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@radiata5421

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Cool, you known how much Latin America loves Saint Seiya ☆

@jacksonteller3973

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Personally speaking I don't think the English dub was bad at all despite the awkward voice-acting, I was surprised by how much fighting was kept in and unlike the Sailor Moon dub this one didn't try to hide that it took place in Japan and most of the original names were kept. Some of the changes arguably were more effective, like with Ikki on the Island of Doom, i liked the idea of Guilty's daughter(I think her name was Esmerelda? can't recall)instead of being killed by her father being disturbed by what Ikki had become and running away from him after eliminating Guilty.

@jacksonteller3973

Жыл бұрын

also those "abysmal ratings" of Knights of the Zodiac were Cartoon Network's own fault because instead of airing the show on Toonami like they did with Sailor Moon(which arguably was single-handedly responsible for kickstarting the late 90s and early 2000s anime boom in the U.S. with how popular it was on CN)they aired it on their very short-lived and i'll-advised SVES(Saturday Video Entertainment System) block(which barely lasted a year) where it didn't really fit in with anything else on the block so unsurprisingly it's ratings weren't great and CN then made things worse by suddenly deciding to banish the show to airing new episodes at 12:30 at night. Another part of the problem was the show's age, they could add in all the fancy CGI transitions they wanted but there was no disguising the age of the original animation and with KOTZ being the oldest show on the block it really stuck like a sore thumb. As someone who was active on those uncut anime fansites in the 2000s I can tell you the sales of the uncut ADV dub were pretty poor, they outsold the ADV Kids releases of the DiC dub but not by a whole lot, personally I think the DiC is better as at least their VAs seem to be enjoying themselves whereas the ADV cast seem to be bored and reading off cue-cards the whole time, with the poor quality of the uncut dub and average reviews i'm not one bit surprised ADV took a totally different approach to dubbing Ghost Stories a couple of years later by making a rather forgettable anime into an irreverent and hilarious gag dub. Thank you for mentioning me in your video(i'm darkrage6 the guy that uploaded Evil Apparitions), it's a huge honor. Preserving this dub is something i'm passionate about and I was pretty lucky to be able to get some of those DVDs off Ebay as they can be pricey(especially volume 3 Out of The Arena which I was lucky to get for 20 bucks and Volume 7 Battle for the Ages which cost me about 100 bucks). There was also a very short-lived trading card game based on the dub(this was back when everyone was trying to be the next Yugioh, I remember commercials for the Harry Potter TCG and Spongebob had a TCG in the early 2000s as well) I received a card from one of the DVDs I got off Ebay and showed off a picture of it on the Seiya sub-reddit and there was quite a bit of surprise.

@jacksonteller3973

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@@bluebaron6858 I think so, but YTV wasn't going to be enough to carry the dub, if a dub did badly on Cartoon Network it was pretty much sunk at the time. It's not like now where Yugioh Vrains could get an english dub supported by Teletoon long before it aired in the USA. I think KOTZ could've at least been a decent hit if it had aired on Toonami alongside other respected anime like DBZ, Outlaw Star or Tenchi Muyo, but nobody was going to watch it on a rinky-dink block like SVES, the fact that it paled in comparison to shows on there like Batman the Animated Series didn't do it any favors.

@jacksonteller3973

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@@bluebaron6858 you mean Yugioh?

Those Portuguese and Spanish subtitles are such a good move, considering most of the Saint Seiya fanbase is in Latin America. I personally understand English but a lot of people here don't, so thank you very much :D

@migueldias8546

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Not only Latin America, Europe, and France in particular, have a huge fan base... For France, I can simply mention the name of Jérôme Alquié

@jmhaces

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Yeah, this show was HUGE in Mexico back in the day. I remember watching stuff like Robotech and Mazinger or Voltron as a kid in the 80's and loving that the storytelling was more complex and not episodic and childish like American cartoons of the day, but then in the early 90's Knights of the Zodiac started being broadcast and it was a game changer. It literally lay the foundation for stuff like Sailor Moon and Dragon Ball, and anime in general, to become successful in the mainstream.

Sailor Moon and Saint Seiya even share animation cels - the shattering ground from the first Saint Seiya opening was reused in Sailor Moon as shattering ice when Usagi was fighting Queen Beryl.

I'm Belgian. France was the very first country to air Saint Seiya outside Japan. Because we have access to french channels in Belgium, I grew up with it. Saint Seiya was huge at that time like nothing else before in Europe. When I start traveling around the world, I could see how Saint Seiya is still very popular almost everywhere, likes in China, but in north america. Your video will be a good start to then to explain what it is and why it failed there. Saint Seiya has a such impact on anime, manga, video games like Legend of Zelda. Saint Seiya it's still so huge in Europe, a french comics about it just came out weeks ago. Many thanks for your works. I'm looking for part 2.

