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@fostena

9 ай бұрын

Happy to join your Patreon 😊. Amazing work

Thank you, Ray Mona, for letting Marlene talk about her work with The Center for Learning Unlimited! It's amazing, and important, to see voices of neurodiverse people being amplified in entertainment ❤

@marlenesharp3515

9 ай бұрын

Thank YOU!

@lordlilith1715

9 ай бұрын

Yeah, I never knew such a program existed and for neurodiverse adults, too. A lot of times people forget we exist. As a neurodivergent artist, I think I might just investigate whether I could be compatible with this program. So thank you for including that portion of the interview, Ray, and thank you Marlene for revealing the program's existence!

@superzigzagoon

9 ай бұрын

@@lordlilith1715 Reminds me of NonPareil which was similar but educated neurodivergent people in video game making skills.

The ending with Frank being so excited was amazing.

Yo, wake up! RayMona is back!

I had no idea The Center for Learning Unlimited existed. Speaking as someone on the spectrum who has been employed at the same company for 12 years and knowing just how hard it is for people like myself to find and stick with a job, it brings a tear to my eye to know that programs like this exist. I know it's only tangentially related to the overall video (which is wonderful, as usual) but I'm so glad that you allowed it to be spotlighted. The whole community is so thankful.

Goddamn I want Ray to take Frank to a anime convention 😭

@MariusKennedy

8 ай бұрын

Me too.

It really is mind boggling how your investigation into Saban Moon uncovered this massive rabbit hole of lost media.

There is absolutely no way you're under 100k subs. That's CRIMINAL. This has been ASTOUNDING.

@RayMona

9 ай бұрын

Ahh thank you!! Spread the word about the doc for visibility!!😁❤

That sailor Venus doll is about $300

32:57 god I wish my university had something like this. As an animation student who is on the spectrum, I barely received any help and in fact they fucked up so badly I didn't even get to do all my courses, so I don't actually know how to use the program I have a degree in and have spent the past five years slowly teaching MYSELF.

Weighing in as a fashion doll collector - 20:16 that's Splash 'n Colour Christie - and at 22:26 that's Teresa from the same line. Barbie might be Valentine Fun judging by time period/lip colour/slimbox dolls 22:50 that's another Splash 'n Colour Teresa and that might be 1997 Back to School Barbie (AA) 23:45 those look almost Jem doll sized, they're nearly 1/3 scale o.o 24:00 that's Beauty Change Sailor Venus, from 1996 (when Stars was airing)!

Holy cow, what a cliffhanger! Frank's hidden passion for this stuff has kinda blindsided me.

Oh man, I am so ready for an old man with no fucks left to give dishing on his viewpoint. This is no longer documentary work. This is setting down history (however petty, it still is) for future archaeologists. My wish for you is that in 500 years, you will be a noted recorder of the era.

NEW TALES OF THE LOST JUST DROPPED i just wanna say as a longtime fan of yours that i really appreciate all the hard work you put into these. know that they do not go unappreciated and that you’re a refreshing face amongst lost media excavators. i love seeing black woman thrive so i only hope you get to continue to do what you love and flourish through it. here’s to you, raven. ^_^ 💚

The easily best part of this was when Frank Ward unleashed his super saiyan mode when you mentionned Starstorm in that email :D

Another tour de force tale of the lost! Thanks for letting me be part of your mind-blowing preservation project!

@leoromero795

9 ай бұрын

She's my friend alright!

Considering how poorly they market modern Sailor Moon outside of Japan i.e. Cosmos, I can't believe I'm typing this: THANK GOD FOR TOEI. Thank god they didn't allow the Americans to butcher the masterpiece that is the original Sailor Moon. I would never fallen in love with the characters, the show or anime itself if it was turned into a Power Rangers type abomination. Thank you Ray Mona for showing us this "What If?". I am truly grateful.

This is incredible! I don't miss anything relating to Frank Ward, I'd really like one day to be able to see all the what ifs in those archived pilots for all sorts of animation shows, who wouldn't?

@ligeiasiren4290

9 ай бұрын

It truly is such a fascinating thing.

I feel so conflicted - like, you feel for all the people who worked on these projects that never got seen, but if their projects hadn't failed to get produced, anime as a style would likely not have made the leap to Western markets. How many Western shows have since been inspired by Sailor Moon? I feel like Toei was right to defend its animation, but I also understand Ward was trying to make something more universally appealing. In a way, he was right: Sailor Moon didn't quite reach the heights of Power Rangers in terms of U.S. marketability. But that style of animation made a lasting impact that never would have happened if Saban Moon had gone through.

