Swords can't cut through trees, their armour is made of trees, their armour is impervious to swords. Axes can cut through trees. Vikings wield axes, Knights wield swords. This is clearly an incredibly complicated lore-based rock paper scissor situation.

@fatguyfrommy8421

7 жыл бұрын

knights wield swords. sword stabs skins. Vikings are naked...wait wut?

@nyblis420

7 жыл бұрын

50.cal sniper rifle

@tank19768

7 жыл бұрын

No no no no. This is highly technical stuff, so I can see how you'd be confused. Axes beat trees so vikings beat Samurai, Swords can't chop down trees, so Samurai beat Knights, axes can't melt steel armours, so Knights beat Vikings. Something something throw the pommel something something.

@theaussiebogan9680

7 жыл бұрын

Izora Taioth you say a katana is superior why?

@theaussiebogan9680

7 жыл бұрын

absourate middle line. *Katana was superior*

You got it all wrong, samurais would used an AR 15.

@CrystallizedBlackSkull

5 жыл бұрын

God :-O You're God so theres no Argumemt

@pluggothesluggo5509

4 жыл бұрын

@@CrystallizedBlackSkull everyday we stray - further away- closer to god

@pluggothesluggo5509

4 жыл бұрын

HOW DO YOU DO THE DASH THING

@felnorin4978

4 жыл бұрын

Pluggo the sluggo hahahahaha i want to know too!!

@Byakko_Byakuya

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Arquebus Rifle 15'th Century.

Wait, wait, wait. So, the knights in For Honor are wearing comically thick steel plate, the samurai are wearing wood and the vikings are wearing bondage gear? THEY HAVE BEEN FIGHTING FOR 1000 YEARS! HOW HAVE THE KNIGHTS NOT WON YET?! Why aren't there more archers? The viking berserker looks like Fabio and the raider wears two belts and calls it armor, their "armor" has the arrow resistance of wet toilet paper. Screw knights, just put 50 peasants with bows on top of a wall and turn the vikings and samurai into the world's angriest pin cushions.

@themightycaolf6549

7 жыл бұрын

Not to mention, the games lortrays viki gs as if they are wanting to die. Literally states that, " The vikings believe death is brought by fate, so we don't wear armour, because we have no fear of death, we embrace it." There's a difference between not fearing death, and being suicidal, and judging how they fight they should already be dead. The other two factions aren't the best fighters in terms of moves, but atleast they're not throwing themselves on the opponants blade. The point of fighting is to not die, but to make sure you live.

@alexandrosgrivas4406

7 жыл бұрын

The knights are wearing brigandines not plate breastplates

@maxnordlund7928

7 жыл бұрын

Some belive that early versions of hell were not as bad as the later ones wich had been more influenced by other cultures and religions

@gso619

7 жыл бұрын

As the other guy said, their version of hell is different from ours. It's actually oddly similar to the christian idea of heaven - a white fluffy plane, where you can spend the rest of eternity in peace. Except the viking version is a white plane of fluffy snow, where your soul sits until the end of time, bored out of its' goddamn mind instead of partying in Valhalla. The idea isn't that you get punished for not dying in battle, their idea was that the afterlife was boring as hell, but if you impress the gods in battle, they reward you with a cooler version of the afterlife. Also, women who died during childbirth were considered worthy of Valhalla, since it was considered a noble sacrifice. Also, so Valhalla doesn't turn into a total sausagefest.

@p0lednik

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah, because placing archers in the game that is focused just and only to close combat, makes fucking sense lol...

I dont know how people ever got the idea that for honor is realistic. Pretty much everything about it is fantasy.

@ncshuriken

7 жыл бұрын

Exactly, the argument of the video seems misplaced. When was the game ever TRYING to be historically accurate or realistic? Maybe I missed the part where the devs said this was supposed to be a historically accurate war simulator?

@Arcanyum

7 жыл бұрын

ncshuriken Kingdom Come: Deliverence

@baronsoup8603

7 жыл бұрын

That's not his point tho?

@Gakulon

7 жыл бұрын

TheBarser It seems more realistic than other games, but it definitely isn't a medieval combat sim

@Hudson316

7 жыл бұрын

You're overstating the armour on the knight quite a bit, unless the guy who isn't unlocked yet has a heck of a lot more armour than the others, because the Conqueror and Warden are wearing plate chestpieces, knee protection, arm-guards and helms, probably with chainmail under that, then from the waist down other than the knee protection they're just wearing pants.

This is fascinating stuff as always Metatron, great food for thought on a grey morning such as this. If I remember correctly some Native American peoples used wood at least in parts for their armour, for example the Nootka of the North West had elk skins riveted with wooden rows for strength, and I think wooden armour in pre-history would have been a real possibility. Thanks for making this interesting video!

@CuppaLLX

7 жыл бұрын

couldn't agree more

@HeadsFullOfEyeballs

7 жыл бұрын

We've also got evidence of wood and bone armour from Eurasia (all the way until modern times in the case of Siberia and the Russian Far East), so it was definitely a thing in metal-poor societies.

