Even if its true, just because two guys don't like each other doesn't mean the whole company is in disarray. Good lord this has been blown out of proportion.

@silverdarlin

Жыл бұрын

The WWF in 1997 had two guys (Bret and Shawn) who hated each others guts. The company also had one of it's most influential years, despite the backstage war between them

@ManiacFitness

Жыл бұрын

What's the big deal? There's guys at alot of companies all the time that don't like each other and they still get up and go to work everyday without drama!

@greyfox4838

Жыл бұрын

no one actually thinks that, it's just the Cornette fans and Punk haters coming out of the woodworks, I believe Dave is being worked, but even if he wasn't and this beef is real, so what? people can hate each other, it's a fact of life

@apjapki

Жыл бұрын

I think the locker room doesn't like their top star. It just means they have an issue with the top star. Does he get what he wants or do the mid card talent get fed up?

@giancarlocrumps7564

Жыл бұрын

CM punk wasn't going to show up and he went into business for himself With HHH on the scene yeah this is a big deal

Hogan didn’t want to work with Bret. Austin didn’t want to work with Mero. Bret and HBK hated each other. Austin dropped the belt to Mick as he didn’t want to lose it to Triple H who won it a day later. These things happen.

@altergeist5581

Жыл бұрын

exactly. Its normal to have differences anywhere, but since its AEW and many people wanna see it fail, they are making it look like it is the biggest thing ever.

@michaelrivera8360

Жыл бұрын

I think people are making a big deal out of this because this sorta things kills momentunm for companies just look at WCW which Meltzer made the comparison too and he said Tony has to be careful

@UFCWWE69

Жыл бұрын

The issue is that AEW prided itself as the company where shit like that didn’t happen though. It’s just showing the grass isn’t always greener on the other side

@mervstash3692

Жыл бұрын

They all drew though.

@KennyOmegasCavity

Жыл бұрын

@@mervstash3692 not Bret and HBK. That was the time when WWF lost money.

Dave never fails to amaze me with his ability to go off topic

@RyanDMoore

Жыл бұрын

"Well, I mean, ya know, I-I-it's, I mean, well, yeah, like"

@damiengasparini2976

Жыл бұрын

It’s fkn painful listening to him

@IamSickCase

Жыл бұрын

@@damiengasparini2976 yet you listened to the whole thing.

@PowerNGlory

Жыл бұрын

It's because he is spinning gears in his head to think of what to say to make the whole AEW backstage stuff sound like something minor. He can't accept that AEW is in deep crap right now and his boots are not high enough to get out of it.

@DragonLinkIsOverrated

Жыл бұрын

Don't play the drinking game when he says "you know"

the irony of CM Punk, a noted Bret Hart guy, pulling moves like HBK circa 1997 is delicious

@PhantomFTW.

Жыл бұрын

How long till Punk "loses his smile"?

@michaelrivera8360

Жыл бұрын

Punk being a hipocrite no he never defended his UFC salary when the other guys where complaning but he complained about part timer pays in WWE noooo never....

@user-uy3yn7dv3v

Жыл бұрын

Bret Hart refused to job to HBK because he felt disrespected by him It's actually very similar

@Khader1093

Жыл бұрын

what punk is saying and doing is compelling television if you can't see it . then it not worth commenting about it. wrestling has never been holding hands and singing kumbaya everyone from the 80s till now had issues with each other which gives compelling television. not some fake shit sports entertainment.

@shredenvain7

Жыл бұрын

Punk is being everything you have always heard negative about him just out of nowhere huh? Over a hangman promo that happened 4 months ago. How petty huh? Funny during the 1st summer of punk in ROH he turned the fans on him by signing with WWE and spent the rest of his time there shitting on ROH. To bad it backfired and brought ROH alot of Fan attention and great content. Then he dropped that pipe and talked about people from the indies and ROH in glowing terms while shitting on WWE this time using it to go face and have a 2nd summer of punk. But this Aew thing is a real shoot. He has been home stewing in his ego and anger all because of a promo from hangman. In fact he was so angry when he had his surprise return he couldnt express his giant hate filled anger. He had to wait a week. This is the beginning of the 3rd summer of punk. What a coincidence hangman has been hanging in limbo while punk has been gone. Now Punk cuts a shoot promo on hangman and the company and all the top talent are hanging on by a thread.

Tony reorganizing his backstage roles was probably something that should have existed when Cody left. Hopefully this get worked out.

@michaelfarrow5817

Жыл бұрын

I do wonder how much of what we didn't hear about what Cody smoothing stuff over behind the scenes.

@Krispen_Wah

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelfarrow5817 Cody probably wanted more Cody.

@941zeke

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelfarrow5817 cody had a creative vision and tony wanted to go away from that. And cody felt he should of been paid more than what he was getting paid.

@ronniejdio9411

Жыл бұрын

@@941zeke as much as I love Cody and his family Nothing that mfer did in his last 18 months in aew proved he deserved top money. If anything it proven he had too much power

@michaelfarrow5817

Жыл бұрын

As vice-chairman and director of football operations of Fulham, Tony has a a full-time, 100-hour-per-week, no-life-whatsoever position on its own. Essentially, he's an NBA/NFL GM except it's a longer season, you can't EVER tank a season and you don't just scout colleges, you have to scout the entire world for players. Essentially, he either does the AEW job and his role at Fulham suffers (and to be fair, they finally seem to have got their act together on player/coaching recruitment) or vice versa. He needs a team behind him, of course, but he also needs his stars to not act like douchebags. I really doubt that Tony has to worry about Mitro chatting shit behind Marco Silva's back right now. CM Snowflake on the other hand...`

You know you know you know you know you know you know you know you know you know you know

@TheWhiff12

Жыл бұрын

You know

@RyanDMoore

Жыл бұрын

I mean, yeah, like, welllll, you know, I mean

If it wasn’t for KZread wrestling channels I never would have given a second thought to the Punk Hangman thing. Just seemed like a normal part of the show.

@theognostus1829

Жыл бұрын

The world champion challenges the top babyface to a rematch and the face doesn't come out? This segment defied wrestling logic, nothing normal about it.

@donkeysaurusrex7881

Жыл бұрын

@@theognostus1829 Page is supposed to be a face? He does nothing with his cowboy gimmick aside from the entrance video and a move name. Just another generic I AM WRESTLER character

@thewindozer

Жыл бұрын

There are so many marks out there good Lord you guys literally are getting worked into a work that's at work come on man I mean you got to understand the guys that make these KZread channels depend on you to be stupid and click on them for every little thing so they don't have to go get real jobs they can just go and play telephone

@-The-Darkside

Жыл бұрын

It was part of the show... Punk trying to work the marks like Dave? say it aint so...

@KairosObj

Жыл бұрын

Yea it was part of the show..Punk is lookin to get more heat. Peeps are fallin' for all of this hook, line and sinker.

