Bryan : so what's going on Dave Dave : you tell me what's going on Bryan : *process to tell what's going on* Dave : *aigt imma cut you there*

@jasonpdsi

Жыл бұрын

And then proceeds to defend the Young Bucks and Kenny Omega as usual, without even giving a shred of credence to the possibility that they have any part in this. As far as I'm concerned, the company did fine when Omega was on the shelf and they'll do fine without him or the Bucks. Dave just can't get his smoocher off their asses for any length of time.

@NL-fg6it

Жыл бұрын

@@jasonpdsi Spot on.

@juliusrage1987

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, I stopped listening right there. I don't want to hear that shit from him

@ArcadiaAdamBae

Жыл бұрын

@@jasonpdsi As far as I'm concerned, the company did fine when CM Punk was on the shelf and they'll do fine without him or the Ace Steel. Jason PDSI just can't get his smoocher off their asses for any length of time. Such a Punk fanboy.

@shadyhavok1

Жыл бұрын

@@ArcadiaAdamBae seriously tho. He legit has a history of this. These two are also not the only people that said they didn't hear the colt shit from the bucks. Punk is falling apart. His shoulder crumbled and so did his ego when max got that huge pop in Chicago. Better go make this about me.

In a corporate setting, suspending everyone until the investigation is complete is pretty typical.

@RavenGlenn

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but since they had independent executives present to witness the whole thing, it seems incredibly strange that they would strip the titles from everyone if they are innocent in the situation. The fact they stripped everyone means that nobody is in the clear pretty much.

@RB_rules

Жыл бұрын

This isn’t typical. This is fake. Also if this is real and you have company executives attacking someone the company will/should be sued.

@chriskay1449

Жыл бұрын

@@RB_rules LOL stop. This is not fake. Good lord they literally vacated the titles with no mention of Punk or the Bucks. There is also no grounds for a lawsuit either since PUnk instigated everything with his presser. He cannot claim he was aggrieved when he basically defamed The Elite in the first place with his false claims.

@arceface

Жыл бұрын

@@RB_rules Who knows who attacked who first? It's a he said/they said at this point. All we know for a fact is Punk threw fists, Ace threw a chair, bit and ripped hair.

@bigbastard_lol

Жыл бұрын

In a corporate setting, people getting immediately fired after getting in a physical altercation is even more typical

Dave’s ability to interrupt without having a fully thought out point is unprecedented

@dannyr625

Жыл бұрын

An annoying quality.

@CarpeDiem8711

Жыл бұрын

Just let Bryan finish his fucking point THEN chime in with your incoherent rambling. His role is a color commentator, but he tries being the play-by-play guy. At this point, he should stick to writing.

@richardcoreno

Жыл бұрын

Dave is obviously all-in with AEW -- which is fine -- but a true journalist cannot also wear blinkers when there are inconvenient truths to talk/write about......and he has been in the ultra-fast spin zone so much over the past couple years that his equilibrium has to be destroyed.

@TheAc550

Жыл бұрын

Dave Meltzer vs Disco Inferno in a Steel Cage match. Winner gets to continue to interrupt people😌

@vanillaice7749

Жыл бұрын

Dave Meltzer is a typical Hebrew.

I imagine Bryan sleeping in his chair while Dave talks.

@yousmel9330

Жыл бұрын

in all fairness listening to Dave ramble is like taking a whole bottle of Nyquil to the face

@alkin4389

Жыл бұрын

Why have you commented on 6 different saying the same thing about dave interrupting, it's weird, unless you're Alvarez it's strange you're so invested in such an innocuous human behavior

Even when you turn the playback speed to max, it still takes Dave an eternity to make his point

@GameZone87

Жыл бұрын

Lmao so true…

@itaysevenfoldhamri

Жыл бұрын

The problem is he tries to make a point without making anyone upset which is impossible.

@steveh88

Жыл бұрын

@ryo saeba His repeated use of "you know" and "like" drain my will to live

@Hizzoner21

Жыл бұрын

😂😂 Gold

@bnb25

Жыл бұрын

That's because he's trying to think of excuses and lies he can tell for his boyfriends.

Someone get Dave the chap stick, he's running low

@bknrng2706

Жыл бұрын

I think his lips are surgically attached to the Bucks and Omegas asses. He fails to mention Cody as one of the founders. In the States and to the networks Cody and mainly the Rhodes name helped to legitimize AEW. Also without Jericho the buzz wouldn't have been what it was.

@WrestlingFace

Жыл бұрын

@@bknrng2706 😂😂😂

"A two hour conversation with Bill Watts that I got about two minutes worth of words in, if that" How does it feel, Dave?

@alr1129

Жыл бұрын

😆😆😆

@JDnumero1

Жыл бұрын

I also like how he says he saw this coming for "months", yet for months and months he denied there was anything going on behind the scenes.

@BainesMkII

Жыл бұрын

@@JDnumero1 That's typical Dave. Before the fact, he waffles and hedges his bets. After the fact, he acts like he knew what would happen.

To be a fly on the wall when Punk got home and AJ was standing there like “dude, WTF?!”

@goomerdoctor9479

Жыл бұрын

Oops I did it again

@JRAYDABEAST

Жыл бұрын

She’s like I’m done with you

@bigbastard_lol

Жыл бұрын

I'm guessing she'd be on her husband's side. And I'd also guess they had been in contact before seeing each other face to face again

@spac18

Жыл бұрын

​@@bigbastard_lol I feel sorry for her. Can you imagine being married to someone like Phil?

@spac18

Жыл бұрын

​@@goomerdoctor9479 hi Britney

Ace Steel's job as a producer is to stop the fight. What job do the EVP's have as, you know... the 3 EVP's?

@jonlane6527

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. There's really no excuse here for their actions. Cornette summed it up pretty nicely.

@bb-gc2tx

Жыл бұрын

evp assaulting an employee of the company can you say massive law suit lol

@jinzin1

Жыл бұрын

Precisely.

@nman1

Жыл бұрын

and biting someone is a really mature way of doing so right? Cornette is dumb and anyone who actually agrees to that manchild is living in pure delusion.

I'll just say, properly managing a Target is probably harder than being an EVP in AEW

@BookerT69

Жыл бұрын

Either way those queefs couldn’t do either cuz they’re too busy playing pocket pull with their bfs

@detalpug1033

Жыл бұрын

Well you like the elite or not this is probably a true statement as I've seen first-hand in the industry of shopping in food Giants and Walmarts does not easy at all to be managers of such facilities in fact most time it sucks

@alkin4389

Жыл бұрын

For real they definitely couldn't handle the target

@Krispen_Wah

Жыл бұрын

Yes guys tell us all more how you work at Target.... It's very interesting for sure.

@chri6393

Жыл бұрын

@@Krispen_Wah well the key thing is to ignore goofballs who think they're funny. Not just anyone can lead fancy Walmart

11 minutes in and Dave is rambling about the TV deal Tony did or didnt have in 2018? Then he talks about how much WCW made? Dave, what are you talking about man???

