"CUT PLAYERS SALARIES!" 😠 Simon Jordan BLAMES players for taking ALL THE MONEY from football 🔥

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Is watching football too expensive? talkSPORT's Jim White, Simon Jordan and Carlton Palmer have their say!
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  • @pac8827
    @pac882711 ай бұрын

    How dare people not pay Sky Sports and BT a fortune to not watch 3pm kicks offs

  • @hustler666100

    @hustler666100

    11 ай бұрын

    i wouldn't mind paying them if I could watch what games i wanted to live but until then ill stream my home team games.

  • @P.Rick316

    @P.Rick316

    11 ай бұрын

    Rip off sky, plenty of other options.

  • @user-dw2px9re9p

    @user-dw2px9re9p

    11 ай бұрын

    They would rather charge £100 a month and have 1 million subscribers rather than £10 a month and have 10 million subscribers.

  • @johnnyutah706

    @johnnyutah706

    11 ай бұрын

    No one is saying that in this conversation

  • @wolfen210959

    @wolfen210959

    11 ай бұрын

    @@bobbyblueace You only need to stream illegally, if your team is in the Premier League. In the leagues below, your club can stream each of it's games online to it's fans for a small fee, unless the game is featured on Sky or BT.

  • @klich44
    @klich4411 ай бұрын

    Huge point missing here is that regardless of price point most fans can't legally watch their own team in UK each week

  • @MacAnPhriora

    @MacAnPhriora

    11 ай бұрын

    This

  • @PhilipGaffney

    @PhilipGaffney

    11 ай бұрын

    Exactly, there would probably be an argument it's worth the price if you had access to chose any and every game.

  • @face8451

    @face8451

    11 ай бұрын

    In sweden we have viaplay we can choose to watch every game we want, does it work that way in england

  • @syn_tekken3055

    @syn_tekken3055

    11 ай бұрын

    ⁠@@face8451 No, under british law, no match that kicks off at 3PM on Saturday (the majority of fixtures) may be broadcast in the UK. Plenty of ways around it of course thanks to VPNs.

  • @SpookyBry

    @SpookyBry

    11 ай бұрын

    @@syn_tekken3055 I've been watching the Prem from the US since I was kid and never knew this. Can you enlighten me as to why that's a law? My mind is kind of blown right now.

  • @BabsW
    @BabsW11 ай бұрын

    We need the Premier League to have their own streaming service- that way they can stream all the matches in the UK at a reasonable price and make way more money. It's a no brainer.

  • @MA-qf5gq

    @MA-qf5gq

    11 ай бұрын

    Makes sense because ufc do that nba do that however it will never happen because premier league get paid sooo much money from streamers like sky, by etc for the right to air the games on there steaming service. Premier league only care about money not fans

  • @nemo.87

    @nemo.87

    11 ай бұрын

    The parasites at the top wont allow that.

  • @davidcjupp

    @davidcjupp

    10 ай бұрын

    Realistically the Prem have milked the UK audience too much and now people are stealing it because it's too expensive. It's why NOWTV will do £20p/m for the footy now.

  • @peterwest4965
    @peterwest496511 ай бұрын

    £160 a month and you can't even watch a 3pm kick off Saturday and they wonder why certain people want to pay £120 a year and watch any game they wish.

  • @leemcqueen500

    @leemcqueen500

    11 ай бұрын

    What subscription is 160 a month? That must be with broadband and the full package and multiroom.

  • @GIrls-jr4jn
    @GIrls-jr4jn11 ай бұрын

    Disgusting that they’ve been jailed for such an amount of time. Those that hurt children in the worst possible way are given shorter sentences and then paid to have a life by the government (your taxes cover their council house, tax, driving lessons, gym memberships, discounted gas and electricity bills, help with education costs if needed). Absolute joke.

  • @peterwest4965

    @peterwest4965

    11 ай бұрын

    100% spot on I seen a mother who let her boyfriend murder her child and tried to cover it up and she got 9 years shows what they really value money over everything.

