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Bryan and Dave discuss the latest regarding the altercation between CM Punk, Ace Steel, and The Elite, what caused the underlying tension, what needs to be done, and much more. [September 6, 2022]
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It has to physically hurt Dave to not interrupt Bryan
@coledelahooke809
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🤣😂
@alessiogallerano7563
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@ny giants fan raider fan bro the demo part got me hahahah
@jamesmckay9483
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*papers shuffling furiously in the background*
@venom74799
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@ny giants fan raider fan Don’t forget the “ummm”
@deadlymixx
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For real. I can’t stand this mf. If it weren’t for Bryan I wouldn’t listen to this shit lol
This is going to make for one fantastic “dark side of wrestling” episode years from now
@mojo0risin
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Rise and fall of AEW
@ShadyDBZ4
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@@mojo0risin Rise & Takeover of AEW * Fixed it for you. You’re welcome.
@nWoKilluminati
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Idk if punk being a big baby is gonna compare to the stories they’ve done
@ShadyDBZ4
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@@nWoKilluminati “big baby” just whooped Matt Jackson’s ass. 🤣😂🥲
@geeloco1600
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@@ShadyDBZ4 takeover? Wishful thinking
Bryan: says anything Dave: We’ll actually *rambles for minutes on end about literally nothing
@KalelGreece
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I mean, like..
@nicktocco9126
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Dave: No no no no no no no no no, I mean like, look, the thing is, it’s like, so so so so
@greghughes6098
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Ummm ummmm yeah ummmmm
@LukeforcePHD
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Dave interrupts his own sentences to ramble tirelessly.
@jacksonjacob7791
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I totally zone out when Dave rambles on and on. Next thing I know I've just listened to a 20 minute video and can't even really remember if anything of significance was said.
I've heard voices that Steel kicked out of the One Winged Angel backstage.
@philc.5100
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😆 I heard that Lary the dog kicked out of the V trigger
@greyskywarren6028
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Well yeah, cause he probably bit Kenny during the maneuver.
@Robdobalina
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1…2…”hey you mischievous cat!” 💃
@nefilim5800
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Idk about that, bitting and pulling hair is not something you do unless you're getting your ass kicked 😂
@JokersRWildStudios
Жыл бұрын
Randy Orton is All Elite?!
Dear Dave, please let Bryan speak. He speaks clearly and concisely.
@mprice6683
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You don't like the 5 minutes of information Dave takes 30 minutes to explain?
What a wild week Ace Steel has had. from being an unknown employee, cutting the best promo of your life, to biting Kenny Omega and most likely losing your job.
@fluxuation87
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Half the internet complained they didn’t know who he is and now they’ll never forget his name. Dude needs to be in the HOF
@NorrisJonesYT
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If he ends up fired, this is up there with Daniel Bryan getting fired after the nexus debut as a wild week.
@leir2005
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Ace Steele has an AEW contract so it depends on how much time is left on his contract. Remember that Tony Khan doesn’t fire people, he lets their contract run out and then he ghosts them. He has a big, bloated roster because he won’t fire anyone
@MarcGomezPod
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@@leir2005 He fired that goth weirdo that did strictly garbage matches
@WillReacts
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@@NorrisJonesYT if he bit a guy then yea hes fired lmao
Ace Steel bit Kenny Omega, threw chair on Nick Jackson and Punk punched Matt Jackson. Just another 5 star match for Omega and Bucks.
@Eon2137
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Weird they did not put themselves over in this one.
@alokpandey8317
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@@Eon2137 they were being generous
@dceres7443
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lol
@bennett420316
Жыл бұрын
Ace Steel is a porno name, not anyone who should be biting the God of pro wrestling
@shriyut
Жыл бұрын
Good for Punk finally having a 5 star match in AEW
Me and the youngsters will finally know how watching WWF in 97 with Bret and Shawn felt
@CaptainColdyron222
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Without the talent of Bret and Shawn.
@chrisford7909
Жыл бұрын
It was awesome!!! But this has so much more digital media options it's gonna be a trip!!!!!
@heyiamnick4144
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@@CaptainColdyron222 Omega is definitely as talented
@jasonperez1215
Жыл бұрын
Thats a no
@dontlikeidiots377
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@@heyiamnick4144 nope not possible
To be fair, Meltzer prepared Bryan to be a good PATIENT dad that doesn’t explode when his kid interrupts him.
My god it would take Dave 5 months to narrate a Dr. Seuss book.
@fwef7445
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ummmmmmmm
@charliesmith6519
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Epic!
@yoholmes273
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Uh UH Uh Ummmmmmmm
@greghughes6098
Жыл бұрын
So so so I will umm umm not eat them in a box
The thing that stands out to me: If you are truly in a leadership position, it's your job to mitigate items like this, even if you don't want to.
@SkySoFew
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Remember, these are the guys who couldn't even manage a target (which is actually hard. They make 6 figures for a reason)
@Jonathan-om1wq
Жыл бұрын
@@SkySoFew Vince McMahon and Triple H couldn't manage CM Punk either. He's a miserable, spiteful douche.
@erikstorm8935
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@@SkySoFew I think HHH and Steph will have trouble managing WWE, albeit for very different reasons. Im quite sure they'll be tough on their workers. But Im not sure they'll be able to manage a multi-billion dollar company. Luckily, in their case, they have Nick Khan to help.
@chrisainsworth8575
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Hard to manage anything when people are punching you in the face
@dondunn7
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TK sat there looked like a teenager who's dad gave him £100m to run a wrestling hobby
9:06 "No one is disputing that Ace Steel threw a chair and hit Nick" "...in the eye.." 🤣🤣🤣
So far the build is incredible for The Elite vs Punk & FTR for those new trios titles!
@soulreaper6661
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Would hope they would do that as it would be amazing
@ShadyDBZ4
Жыл бұрын
LOL!!! 🤣 It’s not a work.