Not defending Punk but isn’t Dave doing exactly what Punk said the dirt sheets reporting favorably for the elite and controlling the narrative making it anti punk

Punk directly asked Meltzer what did he ever do to deserve the Bucks and Page bad mouthing him and Meltzer totally froze..now he is awfully chatty after he was told what to say by the Bucks. So fucking embarrassing

Uncle Dave showing that he's truly on the side of omega and the bucks.

@Nostalgia9478

Жыл бұрын

@@96bread The GOATS of never drawing a dime. lol

@mattdevine538

Жыл бұрын

Gotta agree, Dave getting the Bucks and Kenny's side of the story out there to save face. its pretty clear both sides were in the wrong and both sides deserve to be suspended.

@rl318

Жыл бұрын

At least he is consistent, and how can you cross the guys that had you over for dinner? None of what is happening on either side of this should shock anyone.

@MurdocIsASaint

Жыл бұрын

Bending over backwards to protect them lol

@ShahPhilLeotardo

Жыл бұрын

Dave’s probably phoned Tony Khan up to beg him to reinstate his boyfriends.

Does Meltzer ever let Alvarez talk before jumping in?? Jeez man it’s called conversation. It takes 2

@ads2686

Жыл бұрын

not when he has to defend his boys kenny & the young bucks. basically a 30 minute rant about the bucks being great, being awesome evps, how everyone should wrestle like the bucks and how punk has been trying to destroy aew. Dave doesn't want to lose his 3 buddies who leak him all the aew news true or made up.

@michaelmirza1933

Жыл бұрын

@@ads2686 Sheesh. The politics are too much for me. I just want the shows to make sense. That’s what I care about most

Meltzer on Punks aggressive actions: "yes he did do this" Meltzer on Young Bucks actions: "well that's what Punks people say" Dave Meltzer is one of Young Bucks' people. Dude is completely with them.

@mattb6616

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely. It's never been more clear lol. This is the least neutral reporting could be

@michaelmurphy8394

Жыл бұрын

Which completely backs up Punk's claim that the Elite have been balls deep in wrestling reporter's. We've only been getting their side FOR A LONG TIME. I'm not a Punk defender tho. Dude acted like an asshole.

Mess aside, this felt like a 'true' AEW show, more young guys mixed with some veteran stars. Not packed to the gills. Was enjoyable

@SSJFutureGohan62093

Жыл бұрын

It absolutely did. It had that early AEW magic to it!

@rashidhasanrafi

Жыл бұрын

100% agree

@Prophet6000

Жыл бұрын

Less is more for AEW. Every show doesn't have to be packed just a good mix and rotating stories.

@philiphaller1018

Жыл бұрын

Felt the same. Even having Sammy and Darby in the tournament. The guys who were once seen as the future guys but took a bit of a backseat to other people coming in . The whole world title tournament bracket is all OG AEW stars aside from Danielson

@santanusk2853

Жыл бұрын

@@philiphaller1018 Danielson can win the title. He is a responsible figure & one last run can stabilize the situation

I wonder if Dave let's Bryan finish his lunch. Because he sure won't let him finish a sentence

I thought they handled it well in terms of the show they put on last night. MJF not mentioning certain things, Mox giving a passionate promo, Jericho bringing some comedic relief and alluding to looking after the locker room and then some great matches that focused on young and key talent. This whole thing has been depressing and we're all far from having closure but I think Dynamite was a good indication of how strong the rest of the roster can be in a crisis. The AEW that dealt with Brodies passing in such a wonderful way is the AEW I love and that I want to see emerge from the other side of this mess. *Edit: I'm in no way comparing Brodies passing to this mess. I just think that situation showed us what AEW could be and that kind of unity should be the goal in the future.*

@junoknobloch3830

Жыл бұрын

Jericho looking after the locker room is a joke. He leeches on young talent to new to say no to his aweful storyline that wouldn't even make it on raw

@aye_its_karate6169

Жыл бұрын

Spoken like a true mark! I’m so proud.

@omarhashmi9594

Жыл бұрын

agreed 100 percent, time to move forward and onwards.

@Freethinker5

Жыл бұрын

@@aye_its_karate6169 why do wrestling fans think mark is the biggest insult?

@thunderwarrior1759

Жыл бұрын

100% agree,i to love AEW, it saved my wrestling fandom at a time when WWE went so bad it became totally unwatchable. The respect they showed Brodie and his family was a shining example of what a company with such a passionate fan base both us and the locker room love this crazy business. One day it’s going to have be addressed, either on TV or podcast but with the investigations ongoing nows not the time. Off subject i wish Best Friends and Orange had of won the trio’s belts

I am no CM Punk fan but saying Adam Page drew bigger numbers than Punk is just lunacy. Dave Meltzer is invisible man of the Elites.

@bileductable

Жыл бұрын

I know it became a bit of a running gag to say Dave and the WON crew are on the AEW/EVP payroll but JFC he really might be

@DiGesoGino

Жыл бұрын

Punk isn't a big draw, he never was.

@bnb25

Жыл бұрын

@@DiGesoGino That's much of a joke as Dave saying Page and Omega were draws.

@Hellwolf36

Жыл бұрын

Of course. Memeltzer is an Elite shill.

@vza5019

Жыл бұрын

But Page did draw bigger numbers

Did the "EVPs" disrespect the company? Curious you only find guilt in CM Punk. Stop being Biased

@fattymcfattzz

Жыл бұрын

Did they go in a media scrum and just berate people like dude

@awakenedtarot7306

Жыл бұрын

@@fattymcfattzz no, but they decided to confront a dude backstage like a bunch of thugs instead of acting like EVPs.

@Ultra_Light_Beam

Жыл бұрын

@@fattymcfattzz no, they do all the talking in Dave’s DM‘s. it’s harder to get blowback that way.

@amcdonald7479

Жыл бұрын

He ran down so many people in front of his boss. His rant about cabana and his mother when no one ever mentioned him was shocking. Punk buried him self. Never saw the bucks or omega say anything in public. Paige I dunno he's acting weird.

Dave trying to act like he didn't start all this with his "reporting"

"The Bucks have done more for the business than Punk" Somebody will clip that & send it to Punk who will then try to suffocate Dave

@realsociedadla

Жыл бұрын

Corny is gonna have a field day with that one. 🤣

Good to see Bryan and Dave staying neutral 🤣🤣

@magiccarpetride1345

Жыл бұрын

Dave can't lose his backstage sources 😂

@Shisui5752

Жыл бұрын

😂😂

@Hellwolf36

Жыл бұрын

Yes. He doesn't have his pay cheques for shilling coming in. So he will go around parading on Twitter until the Fucks and Omemega give him attention

@TheAbsurdist86

Жыл бұрын

@Parmesan Cheese Addict 😂

You can tell who’s side Dave is on. Clearly pro bucks and omega.

@MrHawk1212

Жыл бұрын

Omega could run over a family and dave would say "Well uhhhh you know the uhhhh family should not have ummmmm been there"

@carlosr6462

Жыл бұрын

@@MrHawk1212 "uuh the family should uuuh understand the new way of driving, maybe uuh they are out of touch who knows? we will see"

@ItsameBS

Жыл бұрын

He should be if they are his leakers.

