I think that performance last night outlines that we need a good transfer window, we need at least 5 or 6 players and get rid of all the deadwood.

@BrianPinas9

Ай бұрын

Realistically, we need about 18 players and a new manager. Isak, Guimaraes, Almiron, Dubravka, Schar and Joelinton are the only decent players at the club.

@toonarmy3870

Ай бұрын

Howe not ruthless enough

@lconnerz100

Ай бұрын

@@BrianPinas9🤣🤣 okay after you just said that, realistically, you shouldn’t offer an opinion if it’s going to be that bad 😫🤣

@abrupt_oliver

Ай бұрын

If Bruno leaves we can bring in 2/3 high quality players.

@MogMonster87

Ай бұрын

@@abrupt_oliverchances are we won’t have Europe and Howe will still be manager so how are we gonna attract the high level players

Our midfield was shocking. Longstaff just is not good enough. He takes an age to pick a pass and then it's usually backwards or sideways - always just a percentage pass. He offers us nothing in terms of progressive football and has developed zero relationship with Bruno in the middle. Most games Bruno looks like he's playing on his own.

@daniel4224

Ай бұрын

Spot on. Bruno is a one man midfield. Longstaff offers nothing creatively, he offers nothing defensively, takes too long to pass, too long to shoot, gets knocked off the ball too easily. I know what Howe stays so loyal to this guy. keep he as a squad player (maybe) but get him out of the starting 11 asap

Truthfully we have not played well for most of the season. We have probably played 6 or 7 good games. We have absolutely bottled every big game.

I agree with Alex, away from home we have often played badly and conceded goals easily, to win first you must not concede. The consistency has to be on the coaching staffs shoulders unfortunately. The side we had out should have been strong enough to win and don’t have confidence to win away against Brentford, record amount of goals scored but our defence has not been good enough.

I'd honestly rather we finished 8th now and have a clean run at the top 4 next season without any distractions. Europa Conference League isn't a real trophy and even winning it only grants a Europa League place, not worth the effort imo.

@kwanman5146

Ай бұрын

Good luck in keeping and attracting players aboard. Europe is important to the foreign lads. We bottled it last night.

Everyone is pointing fingers at the players, but reality is other teams know our game now, they know our weaknesses and exploit them weekly…… our game is always lost in midfield, we rarely control the games like we did last year and other teams are finding the holes and space now

@daniel4224

Ай бұрын

absolutely correct. we NEVER have any control in midfield. it's bruno trying to do everything himself because the other two are useless. Bruno and Longstaff have been playing together for almost 2.5 years now and have no chemistry together whatsoever. very concerning.

Sadly, Eddie Howes loyalty to his favourites and to his methods will cost him his job. Longstaff, Krafth, Trippier, Murphy, and Dubravka wouldn't feature in any of the top 10 Premier League sides. Longstaff offers no support to Bruno. He hides on the pitch. He's a major reason why we have been ineffective for months.

Eddie is too soft not ruthless enough he is scared of hurting players’ feelings so he won’t do what is necessary for the good of the team.

@SensibleMoniker

Ай бұрын

He as much as admitted it on the Gary Neville interview

The amount of times you all assume we will win drives me mad. We are an average side this season, especially away from home yet every week, its "so we win the next 4 games and finish 6th" as if we ever had a chance of doing that! And dont get me started on "sell the deadwood" when at best we will find a team that will pay half their wages!

@daniel4224

Ай бұрын

just because we have been performing "average" away from home does not mean that's the level of performance we should be expected to achieve. I understand what you are saying but with the money that has been spent we should be able to beat Palace, Brighton at home and this Man Utd team

The amount of times we lose the ball is criminal. I know we don’t have the quality but it was proved against Manure. Anybody seen our midfield? I can’t

A lot of people are forgetting that we are actually way ahead of schedule. This was supposed to be a 5 year project, and this is year 2 (which was mostly a write-off due to the injury crisis).

@daniel4224

Ай бұрын

pretty sure it was 5 years to win the league.....2.5 years in and we probably won't even qualify for europe .....that's not what i call ahead of schedule

@jdevlin1910

Ай бұрын

Jog on with your schedule man

You could see in Howes post match presser he was raging about the defence. Despite Lewis halls encouraging performance it's a pale comparison to the ability of last season's back line. It needs a major overhaul, Howe alluded to this mentioning getting the right personnel post game. You can carry one or two players of lesser ability in this league if the team is confident and doing well but we're carrying 5+ on a frequent basis. Lastly I think Wilson's probably tested Howes patience for the last time. Howe mentioned about some players only wanting to play when their feeling 100%. 80% Wilson off the bench might of offered us something, we'll never know. Finally time to sweep away the last remnants of the Ashely era that can't make the grade this summer.

I totally agree with Alex that we have been naive soft touches all season. it's perplexing how we have regresses to this. last season we were compete b@st@rds and seemed more Diego Simeone than Arsene Wenger. Not so now though 😕

To be honest, the worst thing I keep seeing is unforced errors in regards to passing. Just infuriating!

