I remember.... in Final Fantasy III, there was the legend of the Five Warriors of Darkness that held the Cloud of Darkness in Check. The Cloud of Darkness was intended to keep Light and Darkness in "balance", but somehow this was not the true intent for the Warriors of Darkness. But even the Four Warriors of Light (or Onion Knights), couldn't defeat the Dark Cloud until the Warriors of Darkness sacrificed themselves... This all took place in a lost world called Eureka... which was connected with places like the Rift and the Void... and even Dissidia Duodecim's story told a similar (if not repeated tale) of several warriors who sacrificed themselves to "pave the way" for the true end of the Fantasy... I can't speak for Dissidia NT... but I can say that world was "also" a repeat of past events...

@vadandrumist1670

Жыл бұрын

Corrections. Four Warriors of Darkness that defeated the Cloud of Light. The Cloud of Darkness/Light is summoned to destroy a world that's balance of such has already been broken.

@MimebladeGMail

Жыл бұрын

@@vadandrumist1670 That is NOT what I remember of the PSP/DS version of Final Fantasy III.

@MimebladeGMail

Жыл бұрын

@Regulus Yeah, I actually was referring to the Cloud of Light... that doesn't make sense.

@Darth_Bateman

Жыл бұрын

@Regulus so is Exdeath the actual void? Or is he just the silver surfer to the voids Galactus?

@V1CB0SS

Жыл бұрын

@@Darth_Bateman he is just an evil tree that gained control over the void

Jack: i mean, you got the look Emperor: *eye twitch*

I do still wish we spent more time with the Fiends after the events of the base game. Like, more cutscenes and the gang talking amongst each other.

@hoangaget5017

Жыл бұрын

and the Princess too!!!

That last bit with 'Thank You' to all the fans really hit ^__^

The symbolism between Jack and the WOL lives on within these games. Without light (good) or darkness (evil) how can you have a story within a world to begin with? "Final" is setting the story's end and future. And a new future in a different world (Fantasy) God....my brain hurts...

@ammagon4519

Жыл бұрын

Bravo Vince!

So Dissidia is canon, with the moogle describing the events of Cycle 013 on Dissidia. Love it!

@shadow98004

Жыл бұрын

With the Gilgamesh DLC for Strangers of Paradise, it confirms that Dissidia is indeed canon, as the Gilgamesh that shows up in SoP is specifically him AFTER the events of Dissidia, as he actually mentions meeting a "Garland" in what he refers to as "A World of Endless Battle"

@Bahamut998

Жыл бұрын

@@shadow98004yes there are two garland I believe. One that didn’t fulfill his destiny and got lost in a cycle of endless battles. And our Jack garland who becomes god of discord in different future dlc. Which is his canon future.

Neon : “What is this? Some sort of final fantasy origin?”

As annoying as she was, what Nil said at the end there she has a point. Considering the will of various villains have allowed them to return to cause their heroes conflict whether its creating another timeline, coming back from the dead or being summoned to another world . This includes Dissidia. Not that I'm complaining if it means that the next Dissidia Jack and Nil become the playable opposites of Stranger of Paradise. Hopefully the next Dissidia takes is closer to the original PSP games though

@VylonDelta

Жыл бұрын

Jack and neon already in opera omnia. He (sort of) trains ff3 warrior of light to defeat cloud of darkness.

@mrcerulean7406

Жыл бұрын

@@VylonDelta I know. I really liked that chapter and Astos got in too. Hoping Nil gets added one day it may take a while considering this final update to Stranger of Paradise came out recently. Though I wonder how long it will take considering Zenos still has not made it yet.

@StarFighter748

Жыл бұрын

Its a shame were never gonna get another Dissidia game again...

We really were the Stranger of Paradise, Final Fantasy Origin, all along.

