Havel's armour was cut from a large stone slab as stated by the shield which seems to be of the same material. Also his ring allows the wearer to carry a lot more weight so that is likely the magic allowing it to move or even be worn. So yes it is very fantasy

@AceKylar

8 жыл бұрын

favor and protection~~~

@theweirdlyfriendlymushroom7920

8 жыл бұрын

+Ioseph Stalin I used to Play with a shotel in the left hand and a hammer in the right hand. Are you proud of me?

@AceKylar

8 жыл бұрын

V Vestigia della Vox populi Vodka urn?

@theweirdlyfriendlymushroom7920

8 жыл бұрын

Ioseph Stalin alway in the estus.

@AceKylar

8 жыл бұрын

V Vestigia della Vox populi mustache?

"The pauldrons are too big" good thing you don't evaluate "World of Warcraft" armours xD

@algirdassalomskas9050

8 жыл бұрын

those armours have bathtubs for pauldrons Q . Q

@cityassassin

8 жыл бұрын

Someone has been playing Heroes of Might and Magic 3. :з Great game, that one.

@DeutscherDummer

7 жыл бұрын

Don't even get me started on Warhammer. Pauldrons are 50 percent of those armors.

@nomadalien1

6 жыл бұрын

Strictly speaking WH40k Sphesssmehreeen armour can be explained due to you know... projectile weapons. Massive pauldrons protect the head and neck from the sides and the backpack protects the back of the head and the spine etc. The Mehreeens also have super-human senses, reflexes, strength and so on, as such the only thing that can really get to them like that is a surprise attack from where they cant see. Previously mentioned super-human thingies also apparently cover for any issues that come from not being able to see jack shit.... dunno, i played Necrons. I do realise this is an ancient comment chain but what the hell eh?

@einarblood-axe5172

6 жыл бұрын

I hate that so much. The high pauldron size and foot size and tiny head size in Blizzard games annoys me to the highest degree.

Havels armor is defiantly not for normal people, special training and a magic ring and it still slows you down immensely wearing it.

@iopklmification

8 жыл бұрын

+doomlord117 The ring has literally no point for Havel since he's fat rolling when wearing it.

@aizaz1234

8 жыл бұрын

iopklmification It takes something like 45 endurance, havels ring and favor and protection to med roll in all of havels stuff. He really is just wearing big ass rocks, and his weapon and shield are also big ass rocks. I'm not sure he could roll at all without the ring.

@RaineAmorie

8 жыл бұрын

+doomlord117 Well technically his weapon is a broken dragon's fang if I recall correctly. Still your point stands, his armor and shield are essentially just carved up boulders. Havel himself arguably wasn't 100% human though, given the demi-godlike nature of a lot of the lore characters.

@drizzt7dourden7

7 жыл бұрын

i agree that he wasnt 100% human but i wouldnt call him demi god like. If i recall correctly havel and his followers were (basicly) the churches powered up super soldiers to fight against the arcane users. they had to undergo harsh training and most likely body enhancements via miricals

@racoon965

7 жыл бұрын

His followers were super soldiers but bishop havel himself was probably part of the same race/species/genus whatever as ornstein, artorias etc. It states in the ring description it was a gift from havel to his men to inspire and help them. "This ring was named after Havel the Rock, Lord Gwyn's old battlefield compatriot. Havel's men wore the ring to express faith in their leader and to carry a heavier load." Havel being lord gwyn's OLD battlefield compatriot is further evidence of him being god like, if he's fighting side by side with an actual god and has a similar lifespan, it also shows havel didn't need no fuckign rings bithc he has all the stamina, health and endurance he could ever want.

I think you got the hollow warrior armor all wrong, it's not just picking up whatever armor fits, they have been wearing that armor for hundreds of years because they just don't die, and it has been degrading over time

@chasefoxx

8 жыл бұрын

+BlarghMeow i think he meant the player character picking it up, not the hollow

@metatronyt

8 жыл бұрын

+BlarghMeow I ment the player picking it up

@BattlerEvil

8 жыл бұрын

+Metatron Isn't 1:57 Maximillian Armor from 16th century? Because Normally Gothic Plate Suits have Armets and the ridges are not curved like it is here (probably because the most known gothic plate armor is around 15th century i assume?) [by the way, maximilian armor is gothic armor am just saying]

@acuerdox

8 жыл бұрын

+Metatron I have seen a video of some hardened leather resisting all kinds of axes and swords. I can look for it if u want.