@goranisacson2502

9 ай бұрын

You said it- I can get why he'd be frustrated that he missed out on what would've assuredly been a very lucrative opportunity with the "live-actionification" of all those anime, and he is right that it undoubtedly WOULD have earned them a lot to Americanize them.... but man, am I glad that not ALL of the old anime I loved were Saban'd into various levels of Power Rangers copies. Though I'm kind of wondering if the Namco Bandai execs would have wanted to take the option that would've made them the most money, or if they genuinely like their own media and respects it's uniqueness to the point that they're fine with having lost out on that money in exchange for a world where anime is just allowed to be anime.

The passion you've called forth in Frank is absolutely stunning. After all this energy, labor, and time you've put in to unearthing all these long-buried fossils, I hope that to you it *also* feels like vindication!

Wow, there were certainly a variety of twists and turns in this video I was not expecting! This is such a fascinating look into the history of Japanese media in North America. Very excited to watch the second part when it’s ready!

TOMORROW. AT. TWO!!! The way this man writes is one of the best things on the planet. He has the same energy as William Shatner, and I’m here for it.

Considering the SAG strike and what happened to many shows with the merger between Warner Brothers and Discovery last year, I really appreciate all the work you're doing - it's so valuable and I'm sure show creators/writers and artists are grateful that creators like you are keeping their work alive. I can't wait for part 2!!

I SAW "Part 1" in the title, but was still raging when the cliffhanger came up XD XD XD

I know I said this on Twitter but I have to say THANK YOU again for the shoutout!! It makes my heart so happy to know that my website was able to help you both on this journey, and I am sooooo excited for part 2!

OMG Please make a video about the search for winx club pilot. I know you can do it

Wow, surprise KaggyFilms appearance at the end

Ok, I just watched it, and that was SO interesting. Definitely they used some of their canned Dragon Ball ideas on that martial arts show, absolutely. Needless to say I'm happy that Frank failed in his attempt to convert all these properties into a north american sub-genre of media, because it would've been in detriment to the anime industry. But I do respect his passion and ambition. Clearly a man who wanted to push the industry forward. Loved the interview with Cecilia, and OMG those Team Angels dolls and sketches 🩷. Absolutely an amazing, fun, interesting watch for us nerds, as usual 💖.

It’s time for more Tales Of The Lost, and I’m ready! Love the series and can’t wait for part 2! ❤

God I cannot WAIT for the follow-up where this old man feud properly explodes. Like, do I PREFER the world that Japan Inc created, where anime remain anime instead of getting the Saban-treatment and become americanized cartoon / live-action shows? Absolutely. But I can also understand his frustration at having their pride make them pass up a very lucrative opportunity, for at that time I have no doubt that his business wisdom WAS right- if these shows had become Americanized the audience of that time would have bought them in far larger amounts. But they stuck to their guns, and the shows of yesteryear didn't become the moneymakers they could've, BUT they became far more beloved BECAUSE they weren't what you'd get from the US market at the time and inspired so many others. Japan got a WHOLE lot of soft power because of that on the worldwide stage instead of just becoming something mined by the US for them to make domestic products, and I hope the world is at least a little better because of it. I get that he's completely apart from the world of anime fandom, but I do onwder what his thoughts would be should he see the effects that Japan sticking to their guns have had on fandom in the US. Wistful that he missed out, or realizing that maybe the guys on the other side had a point? Who knows... Still totally here for the SMACKDOWN between these grouchy cartoon grandpa's though. Steel chairs, baby! I want to see steel-chairs!

That Frank Ward all caps with Quinton's voice over in the end absolutely killed me! Absolutely hilarious!! Great work Ray on your work... maybe he might know who played Sailor Venus too.

You know, I actually found your KZread channel looking at the Saban Moon Wikipedia page almost a year ago now. I must say it has become one of my favourite KZread channels. The video qualities are so amazing. You weave an amazing narrative. It's all very engaging and your passion really comes through. Thank you for all the hard work you do on these!!

Man really sent an email in all caps. What a legend.

Holy hell, if WMAC Masters really is related to Dragonball, that's going to be a wild revelation. I was a huge Dragonball fan, and something about WMAC masters just spoke to me; none of my friends watched it, it never exactly took off but I remember just being all in on it. The subconscious association that may have caused that is just insane to think about. Another banger video, miss.

Nooooo don’t end it there 😭😂 Amazing job again, Ray! Now eagerly awaiting Part 2!