What’s dangerous is when people stark to take sides instead of staying out of it. The roster could be divided very soon over something like this

@ThailandDantotherescue

Жыл бұрын

Over what, a clearly worked angle? If punk was toxic he would get hangman buried or fired... not challenge him to a rematch on television... come on.. don't drink the coolaid. Next you will think he really hates mox.. one of the guys he picked to be in the sheild.. a cm punk creation.

@thtsnico

Жыл бұрын

@@ThailandDantotherescue punk tried to get colt fired, and he was a background player for a midcard comedy act, and it’s causing world war 3. imagine what would happen with hangman

@ThailandDantotherescue

Жыл бұрын

@@thtsnico no, he didn't. Cabana was already signed when punk joined AEW. If it was a problem punk would have stayed at home. He never once tried to get Cabana fired. They have a legit history outside of any promotion and they simply don't interact. I'm astounded that people believe these fake rumors. Tk would have paid Cabana his entire contract and released him with a non disclosure if punk made that a term of his employment. He didn't because it's never been an issue unless you listen to the bottom of the barrel dirt sheet click bait.

@caiuscosades362

Жыл бұрын

@@ThailandDantotherescue If it's a work and people think it's a shoot, it's not because of anything we saw on Dynamite it will be solely on "a certain reputable wrestling journalist" insisting it wasn't a work.

@milk_bath

Жыл бұрын

@@caiuscosades362 Exactly. This is unbelievably gullible behavior from F4W. I’d be surprised if Page doesn’t cause a DQ in the title match next week to set up a triple threat at All Out.

Unless something big BIG happens, this is just reach. People love dramas so they secretly hope this situation gets worse and causes drama.

@aliuniversal4100

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like a news network

@savagecatgt

Жыл бұрын

Haha, yeah. I'm guilty if this, but that's why I watch TLC. I don't sow discord at my workplace/favorite place lol. I wonder who these informants are and their motivations. I know its not crazy to imagine punk being a punk, but it could easily be kayfabe. You know?

@GoldCoastChuck

Жыл бұрын

Well, I think we've firmly established this wasn't a reach.

@DethCoveredHoneyBuns

Жыл бұрын

Well, I'd say something big happened. Lol

@MScal0316

Жыл бұрын

This aged like milk lol

"I think um... Theres a lot of perceptions of a lot of different things" - Dave Meltzer, 2022

@byron7583

Жыл бұрын

I literally scrolled and saw your comment the second he said it 🤣🤣🤣

@chrisradzion2148

Жыл бұрын

My new favorite Uncle Dave quote.

Hasn't CM Punk always been somewhat toxic? Never heard any stories about Mox, Hangman, Omega or any of the other maineventers in AEW being toxic

@damndippindots560

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, he’s ‘that guy.’ We’ve all known one: thinks he’s better than everyone, has a chip on his shoulder, quick to anger, slow to forgive, and stirs shit due to his own insecurities and/or legitimate gripes that become much bigger because of all the above.

@KennyOmegasCavity

Жыл бұрын

@@damndippindots560 Reminds me of Shawn in 96-97. Except Shawn was influenced by his drugs. Punk isnt influenced by anything

@joshuajohnson979

Жыл бұрын

Mox, hangman, omega arent saints dude. Punk is a bigger star as well and a better talent.

@zrizzoh9712

Жыл бұрын

You don’t hear anything about Kenny, or guys like that because Dave is too close to that group of people and won’t post anything bad about them, same thing he did for Konan in the 90’s and other people over time. Once more people start leaving AEW you’ll hear more and more about how shitty of people the “Elite” are and how little people besides their independent show buddies like them. Punk is trying to teach a group of children who don’t understand how the business works but think they know it all.

@mdptg1990

Жыл бұрын

@@zrizzoh9712 touch grass g

Eddie Kingston and MJF said so much worse to CM Punk to his face than Hangman did. Hangman did the job for him. He was smiling ear to ear the next night before getting injured. He cuts that never say die promo on Rampage after that. It is hard to believe he would come back and bury Hangman like that unless it was strategic because if Punk was that petty it proves everything Eddie Kingston said about not wanting him in the company. To me this is Punk just living up to his name to garner interest.

@blablablaa14

Жыл бұрын

MJF and Kingston didn't allude to the real shit with CM Punk to the same degree

@michaelrivera8360

Жыл бұрын

Punk doesn't like those guys either apparently for real

@ltothemagain

Жыл бұрын

MJF was working. The whole I was your fan, photo of him with Punk thing. Eddie Kingston is a shoot because he thinks Punk looks down on him for being unprofessional and a screw up.

@milk_bath

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelrivera8360 Stopped getting worked ya mark. SMDH

@ronniejdio9411

Жыл бұрын

News flash. Eddie Kingston has heat with someone. Again.

Honestly when you get accused of being a backstage cancer and your reaction to that is being a backstage cancer then thats probably not the smartest thing to do...

@NL-fg6it

Жыл бұрын

Depends on your perspective. Are we talking about him? Yes. When you’re the main event of a promo, attention and good promos and solid matches are all that matter. Punk delivers on all 3 fronts. Something that nobody else other than MJF and Bryan can do.

@thetribalist6923

Жыл бұрын

@@NL-fg6it gotta add Mox and Jericho to that list. Their title match last week got better ratings than Punk’s and MJF’s very first televised match. I’m a big MJF fan, but I think fans way over rate his ability to draw viewers and money.

@NL-fg6it

Жыл бұрын

@@thetribalist6923 I personally don’t like Mox or modern Jericho matches. Often sloppy and don’t make sense.

@thetribalist6923

Жыл бұрын

@@NL-fg6it Honestly I’d say they’re both less sloppy than punk is these days. I’m a fan of punk but he botches big time in every match. I think Jericho’s ‘s had a ton of great matches this year, but yeah some of his matches get a little too overthought for their own good, but I think Moxleys matches are pretty straightforward and logical. Guy wants to brutalize his opponent; guy succeeds in doing so. Mox was pretty sloppy in the pull apart brawl this past week, I’ll give you that.

@keithjackewicz8423

Жыл бұрын

@@thetribalist6923 Mox goes way over the top in every single fucking match, there’s nothing “logical” about it. Punk is very sloppy, but he makes up for it by being a great psychologist.

People are almost more interested in the backstage aspect of wrestling than the in-ring. I think AEW is capitalizing on that by feeding this info to the people that will put the story out there (Dave, Bryan). Similar to the MJF situation, it creates a lot of buzz. I could be wrong but I’d say it’s a strong possibility.