@osez111

Жыл бұрын

OUi, je me souviens encore de ce jour de 1988 où j'ai vu le premier (ou deuxieme, je ne sais plus) episode. Un mercredi apres-midi, chez Dorothée.

@ninabaekelmans1038

Жыл бұрын

Hello fellow Belgian im from Flanders! But my Paternal side of the family is from Brussels and speaks French. My dad and step-dad both grew up with saint seiya and i discovered the anime because of the Netflix adaptation that my step-dad was watching. Sometime later i went on a family trip for christmas and managed to find a very cheap Aldebaran figure wich i gave to my step-dad because his zodiac sign is a Taurus!

@nimiacastro129

Жыл бұрын

The first dubbed versions on latinoamerica came from that French version, that's why we saw a translation of the French opening and not the Japanese, and why a lot of the dialog does not make sense 😅

@marcelosadasilva1973

Жыл бұрын

Sandy Frank, Carl Macekre s awful legacy.

@osamaroum

Жыл бұрын

Ah ! The great times with club dorothee , even in Algeria it was very known.

One thing to note is that the anime actually changed the 11 bronze saints to just being mostly unrelated orphans but the manga had them as half brothers.

@juarezamorim

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I think it was a good choice of the anime since it makes the relationship between Ikki and Shun more special.

Thank you ray, when all rare lost media seem lost, our hero has returned

I have work in the morning but this is important

This was incredible. The ending with the reveal was amazing. The chapter where you describe the impact of Saint Seiya on the Latin American community and all the messages from the fans, made me break in tears, this is one of the best documentaries I've ever saw. Thank you.

@tomasgordilloreale5841

Жыл бұрын

@@PabloCesario concuerdo con el extraño

@mightyfilm

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Last year I was at a Target in a Latin population heavy area, and I was in the electronics and non-toy collectibles section and these teenage girls were absolutely swooning over an Andromeda Funko Pop. Seems like the appeal is cross-generational.

@MarciliaFreitas

Жыл бұрын

Agora eu entendo porque os Estados Unidos da América do Norte são uma nação desconectada do resto do mundo (Ásia, África, Américas e Europa)... é porque vocês não têm "Os Cavaleiros do Zodíaco" Saint Seiya... Vejo o quanto Deus me foi bom, eu não sou norte-americana. Obrigada meu Jesus!

Agent Stone: SHE’S BAAAAAAAACK!

Man, nobody could expect such a discovery from someone from a country where Saint Seiya was not a big hit! This is gonna set the Saint Seiya community on fire for a while! Thank you so much for unearthing something as crazy as the Guardians of the Cosmos! Can't wait for part 2!

@MauroX360

Жыл бұрын

nunca supe de eso creo que lo intentaron sepultar bajo tierra y este canal lo saco a la luz xD

@StrawHatCloud4116

Жыл бұрын

Am from Zambia heck I was one of the first if not only person's to watch Saint Seiya literally have all the episodes Saint Seiya og Hades chapters Saint Seiya Omega Saint Seiya lost canvas Saint Seiya movies all The game on my PS4 Saint Seiya Soldier's Soul

@ernstsaturno

Жыл бұрын

No, as a big fan of Saint Seiya 30 years ago, Guardians of the cosmos is like a bad joke that makes you laugh.

@MarciliaFreitas

Жыл бұрын

Agora eu entendo porque os Estados Unidos da América do Norte são uma nação desconectada do resto do mundo (Ásia, África, Américas e Europa)... é porque vocês não têm "Os Cavaleiros do Zodíaco" Saint Seiya... Vejo o quanto Deus me foi bom, eu não sou norte-americana. Obrigada meu Jesus!

My father grew up watching saint seiya in mexico he was a teen, during quarintine he introduced the series to me and its stuck with me i have a strong connection to saint seiya now im even a collector of the myth cloths, if it hadnt been for my dad showing me the series i never wouldve known an anime such as saint seiya ever existed, even got inspiration from saint seiya for my own manga and whatnot loved your podcast especially the end with the gaurdians of the cosmos bit seeing them in an old american style made me surprised and it made me laugh at how awsome it looks. Thank you

@arlenrobles9624

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Y por qué seguir buscando un buen doblaje de "Los Caballeros del zodiaco" cuando existe el mejor doblaje que es el LATINO (México)! que es el doblaje realmente bueno yexacto en las voces. Y no como los doblajes tan malos del inglés y el enfadoso y que hasta dolor de cabeza da a muchos como lo es el irritante japonés.

@gustavoguimaraes5155

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@@arlenrobles9624 brasileira és mejor.