@jordanstafford5110

Жыл бұрын

Not anymore according to the dmv

@rayjinflo

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like any shitpost comment, yet it is profoundly true

So through the DLC they are trying to imply that this Garland is not the same we see in the original FF1 or in Dissidia. But at the same time he is the same person, meaning they are likely saying the time loop was broken, and now Jack is experiencing a different branch. Ironically recreating the original loop, but with subtle differences. Meaning "time" between dimensions is irrelevant as everything is taking place at the same moment no matter how far in the past or future you go within your own dimension. Due to the events in a different dimension (Dissidia) concluding, interference bled over into the first Dimension. Altering the set history while still remaining very similar. At least that's my take on it. Years ago I was always skeptical that contradicting pieces of story would be canon material. But atm the FF division has been doing a lot of effort over the years to merge all FF games into one grand universe that exists within the same "universe" so to speak. Meaning the Emperor losing his magic here is likely also canon material that will be relevant in later games at some point.

@Bahamut998

Жыл бұрын

I believe Garland we used to know is the version of Jack (it's still same guy inside the amor) that got stuck in eternal time loop forever, with no hope to end the cycle. So his behavior is more crazy/obsessed because he literally does not try to end the cycle anymore. The new Jack Garland is new timeline where the same Garland actually succeeded in ending the cycle by producing the TRUE warrior of light, which fixed the FF1 world. Truth be told, the old Garland is now kind of irrelevant. New Garland is the true Garland who succeeded in his mission.

@jadeemme3697

11 ай бұрын

the moogle also touches upon what's going on in FF:OO, where both Garland and the WoL have becomes the "pillars"/gods of the Dissidia-verse ( since both Cosmos and chaos, as well as Materia and Spitius are gone).

The moral of this story: screw the Lufenians

Jack is the true hero of Final Fantasy

@XenoZen_

Жыл бұрын

I mean. He did save an entire series. Gave it purpose. Without Good or Evil how can you have a story? Lol

@alexappsapp1332

Жыл бұрын

@@XenoZen_ Wdym entire series?

@vadandrumist1670

Жыл бұрын

A perfect summation of a prequel undermining the original.

@alexappsapp1332

Жыл бұрын

@@vadandrumist1670 It's an alternate timeline sir

@XenoZen_

Жыл бұрын

Game theory? Idk

The implication of other universes makes me wonder if a version of garland really did end up in FF9

@JMartini810

10 ай бұрын

Yesss!!! I'm sure old Jack in FF9 is saying.... "Man FUCK Kuja !"

So touching, sad, and hopeful.

I just loved this story of Hero behind the shadow.

Thanks for the vid! I like this ending better! 🙂

Did they ever explain who the Lufenians collaborator was? That gave them the crystal matrix? Is it the emperor from FF2.

@dstar9016

Жыл бұрын

I think it's shinryu

@theequalizer694

Жыл бұрын

heavily implied it's Shinryu

@Nosfera22

Жыл бұрын

The documents you get in the Different Future DLC heavily imply that the collaborator was Emperor, there are even some documents written from his perspective

@MimebladeGMail

Жыл бұрын

In Dissidia the collaborator was Shinryu, but in this story, based on records the Collaborator was the Emperor.

@yorhaalm

Жыл бұрын

Might be both Shinryu and Emperor honestly.

Thanks so much for making this series

Wouldn't it be much easier to create a crystal of darkness and use it to open the way to the world of the Lufenians? The Chaos Shrine has one. USE IT.

@foxshoot3138

Жыл бұрын

Bullshit

The full-fledged villain was defeated by a villain in-training? Bullshit.

@Bahamut998

Жыл бұрын

You’re talking about the emperor? Cuz Garland with full chaos power and darkness basically is more powerful than emperor.

I'll wait a bit for the video's quality to go slowly go higher with how long ago it was uploaded. ^^

@padnomnidprenon9672

Жыл бұрын

Hey, Followed your advice and waited. Nice catch

43:00 Yeetus Mateus 😂

My theory of this and dissidia tying into each other was correct

@saphis17

Жыл бұрын

i think like that : base game : World D (for me this is not a pre-quel of FF 1) DLC 1 (bahamut) : World D DLC 2 (Gilga) : World D, and a little bit of Dissidia/012 (World B/C) DLC 3 (Future) : Dissidia 012 (World C) and World D (we see 2 futurs )

@Bahamut998

Жыл бұрын

@@saphis17what il confused about is how garland keeps existing in dissidia after being killed.