@TheIncredibleBeard_

Ай бұрын

Having low technical ability players in midfield causes us no end of problems.

@toonarmy3870

Ай бұрын

@@TheIncredibleBeard_correct we cannot continue playing with one in midfield

@user-gh7mi2nj4i

Ай бұрын

@@TheIncredibleBeard_finally someone who talks sense. Fully agree

Still no sign of Howe being the man to turn us from eternally cursed bottlers. Sure we are 150% better than during Bruce, but come one, Bruce activly turn any team into utter shit just with his mere presence. How we play such a disorganized game vs. an absolutely horrid ManU-team that basicly just hooves the ball up from the keeper is astonishing. Somehow Ten Hag outmanagered Howe without doing any fecking thing at all, with an entirely patchwork defense and u18-players.

Had to win 3 games left of the season, so far have failed to win 2/3; joke.

@BrianPinas9

Ай бұрын

Howe will be sacked on Sunday evening

“Just not good enough” is what I end up saying to my long-suffering fiancée - about Newcastle - way too often. We’ve done extraordinarily well to get to this point, and this position, given all the mitigating factors but when it counts… We’re just not good enough.

@JRHunter1993

Ай бұрын

"when it counts" is the main part of the sentence there. Just saying "were not good enough" is wrong. We are good enough and with a limited squad. But it's these tough games in cup final situations that were lacking the experience. Need to be less fearful going into it as you can see what it means to everyone going into it. Same thing with England tbf and I've been saying those words for years now. Newcastle and England are very similar atm.

Gordon fouled (at least once) and then you see the hole in his sock. VAR decision, darn it.

Ironically maybe this result helps ETH keep his job which in the long run is better for us

It's next Thursday. Got my dates mixed up.

It was like watching Wimbledon back in the 90s So meny longballs over the top

Pope should've been straight back into the side if he's fit enough for the bench. No real cotrol in midfield again - an opportunity missed for all to see against a wholly bang average man utd side who were there for the taking. Big summer required for us for sure with a few just not up to this level.

On the plus side, maybe this is the nudge pif needed to go out and buy Diomande, Ignacio, Nico Williams and Sesko 🤞

@daniel4224

Ай бұрын

I think the club was going to spend the maximum allowable anyway....missing out on europe will just lower the summer budget

I like Murphy, i think he was good. We don't move the ball fast enough. I'm sick of watching forward. Players make runs and then have to stall out because we are not moving the ball from midfield fast enough.

our away form this season has been abysmal, which can’t really be blamed on injuries or fixture fatigue, we need more players who put 100% in without 50,000 geordies behind them cheering em on

Gordon didn't pass the buck. He literally said that wasting good chances cost us the game and that they can't just blame VAR. He was directly asked about the VAR decision, which is why he mentioned it. He even said that he didn't bother appealing or making a fuss and told the team to just wait because he was sure the foul would be caught by VAR. I can't comment on Bruno's tweet cos i dont do Twitter.

Like Saturday we created chances, got in some great positions, it just didn't happen again, sometimes it's like that, we've been through so many peaks n troughs this season, but to be fair we do every season don't we, on reflection, yea i would start Pope in goal, we had no choice but to play Tripps, and unfortunately he was off the pace, i may even have started Joe, Dubs just collapsed like a deck chair for two of the goals, but if we convert our clear chances we win that game, we did not, they did. Add, hopefully four players at least to come in, and maybe Trippier, Wilson, Almiron, Ritchie to go, our squad will get a freshening up, Willock back, Tonali back as well as Botman. Really looking forward to the new season, massively exciting TIMES ahead for NUFC. HWTL.

@kwanman5146

Ай бұрын

We want to be a big club and have a big club mentality. Worst Man United side in a generation. Massive injuries. All the odds, pundits and betting sites said we would beat them but yet again we didn't turn up!

This is why I hate stat's other than goals scored/conceded, meaningless.

Alex come on "it's inconceivable not playing Pope" he has had a dislocated shoulder. Also saw an article that states Tripps lost the ball 17 times and Hall lost it 15 times. Is that normal?

Salty Geordie tears. We outplayed use

Hopefully I'll feel better after watching Leverkusen tonight.

@LEDC5000

Ай бұрын

Unless you’re watching a re-run, they’re not playing tonight, pal. Last game of the league on Saturday. 3 games to achieve footballing immortality. Any chance we can persuade Xabi Alonso to come to the Toon?

Not sure why people are suprised. We mailed in the season away from home. Trips and Dubs have lost us valuable points. Forget the bs Conny League and start from scratch next yr.

People keep asking for defenders but our midfield is abysmal at the moment, once the graft is gone there is nothing to it at all. No ability to retain possession and control the game, couldn't find a pass. Defenders were completely bypassing the midfield in the first half it was that bad.