@arlenrobles9624

Жыл бұрын

@@gustavoguimaraes5155 No, nunca. El portugués de Brasil no es que sea malo como tal, lo que pasa con ese doblaje es que nunca está a la altura como por ejemplo del latino y nunca ha sido esa palabra de Épico, (aunque los brasileños piensen lo contrario) no es tan malo como lo es el inglés que es TERRIBLE, una verdadera VERGÜENZA. Pero si comparamos al brasileño con el inglés pues entonces si, el brasileño es el "mejor". 🤷

@brunosegura1206

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@@arlenrobles9624 ¿Por qué no simplemente dejar disfrutar a la gente del doblaje que prefieran (y te lo dice un latino) ?

@MarciliaFreitas

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@@arlenrobles9624 a dublagem do Brasil é a melhor do mundo, supera a todos... Agora eu entendo porque os Estados Unidos da América do Norte são uma nação desconectada do resto do mundo (Ásia, África, Américas e Europa)... é porque vocês não têm "Os Cavaleiros do Zodíaco" Saint Seiya... Vejo o quanto Deus me foi bom, eu não sou norte-americana. Obrigada meu Jesus!

From a passionate Brazilian fan of Saint Seiya: thank you so much Mona! Your work is amazing, and means a lot for all Saint Seiya fans. Can’t wait to see more! ❤️

@marxist-leninist-protagonist

Жыл бұрын

acho melhor nao ficar falando que tu ama SS que isso parece o negocio nazista la KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

Sou brasileiro, e cavaleiros do zodíaco é um sucesso aqui, mesmo depois de tantos anos, a sua base de fãs é enorme. Esse anime foi o mais importante da sua época, e o mais importante da história dos animes no Brasil. Ele estreou na extinta TV Manchete, emissora que apostou em conteúdos de origem japonesa, e cavaleiros do zodíaco foi o primeiro anime que revolucionou o mercado brasileiro, foi uma espécie de "doença", pois os cavaleiros estavam em todos os lugares. Cavaleiros abriu as portas para os animes no Brasil.

@MrPaulowillians

Жыл бұрын

Eu meus amigos na época com 12 anos matavamos aula fácil pra assistir até as reprises rsrs

@Neoblades

Жыл бұрын

Uma pena que a versão americana não saiu do papel.

@Horus070

Жыл бұрын

Também adorava Cavaleiros do Zodíaco da época na Manchete! Na verdade sou fã até hoje. Comprei até umas coletânea de DVD de várias estações dos Cavaleiros e filmes vindos da Malásia . No caso com legenda em chinês, japonês e inglês

@gsdracko

Жыл бұрын

Pude ver la version Brasilera antes que la version latina gracias a Rede Manchete (como un año antes) la version Brasilera y sus openings siempre va a ser la mejor versión para mi. Tambien tuve la suerte de conseguir algunos números de la reviste Herois do futuro en una visita a Brasil :D

@nattmazzoni

Жыл бұрын

Cavaleiros do Zodiaco são parte da história do Brasil!

Una felicitación por esta gran aportación para la comunidad de Saint Seiya. No puedo esperar para ver la segunda parte.

I'm from Rio de Janeiro - Brazil. I'm a Knights of the Zodiac Fan. Congratulations on the excellent work. I already became your fan

Other kids growing up: *KAMEHAMEHA!* Me growing up: *METEOR OF PEGASUS!*

¿2003?...what... I saw Saint Seiya in 1992 every Saturday morning when I was 7 years old "without censure". That was amazing and my mom introduce me to the show.

WHEN I SAW SAINT SEIYA I WAS LIKE AHHHHH!!! IM SO HAPPY!!! SERIOUSLY! This show is one of my fave anime of all time. I grew up watching it both in Spanish and English so I experienced watching it grow from both sides of the fandom. Thank you so much for making this documentary! I hope even more people can get into Saint Seiya! Also I dunno if this was planned but this came out on Seiya’s birthday! 12/1 (in Japan time zone) so HAPPY BIRTHDAY SEIYA :D! ❤️🌟🌌🤛! BURN YOIR COSMO!

@MarciliaFreitas

Жыл бұрын

Agora eu entendo porque os Estados Unidos da América do Norte são uma nação desconectada do resto do mundo (Ásia, África, Américas e Europa)... é porque vocês não têm "Os Cavaleiros do Zodíaco" Saint Seiya... Vejo o quanto Deus me foi bom, eu não sou norte-americana. Obrigada meu Jesus!

Oh boy, a Saint Seiya lost media is a welcome addition!

The amount of work you put into tracking these bits of lost media down then giving us these glorious documentaries on how the search happened are an absolute joy to behold. The fact a CD rom of the Saint Seiya/Guardians of The Cosmos arrived to you without you asking for it shows there is some sort of lost media god/goddess smiling down on you. I mean daaaaamn. I would have been crying.

I was aware that Saban was involved in making an Americanized version of Kamen Rider, but never on Saint Seiya. Makes me wonder what elements they kept and what stuff they altered in the pilot...