  • @RS-B5ZV

    @RS-B5ZV

    11 ай бұрын

    One was convicted of serious charges related to the images of minors, they did not get enough jail time in my opinion

  • @alicerichardson2541

    @alicerichardson2541

    10 ай бұрын

    like have u just noticed the law is for companies not the public rob a bank life 25+ years rob a person with assult 5 years tops out in 2

  • @dansymmons2250

    @dansymmons2250

    2 ай бұрын

    We live in a society where protecting corporate business is more important than protecting children. You pay tax but billionaires don't. This is the system people have voted for and now they've got it. Money over everything.

  • @Ryan-mw8zr
    @Ryan-mw8zr11 ай бұрын

    It'd be great if Jim White could go 10 seconds without interrupting someone

  • @karatsurba4791

    @karatsurba4791

    11 ай бұрын

    It's his job

  • @xNSHD

    @xNSHD

    11 ай бұрын

    @@karatsurba4791 to interrupt? is that in his job description is it?

  • @karatsurba4791

    @karatsurba4791

    11 ай бұрын

    @@xNSHD to take the conversation where he needs to.

  • @mjw8218

    @mjw8218

    11 ай бұрын

    Interuppting with shite too. Thing is, he gets it, but just plays devil's advocate for the purpose of the convo.

  • @kvnthms

    @kvnthms

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@mjw8218 Yeah, I get the feeling he doesn't even care about this issue. But acts as if its such a travesty to him for the sake of the show. He isn't even thinking about what Simon says and making a meaningful discussion. It's all just delfecting

  • @robertwoodward3085
    @robertwoodward308511 ай бұрын

    Simon spot on as usual...Jim white stating the obvious and calling for a cost reduction to suck up to the fans without accepting the undeniable fact that 95% of the revenues are going to greedy players, managers and agents

  • @norman5340

    @norman5340

    11 ай бұрын

    Jim is playing "devil's advocate," Jim is asking the questions to cover the different perspectives. So it's not necessarily his view.

  • @1574john
    @1574john11 ай бұрын

    If only we spent as much time preventing actual crime 🙄

  • @SK-kh2rs

    @SK-kh2rs

    11 ай бұрын

    Here we go. Let's pretend UK is Baghdad 😂

  • @frankdux5693

    @frankdux5693

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@SK-kh2rs in the UK you can literally steal a car while high on heroin and alcohol, crash into people waiting at a bus stop killing them and walk free from court. Then continue to commit crimes like burglary, knife and drug crimes, assault etc and over the course of the next 20 years have 100+ convictions and serve next to zero jail time. Then some guy getting over 10 years for helping people to see some football.

  • @Stinkmeaner420

    @Stinkmeaner420

    11 ай бұрын

    @@frankdux5693 wtf are you on about??

  • @frankdux5693

    @frankdux5693

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Stinkmeaner420 just giving a prime example how the justice system in the UK is a complete joke.

  • @dudebro3250

    @dudebro3250

    11 ай бұрын

    Tony Blair is a war criminal and still is as free as a bird.

  • @thompson223
    @thompson22311 ай бұрын

    Simon Jordan cuts through bullshit like no voice in football out there. An absolute gem that man is

  • @MW92.

    @MW92.

    11 ай бұрын

    Welcome to the jordanites thompson. Simon = top LAD proper clobber

  • @garypipe1770

    @garypipe1770

    11 ай бұрын

    Simon Jordan is completely right. You have to go back to the scource of the issue before you can then solve it.

  • @nicmonberg5974

    @nicmonberg5974

    11 ай бұрын

    @@garypipe1770 no hes not why can they allow other countries to sell every prem game for not even £10 per month yet in uk you get what 160 games and are paying close to £100 per month. SJ has no clue on the subject what you expect from a failed football owner

  • @sunnydevilliers6767

    @sunnydevilliers6767

    11 ай бұрын

    I agree even he,said the cancellation culture will come for him once he says something one day until them he will let rip. He told Sourness that

  • @sunnydevilliers6767

    @sunnydevilliers6767

    11 ай бұрын

    With how football has been tgis season I wouldn't have paid £5 a week..