@GQFJB
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@@ShadyDBZ4 yes it is… ur a special mark if u can’t see it.
@chriskay1449
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AEW marks continue to be delusional. This is not a work no matter how much you try to convince yourself otherwise.
@FilmThePoliceFTP
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@@GQFJB I thought so too because it’s wrestling. I don’t think the young bucks take anything serious enough to do something like this. They don’t know how to be serious, only smarmy little smart asses who want to get their friends paid. I’m not saying punks right if it’s real, but the elite only want to get their fiends paid, not start a serious company.
The line that still gets me is Punk saying right in front of TK "I have a company to run." This is gold if TK can spin this the right way.
@gjcfp36
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He obviously doesn't respect TK to rant like that right next to him but I think he said he has a business to run he was talking about his own brand.
@trentshape
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@@gjcfp36 Exactly, he said business
@DaboRanch
Жыл бұрын
I think it’s a dig at the EVP’s as well. Punk is doing greater business than the Elite and drawing incredible money,meanwhile the EVP’s are playing telephone.
@jeffwolfgang6955
Жыл бұрын
He was discussing the business of CM Punk, and not that of Tony Kahn.
@liandopus9922
Жыл бұрын
He said 'bussiness' not 'company'.. Difference meaning
thanks Dave for taking 5 minutes to explain what a witness is
@theeXodusof730
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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@freddyp319
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😭😭😭😭😭😭
@Radeo
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on the spectrum, can't help it
@ShamrocK1986
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Lol
@yoholmes273
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DAVE is CRINGE
It’s the year 2032 Dark Side of the Ring Ep: All Out Altercation. I’m calling it
@351tgv
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DSOTR: Plane ride from Hell vs DSOTR: Press Conference off the Rails and part 2 Locker Room Train wreck VINCE make it happen.
@Franface31
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I'd name it All Out War.
I can't believe TK didn't stop the scrum and speak to Punk privately. This was really bad look for AEW
@danielstack4158
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That would've been awkward as hell, but maybe he should have done that.
@ozzymetfan
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@@danielstack4158 Less awkward than a fight backstage between his top guys
@bileductable
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I can't believe that TK didn't shut those stupid Colt Cabana rumors down with a simple press release and a meeting between the goofball elite and Punk. Punk kept quiet for months and then let it all out
@Icipher353
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@ny giants fan raider fan In the age of metoo, can you blame him?
@Trustme77
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But Luke, it's not TK's company, it's CM Punk's! Did you not hear Punk say "I'm trying to run a business"? Tony Khan is in no position to tell his boss what to do. (I'm kidding of course, but maybe the company might as well belong to Punk given everything that he's gotten away with.)
Dave would've given the fight 7 stars if Okada had jumped in.
@KennyOmegasCavity
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Yeah!
@cameron3578
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Who wouldn't
@ivanpabon2741
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But it wasn't at the Tokyo dome
@valeriaibarra4049
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Nah, Ospreay
@teflonmongoose4973
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@@ivanpabon2741 it'd be 8 stars then.
Shouldn't Ace, Punk and Larry the Dog be Trios champions now?
@michaelminton8143
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Hell yeah... Better then the watching super kicks and omega shaking all the time
@michaelhuenefeld7611
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Well played, sir.
@user-do2ev2hr7h
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It would be better than the ones we have. I hear Larry's a fighter.
@Kr4ShSkeL
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not larry, the chair !
This is the reason I hate shoot promos. They always end up petty, full of angry people and no money in the long term. Stop feeding the smarks and get on with the program.
Meltzer is really great at saying a lot without saying anything. A real talent to be that incredibly verbose.
@jonathanmays8203
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It's a really special skill
@adiaz973
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Exactly
@outpost206
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I feel like my brain would turn to mush too if I watched as many Kenny Omega and Young Bucks matches as Dave has.
@vladdebrancovan7011
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It is impressive with his limited vocabulary and poor sentence structure.
@drchtct
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Why are you here then
You can't tell me that during this altercation there wasn't at least 15-20 super kicks thrown in addition to the chairs and punches.
@ronniejdio9411
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2 back flips and a finger rake
@erikstorm8935
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Nope. No parties allowed backstage xD.
@ian0143
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I imagine it was more like an early 2010 divas match.
@rubberchix
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Unfunny comment
@mayomonkey-gen1
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Meltzer gave the altercation 8 stars.
Ace Steel didn't miss with his chair shot
Imagine if they had to work in a normal job where most people don't like 99% of the people they work with
@MyChannel-ol1zz
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99%? You should get a new job
@SkySoFew
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@@MyChannel-ol1zz He wouldn't like 99% of the new people.
@shabazzed
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@@DivertingTales punk is far from their best
@rriggs6547
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If you don't like 99% of the people you work with you need a new job. And maybe a good therapist.
@8thaccount535
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@@DivertingTales The Bucks aren't Punk's boss lol, Tony is the only person Punk answers to.
Seeing a neutered TK sit next to Punk as he absolutely murdered the Bucks and Hangman with a live mic was phenomenal. My favorite moment was when he was CLEARLY texting Jericho to get the hell in there, please. Not sure how you ever show your face in that locker room again lmao.
@vrixmorr
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Tk should just leave and rename aew to apw All Punk Wrestling
@vlcthefish
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APW hahahaha
@8thaccount535
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@@vrixmorr Couldn't be worse than AEW already is.
@rleonardgreen78
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Noone respects the mark anyway. They know he's weak and spineless.
You can really see why old school promoters kept loyal shooters on standby in case they needed to get belts off people ASAP. People who have been unprofessional and may not cooperate.
@chriskay1449
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Vince did that to Wendi Richter back in the 1980's when he put Moolah under a mask and had her shoot on Wendi.