@BattlerEvil

8 жыл бұрын

acuerdox Hardened Leather? uhh no.. Boiled Leather? Yes, that is possible, hardened leather is still quite soft..

In defense of the Havel set, it is stated in the game that no ordinary human could wear it. It was made to withstand the attacks of a dragon and that's pretty much why Havel was known through the kingdom(when the kingdom was alive and well) and I guess Havel was sort of a demigod too since his best friend was sort of a god (Gwyn, Lord of Cinders).

@3rd-helix

7 жыл бұрын

Giovanny Linares Also the ring he made that probable made it lighter to carry

@StephanuSneed

3 жыл бұрын

Havel wasn't a demi-god, he was a full-fledged god from the same race/species Gwyn and the silver knights come from. Him being a bishop was a localization error, the original Japanese text stated that Havel had bishops under his command, not that he was one.

@BookieBrewster

Жыл бұрын

I think it's odd they gave him a hammer to kill dragons loll. How can a bone hammer kill a dragon

I always thought the elite knight chestpiece was the same as the knight chestplate but with an added tunic. And the mail seems to be a part of the leggings. Either way, I'm really loving this so far :)

I was under the impression that elite knight armor has plate underneath the cloth in the same fashion as normal knight armor. I could be mistaken however. EDIT: Also my favorite sets are the Silver Knight and Elite Knight/normal Knight sets out of the ten. The are actually more or less some of my favorites overall as well.

the reason why the hollows continue wearing their armor after it is broken is because they are trying to hold onto their identity as it crumbles away. and the reason why the player wears it is because he is a hoarder who likes to dress up. also it's the only armor sets that looks sexy for the female characters while still providing some protection.

@iopklmification

8 жыл бұрын

+GameSquid Mail armour disagrees.

@HimslGames

8 жыл бұрын

a chainmail fetish, very interessting

@knechtor5648

8 жыл бұрын

+GameSquid literally me

@NoahWeisbrod

8 жыл бұрын

dat smough's set doe...

@HimslGames

8 жыл бұрын

so I can't enjoy dressing up my character in sexy ways cause you deem it unworthy? do you even know how dumb your statement is? what do you not enjoy video games? character customization? attractive depictions of women? porn isn't the only thing that is enjoyable about the female form. sometimes some clothes is more attractive then no clothes.

the reason for the mix you see in dark souls, is because the fabric of time is thin with all sorts of warriors from different times running about.

@josephstalin9939

7 жыл бұрын

Eh not really, more like the developers liked the looks of different armours. Also alot of these kingdoms have been gone for years so the hollows left over didn't exactly think about upgrading there armour.

@DaddyVeo1911

7 жыл бұрын

EXPLOSIVE STRAWBERRY then explain the hollows with better armor then.

@josephstalin9939

7 жыл бұрын

They went hollow with that armour on, I don't see what you are trying to say.

@j.murphy4884

7 жыл бұрын

The game literally tells you that the flow of time in Lordran "is convoluted, with heroes centuries old phasing in and out. The very fabric wavers, and relations shift and obscure."

@josephstalin9939

7 жыл бұрын

J. Murphy But my idea makes more sense, you don't need to fuck with time to get to my final point. And over all the time is convoluted idea is more of a fallback excuse to explain multiplayer.

Solaire was a self taught knight, who made his armour by his own hands painted it as well.

I like this series and I hope you continue it. Aesthetically speaking the elite knight set is my favorite but if I was going into battle I'd pick the standard Knight's set.

Huh, I alsways assumed there was a brigandine or something underneath the Elite Knight Set's tabard.

damn... why no continuation?

@somedudewatchintv5297

7 жыл бұрын

Alker of Abyss people didn't show enough interest I guess.

@michaeldschutte

5 жыл бұрын

Also waiting for part 2

@cheesychipmunk8382

5 жыл бұрын

Michael Daniel Schutte 2 years later...