@misterrioter3575

5 жыл бұрын

And Tlingit peoples of southern Alaska had armor made of long slats of wood, bit like lamellar or splint armors. This armor even saw success against russian bullets iirc

@georgemusa7980

2 жыл бұрын

i realize it is kinda randomly asking but do anybody know a good website to stream new tv shows online ?

in the game story it says that the japanese were driven from their homeland into a land that is hot humid and swampy. There is an abundance of trees and not a ton of mountains so i'd imagine that they use wooden armor in the game out of necessity

@julbot1

5 жыл бұрын

This. The Samurai in-game live in a big swampy marshland. So their metal supply is low while wood is everywhere. It's why metal in general is fairly sparse in their equipment.

@charlottewalnut3118

5 жыл бұрын

@@julbot1 Guess thats why steel is currency

@htoodoh5770

5 жыл бұрын

Franz Schrodinger yep

@adorablecenturion8436

5 жыл бұрын

What about the Knights? Has Ubi mentioned how we've acquired so much steel?

@RobertDecker417

5 жыл бұрын

@@adorablecenturion8436 No, but it makes sense that with Valkenheim being sparse in resources that all metal deposits would be in Ashfeld

Been up for 2 minutes and someone already hits dislike, haters gon hate!

@SwitchFeathers

7 жыл бұрын

Boy you sure showed him.

@SwitchFeathers

7 жыл бұрын

oh snap we got some sick burns here guys better call the fire department

@orkhepaj

7 жыл бұрын

Benerro Moquorro you craps dont deserve better

@jadovaoliaro

7 жыл бұрын

In other words, you dont have anything better....Because lets face it buddy, you took the time to reply ;)

@xinfinity8532

7 жыл бұрын

Zag Zagzag fuckface

The game's lore states that the samurai faction holds small territories and are starved of resources. That is probably why they go for wood. Also it gives each faction highly visually distinct designs, so why not.

@CrystallizedBlackSkull

5 жыл бұрын

Shatadhi Dutta Tbh atleast its better than fucking leather

@steelinghades9655

5 жыл бұрын

@@CrystallizedBlackSkull You know, I highly blame shadiversity for this but the whole, "Fucking leather" shot has to stop. Leather armour exsisted, It exsisted in all periods, that is that. We have armoury lists that include leather armour, we have surviving examples of leather armour from various periods, the buff coat in the Renaissance was leather armour and fairly popular. So, all in all, this stupidity needs to stop.

@applepopapplerancher3211

3 жыл бұрын

...so anyways, the knights and wu-lin were making fun of the neckbeards and weebs for the wood armour and bondage gear!

People are so pissed about Samurai using wooden armor they wrote the the developpers, but nobody at all talk about naked giant fucking dude with two handed axe ?

@BB-mp4hn

7 жыл бұрын

MariusThePaladin in the game it says that the vikings believed that their death is already predetermined by fate so they dont need armor nor fear

@Hoojahs

7 жыл бұрын

Vikings used chain mail.

@lordjub-jub5254

7 жыл бұрын

MariusThePaladin usually you avoid talking about that guy whenever possible.

@stupidburp

7 жыл бұрын

Cloth padded armor was even more common than mail or combination of mail and padded. Early on a cloth tunic was even more common than any armor at all.

@CoffeeSnep

7 жыл бұрын

Stu Bur Yes and that would make since for the minions to wear, but the players play as the heroes, the best of the best, the Champions of their people. So they should have the best armor of their respective civilizations.

People are getting mad at incorrect uses of armor and i'm here, questioning myself where do the arrows come from in this game, i never saw a single archer, but still the trailers feature rains of arrows...

7 жыл бұрын

Erick Viana It's an ability to call in arrows as well. I assume you have elite squads of Invisible archers, but they don't like working very often:(

@erickeism

7 жыл бұрын

and that supports my theory: nobody cares about archers :/

@alephkasai9384

7 жыл бұрын

Wicker _ Maybe after they shoot the arrows they have to deal with the enemy infantry that got through

@remryukcreepy

7 жыл бұрын

I too think archers were done dirty but at the same time I'm not sure if they would be balanced in the combat and maps of For Honor

@lordjub-jub5254

7 жыл бұрын

They used all the arrows up in the trailer

Brace yourselfs... the "historians" are coming

@RandomAllen

7 жыл бұрын

***** "iz truez trust me, I a historianaian and ive gotthe factz jackz to make your slacks pack."

@RandomAllen

7 жыл бұрын

i nEed to take a poop.

@RandomAllen

7 жыл бұрын

***** WEEBOOOFACE BLACK GUY!

@RandomAllen

7 жыл бұрын

Aw, this little delve into insanity has been fun...sad enough, all those comments I've actually seen other places.

@Ag-dj9cp

7 жыл бұрын

Better than stupid uneducated beggars like you.

if people is angry of that they should be a hell alot more angry about vikings armour (tho im not im completely fine with it)

@yes-par2983

7 жыл бұрын

but not quite the warlord he seems to ok Good but im not a Expert not even close

@themightycaolf6549

7 жыл бұрын

You spelled it wrong, it should be WERLERD!!!

@xinfinity8532

7 жыл бұрын

Samurai: Hey game developers can we have shields For Honor developer: Why Samurai: We are the only faction who doesnt have shields its unfair For Honor developer: Fine take this flat piece of junk wood and shut up Samurai: F**K

@Xandros999

7 жыл бұрын

The samurai faction's weapons actually come from Bloodborne, so of course they have katatanas and wooden shields!