  • @hello150
    @hello15011 ай бұрын

    Simon completely missing the point here. Buying Sky, BT etc doesn't allow you to watch your team's game necessarily. I'm a Wolves fan, and we are barely shown on those platforms. The bigger issue is this 3pm blackout.

  • @alastairbrewster4274

    @alastairbrewster4274

    11 ай бұрын

    Exactly

  • @samwize28

    @samwize28

    11 ай бұрын

    even if the 3pm blackout was removed - BT would only show one of the 3pms, and Sky one of the others. You still may end up being unable to watch your club play. Its not all 3pm kick offs too. Sometimes its Sunday 2pms that are inexplicably not shown in the UK. if i'm paying £75+ a month for two (or even 3) different subscriptions, I expect to be able to watch 100% of my clubs games. Until then i wont pay. Its like paying full whack for Netflix and only having access to episodes 2, 5 & 8 of a ten part tv series.

  • @tomwhite5868

    @tomwhite5868

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@hello150 The issue that I see with a service that provides all the games on any given day (like an official PL streaming service) is how high would the price point be then? £150 p/m? £200? More? They start showing more games, they'll charge more for it and then just turn around and say "you wanted this service, we have increased costs to make it happen". Where does the price line get drawn before people just don't watch football anymore (or just go to the pubs)

  • @hello150

    @hello150

    11 ай бұрын

    @@tomwhite5868 That's not necessarily what I envisage - mine would be more of a team based subscription. From my point of view, I only want to watch Wolves away games (as I attend all home games with a season ticket). I'm not arsed about other teams, but if you were, perhaps you could pay £10 a month per team you want to watch.

  • @2126beatz

    @2126beatz

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@samwize28 👏🏾💯 well said❤

  • @elliotfreeman8042
    @elliotfreeman804211 ай бұрын

    They're missing the point here! Even if you pay for a subscription, you still can't watch your club play each week.

  • @simonfarrimond3664

    @simonfarrimond3664

    11 ай бұрын

    there referring to the fact that everyweekend there is a least 2 matches shown live with the same big six clubs where as the smaller clubs barely get 1 per month so the money for each live game shown is so vast between the top 6 and the rest of the league is unfair to expect a palace fan to pay the same subscription as say a man city fan

  • @jakecook4816

    @jakecook4816

    11 ай бұрын

    Here’s a solution, don’t support a team from 200 miles away cause they win cups. Go watch your local team

  • @bazler7681

    @bazler7681

    11 ай бұрын

    @@jakecook4816 Etihad would be empty

  • @01JENNERS

    @01JENNERS

    11 ай бұрын

    @@jakecook4816 stupid argument, what about a lower league team that doesn’t win anything, you still can’t watch games. Every fan should have the opportunity to watch their team

  • @chr4617

    @chr4617

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@jakecook4816what if that local team has a small to medium sized stadium where all the local fans can't physically fit in the ground

  • @noogate2672
    @noogate267211 ай бұрын

    Fans don't want £30m players per se, they want success and the best players relative to whatever the market is. If the average price of a world class footballer was suddenly 10% of what it is now then no one would care.

  • @ivanaleksandartsanev1693

    @ivanaleksandartsanev1693

    11 ай бұрын

    The players would care. Why not be angry at them?

  • @simonfarrimond3664

    @simonfarrimond3664

    11 ай бұрын

    totally agree look at brighton signed players for 5m like macallister and mitoma but because they have had 1 good season there all of a sudden 50m plus players and clubs are daft enough to pay it so the inflation on transfer just mounts up

  • @jacksonbow2766

    @jacksonbow2766

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@simonfarrimond3664 That is the big problem with the clubs having so much money now. They are wasteful with it now. Made up numbers and clubs will pay it because there is a myth that paying the most gets success. The bubble will burst one day and it will not be pretty for the EPL.

  • @mnemonija

    @mnemonija

    11 ай бұрын

    Simon just hates capitalism when it does not suit him. Its supply and demand.