@michaeldschutte

5 жыл бұрын

CHEESY CHIPMUNK EXACTLY!! 😂

@purpnurp533

5 жыл бұрын

Right?! Found this and got half way before I realized I was headed for a cliff I didn't want to hang off of...

Vision of Sadness : No fat onions

When will you make parts 2 and 3?

@hayabusa5930

7 жыл бұрын

Still waiting e.e

@IrvineTheHunter

7 жыл бұрын

I don't think he lost interest this video bombed similar video's he produced later have 4-5 times the views. It's just not worth it.

@michaelcrabtree9409

5 жыл бұрын

Still waiting

@shadow905100

5 жыл бұрын

Still waiting

@fenixremind

5 жыл бұрын

Still waiting

*Mettaton* (Iron Bracelet): hand would be easy target to get shot by arrow *Me* : unless you good at spamming lightning spear and good at spamming estoc then...... you don't need hand protection

I really like this video Metatron. The most interesting part of your channel for me is when you evaluate fantasy games based on historical knowledge. As a big Dark Souls fan i can definitely see this becoming one of my favourite series on youtube. Please consider making more videos for the rest of the series.

This is exactly the video I've been waiting for for years. I love Dark Souls, and the armors within, and I've always wanted to know how practical they were. Good job.

Duuude I been wanting you to make this video!!!!! I'm so glad you did

@metatronyt

8 жыл бұрын

+Jarl Balgruuf I'm glad you enjoyed it :D

I realy waited for this!! Looking forward to the next parts

I'm happy that you're uploading daily, Raff! Great video!

Catarina set should be fun hehe

@hitokiriizo

8 жыл бұрын

It did exist belive it or not. Though it wasn't as bulky.

Elite Knight set is my fav! I've been using it as my main armor since DS1

Good points! Just inside the games lore, the apocalyptic situation the world is going through distorts time. Solaire's chainmail and great-helm are out of date because he's probably been sucked into the players gameworld from a different time and place.

@bartekkko

7 жыл бұрын

Cocalin it's also entirely possible that it's the 16th,17th century and some people have been undead for 700 years. But then again, gwyn's knights have relatively modern armor and they're like the oldest enemies that exist. Time flows strangely in lordran and 10 month old comments can still get replies

@roblaquiere8220

7 жыл бұрын

Since time flows strangely in Lordran, and there is no time "line" to speak of, can we assume anything past or future in Lordran? Perhaps there was no first flame... the first flame was actually a later flame sent back in time... that then caused the events that caused itself. Like the song of time in Zelda, where the fuck did it originally come from???

@jooot_6850

2 жыл бұрын

@@bartekkko Relationships shift and obscure, replies phase in and out of our world…

Pretty cool seeing your thoughts on the different armor styles in the game. That's always been one of my favorite parts, how they're based more on real armor than total fantasy stuff (for the most part). Would love to see you do the rest of the armor sets sometime.

Praise the sun and the Metatron. Umbassa!

@metatronyt

8 жыл бұрын

ahah :D

@seb2750

7 жыл бұрын

+Metatron Have the Metatron found his sun yet?

@justnoob8141

7 жыл бұрын

Metatron where is part 2?

Very thorough evaluation. Thank you! I have never played these games, but would like to based on this video. I really enjoy realism (done well) in video games, and so am fondest of the basic knight set.

Is there no part 2? I can't find it.

@griffin1095

7 жыл бұрын

I guess not, was really excited to see the brass set.

Metatron this Video is awesome. I love Dark Souls and its Armor Design. It´s very interesting to see a evaluation to medievel armors of our world.

havels set would weigh a lot more then 200 kilos i think since its made of solid stone

@Oisilky

8 жыл бұрын

It's implied to be dragon bone.... which I guess in this game is stone...

@jerec1267

8 жыл бұрын

+Dayle Armstrong (Silky Goodness) nope it's just a slab of concrete

@RyuFireheart

8 жыл бұрын

+Pumpal It really looks as stone in the first game, but in DS2 it has a metal look for some reason.