@xinfinity8532

7 жыл бұрын

Xandros999 You get the joke do you :|

People use steel plates today, I have AR500 Steel plates in my plate carrier, so technically it would be plate armor.

@Xhaleon

7 жыл бұрын

The concept has remained exactly the same. Ballistic vests are the equivalent of cloth or mail forms of protection with the few attached heavy duty plates covering only the most vital areas and angles, as with transitional forms of European armor designs between pure mail and full plate. Plates that can defend against modern projectiles are both too heavy and bulky for total coverage of the body, which is a bit of a different problem than the one faced by medieval engineers. But as the development of powered exoskeletons continue the solution for our unique issue edges closer and closer, and once it is done we will have come full circle in the race between arms and armor.

@Sheol02

7 жыл бұрын

Xhaleon Warhammer 40k era is about to come.

@LeohTheArcher

7 жыл бұрын

Sheol_IK And we already have the God-Emperor sitting on the American throne.

@RafaAelM

7 жыл бұрын

For the emperor!

@arx3516

7 жыл бұрын

and the US military is working on the Talos project, wich is basically power armor, so yeah, we come full circle,

If we can't really find any wooden armour in earlier times and we don't find any wooden armour pieces in later centuries. Why would there be no wooden shoulder plates for example? Isn't wood in particular effective against arrows ? A Professor of mine likes to use a phrase I like to use here: "The absence of evidence isn't the evidence of absence".

@Sheol02

7 жыл бұрын

SaLvaZone1337 We CAN and we DO wind wooden armor. I's just that findings are rare. Than we base our ideas on treatises, drowning s, hysterical documents etc. Your teacher is right. Samurai obviously road into battles on dragon s on unicorns.

@xinfinity8532

7 жыл бұрын

Samurai: Hey game developers can we have shields For Honor developer: Why Samurai: We are the only faction who doesnt have shields its unfair For Honor developer: Fine take this flat piece of junk wood and shut up Samurai: F**K

@vanlao6367

7 жыл бұрын

finding of the woodern armor are rare because of many reasons. Here are some in my personal view: Wooden armor doesn't have good re usability, once it was bent or broken, the armor become useless, or just bonfire. Metal armor can be fixed by heating them up and re shape them with hammer, so economically, they are better choice for wooden armor. Wooden armor are more vulnerable to the environment than metal armor because of the material that made them. The wood degrade quickly through times, especially if it get into contact with rain or long exposure to the sun. Metal can last for way longer, nowaday you can find piece of armor made from metal, but the wooden ones are already become dust. Wooden armor are cumbersome, in term of its size, you need a thick piece of wood to make it a good piece of armor, while a thinner plate of metal can offer the same protection. Using metal armor = fewer place for your enemy to grab on and pin you down.

@xinfinity8532

7 жыл бұрын

van lao Is it historically accurate to make a samurai armor breastplate from leather

@vanlao6367

7 жыл бұрын

+X Infinity purely from leather ? highly unlikely, since leather armor are good against stabbing blow, but not against cutting strike, so they'll be less useful in Japan where katana, naginata and spear dominate the battlefield ( yes, japanese spear allow you to cut your opponent, not just stabbing). One way or another, leather armor is good when you need minor protection in not - so - important part of the body, or act as the final layer of protection when the metal armor fail to do its job. But Japanese don't have much use for leather armor due to another reason : they don't have big game to hunt or big farm to raise animal for leather, because of their geography as sea islands. The Japanese has another piece of clothe worn beneath their armor, something like a gamberson to protect them, so you can look at it as " alternative leather armor "

As a gamer I really appriciate such videos because they connect my interests in a compelling way, especially if they battle misconceptions and stuff like that. I was asking this question myself, so I am glad you made a video about it!

The game's lore seems to say something about the Samurai's being driven out of their homeland, the Knights seems to be the original owner of most of the obtainable areas, and the Vikings live in the Icey place that nobody really wants. So it would make sense that the Knights would have more productive mines, while the Vikings hunt to both feed themselves and make their leather armor, the Samurais don't seems to have a good mining system so they can only extract metal enough for their weapons, so they make their armor out of wood because Samurais are vegan (Am i right?)

3 people liked you so much, that they turned their monitor upside-down and give you another thumb up! :D

I've always wanted to see how samurai armour is put on and taken off with all the multiple bits and such. Could you do a video about that? I'd be most grateful :)

@pungivergiverofpuns3611

7 жыл бұрын

Daniel Gould he has one up already :)

@Shindai

7 жыл бұрын

Ah he does? Sweet, I've only recently subscribed so not gone through all the vids yet, I had a feeling he might. Thanks for being helpful instead of swearing at me ^_^

Am I the only one that looks at For Honor as a fun fantasy dueling game with no historical accuracy considering the 3 factions live within like 500 miles of eachother?

@Eeter26

5 жыл бұрын

Archangel Styx BUT THE L E A T H E R A R M O R

@brads4510

4 жыл бұрын

Nah, me too. This video is completely pointless because that’s exactly what For Honor is; a fun fantasy game all about the dueling. It never tries or claims to be historically accurate. No one would buy the game if the armour and weapons were shitty, boring and realistic.