@stanjones9643
Жыл бұрын
Mark Henry told the story of someone sh*tting in the Rock's food....is that unprofessional? Stop making out to be bigger than it is. Do you need be reminded of Shawn and Brett feud..."Hairgate"
@apjapki
Жыл бұрын
@@stanjones9643 What are you even trying to say? The cops broke up a fight. The guy went off script to bury someone he wasn't feuding with and the whole thing makes the company look bad. Are you trying to say it wasn't unprofessional?
@marti5420
Жыл бұрын
@@stanjones9643 no dude, this is pretty bad, not only by wrestling standards but also by CM Punk standards. It's one thing for some shit to happen back stage, it's a whole other thing to bury the entire company while talking about elevating everyone around you, claiming other people shit where they eat while shitting where you eat, doing all this Infront of your boss forcing him to seem like he agree with your ramblings, doing so as the world champ, while taking your shit out on the media who keeps you relivant in this modern age of wrestling. This is an actual public shit show
@andrewhucher4748
Жыл бұрын
@@marti5420 exactly. Punk literally buried the whole company. TK should have used the opportunity of Punk losing to Mox to move away from the Punk as champ project. Now either they have to hope he shows up to drop the belt or strip him of the title. I don't know anyone who has ever kept their job after completely shitting on the company, then attacking the higher ups. For someone who is straight edge the dude acts like a drunk teenager at a house party.
This will make Meltz think twice about skipping the next scrum.
@puipui7382
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Wasn't he there?
@jonpower9728
Жыл бұрын
@@puipui7382 yeah, but him and Alvarez said they were debating whether to go or not.
@dngn4774
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@@jonpower9728 tbh all of the others were actually more embarrassing than a fight. It’d be half a dozen “journalists” lobbing softballs and gushing over how much they love the product. That’d be like if a political commentator told the incumbent they were interviewing that they always vote for them. Just cringe.
@chriskay1449
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AS he explained, he would have seen it even if he was not there because he would watch it online.
@jonpower9728
Жыл бұрын
@@dngn4774 Which is also what you get in WWE media scrums. Moral if the story? Skip scrums.
Every time Bryan listens to Dave, I think about that moment from The Simpsons where Homer imagines rolling Grandpa in a wheelbarrow to the nuthouse.
@evanmince526
Жыл бұрын
Or when Homer listens to Flanders describing the difference between apple cider and apple juice
No. That is not how it started. Punk was fishing for somebody to say Colt Cabana. He went to 1 journalist he knew had a relationship with Cabana. And set him up. Punk asked the guy, "You still freestyle?". Or some nonsense. The Jounalist said, "Not in a long time". Punk then followed up with, "Who did you used to do that with?". The Journalist said, "Colt Cabana". Then Punk said, "Is he your friend?" ... and then Punk used that as a way to bring up the whole Colt bashing. So Punk had it planned from the start. Planned because of a shoot? Or planned because he now had a forum to get it off of his chest once and for all.
@rl318
Жыл бұрын
Many people like Punk, and he makes his living talking, but anyone who has been around real people in the real world can see how fugazi he is at times. He name-dropped Kingston in this rant again, mentioned Eric Bischoff for some reason, and dragged Adam Cole's name in it, trying to sound optimistic about him but knowing who he is friends with.
@ShinSuperSaiyajin
Жыл бұрын
Yes. This is how it happened during the scrum. Punk I think found an opening to shoot on Colt
@geeloco1600
Жыл бұрын
@@rl318 who cares it’s for our entertainment, you guys are super weird taking this way to serious who cares
@kamikoto1558
Жыл бұрын
Stop
@rl318
Жыл бұрын
Well, if it is real and negatively affects their business, I hope the people that like this sort of thing are very entertained. If this costs them in the long run, I hope the people cheering it on don't start crying and making up conspiracy theories about what went wrong.
For all of Vince McMahon's shortcomings, and I would be the first to point most of them out, he did have an understanding about having to have some control over the locker room, because it is the wild west and this is what happens when the promoter is more concerned about being everybody's friend. Tony better get a handle on this in a hurry because this is becoming a widespread issue for AEW.
@Kingofthekop1
Жыл бұрын
The WWE talent feared Vince, they don’t fear Tony at all.
@Nostalgia9478
Жыл бұрын
Nailz choked Vince, and Bret knocked him out.. Great "control" of the locker room there. lol
@ronarnold1507
Жыл бұрын
80s Vince actually *wanted* the guys to be at each other's throats in the locker room, because it was his main strategy to keep them from forming a union like Jesse Venture wanted to do. Hogan was his main shit-stirrer / snitch, and that's how Hogan became the master politician that he did.
@ronniejdio9411
Жыл бұрын
Enough with the revisinist history. Vince himself was in numerous fights. Jesus christ when he wasn't he was covering up rapes and murders.
@gjcfp36
Жыл бұрын
Vince was notorious for buddying up to the wrestlers and he let the clique run roughshod over him in the 90s. He only became a hardass in the 2000s when there was no competition for them to go to and he got too old to want to hang with the boys anymore. TK looked awful at the presser and lacks experience but he'd handled in-house issues fine until now. Even Vince could only handle Punk for so long.
“ Long Day “ - Meltzer 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Listen to these two, they poured the gasoline and are just wondering out loud why there's a fire.
No matter who's "side" you are on all eyes are on TK, especially by those in the locker room. If he does nothing he loses respect and loyalty from his workers. Both respect and loyalty were in question before this, that is likely now more than in question than previously.
@john_WayneRidesAgain
Жыл бұрын
Amen. Rather what comes out. Tony fostered the environment, rather he believes it or not. He let multiple people walk all over him, including punk now. Hes gotta doing something to show HE runs the show. If he holds back for ratings, or buy rates, or whatever BS...than hes no better than bishoff
@DisasterMaggot
Жыл бұрын
@@john_WayneRidesAgain before this happened, I watched an alpha chimp fail at leadership and he was overthrown by a challenger, the alpha submitted like a coward. Not too different from this, the chimps threw hands too.