Amazing investigation work!! thank you so much!! Saint Seiya was a big part of my childhood, I moved from Europe to Latin America when I was a child and it was huge in both places. It's a shame US kids didn't have the chance to enjoy it at its full.

Thank you very much Señorita. Every single piece of Saint Seiya Lost Media is a treasure for Saint Seiya Fandom!!!

Quem não assistiu até o final do vídeo tá perdendo algo INÉDITO que jamais imaginariamos que cdz poderia ter sido. BRASILEIROS PFVR VEJAM ATÉ O FINAL, É IMPORTANTE

@keatonmask7108

Жыл бұрын

Não se preocupe,isso é uma coisa que eu tenho que ver antes de morrer kkkkkkkkk

@EdersonDilsonStach

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Que pesquisa excelente!!! Estou muito surpreso por comprovar que Cavaleiros do Zodíaco teve uma versão em desenho feito nos Estados Unidos

@PatiDoll1

Жыл бұрын

Como sempre Estadunidenses estragando tudo kkkkkk

@MarciliaFreitas

Жыл бұрын

@@PatiDoll1 Agora eu entendo porque os Estados Unidos da América do Norte são uma nação desconectada do resto do mundo (Ásia, África, Américas e Europa)... é porque vocês não têm "Os Cavaleiros do Zodíaco" Saint Seiya... Vejo o quanto Deus me foi bom, eu não sou norte-americana. Obrigada meu Jesus!

@PatiDoll1

Жыл бұрын

@@MarciliaFreitas WTF?

Costa Rican here! To say Saint Seiya put a mark on our hearts will be a understatement. Not only the narrative of the story, the character development and OST - I still play the OST every now and then while doing my job and still getting emotional out of the sheer epicness of it🥲- was something never saw at the time but also the core values each Saint were driven for. Honor, loyalty and friendship were something a lot of us learned through this anime and it is something not a few people who grew watching it shares in common. I remember a lot of us chatting and yearning to become a Saint of Athena as kids. Edit: You got a new subscriber as I'm looking forward for Part 2!

It's amazing how far you've managed to go with all this research on a missing pilot. Even if the pilot is still currently missing, this is still a huge deal because it unveils more information about the Saint Seiya adaptation that never was. Looking forward to, Part 2!

I'm Brazilian and I lived the effervescence of the anime Cavaleiros do Zodíaco and followed the repercussions it had in several possible aspects. For a long time I questioned myself why the anime was not successful in the USA, now I can understand very well why. In Brazil, the anime still has a very active fanbase. Your work is sensational, patience and perseverance worthy of a Seiya (☺️). I sincerely hope we still have that 15-minute pilot. Thanks for bringing this up.

@MarciliaFreitas

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Agora eu entendo porque os Estados Unidos da América do Norte são uma nação desconectada do resto do mundo (Ásia, África, Américas e Europa)... é porque vocês não têm "Os Cavaleiros do Zodíaco" Saint Seiya... Vejo o quanto Deus me foi bom, eu não sou norte-americana. Obrigada meu Jesus!

Que conteúdo perfeito! Como fã brasileiro de Cavaleiros do Zodíaco, fico muito feliz de ver um conteúdo tão completo sobre a série!

I am glad that I grew up watching it in Spanish even though I live in the United States, I was lucky enough to live close to the Mexican border and I was able to get open air TV channels from Mexico. I was able to watch it was re showed in the summer of 2004 I was 9 and my brother was like 5 when we first saw this. We loved watching this that we would would sing the opening songs a lot in the car, or when we were bored. To this day we go back and watch this show just because we want to relive our childhood. And we also saw shows like Inuyasha, The Vision of Escaflowne and The Red Barron in Spanish as well and just like a lot of people from Spanish speaking countries in the America's we calim a lot of these animes because we didn't have much cartoons to watch so anime was our cartoons for us growing up.

You were looking for the treasure chest and ended up discovering Atlantis itself

Soy fan de Saint Seiya desde hace años, la información, datos, fechas, testimonios y trabajo que has realizado me ha dejado totalmente sorprendido. Toda una inspiración mirar como alguien con tanto empeño realiza un documental de estos temas. ¡Excelente trabajo! !Admirable!

@MarciliaFreitas

Жыл бұрын

Agora eu entendo porque os Estados Unidos da América do Norte são uma nação desconectada do resto do mundo (Ásia, África, Américas e Europa)... é porque vocês não têm "Os Cavaleiros do Zodíaco" Saint Seiya... Vejo o quanto Deus me foi bom, eu não sou norte-americana. Obrigada meu Jesus!