@shuvanispiritualsoldier8173

3 жыл бұрын

@@brads4510 yeah Ik even if it was a bit more realistic the climate of the world changed in for honour basically making historical crap not matter as much, that’s like complaining about the Norse in Skyrim wearing unique clothing. That’s like saying the M1 Garand was not used because it wasn’t the most effective and people only like it for the ping. Army’s use useless stuff sometimes everyone’s not going to have kite shields and cross bows.

Yo dude, I just watched the game theories vid about for honor, and correct me if I am wrong, but it seems that Mat Pat got a lot of armor stuff wrong. If that's the case, could we get some corrections please?

i thought it was a design choice to better differentiate from knights more.

@Hudson316

7 жыл бұрын

Also for the fancy carvings you can get done on the plates

@103035icle

7 жыл бұрын

James Austin oh you can carve metal armor. you can see such on 4000 year old armor.

Female Kensei and male Warden are the most aesthetic characters in the game imo, even with starter gear. That Nodachi is just beautiful and it's way larger then a real sword but these characters are also tall af.

i really love how you clarify historical misunderstandings

You knowledge is amazing. I'm just a scrub looking for some for honor kensei content, and I saw this video, 12 mins in the video I'm still listening with much interest. The way you talk about it makes it even more interesting. Great video!

That's a very legitimate reason to say that due to limited resources, the Samurai opted to prioritize building weapons with iron and armor with wood; considering that the lore in For Honor kinda mentioned that all 3 factions fought for those resources for hundreds of years.

7:52 If we follow de Lore of the game, they don't have the necessary amounts of materials to make the armor with metal. That's it.

You are so much better when you get straight to the point instead of making exucses for 10 minutes, then getting to the point. Very good.

Ok you get a subscribe now, i have been looking at your videos long enough with out subscribing. Good content !

Yes I waited for this. Pls talk about the knight too.

@AVGyerra22

6 жыл бұрын

The warden, and conqueror's chest could probably be gambeson (but the warden's chest is clearly gambeson), though I'm entirely not sure about conqueror. Perhaps chainmail underneath? As for the lawbringer, his legs would most likely be gambeson aswell however I'm not sure (they look more like jeans instead of gambeson) but if you say it's "completely" I'd have to correct you since the poleaxe is long enough to guard the legs by simply blocking/parrying the attack with the handle itself.

@AVGyerra22

6 жыл бұрын

The peacekeeper, Idk tbh, she seems like she wears leather? perhaps gambeson? or she could be wearing chainmail underneath (similar to the conqueror)

In For Honour the Samurai have to reserve what little iron they have for weapons, as in the lore they are VERY poor in resources. The Knights wear plate because they're comparatively resource-rich and can afford to produce metal armour. Simple as that.

@arx3516

7 жыл бұрын

the best answer!

@lenahatz8719

4 жыл бұрын

The most dump thing i've ever seen on youtube comments

@kurodo9926

4 жыл бұрын

@@lenahatz8719 why you think that?

@powerist209

4 жыл бұрын

Civil war? I mean the first level involved the lord being sieged for disobedience. And Legion also tends to war amongst themselves along with dealing with Vikings and Samurai land not being wealthy enough to prioritize (being swamps and all).

@SenatorMorbstrong

3 жыл бұрын

That lore is so stupid. They could have just given us metal. YES i know this comment is 3 years old.

You've gotten so much better at your presentation. This video was fantastic. Keep doing what you're doing!

'Fantasy' is no excuse for a lack of logic in design.

@elperronimo

7 жыл бұрын

yes it is, what are you on about lad

Maybe they're wearing armoire? (wooden cabinets)

Speaking of Samurai, are you pumped for the new season of Samurai Jack?

@romulusnuma116

7 жыл бұрын

Aren't we all?

Logically speaking, I would expect every human culture to have employed wooden armour if at least ad hoc during various situations. The sheer accessibility of wood and the speed of processing it makes it generally useful for tools in general. The main problem I can see with wood (besides being organic) is that it would never be repaired and instead replaced (and possibly often). This means that people likely did not value any particular wooden tool because they treated it as a sort of consumable. In this sense, it is similar to stone tools. But of course, wood is much lighter than stone and can provide tools with unique advantages. For example, a wooden hammer can have much greater surface area than a metal or stone hammer of equivalent mass. And depending on whivh shape you take from wood, its compression strength can be enormous. Certainly enough to withstand any sword cut and perhaps even thrusts. And if the logic of European shields apply, then wooden armour can be used to disarm opponents if their sword gets stuck on it. Wood and bronze are very underrated materials in fantasy fiction in my opinion.

I absolutely love your videos. To me, they are very informational.

Hi Metatron! Hope you have a great day!

have you ever thought of doing a video on oda nobunaga?

@juandominguezmurray7327

7 жыл бұрын

just watch Drifters ;)

@19Koty96

7 жыл бұрын

Hmm, he might do a video concerning both... I'd be all hands for it.