@mervstash3692

Жыл бұрын

Only problem is that stuff is only heard by a small minority. They already watch the show

@starbreaker269

Жыл бұрын

That doesn't bring in more viewers The fans that follow sites like pwinsider already watch

@TheJSexton24

Жыл бұрын

So you’re admitting they’re getting worked? Dave and Bryan that’s sad if so they Seam to find the truth on everything in WWE but they’re just going to write the story AEW tells them?? Journalists…

@elitetalk4713

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣 AEW's ship already sunk.

@-The-Darkside

Жыл бұрын

Dave should have more integrity.

Imagine Dave and Vince Russo talking about a topic: "I mean" "bro" "You know, I mean" "yeah bro" "I mean" "I know bro"

@stacymirba1433

Жыл бұрын

Don't forget after he rambles on for 3 minutes but never gets to his point and then says, "Whatever."

@henrygvidonas9573

Жыл бұрын

You forgot "bro... c'moooooon, bro" and "Y'know...uuuhh, y'know". Other than that, pretty acurate description.

When they both joined AEW I always thought Bryan was telling the truth about helping younger guys. I don't know why but Punk came off disingenuous to me. He talks about standing up for your co-workers but doesn't even mention Cabana

@gmcuttin1727

Жыл бұрын

Why would he and why should he?

@gmcuttin1727

Жыл бұрын

@@wh2568 There is literally no proof of that.

@philo2189

Жыл бұрын

Ok but when Bryan came in he literally said he doesn't want to help out younger guys so idk where you're getting this from lmao

@spac18

Жыл бұрын

@@philo2189 that was a hell promo you fool, he's putting over guys after guys

@gmcuttin1727

Жыл бұрын

@@spac18 He said that in interviews and podcasts too

It's never been the same since the day the bunny did the splits on the thumbtacks

I have to admit, there's a part of me that wonders if Punk and Page are going back and forth on the phone, laughing their asses off and trying to come up with something to do next to keep it going.

@savagecatgt

Жыл бұрын

I think they are channelling Bret and Shawn who famously worked themselves into a shoot. I can see that happening here if they keep working the boys.

I think Tony khan didn't know it was like this when u run a wrestling company and being a friend of the wrestlers will prevent from having problems, does not work like that

@WillS724

Жыл бұрын

Yep. He thought everything there is to do in the wrestling business happens IN the ring. He's a failure backstage and a laughing stock

@coke8045

Жыл бұрын

@@WillS724 No he's not. You're toxic as hell.

I think Tony Khan's biggest test will be the ability to be the boss of his roster instead of their buddy. If he isn't able to diffuse these situations it'll be bad long-term for AEW. It's possible that in a matter of weeks as many as five of their championships will be held by people who were all established as stars in WWE. Now I don't believe in "WWE guys" as a concept and it would be foolish not to capitalize on stars who were eventually misused and can be better used in AEW, however at the same time you don't want the people established in your company to feel like fillers and placeholders.

@ronniejdio9411

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Right or wrong if guys are causing drama over cabana then I'd let cabana go. He'd be a sacrificial lamb. It would show everyone hey khan means business. And you'd lose a dude who sells very few tickets . Gotta cut out the cancer with a steak knife

@Matt-cr4vv

Жыл бұрын

I think it could be ok for “WWE guys” to hold titles IF the company uses AEW guys in storylines to build their previous roster with that talent. If they only keep WWE established guys at the top and don’t weave in AEW guys to be at their level than they run the risk of what happened with WCW and TNA people and becoming “WWE light”.

@riddlerguy4599

Жыл бұрын

But didn't fans bash TNA for this same problem for years? Pushing every single hot ex WWE act that walks In?

@MrSircharles05

Жыл бұрын

@@riddlerguy4599 yes they did, but for some reason it's ok when AEW does it.

Cornette and Last have been alluding to this for months now.

@xShoTime83x

Жыл бұрын

Those guys are so out of touch though!

@henrygvidonas9573

Жыл бұрын

@@xShoTime83x How is predicting what is going to happen "out of touch"?

@xShoTime83x

Жыл бұрын

@@henrygvidonas9573 Ask the people who really think that, since it was made dripping in sarcasm and what the majority of people who comment here would say.

I’m still gonna blame CODY for the problems in AEW, when he left, all this crap started…lol

@RafaelTorres-mb5hf

Жыл бұрын

Well actually is true. I think once Cody left Tony lost the locker.

@NL-fg6it

Жыл бұрын

@@RafaelTorres-mb5hf it left a bigger gap between the in ring psychology type wrestlers and the gymnasts. Cody bridged that gap at the beginning because he was in with the gymnasts.

You Know. You Know. You Know. You Know. You Know. You Know. You Know. You Know. You Know. You Know You Know. You Know. You Know. You Know. You Know……….

Wait, 2 wrestlers don’t like each other?? WOW, never heard about that!

The funny thing about this is that when people talk about it, they focus on the Hangman comments and gloss over the fact Punk went out of his way to bury Eddie Kingston, too, for no reason while name-dropping WWE people again just because he can't let anything go.

@WhelmedButReady

Жыл бұрын

That's because that wasnt anything at all. It was part of the promo to get a rise out of Moxley. He has zero issue that we know of with either of those guys. The name drops were just to pop the crowd nothing more.

@rl318

Жыл бұрын

@@WhelmedButReady Well, unless Kingston is getting in on whatever angle Punk thinks he is doing, the comments he made about Punk did not seem like it was meant to pop the crowd.

@Basillikos

Жыл бұрын

I wish more people would bring attention to the fact that in Moxley's part of the promo battle he actually put over how significant the upcoming match is and how upset he is it's taken this long to finally fight Punk and legitimize his current title reign. Moxley didn't go for references or cheap pops, he stayed focused on the storyline instead of burying his opponent.

@rl318

Жыл бұрын

@@Basillikos This whole thing is weird and makes no sense unless Page is going to fight Punk at the PPV if this is a work. And Moxley is not my favorite wrestler in the world, but this whole conversation has gotten away from him being in the match.

@uncouthliyouth4486

Жыл бұрын

@@Basillikos Yea he's a pro. Punk is well a fuckin punk.

I have always been a huge fan of CM Punk, but this has happened so many times with him, it is becoming habit.

@TheMrAlgoh

Жыл бұрын

He makes AEW watchable and unpredictable. Now this will lead to character development for Hangman.

@hiddensword9387

Жыл бұрын

dude it's just reporters sensationalising lol they've done it for forever almost. Take one issue and blow it up into something more, gets us talking lol

@billywashere6965

Жыл бұрын

@@TheMrAlgoh Or people getting suspended.

I don't believe it personally. I think they are trying to rebuild some kind of kayfabe and are working everyone.

@michaelrivera8360

Жыл бұрын

That is prob could be true but like every work...what is the end goal because this doesn't do anyone good.

@thecreatoroflaziness

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelrivera8360 Heat

@HakunonMatata

Жыл бұрын

Remember the last company that tried to do that?