Right up until the end I was thinking "aww well that's disappointing but hey maybe in part 2 something new gets uncovered or maybe she's saving something for the absolute last second..." then the absolute last second hit and I was all "What the...." in the best way possible. I'm fascinated and that clip of theme song got me legit hype to see it too bad it wasn't picked up LOL

With a tear in my eyes, I say thank you. I’ll try to incorporate more storytelling in my channel as well

Don't you just love the way Ray Mona just dropped the bomb at the very end of the video and left?!?

I used to watch this when I was a kid in Guatemala visiting then I got put on coming back to the US. I remember kids there thought I was so cool since I was from America and my Uncle was the teacher there that he took me to the school to join the class and I talked to kids about DBZ and stuff.

Dang, this truly is the year of lost media being found .

Amazing work, here we are the Saint Seiya Fans supporting you channel.. Thank you very much for your effort.

A few months ago a cousin who came yo visit from the U.S. (i live in México). asked if Saint Seiya was good. We talked about the series, the themes of it, movies, games, etc. I showed him My collection, he was impresed by the fact i Still kept the old action figures from the early 90's. So he decides to give Saint Seiya a try.

I find it very interesting that the Gold Saints in the Guardians of the Cosmos intro look EXACTLY like the action figures sold all around the world back in the day! Surely the point of this cartoon was to push the same action figures into the US market! This also explains the use of the newer Bronze Cloths for the protagonists, which were the action figures they had available at the time.

As you should have noticed, we brazilians are hardcore fans of Saint Seiya, the show is very popular here. And well, this is one of the most incredible videos I ever watched concerning this subject. I am very surprised and impressed with your investigation and determination. Thank you for creating such amazing content.

🇺🇸FINALLYYYY!! 🇧🇷AEEE FINALMENTEEEEEE!! 🇲🇽GRACIASSSSSS!!

Phew, took a long time, but I finally seen the whole thing. Can't deny that you've been upping your journalistic chops this year alone! Unearthing Sailor Moon lost media, and now Saint Seiya. Man, this is your year, and you're slaying! Can't wait for part 2!

Recently I've just finished the original series of Saint Seiya. And I also wanna make a video detailing what I like about the series and why people should get into it. This is a good video to get me in the mood for that, while also a really informative video on how the US attempted to localize the series. Really good stuff fr

Wow!!! Been a fan of Saint Saiya, known as Caballeros del Zodiaco. What a fantastic documentary. Wow, I'm speechless. Incredible work. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 I've been a fan of this franchise since 1994, when it aired in Mexico. I was only 4 years old, but for some reason, maybe the VHS, toys, and multiple merchandise made me fall in love with anime. This series is so close to my heart, this was an incredible discovery. I saw this clip on Twitter and other saint Seiya creators told us to watch this documentary. What could have been of saint Seiya in the US. When I turn 13, I moved to the USA, and what was my surprise when I saw the knights of the zodiac action figures at target. Made my dad bought me seiya, figure that I still have. Excited about the movie, anyways. Thank you for sharing your findings and for never giving up. You truly found gold!! 🔥🙌🏼 Best vibes, and blessing. Waiting on part two. ✌🏼

as a latino i am surprised when english speaking youtubers speack about saint seiya

I am currently snuggled up in bed watching intently. Thank you for another great vid!

I'm Brazilian and I have a Saint Seiya tattoo on my right arm. I didn't do it when I was 14, when the series premiered here, I did it when I was 34, to keep forever the memory of the anime that saved my life when I was bullied for being autistic and trans (even without knowing it at the time). All I thought about was killing myself, until this wonderful door opened and I was able to escape suffering and even make friends. Even the name I chose was influenced by the series. I will never be grateful enough, but I will strive until my last day to be as noble and kind as this anime taught me a man should be.

@FAMOUSDRUMS182

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Muito foda pai!!!!

I’m so glad KZread recommended this video to me. These 90 min were nothing but magical. Saint Seiya is, and will always be, my favorite anime. I remember when it first aired in 1994, the show was totally different from everything else I watched before. I feel like I can’t really explain, but the characters, the soundtrack, the story… it really touches me in a different way. Thanks for putting some light on the show for the North America audience, I hope some people give a chance to the show (if you do, try the Japanese version with subtitles). By the way, your research on this video was amazing! Great work!

Great Work!

@carlosb6620

Жыл бұрын

hey Cesarin debemos ayudar a que llegue a los 100mil subs

The answer why Knights of the Zodiac are so popular in Brazil are a series of factors, Brazilians love Japanese series, it was different from anything that had gone before, the outstanding script and soundtrack, and we didn't have many options.

I grew up with Saint Seiya but I’m 13 now..I always loved old school because I find it better

That moment when you try to find one Americanized version of a Japanese show, only to find a different Americanized version of that same Japanese show. Whatever you get out of this, it's gonna be interesting, at any rate.