Hello Ray! I'm absolutely thrilled that you're pursuing the kind of work many of us dream about. I'll never forget the moment I first discovered that Toon Maker's SM pilot was found when I was out with friends at a bar, and I saw the headline on my news feed. From that instant, I became a devoted fan of yours. Your dedication and talent are truly admirable. The latest episode of "Tales of the Lost" is a genuine gift, and I'm eagerly looking forward to part 2 and all the incredible content you'll be sharing in the days to come!

Amazing. When I read that article years ago, I somewhat feel that Cecilia missed the chance to ask Frank for that Starstorm pilot because focused only in Sailor Moon.

Incredible as always, about the prototypes of the dolls, I think that the extra shoes are not made in the wrong size but that a poseable body Barbie was used as a base, these have the largest feet and therefore in the end they ended up not being used

I love this series and how it highlights the passion behind these forgotten projects. The whole "MY NEMESIS" thing was great. Super excited for the interview!

Officially seated for this!!

Ray sure knows how to craft a cliff-hanger! I'm very intrigued by that animosity Frank alluded to; looking forward to hearing what he has to say in the next part!

This is such an unbelievably good series. Thank you for your incredible hard work on uncovering these absolute treasures. Really thought a lot of this media would just exist as low-res video and rumours on old forums. Cannot believe some of the finds you’ve shown. Thank you again!

Your such a good story teller, I get so invested every time I think I was the opposite as a kid I fully understood sailor moon and loved their transformations but alternatively I don't remember sailor Pluto that much given I was really young watching it I do remember watching the old movie though Although those memories are very fragmented

Surprised he has no grudge against DIC, considering they scooped him on Sailor Moon and Saint Seiya and ran BOTH into the ground with their lousy dubbing and syndication.

@PIKMINROCK1

9 ай бұрын

Seems like he has a bit of the grudge but, the main reason he wasn't able to do those shows was Toei getting in the way, not that DIC went cheaper.

@mightyfilm

9 ай бұрын

@@PIKMINROCK1 Toei was the reason 4Kids got One Piece after all. But I'd personally be ticked if me and my company tried to get the license for something only for it to go to a lazier cheaper company, no matter who's fault it was. And the "if I had a nickel for every time, I'd have two nickles" wouldn't exactly help the the situation, the fact DIC was so blah about both series would really honk me off. And even then, DIC's Sailor Moon at least opened the door to another company getting the dubbing rights to the rest of the series and managed to get it a better distribution stream. Knights of the Zodiac died with a bad dub, and a way too late release.

I squealed at the end of the video! What a build up! What a triumph!! I can barely breathe until part 2 comes out!

Another amazing video, excited for part 2!

The Queen is back

I would love to see more detailed pictures of the Prototype dolls!!!🙏💗😩

Never thought that it would end with a beef with Fukunaga and Funimation. Guessing the DragonBall stuff is the issue.

@SlapstickGenius23

7 ай бұрын

But thankfully, the Dragon Ball Z anime became a mighty success in the USA with Funimation’s constantly evolving (and then-new) in house dubbing. I think Gen Fukunaga was the dastardly inventive rascal who made that a long term win!

You knows its a good day when Ray Mona uploads!!

Frank sounds like a nerd who has gotten to talk about his favorite thing and I love it

I’m so excited to watch this!! Thank you so much for providing us with incredible content

Thank you for your continued hard work for perseverating and documenting all the lost anime of Renaissance Atlantic, Ray Mona. Love your Tales of the Lost series. Also, absolutely love the intro and music for it.💙 I'll be sure to watch the rest of this video later. 0:23 I definitely remember the beginning of Pokémon and all of this from the 90's. 0:53 Definitely remember the beginning of Power Rangers in the US. I remember when McDonald's first got the toys for the Power Rangers show. The 1990's were definitely a phenomenal time in history I wish could be experienced again. It was truly a special time for everything.

I am fully committed to this adventure 😄 I can't wait for the next chapter! Excellent work as always 🎉

This is wonderful work. Well done once again! I can't wait for part 2!

Another great video, as usual! I was so excited when I heard Quinton's voice as Frank. I can't wait for part 2!

Ray I need to admit I am in love with your channel. Your work is beyond phenomenal and the quality production for your videos is astonishing, I am truly amazed for how much effort every one of your videos has, 10/10 I will be more than happy to donate to your channel, one of the best in the entire site

It's something wonderful and nostalgic the opening of the videos from "Tales of the lost", with 90s animes and live-actions, and another stuff, and the music theme also (7:15 to 8:44).