WWE started gaining momentum after WrestleMania. Hence proved, Cody Rhodes is the real needle mover.

@savagecatgt

Жыл бұрын

I'm not saying you're right, but Cody has to be feeling pretty good right about now.

@alokpandey8317

Жыл бұрын

@@savagecatgt Cody Rhodes has become God of Monday night Raw. He would main event next year WrestleMania. He has everything to be next John Cena

You guys in the wrestling media are so jaded, you dont even see an organic, fantastic angle, when you see one.

@thtsnico

Жыл бұрын

why would they promote the biggest match in company history for the ppv, where people will willingly give them $50 a pop, only to change their minds a couple hours later & randomly announce that it’ll happen on free television, 2 weeks before the event it was originally planned for? so they can blow off this mysterious angle you guys think it is, in 1 week? stop with the cope. it’s not a work

@thtsnico

Жыл бұрын

@@MeMe-td1ye there is literally no match they can book that would be bigger than the 2 biggest stars in the company wrestling for the title, which is what they’re giving away on free television. i wouldn’t be surprised if they’re giving it away 2 weeks early because punk wants out

@philo2189

Жыл бұрын

@@thtsnico because that match isn't the biggest match on ppv. Mjf vs Punk in Chicago is. Stop with the cope it's a work.

@thtsnico

Жыл бұрын

@@MeMe-td1ye if i am, cool. i don’t think so though. guess we’ll find out wednesday if some “big angle” goes down. but if the show goes off the air with a clean winner and nothing else .. 🤷‍♂️

@thtsnico

Жыл бұрын

@@philo2189 to think mjf vs. punk will do the same business as punk vs. mox is hilariously delusional. way too in the iwc bubble.

I don't know if Tony has the personality to deal with all of those egos. It seems like he'd get walked on by some of them.

@Guy4318

Жыл бұрын

Heck, he started a company with their kliq in-group right there in the name. Considering how many of the original AEW hires connected with them produced diddly-to-squat, and who was likely the most reasonable EVP is already gone, I’m hoping they realize they need to be putting up comparable numbers and entertainment fast.

Hangmam said he pities him because he doesn't know what it means to be a champion. That being a champion is what you do when the red light goes off. He basically said punk had no integrity amd he was protecting aew from punk. Of course he feels disrespected.

@zlanath

Жыл бұрын

which is pretty much what Eddie Kingston said about him

@billywashere6965

Жыл бұрын

And he wasn't wrong. CM Punk is not John Cena. Love him or hate him, John Cena carried himself in the ring and out of the ring like a champion.

@charongold6532

Жыл бұрын

@@billywashere6965 Lol Punk never wanted to be Cena... the whole point was to be anti cena because he knew that there was a place for him Who where brutaly tired of everything Super Cena... he was able to do what Cena could not...to be a batman to his superman .. hence why MITB was one of best PPVS in 2010's... Nothing could touch him

Dave is always right in the end lol

I hope they can fix it

This is what happens in any company when there's a lack of top-down leadership. TK seems like a great guy and I admire his genuine love and passion for wrestling, but he's not cut out for managing a roster. He needs to cede authority to someone with credibility. He has Jim Ross, Arn Anderson, and William Regal on his payroll. Any one of them is capable of the task.

AEW have a really unique position right now. They've got guys who were brought up or worked for WWE, and they have guys who came up through the independents. The storyline writes itself. "The Corporation" vs "The Rebels" idk rename them how you want but you get the idea. There'd obviously be some issues with working out how faces and heels would work together, but seriously if they can't or won't capitalize on this then idk. What the end prize is idk either, but it seems to me this is something that should absolutely be incorporated into the programming.

@population-_-420

Жыл бұрын

Aew vs WWE enough said

@KairosObj

Жыл бұрын

The story is there but will they take advantage..who knows. Fun doesn't seem to register much with TK as of late when it comes to these grippin' storylines.

@christopherolivarez4887

Жыл бұрын

Jericho kind of took the fun out of it by calling his group sport entertainers…. The real sports entertainers shouldve been all the wwe guys vs the wrestlers aew guys

@ronniejdio9411

Жыл бұрын

Not sure khan wants to tell that story. But a verison of tje BPCC vs the elite is better than what we have now

@WillReacts

Жыл бұрын

it doesn't work because literally all the "WWE" guys are literally sloppy seconds. Really its Punk and Adam Cole as the only guys who actively chose AEW over WWE in the grand scheme of things.

"it's all people are talking about" Job done!

I was never on Punk's side since he came back, I really don't go with his vibe, he seems like a somewhat toxic guy for sure. He calling Hangman a coward just makes himself look like a coward, he did that because he knows Hangman couldn't do anything because it was not a part of the segment. Very unprofessional.

@TheJSexton24

Жыл бұрын

Hangman took a shot at him in the promo before their match it was just a receipt… The Elite are being the toxic ones cause they dont want to do what’s best for business that’s why the Bucks wouldn’t drop the titles to FTR and instead turned face

@redzero1649

Жыл бұрын

You are spot on.

@RyanDMoore

Жыл бұрын

Yeah Punk is a bit of a punk. A diva. I never liked him in WWE or earlier, never saw the hype. Dude had a big ego. Most straight edge guys do. Got a Pepsi tattoo to stick it to people who drink, lol, he thinks he's better than people. Arrogant. He's not really that cool. I liked him at the start of his run AEW but, jeez man he's a douche

@ronniejdio9411

Жыл бұрын

Sawft

@billywashere6965

Жыл бұрын

Yup, 100% agreed.

My initial question, based on Dave’s quote, is: “why has Dave spent all this time writing about how there are no problems backstage at AEW (“it’s all blown out of proportion”, “it’s all internet rumour”), knowing full-well that that isn’t true? Wouldn’t be to protect his little buddies, would it?

@Ludzig

Жыл бұрын

Damn your Smart, u should start a podcast

@Khader1093

Жыл бұрын

oops you found out the truth my friend 🤣. they are scared that TK would finally see their segments are the utter shit that is holding back the show. since TK initially wanted Punk to be the person AEW based upon before signing the Indy trampoline cowboys.

@shredenvain7

Жыл бұрын

It is a work!!!! This is Punk doing what he did in ROH and WWE during the previous 2 summer of Punks. Meltzer is either helping them draw attention or he is getting worked. The facts of this sudden locker room in chaos don't make sense. This is exactly what Punk got famous for doing everywhere he has been. Wade Keller just did a report on how Punk and Kahn had an hour long meeting the day of dynamite and Punk was reported to be going about business as usual in a great mood. Funny how no one has to give you any details of anything that was said backstage during this breaking point moment for you to buy into it. Of course disputes backstage happen. This is Aew building attention for their product by allowing Punk to do what he does best. Being controversial and pissing people off.