This was so lost media what I didn't even knew something like this existed at all lmao

That reveal at the end was INCREDIBLE!! I did NOT see that coming and I can only imagine how absolutely mind-blowing it must have been for you

Great job on the research and documentary :) There is another Saint Seiya lost media regarded as a holy grail by the community for the few that are aware of it. At a French convention in 1995, upon seeing a fan made trailer by Jérôme Alquié for the Hades arc, the late Shingo Araki (lead artist of the Saint Seiya anime) mentioned there is actually an existing trailer that was shown internally at Toei Animation at the time for the Hades Chapter, the last part of the manga. Chances are it was just existing footage pieced together but still. The production for that arc was cancelled due to declining rating before finally being adapted a decade later. Yet, fans still wonder to this day how that arc could have looked pre digital era and that answer might lie in that lost trailer.

This was a gigantic professional piece of work. As an all life fan of this outstanding manga/anime, thank you. In my country, Argentina, we met Saint Seiya ("Los Caballeros del Zodiaco"), arrived at first trough brazilian channel "Rede Manchete", and later trough local channels "ATC" and "Magic Kids" (an argentine 24 hours kids content channel, like Cartoon Network). It was ground breaking, had a huge both commercial and culture impact. People of all ages talking about it. Even the animated OVAs and movies where premiered in cinemas and later in VHS. Dragon Ball, Sailor Moon and Saint Seiya where like the Holy Trinity of anime for us. They opened the gates for a whole wave of anime during 90's and 2000's.

@MarciliaFreitas

Жыл бұрын

Agora eu entendo porque os Estados Unidos da América do Norte são uma nação desconectada do resto do mundo (Ásia, África, Américas e Europa)... é porque vocês não têm "Os Cavaleiros do Zodíaco" Saint Seiya... Vejo o quanto Deus me foi bom, eu não sou norte-americana. Obrigada meu Jesus!

The ending hit me like a metaphorical nuke.

@pizzacade8594

Жыл бұрын

First off, they also attempted a dub of the series, then second, that it basically was sent to your door during your search for something related, due to another search for something else.

Thank you for your precious work! You don't know how happy I was! Here in Brazil, I followed the series since 1994, when it premiered. I was 6 years old! the series was a cultural and mass phenomenon. There were no cuts to the violence or blood, the drawing was displayed completely UNCUT! Crazy isn't it? Our mothers fought in stores to buy anime toys! hahahahaha! In your documentary, we saw how disastrous the dubbing was. Here the Brazilian dubbing was the highlight. Due to the wonderful work of the voice actors in Saint Seiya, voice acting has become something that is greatly admired and appreciated! It was the same voice actors for almost 30 years! Saint Seiya still remains strong in the hearts of Brazilians! There are many stories that Saint Seiya has given us!

Saint Seiya walked in the footsteps of Fist of the North Star (Hokuto no Ken) two great series that maked generations and i still think HNK deserves more attention from West

I’m a UK English speaking person, I loved Saint Seiya I know a lot of people are not a fan of the series for reasons but at least I’m one of those people who loves it. Both the manga and the anime of this series. I viewed it as an inspirational anime of the 80s and my favourite 80s Shonen anime of all time.

Yes it's sad that Saint Seiya was treated so badly in North America. Ah that last clip you show us is so cool :) Hope to see second part soon :)

I'm so early that it's only in 360p... 😳 Looking forward to digging in!

I'm halfway through the video. I had to pause it. with literally tears on my eyes. I'm latino and a hard SAINT SEIYA fan. and till this date. it breaks my heart just seeing how this anime didn't get treat properly in North America 💔 it's a cult in the rest of the world. We can just imagine how even bigger SAINT SEIYA would be now in days if this wouldn't have been the case in the US and Canada. it would definitely be bigger than Dragon Ball. I thank you for making this video. thank you!

@jacksonteller3973

Жыл бұрын

You can thank Cartoon Network for that, honestly I don't think the dub was that bad. CN totally squandered what they had by choosing to air the dub on their new not-very-good and short-lived entertainment block called SVES(Saturday Video Entertainment System) instead of Toonami(which was where other English dubs like Sailor Moon and DBZ had gotten immense ratings)and KOTZ stuck out like a sore thumb next to everything else on the block(as it was the oldest show on there)and didn't really fit in(as it mostly aired alongside western cartoons like Batman the animated series), and it when CN moved it to late nights at 12:30 it clashed badly alongside the uncut dubs of other anime that it was airing after like Witch Hunter Robin. If CN had just put the damn thing on Toonami it could've had at least a modicum of success.

@gespenst1329

4 ай бұрын

@@jacksonteller3973 Na, they took out Seiji Yokoyama's OST, that's one thing that doesn't fly.

Great job releasing this on Seiyas birthday There's a lot of mention of Power Rangers in this episode, would you consider doing an episode on lost media from that, like say the original Bioman pilot?