Amazing work! I'm not surprised with Funimation😅

Another fantastic documentary by The Ray Mona! I loved looking at that concept art. Artemis(?) in that little top hat is so so cute 💘 This whole video was outstanding but thank you for highlighting the information about The Center for Learning Unlimited. I wish the resources were available to widely advertise the existence of these programs for adults. It might even prove helpful to me! Also thank you Cecilia for shouting out the artist of your Kotaku piece, Chelsea Beck. It's always great to feel recognized and respected as an artist and the artwork for something like an article is often overlooked or underappreciated. Anyway, I await part 2! I'm so excited!

GOSH your videos are always the best!!! Your enthusiasm is truly infectious and now I’m hyped to hear more about these shows I’d never heard of until I saw your videos! Seriously I LOVE your work so much. Your videos are top tier lost media documentaries. You deserve SO many more eyes on your work! Please keep it up!

NEW CONTENT ON TEAM ANGEL?? AMAZING

this series is great Thanks Ray. Can't wait for the next part i sense a can of worms i can see in the making. All these shows Renaissance/frank ward to try their best to bring Anime over with a market level of sense so Anime can do well is pretty well documented but failed cause how Anime would be seen as weird or not accepted. There were network normals people who made cartoons had to follow. an Old way of thinking really of how to market to kids. I can see a smell the feud with Gen a mile given that Funimation went rogue with American normals of selling products but adapting the anime he licensed would hear to and represent t he janapese culture with Uncuts and went head first into just adapting the works and a man like Frank was doing everything in his power to try like Saban to market using TV, Funimation relayed on DVD sale, word of mouth, made the DVDs themselves and as you can see later with DBZ pull away from working with Saban and becoming a dominant force in anime Adaptation while other companies try to stay within the lines of adapting more for TV American standards. They did their best and Slowly others followed you see it now with Digimon and while it was beautifully dubbed it was still had a lot of American censorship but still was able to make an nostalgic dub. Now the series trying to continue and that norms are different and we have streaming services. Now anime is more access cause of streaming services that break the TV syndication norms. Frank ward tried his best while Gen sailed west to Keep things original but cutting the middle man in the process as in toy sales for the western audience. Anyways keep it going thank you~

Thank you Ray for another amazing documentary! Can’t wait for part 2!

i now totally stan Frank Ward, legend of our generation, mastermind of all lost media, conqueror of the galaxy. Best character arc

“Funimation is a front for something” might be my favorite quote ever.

@SlapstickGenius23

7 ай бұрын

Toei animation and Funi (now CrunchyRoll owned, sadly enough) are long time allies not only due to Gen Fukunaga’s connections, but also due to their comically dysfunctional relationship with the Dragon Ball franchise.

Frank's been given a whole character arc this whole video, especially the "coming out of the shadows" part. Got a good laugh from that LOL

I both love and hate a good cliffhanger. If I hate it, that means I can't wait for more. Stellar work. -A new fan

Even though I’m not super familiar with the topics, I still find this to be an interesting history lesson and investigation.

Congratulations on your successful contact with Frank Ward. Looking forward to his vindication.

I attended CLU back in 2011 to 2013. They didn't have an animation program at the time. That is so cool!

Ooooooooh this was SO good!!! You never miss Ray! SO excited for part 2, this is JUICY!

love how happy Frank was in this video

man all i can say its freaking amazing work!. This project is crazy good, like it should be on Netflix! or something. thank you for the hard work.

Gosh his passion in that last email! It got me so excited for part 2! Let’s gooo!!!

Imagine Precure as a Sequel to Team Angel in an Alternate Universe?

idk why the title the vindication of frank ward is funny to me quinton did an amazing job narrating the email I laughed so hard at frank typing in all caps TOMORROW AT 2 what an interesting man love your work!!! just rewatched the sailor moon stuff prior to this hoping your work does not go ignored!!

Great interviews and another awesome documentary! I was hooked on DiC's Sailor Moon and taped the dub every day in 1995! It's fascinating to me that Renaissance Atlantic attempted two American adaptations of the anime. A Western Dragonball cartoon pilot would be crazy to see!

We need an Alternate Reality where they can Localized Anime by Americanizing/Westernizing them for the Saturday Mornings, even the Mature ones.

I was working at a con on Friday when this came out. And didn't get a chance to see this until now. I am super excited to see what more you have uncovered for us. Thank you for bringing us so much interesting information about a lot of my favorite anime grouwing up. And for sure for your next video I'll be sure to see it the day you upload. Take care Ray ❤

I can't believe I was in the video with CFLU during the last guest speaker we had in year 3, and some of the guys too

@marlenesharp3515

9 ай бұрын

I see you, Leo! Thanks for being here!