@greyfox4838

Жыл бұрын

man you think you're so smart, but you're not, the reason Dave's story has changed is because before he was reporting it truthfully, then recently AEW started feeding him this work, and Dave likes clicks, just like SRS, so he started reporting on it even though he knows it's a work, by clicking on this false news of backstage heat, you're only helping Dave's bottomline, you're better off going back to the Jim Cornette corner you came from

@mattsands161

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I remember hearing Meltzer say that the reports of backstage issues between Cody Rhodes and AEW were being blown out of proportion. Apparently not.

Until there is a hair pulling fight backstage like Bret and Shawn, and Page storms into Tony's office slams his hair on the desk and threatens to quit this is a total waste of time.

Ha u all are just fallin' for this work hook, line and sinker. Its marvelous.

I wonder what Cody thinks about all this and if he’s glad he got out when he did??

@blackjack23able

Жыл бұрын

He's got other stuff to worry about mainly whether or not Triple H is going to be Petty towards him or not when he returns

@gregthegroove

Жыл бұрын

@@blackjack23able Cody’s love and admiration for HHH has always been noted. They have a very good relationship. Cody def has his critics, but interestingly enough, he has kinda decent relationships with no real beef.

@gmcuttin1727

Жыл бұрын

@@gregthegroove He was talking trash about HHH for years.

@C666O

Жыл бұрын

He was also rumoured to have trashed talked HHH before he left WWE and gone independent so when he gets cleared is going to be interesting for the IWC to figure out what HHH is going to do with him.

@kevinr8579

Жыл бұрын

@@blackjack23able Are you stupid? Triple H and Cody have a good relationship. Cody praised him in interviews.

I’m pretty sure they’re working everyone, but only because Punk got the Michael Jordan bug from the Last Dance and was like “ohhhhh, everybody thinks I’m an asshole, I could do that too.” and there’s no better locker room to lean into that idea than a locker room filled with indy guys who wrestled undercards with Punk in the mid-to-late 2000’s

@caiuscosades362

Жыл бұрын

That's the genius of it, they only need to work Unca' Dave to call it a shoot then watch 99% of wrestling media and fandom follow suit.

@billywashere6965

Жыл бұрын

@@caiuscosades362 For all the people who rag on Dave and his reporting, they sure do follow suit whenever he breaks a big story.

It’s funny how AEW was making fun of Vince McMahon drama in WWE and now AEW has its own drama with CM Punk and how other wrestlers backstage feel about him , that’s what AEW gets for signing all these ex WWE wrestlers instead of just calling up people from ROH and other indie wrestling companies.

@savagecatgt

Жыл бұрын

Most wrestlers have egos larger than they need. Indie wrestlers can become the same monsters as former WWE guys. I wonder what can be done though.

@riddlerguy4599

Жыл бұрын

AEW had drama with Indie people already like Ivelisse and that's why I heard AEW never signed Joey Ryan.

I hope AEW fans start doing colt cabana chants the way wwe fans used to do cm punk chants

Colt Cabana was a non existent entity within the Dark Order and on screen period BEFORE Punk got there.

@volodymyrbilyk555

Жыл бұрын

He was a nonentity even before brodie got on board which over a year before Punk came back

@Copperstoned

Жыл бұрын

Punk is trying to make the whole roster relevant again and bah gawd, it’s working!

@MyChannel-ol1zz

Жыл бұрын

So therefore he deserves to lose his job

@TerrelLism

Жыл бұрын

@@MyChannel-ol1zz No one can say if Punk was a catalyst when Tony was considering releasing him based on his total AEW booking. Tony wasn't going to keep him whether Punk was there or not.

@MyChannel-ol1zz

Жыл бұрын

@@TerrelLism Those that actually work there and know Cabana can say and they have.

I’m dubious. All of the Bret Hart mimicry, and now this?

@redzero1649

Жыл бұрын

He's a Shawn Michaels guy at heart 😂

Gonna help with ratings. And won't even be an issue by next month.

The thing about CM Punk promos is that they all feel personal! Its excellent work and gets everyone talking and watching.

MJF was right. I don’t think he went about it the right way but he was right.

In my opinion it’s one of the best WOR segments in a long time. Great insight into the state of AEW as a whole along with historical perspective. Giving creative freedom to so much wrestlers is a bigger challenge than we could have thought of. I hope lessons will be learned

Very interesting sitaution.

Dave is on some heavy shock-journalism right now. The video has 10x as many views so its working..

I feel AEW are trying to heat up their product , next weeks viewership will be the starting point

@blablablaa14

Жыл бұрын

They literally had their biggest show last week and didn't break a million. Name a bigger show than a Punk/Mox promo to open and an Omega return Bucks trios match to close. It was as big as they could but they might be stuck around a million for now

@brianfinn6800

Жыл бұрын

The desperation

@michaelrivera8360

Жыл бұрын

If they are doing this for attention ask Russo and WCW how that worked out for them

@philo2189

Жыл бұрын

@@blablablaa14 look at next week's dynamite this week is no where near as big as next weeks

@philo2189

Жыл бұрын

@@blablablaa14 and stop the "they still didn't break a million" Stop this obsession you e drones have with aew breaking a million just because WWE who's 50 years older breaks a million every week. They're doing 900k plus every week and are number one on cable almost every week. It's a three year company and they're accomplishing that. That's very good stop this one million viewership obsession.

Take a drink every time Dave says “you know.”

@savagecatgt

Жыл бұрын

No. That's how people die.

It's very depressing relistening to this in 2024 knowing where it all ended up

Don't ratings always get better after Mania?

@prajwalthakare7305

Жыл бұрын

Nope

@michaelrivera8360

Жыл бұрын

Historically actually no then they pick up in July around Summerslam

What is Dave’s obsession with bringing Goldberg into AEW? He wouldn’t fit in at all not to mention it’s just a stupid idea and he keeps talking about it

@TheJSexton24

Жыл бұрын

Yes bringing in one of the biggest stars of all time for a one off would be terrible… I hate you people

@-The-Darkside

Жыл бұрын

He brings it up like once a month, it's the last thing they should do. Goldberg is not a draw anymore.

@kurgerbing826

Жыл бұрын

Because GOATberg is a draw.

@starbreaker269

Жыл бұрын

@@-The-Darkside what proof do you have that he's not

@kingslayer2999

Жыл бұрын

I would rather see Kevin Nash come into AEW to Bury some of the young guys who will Never Draw a Damn Dime in the Wrestling Business.

How can anyone survive with this HEAT??!! MY GOD THE HEAT!

I love how much we're being worked. This is all leading to heel punk vs face mjf

Don't try to paint this like Scott Hall and Kevin Nash running wild all over the WCW booking. This is being exaggerated a LOT in my opinion

I'm 1:30 into this and Dave says "you know" far too much.