@scottthegeneticfreaksteine393

Жыл бұрын

Omega could bang Dave’s wife not even sure the guy is married and he’d say well ya know uhh she uhh was not uhh hmmm satisfied so yeah uhhh I’m glad she is uhhh satisfied now.

@genofalconejr5717

Жыл бұрын

Anyone who says he isnt biased is a bigger joke then Meltzer. Its embarrassing. Hes so upset that he doesn't know when the next time will be that he can pull his pud to Bucks or Omega match. Stop acting like this guy is a journalist. He is Fan Boy Mark period

Thank you both for clearifing this up for us much appreciated

Dave would never say anything bad about his 3 adopted sons Kenny and the Young Bucks

@ronniesouthern7829

Жыл бұрын

What I do know uhm uhm is that I don’t know and uhm uhm if I did know uhm uhm I wouldn’t tell you uhm uhm.

@Wahidkhalid

Жыл бұрын

That’s a fact

@cantonio270

Жыл бұрын

😂😂 uncle Dave has nothing to report now.

@bnb25

Жыл бұрын

I think it's more twisted than just "adopted" sons

I actually like Omega and The Bucks, but this argument that Dave keeps making is absurd. Apparently wrestling has changed, and The Elite are the only ones on Earth who understand how modern-day wrestling works according to Dave. Punk apparently doesn't know how modern-day wrestling works, even though he's drawn the highest ratings, PPV buyrates, and ticket sales in AEW history.

@Ultra_Light_Beam

Жыл бұрын

Don’t forget merchandise sales, go look at the AEW shop and see who’s selling what for the week, for the month, for the year. Punk is delivering when it comes to the bank. He could’ve been wrong on all sorts of things, but the idea that he’s not making money is both weird and silly at the same time.

@siddestroyer

Жыл бұрын

At which point does he make that point ? I'll skip to it.

@elliotblitzer7774

Жыл бұрын

Shocking. Dave is gargling the Elite’s balls yet again. Lmfao delusional

@dominiquejones3805

Жыл бұрын

They don't need 2 b EVPs

@trtx84

Жыл бұрын

Being a draw doesn't give one free reign to be an asshole.

6:55 His issue was that he used the fact that he shared an account with his mom as a way out of being sued.

@telford2155

Жыл бұрын

It's almost as if Uncle Dave doesn't realize that these things are part of a larger picture. Punk doesn't care if someone shares a bank account with their mother in isolation but he cares when he countersues you and gets an email begging to drop the whole thing when discovery shows that his mom will be involved. Punk may not care that much if Adam Page went into business for himself in isolation but when he does it under the pretext of Colt Cabana at the exact same time news stories come out that Punk got Colt fired then it's a BIG f@$king issue. Punk and Cabana are basically the same as a couple that ended in a bitter divorce in terms of potential heat and everything went south when Colt's contract wasn't renewed.

@ads2686

Жыл бұрын

​​​@Art School Reject yeah the kind of guy who pays your legal fees and then you decide to get yourself your own lawyers and expect punk to pay for it. and when he tells you too fuck off try and sue him. and only dropped the lawsuit when punks lawyers wanted cabana & his mums bank accounts.

BREAKING NEWS: Omega suffered a serious hair pulling injury and was rushed to an emergency salon for reconstructive perming treatment. My thoughts and prayers 🙏

@bnb25

Жыл бұрын

LMAO best comment on here!

@ANUBIS209

Жыл бұрын

Hahahaha

@mrpink99

Жыл бұрын

Wouldn’t that be a “local haircare facility”?

@MJ-sm2yu

Жыл бұрын

@@mrpink99 very good 😁

Love how meltzer puts no blame on the elite

@hellomarysuegoodbyeplot2193

Жыл бұрын

He gave them 5 stars for getting their ass kicked.

@Krispen_Wah

Жыл бұрын

I just made a phonecall to Dave. I was wondering why he would be so biased. He told me he only did it to trigger you and all the other anti Meltzer marks. He also said you idiots would be back anyway like always just to complain instead of following something you actually enjoy.

@dschool86

Жыл бұрын

@@Krispen_Wah I’m not The Who’s triggered lol you’re the one name calling someone you don’t even know btw I like Dave I just don’t know why the EVP would confront him like that doesn’t seem like something management should be doing and if did that they prob should be removed as EVPs

@vza5019

Жыл бұрын

He shouldn't. This is 100 percent Cm Punk fault

Listening to Dave Meltzer ramble on like that is making me question my sanity. If you want information he's the the guy to ask but you'd better not expect a clear answer, or any answer for that matter.

@NL-fg6it

Жыл бұрын

Something's not right. Ever since he started handing out 5 stars plus to average Bucks and Omega matches, he's been sliding into a weird place. He makes so little sense in everything he says and does.

@Chillboyhaad

Жыл бұрын

@@NL-fg6it He’s always been bad but these last few years it’s gotten insufferable. I used to listen to WOR daily back in 2014, I can barely sit through a 7 minute clip now.

@TheJulior1983

Жыл бұрын

What’s so hard to understand? Did someone force you to watch this on KZread?

@paulmallon9292

Жыл бұрын

He's also dancing around being overtly critical. So it's slow and biased.

@Kingofthekop1

Жыл бұрын

He’s clearly on the spectrum, Cut him some slack here he can’t help it its a serious condition.

33mins of burying punk, yeah sure unbiased 😂

@SkySoFew

Жыл бұрын

As much as I was expecting it, he really didn't here. You guys are reaching on this one.

@stevenmurphy2782

Жыл бұрын

@@SkySoFew huh? really?

@spsawyer22

Жыл бұрын

He deserved to be buried and Dave and Bryan didn't even bury him here

@jakesanders269

Жыл бұрын

@@stevenmurphy2782 Yes really... Punk started all this shit. After the match he knew he was hurt and was pissed and decided to nuke the company from orbit on his way out. Mission accomplished! Bucks and Omega hear that shit so they are gonna be pissed. So they confronted that idiot and then he ups the ante by throwing the first punch and a chair and having his boy friend bite Kenny.

@stevenmurphy2782

Жыл бұрын

@@jakesanders269 there's obviously a problem in the locker room. punk was wrong to call it out at a press conference but that's something that can be dealt with, that didn't nuke the company, the bucks decision to go into his locker room blew this up beyond what it should have been. there are plenty of egos in this, not just punk's. if this is treated properly it just brings more eyes on AEW.

I love it when Alvarez brings up a good point that I don't think Meltzer had thought of yet so there's this pause where he's like "yeah that's smart I'll agree"

@alkin4389

Жыл бұрын

I've literally never heard of that happening once. Alvarez usually goes silent for 20 minutes out of fear he may say something dumb

@dabadaba5847

Жыл бұрын

i appreciate that dave actually thinks things through like that

@normallyimnuts767

Жыл бұрын

@@alkin4389 wait... you think Brian will say something dumb? Not Dave 75 Word Vocabulary Meltzyweltzy?