@Hafer_

8 жыл бұрын

+Dayle Armstrong (Silky Goodness) No, the in game description explicitly says "carved from solid rock" and it was dragon scales that were made of stone

@Hafer_

8 жыл бұрын

+Jerec 12 Concrete =/= Rock

I really hope that you continue this series. I love it, maybe after that you can do demon's souls , it has some pretty cool armours

Maaan this channel is growing so fast! It was yesterday when you had less than 5.000 subscribers! I have to say that it is deserved, your channel has very high quality vídeos and it is only getting better. Keep up the great work and sorry for any english hiccups as it is not my mother tongue.

@metatronyt

8 жыл бұрын

+tebweb1 thank you so much! :3

I'm so glad that you did this! thanks m8

@FlibbityGibbitGaming

8 жыл бұрын

Silver Knight, btw

I love dark souls and I love your channel! Great video, I like the black knight armor the most.

great commentary metatron. I find it awesome that you like dark souls.

great video! looking forward to seeing more

Awesome video, metatron! After doing Dark Souls and Skyrim/Oblivion, I'd love to see you take a gander at the witcher armor and weaponry too! Cheers from Brazil, mate! Keep up the good work!

Keep it up Metatron ! I really like to see you evaluate the armour sets from Demon and Dark Souls series, because these games are from the few that have historical inspired armors.

Totally continue, great series!

awesome video! I love it when people break down games like dark souls. My favorite armor set would be the elite knight set, based completely on looks.

Inizio col dire, complimenti per il canale, mi mancava proprio uno youtuber che valutava per filo e per segno armature e armi medievali... videogiochi poi, la ciliegina sulla torta. a quando la parte 2? attendo con trepidazione la valutazione dell'armatura d'ottone!. veramente un ottimo lavoro, carry on!

Been waiting for a while for you to do dark souls armor!

Really lovednthis video, hope to see a new one soon!

Thanks for the video that grants more insight to what we love. In the Elite Knight set I always thought that there would be a chest plate hidden beneath the tabard, but it probably does not exist. I really liked the Silver Knight set from Anor Londo. I would definitely be interested in seeing more.

Make another one! This is really interesting to watch

yassss I have been waiting for this.

elite knight set ftw! :D also like the black knight set.... keep up the good work :)

I love your videos, please keep doing more. Buona fortuna.

This looks pretty good, I'd be glad to see more episodes of this. (big dark souls fan) One criticism: when you get to the more "fantasy" outlandish armors still give an evaluation of their protection levels as if worn by a humanoid who can carry that weight. (Havel was a human but wore a magic ring that allowed him to wear super heavy armor, this ring can be your excuse going forward for heavy sets) Havels set is supposed to be made of stone, (but is actually the scales of the stone dragons) and that was not addressed.

Just adding a comment because I found this after playing dark souls, and then finding random videos on armor and parrying, but I was interested in the real versions of these games. I know you made this long ago, but it was very interesting to hear real, historic input applied to these fantasy games. It was great to hear how the reality of armor would apply to the combat of swords and armor

Thank you for making these videos!! as an avid dark souls player and aspiring concept artist i always question these things thanks!

Awesome! :D I'm one of the people who requested you do a dark souls historical video. I'm a huge fan of history and dark souls so this is great. If I had to take one of these sets into battle, it would be the silver knight set. Oh and the "plates" on Havel's armor are solid stone... somehow. I failed Geology class so don't ask me.

I bet a million bucks you will love the new sets in Dark Souls 3. Also they have sabers that allow you to keep your shield up while blocking. When I first learned of this I immediately thought of one of your sword technique videos.

Please continue! I'm dying for you to evaluate DS2 armor.

I'd love to see you comment about the favor set, worn by Lautrec of Carim. It's one of the best looking sets in the game in my opinion. Artorias set is also quite nice. great video btw, keep up the good work!

I really enjoyed the video metatron. I hope you will do dark souls 2 and 3 in the future.

I love this video. I wish you'd do some more sets from 2 and 3.

damn, I've searched so long for a channel like this. Finally found it ^^

more please, these are really great. As for my favorite set, probably the Silver knight with an elite knight's helmet or a great helm.

Metraton, about armours designs from different centeries, it's possible that there's an explanation in the game's lore given by Solaire. He says "In Lordran, the flow of time is distorted. The flow of time itself is convoluted; with heroes centuries old phasing in and out". So I gues it's possible that the Elite Knight's armour seen in the game is from an older time (I think you find it in a corpse) and the Knight's armour is from a later time. Great job! Looking foward for next one!