As a lifelong Saint Seiya fan from Mexico, I just want you to know that your work is excepcional and I can’t wait for part 2! It’s always a good day to learn something new or secret about Saint Seiya!

You're like a detective and your tenacity is inspirational.

About the success of SS KoZ in Latin America. This show is imprinted in me, my first memories of television is with this show. I Grew up wishing to have the expensive toys of the show. One day, the kids were playing soccer at the street, a woman threw the saint seya toys of her kids into the street and ran with her car over those expensive action figures, she had just been converted a Jehovah's Witness. It was such a traumatic experience, lol. It was '98 I was four years old

I remember Saint Seiya being marketed as Knights of the Zodiac... I wish I'd gotten into it when I was younger

@jacksonteller3973

Жыл бұрын

I actually think KOTZ is a better title then SS, because the series is about more than just Seiya so putting him alone in the title feels like it kinda does a disservice to the other Knights IMO.

@dcb99filmz

Жыл бұрын

@@jacksonteller3973 besides, the other Knights are better characters than him

The amount of love that I see in this investigation is as big as Shun's cosmo, excellent work!!!

Gracias por los subtitulos 😁

Your content is always such high quality. Thank you so much for all the work you do! 🥰

These cliffhanger endings wreck me so hard. Can't wait for more!

Estoy impactado con la versión gringa animada de Saint Seiya 😱😱 tremendo descubrimiento😱😱 .. MUCHAS GRACIAS !!!

@AlejandroLopez-jx6mn

Жыл бұрын

No sé si reír o llorar me recuerda a Streetfighter con su versión para Estados Unidos y su versión anime

@ruteroaventurero655

Жыл бұрын

@@AlejandroLopez-jx6mn hay que reír.. Por muy cring que sea esa versión es oro puro, freak, bizarro del mundo Saint Seiya 🤣

i will personally spam this video on every single fucking social platform i have just for the journalistical integrity and research on chapter 3 , you earned my respect as an investigator

Those last seconds were mind-blowing!!! Congratulations!

Una verdadera arqueóloga y detective. Me he quedado pegado con este documental y estoy pendiente de su segunda parte. Ray Mona, verdaderamente posees el Séptimo Sentido.

Saint Seiya is an absolute Masterpiece! Huge fan of the mangas, animes and myth cloths over here! Thanks Ray mona for your dedication! The latín american community is blown away right now, you are trending

You did an amazing job on the Toon Makers Sailor Moon documentary and I'm so excited for what you are bringing into my life!!! Thank you so much for all that you do!

Looks Saint Seiya & Sailor Moon are more alike in some prospects than most of us thought.

This video is worth every single minute. The end really surprised me. Can't wait for part 2.

I'm in love with your channel! You're a great storyteller, I was completely hooked! 90s-born brazilian and Saint Seiya fan since childhood ~ it's a shame americans could not engage with this beloved series at the time, but it's never too late!

Por qué fue un éxito en dónde se emitió sin censura? Algunos dirian peleas brutales con litros de sangre a chorros, otros dirían por el diseño de las armaduras o cloths, otros por la calidad de dibujo y música apasionante, yo diría por qué era una serie que te enseñaba VALORES, eso era lo que realmente lo hacía grande. Gracias Saint Seiya todos esos niños que mirábamos con ilusión la TV nos inspiró a ser mejores personas.

@gustavoguimaraes5155

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Exatamente! Os valores mostrados em Saint Seiya são grandes, lindos e passados de geração em geração. A amizade, o amor, a coragem, honestidade, tudo isso tem em Cavaleiros, e todos gostam, ou deveriam, gostar disso.

Você deveria ganhar um Pulitzer por esse vídeo. Simplesmente MARAVILHOSO seu trabalho! Aqui no Brasil Cavaleiros do Zodiaco já está tão incorporado na nossa cultura que chega a ser estranho quando a gente descobre que em outros países ele não chegou a ser tão popular quanto outros animes da mesma época. Parabéns de verdade pelo trabalho. Ansioso pela continuação!

@MarciliaFreitas

Жыл бұрын

Agora eu entendo porque os Estados Unidos da América do Norte são uma nação desconectada do resto do mundo (Ásia, África, Américas e Europa)... é porque vocês não têm "Os Cavaleiros do Zodíaco" Saint Seiya... Vejo o quanto Deus me foi bom, eu não sou norte-americana. Obrigada meu Jesus!

@Rapha2ifly

Жыл бұрын

@@MarciliaFreitas pelo visto cdz não é popular em países que falam inglês. Até que enfim uma vantagem de termos sido colonizados por portugueses kkkkkk

Your cosmo reached the 7th sense during your hard work of investigation! Thank you! It was really amazing. I can't wait to see the rest in part 2.

