The way Jack dragged The Emperor back before he could escape again, followed up with the line “your reign is over” is a such a good way to end that fight.

I like how this further solidifies that other dimensions and timelines are canon in the FF story's. Meaning Garland has seen some sh*t during his millennia of existence. Even going to the edge of time where Chaos and Cosmos summoned their strongest in a War for all Creation. Dude just walked up to Chaos and said "Eh, so that's what I will look like in two-thousand years."

@JB6GD684

Жыл бұрын

Chaos in dissidia isn’t actually Garland, it’s just a manikin that happened to look like the demon Jack would become

@jefthereaper

Жыл бұрын

@@JB6GD684 Right, I rechecked my psp. From the reports and character files its noted that he's not a Manikin though. He's the son of he Lufenian Cid. Who preformed experiments to create powerful war machines and advancements for Lufenia. The Chaos project being one of them. As well as creating a Manikin based on his wife to become Cosmos. (And a very vague few statements alluding that the WoL might actually not be a normal Cornelian, but actually a Manekin based on Cid himself? but that last bit is very vague in my memory) The implications of that are even more interesting though, as that can be speculated that the original Chaos was created by the Lufenians themselves. So we can assume that if time would have progressed as normal, Dissidia Chaos would emerge eventually. Interestingly enough in a different split off timeline, Jack starts the Cycle where he destroys Lufenia (well to be fair, Nil destroyed Lufenia and Jack just kills her as the last Lufenian) and ironically achieves the same effect as Cid's experiment by merging with enough darkness and negativity to become Chaos. Now the real question remains to how this alternate timeline even came to be. (as Dissidia's Chaos is considered history to us as observers, that means a shift in "history" should be impossible unless there is outside influence) So my money is on the "benefactor", who is likely Shinryu. Though why it would interfere and nudge the flow of time in a different direction is still a mystery. Especially as changing time does not seem to nullify things that "technically" have already happened. (as the Emperor, moogle and others clearly remember events from Dissidia.) This version of Garland is also much stronger, considering he's not even undergoing the Chaos transformation like he was in Dissidia (much bulkier, and his alternate costume showing his supposed semi-chaos form under his armor) Yet Jack's still strong enough to kick the Emperor's ass who just escaped from the Dissidia war. That likely also means the WoL from this timeline is going to be MUCH stronger then the previous cycles. Yes I'm getting way to absorbed into this again.

Emperor Mateus is one of my favorite villains in genre, I hope FFII will get it's remake one day.

@seiken_pen_artist

Жыл бұрын

I agree with you, either a remake FFII or another stranger of paradise but FFII origin story.

@LordExor

Жыл бұрын

@@seiken_pen_artist I'd love an FFII remake. It'd be pretty dark and depressing.

@Bahamut998

Жыл бұрын

Literally all the FF pixel games (1-6) are great.

@mr.j3rs3y

Жыл бұрын

@@seiken_pen_artist I thought of that too! I’d love a Stranger of Paradise FF2

It's cool to see Mateus carrying over some of his moves from Dissidia for this boss fight. And the Flare XVI was a nice touch as well.

Jesus JACK. "Shut the fuck up." *Breaks* xD

I really need that remix of the emperor theme that was such a banger

@BuffMaister

Жыл бұрын

I'll do Boss osts tomorrow.

This one scene has so many Dissidia references.

Yooo dat transition from phase 1 to 2! DOO’s Jack’s FR but with the pay off of finally hitting Mateus!!! Actually started playing Dissidia OO because of Garland I feel bad that I took so long to play it!

@MagoofyPlays

Жыл бұрын

Its crazy that we knew nothing about this fight when he originally came out in JP its INSANE

0:46 holy shit that was awesome

So... lemme get this straight. According to Nomura, Jack Garland is _not_ the Garland from the original _Final Fantasy_ game, but an alternate version thereof... but Gilgamesh and Emperor Mateus mistake him for the original Garland, who they met in the _Dissidia_ games, and the Moogle (Cid?) from the _Dissidia_ games wants Jack Garland to become the next God of Discord following Spiritus?