  • @axels9179

    @axels9179

    11 ай бұрын

    @@ivanaleksandartsanev1693 Because the players only want and deserve their fair share of the profits, which they partly get. What some people believe is that the sport itself generate too much money (at the expense of fans) - but going after the players is obviously the wrong people to target. Football is the biggest sport in the world with billion of fans, of course it's going to generate ludicrous amounts of money, especially when they allow oil nations and billionaries to get in on the action and spend their money for publicity/exposure/whitewashing/sportswashing. If the company you work for earns billions and your work directly influence their increased income, of course you'd expect to be paid accordingly.

  • @derektomlinson2521
    @derektomlinson252111 ай бұрын

    Totally agree with Simon, if you ran a normal company like a football club you wouldn’t survive. My opinion to the public is boycott all the broadcasters until they and football sort out their own houses. Market forces can dictate anything if you are willing to sacrifice for a while.

  • @FreshAlchemy

    @FreshAlchemy

    11 ай бұрын

    Simon just sat there and blamed the fans for demanding their clubs sign the next 30 or 40 million player, etc. It's not the fans who set the market value though, is it, they're just caught in the slipstream of the current financial climate. Simon's a hypocritical idiot, claiming he's all about "pulling the bottom up", yet he often speaks about the average working man as a king speaks about the peasants. He's a disgusting little oik.

  • @HdHd-hp6qz

    @HdHd-hp6qz

    11 ай бұрын

    He only moans about what’s wrong with it. He doesn’t give a solution.

  • @xbriskx

    @xbriskx

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@HdHd-hp6qz it's literally in the title of the video.

  • @angryanglocanadian7581

    @angryanglocanadian7581

    11 ай бұрын

    Only problem with your theory is that the British public is only a fraction of total revenue. They could care less about you when they have 'fans' all around the world.

  • @derektomlinson2521

    @derektomlinson2521

    11 ай бұрын

    @@angryanglocanadian7581 Then they are fools to keep giving their money, in these times. Can’t complain about prices if you support the mechanism of greed.

  • @vikingfrog7204
    @vikingfrog720411 ай бұрын

    I'll just keep streaming. You'll never stop it. Either stop the prices for ridiculous money or expect others to steal it on the cheap.

  • @johannesvonsaaz3987

    @johannesvonsaaz3987

    11 ай бұрын

    Why doesn’t Premier create their own channel for affordable prices and most people would then subscribe that would cut out most of illegal streams

  • @leemcqueen500

    @leemcqueen500

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@johannesvonsaaz3987 People will stream for free regardless of the price.

  • @petegonad
    @petegonad11 ай бұрын

    Player contracts should be based on a much lower basic salary, 100k a year for example, with much bigger bonuses for appearances and goals, performance related. No more 5 year contracts where they end up doing nothing and picking up 50k a week.

  • @lee84
    @lee8411 ай бұрын

    Simon made a great point to Jim about how on one hand he’s talking about reduction in TV costs but on the other hand talking non stop about sacking managers and transfers, both go hand in hand unfortunately

  • @Footballer85749

    @Footballer85749

    11 ай бұрын

    Who has the decision making power to sack managers and make transfers? Owners. But don't blame them they are forced by the "fans" lmao give me a break.

  • @MW92.

    @MW92.

    11 ай бұрын

    Simon = top LAD proper clobber

  • @nicmonberg5974

    @nicmonberg5974

    11 ай бұрын

    No he didnt if you drop the price subs increase so you end up making same money and reduce piracy this is a fact research had been conducted to show this.

  • @MrBarry465
    @MrBarry46511 ай бұрын

    The 3pm blackout has to be abolished if they are serious about stopping piracy.

  • @motomoto8383
    @motomoto838311 ай бұрын

    Simon is the only one who actually understands this

  • @Footballer85749

    @Footballer85749

    11 ай бұрын

    Sure but he also bootlicks Owners and leaves them out of the "equation" I wonder why?

  • @DarthQueefious

    @DarthQueefious

    11 ай бұрын

    He has it backwards.

