'Dispiriting day for Special Counsel Jack Smith': SCOTUS considers Trump immunity claim
The Supreme Court heard oral arguments in former president Trump's immunity claim. While they will ultimately decide whether or not former President Trump can be tried for plotting to overturn the 2020 election, they spent the day debating the distinction between personal and official acts. Katie Phang discusses with Peter Baker, Mark Joseph Stern, Josh Gerstein and Joyce Vance.
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It spoke volumes that they felt comfortable talking about how their decision may potentially weigh on future presidencies but felt uncomfortable talking about the case in hand!
@fashe55
11 күн бұрын
Yep
@Chulitatr
9 күн бұрын
...... Everything tRump is accused of doing; his lawyers are arguing should be legal. How can the SCOTUS GOP judges NOT consider the facts of the Trump crimes at the hearing, but make a ruling on the hypothetical basis when the facts and laws are right in their faces? The SCOTUS decision should be a unanimous NO, a president does NOT have absolute immunity. The GOP appointed SCOTUS justices are an 'imminent' threat to the constitution and democracy.
This is absurd. We already rejected a king.
@aspenrebel
11 күн бұрын
King Donald I.
@hellohsjkanhdhdhdbksks
11 күн бұрын
What do you think , can we prosecute ex presidents for crimes
@Tessmage_Tessera
11 күн бұрын
@@hellohsjkanhdhdhdbksks Of course we can. We already are.
@markg4257
11 күн бұрын
@@aspenrebel careful with that blade. Bush charged with lying, Obama charged with murder, Biden charged for illegal immigrant crime. Let’s not go there as a country. Only bad.
@selftaopath
11 күн бұрын
He and all REDS want a dictator not a king.
When I didn't think I could think less of this court.
@zdwade
11 күн бұрын
You’re not a thinker.
@user-hk1xg2tr7w
11 күн бұрын
FJB the liar and criminal FTDP🔥🙏🙏🔥🔥
@fashe55
11 күн бұрын
They are scrapping the bottom of the barrel at this point.
It’s a ‘dispiriting day’ for anyone with a working moral compass.
@ThatLife4U
11 күн бұрын
Set aside biased opinion and look past TDS. That's what SCOTUS is doing
@user-hk1xg2tr7w
11 күн бұрын
And obviously you don’t have a moral compass. FJB Trump 2024
They were purposely ignoring the question because they and everybody else already knows the answer to that question
@user-hk1xg2tr7w
11 күн бұрын
Yes we all know that the democrats are salty that the demon and Treasonous liars are the democrats.
@Chulitatr
9 күн бұрын
They've been paid for by tRump and the GOP, that's why their SuperPACs, the RNCs funds are bankrupt and doesn't have money to campaign or rally now.
The Venal 6 that's what those SC justices are. 🤬🤬
@bugwar5545
11 күн бұрын
Not as bad as the alt left ones. Those can't even define a woman, even with them being one.
If justice Roberts is worried about the SCOTUS credibility, then the final verdict should be unanimous in no presidential immunity
It's not a "dispiriting day" for the Special Counsel. It is a disastrous day for the American people.
@neal5068
11 күн бұрын
No it isn't
@TheMangoMussolini
11 күн бұрын
@@neal5068 You're right. To traitors, it's a glorious day. But my statement is still correct, since traitors aren't included in the title "American people". Funny how that works, huh.
@ThatLife4U
11 күн бұрын
More than half the country disagrees and sees this case for what it is.
@TheMangoMussolini
11 күн бұрын
@@ThatLife4U More than half, huh? Proof? Yeah, thought so.
@ThatLife4U
11 күн бұрын
@@TheMangoMussolini Take the last election numbers, then subtract all the voters Biden has lost over the last 2 years. It's relatively simple math
Lucifer patiently waits for Mitch McConnell's arrival.🔥
@SteveM-gj2vy
11 күн бұрын
Lucifer exists in EVERY REPUBLICAN....it's not something in the future. Satan spirit is in every corrupt person and IT CANT BE CHANGED unless they are locked up.
@tja3495
11 күн бұрын
followed by DJT.
@Brombones2000
11 күн бұрын
@@tja3495 Not even the Devil would want Trump.
@g_4784
11 күн бұрын
@@Brombones2000 No, he would prefer Biden, the "practicing Catholic" who believes in unrestricted abortion access.
@selftaopath
11 күн бұрын
OH yea.... I can hardly wait. Hurry up Turtle.... get goin.
So then I guess it would be ok for Biden can ignore the voting and state he will be in office for 4 years
@SeattAl
9 күн бұрын
No , his plan is to import new voters from the 3 rd world and let non citizens vote
An official act carried out corruptly ought to be prosecutable. If any official decisions by any official in any sphere are, for example, subject to bribery, they are corrupt and prosecution should follow.