@Orpheusftw
Жыл бұрын
He looked like an absolutely spineless simp.
@ShinSuperSaiyajin
Жыл бұрын
Exactly. If TK do not do something about this, the roster will definitely lose respect for him
@bls8959
Жыл бұрын
Maybe the network will have to step in
How many stars did Dave give the altercation?
@RyanGRyan1985
Жыл бұрын
0 because his little buckeroos and twinkle toes got their ass's handed to them
@cruzcorp914
Жыл бұрын
Probably 10
@AndyLifeInVideo
Жыл бұрын
3 1/4 because it wasn't in the Tokyo Dome.
@glynnb6572
Жыл бұрын
He gave it 1 because punk punched one of the wimps to no comeback! And omega got it given to him as well. Imagine storming into a room mob handed and everyone finding out you didn't lay ONE FINGER on anyone.
@markrobinson9394
Жыл бұрын
He would have given it 50 stars if Omega and the Bucks had come out on top. Extra stars for any Superkicks landed.
It's nice to know that steel chairs were actually used in a backstage shoot fight. I wish someday ladders and tables will be used too.
@wwewrestlingbd8151
Жыл бұрын
আরে দাদা।বাঙালী!
So if they fire Ace Steel, Punk probably quits. The EVPs already threatened to walk so imagine what would happen if they get punished in some way. But then Eddie Kingston got suspended for way less! How do you punish him but not these top-tier guys?? What. A. Mess.
@lamelama22
Жыл бұрын
So punish everybody? and let the police figure the rest out re: charges. The EVPs already pushed out Cody with the same tactics, but unlike Cody, Punk won’t take it, certainly not quietly, and can’t go back (probably) to WWE.
@rriggs6547
Жыл бұрын
@@lamelama22 Cody has stated very clearly and often that he has no issue with Kenny and the Bucks. They are still friends and on good terms. We don't know what the issue was, but it was with TK. As for the problems with Punk, there are multiple reports that young and low card talent can't stand Punk and that he treats them like dirt. I wasn't there so I don't know what all the facets of the issues are. It is every bit as likely that Page was standing up for the locker room and/or the EVPs were trying to be locker room leaders and deal with a wrestler who has become an issue. Or they could just not like him. We don't know and all of the he said/she said won't figure it out. What I do know is that many people have claimed Punk acted like a jerk in ROH. We all saw the issues Punk was involved with in WWE. If the same thing keeps happening to one person over and over again then the overwhelming likelihood is that they are the issue.
@xavierrhcp13
Жыл бұрын
@@rriggs6547 Cody is very political, he's not gonna say much. The Bucks and Omega are 100% a problem in that company. Punk is just the guy who didnt take their shit or was afraid of getting fired.
@billywashere6965
Жыл бұрын
@@lamelama22 Punk pushed Cody out. Rewatch the interview he did with Rasslin' where he pointd out the problems with the new guys coming in (i.e., Punk). He called it "tumultuous". Punk got rid of Cody, not the Bucks.
@rriggs6547
Жыл бұрын
@@xavierrhcp13 And see, if Omega and the Bucks had a history of doing this in the several other companies they have worked for (where there is no history of this) then I would absolutely be looking at them first. Instead, we have Punk who has been known for being at the center of similar issues in multiple other promotions. I don't know what really happened, but the patterns suggest the root of the problem is most likely Punk. But that doesn't mean it definitely is or that I am not willing to change my mind given evidence. To this point there isn't enough evidence to make a definitive statement. There is enough evidence to show where people should start looking.
Tbh Punk seems like the kind of guy who gets emotionally self-righteously ragey, and becomes totally impossible to deal with short of just accommodating whatever he wants/feels Not exactly someone great to work with...
@dangerousdays2052
Жыл бұрын
CM Karen is universally hated in the wrestling business. This is nothing new.
@coreyk1501
Жыл бұрын
@@dangerousdays2052 maybe the Bucks shouldn't start something they can't finish.
@Trustme77
Жыл бұрын
There are a lot of stories. I was a fan of Punk years ago as far back as when he cashed in MITB on Jeff Hardy, and later on I loved how he called out WWE's shortcomings both in-character as part of his program with Cena, and a few years later when he was shooting on Colt Cabana's "Art Of Wrestling" podcast. I don't believe he was making up everything he said about WWE and I think there are a lot of pricks in that company (particularly the guy who recently stepped down), but I've got to remember that some of the guys who justifiably criticize WWE aren't always good people themselves. Anyway, I think it's entirely possible that Punk actually had nothing to do with Colt being moved to ROH...but it's also possible that he did, or maybe there's a third scenario like TK thinking "Uh oh, do I want to risk having these two guys who hate each other in the same locker room? Better keep them separated." (If that was what happened, then that would mean TK ended up preventing drama and possible fistfights between Punk and Colt, but created a situation where now Hangman had a problem with Punk that was perhaps even worse since it interfered with their program.) In any case, Punk didn't make the rumor about him being the reason Colt's no longer in AEW any LESS plausible. Dude says he doesn't care about his old friend while bringing Colt up completely unprompted and going on and on about him instead of, y'know, how he just won the title or something. I think maybe that would've been more relevant, but what do I know?
@RoryMonaghan
Жыл бұрын
@@coreyk1501 did Punk finish it? It doesn’t sound like it. Who is the Ken guy. What kind of man bites someone?
@calebcollins5625
Жыл бұрын
Idk. I'm starting to hear thats its really the bucks and egas camp who does this But who knows anymore with this company lol
Tony is totally not going to punish Punk. Given all the shit he pulled recently, he knows he has Tony by the balls. Steel will be the fall guy, and I doubt anything else will come of it.