  • @Collier990RHCP

    @Collier990RHCP

    11 ай бұрын

    He’s out of touch when it comes to this. £100 a month to him is change. He can’t relate

  • @SK-kh2rs

    @SK-kh2rs

    11 ай бұрын

    He's not. He makes out footballers just kick a ball about. He doesn't understand how difficult it is for someone to make it to EPL. Simon himself is a failed footballer like all us fans 😂 you are.literally competing with all the kids from your generation to make it as a pro. Footballers deserve every penny. No other sector you have to compete with a huge genetically diverse talent pool. You can teach someone to be a nurse but you can't teach anyone to be a pro at EPL level

  • @cdeford

    @cdeford

    11 ай бұрын

    Partly, but it's pointless asking players to voluntarily take lower wages. That's not the asnwer. It's all governed by self-interest and you have to force changes. That means it has to come from the football authorities whov'e shown no inclination to do anything. Or ownwers, who have the power to reduce wages but won't. Self-interest again.

  • @MrUmpalumpa99
    @MrUmpalumpa9911 ай бұрын

    The 3pm ban needs to be lifted. It was introduced before streaming sites were made so not broadcasting it defeats the purpose. I’m not going to watch my local team play when my football club isn’t on tv, I’ll find a steam and watch it at home

  • @lucasmoreno5330
    @lucasmoreno533011 ай бұрын

    Notice, Simon never mentioned how much profit is made by the broadcasters. Sky made a profit of £1.4bn in 2020. Instead he wants to cut the pay of the players. Every one of Simons (head blowing) response is laced with his pain of losing a fortune in football, which he no doubt blames on player wages.

  • @burner8959

    @burner8959

    11 ай бұрын

    Simon is transparent as the day is long. We've had these same tropes for years in America about our sports players. They trot this out every couple years and funnily enough it's not the fans who would benefit from player's cut salaries, but the owners themselves with a bigger profit margin. Meanwhile these owners are making money hand over fist while the value of their clubs skyrocket. Please Simon, don't act the fool you are.

  • @stephenokpunor6402

    @stephenokpunor6402

    11 ай бұрын

    you have a point but that doesn’t make him wrong, he’s spot on about the fact that they pay this players ridiculous wages and it can only kill the game

  • @simonfarrimond3664

    @simonfarrimond3664

    11 ай бұрын

    most of the SKY profit is from over seas countries of how much they are willing to pay per country to have the PL rights to show

  • @robandrews8047

    @robandrews8047

    11 ай бұрын

    BSKYB made that profit but that’s across all products and services not just related to football

  • @keiththomas1416

    @keiththomas1416

    11 ай бұрын

    Ahhh......so 'business is now a charity' argument and making a profit is immoral. Well why not go the whole hog and nationalize football, and make every club 'people owned' in whatever Socialist Utopia you live in? Of course this excellent idea which you and so many of your Comrades often overlook is that football are often become the political playthings. I can imagine the massive benefits of having a PM has a Villa fan running the game. Maybe with the Great Leader Corbyn in charge Arsenal will win everything for eternity, or Raith Rovers becoming a powerhouse of European Football under Gordon Brown. I especially can't wait for all the Tory shires benefitting from extra revenue, after all there are loyal voters to be rewarded....

  • @masilomoshesh1475
    @masilomoshesh147511 ай бұрын

    I live in a 3rd world country and we pay much less for access to European football. You lot are getting scammed just to watch games that play in your own town/city/country.

  • @Denchanter

    @Denchanter

    11 ай бұрын

    You pay what you can afford. It’s called economics

  • @gillie-monger3394

    @gillie-monger3394

    11 ай бұрын

    Listen to the argument ffs! You pay less simply because your provider pays less. And why do they pay less? Because the overall demand in your '3rd world country' is less. Probably because there's not enough people with enough money to waste watching English football. And btw, there's no such thing as '3rd world' anymore it's called a 'developing country'.

  • @masilomoshesh1475

    @masilomoshesh1475

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Denchanter Fair point but the subscriptions are almost similar in price. We just have DSTV/ Go TV as the cable network for most of the southern part of Africa and their able to get the broadcasting rights from these league. I've always taken them for granted.