Qué gran trabajo e investigación, felicitaciones y muchas gracias por tu profesionalismo. Un saludo desde Perú.

This was soo good. Im so excited for part 2! I'm so glad you got to talk to Frank Ward!❤

"MY NEMESIS GEN FUKUNAGA!" has now entered my vocabulary

@elmarakovideo

9 ай бұрын

He became the nemesis of all DBZ fans in America back then! FUNimation DVDs had poor sound quality with awful video footage of Japanese DBZ.🙄

I CANT WAIT FOR PART 2!!!! i am INVESTED in this DRAMA now!!!

Your videos always have Saturday morning vibes which the Gamurai appreciates greatly

Ray, I congratulate you on your excellent, fantastic investigative work.

So amazing. Thank you so much for this hard work and effort… anything is possible if you try.

Yay you always get such good interviews n content

You’re videos are always so amazing! So excited for part 2!

I can't imagine how you felt when you received a full CAPSLOCKED e-mail of Frank Ward lmao Great work as always, love your content!

Phew, finally finished this part of the lost adaptations, and it's wild how this entire trip must have been. And seeing Frank Ward's energetic e-mail must've made you giddy like a school girl!

Omg a new documentary from Ray Mona! Thank you for all your hard work! Looking forward to part 2!

Your work is fantastic and I really appreciate it, but I would like to point out that Shuki Levy has a... rather sordid history of taking credit for the work of others. Like Power Rangers, all of that music was the work of composer Ron Wasserman.

@RayMona

9 ай бұрын

Oh my goodness thank you for reminding me!! I had interviewed Ron Wasserman in a previous episode and forgot to credit him also as a composer this time around 😅😅 i was unaware of that other bit you had mentioned though, so thank you!

@abbynormal2419

9 ай бұрын

@@RayMona No problem at all. This happened a LOT with Saban productions and I just wanna get that info out there. Little tip if you ever find yourself looking into this stuff, typically for Saban productions the actual composer will be credited for something like "music production." For example on the parts of Ocean DBZ Saban had a hand in Shuki Levy and Haim Saban, under an alias, are listed as composers. But under "music production" you'll find Wasserman, who was also the actual composer there, and Jeremy Sweet (singer of Rock the Dragon, also did the Beetleborgs theme.) Crazy stuff, I know.

@SlapstickGenius23

7 ай бұрын

@@abbynormal2419 Shuki Levy and Haim Saban also did the theme song for an early Filmation show based on Jerry Lewis Skits. Their music label (which would birth a dubbing and branding empire) also distributed a ton of French anime dub intros too.

Your videos are such a major event whenever they drop. Very much hyped for this one! And also, I recall that the Toon Makers Sailor Moon videos were in part a reason behind me actually checking out the original anime around that time, as I was in between being a bit too young and out of its, let's say, target demographic to get to watch it back in the day, causing it to fly under my radar for a while. And now I get why its such a beloved classic as it was a pretty good show all around. I kinda wonder why I haven't watched it sooner considering that I did watch Powerpuff Girls and Totally Spies quite often as a kid, and the character designs of Sailor Moon did catch my attention beforehand (especially Sailor Venus and Sailor Jupiter, who fittingly did end up becoming my favorites when watching the show) but better late than never. Though I'll now also wonder if the proposed US anime remakes did end up being made into full series and, most intriguingly, how those might've fared in other markets that did embrace anime a bit earlier such as Europe and Latin America (where I come from). Could the westernized versions made it to those foreign markets too or international distributors would've just brought the Japanese originals instead? And how those might've affected newer shows from the next decades' overseas releases? Who knows... And sure, a few shows like Pokémon, Yu-Gi-Oh and other 4kids productions did get their US dubs/adaptations distributed in a worldwide scale, leaving behind the uncut JP originals, but I think those were the exception rather than the rule. And the core footage was still from the originals instead of a full remake anyways. Overall, the US at large seems to have been a tiny bit late with most 80s and 90s series that became worldwide hits, which for example resulted in Saint Seiya sadly flopping there or Dragon Ball only really taking off a bit later than the rest of the world, but they surely caught up big time in the 2000s onwards thanks to major things like Toonami and the rise of the Internet at large.

You're like the Nancy Drew of Lost Media

@RayMona

9 ай бұрын

🥺❤❤

i cant wait for part 2. I love your videos, they are so well done and the wait is always worth

I'm on the edge of my seat for Part 2!

I could see good production standards when I first tuned in, Worth a sub for sure.

I'm really exited with this Project!!!!! LOVE U Raven, I'm your fan