I've been watching your videos for a while now and I got to say that you have a verry intresting and unique channel. I really like it. Keep up the good work

It's interesting, because in my local art museum there is a set of (I'm almost certain reconstructed) ceremonial wooden armor that looks not entirely dissimilar from the game's Kensei. Also, I believe some of this discrepancy might reveal itself within the game, as this game is not set in real life (obviously). From having seen the "campaign map" I notice several interesting geological features: It appears that the starting Samurai domain is made up pejoratively of forested hills, which would mean a lot of wood but perhaps not as much metal, leading to their saving precious metal for weaponry. The Vikings live in what seems to be a frozen wasteland which would imply not many natural resources, perhaps some more metal, but the most abundant resource would probably be game like elk, and perhaps some more metal than the Samurai, but the terrain doesn't seem to suggest it, leading to a more leather (with some metal) focused armor set, while again leaving most of the metal to be used in tools and weapons. The Knights, on the other hand, seem to be in an almost Savanna hills area, which generally tend to be more metal rich, meaning that they can afford to use metal everywhere, while the other factions have had to adapt to their relative resource shortage to survive, thus leading to the relative balance seen today despite what appears to be a huge advantage for the knights. I am by no means an expert, but that's just what it seems like to me.

This was very informative, I never knew there was wooden armor in 日本. Thanks Metatron!

can someone give me the link to the samurai video because I didn't find it in the description

@metatronyt

7 жыл бұрын

I added it now, 4 links at the end of the video, and one link in the description

@aboodhemedi236

7 жыл бұрын

Metatron thanks

I like the fact that The Samurai faction wears wooden armor in the style of Samurai armor because it fits their backstory. They are the remnants of a great empire after a civil war and now mostly live in really inhospitable swampy forests in absolutely tiny numbers. Every Samurai map is as much an Elf Village as it is a castle or temple, with some of their buildings literally being tree houses.

I have been curious about this for a while: why do samurai helmets have moustaches?

@themightycaolf6549

7 жыл бұрын

Decoration. Simplest answer. Some European helmets actually had metal mustaches.

@orkhepaj

7 жыл бұрын

To make it stylish

@lucanic4328

7 жыл бұрын

Mikael Kjellgren To have a fierce, imposing and "veteran" look. That's the most common mask you see, however there are many tipes, like ressei mempo, kitsune mempo etc. Facial hair were common in mask for that reason

@alessandronavone6731

7 жыл бұрын

Because everyone loves moustaches.

@LeohTheArcher

7 жыл бұрын

Mikael Kjellgren Bitches love a big old moustacho

There's such a thing as stylistic choice. That's what it is.

Please, Metatron, Leader of the Exodus, never stop making videos. Never, you hear me?

okay, this is a highly informative video. This is what we came for. This is why we stay! minor tipp: You should work on creating more 'formats' for your videos, you are already working in this direction, just call it 'format' and detail it al bit more with separate looks, content and feels. best regards and keep it up, your progress in video editing and experimenting with this media is astonishing! Aou even eveolving as an actor kind of.^^

what are those loops for above the crest on your armour? were they for something, or just decorations?

Vikings didn't have horns on their helmets, but I don't see people going apeshit about that. It looks cool when Vikings have horns, and it looks cool when samurai use katanas and have wooden armour. It's not supposed to be historically accurate, get over it!

@disasterman52

7 жыл бұрын

I have a friend who claims Norwegian ancestry who is absolutely livid over the horns, yet he believes in shirtless berserkers cutting down dozens of men while ignoring repeated mortal wounds as a historical fact.

@RexusprimeIX

7 жыл бұрын

disasterman52 Well, large amount of adrenaline can make you be able to tolerate pain.

@fullyverified7491

7 жыл бұрын

RexusprimeIX You're not wrong. Edit: spelling.

@RexusprimeIX

7 жыл бұрын

Fullyverified You know, since you're being nice to me. I'll ignore your grammar.

@fullyverified7491

7 жыл бұрын

i fixed it.

Did anyone see GameTheory's terrible For Honor video? I'm interested in what you guys think

@whttz

7 жыл бұрын

Game Theories are cancer.

I find it curious the Japanese metal armour to be made to defeat arquebus. I'd think that any firearm could defeat metal plate. At what point is that true?

@metatronyt

7 жыл бұрын

Tameshi gusoku (literally tested armours) were tested by shooting at them with tanegashima and they were made to resist the fire from those weapons, 100%. We can still see examples of these tameshi gusoku were you can see the little dent made by the arquebus balls in them, which at the time was a proof of the armour quality. So 100%, it's a fact.

@Zooasaurus

7 жыл бұрын

The Europeans also have armours that are purposefully made to resist bullet, and again, they're also tested by shooting a musket in some distance at them

@MRKapcer13

7 жыл бұрын

Steel armour was very effective against firearms probably until the introduction of bullets. +Metatron said that in Japan armour was proofed against firearms, but that was also very much the case across the entirety of Europe. In Poland, for instance, if a Hussar's cuirass couldn't withstand a shot from a pistol from the distance of 5 steps it was deemed inadequate. It is inaccurate to say that plate armour faded away with the introduction of firearms, especially when you consider that even through Napoleonic era cuirassiers were used and were very effective. Changes in doctrine are mostly the reason for the fading away of the heavy cavalry and, as a direct result, full plate harness. The west adopted pike and shot, which was very effective against heavy cavalry formations (aside from the Polish heavy winged hussars, who were basically formed to be shock cavalry). A rifle can easily kill your horse and can, on rare occasions, hurt you despite your plate armour. Ultimately though the fading of full plate harness is likely due to simple economics. As the power moved from aristocracy into guilds and cities, fielding heavy units became very expensive. If you can field fifty pikemen and fifty musketeers for the price of 10 cavalrymen I think the choice is rather obvious. In Poland the Winged Hussars and Armoured Cavalry (Kawaleria Pancerna) remained popular because the nobility remained the most important economic power in the country, and that means that noblemen can afford their own armours and so heavy cavalry remained popular.