Tony Khan is the sole reason AEW exists. It’s his money and commitment. Cody, Jericho, the Jackson’s, Omega, Moxley all played their part. But acting like the Bucks are brilliant revolutionaries who are architects is ridiculous.

@gjcfp36

Жыл бұрын

He's the most important party by a mile. But he was a wrestling fanatic and the son of a multi-billionaire for his whole life. He only started a company once the Elite created a built-in audience that could be counted on to support a new company. To say nothing of the relationships they cultivated for years with independent talent that was used to build a roster. TK is by far more important but it doesn't happen without both parties.

Dave let Bryan speak

Who cares MJF is back … and every one loves the acclaimed

@TheAbsurdist86

Жыл бұрын

Push those guys, Starks, Hobs and Wordlow.

@lifetacopodcast

Жыл бұрын

There's so many. MJF, Hobbs, Hook, Darby, Miro, Jungleboy, Starks, etc. etc. etc. They should stop obsessing over The Elite & Punk

@Krispen_Wah

Жыл бұрын

@@lifetacopodcast Will you be cutting promos for Jungleboy? Because he sure as hell is not going to...

@lifetacopodcast

Жыл бұрын

@@Krispen_Wah 😆😂💀

@lifetacopodcast

Жыл бұрын

@@Krispen_Wah I feel like the gimmick fits not really needing to, if he played it up a little more. He just looks the part though, doesn't really play the part lol

They should lose their EVP titles as well. You can't act like that when you hold a position of power.

@Hacksaw_HIM_Thuggin

Жыл бұрын

The more the details come out they did everything right. Punk and Ace steel are actual children.

@user-uy3yn7dv3v

Жыл бұрын

@@Hacksaw_HIM_Thuggin the details that came out are The Elite version of the story and haven't been reported by any other news outlet not to mention the fact it's totally unrealistic

@heinz5732

Жыл бұрын

@@Hacksaw_HIM_Thuggin spoken like someone who’s never held a position of power. You’re an EVP, you represent the company. The children being Omega and Bucks who somehow grifted a billionaires son into being “professionals” (even tho nothing they’ve done in the ring represents professional wrestling. Professional acrobatics, yes)

@Hacksaw_HIM_Thuggin

Жыл бұрын

@@heinz5732 cry some more please and hope cm punk pays your bills

He brought up the Colt story cause he had all of you media guys in the room and the media has been gossiping about how it was Punk that got Colt kicked off of AEW. So he felt the need to address it face to face and squash it, because as he said, he’s been eating shit about it for a while. Could he have been the bigger man? Sure. Did he have to go as far as he did with the moms bank account and stuff? No. But it’s Punk. Buy the ticket take the ride. If he gets to the point where he has to speak on it, it aint gunna be pretty

When this investigation is done its going to be real interesting to hear.

Not shocked Meltzer is batting for his boys. Punk may be a prick but he’s an honest prick. The Elite are just as bad as Punk on the topic of being power hungry in the wrestling business, the best example of that is putting the Trio titles on themselves.

Moxley is the one who put AEW on the map

@mikeprince2036

Жыл бұрын

Mox is the sandman of aew without the beer and cigarettes lol

@EmperorTaebok

Жыл бұрын

LOL You think AEW is on the map

@heinrichvonwicker168

Жыл бұрын

That would be MJF, he's the only thing that got people actually interested in watching. Moxley acts like he's mentally handicapped...

@jinzin1

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Mox left W.W.E. on a high note, battling Drew Mac for several weeks in the most entertaining fued of the company at the time, then dropped into A.E.W. with a match that had all the hype and got the people talkin'...

@TheSaxon.

Жыл бұрын

Tony's Daddies money put AEW on the map.

How does Brian Alvarez not fall asleep when Dave is talking…lol😂

@Baraka_Obama_

Жыл бұрын

😂

@ChrisWolff2013

Жыл бұрын

He ain't exactly the most eloquent individual in podcasting either.

I'm sure the anti Elite Camp loves talking to Dave, since he is a neutral party. 🤫

@Krispen_Wah

Жыл бұрын

i can tell you that the anti Dave camp will still be listening to Meltzer in 10 years....

Why does it take Dave 7 hours to make a point that most of us could in 1 minute????

@bnb25

Жыл бұрын

because he's trying to think of a lie to protect his boyfriends.

@TenaciousDDP101

Жыл бұрын

Autism

@puddingcatsteamboat6393

Жыл бұрын

because all his points become lessons is the history of wrestling, which sometimes i find interesting and sometimes brain numbing.

@Krispen_Wah

Жыл бұрын

You really want to know why? Because you still show up to listen to it. If there were no people clicking the videos and subbing their service he would probably change something.

Dave reminds me of the adults huddled up rambling on south park

Jericho and Mox are the absolute backbone and heart of AEW, they always have the companies back when needed and it's never been more apparent. They deserve all the credit in the world

@Mitchell_E_Underscore

Жыл бұрын

And they definitely both have a rep for sometimes getting emotional, or even hot-head and confrontational. The difference is they also see the big picture and seem to understand when and how to let those frustrations bubble over in a way that won't hurt or embarrass the company.

Dave can't help himself. Stop interrupting everyone who they are talking

@Ultra_Light_Beam

Жыл бұрын

I’m not sure I’ve ever heard anyone you so many words in order to not make a point. Is this what people mean by work rate??

13 minutes in and this just sounds like Dave is subliminally asking Tony not to fire the bucks and Kenny

@devindt77

Жыл бұрын

Yep Dave is basically saying fire punk after his injury, and keep suckin the bucks/omegas little clucks.

@Hellwolf36

Жыл бұрын

Memeltzer is scared that his shill cheques will stop coming

@d04lvallier

Жыл бұрын

They shouldn't be fired honestly

Dave, you have attended numerous UFC press conferences where the fighters talk shit about the company or Dana. This happens regularly. I'm sure Dave isn't going to read KZread comments but come on lol. Punk clearly felt his media coverage has been unfair and when Hangman goes off script to and claims Punk is the reason someone lost a job when that person already sued him. Surely, adding this context would've been useful? Then we have Dave stating Bucks paved the way. Cody, Bucks and Kenny played a huge role but you can't have EVPs storm/walk into a personal locker room of guy who already critiqued on them few minutes back. Unfortunately Dave sounded like he was picking a side whereas Bryan Alvarez has been careful to be as neutral as possible.

@Ultra_Light_Beam

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, at least Brian‘s making an effort.

@memphispiper2823

Жыл бұрын

Punk went into business for himself.

@nhlstx

Жыл бұрын

He has his side, it's clear as water. Always was. I can listen but I can spot when you're not being neutral or you're trying to follow a certain narrative.