I don't have cable anymore and I would guess a lot of people have dropped their cable subscription. Just a different era now

I can't wait til Wednesday post coverage. And then I'll enjoy the following story where the media is all confused about what's what. At the end of the day its more views for everyone boost in paywall subscriptions etc. No1 will ever come out and say we have no clue what's going on

AEW never beat WWE at anything

Weird how this lines up perfectly with the House of the dragon story

@toddbrown242

Жыл бұрын

You mean a man and a woman fighting over a throne with dragons and people taking sides is like Punk and Page cutting promos on each other? I mean, sure. Pretty much the exact same thing.

I forget where I seen it, but I think it is worth while taking a look at it. Besides MJF Punk has faced all top baby faces so maybe the whole time AEW was telling us Punk is the heel.

@billywashere6965

Жыл бұрын

Multiple people have also talked about him being the bad guy of the locker room, and this kind of goes back to stories told by Jericho and Booker T, too.

"he obviousl...you know...i mean....hes like i mean hes coming back you know like Vince didnt like that i think um yeah you know and um yeah"

This is silly talk. Everything Dave is saying he goes right back 5 mins later and says the exact opposite. Aew is doomed but they are doing great on Wednesday finishing on the top of the cable charts which is awesome for a company so young. Aew was beating raw in the demo a year ago so they are doomed. Aew isn't in trying to beat raw. These journalist do everything in their power to feed into the social media fan wars and dramatic statements that barely make sense. I swear it was 5 weeks ago WWE was going to sell. Now they are doing just fine. Now CM punk shows up on dynamite and drops a receipt for Hangman over some shit that happened 4 months ago and all the top stars are reaching their breaking points. Punk has done interviews and been apart of Aew panels while injured as well as page and neither one of them started any shit. Punk came back last week and saved Moxley. Yet somehow this week shit escalated so much that punk claimed to think about not showing up? 2 weeks before the ppv? C'mon this was video was like two school girls gossiping by the lockers before school.

@ManiacFitness

Жыл бұрын

Ya Dave's a clown and he always does that so then he can say nes never wrong

@thtsnico

Жыл бұрын

why would they promote the biggest match in company history for the ppv, where people will willingly give them $50 a pop, only to change their minds a couple hours later & randomly announce that it’ll happen on free television, 2 weeks before the event it was originally planned for? so they can blow off this mysterious angle you guys think it is, in 1 week? stop with the cope. it’s not a work

@gmcuttin1727

Жыл бұрын

@@thtsnico ​ They've had plenty of big matches on free TV. Hangman/Danielson was on free TV two weeks in a row, Kenny/Danielson was another.

@thtsnico

Жыл бұрын

@@gmcuttin1727 neither of those matches were promoted for a ppv, only to change plans 2 weeks before the show. also, neither of those matches were within weeks of ppv’s

@antoniocassano9837

Жыл бұрын

@@thtsnico It was hardly promoted, CM Punk only returned one week prior. They didn't want this match to happen yet, they got stuck with it because of Punks injury. So how do you protect two wrestlers that you don't want to lose? You turn it into a triple threat match.

In fact I think Meltzer is getting worked cuz none of this shit between Punk and Hangman makes sense. 1st off Hangman has been in a holding pattern since Punk left. Punk has had plenty of chances to voice his dissatisfaction with Hangman in interviews or panels. Hangman as well. 2nd Punk came back last week and had no issues. Nothing was reported by anyone. It seems awfully strange that a week goes by and Punk comes out to the ring playing a side of his character that he got famous for full of anger over a promo that happened 5 months ago. 3 AEW hasnt been able to properly build All OUT Do to waiting on injured stars to return. This drama punk is creating is the exact same kind of shit he pulled in ROH as a heel as well as in WWE as a face during the summers of punk. This "backstage breaking point" has snow balled in the wrestling press super fast drawing a shit load of attention as well as anticipation for Dynamite and the Punk Moxley match. Punk even said in the ring Wednesday You be the heart and soul and I'll be the dollars and cents. Every word out of punks mouth was "shoot shit" about Hangman and Moxley. You people really believe that a dude crying over Tony Kahn buying ROH is mad enough about a line from a promo that now he wants to quit? Dave and the rest of you are playing right in to Punks hands. I literally just saw a news story where Wade Keller said the word backstage is Punk and Tony had a long meeting before this weeks Dynamite and the word is Punk was happy go lucky backstage the entire time before dynamite went on air. Punk is being everything bad you heard about him in the past out in the open out of nowhere while being all the things that made him a household name at the same time.

@cesarisasalad

Жыл бұрын

OMG the copium from this comment lol ask yourself this, why would aew pull this at the same time that Kenny Omega came back? Why would aew put Kenny Omega's return in the background while this silly shit goes on?

@chili_au

Жыл бұрын

I think you're right, but when it all plays out I think Dave will still try to claim it was not a work by some stupid technicality..

@shredenvain7

Жыл бұрын

@@cesarisasalad If you think this is me coping you don't understand how story telling works. You must not have seen Punk do this in ROH before he left or when he did it in WWE. My post wasn't implying that there aren't your normal work place issues backstage at Aew. My point is that the circumstances surrounding this situation dont make sense. Punk didn't make a name for himself being the baby face that all the fans love while being a model employee. Why would a grown ass man get angry at a promo and not say anything about it for months conveniently only mentioning it his 2nd week back from work? Go back and watch the opening segment of Dynamite and compare it to Punks pipe bomb in WWE. In WWE punk glorified ROH and Indie wrestling using his past as a positive example to shit on WWE. Wednesday he did the same thing. He also did it before in ROH. Somehow though it is real this time? C'mon this is Punk doing what Punk is good at instead of being a nostalgia act. This is a work. What the fuck does any of this have to do with Kenny? Punks "incident" wouldn't help draw attention to last week's show but it will help next week's show and if played right it could help the ppv.

@philo2189

Жыл бұрын

@@cesarisasalad because this is a way bigger story than omega returning sorry it is and they know that that's a very easy question to answer lmao

@philo2189

Жыл бұрын

@@chili_au Dave will do the same BS Sean Ross Sapp did when that mjf situation he's been reporting on for months turned out to be a work he said "it was a shoot that turned into a work" bro cope and seethe you got worked lmao the fact that these reporter's really think aew won't purposely feed them information knowing that they'll leak it is baffling to me. Oh yeah the workers in the work place are definitely going to tell you something is a shoot and not a work and you're just gunna believe that? Lmao these guys can't be serious man

If it was such a problem and put people on the spot, all u have to do is cut Punk short and play Mox's music when he calls out Hangman, Mox comes out and tells/shows him where his focus should be. Mox coming out was in the plans anyway so it would be easy for them to do. I don't see this as a big deal and it being that off-script if at all.