@JB6GD684

Жыл бұрын

I think in the opera Omnia game it was said that dissidia garland was born of Jack’s will

@Batcena

Жыл бұрын

​@@JB6GD684 "I hated chaos so much that I willed chaos into existing because of my hatred"

Dude yeets the Final boss of a Final Fantasy game

@gallaxseizor9216

8 ай бұрын

But isnt Jack technically the Final boss of the orginal final fantasy game

Ohhhh shit, so if the emperor is now a regular person, now can we get a game with him as protagonist??!?!? ohhh boy, FF villain verse in looking good.

@LordExor

Жыл бұрын

He's too much of a unrepentant megalomaniac for that.

@ericotness6147

Жыл бұрын

@@LordExor To be fair, so was Bahamut in Dawn of the Future, yet he's now a good guy thanks in large part to being humiliated by both Noctis and Ardyn (in case you're wondering, it's heavily implied the Bahamut in this game is the same one from FFXV, and by extension from Dawn of the Future not just in terms of physical appearance, but also his backstory). If they can make Bahamut a good guy DESPITE what he did in Dawn of the Future, making the Emperor develop into a good guy isn't going to require much effort. Heck, Disney actually DID exactly that with Maleficent recently (not that I WANTED her to be turned good, though, but still...), and she has even LESS chances of actually BECOMING good (at least the Emperor had arguable demonic possession as an excuse if we go by that novel, Maleficent was basically Damien Thorpe.).

@LordExor

Жыл бұрын

@@ericotness6147 You can turn anyone into a good guy. You can make Palpatine-which the Emperor is partly based on-into a good guy. Is it sensical? Is it warranted? No. Final Fantasy has dozens of villains that are already sympathetic or redeemable, you don't need to make absolutely all of them conform to that cookie-cutter mold.

@ericotness6147

Жыл бұрын

@@LordExor Like I said, they turned Bahamut into a good guy in this, and not just any Bahamut, the one from FFXV that was revealed to be a really nasty guy in Dawn of the Future. Claiming a villain's too unsympathetic to be turned good isn't going to cut it unfortunately, not after he was turned into a good guy in this game despite it being his least sympathetic characterization. And funny you should reference Palpatine, though... After George Lucas explicitly modeled Palpatine and his Empire on America, and Nixon in particular, and modeled the "heroes", the Rebel Alliance, after the Vietcong, I'm actually a bit MORE likely to view Palpatine as being an actual good guy thanks to that really sick, depraved action Lucas did. Even moreso when Lucas explicitly and deliberately based the "good guys" on terrorists by his own admission recently. Bashing Nixon's one thing, but modeling the good guys after a blatantly communist terror group?! Palpatine being a good guy is CERTAINLY more sensible and warranted than modeling the actual good guys of Star Wars after Communists, the guys who kill people for fun per Marxist ideology.

@LordExor

Жыл бұрын

@@ericotness6147 It's a heinous oversimplification to cite Nixon as Palpatine's sole influence, unless you think Nixon was a sadistic cackling space Satan with glowing eyes and red and black cloaks. And yes, saying a villain is too unsympathetic for a Heel-Face Turn is perfectly valid. You can leverage the power of awful writing all you want to force a square peg into a round hole, but that doesn't mean it's rational, justified, or good sense. You can't salvage everyone. In the case of the Emperor, Square-Enix has had 34 years to give him a redemption, and they've resisted the urge every time he's made a reappearance. They understand his niche in the pantheon of FF villainy, and what makes him an appealing character.

I think Jack has become my favorite villain now! He seems so unstoppable! I doubt even Sephiroth could defeat Jack!