@blablablaa14

Жыл бұрын

Its not the same. UFC fighters careers are super short and they don't have to be okay with company decisions. They just need to get in the ring and fight. It doesn't matter what they think of the company cause them walking out or not fighting means nothing, whereas wrestling is dependent on people agreeing to decisions in the back and losing a fight to someone they may not like. Stop excusing Punk because Hangman once said a line that no one knew referred to Colt. Punk was a child seating at home being mad that Hangman said something three months ago and then decided to go after the founders of the company, the soul of the company. Because Punk only cares about what is good for Punk and once he got his fill of AEW and their benefit to him he will walk away without caring what happens or how much he buried the talent in the back on the way there. He ruined his own story with MJF because he couldn't keep his personal issues to himself. Who cares what wrestling media says? What are you a child? They buried Punk for 7 years when he was away, now he suddenly cares what they write?

@nhlstx

Жыл бұрын

@@blablablaa14 Iol

Dave is complaining about Bill Watts not being able to get in many words with him. Obviously, he doesn't pay attention to his own conversations.

Oh I see now that Dave is playing damage control….he didn’t have this same energy until his little buddies got suspended now we are on this Punk in the wrong bashing session!🤦🏾‍♂️ Do you see why now that Punk blew up the way he did????

@cjflysociety1950

Жыл бұрын

Glad somebody sees it. Clearly picking sides now.

@Greatnes2009

Жыл бұрын

@@cjflysociety1950 Let’s be honest the guy that was the face of AEW or the All In show was Cody Rhodes! These douchebag dumbasses were playing the background! How ironic none of this nonsense really started until Punk got into the title picture and then we started hearing a smear Punk campaign! I believe they pushed Cody out they’ve had problems with FTR and now Punk and these reporters like Dave are the reason Punk came off contentious because of this kinda bullshit he’s spewing on this video!!🤦🏾‍♂️

@bileductable

Жыл бұрын

100%. It's the things like this that have been building up for months for Punk. Now Dave is going as far as saying that Punk carefully planned all this. Meltzer couldn't even respond when Punk confronted his BS reporting and now he's taking his chance to help bury him

@Greatnes2009

Жыл бұрын

@@bileductable Facts!!! He acted real scared when Punk called him out! This is why wrestling is drawing less than it has been and let me say this….Dave who knew who an Adam Paige was before AEW? Don’t worry I’ll wait!😂

@carlosr6462

Жыл бұрын

@@Greatnes2009 now that we know him, we can say he is one of the worst world champions in AEW history

Dave will do anything to go out his way for his friends. Let’s act like the executive Vice Presidents of the company didn’t approach his locker room angry to have a “verbal confrontation”. Then proceed to say everyone knows punk threw the first punch. They went in to his vicinity aggressively, but let’s act like nothing is wrong with that. Pathetic. Dave is nothing but a bias journalist who pushes his opinions as facts.

@toniyakovlev4403

Жыл бұрын

What's funny is these geeks say Adam Page did nothing wrong yet they bash Punk for firing back at Page. And saying that Page "did something" by headlining shows is so laughable it could be considered an execution method "death by laughter". These people finally have some real star power on the show and they go out of their way to bash him behind his back and do whatever to make him unhappy. How anyone could be behind them IRL is beyond me.

I think TK did what was best, vacate the titles, don't mention their names, put on a great show that focuses on the young talent, hopefully, everything gets sorted out.

@pooldead7712

Жыл бұрын

I respected Tony how he addressed things.

@santanusk2853

Жыл бұрын

Yeah then MJF came & addressed WWE. Pretty respectful of him to use WWE to gain heat instead of using Punk & EVPs.

@arthurhex770

Жыл бұрын

@@santanusk2853 thats the story here, and they will keep doing that so stop with "mention WWE to get heat" bullshit, he got most of the heat with just fooling the audience.

@TommyTarhun

Жыл бұрын

He's been pushed around for a while. This was a nice show of power. It's his company after all

@santanusk2853

Жыл бұрын

@@arthurhex770The only bullshit is his promo. I guess people were correct when they said he's a one trick pony. Where did I hear his WWE promo? Oh yeah his last promo.

Kind of a biased take from Dave IMO.

@johnm140

Жыл бұрын

Clearly

@theamazingpowderedtoastman4816

Жыл бұрын

More like astronomical bias

Also - can we get Jacob Fatu in AEW to wreck shit like he did in MLW?

@theeXodusof730

Жыл бұрын

I don't think his contract is up in MLW.

@MrRyanlennie2005

Жыл бұрын

No idea why he re signed with MLW. He’s way too good not to be on regular national tv.

@IrateTurkey

Жыл бұрын

@@MrRyanlennie2005 I agree. That being said MLW does deserve national TV the product is generally great. It'd be better if they had the money to spend.

@rl318

Жыл бұрын

The rumor about Jacob is that people are gun-shy about him because of his criminal record. Granted, AEW let Nick Gage on television, but Warner seems to dictate things to them about who can be on television now, so who knows what the vetting process is.

@MrRyanlennie2005

Жыл бұрын

@@rl318 he’d be an amazing get for them. Absolute stone cold killer.

Id love to see Dave ramble when the Elite get sacked

@spac18

Жыл бұрын

Nah, Punk won't be coming back, the elite will be back.

@williambuchko5797

Жыл бұрын

@@spac18 7 on the elite side suspended 2 on punks side elite went on there 3 on 1 to start some shit 1 got slept and then they needed there 4 buddies to come to there aide. Punk isn't going anywhere he's the#1 draw for them the bucks n omega can easily be replaced. They have shown there star power isn't what they thought it was

@ShahPhilLeotardo

Жыл бұрын

Dave Meltzer’s is fuming that his boyfriends have been beat up and suspended 🤣

@JC-ok4yx

Жыл бұрын

@@williambuchko5797 Interesting, how to you know they "went on there 3 on 1 to start some s.."? It's just as believable they went to apologise and clear the air and Punk started cussing them out as soon as they walked in. Neither of us were there, so how do you know?

@williambuchko5797

Жыл бұрын

@@JC-ok4yx there's plenty of talk of what happened just cause you're fixated on these bums with an angle to spin in the elites favor tells me alot. If punk was the aggressor why did 7 people on the elite side get suspended? 🤔 if punk was the aggressor why are they stripped of titles? Once the 3rd party investigation is done and the elite get shit canned you can come back here n apologize for being the mark you are

Dave’s bias on full display

@mosesjuice2

Жыл бұрын

i hope brian last plays this to jim cornette. lol will be gas

Talk about Dave being bias…. Punk had every right to call out the bucks and Cobana… they made up false accusations and put it in the media about him to slander him, and at the end of the day you can bet your life on it if ftr were still in the building there wouldn’t of been a chance in hell the bucks and omega go and confront punk. Good on punk for not taking their shit like everyone else seems to do.

How can Meltzer/Alvarez and Wrestling Observer have any credibility on this story? They are very much involved in the whole thing, are close friends with the Elite and simply cannot be objective. At no point here have either of them ever considered Punk’s side to it, that the Elite may have behaved inappropriately as well, and that they certainly did not start AEW from nothing. Khan’s billions may have played a part and the signing of major, non-indie talent bringing in a wider audience. Also I think Cody’s contributions in the early days are totally forgotten now. But none of that is acknowledged by these “journalists”.