@Lintary

7 жыл бұрын

This here is simply a case of energy and distribution of energy. Early firearms firing the musket balls for example have a rather large projectile moving at a rather slow speed and upon impact it had a large surface area making contact so the energy of such a shot really was not that high and some plate armour could easily stop it. Same can be seen in modern firearms, where an .45 ACP or 9mm parabellum might not pierce a piece of armour, the much smaller, but much faster 5.7x28 will go clean through no issue because the speed and smaller impact era and following diameter of the projectile makes it ideal for piercing things. In fact steel plate armour was used even in WW1 by some soldiers, so yeah firearms really did not render plate obsolete for a long time. It was really the advances with more powerful propellants and better rifle and projectile designs that plate armour just was no longer useful because of the weight needed to stop a projectile.

@Riceball01

7 жыл бұрын

In both Europe and Japan armorsmiths would shoot at their armor with a gun leaving a small dent in it as proof that it can indeed stop gunfire. In fact, this is where we get the term bulletproof from, the dent being the armorsmith's proof mark that his armor will indeed stop a bullet.

Hey metatron, have you thought about making a video or few about the sengoku jidai from the point of view of either specific clan leader/general or a common soldier during a sengoku battle or siege?

He just shot me at the end :O

Roman soliders and ottomans would be a really cool addition in For Honor

@themightycaolf6549

7 жыл бұрын

Be better than the goddamned shirtless vikings. Also oh my god middle eastern warriors would be amazballs.

@intuitivewords472

7 жыл бұрын

😂 Agreed

@Altarahhn

7 жыл бұрын

Peyton Spain OK, Romans might be a bit of a stretch even for this game, but the Ottomans would be really cool, honestly! Although, knowing Ubisoft, they'll instead (probably) go with an archetypal "Saracen"/"Arabian"/"Islamic" faction that is an amalgamation of multiple Middle Eastern ethic and cultural groups meant to resemble the common perception of the medieval Middle East as a whole... or an ACTUAL Ottoman faction, who knows! P.S. the former seems more likely in this case, honestly. Not necessarily a bad thing if done right (plus based on the game's lore it COULD make sense) but still, just saying.

@crozraven

7 жыл бұрын

I prefer the Chinese warriors, they'd so much wars and warfare technology. then again the devs might ignorantly make them look like samurai.

@katrinegadegaard1241

7 жыл бұрын

I'm just saying if they add a "Saracen"/"Arabian"/"Islamic" faction then it won't be long before the game is flooded by obnoxious ISIS wannabe kids who just can't wait to decap some virtual infidels. No plz!

My theory on the "wooden" armor in the game is *maybe* later when you are leveling up, gain notoriety (the leveling system is called "renown" in the multiplayer...which sounds like how highly your faction thinks of you) and start earning "high end" gear, you'll start seeing more metal. Maybe from a lore perspective as you said, they don't want to use precious resources on some low level or unknown warrior, but once you prove yourself as a valuable asset, the better gear would be given to you. Personally I haven't seen any high end samurai faction gear in the game yet, and this is all just my theory on the subject. I'm pretty sure the opening cinematic for the game shows a massive earthquake, ruining the land and making resources scarce, prompting the war. The basis for that is when the viking is drinking from the watering hole and the samurai attacks him. Again, just my theory. Good video!

Very nice videos. As a concept artist, it is very valuable information. Thanks for sharing knowledge! :)

Find out next week, same bat time same bat channel.

@kand198

7 жыл бұрын

This isn't the WAN show Linus, you're drunk.

Is the samurai faction, not the Japanese faction, other wards the knights would be the European faction and it would have gladiators and hoplites, the viking faction would be the Scandinavian faction and it would have Swedish knights

@arx3516

7 жыл бұрын

swedish knights had armor and weapons similar to the knights from the rest of Europe. And indeed, actual vikings weren't that different in weapons and armor from knights of continental europe, what we call "viking sword" was just the most common sword design in Europe at that time, there are findings of these "viking swords" all over europe, germany, france, spain, italy... and they wore mail, just like any other warrior back then. I mean look at a picture of a late roman empire legionaire and that of an historically accurate viking, you'll notice that their equipment is basically the same, the sword, the spear, the armor!

@tysej4

7 жыл бұрын

"Viking swords" tended to just be standard arming swords with a thicker blade... Really nothing that special about it.

@stip3m4m1c8

7 жыл бұрын

Henry Becerra no they were frankish type of sword that is direct successor to the roman spatha it is basically frankish sword with norse hilt and handguard

@tysej4

7 жыл бұрын

True but that changes during the period of time the game is set in... If we want to have knights as well that is.