I kept hearing the white male judges say..." well im asking these questions for the future....not necessarily for the case before us..." seriously??? How about desling with whats before you!
@courtneybrubaker9738
11 күн бұрын
Six of them don’t want to. Thier goal is to protect Trump and replace our democracy with their Christian nationalist government. We must use our voice and vote to say NO.
@ThatLife4U
11 күн бұрын
Race has nothing to do with it, do some critical thinking race grifter
@marciabradley7660
11 күн бұрын
Maybe they are considered about their future?
@Jerry-up8bk
4 күн бұрын
Desling?or deciding or dealing?
I’m speechless, floored, blown away that SCOTUS would play footsie with notion of absolute immunity. Terrifying prospect. We’re in deep trouble as a constitutional republic. 💙🇺🇸😢
@TheAginG420
11 күн бұрын
I'm choosing to remain optimistic and believe that they are only hearing the arguments because it's an important question that needs a definitive answer in the negative. As in, hopefully, they didn't see not hearing the arguments as a way to put this to rest for good. I'm hopeful, anyway. Presidents are not immune, if they are then we are no longer a democracy. Or "constitutional republic" sure, fine.
@user-hk1xg2tr7w
11 күн бұрын
As long as the liar, loser, demonic President Joe Biden doesn’t get back in office 😂😂
@RegebroRepairs
8 күн бұрын
@@TheAginG420 I'll be surprised if they even make a decision before the election.
@landon2150
2 күн бұрын
If you watch the oral arguments yourself it’s very plain to see that this reporting is a misrepresentation of the arguments and line of questioning. I’d recommend watching it yourself if possible. Both sides agreed total immunity was not the solution. It ended up being an argument about the process of holding a president accountable for criminal acts. One said he needs to be impeached first for a criminal proceeding to happen, the other said the current justice system can handle it without any additional precedent. Both sides agreed there are certain core presidential responsibilities and official acts that can’t be criminalized. The issue comes from the distinction of what “official acts” as president can’t be criminalized. Since a lower court already ruled there is no such “immunity” the Supreme Court now must rule either to confirm that, deny it, or somewhere in the middle. It’s going to be somewhere in the middle, which is why there was so much discussion surrounding the distinction between what a president does under his core powers as president and what he does personally or in some other capacity. Both sides had different interpretations of where that line should be drawn. Neither was saying the president is allowed to break the law without any way of holding him accountable.
Dispiriting day for all Americans who treasure democracy.
You can lead boldly and fearlessly without breaking the law.
Have we forgotten which “justices” are benefiting from the big money folks?! Speaks loudly to me!
Trump isn't arguing there should be "some type of immunity for Presidents". He is arguing that a President has absolute immunity.
@Chulitatr
9 күн бұрын
////.. Everything tRump is accused of doing; his lawyers are arguing should be legal. How can the SCOTUS GOP judges NOT consider the facts of the Trump crimes at the hearing, but make a ruling on the hypothetical basis when the facts and laws are right in their faces? The SCOTUS decision should be a unanimous NO, a president does NOT have absolute immunity. The GOP appointed SCOTUS justices are an 'imminent' threat to the constitution and democracy.
Avoiding the QUESTION at hand aka CORRUPT & INCOMPETENT.
All righty! Let’s gooo, President Joe Biden, get ready to go CRAZY I guess!
@bigneiltoo
11 күн бұрын
Biden going crazy would be called redundant.
@DioZaWorldo
11 күн бұрын
@@bigneiltooyeah but soon he can do whatever he wants, immunity baybeeee
@COLDB33R
11 күн бұрын
To be fair, Biden swore an oath to defend the constitution against ALL enemies, foreign AND DOMESTIC. If those domestic enemies happen to be sitting on the Supreme Court, and put there by an illegitimate president who only gained office with the aid of foreign enemies, so be it. He has still sworn an oath to go after them, and he should abide by that oath.
@benhunter8551
11 күн бұрын
"My Butts Been Wiped!"
@benhunter8551
11 күн бұрын
He passed that stage years ago.
We need SCOTUS term limits NOW!
@Nothinleft
11 күн бұрын
This is a gross misjustice and I agree with you. Its absolutely garbage to hear this.
@jeffhampton2767
11 күн бұрын
Marjorie Taylor Greene for the Supreme Court❤
@mkay3310
11 күн бұрын
That would require a Constitutional Amendment. Why not just stack the court? If there's a blue wave in 2024 and dems hold 50% of both houses and the White House, they could stack the Court to allow Biden to add more justices to the court. For example, they could double the court's size and Biden would have the ability to appoint a bunch of liberal justices. This would be easier than getting the 2/3 of both houses and 3/4 of all states necessary for an amendment to set term limits.