Alex's team selection issues are such a simplistic way to look at it. I'll trust Howe is putting the best he can out there. When Pope first arrived here he went straight into the team. Dubravka could have done better for the 3rd goal, but I thought the defending was more shocking than the goalkeeping. Harsh to expect him to do better for the 1st & 2nd. Dubs sadly the easy scapegoat when miserable people need something to moan about.

@kwanman5146

Ай бұрын

Nah. The stats show we are leaking goals for fun. We may be scoring plenty but we're also leaking a lot as well. A strong side has a good defense. And compared to last season we are nowhere near standards. We've had injuries but it doesn't explain getting split in two with a single pass through the midfield several times this season. You seen the defending last night. Shocking. 2nd goal from the ex mackem was preventable especially it was telegraphed several times before he scored but he was free several times. Criminal.

I’m sick of hearing XG this and XG that…. I’m interested in F*****g AG… Actual goals !!

2 things needs to happen...Eddie needs to go now...or we need a better assistant manager to really help Eddie out. Particularly with in game tactical changes and defence coaching. But im ready for a new start. Amorim or Motta even Jose would be good to get in

@nolslifegren

Ай бұрын

This ...

So, are we back yet? Are we class?

Last night was time up for the players howe inherited from Bruce they all must be moved on better a small squad and kids than wasting money on average players

Where's the beautiful Charlotte? Howe out.

Watch that first goal again. That wasn't Trippier's fault you can't try and play offside that high up. Krafth goes walkabout for no reason

@TheIncredibleBeard_

Ай бұрын

Tripper literally played Mainoo on side. You can see the defence holding a line and Tripper being the one out of place.

@garyvalentine8081

Ай бұрын

@TheIncredibleBeard_ Yes, he did, but Krafth runs uncontrollably after the ball and doesn't get it. Trippier also was marking the left winger

@daniel4224

Ай бұрын

Shut up kieran

@TheIncredibleBeard_

Ай бұрын

​@@garyvalentine8081It isn't any who was making who. If you look the defence is pushing up and Tripper just doesn't follow them.

@jdevlin1910

Ай бұрын

You're so obviously wrong here I wouldn't trust any other opininon you have.

For those thinking Howe is the man to have us compete regularly for trophies all I want to know is this: What have you seen in Eddie Howe that gives you confidence he is an elite, trophy winning manager? Or failing that, has the potential to be. What has give you the confidence that he can fix the huge amount of errors made this season and learn on the job in the toughest league in the world. Whilst being arguably the most stubborn manager in the league.. Anything, honestly I want to learn

@tomruddell9099

Ай бұрын

He’s awful tactically, he rode the Saudi wave last season but has been completely found out this season.

@levstone415

Ай бұрын

Howe is elite as he inherited loads of average Championship players and has avoided relegation, finished 4th, 2 quarter finals (away to Chelsea and Citeh). Which top 6 team will play Dubrovnik, Kraft, Burn, Longstaff, Murphy, Migi. Would Arsenal but pushing for the title with these players in his team?

@dansnowden9147

Ай бұрын

@@levstone415 yes he inherited those players yet has had £400m to improve the squad. He confirmed after Ashworth left he has more or less full control on transfers. Yet kept Wilson, Miggy, Dubravka. Five opportunities he’s had to replace and he hasn’t done it. Getting most of the way there and bottling it in big games does not make you a top manager.

When Amanda Staveley said that we would win every trophy, I think she forgot that losing is in our DNA. So many missed opportunities, but we're always told that we're "ahead of schedule." It's not good enough.

@F--B

Ай бұрын

Losing was in man city's DNA - until it wasn't

It's no longer a question of "if" about selling Bruno or Isak - we just have to. There's so much dead wood to clear out and adding a couple of players to this squad won't change much. We need a big overhaul to upgrade on the likes of Murphy, Almiron, Longstaff, Krafth and Anderson - and that's not to mention bench warmers like Dummett & Ritchie. I have no problem with criticism of the manager, but let's be honest about the strength of the squad.

Season cannot end soon enough. Hopefully we can beat Brentford but I have zero expectations at this point. Super disappointed and concerned about the future 😓

@BrianPinas9

Ай бұрын

We've got no chance against Brentford

That guy was talking shit about we didn’t want to see them at home. We played better than you majority of the game, especially the first half. Salty Geordie tears

I can guarantee if we get 7th manure will win the cup and no European football for us

Barnes is a massive waste of money. I miss Maxi. Gordon is clear of any fault this season, he is the only one who puts in a shift even on one leg. The manager is not good enough. Reactive rather than active. This club is becoming like Arsenal, eternal bottlers even after having the richest owners on the planet.

Anyone in these comments saying eddie howe should go needs to give their head a real wobble

"We could still finish sixth..." What planet are you on? If all the sides in the PL that you lot have called "poor" or worse, really were, we would have no problem finishing in the top four.

Do you really need to wear headphones? You're right next to each other..