He came into AEW to make money and do business, and Hangman comes out talking about ‘workers' rights’ and defending AEW from Punk. I mean, seriously? Go back home to your wife and her butterfly jeans you borrow if you want to be surrounded by a family and make no money. What happened was that these people thought that they could take a billionaire’s money to make a televised PWG where all of their talentless friends could work and be happy forever. But, unfortunately for them, the billionaire actually wants to make money from this venture, so he’s hiring people with experience in selling out stadiums. Those people are trying to grow the company and probably trying to teach these indy guys how to draw real money. Unfortunately, none of them are willing to take any advice because doing so would just prove to themselves that they’re not the perfect wrestlers they thought they were.

@taylorwashington7682

Жыл бұрын

@@rriggs6547 Going to dirt sheets and spreading rumors ain't exactly being an adult either. Look I'm still on the fence about Punk but I don't blame him for speaking out. I'll be damned if I let a bunch of grown folk start acting like high school mean girls and I'm not gonna say anything.

@keithjackewicz8423

Жыл бұрын

@@rriggs6547 Punk is undoubtedly a toxic asshole, but sending texts to Dave Meltzer and Kevin Owens about how bad Punk is being in the locker room is the opposite of how a competent, ADULT executive should handle him. The EVPs and Page made it public first, Punk is just calling their bluff.

Are we seriously not convinced how much of a work this is? And is seems like Dave and Bryan are part of it. Don't get me wrong, I love AEW, especially the wrestling, but Dave and Bryan have been major advocates for the promotion since its inception and their connections with the Young Bucks and Kenny Omega is grand. So when TK asked them to join for this media scrum, do you not think this was on purpose? Punk clearly wanted to create a lot of drama as he is moving towards a major heel turn, and what better way than throwing all of these people that fans love under the bus as he whines about silly stuff. Not only that, but he's bragging about how much he is doing for the company and how much money he is helping AEW make, which is definitely a heel tactic. He had his babyface moment in Chicago, but even the people of Chicago couldn't help themselves but cheer loudly for MJF. I guess we will see, but these seeds have been planted for a while now and we are finally seeing the heel Punk that was probably planned for earlier this summer before his injury.

@mdjcsmith

Жыл бұрын

I do wonder if people were saying the same thing about Cody though, and that turned out to be a shoot

@Rebornblader

Жыл бұрын

I just don't know why Tony would work people into thinking he is losing control of his entire company.

@jcsjapan

Жыл бұрын

@@mdjcsmith Cody's thing seemed legit because of his growing tension with Kenny and the Bucks. Remember, those guys were in it together for a few years, and the four of them started AEW with TK. The CM Punk stuff feels different, as these seeds have seemingly been planted since his feud with Hangman. Even when he was feuding with MJF, stuff came up, and now that MJF is back, Punk has been acting a bit more erratic. To me, that seems suspicious that this is all on purpose to create some interesting kayfabe in 2022. Remember, Punk and MJF are two of the best when it comes to kayfabe in the modern day, so I wouldn't be surprised if this is the case. That's all I'm saying.

@jcsjapan

Жыл бұрын

@@Rebornblader Because drama sells, and as TK is turning Punk heel, Punk creating this new drama with the company is only going to create a double-turn with MJF. The crowd in Chicago was even cheering for MJF after Punk's win, which ultimately tells me that they knew this would happen all along and have been preparing for this moment for a while. I think Punk's foot injury delayed this story, hence why MJF has been gone longer than expected, but this screams modern day kayfabe and its glorious if it is so.

@bradleybrunt4945

Жыл бұрын

A fist fight a work??? Come on man, you’re not that dumb are you?

An interesting incerpt was raised by Chris Jericho, as the narrator, on the Bruiser Brody episode of the 'dark side of the ring', where he states that once your wrestling career comes to a close, you are extremely lucky to leave with any legitimate friends left. Wether this is a pipe bomb, overly- manic shoot, reckless abandonment etc- whatever.....few guys and girls in wrestling are where they should be on merit alone. I've been in some indy locker rooms, and you can always sense that the person sat beside you is secretly hoping you fuck up and fail. I was not a wrestler, but I was reading the room, and nobody is legitimately wishing the best for anybody. It put me off massively, but I wasn't suprised by it. If I take my hand to wrestling again it would probably be for summink like the snake pit. Authentic guys, zero political bullshit, and may the best man win. Judging by some of the twitter comments; I think people are beginning to seriously reconsider if following professional wrestling is worth anything to them these days....

@colinkillian9265

Жыл бұрын

Dude wrestling has always been political, it's never been based on merit alone.. It's the fucking entertainment business, egos and politics are always going to play the largest role. If you think that the old days where not political then you're blind..

@cjfan852

Жыл бұрын

Good point but Mick Foley narrated that episode 😂

This is not a family bbq guys, its pro wrestling.

He didn’t bury MJF. He has put over MJF at every turn. He actually said he was massively talented before saying something a bit more generically negative as well.

@Christopher-dd1ph

Жыл бұрын

exactly. dave and bryan getting worked yet again.