@bugwar5545
11 күн бұрын
Right after you get congressional term limits. And Real ID voter laws.
@wooganotti
11 күн бұрын
Good luck with that We can't get those for senators or congressman.. I mean hello pelosi, McConnell, Graham, and Schumer.. The people who have ruined this country for 40 years
Imagine a political party that wants to take away a person's freedom of speech just because that person belongs to a different political party.
@benhunter8551
11 күн бұрын
Don't have to, we're witnessing it in real time.
@dlewis895
11 күн бұрын
SC SUPPORTING PUTINS RULE OF LAW NO JUSTICE RULE LIKE PUTIN WITH ANY OPPONENTS IE NAVALNY
@aspenrebel
11 күн бұрын
Ah yeah!! Here in Mass, one such party locked up an Investigative reporter for 60 days for his freedom of speech. Then tried to lock him up again indefinitely on a dangerousness hearing. But the judge said no.
@cowtownokla
11 күн бұрын
Freedom of speech doesn't insulate a person from freedom of consequences.
@LifeFruit-re7mj
11 күн бұрын
It’s 10x more nuanced than that
What are OFFICIAL duties and unofficial duties? How does this apply to immunity for Presidents?
@bigneiltoo
11 күн бұрын
The President WRITES laws. He is on par with Congress and SCOTUS even though he is ONE MAN (see balance of power). The President can PARDON HIMSELF. It's implied whatever he does is legal.
@heyaisdabomb
11 күн бұрын
Well clearly, the justices think his "official duty" was to reject the electoral count, overthrow the election, and instill himself as dictator.
@TriggaTrey361
11 күн бұрын
It's just a loophole to give immunity to their King 👑
@TheMangoMussolini
11 күн бұрын
In fairness, there are differences. It would take a treatise to fully explain it, but it would be very useful to listen to the arguments presented by Mr. Dreeban (counsel for the Special Counsel) during oral arguments. However, that entire premise is wide of the point. The case in question has nothing to do about "official and unofficial duties", but the Conservatives on the Court MADE it about that. The only issue before the Court is the question of whether an ex-president can be criminally prosecuted for crimes. They are determined to carve out an exception for Baby Hitler.
@ThatLife4U
11 күн бұрын
Official duties are done under the presidency and unofficial is done in a personal capacity. Not having clear cut points is why SCOTUS will send it down to the appeals court to identify which are which. Accept that this won't be settled by November
🗣️ we need to be honest with ourselves the Supreme Court is outdated
@benhunter8551
11 күн бұрын
True. We need far-left SJWs to decide what the law is.
A Dispiriting Day for the whole of the USA, I would think!
As I have always said, Roberts is tje weakest Chief I have seen and read!!!
This ruling does not only effect Donald J Trump. It will effect every SINGLE president in our future. Get out of the present and look at the big picture.
@bigneiltoo
11 күн бұрын
Liberals have spent 10 years of "two minutes hate" from 1984. They can ONLY see Trump bad.
@Tcb0835
11 күн бұрын
@@bigneiltoo😂😂😂
@Educated2Extinction
11 күн бұрын
But... but... if Trump wins in November, there won't be a future.😫 🤣
@AmusedCoffee-ym3gb
11 күн бұрын
Which is why they won't throw the book at him.
@iPsychlops
11 күн бұрын
Yeah. Future fascists will get away without accountability.
This is the problem with politicians selecting judges. If they rule a president is immune then good luck for the future, you’ll need it.
That's RIDICULOUS for any judge having to define a crime for the SC, if they don't know the answer they shouldn't be on the SC!
It was amazing that SCOTUS entertained all sorts of ridiculous hypotheticals for immunity yet destroyed Roe v Wade without regard to the real medical situations that women face. Their consideration for women’s reproductive health, on the side of the men, didn’t even really face real issues let alone hypotheticals. The mental gymnastics that were performed by Gorsuch, Alito et al yesterday was ridiculous. If SCOTUS doesn’t understand corruptly, private, how do we expect any accountability? How did they ever practice law before? Thank goodness for Justices Jackson, Kagan, Sotomayor and Barrett. They stuck to the case at hand and the reality of the highest ranked official in the land having no accountability. Thank you, ladies.
@Chulitatr
9 күн бұрын
Excellent post. Everything tRump is accused of doing; his lawyers are arguing should be legal. How can the SCOTUS GOP judges NOT consider the facts of the Trump crimes at the hearing, but make a ruling on the hypothetical basis when the facts and laws are right in their faces? The SCOTUS decision should be a unanimous NO, a president does NOT have absolute immunity. The GOP appointed SCOTUS justices are an 'imminent' threat to the constitution and democracy.