@gabrielsalas8227

Жыл бұрын

more than villain he is an anti hero ( not antagonist as that refers he opposes to the protagonist and despite that being protagonist of an adventure is ambiguous , he is in the end the dark hero that tries to rectify the sins of the lufenians by helping the heroes of light by being the final trial )

@justinjones1475

Жыл бұрын

Sephiroth is only threatening if you're Cloud or have some connection to Cloud

@gabrielsalas8227

Жыл бұрын

@@justinjones1475 or if you're an ancient

@OrganizationXIII

Жыл бұрын

@@gabrielsalas8227 It’s to my understanding that the Warriors of Light are the good guys and chaos aka Jack is the bad guy! But In this game he’s the anti hero like Shadow the hedgehog or Sasuke Uchiha! But isn’t Jack supposed to die at some point? In this game we don’t see him die and he kills the warrior of light!

@OrganizationXIII

Жыл бұрын

@@justinjones1475 didn’t sephiroth try to destroy the world and all of Midgar! Until cloud rose up to the occasion and stopped him!

Man that ending is major sequel baiting....right into dissidia though from the looks of it Opera Omnia maybe

So garland is a God now basically

@deathbykonami5487

Жыл бұрын

No, He just broke the shackles the Lufenians had on Corneria. He still positions himself as the focal point of all the Chaos in the world for the Warriors of Light to kill.

@Batcena

Жыл бұрын

This is a different timeline, in the first mission he doesn't take the crystal but in this one he does

That ending is a perfect reference to the Act 4 of Dissidia Final Fantasy Opera Omnia! Ah, I love it!

Eu senti até como se fosse Dissidia... E o Moogle ainda falou de Chaos como um deus. Eu queria tanto uma versão com Emperor mais jovem pintando o terror no mundo dele, mas também gostaria de ver outros com Cloud of Darkness, Zemus, Exdeath, Kefka e Ultimecia.

@warrior_of_light

Жыл бұрын

Eu também, gostaria de ter visto o 1 também assim, mas pelo que vi parece que no fim a jornada do WoL já esta acontecendo em paralelo ou simplesmente não é contada e pula pro final dela na luta final

@GabrielOliveira-sx1tg

2 ай бұрын

esse game basicamente canoniza o dissidia po, é só prestar atenção na lore, fica mais explicito nas DLC's, e o dissidia canoniza que todos os FF's podem fazer parte de um multiverso, algo do tipo, cada um em sua terra, tendo a possibilidade de se encontrarem em ocasiões especificas.

Really wish I had the time to grind this game so I could play the dlc!

UGAAHHH!!! Well he didn't ugah that now. But it's a ugahh

When attacking Emperor sometimes says "into the Stygian Abyss." I think this might be a reference to the Ultima series

@greatrieck

Жыл бұрын

A lot of his abilities in FF2 were a reference to Ultima honestly.

@drethemage9559

Жыл бұрын

​@@greatrieck Heck. There's a spell called Ultima in FF2.

Please upload the music, buddy. It's easily one of the best versions off FF2 Battle 2.

@BuffMaister

Жыл бұрын

Tomorrow.

@georgehouliaras7239

Жыл бұрын

@@BuffMaister Thank you.

@nickneckerman2220

Жыл бұрын

@@BuffMaister what class are you using

@BuffMaister

Жыл бұрын

Dark Knight, with nothing special being used.

From all this chaos .. it makes me want him to encounter Caius and be surprised to a dead god behind him ..

Maybe we'll get a Stranger of Paradise 2 where we play as Mateus

Elden Ring PVP against an INT build be like:

I don't know why they included him. It makes me think they're planning a FF2 remake.

Saix: *Tries to escape with the dark corridor* Jack: *Grabs his head and pounds his face on the floor repeatedly and stomping his face* YOUR NOT GETTING AWAY TIS EASILY!!!!!! Saix: HOW DID HE ABLE TO PULL ME OUT!?!?!?!?!

Sir Gideon Ofnir, Odin and Emperor are typical mage build.

Is the helmet there? Can you show a couple scenes with it on?

@BuffMaister

Жыл бұрын

The whole set is there, I just never put any helmet on becuase it blocks the face expressions.

@emilecaitan2067

Жыл бұрын

@@BuffMaister I understand, but to see the Garland armor without the helmet feels incomplete.