  • @sweetdukes7031

    @sweetdukes7031

    11 ай бұрын

    @@gillie-monger3394 that has got to be the dumbest argument I've ever heard. There are countries outside the UK that have a larger population and also has a larger following for teams like Arsenal, Man Utd, etc

  • @Denchanter

    @Denchanter

    11 ай бұрын

    @@sweetdukes7031 it’s not a dumb argument. I accept that he was rude.

  • @welshhibby
    @welshhibby11 ай бұрын

    Simon really is the 'jewel in the crown' of TalkSport.

  • @michaelcain721

    @michaelcain721

    11 ай бұрын

    Diamond in a turd more like

  • @FreshAlchemy

    @FreshAlchemy

    11 ай бұрын

    He belongs here, this is his level. You're all getting blinded by his hypocritical bullshit.

  • @Baldrick_dogsbody

    @Baldrick_dogsbody

    11 ай бұрын

    I have a friend of mine whose first name is jewel. And he is a man. No joke.

  • @theh3mpourium113

    @theh3mpourium113

    8 ай бұрын

    About the only one who speaks sense and actually understands the common man 😂

  • @Tricky181
    @Tricky18111 ай бұрын

    Carlton definitely has a dodgy streaming box

  • @pac8827

    @pac8827

    11 ай бұрын

    😂 he’s got the fire stick hooked up

  • @kylejohnson5764

    @kylejohnson5764

    11 ай бұрын

    he don't age that's all I know.. that's the real conundrum here lol

  • @jtmmmm27
    @jtmmmm2711 ай бұрын

    People are currently choosing to have either food or gas, paying to watch football doesn't even enter the thought proccess.

  • @joshuaskelton8737
    @joshuaskelton873711 ай бұрын

    To be fair would happily pay £50 a month to be able to watch every game the team I support plays. Pretty sure alot of other people would too.

  • @sickofit3192

    @sickofit3192

    11 ай бұрын

    Nailed it!

  • @teamblitz1990
    @teamblitz199011 ай бұрын

    There has to be a realistic discussion about players salaries. This is destroying football.

  • @FreshAlchemy

    @FreshAlchemy

    11 ай бұрын

    100% agree. I'm not a big fan of buzzwords like 'sustainable', but clearly the direction football finances have been heading in for a while now is completely unsustainable.

  • @russellharvey698

    @russellharvey698

    11 ай бұрын

    GREED

  • @randomdudelol5263

    @randomdudelol5263

    11 ай бұрын

    you should never blame it on the players salary, these guys played at a club level specifically for football since they were children. on average epl player gets about 3 to 4 mil and yet other sports like nba for example each player make 9 mil on average, average mlb player makes almost 5 mil, and these people didnt put in as much time as the average footballers since they were young, yet football wants to add in more games like with new ucl format, new club world cup format, new world cup format, its totally not fair no matter where u see it from, they should just make a closed super league and sort things out cleanly or smth

  • @russellharvey698

    @russellharvey698

    11 ай бұрын

    @@randomdudelol5263 the flaw in your argument is that I bet if you check the NBA those teams arent in debt and constantly lose money! Also, it was and is a privilege to play for a club, these kids get plucked and supported for a long time! They means their families usually benefit too. As for competitions, that is down to UEFA and mafifa who want more money..... and why ... guess what ITS BECAUSE THE PLAYERS WANT BIG SALARIES AND ARE ALWAYS ASKING FOR MORE! GREED GREED GREED!

  • @randomdudelol5263

    @randomdudelol5263

    11 ай бұрын

    @@russellharvey698 its not crazy at all, theyre supposed to ask more money, football is the most popular sports in the world but they still dont make as much as nfl cuz nfl can market their goods better, there are a lot more matches pirated in football than any other sports and its also weird that footballs prob the only sports that the big teams are fragmented as divided into completely different leagues, theyre supposed unite the big teams and find a way to stop pirating games, so more ppl watch legally and price goes down, never blame the players for the flawed system

  • @steve0500738
    @steve050073811 ай бұрын

    It will hit a point where the broadcasters will start losing too many customers to be able to make the arrangement with the Premier League profitable, at which point the bids for the rights will plateau or start falling. You might say someone else will come in and take over, and they might, but if Sky and BT cant make it profitable at certain price points, then any new broadcaster will have the same issue.