Metatron, thank you for the video it was very informative and interesting, I really liked how you went about addressing it. very clear and easy to understand. quick question though, what exactly would be the type of wood you would use for wooden armor? I'm partial to the idea of lamillar made from bamboo or the like but that's just one. I'm not sure about the others or if the bamboo idea would even work.

Hey Metatron, perhaps there is a much simpler much more mundane reason for the appearance of wooden armor in "For Honor". The reason I'm thinking of is an upgrade and leveling system centered around unlockable prestige items. Perhaps there is a visible improvement of materials the more upgrades you unlock and the higher quality of gear you unlock. What supports this thesis is that upgrades to the Knights (especially the Warden) gear show different shapes and coloring in the metal, as well as different types of brigandines and so on. Nice video, keep up the good work!

I liked the academic take on this video, rather than the ranty nature.

If you check the details of the armor on the character customization screen of thr Samurai, it is described that they are wearing layered steel plating.

Hi, Metatron. I just wanted to say I like your videos and am really enlightened by your reasoning and explanations based on common sense (on historical period-specific points of view) backed up by actual documentations. Also, I wanted to ask if you could please do a video about Kunoichi or the more popularized term used female shinobi. There aren't that many actual in-depth videos that give them factual form (like how the term Kunoichi came to be. I heard it referred to a "number" pertaining the female body.). I would be really interested to learn what you know about them.

Can you make a video on samurai chain-mail? great video keep it up!

In a game where you're pitting warriors of vastly different, often unconnected civilisations against eachother, I don't think historical accuracy is the point. The idea of pitting a squad of Samurai and Ninja against a crew of European knights is complete fantasy (when was there ever a war between English knights & Samurai? Or between a Ninja death squad and a crew of Spartans?), so I doubt the game was ever even trying to be "truly historical". Whether Samurais had wooden armour or not seems irrelavent to me. Maybe I'm missing the point here??

@DaSticksanStonesClub

7 жыл бұрын

ncshuriken Well said

@adorablecenturion8436

5 жыл бұрын

It isn't supposed to be historical anyway, as Apollyon said, an earthquake shattered the planet in like..The 1300s? I think? And civilization was set on another path, they had a war that lasted over a thousand years And now we're here Where Roman centurions go around with only a Gladius..clearly historically inaccurate.

Ok! Ok! Thumbs up! See? Thumbs up! Easy. Easy. Thumbs up. :) Now, next time you do a video on Japanese history, please do it in Japanese with subtitles. ;)

Like your vids.. I know you are more geared towards historical armor etc, however it would be cool if one day you did an assessment of modern armor and the different technologies.. Steel, Ceramic, Ultra-high-molecular-weight polyethylene, Kevlar(Soft armor) and now these "nano" graphene/Nanocellulose(Soft Armor). Then the different plate carriers PIG, LBT, ShellBack, PhalanxSystems(Various Armors and Modern Shields, check it out good stuff, I really like their Ballistic Shields) and different rigs that different militarizes use and maybe how that compares culturally to historical armor from those nations.. Thought it would be a cool idea... Just wanted to mention it... I run a PIG+Steel Plates+Camel Back for my rig plus all the molle etc etc... It would be neat in my opinion to get a historical perspective and cultural contrast of various kinds of modern armor and historical armor kinda like an evolution of armor... We still wear armor today, and use shields :) Keep up the good work, and I love it when you do architecture, language and cultural stuff like the cathedral etc...

such beautiful armor. great video. Just realized its even with Takeda insignia :D

Metatron can you do a video about the Bogdanoffs that rule Europe?

sorta not related to the video BUT, Vikings won beta , the gods shall rain eternal glory upon us.

@biohazard724

7 жыл бұрын

Really? When I was watching steams it seemed like the Vikings were always struggling to regain lost ground.

@Meltdownlv100

7 жыл бұрын

biohazard724 check it on Ubisoft for honor beta page. Vikings steamrolled everyone

@Gakulon

7 жыл бұрын

biohazard724 I'm sorry, don't you mean the Knights? We got fucked in the ass in regards to territory.

@Jadee95

7 жыл бұрын

yeah vikings won the territory war thing. and i think knights were second?

@tyraz3802

7 жыл бұрын

Ubisoft said Knights won with 25 territories lol. can imagine alot going for the in live due to lawbringer

I like listening to your explanations metatron. They display your refreshing analytic and intelligent mind. i like xD

I like your explanation about samurai armor. In the future I may return to git some information. You see I've been writing a book where the MC where'sI a sort of Frankenstein armor ( armor that has been cut from different types of historical are ). So I've been gathering information about different armor sets/ types. +Metatron

Samurai is my favorite faction specifically the Orochi with I think is the worst of the faction due to its lack of mixups. Great video, I like you channel so I posted this on the For Honore Reddit. I hope you don't mind.

Fine Video. Could you take a look at the armours and wepons used in NIOH, forthcoming game with a sedoku period setting and give us a similiar video?