@HellShoot
Жыл бұрын
If Steel falls, Punk is out
@yv2521
Жыл бұрын
If Punk is who he say he is. He will quit on the deserving so dismissal of Ace.
@protolegacy9184
Жыл бұрын
I think you are right.Punk is one of the few that bring in any sort of numbers and he paid him big money.He might keep him off TV for a week but thats about it.Punk will quit over all of this before he gets fired.I wonder if it came down to it who would Tony keep,Punk or the Bucks,Page and Omega? Punk is awefully popular but is getting up there and will get another injury.Money talks in the end.Oh yea.Scrooge McDuck is awesome.
@jedsithor
Жыл бұрын
If he punishes Punk he has to punish the Bucks and Kenny too. Nobody is blameless in this situation. Punk is a ratings driver and the Bucks and Kenny are EVPs so Tony is going to have to find a way to sort it out. I don't envy his position though he is partly to blame because he should have addressed the Cabana rumours as soon as they started to spread but he didn't.
@jonuiuc
Жыл бұрын
Lol fire the Elite, then you can stop paying exec salaries and clamp down on people using rumors as personal pr outlets.
Dave pretending he doesn’t have a cozy relationship with the bucks is laughable
@Mecha82
Жыл бұрын
You must be comfortable with that tin hat on.
@kingdingaling413
Жыл бұрын
@@Mecha82 😂 really? 39 people in 1 hour apparently agree with me that it’s obvious Dave simps hard for the young cucks
Dave always concised with a straight line of thought that is clear and pleasent to follow.
@IntolerantZen
Жыл бұрын
i hope this is sarcasm .....
@alessiogallerano7563
Жыл бұрын
@@IntolerantZen oh yeah it is!
@Youtuube304s
Жыл бұрын
😆
@kcatarino
Жыл бұрын
The greatest orator of our time
@daveeol1987
Жыл бұрын
But...you know....but.....you know....
“Cm PunK punched Matt Jackson multiple times” - Dave Meltzer
@abtei_im_eichwald
Жыл бұрын
i love a good wrestling drama
@_.El._
Жыл бұрын
The one time I hope Meltzer is accurate 🙏
@alokpandey8317
Жыл бұрын
@@_.El._ 🤣🤣
@JoeMastronardo
Жыл бұрын
GOOD !
@blackjack23able
Жыл бұрын
Matt's the one with the really goofy snarky face too😁
The Scrum Is more must see than Rampage
@dngn4774
Жыл бұрын
Paint drying is more must see than Rampage.
Just wanna say thanks for all of the free content
This is so dam fantastic hope they talk about this Wednesday. They better go all the way. With this.
Dave, there are a lot of us that come here mostly for Bryan, don't interrupt
@dessertstorm7476
Жыл бұрын
By now you should know, Dave is and always will be Dave.
@vrixmorr
Жыл бұрын
How can he keep quiet? He's at the centre of all this
@diegoallendesreyes4237
Жыл бұрын
@@vrixmorr Bryan got More inside in this matter
@RolfeSenpai
Жыл бұрын
Bro, Bryan has like 4 other shows/podcasts that he hosts. WOR has always been primarily about hearing Dave talk about the news, with Bryan as his second.
@diegoallendesreyes4237
Жыл бұрын
@@RolfeSenpai that doesn't justify the interruptions Every time Bryan talks
Punk Has had issues with people in CZW, ROH, ECW, WWE, UFC and now AEW. Maybe JUST MAYBE he's the problem
@wilcee238
Жыл бұрын
Cody left AEW, and Jim Cornette refused to work there. Maybe they’re the problem.
@tommccarron4517
Жыл бұрын
@@wilcee238 blaming Jim Cornette is bold. Maybe it's Paul Pogba's fault?
@pjmathison9787
Жыл бұрын
@@tommccarron4517 it’s Jeremy corbyns fault
@85futureshock
Жыл бұрын
Maybe its not Snitsky’s fault
@tommccarron4517
Жыл бұрын
@@pjmathison9787 Daily Mail agrees!
Thanks Dave and Bryan for not doing your job and reporting this earlier
The shoot interviews 5 years from now will be great.
Omg can Dave just stop interrupting Bryan and STOP trying to make everything single point about how he was involved in some capacity 🙄🙄🙄🙄
@heftyhugh9086
Жыл бұрын
That's how Uncle Dave rolls
Punk just seems like a hard guy to be around.
@mediumchungus
Жыл бұрын
Dude was begging for trouble in that scrum. Thats not something normal people do, as all the other scrums show. Dude needs therapy or something
@8thaccount535
Жыл бұрын
Cody literally left the company to get away from the Bucks lol
@jmthehologram
Жыл бұрын
But he's money. It's like Shawn and Bret in one person
How do we know who hit whom ? What is the source ?
the problem for AEW going forward aswell is if they don't script the promos then people will keep bringing it up and it will keep going round and round. imagine Will Osprey doing a promo on Omega when they do their program and he starts going on how he was made to look a fool by Punk or got beat up by Ace.
Tony needs to sit everyone involved down to make sure they understand that everything about this has to end now AND that everyone has to serve a suspension without pay of however many weeks, AT LEAST. It doesn't fucking matter who started it, who's wrong and who's right. Everyone there played some part, and there needs to be consequences for that for the good of the entire locker room. If Punk then throws a fit and walks over being suspended, or over Steel being suspended or fired then fine, so be it. And if the Bucks or Hangman want to walk because of Punk still being around after this and pushed as a main event guy, then fine, so be it.
@rriggs6547
Жыл бұрын
I see where you are coming from and I do think suspensions are in order. I don't know everything that happened or that led up to what happened. But if the reports are true that Punk has treated most of the talent like crap then the best option is to fire Punk. And still suspend everyone else because the manner things have occurred is still not acceptable. But I honestly think if Punk walks that is the end of the issue. If Omega and the Bucks walk, then a good portion of the locker room follows including Jericho, Daniels, and several high ranking people behind the scenes.