@Jack_Callcott_AU
9 күн бұрын
OK Debbie. The court rejected the concept that there is a right to an abortion in, or implied by the US Constitution, that is a past judgement that has waited for a long time to be fixed. From a legal point of view it was the right thing to do, at least by my estimation. In the long run it is better than judges deciding that there exists "an inalienable right to abortion." What if a woman in labour wants an abortion an hour before her child will be delivered. Does she have an inalienable right to an abortion derived from the constitution?
This is what happens when you make up a fake case and choke
@TheAginG420
11 күн бұрын
The case is real, otherwise SCOTUS wouldn't even hear it. By that alone your statement is false.
The fix is in this democracy is cooked
Remember when the Republican party respected law and order, the Constitution and American values?
@josephsonora3787
11 күн бұрын
WHEN FjoeB's "P-ed-0-filia" TRIAL? I'M ASKING FOR A FRIEND NAMED ASHLEY BIDEN.
@BlackVulpes
11 күн бұрын
no, it was always just aesthetics. This is why we're here now.
@dark14life
11 күн бұрын
No.
@Lawlzinator
11 күн бұрын
Remember when the democrat party didn't go seeking wars and put the rights of corporations (like pharma companies) above the rights of American citizens?
@ricksterbobolishious7523
11 күн бұрын
TRUMP. How does seeing that name make you feel?
4:19 The Leo Leonard/Heritage Foundation chosen judges hands are tied by undue influences that are a burden to the court
Country of law 😂😂😂 No one above the law 😂😂😂 Nothing more than incompetent and bought clowns in robes. A mockery of justice. Wake up folks.
It is not just a "notion" that this court is captured by the Leonard Leo and his gang of pirate oligarchs.
Turn out the lights the party is over…
@TheAginG420
10 күн бұрын
Justice is slow. The odds are very much against trump avoiding any punishment whatsoever. Just give it some time. We'll see.
@Chulitatr
9 күн бұрын
...... Everything tRump is accused of doing; his lawyers are arguing should be legal. How can the SCOTUS GOP judges NOT consider the facts of the Trump crimes at the hearing, but make a ruling on the hypothetical basis when the facts and laws are right in their faces? The SCOTUS decision should be a unanimous NO, a president does NOT have absolute immunity. The GOP appointed SCOTUS justices are an 'imminent' threat to the constitution and democracy.
SCOTUS is broken.
@kaypakaipa8559
11 күн бұрын
No its perfect, Upholding democracy to a T
@Educated2Extinction
11 күн бұрын
Like when they refused to even hear any of Trump's election challenges? Or maybe they're just broken when they don't toe the line drawn by the left.
@palehorse24681
11 күн бұрын
No it's not...its working fine. You're whole life is stupid so you're projecting onto other things.
@tja3495
11 күн бұрын
Traitors
@bugwar5545
11 күн бұрын
Yeah, but as soon as they get rid of the far left 'can't define a woman' justices, it will be a lot better.
The conservative justices sounded like they were arguing the defense team’s case for them. Trump thanked them…
because they are not interested in doing anything but allowing trump to stall them
As a country, we are so f'ed. 😢
@bugwar5545
11 күн бұрын
Yeah, but with this decision, we are finally turning it towards the light. MAGA now! MAGA forever!
@RegebroRepairs
11 күн бұрын
And as leaders of the democratic world, the world is as well.
@WeLuv9x5
11 күн бұрын
IKR? How much more damage can We The People take with Biden!?! 🇺🇸Trump 2024🇺🇸
@markg4257
11 күн бұрын
Biden read PAUSE on the teleprompter. Your worried about Trump?
@RegebroRepairs
11 күн бұрын
@@markg4257 Yeah. Because Biden, best case, will be a good president, and worst case, he'll go senile and Kamala has to take over, and she'll be okayish. Trump, best case, will be a repeat of the worst president ever. And worst case, it will destroy US democracy. So stop worrying about Biden going senile, that's not an actual problem.
You mean follow the Constitution.
@aspenrebel
11 күн бұрын
Phooey!! That doesn't mean anything.
@Xcross40
11 күн бұрын
It’s never been done.
@Tessmage_Tessera
11 күн бұрын
@@Xcross40 We're doing it now.
@ClassicFIHD
8 күн бұрын
@@aspenrebel TRUE! To the three constitution hating liberals it means nothing.
@aspenrebel
8 күн бұрын
@@ClassicFIHD of course not. But liberal is the wrong term to use, they're socialist globalists.
Supreme Court, you are losing credibility with everyone
@mtorres3097
11 күн бұрын
Why because it didn’t go your way?
@christihanyi5538
11 күн бұрын
@@mtorres3097 I'd try to explain why if I thought you capable of understanding, but I conclude that would be a waste of my time.