  • @vincentkariuki4227

    @vincentkariuki4227

    11 ай бұрын

    This is bound to happen especially for sky...when comcast overplayed by alot for sky they were asking a gamble on sky being bigger than it already was,the biggest issue for sky is soccer has a stranglehold on UK among other sports,if they don't have the epl I think they fear they might even take a bigger hit with less subscriptions....I think if the epl was growing it audience in the UK on a free to air channel ,they broadcaster would have no choice but to get a deal that makes sense for them considering they are at the mercy of the advertisers and perhaps it would be an slight overpay while projecting towards the future but at the current moment with sky seems like the epl has them over a barrel and in turn sky thinks they are doing the same to their subscribers...the same goes for other markets every time the media rights are renewed the dish always increases to cover the overpay cos these companies can't make a loss especially if they have investors

  • @mnb9162

    @mnb9162

    11 ай бұрын

    They all over-pay for Prem rights in order to up- sell all their other terrible content.... That's the model... Get the rights to a slice of Prem/UCL football... Then up-sell a tonne of sh*t...

  • @alexojideagu

    @alexojideagu

    11 ай бұрын

    A huge amount of the Population DON'T have Sky/BT/Amazon due to price. Surely if they made it cheaper, more people would subscribe and it would take up the slack? 10 million houses paying £75 a month is better than 5 million paying £140 a month. Keep the same pricing for Pubs and business as they are more able to make money from it.

  • @mnb9162

    @mnb9162

    11 ай бұрын

    @@alexojideagu The maths will be scrutinized and its likely that making it cheaper doesnt result in a big enough increase in subs.... Thre is a core base of customers who will pay the money regardless.... There is also the issue of up-selling.... SKY, BT, Amazon... All of these platforms up-sell their whole catalogue by trying to get you in the door with a bit of Prem or UCL football.... Making you pay for a tonne of sh*t....

  • @BirdLives7

    @BirdLives7

    11 ай бұрын

    Prem should create their own Netflix just for football content. Say 40/ per month to watch every match whenever you want.

  • @DazMellor17
    @DazMellor1711 ай бұрын

    Incredible, Simon spits facts and Jim is just emotionally unstable about it 🤣🤣

  • @ticklemetrout9625
    @ticklemetrout962511 ай бұрын

    It shows how bad the uk justice system is when they get a sentence like this but ( how can i word this without it being taken down ) someone can do a saville and get far less time inside.

  • @craigoliver8712

    @craigoliver8712

    11 ай бұрын

    Shows what people really care about(the green not justice)

  • @ticklemetrout9625

    @ticklemetrout9625

    11 ай бұрын

    @@craigoliver8712 totally agree

  • @abyss7049
    @abyss704911 ай бұрын

    The real criminals are the broadcasters. The guys that were sentenced are modern Robin Hood's in my opinion!!! Also if the broadcasters reduced what they were willing to pay to acquire these rights, then these greedy footballers on huge contracts would have no option to reduce their demands when the greed fuelled contracts they are already on were coming to an end. If broadcasters agreed that there was a threshold they were not willing to go above in terms of paying for rights then the prices would come down. However, this will never happen, because if one broadcaster did bid lower the other broadcaster would just go higher. It's a vicious circle

  • @JnoPrds

    @JnoPrds

    11 ай бұрын

    You’ve got it the wrong way around. Broadcasters have to pay high because that’s what the premier league (ie the 20 member clubs) set the price at. The clubs set this price because they have to pay crazy player salaries. If you trace it back to the origin it stops at the players and their agents. You introduce a pay cap then everything flows through and would cost less. You have to trace the money back all the way. You can’t stop at the middle of the chain (ie at broadcasters).