Obrigado por realizar essa grande investigação sobre os Cavaleiros do Zodíaco que são uma das obras mais queridas do Brasil. Parabéns 👏👏👏

HOLY F$%&! I didn't know about Guardians of the Cosmos... You have my attention. Saint Seiya was one of the first anime I've ever watched, back in the early 90's when it was broadcasted in Argentina. This video is really awesome!

Okay, I came out of this more psyched for part 2....what a journey...

While I only watched Saint Seiya up until the Asgard arc back then despite being from Latin America, I'm still very much aware of how big that show is there (as well as Europe), its status as one of the first international anime hits and it not clicking in North America in comparison. So kudos for this video and the extra subtitle options. A fun fact that I do recall vividly about Saint Seiya's LATAM Spanish dub is the voice actor overlap with other classic anime. Such as both Seiya and Shiryu sharing the same VA with Yamcha (the former voices him in the first 60 episodes and the latter took over halfway through the Red Ribbon Arc onwards. Each instead became their own knights here), Hyoga with Vegeta and, as a cool connection with the previous TOTL videos, Athena with Minako / Sailor Venus. Saint Seiya is so iconic here that we typically get almost any spinoff, game or movie that gets released.

@Tomatrix

Жыл бұрын

Shun is the One that shares the voice with Vegeta and Seiya is the One with Yamcha

@diegorivas1991

Жыл бұрын

@@Tomatrix He means for the Latin America dubbing actors's crew. In the Dragon Ball dub both Jesus Barrero (Seiya) and Ricardo Mendoza (Shiryu) voiced Yamcha, and René García (Hyoga) voiced Vegeta. Until this day even after three decades and despite having many other succesful and important characters dubbing animes, the dubbing crew are still recognized by the characters on Saint Seiya as they're most important work, ever.

@Yarlick

Жыл бұрын

@@diegorivas1991 That's actually pretty interesting to see that "voice actors" got swapped out, I only have knowledge of the Japanese cast and french cast, and It was actually funny that Vegeta and Shun had the same Seiyuu x)

This was an amazing documentary. The lost media At the end blew my mind and I’m sure it took the SS community by surprise. Cannot wait for the next part

You're leaving us on a cliffhanger?!?!?

I have watched with utmost interest your previous documentaries about Saban Moon as it, along with Saint Seiya (Caballeros del Zodiaco here), were the series I most watched in the early 90's here in latam. But Saint Seiya is closer to my heart as I've been on this fandom for over 30 years. When you mentioned that if not for the american fans of Sailor Moon pressuring to get the original animation completely released, you would have gotten instead a reimagined version in the form of the live action adaptation Team Angel, I saw so many parallels to what happened to Saint Seiya with the butchered version you got, and the pilot of Startorm that we knew Kurumada didn't find faithful to the source. Sadly as you mention it here, the uncaring treatment this great anime got killed any form of american success as it should have been: it's themes are universal and can resonate with anyone. Thank you very much for such amazing periodistic effort uncovering the ins and outs of the approaches to japanese media of the american entertainment of that time, I'll be eagerly waiting for the next part.

Really interesting documentary, thank you from Italy! Just a small side-note: in the original manga all Saints are half-brothers and children of Mitsumasa, but in the original anime this was changed and any reference to it was cut. This is one of many differences between the original anime and manga made partially because of different target audiences and partially due to the unusually short time between the release of the manga and the beginning of the anime adaptation.

When the pilot popped into my feedback in Facebook I immediately suspected your channel had something to do with it and it somehow made me squeak in joy! It has always intrigued me how little popularity Saint Seiya has had in the USA while it is hugely popular in Latin American countries. My father used to watch it during his teen/young adult years and he introduced me to the anime (and the sort of cringy op made in Spain, lol) Your research for lost media always manages to amaze me, great work!

Well that's a cliffhanger. It's crazy to see shit like that and know its not some modern mockup or pastiche of what such a show could have looked like. It's the real deal that's been in a dustbin for decade. Wild.

Super awesome, great job! Thanks for the cameo 🤭 17:00

You should do the Jon Benet Ramsey case next.

@marlenesharp3515

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💯💯💯

What an incredible video! Great writing, superb editing and awesome content. Congratulations! I am eager to watch new videos. Totally subscribed now.

Este vídeo está haciendo eco en todos los fans latinoamericanos , execelente trabajo Ray mona, me enteré de tu video en el canal de cesarin: geek u

Excellent work and research, thank you very much for your time, I love Saint Seiya, since I was a child until my current 39 years. I send you a big hug from Honduras.

Amazing video, Raven! I have no knowledge of Saint Seiya, but I loved hearing the details about the series in this video. I loved your investigations into finding the lost live action StarStorm pilot. An even bigger surprise pops into the picture with the introduction of an American animated opening called Guardians of the Cosmos! I'm definitely looking forward to watching part 2, which will hopefully give us answers about these productions!