@saphis17

Жыл бұрын

@@Bahamut998 In Dissidia 012 Garland told to Chaos "you are me, but you don't remember" And they can't really die because of Shinryuu And the only possibility is that there is 2 Garland of different timeline (or great World) for Dissidia

@Bahamut998

Жыл бұрын

@@saphis17 how bout the new jack garland after he becomes chaos of discord? Is the following to stranger of paradise the Opera omnia game as moogle and garland appear there?

Truly the best game ever with story we finally understood since Dissidia came out in 2007 connecting the events of the cycle.

@Nosfera22

Жыл бұрын

I could be wrong but I was under the impression that the ending was hinting towards a new Dissida where Jack is the chaos god and WoL is the order god

@danielmorrison291

Жыл бұрын

@@Nosfera22 Honestly, I thought it was about the mobile Dissidia game, Opera Omnia, since Jack was a recently added character to the story and has a special attack, called Thirst For Chaos, where he's joined by The Emperor.

@Bigrog1988

Жыл бұрын

Best game ever lol - HELL NO

@jonathanreed9129

Жыл бұрын

Confused Dissida connection to this

@Bahamut998

Жыл бұрын

@@Nosfera22i think you are fully right.

We so need a remaster of Dissidia.

0:29 Bahamut, the Lord Of All Dragons.

the Multiverse is real here.... makes sense since Dissidia

So the friends we made along the way were the crystal all along.

So how do I get Jack's armor? Pls and ty!

12:14 So it's confirmed that this game is alternate world to FFI?

@VylonDelta

Жыл бұрын

Yes

@TheOverlordEND

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it seems that SoP is a prequel to an alternate-universe version of FF1. I guess it's safe to assume that this universe (SOP and upcoming plot of its own FF1) is its own thing. While similar to the original FF1 for being its parallel universe, SOP doesn't tie to the OG FF1. Nor it is tied to Dissidia version of Garland. In short, all the cast in SoP is a parallel universe version of an already established character in the past.

@Bahamut998

Жыл бұрын

@@TheOverlordENDyou’re wrong. Ff1 is a direct consequence of Jack garlands actions. He rid the world of lufenians and warrior of light finally succeeded in eradicating darkness.

Wait, wait so the other garland is different? Also dissidia is canon? In this is basically the sequel to dissidia? Need elaboration here lol

@JB6GD684

Жыл бұрын

He isn’t garland…yet

@justinorper6298

Жыл бұрын

This a prequel from my understanding there are two endings jack beats the Emperor and becomes a god later in dissidia , the other were jack leaves and becomes garland gets killed by Wol the time loop is destroyed and garland wakes up in dissidia duodesum both endings are canon.

@dstar9016

Жыл бұрын

@@justinorper6298 ah ic, I get it the only thing that makes me think it was somewhat like a sequel is cause MOG said he was from a time where the warriors fought but was sent back in to stop the dimension from being destroyed, So I guess it created multiple time branches.

@orrthehunter

Жыл бұрын

@@dstar9016 It is both being both FF1 and Dissidia are sequels. Jack needed to create two versions of himself so he can complete his plan being his God self which will die in Dissidia but by doing so made certain no other FF villains can enter the world of FF1 until his plans are complete and his normal FF1 Garland self to create the cycle. The side effects of this plan Post-FF1 is shown in Dissidia Opera Omnia which lead to the birth of a Living Will that manifested itself as FF1 Garland now trapped in the world of Dissidia seeking a endless cycle of combat while Jack gets a new life in the new timeline created by FF1 ending.