@koashjames
Жыл бұрын
@@rriggs6547 I 100% concur! But yeah, suspensions for everyone needs to happen for the sake of building a better locker room, and working environment... And, hopefully all parties can accept that.
@TheDegenerate666
Жыл бұрын
@@rriggs6547 Reports from who?
@rriggs6547
Жыл бұрын
@@TheDegenerate666 Several wrestling media outlets. I don't know the sources. It could be friends of the Bucks. It just as easily could be anyone else in the locker room.
@TheDegenerate666
Жыл бұрын
@@rriggs6547 So you're telling on diet sheets? As it stands right now it sounds like the YBs and Omega went to Punk's locker room, and started more shit which put Steel's wife, who had a broken foot, in danger. That being said, that's from a dirt sheet so I take it with a grain of salt. This is what I do know there are multiple wrestlers that have come out and said CM Punk is a great asset to AEW. As much as I love The Elite, the only ones who say that about them are their buddies and themselves.
Fights have happened in WWE sure, but a guy going off on other top stars like Punk did at that press conference definitely wouldnt have.
@gilbertoarellano8525
Жыл бұрын
Well yea, WWE doesn’t have post match press conferences.
@timothycrosby4251
Жыл бұрын
To be fair no one would have done what the Bucks and Hangman did.
@traceonlock
Жыл бұрын
Rollins and Riddle have real life heat and were professional enough to do a whole match, explains the maturity levels between between talent.
@cjtuckerbpmc
Жыл бұрын
You have a loose definition of top star
@unforgabriel
Жыл бұрын
Yeah vince would've had everybody involved wearing dresses on TV the next week
The reverberations of Punk walking out on WWE and telling all on Cabana's podcast are still incredible after nearly 8 years later.
Thanks Dave, I listened to the entire 30 minute video and have no clue what was actually said.
Ace steel bites Kenny’s hair. *Background Music: You think you’re special..
Phil Brooks is the softest man in existence! That dude has the thinnest skin in all of human history.
No one should get fired. For better or worse. This is the most interesting AEW has been a while. .. hope all parties are ok.
Cannot wait for next week BTE
The inmates are running the asylum and Kevin Nash is nowhere to be seen.
Everyone saw this coming. Hell, Stevie Wonder saw this coming
@BainesMkII
Жыл бұрын
Everyone except Dave and Tony Khan. Though if you give Dave enough time after the fact, he'll eventually change his account to claim that he either predicted it or knew about it in advance...
Dave and Bryan don’t always agree and topics and opinions but that’s what makes things better!
TK is awesome and all, but he needs to start being an actual boss and clamp down on this drama. Even if it means reprimands, nip these egos and control your roster!
@shriyut
Жыл бұрын
Man it's unfortunate that he seemed quite spineless in that moment. It was sad to see as someone who believed in his wrestling vision.
@bennett420316
Жыл бұрын
@@shriyut Well to be fair he was high on coke when it happened 🤷
@shriyut
Жыл бұрын
@@bennett420316 way to drag down all the hype I had for all out in one press conference
@bennett420316
Жыл бұрын
@@shriyut If anything it should increase the hype ❄️
I find it a bit strange that all the talent according to these two were told not to talk to anyone because of legal issues, yet these guys seem to know from multiple sources EXACTLY what happened.
@billywashere6965
Жыл бұрын
Security guards and staff aren't talent.
Maybe if TK had addressed this three weeks ago in that “Talent meeting” this would have been avoided. He isn’t waiting to get facts he is scared to be a legit boss. He’s had months to quell this and he’s avoided it
@Funkmonkv1
Жыл бұрын
Tony is a people pleaser & a push over, Punk knows that which is why he felt he was able to say those things because Tony isn’t a Vince McMahon no one is scared to speak there minds around Tony like they would with a Vince McMahon.
@kurtwetzel154
Жыл бұрын
CM Punk may get fired soon if he doesn't shape up.
@vrixmorr
Жыл бұрын
@@Funkmonkv1 tbh Punk would have done and has actually done same with Vince McMahon.
@ronniejdio9411
Жыл бұрын
He's never reigned in the evps. Ever.
@13JacksonMr
Жыл бұрын
Oh now y'all are realizing it. There have been people saying this for a couple of years now.
While they weren't in the same room, this reminds me of the Austin/Vince segment on Byte This all those years ago.
I didn't think it was a work until Brian said it's 100% not a work
Eddie Kingston warned everyone about Punk many times during their feud. He's always been a locker room cancer.
@phillipbrown2318
Жыл бұрын
This is very truth he has always been a trouble maker.
@herringstheseries
Жыл бұрын
Wait… Isn’t Kingston the same guy who just got back from a suspension for putting his hands on Sammy Guevara?
@hevykevy316
Жыл бұрын
@@herringstheseries in Eddie's defence, he held up his hands and acknowledged he was in the wrong, and took it on the chin. All the while taking indie bookings and donating his fee from one of them to charity.
@phillipbrown2318
Жыл бұрын
@@herringstheseries Eddie Kingston didn't even touch him and he got suspended so you gonna to let this Slide because he Cm Punk.
@billywashere6965
Жыл бұрын
Triple H, and Hangman, too. Everybody keeps ignoring the warning signs.
Tony Kahn was probably holding on to Omega’s ankle like Jeff Van Grundy did when Alonzo Mourning and Larry Johnson fought 😂😂😂
@e1028
Жыл бұрын
Solid reference, boy did the Knicks and Heat really hate each other back then 🤣
@DukeBlueDevilFan08
Жыл бұрын
@@e1028 I’m glad someone understood the reference
This would be so interesting if either of these guys could finish a thought
Punk drops the title this Wednesday and MJF runs the show until all the Elite and Punk suspensions are done with. There's no other way.