The criticisms re: the lack of focus on Trump specifically in the arguments is ridiculous. The question addresses whether presidents in general should have some form of immunity against criminal prosecution, and that is a sweeping legal question that applies to all presidents in the future. Of course you can’t decide that just in regard to Trump, it has to be carefully thought about in the context of its potential future impact.
@selftaopath
11 күн бұрын
Fart will do anything to avoid accountability.... ANYTHING.
@terryhildrum3365
11 күн бұрын
Until now it was never a question, every president knew he could be held accountable for criminal actions. Now that's a big debate? Of course, the 6/9 SCOTUS majority members are also criminal and corrupt, so no surprise.
Plotting and Planning. you have got to be kidding. Guess you did not get your way.
Trump isn’t even saying he committed a crime. All he is saying is what was always common sense until Trump derangement syndrome in 2015.
@jeffmisch1485
11 күн бұрын
You mean MAGA.
@BrianWeber-gt4ho
11 күн бұрын
No president has EVER had 100% immunity for life ever......
@aspenrebel
11 күн бұрын
It has already been proven that Biden as vice president, took home classified documents after he stopped being Vice President. Has he been charged, indicted, arrested, prosecuted, and tried?
@g_4784
11 күн бұрын
I'm confused as to why Trump's making the 'presidential immunity' argument instead of pointing out that he never actually committed a crime.
@britishrocklovingyank3491
11 күн бұрын
What other president had to use immunity?
Thank You for sharing that Memorial provided by the Head of the World Central Kitchen. All they wanted to do was to feed hungry People that none of them knew or ever would! He reminded us that we are all interconnected w/ each other & this entire Planet! We live together in Peace or we all die ALL alone! Is it really worth it!
MSNBC and CNN are the only people that believe in unscheduled capital tour was an insurrection..😂😂😂😂😂
@tmayorca8770
11 күн бұрын
Ikr, the second lefty commenter was quick with the false information saying it was an insurrection. The host of course did not confront him about the lie. Imagine a conservative guest claiming there was no insurrection. You'd know for sure probably the host would jump all over that.
@g_4784
11 күн бұрын
@@tmayorca8770 I have yet to hear an actual precise definition of "insurrection" from these people that isn't overly broad and doesn't rely on circular logic.
It is no longer the SCOTUS we once knew. It's now the SCOTFS - SC of the federalist society. Follow the money.
@tmayorca8770
11 күн бұрын
Lol. You are misinformation. Three are liberals. You big mad since the 9-0 TRUMP VICTORIOUS SLAM DUNK SCOTUS DECISION
This lispy soyboy hasn’t made a single point
@IvanPowell-dt6vb
11 күн бұрын
That’s what I’m saying
@KJamesB
11 күн бұрын
Another Magat
Supreme Court Justices……eyes wide shut….America your in trouble…..
@bugwar5545
11 күн бұрын
Supreme court justices ... eyes open and mind engaged ... America you're doing better.
We've got to stop Trump at all costs. We must make up more charges and hope they stick, and if they don't we'll blame everyone we can, just like we're blaming the Supreme Court. Go Biden 2024!!
Alan Dershowitz predicted a unanimous 9-0 ruling for President Trump against the states trying to take off the ballot. He was correct! He is also predicting a 6-3 victory for President Trump in the immunity case. He has also said that msnbc, cnn and the other media experts have ALL been wrong in all of these court cases and calls them a JOKE!!! 😂😂😂
@tja3495
11 күн бұрын
Who?
@tmayorca8770
11 күн бұрын
Probably a 7-2 or even 8-1 victory. Even democrats don't want the president or future president arrested for being president
@nathanb7281
11 күн бұрын
I hope he’s right! Then Biden can imprison Trump and encourage people to storm the Supreme Court or maybe even your house, Cletus!
@aspenrebel
11 күн бұрын
Cuz They just following orders.
@jazuren2585
11 күн бұрын
So then that means that Biden will have immunity. You want that?
I hope Biden and Obama and Clinton and Bush are ready to go to trial for their criminal cases.😅
A criminal act, regardless of whether it's official or private, is still a criminal act. The president has the best legal minds in the country at his disposal, so he/she should never do something that would be considered illegal. 18 U.S. Code § 2385 - Advocating overthrow of Government is plain in its text and meaning.
@TheAginG420
11 күн бұрын
Well said.
Sickening
Wake up America. This could be the end of good times.
@xNialx
11 күн бұрын
They already passed a while back... its now a matter of damage control.
@ScanCruiser
11 күн бұрын
Good times ended exactly one year into President Walking Dead's regime.
@g_4784
11 күн бұрын
That we have ever seen good times since 2020 is quite the statement...
@ThatLife4U
11 күн бұрын
Can you honestly say your life and the world is better now than 5 years ago? I doubt that you can
The meltdown is hilarious 😂
What is to consider ?? What is their purpose ? SCotUS , do your job ! Regardless of whom you bow to.