@johnbradley2343

8 жыл бұрын

Particularly with the presence of undead and various immortal beings that have overstayed their welcome. It's implied that the Darksign has been around for many centuries, allowing more than enough time for people to become undead while chain mail and tabards are popular, and for plate to develop afterwards.

@marcphoenix

8 жыл бұрын

John Bradley Very true!

fantastic work

Hell yah keep them coming, go the whole way

Amazing video. As a fan of both dark souls and medival armor i loved this. Any idea when the next part will be up? :)

What an amazing video! I really hope you make more of these. Would love your opinion on onion bro lol

Hahaha, I've been waiting for this. I love it. Havel's armor is also made of stone. Freakin' stone lol. Favorite set of mine has to be Elite Knight Armor.

I appreciate this breakdown. In the future, someone may improve upon the historical accuracy of the armors in another Souls like game.

Great video keep it up!

This video was awesome, please do more

Ooh, I'd really love to see a Demon's Souls vid like this. And I hope it will include both male and female versions of the armors. :)

Whenabouts are you going to do the rest of this series, Metatron? I love it

im really hoping to see More of this!

Very well done, I get the whole historical evaluation part, but i think for some particular armour sets you should use the game context, because it makes much more sense: the hollow sets are stuff worn by hollows, so they are not even noticing their armor crubling by this time; havel set is bulky on purpose, because its owner had superhuman strength and magic rings, you have to get a pretty high carry weight to move in that *stone* armor. And don't bother trying to determine the time period in lordran, we all know that time is twisted there. Otherwise, keep the good work up!

Wow. I enjoyed every aspect of this! Hopefully someday you'll get to the great grandfather of them all - Berserk Mad Dog armor!

Silver Knight set is my favorite of the ones shown and evaluated so far. The Black Knight set isn't much different, but you have to reach end game territory to get it. Metatron if you need help with Dark Souls games in any way, whether tips for progression or what armor sets you would like to review, in the words of Solaire whose armor you reviewed, 'I would relish a chance to assist you." I am a huge fan of these games and really hope you do more videos about the armor sets in the games, as well as the weapons if possible. The simpler ones obviously, like halberds, falchions, different weapons that your channel may not have covered already. If you would like to talk to me about these things just message me. Keep up the great work with your channel! ;)

i liked the elite knight set a lot. I can see your point in mixing the parts for the legs and the helmet on the knight set.

In regards to the Elite Knight set, I always thought that there was a plate cuirass underneath the tabard. The "Elite" part being that it was made of better quality steel with more actual plates (like the greaves) on it, along with riveted mail around the tassets. Same with the Alva set from Dark Souls II. You can actually see what I mean with the Firelink armour set in Dark Souls III, which is in a similar style to the Knight/Elite/Alva sets: It has a plate cuirass visible underneath the thin tabard.

Hey Metatron, I would love to see a video of you wearing a full suit of Medieval armour, or even a Roman armour,seeing how you actually put it on, and walk around,maybe even run with it. You could do it with a friend filming you and helping you dress the armour pieces themselves. Of course this will only be possible if you actually have a full suit of armour on your hands which I don't know if you do.

Ahh, this was a really good video. I like how this works as both sort of a realistic evaluation of this design style, but also a comparison of the influence historical armor had on these fantasy designs. I love the design of dark souls, but I tend to look at it from an artistic perspective rather than historical so this is cool insight. I'm going to like this series, especially as we get to the more ridiculous armors later in the game. Smough's armor in particular was described by the director as "A suit of armor no sane human would ever design." I my be slightly paraphrasing, but it was to that effect. I also like the equally ridiculous Catarina set, which is a bizarre metal parody of padded armor. I think Solaire's bare hands on an otherwise realistic, if antiquated, set may have something to do with his ability to throw lightning. And notably, Haval the Rock needs a special ring to bear the load of his armor. A lot of these unrealistic traits have some in-universe explanation, which is a nice touch on part of the designers... Of course, I doubt that will hold true for all the armors especially as you get later in the game and the sets start getting silly.

nice vid bro subbed!