@bb-gc2tx
Жыл бұрын
lmao ok smark
@normaningemann3868
Жыл бұрын
Why did he win the belt back on Sunday with all this drama in the locker room? That's why people think it's a work! If it isn't 😳😳😳!
fragile ego, fragile body, weak mind and weak spirit....on point
@wilcee238
Жыл бұрын
That “fragile body” was giving the Young Cucks a thrashing.. By the way John Wayne’s real name is Marion you mark. Moving on.
The whole point of this is that everything is completely taken away from the MJF angle, which should be the buzz right now. Everyone is now focused on this, which is complete bullshit; and Punk took it upon himself to go into detail about it all. He talks about everyone being unprofessional, yet in the same light he could’ve completely avoided all of this and talked about the PPV and the actual storylines.
@timothyhurley5920
Жыл бұрын
Which is ironic considering MJF's backstage actions took away from the last PPV!
@dbr881
Жыл бұрын
@@timothyhurley5920 He didn’t come out and have a presser about everything lol, and he still came out and had the match and did what he was supposed to do. A report is different from having an actual press conference and airing everything out. This was a public interview that completely takes the focus away from the main storyline. Different situations bud.
@awakenedtarot7306
Жыл бұрын
I guess MJF knows what it feels like now after what all his drama did to Wardlow's push.
@dbr881
Жыл бұрын
@@awakenedtarot7306 read my last comment; different situations…MJF didn’t interview publicly, it was a “report”
@jaybee4288
Жыл бұрын
He was outright asked a question by a journalist. He didn’t want to have to be talking about it. He’s the last person to blame, it’s the guys you wrestling observer idiots fantasise over that caused all this. Bucks don’t belong in the wrestling industry. And I’m not sure omega does either. And hangman needs to grow up and stop being such a baby.
At least there's content for a new Dark Side of the Ring episode now
Love it !
God it takes dave an hour to spit out a single sentence
@LyonHaus
Жыл бұрын
That’s why I watch at 2x ^_^
They should suspend all parties in the short term pending an extensive inquiry, hopefully cooler heads can reconcile and prevail, with actions being taken accordingly. If not, you are dealing with unprofessional children who need to check their egos. A long term solution needs to be met that accurately reflects the incident that took place, with any misstep potentially souring workplace culture and trust for all.
@miguelsi7543
Жыл бұрын
^precisely^
@bileductable
Жыл бұрын
Bro get that human resources crap out of here. Just turn it into a storyline and agree to work stiff lmao
@ShinSuperSaiyajin
Жыл бұрын
@@bileductable LOLOLOL To make everyone happy: suspend them for a month THEN turn their beef into a wrestling angle
@bileductable
Жыл бұрын
@@ShinSuperSaiyajin Ok deal 🤝
@ShinSuperSaiyajin
Жыл бұрын
@@bileductable if Edge and Matt Hardy pulled it off back in the day, why can’t Punk and the Elite. I mean look at Edge and Matt Hardy now. They’re very cool with each other.
Pre-PPV: Let's get Ace Steel on TV each week. Post-PPV: Ace Steel is never getting on TV again.
Can't wait for the "Colt Cabana" chants next time Punk is on tv.
@ronniejdio9411
Жыл бұрын
All of colts 3 fans
@greghughes6098
Жыл бұрын
If that happens, I'll eat a bowl of shit
.i really hope this all gets resolved
@thomass789
Жыл бұрын
Oh, it's getting resolved, alright.
@geeloco1600
Жыл бұрын
Nah drama is good for business has everyone talking
@Jim-so3to
Жыл бұрын
I genuinely want it to keep imploding until Tony Khan realises he can't book this mess of a company on his own.
@Jim-so3to
Жыл бұрын
@The Baddestman I think wwe would employ them but only as a statement, it wouldn't be a long contract as neither of them fit their style. The bucks are absolute trash.
@carlosr6462
Жыл бұрын
@The Baddestman why would the WWE signed them? maybe they will for a developmental contract so they can finally learn the fundamentals of pro wrestling
I love AEW, but this is extremely embarrassing. These are grown men fighting like children. What a terrible look for the company
@dogsbreakfast4952
Жыл бұрын
😂 it’s good for business look at the hype they generated
@vrixmorr
Жыл бұрын
What are you 8? This is pro-wrestling at its finest
@jakeyflakes00
Жыл бұрын
@@dogsbreakfast4952 I hope you’re right and I’m just ignorant to all of it.
@jakeyflakes00
Жыл бұрын
@@vrixmorr Yeah, it’s pro wrestling so people can just bite and throw chairs at each other and air grievances in the most unhealthy way. As much as you may not like to hear it, in any business there needs to be a sense of order. The only order in AEW is the dark order and even they are hardly there anymore. I don’t give a shit if it was war dude, doesn’t change the fact it is a B A D L O O K.
@vrixmorr
Жыл бұрын
@@jakeyflakes00 dude it's not your business to care about the working of AEW. Are you employed by them? If not, then shut up and enjoy this once in a lifetime program unfolding before your eyes
I just cannot fathom there being no suspensions after this. If Tony Khan cannot be the responsible owner he needs to be and punish those who need to be punished, I’ll be honest it will feel like the beginning of the end of AEW. You cannot have an owner who gets stepped over like this and just expect everyone to be happy in that company.
@mj_dj
Жыл бұрын
If Kingston was suspended for two weeks for pie-facing Sammy, Punk should face the same consequences for actually throwing punches, if that's what he did.
@dashingdreww1185
Жыл бұрын
Can’t suspend your newly crowned World champ and can’t suspend your brand new trios champs , so prob Ace is gonna do the job lol
@maklame6590
Жыл бұрын
Vince never punished brock after his scandals. Tony will weight how much public perception will be on his side if he doesnt do anything
@shamrock73
Жыл бұрын
@@dashingdreww1185 No one will respect Tk if he does that.