The Emperor has the face of Warrior of Light LOL

@DFK_Edits

Жыл бұрын

If warrior of the Light is a emperor mateus due his face, then it makes a sence, like after beating garland the lord of darkness, the shadow twisting his mind Its like a theory

@Can_O_Crayola

Жыл бұрын

Tbf, both classic Warrior of Light and the Emperor have that David Bowie look that the classical FF artwork tends to give them.

@hoangaget5017

Жыл бұрын

I think so too, from the eye pupil, the horn in head design, after Jack threw the Emperor out the WOL unlock new phase which look somewhat evil to me, if my theory is correct: The ending in this video is when Jack unintentionally took the Crystal, with the Emperor became Warrior of Light, the Loop now can be broken. Also, I think Jack became the same Garland in Dissidia 'cause it is now the same Future as Kupo mentioned. Honestly, without Jack taking the Crystal, I think it means the Loop will go on forever without someone strong enough to break it, and things will never be the same as they are meant to be... I love in the final showcase when the two face off and the Narrative said: "...power of light should not be used for dark...", like Jack giving the Emperor (Now WOL) a final warning!!!

@jewellcleveland2226

Жыл бұрын

@@DFK_Edits the question is, is this Emperor Mateus a variant or one that comes from Dissidia NT, Opera Omnia, or FF2?

@DFK_Edits

Жыл бұрын

@@jewellcleveland2226 the second option i guess

12:38 Yeetus Mateus 😂

The question I have is where did this Emperor come from? Did he come directly from FFII? Dissidia NT? Dissidia OO? That’s the question I wanna know. And the second question is where did Jack yeet him to? I just wanna know what happens to him since he no longer has powers. Is it possible that Emperor becomes something else that we don’t know of? Would he become a good guy or at least an antihero?

@BuffMaister

Жыл бұрын

There should be some comments around on videos by people that played Opera Omnia, that this is connected to the mobile game as the story continues there. As I have recently played Dissidia for the psp, it could him, unless that is connected to NT.

@Bahamut998

Жыл бұрын

Not knowledgeable on this, but I think he took him from FFII and yeeted him back to FFII where the main crew beats him.

@jewellcleveland2226

Жыл бұрын

@@Bahamut998 but he is yeeted back into FFII without any magic. How could he go against Firion and the rest of the rebels without his magic? Wouldn’t it take a while to regain his powers?

@randomperson9583

11 ай бұрын

​@@jewellcleveland2226that means garland messed up the way the timeline was originally going meaning that now since the emperor is a regular person he is easily beaten up? Atleast thats what i think since i barely know anything ab stranger of paradise amd whats going on

How do you unlock the Garland armor and greatsword? Wanting it so badly

@BuffMaister

Жыл бұрын

Beat transcendent boss, it drops the full set.

@DFK_Edits

Жыл бұрын

@@BuffMaister where jack's helmet as garland?

@BuffMaister

Жыл бұрын

In my inventory. kzread.info/dash/bejne/fJ2umLiqk7mzlpc.html

Does this mean there will be a dissidia remake?

@elizabethchint2391

Жыл бұрын

Unless they make a good story mode, they can keep it.

@Dzzy123

Жыл бұрын

They should just remaster 012.

Bossfight with ardyn would be interesting

Huh? This on DLC? Never found this cutscenes

The game is nearing its end, but Tetsuya Nomura is messing with it.

@alloneness6956

Жыл бұрын

He ruined the identity of the storyline..both FFI and FFII

@gabp8354

Жыл бұрын

Wait, so this isnt the final DLC?

@bobkys7916

Жыл бұрын

@@alloneness6956 you're trippin

@nelosparda4798

Жыл бұрын

@@alloneness6956 dude......HIS NOT EVEN THE WRITER OF THIS GAME

@alloneness6956

Жыл бұрын

@@nelosparda4798 who was the producer? Do you think there is no interference from Nomura? From Square enix? bullshit talk

YOU AGAIN YOU NEVER GIVE UP DO I WILL NEVER SERVE AND BOW DOWN TO YOU EMPEROR.!?😡

So hes just using his dissidia lines for the most part. Pretty good use of old assets they just had laying around. This does make me miss the game a bit tho. Online definitely had its issues but those good matches where both teams were going at it felt great.