@TheSwordsman100

Жыл бұрын

OK this is a doozy but yes Dissdia is canon, it is even the origin of the main Warrior of Light and I'll try to explain this best I can. Pt 1 So you know how the Lufreians were evil in this game and created a version of Chaos to control darkness and pump it into Cornelia to keep "balance" that Garland later destroys and takes the place of? Well they also had FF1's version of Cid and his wife create a sapient manikin (who I will mostly refer to as Spirtus to make it less confusing) to serve as a weapon to wipe out the FF1 world's summons. However Cid and his wife became attached to this manikin and began to have second thoughts so the Lufreians murdered his wife and created a manikin double of her to keep Spirtus in line and under their control. Cid in response took Spirtus and his wife's double into the Rift where they met Shinryu, the Luferians mysterious collaborator. There Cid made a deal with Shinryu, in payment of elevating Spirtus and the double of his wife into gods that would endlessly war with each other till Spirtus was strong enough to wipe Cid's original world from existence out of revenge and create a parallel world for them to do this, (World B) Cid would summon warriors across the Rift and only observe the conflict, while Shinryu would feed on the defeated summoned warriors memories. To help with this Garland was plucked from his time loop to train Spirtus into becoming the god of discord, Chaos, while the other manikin became Cosmos. Cycles go by and Cid returns to his senses, trying to rule lawyer Shinryu by creating a manikin double of himself to join the fight, the Warrior of Light. However, the WoL isn't enough to turn the tide of battle but he and the other warriors do impact Cosmos enough for her to care about them, resulting in her and Cid coming together to break the cycle and the deal by having both gods die and Cid transporting the warriors home. Shinryu of course isn't pleased and turns Cid into a moogle while also locking him into a nightmare, Cid is saved and the original Dissidia ends with WoL heading to Cornelia castle, becoming one of the 4 actual Warriors of Light.

Wait, so Jack Garland is to become Dissidia's Chaos then, if im understanding this right? That... kind of flies in the face of all the established lore of Chaos being Cid's "Son". I thought this was cool, but now I leave with so many more questions. 😂

@foxtopuscreations6046

Жыл бұрын

You could probably headcanon that It's still true, since Jack is a Lufenian himself, maybe he is still Cid's son even if it's never mentioned. Otherwise it's just an alternate timeline.

@donhuea447

Жыл бұрын

From what I got this takes place after Dissidia012 where Chaos and Cosmos "die". The moogle basically wants Jack to become Chaos' succesor and become the new god of discord and wants the Warrior of Light to become the new god of harmony in order to mantain balance after the original gods died or something.

@Bahamut998

Жыл бұрын

No no no, different future is new different future for garland. He is to become chaos/god of discord, not the entity in original dissidia. He’s basically himself but with power of god. And warrior of light becomes god of harmony.

How many new missions/locations were there in the 3 dlcs? Other than bosses and randomised stuff

@bezerra2886

Жыл бұрын

One mission, 4 New bosses, 200 labyrinth floors, 1 new weapon (gun), 3 New Jobs based on guns, new moveset for previous bosses, 300 level cap for jobs, 999.999 cap for damage and a lot of grind

@Bahamut998

Жыл бұрын

@@bezerra2886 Is the rift 200 floor the max? Anyone ever got to last floor?

@bezerra2886

Жыл бұрын

@@Bahamut998the max floor is 99.999 and yes one guy reached it, but i think he used some hack

@Bahamut998

Жыл бұрын

@@bezerra2886 lol wtf...How about floor 200? How hard is that? How far did you go?

So basically this is setting up a brand new dissidia??

How do you even start the new missions? I have the DLC and I'm in Chaos mode but I don't see the new stuff for different future anywhere

@darrien1859

Жыл бұрын

You have to complete gilgamish difficult 1st

@dracul691

Жыл бұрын

@@darrien1859 Yeah I finally figured it all out.

@housinengi9512

Жыл бұрын

@@darrien1859 wait your telling me there's another difficulty on top of chaos and behemut and below lufsnian

@Bahamut998

Жыл бұрын

@@housinengi9512 Yes but it's only occuring in the rift. You have to complete Gilgamesh's rift for a number of floors until you can enter Lufenia DLC 3

Is that the same Omega from FFXV?