Your armor looks awesome. Quite imposing all together like that.

the intro remind me of kill bill xD ahahah nice vid metatrone

Hey man, loved the video I just gotta make sure you know dryfiring is bad for the rifle, though I did like what you did there.

omg , the channel I've been looking for after years of searching

Hi Metatron I hope you are doing well :) I've been watching your videos for a few months and I really like the content you create. I've got something to ask of you and I will make this as brief as possible as I am sure you are very busy. I study videogame design at college and I've been given an assignment - I can pick any time and any place but the story must be about escaping from a cell. There is a little more to it than that but I have to build a game around this and make a story for it. I have chosen the Druids - I was thinking the story would center around a druid captured in Anglesey around 80 AD - where the romans had just made their second attack and finalised the taking of Anglesey. You would be captured within a Roman garrison and must escape that. What do you think of this idea in genral? Does it fit? Does it work? Would druids have been captured or just killed on the spot? What would an 80 AD prison cell have looked like? Thanks Metatron :)

Hi there Metattron, I was wondering if it was possible if you could make a video on the role of spirituality in the age of the Samurai, both to the Samurai themselves as well as others like the Ikko Ikki.

I am new to your channel and i already love what your bringing out and i do agree what you say in the video. Now the open beta is out and what i could see is that the Samurai faction just dont have the materials to make metal armour since their territory is purely forests.

Is that the Takeda clan's mon on your okegawa do or whatever that vest is called

You said that Wikipedia lists iron as the material for Tanko and Keiko armour. My question to you is where you draw the line between iron and steel (regarding the carbon content, I also have a video in mind where you talk about european armour and both iron and steel as the marterial used)

I would love to see a video discussing the different types and materials used in samurai armor!

Thank you for the educated ideas and opinions on that game (Never played it myself) Very interesting. Do you know of any cultures who used bone armor? (Of course, you may have already made a video about this and if so, sorry!) I think that would make for an interesting video, assuming there is content to speak about.

Metatron, nice video! I do agree that they should have used rawhide at least; nerigawa is actually as hard as tetsu: I was skeptical about this but I've changed my mind after talking with Dave Tatcher. And sorry to be that guy, but actually itamono and kiritsuke zane were used 60-70 years before the arrival of the portuguese. And rawhide was still used by lower ranking soldiers/old soldiers; however, is kinda silly but again from Mr. Tatcher, his heaviest gusoku is made of nerigawa ;) Glad you have mentioned Mr. Bryant. He was a nice man, his website is still a must check for samurai armor content.

i like the tune at the end of your video where is it from

Hey Metatron, no idea if you will see this but anyway to the point. It's of topic from the video but I saw you commented on your height being 175cm how did that feel being among the Japanese people, I want to know as I am 2 metres tall and want to know will I stick out like a sore thumb. I kinda do now in my own country but not to much as people don't feel that short to me. I would like to know as I plan to go their on my student exchange program in Uni and im quite self concious of my height and how it makes people feel. I did ask this a few minutes ago but on a older video I thought you might miss it and I just saw you uploaded a new video so might as well ask again.

Wood can be harder than you might think depending on the type... I had a Persimmon Tree in my backyard I had to cut down with a chainsaw and that thing was hard, it wasn’t even one of those super thick huge hardwoods but it still made the chainsaw struggle and took longer than you would think to cut all the way through it.

Hello Metatron on the topic of For Honor I'm curious if Kensei really means Sword Saint in Japanese ? Great video as always :)

Hello Metatron, what are your thoughts on Shogun and Shogun 2: Total War?

Great video! It's interesting to learn that wooden armour did exist in Japan. In the case of For Honor, lack of resources is probably the explanation they were going for in the game's setting. In the story mode, when one gets to see the land the samurai live in, a huge amount of it is swamp and marsh, and they even say in the story mode that the samurai basically had to settle in land that was considered undesirable by the other two factions.

Metatron I don't know if you have done it before, but maybe you can do a "must do" video if you visits Italy. I'm from Spain and I only went to Italy one, but I would like to go another time and maybe you can give some recommendations on what to visit, eat, do...

Hey Raph quick question: Is there such thing as a horse gambeson? I know that in the medieval times horses wore things made of cloth and later they wore plate, but is there any evidence for a horse to wear padded armour? I think that this would have been a good idea, and I reckon you could get much more padding on a horse that would make it even more effective.

I persobally love the look of the wooden armor in For Honor and now because of your video i have decided to make a replica of the wooden ingame armor in my wood working man my teacher is gonna be so hyped for this lol

What was the name of that Roman armor you mentioned? I couldn't catch it.

@metatronyt

7 жыл бұрын

Subarmalis, but it's the padding which went underneath the armour

What's that moustache on your helmet?

Do you have a video on the viability of rawhide/leather armor as compared to something like wooden/bronze/iron armor?

@lucanic4328

7 жыл бұрын

Andres Estrada Rawhide shouldn't be consider "leather". Rawhide is actually "raw", pretty tough and hard. This is why it was used in different cultures, it was really effective. Yet I'm aware of only one test on s book, if you look for videos is just plain, nimble leather getting rekt.

Hey Metatron! I came into this video thinking you would have brought up Ainu wooden and bark armour, considering they are the indigenous people of Hokkaido (and are associated with the Japanese) The Ainu aren't often talked about, and I think it'd be awesome if you did.

About 35 years ago I saw an experimental archaeological reproduction of lacquered bamboo armor. The person had made several chest pieces, one for display and the others to test. He said during the testing they found the armor to be fairly protective, more so than he expected, but not as protective, or study, as iron armor.