I believe that the Supreme Court Justices should have a term limit. Additionally, I propose that the Supreme Court Justices should be elected by the people, rather than being appointed by the President. This would allow for greater accountability and transparency in the selection process. Furthermore, if any Justices are found to be corrupt, they can be voted out of office. In this way, we can ensure that the Supreme Court remains an impartial and just institution.
@tmayorca8770
11 күн бұрын
That's hilarious. That's not how it works at all.
@nathanb7281
11 күн бұрын
I believe they should have watched Weekend at Bernie’s before the replacement of Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
@nathanb7281
11 күн бұрын
@@tmayorca8770That’s why he was expressing it as an opinion, Cletus.
@tmayorca8770
11 күн бұрын
@@nathanb7281 And he's still wrong. Junior.
@nathanb7281
11 күн бұрын
@@tmayorca8770 You’re opinion is wrong, Cletus. 🤣 Guess what else. If the Supreme Court determines that the President has immunity for everything. Biden could have Trump imprisoned and steal the next election. 🤣
Another one bites the dust!😂😂😂
We are going to have a hearing on Jan6th and Trump’s role in it. It’s scheduled for November 2024. I hear we are calling it an election.
@g_4784
11 күн бұрын
Is this supposed to imply that most American voters are going to have J6 actively on their minds at the ballot box? Because nobody cares anymore.
@TheAginG420
11 күн бұрын
He shouldn't be even allowed to run, period.
@g_4784
11 күн бұрын
@@TheAginG420 Why
@TheAginG420
11 күн бұрын
@@g_4784 Because he represents the worst that America has to offer as president. Because he tried to overthrow our democracy when he couldn't stand losing. Because he's a vengeful, petty, hateful man who doesn't care about anyone but himself. I could go on..
The 'conservative" Justices have done us a favor: they've effectively announced that the plot to replace Democracy is nationwide and deep, they're cheering it on, and they expect it to work.
Well Biden then in an official act as president can assinate Trump and the conservative part of the supreme court for the sake of democracy oh well do what you need to do Biden
He got away with it. It will all be legal.
@bugwar5545
11 күн бұрын
Well, that saves Brandon from being arrested by Texas and Florida for him leading an illegal invasion of the U.S.
@paulworth7638
11 күн бұрын
got away with what?
@g_4784
11 күн бұрын
@@paulworth7638 He got away with [dubious crime based on lacking evidence and a specious legal theory], of course!
Biden to Seal Team Six: "Stand by for orders. The Orange Menace is the primary target. SCOTUS is secondary."
@kenc7120
11 күн бұрын
Wow look at the party of unity calling for violence against those that don’t align with them.
@kenc7120
11 күн бұрын
The tolerant left. 🤣
@tejanoj3017
11 күн бұрын
No. Do it simultaneously like in The Godfather.
@PrinceOtter
11 күн бұрын
@kenc7120 you are the party of "1488" - you should pipe down about tolerance
@dianaprince3176
11 күн бұрын
@@kenc7120If they’re going to give lifetime blanket criminal immunity to all living presidents, why wouldn’t they use it?
SOTUS needs term limits like everyone else. Let's start with getting Clarence Thomas out first. His time is up.
Why does the logic stop at President? Wouldn't Secretary of State, Senators, or even a Mayor have immunity too? They have to act boldlyand could become the victim of politically motivated prosecutions.
They don't even try to hide their corruption. That's an indication of how untouchable they consider themselves to be. And most of them should have recused themselves from a case involving the person who put them on the court. Disgraceful.
The only thing disgusting is the first male guest has the most fascist views. He’s no American he’s a threat
@bugwar5545
11 күн бұрын
Yep, Democrats firmly believe that following the constitution is a threat to America.
10:30 she has no authority to declare unofficial acts only congress can through impeachment.
Establishing what defines official vs personal acts would not be a bad thing, in this case and for future reference, however.
@JimHaney-uc9ps
11 күн бұрын
For trump anything will be official, that’s what the sc wants for trump.
@RegebroRepairs
11 күн бұрын
There has already been cases on this, so it's already established.
@TheAginG420
11 күн бұрын
We already know what a president's official acts should be. The president has the power to direct limited military action and the power to veto bills and propose legislation. That's pretty much the extent of it. Anything a president does that involves their ability to persuade/influence because of their position does not fall under "official duties" as that power only comes from the position, itself. Asking for dirt to be dug up on his opponent, interfering with the election on a state and federal level, those things were him using his position to influence others. In no job is that an "official" act, unless you are a king. Then everything you do is official. IMO, he's already lost this argument, but I guess we will see.