I love your videos. Keep up the great work

I think the idea behind the Warrior Set is that they're an explorer and a traveler who is always on the move, and that their armor needs to be light enough that they can both get in an out of it on their own, and that they can wear it all day throughout a long day of travel on foot. The fact that it's mostly leather with a few iron bits, which you said was an eastern thing, is probably due to the Warrior having been so many different places and incorporating different styles into their armor. Very low-key fantasy, for sure.

I think the reason why some armor sets "stick out" as being in the wrong era, for example, Solair's armour. He's wearing chain armour when full plate armour is readily available, but there is an explaination for this. Lore wise, since the flame is fading, and fire and light has a direct impact with time, time in the world of Dark Souls is also convoluted. Heroes of old can sometimes show up and be interacted with and talk to when the time and world lines match up. So the reason why Solair and some other characters were wearing armours of old is because they are from the past.

Nice Video, please do MORE!!!

I have nothing to comment, just wanted to say something positive because I really liked this video

Awesome, I just started playing this!

i love how he gives a full analysis on two pieces of rags

yes please! keep them comming

Great video my favorite has to be the elite knight set

in the case of the first armor set it is true that it is fantasy and this is only for education, but i think you should also take into account that the default knight set is not half leather due to it being worn that way, and the helmet lacking fluting tells a story aswell; the story being that this entire set is pieces of different armor, so the leather side is leather most likely due to the wearer (starting knight class) not having the rest of the pieces, even the helmet, is clearly from a different set already in the game, the elite knight set, it only has it's visor up. the knight who's wearing all of this; most likely scrapped these pieces of armor from what he could find. or maybe lost the parts in some manner etc. love your content stay safe!

The Elite Knight set is definitely my favorite. Although the knight, warrior, and chainmail sets also look good to me. The Giant set and Brass set are also interesting ones. I'm curious about what you have to say about the remaining armor in the game. I think you'll like the fluted knight armor set featured in Demon's Souls. I think it closely resembles 16th century armor very well, from what I can remember. Or at least it is more accurate than the armors featured in Dark Souls. Please keep evaluating the armor throughout the Souls games! Some look really good and practical, while plenty of them do look very over the top and fantasy.

Please do the same with the next souls! :D My favorite is the Elite knight set because of it's crazy ingame states and just how cool it looks...

Silver Knight Set with Steel Helmet is my favourite fashion souls. Looks really good and practical. The Holy Helm with the Silver Knight Set is also nice. Really anything goes with the Silver Knight set

Actually, I watched through, despite never having played Dark Souls, for the interesting tidbits like when you talked about frogmouth helms, and noted the tournament/battlefield distinction. It's often worth listening to a person who knows a lot about an interesting subject talk about anything, because such tidbits inevitably sneak in. :)

Earlier you made a video about black desert online. I'm not sure if you play it, but it would be fun to have a review of some of the armor in there. Especially the blader and warrior, the things other classes wear can't really be called armor :D

Thank you sir, in fact i like both dark souls and medieval armours

I used for a looooooong time the knight set. It looks cool and offers lots of protection. Then i added the helmet and the greaves from the elite knight and, when i reached Alor Londo, i changed to Black iron Tarkus set, that looks really badass!

A very nice evaluation, very fun to watch, i would like to see more of this, one question tho, do you think the elite knight armor could be used in a real sword fight and be effective? thanks

It's a shame that there is no 2 and 3 part, i really like this and i will have love that the Ornstein armour will have appear :c in any case great video, i love it

For the Havel set, yes it weight a ton or so, that's why there is a Havel's ring so it can be worn. normally without the said ring, it's likely that equip load of player will go over 100% and can just crawling. But i get your point.

Part of the reason for the time differences, is because of the undead outbreak, it's very possible solaire became undead before plate armour was widely spread, and because of the mass collapse of civilizations due to the undead armour development could have been stunted across cultures. Gotta say though they really made a good fantasy setting while usually creating good weapons and Armour. -Keep up the videos, you're doing great! Oh and my favorite is definitely a mix match of the knights set and the elite knights set, though some silver knight stuff is cool too.

@FlibbityGibbitGaming

8 жыл бұрын

time is also distorted in Lordran. I mean, that's the only way people like Solaire and Gwyndolin communicate with the character