@PepsiMan666

Жыл бұрын

Meltzer explicitly cites 'Punk's side' of the story several times, not just in this video but throughout his entire coverage. As friendly as they are with the Elite, they realize they weren't there. It's possible both 'sides' are wrong and a third party will eventually tell the more accurate story.

@fattymcfattzz

Жыл бұрын

Why did you listen then?

@chriskay1449

Жыл бұрын

This BS shows you have not listened at all. Meltzer explicitly stated that Punk and his side are giving their account of things while The EVP's are giving their side of things. At no point has he ever stated one side as fact. Also, He has readily stated that he was not there. He has also publicly and empthatically stated that Punk's claim that the EVP's leaked info to him was completely false. Fianlly, he has reported Punk's side of things several times. At no time did Meltzer ever state that the EVP's were innocent. They have plenty of credibility and have reported this fairly. YOu are a PUnk mark mad that he refuses to claim Punk's story to be fact.

@chriskay1449

Жыл бұрын

@@PepsiMan666 They also have stated they weren't there publicly not to mention that he also reported that AEW Head of Legal witnessed it and her account will be the decider.

@chriskay1449

Жыл бұрын

ps Punk has not brought in a wider audience. The AEW's viewership is is exactly the same now with Punk as it was before Punk got there. Also, as Dave stated, Tony was not going to start the company without The Bucks and Omega.

You guys should change the channel name to Y.B.P.A ( Young Bucks Protection Agency ) you’ve said very little about how the bucks abused their power as EVPS and they were more in the wrong for confronting punk when he was clearly pissed

@RolfeSenpai

Жыл бұрын

Tell me exactly how the Bucks abused their authority? By going to reprimand the guy who just publicly embarrassed the whole company by airing personal grievances to the media? That’s not abusing their authority, that is literally their jobs as executives of the company.

Not the best executive decision to approach Punk at that point. Just from an administrative standpoint

@thecountrystyle5670

Жыл бұрын

He asked for a fight. If they didnt approach him he would continue insulting them like Page. They need to shut that girl up. I support the Bucks 1000%

@BorrowedMemories

Жыл бұрын

@@thecountrystyle5670 such manly men ganging up on someone

@SuperDaidai14

Жыл бұрын

I hear you. I also would like to know how did they approach him. If I was at least Kenny who was said to have been the calmer heads of the situation, I would’ve told the bucks let’s wait and sleep on it because emotions were high but they didn’t so I’m not totally confident they went over there not heated.

@RockSmith-rl9qr

Жыл бұрын

Bucks are bitches you can tell

@CSick27

Жыл бұрын

@@BorrowedMemories Dont tell 3 people to come see you, then. When punk sues because he got a confrontation that he straight up asked for, i dont know how people can still act like hes some badass rebel. The bucks probably shouldve been better "executives," but just as men, i dont really have a problem with them confronting punk

How is Tony going to book good shows without scary talents like Michael Nakazawa and Brandon Cutler?

@AdamSMessinger

Жыл бұрын

Damn. I hadn’t thought of that. AEW is doomed, bruh!

19:20 Lmao🤣 No way fans are done with AEW. If they withstood these past 2 decades of Vince’s bad product then they’ll stay around for this.

@amcdonald7479

Жыл бұрын

Can tell you if the ELITE leave many of us will cancel. It's all elite wrestling not all punk wrestling.

@TheAc550

Жыл бұрын

@@amcdonald7479 Re-read my comment.

@amcdonald7479

Жыл бұрын

@@TheAc550 eh? You said no way fans are done with aew. Well... I'm a fan and if the ELITE go so do I. Why am I to reread your comment?

I really hoped for some objectivity from Dave and Bryan on this story, but the former in particular is very blatantly siding with Kenny and the Bucks here. Always enjoy insights from these two (even when a 1-minute point takes Dave about 15), but there's no empathy with Punk and the frustration he must have felt going into that press scrum. Maybe if Dave had their legion of fans blaming him for Colt Cabana's shortcoming, he'd be pissed too. 🤷‍♂

@blake8075

Жыл бұрын

Yeah Bryan and Dave should’ve thought that, if Kenny and the bucks had their titles stripped, then They clearly had to do something wrong

@Macgyver00

Жыл бұрын

empathy for what? the guy acted like a petty little b*tch.

@rigsby1454

Жыл бұрын

Dave has massively put over Punk's side, but the fact is you can't do what he did. The Bucks and Kenny should be punished as well, but Punk is a miserable fuck who has a complex

@michaelfarrow5817

Жыл бұрын

Ace Steel committed two class 3 misdemeanours. If the State's Attorney is a prick, that's probation, maybe jail time. Dave is giving him the benefit of the doubt and he's still biased? Genuinely, you need to examine your own biases before accusing others.

@MoistFishTacos

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Its rediculous. Idk what his fasination with them is. But Vince is out, AEW is no longer the "Revolution". WWE is on fire, and its a better product finally. So AEW needs to adapt. Its clear Meltzer is saying shit that the evps have been slamming in his ear. Punk is "old" cant "change" rubbed people the wrong way but is real vague. I think the biggest issue with AEW right now is that anyone that challenges the bucks and omega are gonna get hit with a smere campaign.

Other than DoN (which was Punk/Page) and All out 2022, what PPV's did Punk Headline? And what PPV's did Page headline that outdrew Punk?

@lonesome_commie

Жыл бұрын

And all out 2021 drew mostly off the back of Punk's debut match

Dave’s pathetic crush on the young bucks is tarnishing his legacy

Meltzer saying ppvs headlined by Adam Page drew better than ones headlined by Punk, tells you all you need to know about Meltzer... Yeah I am sure Adam Page is this huge ppv draw that's why those ppvs drew well. 7-star journalism, Dave.

@jordanspooner681

Жыл бұрын

Exactly if that was the case they’d probably be headed towards putting the title back on him

@Tamlinearthly

Жыл бұрын

The numbers are the numbers, kiddo.

@user-uy3yn7dv3v

Жыл бұрын

Yeah because the Revolution PPV people really bought that to watch Adam Cole Vs Adam Page and not CM Punk Vs MJF 😂

@catholicguy3605

Жыл бұрын

Dave is so sad.

@bileductable

Жыл бұрын

Dave is a clown and Hangman is the least charismatic champion to hold any belt in AEW

Jeezus is this a newsletter or a loveletter to the bucks and omega

@BadstreetMI

Жыл бұрын

Well, they are Dave's best buddies 4 life, and Dave long ago decided that was more important than having credibility.

@cantonio270

Жыл бұрын

😆 it sounded like they broke up. Uncle dave has no 5 stars to give out now.

@alistahr

Жыл бұрын

He’s not lying. The Bucks and Kenny were the reason AEW happened

@BadstreetMI

Жыл бұрын

@@alistahr No, it happened because a billionaire's kid decided he wanted a new toy to play with.