@DanaAgenbroad-pw4zw
11 күн бұрын
@@TheAginG420 Then why are they arguing about it? Common sense would dictate the difference in most cases.
@TheAginG420
11 күн бұрын
@@DanaAgenbroad-pw4zw Not sure your point. It's common sense to me what is an official act and what's not, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be clarified for the rest.
A man who committed zero felonies all of the sudden committed 93? And an insurrection? Pleeeeezee!
@heyaisdabomb
11 күн бұрын
He's committed crimes his whole life, just the rich play by a different book. Seriously, look into his realastate dealings. He's been doing this mark it up for bank loans and mark it down for taxes for decades. Can't buy a property for 9 million, say it's worth 80 million to a bank, and then say it's worth $800,000 for taxes. Yes, he did that. And yes, the victim who was hurt was us, the tax payer who missed out on the taxes he should have been paying. Not a victimless crime.
@David-qn8ot
11 күн бұрын
@@heyaisdabomb you gotta address your TDS…. Do your best to treat it. Everyone loved Trump till he became president. You probably watched his show and laughed and loved him. Now, just like crazy liberals, you changed your tune.
@David-qn8ot
11 күн бұрын
@@heyaisdabomb you are so naive. Every real estate investor operates the same way. It’s the banks obligation to value a property just like when anybody buys a house. The bank made money. If you don’t think it’s political then you are just lying to yourself. Hopefully, you aren’t that duped by MSNBC.
@Tessmage_Tessera
11 күн бұрын
@@David-qn8ot No matter what you think, no matter what you say and no matter what you do, Trump is going to prison. MAGA is too weak to stop us. _But please try._
@mtorres3097
11 күн бұрын
@@heyaisdabombexplain how politicians become millionaires on a government salary.
I thought you had to Logical to be a Supreme Court Justice?
@annakingry9157
11 күн бұрын
And be American? And believe in democracy instead of fascism?
@user-tm4pz3we6w
11 күн бұрын
Can you define what a woman is?
@bugwar5545
11 күн бұрын
Nah, Jackson proved it ain't needed.
@tmayorca8770
11 күн бұрын
They are and that's why they sided with Trump in the 9-0 SLAM DUNK decision in Trump's favor. Not even close. Liberal justices agreed with Trump too. Slam DUNK
@nathanb7281
11 күн бұрын
@@user-tm4pz3we6wI think you meant this for Google.
Thank you Joyce Vance for the light of hope in seeing the treasonous acts brought to light, and hopefully justice..
I firmly believe our nation has fallen. There is no coming back.
The president is an upholder of the law. Not held over the law. Every grammar school kid knows that. 🤡
Sad. Democracy downfalls, history will not be kind. America deserves better! If you get the chance,VOTE Blue
@davidrothstein5664
11 күн бұрын
Nfw
@bugwar5545
11 күн бұрын
Don't bother. Brandon's handlers have the 3 a.m. ballot dumps already printed.
@user-zc5nb2fv7q
11 күн бұрын
What good has it done to vote Blue ? The last 5 years has been a disaster! We are not better off with the green new deal or build back better bidenomics!
@TheAginG420
11 күн бұрын
Oh yeh, I'm with ya. If the only way we can stop this madness is to vote, I guess so be it.
Who's the second man who spoke (the one with the beard)? He seems emotional and not grasping the big picture.
God forbid a scotus judge not know what a word really means..... Like the word woman
SUPREME CLOWNS HELPING CLOWN IN CHIEF
@ULTIMATUMDEVIL
11 күн бұрын
YOUR DAD WEARS MAKEUP? 😮
@Iammusprase384
11 күн бұрын
@@ULTIMATUMDEVIL YOURS WEAR SHEETS AND RIDES DOGS
@williamstroud5449
11 күн бұрын
Former clown
@endthegenocideingaza
11 күн бұрын
@@ULTIMATUMDEVIL
@ULTIMATUMDEVIL
11 күн бұрын
@@endthegenocideingaza BETA. PRESS NEWEST AND READ
The 5 conservative justices were doing all they could to avoid the question, and muddy the waters. It's clear what they are doing (delay), and what they will do (give Trump what he wants).
@alexwalker5645
11 күн бұрын
And what about the “non-conservative” judges?
@bigneiltoo
11 күн бұрын
If only it was like NYC whose point is (give fat women what she wants).
@benhunter8551
11 күн бұрын
@@alexwalker5645 They were still trying to figure out what a woman is.
If trump becomes president and has immunity, he could have the entire SC executive legally.
@rebeccasmith8567
11 күн бұрын
??
@junecauldwell6192
11 күн бұрын
Executed? Is that what you meant?
@bigneiltoo
11 күн бұрын
No, he would be impeached like you did TWICE over phone calls and comments.