@billywashere6965

Жыл бұрын

Well he completely buried Hangman on live television.

This can only be settled with a Tony Khan on a Pole match

Some, no actually many of these comments are so laughably stupid. Making the stereotype of wrestling fans look very accurate.

@wrestlingp

Жыл бұрын

Cope harder mate, you're embarrassing yourself 🤭

@MyChannel-ol1zz

Жыл бұрын

@@wrestlingp Proving my point crybaby🤣

@wrestlingp

Жыл бұрын

@@MyChannel-ol1zz Oh dear, such a poor attempt at being self-righteous. So cringeworthy 🤣

@MyChannel-ol1zz

Жыл бұрын

@@wrestlingp Look at you all shaken so easily! The little guy can’t handle being exposed, hang in there kid 😂😂😂

@wrestlingp

Жыл бұрын

@@MyChannel-ol1zz You're the one whose cage has been shook by all these 'LaUgHaBlY sTuPiD' comments from others, now you're back nibbling at all my bait, getting all in a huff. All you have are cringeworthy insults and obnoxiousness. Go on mate, have the last word, I know you're begging for it 🤣

I can speak for everyone that I'd rather have this situation in my workplace than hearing another Hit Row concert performance 🤢🤢

@joshalmeida3177

Жыл бұрын

Truth.

@11sdownie

Жыл бұрын

Haha watching this awful company fall apart is amazing

@brianparker5592

Жыл бұрын

That hit row segment was like 5min, this childish shit has been going on for months. Give me the cringe rap segment any day.

Cody Rhodes was the baclstage leader

...wait...TK met with Punk Before the show. What do you think that was about? I'm convinced this is a work otherwise someone would've said something

@kevinr8579

Жыл бұрын

Stop being a smark. Nothing everything is a work. People have met Punk before has had severe problems

Dave's brain has rocks in it.

I don't know why but it really feels like Cody's exit switched the momentum of both companies

@keithjackewicz8423

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely hilarious if Cody was the one holding things together backstage in AEW, considering all we heard was what an egomaniac primadonna he was being.

@Matt-cr4vv

Жыл бұрын

I think the shock of Cody’s exit was almost a perfect storm of factors that made it such a surprise. Cody was the first big AEW name to move to the other side since the tide has been essentially all WWE to AEW. Akin to X-PAC being one of the first bigger names to move to WWF during the time period that it seemed all the defections were WWF to WCW in a sense. But further was the shock in terms of how he left there so I think many never realistically thought he’d make his way back. But I think the biggest thing was it really reinforced for any who doubted it or forgot that WWE is still the major leagues. It was shocking to see someone who was an EVP, likely making a lot of money and a likely job for life, to leave and state how important it was to him and his legacy to go back to WWE. I think it also demonstrated that WWE still has that appeal and that there’s a real chance that bigger name AEW guys may make the move to the other side once their deals are done in AEW. For awhile so many people were speaking about how much they hated their tenure in WWE, including guys like Mox or Jericho. But after seeing someone as well set as Cody making that move, and being used well, it isn’t out of the question that guys will decide to make that move. That’s even further enhanced now that Vince is gone and HHH is in place because so many enjoyed their time in NXT with him.

@Matt-cr4vv

Жыл бұрын

And further shocking about backstage news has been people seeing that AEW is normal of all things. For so long AEW painted the picture that it was all sunshine there. I think anybody realistically knew that couldn’t be the case but Cody leaving and subsequent rumors are showing that AEW is a normal company, which may detract future WWE people who would’ve left. Because they may think that they’re gonna deal with BS at either place so there’s no reason to leave. It will also be discouraging for people to leave considering that AEW has been doing what WWE was doing and keep stockpiling talent. There are so many people who left WWE because they weren’t getting used to go to AEW and the same thing is happening to them there. I’m not sure how comparable the money is, and the schedule has to be pretty nice compared to the WWE schedule, but if you’re likely to sit on the bench either place then it may be more appealing to stay with what you know than risk the move just to have the same thing happen for I would think less money.

To quote Punk (in regards to Moxley saying he's the heart and soul of AEW) "You can be the heart and soul, I'll be the dollars and the cents"

This was always at some point going to happen. It was never going to be all roses and daisies at AEW. We got the good, we got the bad and now we have the ugly. It's just dealing with the ugly side of these situations that AEW has to learn from. AEW has had a catalogue of injuries this year, there's constant politics backstage, it's just one of those situations where AEW has to get things in order, which they will of course. WWE always has issues these days, they never get things done correctly. WWE would rather sweep everything under the rug. Why should AEW shy away from these situations? This is why I watch AEW.

I expect Punk is fed up with the amateur, whinging indy loolipop guild of gymnasts and tumblers who dont like it that real wrestlers and stars have arrived and rightfully getting the limelight. If The young *****, WEirDo Omega, Hangman Page, Cassidy and the pudding gang dont like it, they can always leave.

The trolls and haters are sure coming out of the woodwork for this one...

@starbreaker269

Жыл бұрын

Criticism is "hating" apparently

It's a work

God damn Dave says “you know” a lot

Aew better get it together soon because Triple H ain’t playing around.

@gttrmgc3284

Жыл бұрын

lol

@staticcharm3808

Жыл бұрын

Because he brought back Hit Row and Karion Kross LOL?

To all the people in the comments saying "IT'S A WORK", if it is, it's Russo tier. That's not the booking you want to have if you're up against WWE on an upturn.

@markbtelevision

Жыл бұрын

👍👍👍👍

@MrRyanlennie2005

Жыл бұрын

WWE’s “upturn” is so overstated. It’s just some initial interest and all that’s happened is some fired NXT guys not good enough for Tony to sign have returned. I bet in a year they aren’t higher than they are now.

@22srs22

Жыл бұрын

@@MrRyanlennie2005 people said this same shit in 1998 about WWF's upturn

@philo2189

Жыл бұрын

This is way better than Russo lmao like WAAAAAY better. What Russo did was just lazy and not even thought out.

@HakunonMatata

Жыл бұрын

Based Makoto fan speaking logic as expected.

Just turn it into an angle. Win-win

100% work.