So this is Dissidia now?

...what? but isnt the Emperor a Final Fantasy 2 boss

@xSimplyEex

Жыл бұрын

In dissida(psp and ps4 game) there's dimensional loops too. Some villains and heroes remember what happened in dissida when they get sent back to their original world. Emperor was always scheming to be chaos or a God in those games.

If the Emperor's powers are gone after Jack defeated him, shouldn't his outfit change too? I assumed that he had that kind of outfit because of the power that he possessed, like we should've seen the Emperor's normal look then lol.

@muffetmissulena6540

Жыл бұрын

I don’t see why since it’s never been implied that his outfit was tied to his magic. It’s moreso that he just thinks himself better than everyone so he dresses the part.

This is a slap in the face to Final Fantasy 2.

delete deviant art sell it to robert pattinson :)

After watching the latest "FF" today, I had to return to "FF 2" and "Tactics". And it is as I suspected. The thing is, "FF 2" and "FF: Tactics" were also based on "Game of Thrones" (or at least it was similar to the point the fandom makes constant comparisons between the show and the two "FFs"). This game doesn't feel right. It feels like a reboot/copy paste of sorts of both games. Olivier for example is an inferior copy of Emperor Matheus. Because the Emperor was actually a fascinating character to study. With Olivier, we only got a puppet to look at until Ultima shows up. Where's the fun in that ? And the political conflict ? "Tactics" handled it better. Dycedarg for example was a sick strayegist. Clive and Joshua's mother is simply a Karen like most people pointed out. Nothing special that makes her a fantasy level villain. I might as well have watched some soap opera if all she was gonna be was a toxic housewife/mother figure.

Hopefully this game will soon die and be forgotten, jfc

@SetsunaBlueRose

Жыл бұрын

So there is some sanity around here

@apollonck9931

Жыл бұрын

Phenomenally awful taste

@skittles664

Жыл бұрын

Jfc?

@IrvineKinneas8882

Жыл бұрын

@@skittles664 Jfc="Jesus fucking christ"

@dstar9016

Жыл бұрын

Love this game

Nojima should be thrown out of the company. He's as bad as the writers of World of Warcraft: Shadowlands now. X was his peak, this is him bastardizing other people's works. I am so afraid of VIIR's story now, having him at the helm along with Nomura.

@nathanielranney9163

Жыл бұрын

God sake. even when Nomura isn't involved in the writing people still blame him. Jin Fujiwara was Lead producer and Nojima was the writer. Nomura was creative producer which meant he managed the art stuff. Ease your hate boner my guy. Edit: also in a Famicom interview, Kitase stated that the changes in FFVIIR are Nojima's doing. Nomura just wanted a remake. Hell he didn't even know he was a director until they announced he was.. So if you want a straight remake have Nojima thrown instead.

@budakbaongsiah

Жыл бұрын

@@nathanielranney9163 Mate, read my comment again and not just the last part. I AM blaming Nojima. I know that he's the lead writer of VIIR and this. Also as you said, Nomura is still the director of VIIR. I am partially blaming him from the mad shenanigans in VIIR but the main blame lies in Nojima and Fujiwara. FYI I don't hate the remake, but it's almost clear that it's a sequel of the last part of the entire anthology of VII because both Sephiroth and Aerith know what is going on, what have happened, what might happen, and what will happen. VIIR is them playing a New Game+.

@nathanielranney9163

Жыл бұрын

@@budakbaongsiah oh sorry dude. It was 2 am when I read that and l was so tired I misread that. My bad.

@nathanielranney9163

Жыл бұрын

@@budakbaongsiah I'm so used to people reflexively scapegoating (see further up in the comments here) the dude that my brain immediately read Nomura instead of Nojima.

@budakbaongsiah

Жыл бұрын

@@nathanielranney9163 Note to self: don't comment on things while tired