@tmayorca8770
11 күн бұрын
You have three liberals on the court
@nathanb7281
11 күн бұрын
He may not become President because Biden could just say no and imprison him. 🤣
This question is easily answerable. The 12th Amendment requires state legislatures to assign electors. If there is a matter before the legislature, Free Petition under the 1st Amendment, excepting quid pro quo, applies. Trump exercised a well-established Constitutional Right, and that is not a crime. Simple!
"An insurrection at the Capitol," that didn't happen.
What a great day!
You’re attacking the Court because they don’t agree with you is disgusting. You seem willing to destroy anyone or anything to have your way.
@TheAginG420
11 күн бұрын
Having an opinion is an attack? Seems to me that if things don't go your way, you will likely be the one "attacking"
Thanks Katie ❤❤❤❤❤.
IMHO.....It will be a 5-4 ruling in favor of immunity,
Bye Trump, Biden 2024 🫂
@muddywater4505
11 күн бұрын
In denial, much ?
@tomerhuss
11 күн бұрын
@@muddywater4505 I am real, I am not delusional
@josephsonora3787
11 күн бұрын
TomerHuss, I think your brain is 0ut 0f 0rder homegirl! 😂
@jeffhampton2767
11 күн бұрын
PRESIDENT TRUMP WINNING ❤
@endthegenocideingaza
11 күн бұрын
@@josephsonora3787
All your big words Reporters don't mean nothing .
@ngtony2969
11 күн бұрын
Maybe you should finish learning small words first so you can at least construct a complete sentence.
@davidg3944
11 күн бұрын
@@ngtony2969 They don't have any competent teachers left at the Russian propagandist schools. They've all been sent to the meat grinder in Ukraine.
@TheAginG420
11 күн бұрын
"You say big words, you make fun of grunk?"
Exactly what illegal acts does the Constitution say the president is allowed to commit after taking the oath "to faithfully execute the laws". How is committing an illegal act faithfully executing laws? We know that the military is not required to follow a president's orders if he orders them to commit an act that violates their oath. The suggestion by the right wing that presidents need to have the right to break the law with impunity is exactly what kings and dictators are allowed to do. Why bother with a revolution in 1776? Why bother having a Supreme Court sitting in Washington? Should have just allowed British courts to continue to rule on orders of the Parliament and king on cases in America, if that's the system they want. Which side would Alito, Thomas, Kavanaugh, Roberts and Gorsuch have been on in 1776? Well, Thomas might have been a slave, who would have argued that slavery actually helped him, as Gov. DeSantis does, but I think we know where the others would have come down.
I listened to the entire 2.5 hours of oral arguments and questioning for the presidential immunity case. It’s very disappointing to hear such misrepresentation of the arguments. This is bad and very biased reporting. Both sides agreed the president is bound to the law, the question was how he should be allowed to be held accountable. One side said through the process of impeachment and then criminal proceedings, the other said through the current justice system without a new precedent. Both conceded there were distinctions about how criminal law could be applied to the president for acts as president. There was a lot of common ground in the arguments. The justices also leaned into a vague general architecture for their questioning not applying it to this particular case alone, and didn’t even mention January 6 (they did use a protest the president participated in as an example). Please go watch the full arguments if you don’t want crap from news outlets like this one.
My son turns 18 in October. He's so excited to get to vote for Trump!
@brandikolasa6305
11 күн бұрын
🤢🤢🤢🤢
@panicmosem5969
11 күн бұрын
Good for him.
@TheAginG420
11 күн бұрын
And I'm sure you indoctrinated him into believing he should, otherwise he'd disappoint you, right?
Politicized 😂oh pls the white house has been trying to persecutee their opponent, the justices are looking at these people like they’re crazy.
@davidg3944
11 күн бұрын
No, we're looking at you like you're crazy. Unless you're a foreign agent. Then you're just a fool working for evil governments.
@sheilaboston7051
11 күн бұрын
You need to have a little word with all the Grand Juries that proposed the indictments - five to date, I believe, including the civil trial for fraud.
@TheAginG420
11 күн бұрын
Get out of my face with that. trump literally used his presidency to try to dig up dirt on Biden. Heard him on tape. You got something like that out of the White House or are you just speculating? Yeah, speculating, that's what I thought.
SC ….BS…bought and paid for …
IT WAS A CIRCUS TO PLEASE ONE AUDIENCE. UNBELIEVABLE.
You're news reporting is drivil!
Jamie Raskin is completely correct. SCOTUS is not supposed to be partisan or political. And as a bonus, might uphold the law!
@benhunter8551
11 күн бұрын
Ratskin is of the rat family. But he acts more like a weasel.
And so did the liberal judges
Lets get Paloise in court with the Videos !! That will prove what happened !!!!!!!!!Paloise theatered that insurrection Videos. Treason she will have !!!!