@jonlewisclips

Жыл бұрын

@@BadstreetMI that’s cute you think that, but AEW wouldn’t exist if it weren’t for The Bucks, Kenny, and Cody. It’s not even debatable.

You can hear the pain in Uncle Dave's voice the cool kids table is empty

I lasted 8 minutes and can't take Meltzer anymore. He just keeps tossing up the vaguest word salads possible. I keep saying "get to it!" in my head. It's genuinely frustrating.

@jorrodmackey5740

Жыл бұрын

Dave just spent over 10 minutes Shifting the blame to cm punk

@meekrob

Жыл бұрын

@@jorrodmackey5740 which really shouldn't have taken more than about 30 seconds

@bnb25

Жыл бұрын

It's because he's trying to think of lies and excuses for his boyfriends.

@jorrodmackey5740

Жыл бұрын

@@bnb25 🤣

So was it respectful to the company when the Executive Vice Presidents of the company went into the World Champion's locker room and started a fight?

@deejayconner1760

Жыл бұрын

Wrestling observer aka Young Bucks Protection Agency

@chriskay1449

Жыл бұрын

How do you know they started a fight? Oh right, you believe what the massive PUnk mark reporter reported. THere is ZERO evidence that they started the fight. It is hilarious how you will immediately believe anything that makes Punk out to be innocent even when it is BS from Punk's mouth.

@deejayconner1760

Жыл бұрын

@@chriskay1449 who’s locker room did the fight take place in?

@deejayconner1760

Жыл бұрын

@@chriskay1449 why go to his locker room if your not trying to start or instigate the fight because based off his behavior he didn’t seem like he wanted to talk

@deejayconner1760

Жыл бұрын

@@chriskay1449 and their have been reports of the bucks and Kenny’s behavior behind the scenes for years this is just the first time someone had the balls to go public against them try listening to other reporters the Alvarez and Meltzer

"Something like this would NEVER happened under Vince" Are people conveniently forgetting that Nailz choked Vince out, and that Bret knocked him out? lol

@Orrand_One

Жыл бұрын

Great point

@Nostalgia9478

Жыл бұрын

@@Orrand_One Thanks

@Nostalgia9478

Жыл бұрын

@ny giants fan raider fanBut i thought Vince was sooooo good at maintaining control of his locker room? Nailz and Bret sure showed Vince a ton of respect in those incidents, eh? lol Face it, pal. Vince wasnt as respected as WWE has conditioned you to believe..At least no wrestler has ever put their hands on Tony

@mst0577

Жыл бұрын

Yes. It is very weird to me that people think there is no learning curve for Tony. Like, Vince just invented a successful promotion out of thin air.

@BadstreetMI

Жыл бұрын

@@Nostalgia9478 You do realize you are only coming with two incidents in 40 years of being the boss. Tony has been around for 3. Come back with that point in about 20 years, and it might have relevance. Something specifically like this would never have happened under Vince because he would never have been a mark and an idiot, and named a bunch of active "wrestlers" as VP's. Vince never even had an active wrestler booking for him. The office and the boys were always separate. And I am certainly not a WWF honk. I stopped watching that promotion in 1998. I just live in reality, not spin world.

I didn't get the whole "he shares a bank account with his mother" thing as if Cabana was living off Mom rather than sharing an account to take care of her. I'm sure that he did tell Punk let's stop all this (because now the lawyers are coming after my Mom), but it's not quite as sinister as it was made to be. That tells you all you need to know about CM Punk.

@hothotheat3000

Жыл бұрын

Punk has a restraining order on his mom. His brother stole from him. His dad was a raging drunk. He doesn’t know what a healthy relationship looks like.

@jameshorne3788

Жыл бұрын

The first time maybe, but the second time he mentioned it was definitely supposed to be derogatory.

@StoneColdClassics

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, Punk insults a man for taking care of his mother just because he doesn’t take care of his. I’m sure Colt did some asshole things but that’s just about the only valiant thing he’s ever done lol.

@bobadicious

Жыл бұрын

The reporter didn't even bring up Cabana, Punk did.

@juliusrage1987

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, I was thinking the same thing. It's a funny line but in all actuality, Colts probably taking care of his mom

He 100% went out with an axe to grind… No question prompted any of Punks rambling!

@Drollpanther

Жыл бұрын

Its really just a matter of how long before hand he planned it out. Was it weeks or was it he figured walking up to the scrum hey now I have everyone here who has been running with rumors that aren’t true, time to bring it up

Pathetic the way Meltzer and Alvarez take up for their crew the Cucamonga Kids Club...they can do no wrong

@Macgyver00

Жыл бұрын

not hard to do when cm punk is such a prick.

AEW could turn this into a huge money making angle.

@mikeprince2036

Жыл бұрын

I believe that's best for their business lol truthfully. I think if punk comes back they should not let anyone know. Start rampage or dynamite, have punk in the ring Indian style , let him cut a promo of a lifetime.

@jinzin1

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, they need to turn this into money.

"Tony did nothing" A good summary of the situation, and how it got where it got. Tony needs to start pulling rank instead of acting like his personal wrestler collection is going to "get along" because reasons. Three of your "executives" getting in fights, regardless of who started it, is a real bad look. Tony APOLOGIZING to Punk while Punk's just running it down makes it feel like he has no control over the situation.

@THEATTKID

Жыл бұрын

He pulled rank by suspending everyone and vacating the titles.

@ruanwiese2299

Жыл бұрын

@@THEATTKID After the damage was done....

@hokiebuddy

Жыл бұрын

Tony looked like a wuss sitting next to punk running down everyone and the company

@TrueFan4EverBACK

Жыл бұрын

But isn’t it sad that a grown man has to tell other grown men to get along or be civil? And who knows what he did, maybe he had conversations and no one listened. Maybe he didn’t think it was that intense. Who knows but from this incident I hope Tony has learned a lot.

@dominiquejones3805

Жыл бұрын

@@hokiebuddy he wouldn't of been cutting Vince off. WTF did CM Punk mean by saying I'm trying 2 run a business?

What about the fact that EVPs acting like a bunch of kids. Make sure u defend your friends,Dave

@MichaelEmmanuelArriaga

Жыл бұрын

Nah, we'll just blame CM Punk and Larry.

@greghughes6098

Жыл бұрын

Umm umm ummm so so so uh uh uh

@ReeseFPV

Жыл бұрын

@@greghughes6098 lol

@ReeseFPV

Жыл бұрын

@@MichaelEmmanuelArriaga exactly

I love "you tell me" being Dave's new catchphrase

People are ignoring the real victims in this. Target store managers.

Dave and his biased journalism! Great work once again

@puddingcatsteamboat6393

Жыл бұрын

neutral journalism doesn’t exist anymore even in the mainstream media, your best bet is to just listen to someone with a bias you agree with more.

I’m new here. I’m liking the content so far. 👍

Just give Mox another lengthy reign already, dude is at the top of his game and delivers in the ring and on the mic every single night

@kingslayer2999

Жыл бұрын

Nope give the belt to Bryan Danielson who then should drop it to MJF

@mattb6616

Жыл бұрын

Please no, he's awful as champion. The only good champs in this damn company were Jericho and Punk

@zlanath

Жыл бұрын

nah Mox said on Dynamite, he's supposed to be on vacation.....