Huh no Firion?

JP audio when?

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Then wtf garland comeback again after getting wreck by wol. This narative is so confusing 😅

I'm a little confused on the story for this one. What is the "Different Future" that the characters talk about? Seems like there were two different outcomes.

@BuiRoyValdez

Жыл бұрын

One of the two futures is the dissidia timeline, where he becomes chaos, eventually is felled but is reborn for 13 cycles locked in combat against the other god Cosmos. Even when "freed" they're reborn again as Spiritus and the other as Materia. Free of Shinryu's machenations but having to fight ever more to maintain their world's life. The different future actually breaks free from it. Their power never truly grows beyond standard ff1's chaos. I'm not sure exactly what happens in this divergence path beyond that...Alas, we can say that The Emperor does retain the power they gained from the crystal...maybe someone else can fill in the blanks after?

@Bahamut998

Жыл бұрын

@@BuiRoyValdezrong my friend. Different future, Garland merged with the crystal to become god of discord. Warrior of light emerges as true wol and god of harmony. Emperor in this scenario gets defeated by garland and actually turned to human without magic power. In other words….he is basic human in ff2 world. Garland, warrior of light, and moogle end in their true future destiny together.

The lack of character development in this series of DLCs and the game in general is mind boggling.

Okay, so the emperor showing up and using the words “another dimension” basically made this games connection to Dissidia confirmed as well. So FF origins happens, then Dissidia, then FF1….. Just remake FF1 at this point, dude…..

@Bahamut998

Жыл бұрын

Wrong. You see the true ending to ff1 in sop dlc ending. Then another world with true garland, wol, moogle, happens. Not dissidia.

Is anyone playing on PS I could really use some help with one mission and maybe a few Rift like 4 stages please

Like Final fantasy 1 jack garland die..

this is NIER level of confusion all over again aannd I don't like it...well maybe I do...

YOU ARE NO WHERE NEAR JACK'S LEVEL EMPEROR.!?😠

JFC kupo. The English is almost comically bad, kupo.

@Sameruno

3 ай бұрын

weaboo detected

couldn't stand this game after i got to bahamut. i did a lot of hard fight feeling weaker,. this game realise to much on builds over skill got so annoying then i got the the labyrinth and said nope i hate floor challenges and i have to do it for watch the real ending. this whole game felt like i waste of money. if i knew the people behind that god awful nioh made it i wouldn't of bought it so here i am. watching cutscene never buying a product form them again

@neoskrieger

Жыл бұрын

Honestly I was tired when I reached rift 7 and just went in YT to watch the rest.

@Sameruno

3 ай бұрын

nioh devs can make good combat but they make it so bad with their builds and equipment systems

This is bullshit lmao The emperor is one if not the strongest antagonist of the entire final fantasy franchise ... but i guess squarenix needs to make thier new toy overpowered, once again, how they did with Lightning. Consistency has long left this franchise with the original creator and mind of final fantasy Sakaguchi. Also the game implies, with the ending narrated (which is by the way the original ending of final fantasy 1 which implied that you were the warriors of light who defeated garland) that this ending was meant for garland? and that you were garland and not the warrior of light who deafeated garland??? its so stupid and completely utter disrespect for the original idea. Basically FF7 remake plote garbage.

@JB6GD684

Жыл бұрын

New toy? He’s literally garland

@dstar9016

Жыл бұрын

Get over it, garland is the embodiment of "chaos" you sound like a fool thinking emperor can tank chaos all by myself.

@Bahamut998

Жыл бұрын

You're saying Garland is a "overpowered toy" lol? THE Garland who became Chaos? He and his fiends are God tier.

@Bahamut998

Жыл бұрын

Also, the ending of SOP is FF1 ending. Warriors of light (empowered by Bahamut) kill Garland.

@Sameruno

3 ай бұрын

bro literally beats up bahamut and tells him yo you're joining my cause