I can never finish listening to a video that Dave is talking in man… give me more Bryan

take a shot everytime uncle dave say "you know"

@joemoneymondays

Жыл бұрын

I'd die

@RyanDMoore

Жыл бұрын

I mean, well, yeah, you knew, like

Cena to aew would be huge someone you'd never think

I know people are saying every company has problems like this but don’t forget this was bad enough for Cody to leave

@hokiebuddy

Жыл бұрын

Cody left for the money and a main event push

TK buys ROH, and immediately AEW started taking a downturn in quality

@michaelrivera8360

Жыл бұрын

AEW has going down turn in quality a bit before Double or Nothing and ROH stuff ever since then AEW doesn't feel like the same company at all

@blablablaa14

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelrivera8360 I felt Full Gear, Hangmans win was the peak

@michaelrivera8360

Жыл бұрын

@@blablablaa14 true that is good point although we were getting MJF vs Punk and the start of Jericho vs Kingston which was good in the start tho

@Ceiling_Gato

Жыл бұрын

Why he doesn't give ROH to Regal or someone else is beyond me

@blablablaa14

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelrivera8360 Yeah that's tough to cut those out, I might say Punk/MJF was peak, but the rest of the show around Punk/MJF was showing a decline. Once Britt wasn't champion Women's wrestling became a 3 minute a week thing to them

2:36 If, Tony Khan has any intellectual talent he needs to get Colt Cabana to deliver a promo on CM Punk live on Rampage thus a new attitude plus faction with Adam Page. A sinister Dark Order that's leaving the stupid stuff behind.

@zerozeeros

Жыл бұрын

I'd love that idea. Smart thinking buddy

@mdjcsmith

Жыл бұрын

That's brilliant.

Punk was the guy set up the sheild days that's Kool

this aged well...

I think at the end of the day, wwe is very lucky and aew is very unlucky and I also agree with what Dave said today. After mania, wwe definitely had an up swing whereas aew became complacent and had bad bookings and after that, aew never picked up. Even though, if we look at the AEW product, they have good matches and better booking as compared to WWE. If WWE did the same stuff that AEW did, better promos and matches, they would get good ratings because they have been very lucky as they were the only players in the market. WWE was shit for a lot of time, I think they had a good time in 2011 then 2013 and then 2016 but in between, it's been consistently bad but aew was only bad for 2-3 months and they are struggling now. Aew needs to believe in themselves and start putting a better product consistently because wwe can get away with it but aew cannog

@philo2189

Жыл бұрын

The last couple of weeks were really great idk where ya getting this narrative from

@jerryldavis3944

Жыл бұрын

@@philo2189 no dude last 3 weeks have been great episodes but I was talking about double or nothing and the forbidden door ppv even though these were great shows, the booking was not that good. I think the booking till full gear and revolution were awesome but after that it's been bad, not terrible but bad and the last 3 weeks, the booking has been really good.

@TheAc550

Жыл бұрын

Fans withstood 20yrs of a bad product from Vince. They can definitely get away with it

@jerryldavis3944

Жыл бұрын

@@TheAc550 exactly bro

@staticcharm3808

Жыл бұрын

@@jerryldavis3944 Explain what you think is "good booking"?

I love these types of videos. AEW can get back on track, them missing their 3 top guys obviously hurt them a lot. However, I agree that the grandiose of WWE Big 4 PPVs makes AEW look second rate. AEW should start doing stadiums for DoN and All Put, even if they’re smaller stadiums (30k-40k). Wrestlers care about these things too, they want to perform on the biggest stage and feel like they’re big time.

@TheTruth-mv7hm

Жыл бұрын

Aew isn't popular like that

@sebastianvella8992

Жыл бұрын

I like AEW, however they should have a cruiserweight division and their champion and his main opponents must be bigger. Maybe when Wardlow is better trained and has honed his in ring abilities better he can become the main man, but then you need to have big men as his opponents like Cesaro, Keith Lee, Luchasaurus, Hager (who should be better utilised). Maybe bring some bigger men to the company even if it is just for a few months to feud with your main man. Such man could be Paul Wight(Bigshow) or Braun Strauman. As good a wrestler as Punk is or Moxley or Omega or Page or MJF they cannot compare with the main men in WWE in terms of size. I mean nobody can believable think any of those four could beat Roman or Brock or Lashley or Mcintyre, however a good push and a more experienced Wardlow or Keith Lee could make for a believable AEW Champion.

@Matt-cr4vv

Жыл бұрын

I’m not sure AEW would succeed in that. From my perspective they just have never really seemed to make decisions aimed at growing a more mainstream audience. It seems a lot more like they just repackaged the existing alternate promotions under a new banner and deliver a similar product. It’s also hard because to truly keep up with everything going on you can’t just watch the show you have to dig into their KZread stuff as well. I’m not sure that strategy will ever be one that grows a casual audience to go along with their committed one. And to me that almost seems TNA-esque and how they would focus on getting everything they could from their dedicated base over trying to grow past just the dedicated base. In my opinion the dedicated base will stay there as you provide things that appeal to a wider audience. And what’s even more interesting is how much more seriously AEW is taken than TNA ever was when at their peak TNA drew double the viewing audience than AEW does. I’m worried that problem will be exacerbated further with the upcoming rights negotiations now that their network is in full cost slashing mode where previously Warner was very generous in extending them almost immediately, giving them an additional show, etc. It makes you wonder what happens to their trajectory if the network brass tries to either leave them at their current rate, or worse cancel or decline what they’re providing them. I wouldn’t think they’d cancel a show performing in the demo as AEW is but it’s always hard to say when a company goes into cost slashing mode. And if that did happen I’m sure they’d find a new network but you can’t really find a better exposure network than being on TBS/TNT which is so widely available. All that said, I want them to succeed.

@sebastianvella8992

Жыл бұрын

@@Matt-cr4vv Thanks for the info Matt. I also hope AEW and all wrestling promotions thrive as it gives all wrestling fans better options to view not only their favourite wrestlers, but also there favourite type of wrestling.

*Let's watch the 'best in the world' do a Buckshot Lariat again ;)*

How the hell does Meltzer write when he can't even finish a thought when he speaks? "It was probably, you know, and then, I mean, you know, and uh, you know, it's like, you know."

It really does feel like there’s a LOT of drama lately. I’m worried about AEW’s future honestly cause a lot of stuff has been coming out, and that’s only the stuff we know about. Then you got WWE which is thriving right now. Hopefully it all gets resolved

@thewindozer

Жыл бұрын

Dude you keep saying WWE is thriving it's been like 3 weeks dude I haven't watched it at all I am not interested in that product they insulted intelligence of the viewers for 20 years 3 weeks is not going to make that okay guys I'm sorry you must have short memories

@staticcharm3808

Жыл бұрын

WWE isn't "thriving". Same numbers Vince was getting. Also there is no drama. The wrestling media need clicks so they are creating drama. Meanwhile AEW will get ratings from it.

@TheRealJayTim

Жыл бұрын

@@staticcharm3808 Yes, wrestling news sites need more traffic, so wrestling companies are being generous enough to orchestrate drama behind the scenes so they get more views on KZread and clicks on their website. You solved it

@TheRealJayTim

Жыл бұрын

@@thewindozer It’s okay if you’re not interested in their product. Neither am I honestly. But please stop yelling at me on KZread about it 😂

@ChurchOfTUPAC

Жыл бұрын

@@thewindozer totally agree with u on what u said there.