@joeshmo4892
Жыл бұрын
Any 'EVP' who leaks info to the bloody media should be fired instantly that's just pathetic.
This is getting crazier than WCW 2000
The guy who wanted to attack Shawn. I think it was Louie Spicolli.
@stevey1000able
Жыл бұрын
Chris Candido
@TheBC313
Жыл бұрын
@@stevey1000able The reason I think Spicolli is I heard him and Dave were friends cuz they knew each other both living out in Cali. Also there was an incident between Shawn and Louie in 95 which Louie said Shawn eventually apologized for. I could be wrong. But that's why I guessed Louie.
Cm stands for Chaotic media-scrum Cocky Mfer Cenny mega Chicago muffins Cucamonga matt-jackson Chris moxley can't manage (a target) Colt mañana
@jackras6139
Жыл бұрын
None of these are good
Who gave you guys this update? Matt or Nick?
I told you; they shouldn't have taken the belt off mox with all this going on, now if they ended up needing to strip punk and having to find a sudden new champion, then it will be a sudden bigger mess.
@samismith8752
Жыл бұрын
Finally Peter Avalon shall have his time in the sun!
@jaybee4288
Жыл бұрын
No way, wingmen need to be going after those trios titles, he’s not gonna let his boys down.
@holo0667
Жыл бұрын
@@jaybee4288 put all the belts on the wingmen (lowkey I'm sure that JD Drake could be a goodTNT champion if given the opportunity)
@blaze5645
Жыл бұрын
Three little letters: MJF.
@mprice6683
Жыл бұрын
CM Punk should lose the belt to Fuego Del Sol next week.
I like CM punk more and more.
@billywashere6965
Жыл бұрын
Because he's destroying the company paying him $5 mil?
There is a clear and distinct through line connecting Punks arrival to the backstage drama. That is not a coincidence.
Total work
Solomonster brought up a good point: Eddie Kingston was just suspended not long ago for doing something much less than what Punk and the EVPs did. So TK is in a difficult situation of what he needs to do without showing the rest of his roster that he isn’t being biased but also he doesn’t want to upset Punk.
@Jonathan-om1wq
Жыл бұрын
EVPs didn't do anything wrong. Punk needs to be suspended and Ace Steel needs to get fired
@SSJFutureGohan62093
Жыл бұрын
Well…. They could have just avoided the issue with having to suspend the champion if they would have just left the belt on Mox….
@billywashere6965
Жыл бұрын
What did the EVPs do? They weren't the ones publicly burying the talent, the company, and the president of the company, to the media.
My favorite wrestling podcast period
@tomalex4806
Жыл бұрын
You need to look for more decent podcasts
@fwef7445
Жыл бұрын
rather listen to corny, he can string a sentence together without saying 'ummmm'
@tomalex4806
Жыл бұрын
@@fwef7445 or "aaaannd"
Well, if nothing else, all this drama and fighting in AEW is certainly a “throwback” to the “old days”…I guess there is something to say for that.
@albundy7459
Жыл бұрын
No one publicly outed anyone in the old days.
@TheAc550
Жыл бұрын
Taker: Nah, we had more knives & guns back then.
@OscillatorCollective
Жыл бұрын
All there need’s to be now is someone needs to attach someone else with a pair of scissors, and someone else starting bar fights and beating up cops… Be just like old times…
Brian’s wrong about the timeline. The Eddie Kingston feud was months before the Hangman promo with completely different context.
This is an awesome piece of business
Love AEW, love their product. If Punk (and probably the Elite, depending on how much they swung back,) doesn't have their titles stripped, coming after Eddie's suspension at the very least, it'll only be downhill for the company from here.
@ZaggaZye
Жыл бұрын
How about having a trios title match - FTR + Punk vs the Elite. This is a real wrestling company, so best way to go about this is to have them fight in ring with something heavy on the line. If Elite wins, then Omega gets a title shot, who knows, from here you could do a triple threat with MJF and have him win clean (no interference) as punishment to both Kenny and Punk.
@ZaggaZye
Жыл бұрын
@@AbrahamLeanin The phrase is missing words, "its all rolling or crashing down hill" but its funny how these are worded. However, the phrase means when u climb a "hill" its progress and u get to the "top of the hill" which is the ultimate goal, if you should go "down hill" you are going backwards, losing all that progression and eventually ending up at the "bottom of the hill". Hope this helps xd.
@TheHardys01
Жыл бұрын
"Your Opinions Suck!" -MJF
@bobsucks9647
Жыл бұрын
You can’t punish someone if they were just defending themselves though. Swinging back isn’t the issue starting the fight is. So whoever actually started it needs to be punished.
@michaelfarrow5817
Жыл бұрын
@@bobsucks9647 the story is clearly that Bucks came in all "say it to our faces", it escalated and Punk threw the first punch. Then it escalated further and Ace Steele tried to clear the Elite out of the room by acting like a mental (a common barroom brawl trick). Now, none of it is justifiable but none of it is surprising. CM Punk is a textbook narcissist. He's very selectively unpleasant to people, often those who are warm, kind and "weak". He wouldn't call out somebody or fuck with somebody who'd throw down. It's easy. Shitcan CM Punk.
Tony Khan has got to lay down some heavy, significant punishment for those involved in this altercation. Putting your hands on someone should be a fireable offense. At some point, TK is going to have to stop playing nice guy and peace maker, and start laying down the law within his company. Whoever is the troublemaker needs to be let go. I don't care how much money and views they generate. He will lose that locker room and their respect if he doesn't grow a spine and get control of his company.
@jeremiahclaussen3000
Жыл бұрын
He just needs to fire thos limp wristed fairies young bucks.
One of the crazy week of the year
when did wwf executives fight?