Bryan and Vinny need to read the comments about Dave's problem on the interruption, because it's getting out of hand now. 😏 On the video itself, it's clear that these guys are biased and they're shilling for the Bucks. I've lost all respect that I've had for them.

Remove to evp status and give them to Regal, Henry, Wright or someone who had more experience in the business.

@andy2069

Жыл бұрын

Why? What did the bucks and Kenny actually do that was bad?

@Baraka_Obama_

Жыл бұрын

@@andy2069 Kenny nothing, Bucks are leakers

@sonicboomerino7281

Жыл бұрын

@@andy2069 rumors that they kicked in the door and were just being threatening in general to an employee. But it doesn't even matter, active wrestlers shouldn't be involved in the management, serious conflict of interest. Give it to older wrestlers who are more experienced and seem to be getting paid for nothing so far lol.

@bnb25

Жыл бұрын

@@andy2069 They're exects. They handled that whole situation like children.

22:40 I love how DM plays it off like the media didn't have a part to play in this. So Dave uses words like "imaginary" to make it seem like Punk was delusional at the time.

@bnb25

Жыл бұрын

Typical media. They create the "news" then pass the blame off.

@Ultra_Light_Beam

Жыл бұрын

Come on, we all know Dave is really really really really really neutral. He’s not biased at all man. How could you ever come to that conclusion? It’s not like his website ran an article about the scrum in which they literally removed Dave’s name from the quotation by Punk.

@lucasmiles6927

Жыл бұрын

It was reported by several outlets that many believed Punk was responsible for Colt being fired. That means someone started that rumor. They have worked the same show since Punk joined AEW, so they truly don’t give a fuck about what each other do as long as they don’t have to interact, but someone started that rumor. It’d make sense that it was someone close to Colt that started it, so it’s not a stretch to say it was someone associated with the Elite. They could have started that rumor and still not have directly told the media that it was Punks fault. It could have made its way around so much that it’s super hard to track down the source.

@TrueFan4EverBACK

Жыл бұрын

Yupppp. They are to blame for a lot of these issues by reporting rumors instead of actual facts. Like right now the investigation is going on but they still feel entitled to know what’s going on or what actually happened.

@blablablaa14

Жыл бұрын

Dude why does suddenly wrestlers care what is said in wrestling media about them? Why do they suddenly care instead of just burying them as they always do? Its a joke that Punk got mad at media. You're 42, get your shit together

Dave: I got like 2 minutes of words in Me: impossible

It's not even funny how openly biased Dave is anymore. It's journalistic malpractice, if wrestling media even believes in such a thing

What PPVs has drawn better than the two PPVs Punk has headlined? If Dave is talking about Full Gear and Revolution the biggest matches on those cards hype wise were Punk matches too. Like who bought Revolution to see Adam Page vs Adam Cole. Everyone was there for Punk vs MJF.

@BadstreetMI

Жыл бұрын

Page hasn't drawn a dime. It's just more Dave spin for his best buddies.

@natew1639

Жыл бұрын

Couldn't agree more. That was a fairly ridiculous comment to make by Dave. Know he's sticking up for his friends, but good lord.

@forziziwaltz7998

Жыл бұрын

Did you base this one KZread views? How the hell is Punk's match the biggest match in those ppv?

@BadstreetMI

Жыл бұрын

@@forziziwaltz7998 Um. It's based on where the interest was. Interest was on Punk. Nobody outside of Dave's nerd cult cares about Page. Punk actually draws casuals and old fans that had quit watching. That's called mass appeal. Punk has it. Page has no appeal.

@forziziwaltz7998

Жыл бұрын

@@BadstreetMI you're pulling this from your ass, no proof that "most people bought it because of Punk" or "Punk's match is the biggest on the card"

Can't wait for Meltzer and Alvarez to talk about the Backstage Brawl at the UFC 279 Press Conference for 30 Minutes on Observer Radio.

It's amazing Mush Mouth can talk while performing felatio on the PWG boys

Half hour of burying Punk and not mentioning any blame by the other participants..... Then Dave wonders why people think he's bias towards the Elite and crew.

@jenisia3600

Жыл бұрын

Dont worry im sure corny will do the same on his podcast, bury the elite and dickride punk 🤗🤗

And here was me thinking journalism was supposed to be unbiased. Also, speaks volumes to the professional history of both people and wrestling as a whole that they don't know how suspensions and investigations work in an actual company. Mind-blowing.

@rif5556

Жыл бұрын

Listen to Cornette speak about Punk and then him speak on The Elite. That's virtually Dave Meltzer but flip flopped lol.

Listening to Wrestling Observer with headphones on in public is a bad idea. I just loudly bursted out with "Dave let him fuckin talk!" accidently a crowded bus. Bryan must have the patience of a saint

Something is wrong when the journalist becomes part of the story

Dave is the new bill watts rambling on not letting Byran talk

I'm so sick of "what works and what doesn't work". Dave constantly say it and gives no tangible examples. Things work when it's bad guys vs good guys. And that's not just wrestling, but in all storytelling.

@carlosr6462

Жыл бұрын

It is so irritating and ignorant, I just laugh at Dave Meltzer now.

@dabadaba5847

Жыл бұрын

that's definitely not accurate of all storytelling at all though... i mean it's pretty accurate for like third graders maybe?

@mayomonkey-gen1

Жыл бұрын

@@dabadaba5847please list me 5 legendary stories, tales, movies or great wrestling feuds that don't involve either a fantastic hero or villain.

@dabadaba5847

Жыл бұрын

@@mayomonkey-gen1 if you can define for me exactly what you mean by "things work when it's good guys vs bad guys," i can do that for you. right now i'm thinking that anything i list, you'll just find some way of saying that it supports your position. like in your mind, what even qualifies as 'good guys vs bad guys' and what would not qualify as that?

@mayomonkey-gen1

Жыл бұрын

Heroes conquering evil is probably the oldest trope in storytelling. And it's survived for so long because it works. Would dusty vs flair have been better if there was grey area in the storytelling? Or if they were just two men trying to be the best athletically? And your comment about 3rd graders was completely asinine. I guess The Crow is a child's story. But even the stories that are for 3rd graders....ninja turtles he-man etc... are still nostalgia-whored by Hollywood to this day, because it might be simple stories of good versus evil. But it still works, even to people who are adults now. And who is a more popular character than spiderman? (Arguably the biggest character) would he be as popular if his villains weren't around. And spiderman just was trying to win an athletic contest? Edit: apologize for the long running sentences.

Dave just talked for 15 min straight without taking a breath. I forgot Bryan was there for a few mins

Hopefully some of the talent who’ve been relegated to Elevation/KZread purgatory take this window of time as an opportunity to get themselves over to Dynamite or Rampage 🤷‍♂️ This is what Vince calls “grabbing the Brass Ring” 😂