  • @abyss7049

    @abyss7049

    11 ай бұрын

    @@JnoPrds Even if thats true, the broadcasters could say we won't bid a penny over this. Gentleman handshake, but thats cuckoo land to think that would ever happen. Clubs can ask for what they want but if broadcasters refused to pay it then it would trickle down. It's just a shambles

  • @aaronfrancis134
    @aaronfrancis13411 ай бұрын

    Simons a businessman and he only ever looks at things from that perspective. Businessman don’t care about your everyday human. We’re numbers and money to them

  • @alastairbrewster4274

    @alastairbrewster4274

    11 ай бұрын

    Absolutely

  • @KJB99UTS14

    @KJB99UTS14

    11 ай бұрын

    Listen to what he saying people's greed from sport stars and sport agents milking it. Everyone in the game milking as much they can (don't blame them ). It's basically its a domino effect and the people that suffer the most is the working person that needs to pay more to cover all the other costs . For the braodcasters to pay to show it and pay the league . League pay the clubs and the clubs pay the players . Domino effect .

  • @ivanaleksandartsanev1693

    @ivanaleksandartsanev1693

    11 ай бұрын

    I rarely ever agree with Jordan but he is 100% correct in his assessment and it takes very simple economical and financial knowledge to understand that. But most people are simpletons that need their hand being held.

  • @motomoto8383

    @motomoto8383

    11 ай бұрын

    YES THATS WHY YOURE BEING RIPPED OFF BY SKY BT ETC. AND WHY YOU PAY 90 QUID FOR A JERSEY

  • @vincentkariuki4227

    @vincentkariuki4227

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@KJB99UTS14 It's not the EPL that sets the price for the Sky sports package or BT...if you overpay the media rights to a league seems like you've put your company in a bind cos then you have to overcharge the customer and thats what happens...its not the players...its the greed of the networks who seem stupid enough to pay the epl way too money for a relatively smaller audience than what other major sports league get...3ish million a game for 10mi pounds,that's insane...that's just sky....its really stupid passing along the cost to the viewing audience cos there's going to be a tipping point where less people can afford 200 pounds a month to watch a few EPL games

  • @andrewbarwick6370
    @andrewbarwick637011 ай бұрын

    I actually think the problem is the blackout. People don’t necessarily opt to commit crimes to watch football because of the price points. It’s an access issue. Because the games aren’t televised in the UK and only abroad, so the only option to watch your team is by committing a crime. This in 2023 is utterly ridiculous. Most people aren’t generally criminals, but you have to understand fans love there teams so much they will do whatever it takes to watch them live. I think if Sky for example had broadcast rights for every Premier League game, people would happily subscribe. They could offer single team access for a cheaper price for people who only want to watch there side. You could also then have a full season package for a higher cost. Would this fix the problem entirely? Absolutely not, but it would certainly help. I’m a Newcastle fan and getting a ticket is pretty much impossible, due to demand. Everybody should be able to watch there side if they are willing to pay and watch it through legal means.

  • @langtonmudzva6202
    @langtonmudzva620211 ай бұрын

    Michael Jordan once explained why its crazy how athletes now get crazy amounts of money just off the potential they possess. Athletes now have clauses & packages with certain guaranteed payouts, some players have clauses with private planes with their families/entourage. Jordan says some athletes have lost the principal of earning the rewards of your talent. We've seen players like Oscar literally saying he went to China because of the ridiculous high wages. Now we have players who don't care about playing/give 100% effort as long as the money is coming in. On top of that due to this crazy money some players get a "bigger than the club" treatment because of their monetary value for the business side of the club. At some point it makes football boring & fans are at the receiving end of clubs wanting to make their money back from these amounts they pay for players

  • @gunzlepug

    @gunzlepug

    11 ай бұрын

    Sure have seen players showing little desire and giving minimal effort because they get paid whatever. Life of Rily.

  • @notfirstyourlast
    @notfirstyourlast11 ай бұрын

    Quite easy Simon, when The FA are selling rights, make the caveat that they buy the rights to all games. If the clubs get less revenue so be it. They will adjust their spend and budgets accordingly.

  • @vincentkariuki4227

    @vincentkariuki4227

    11 ай бұрын

    That's not how it works,the epl sells packages to the networks,some big some small...paid tv has programming too and games are played on certain days cos of some antitrust laws...if sky is buying its package of not so many games at 10m a game that's as a result of scarcity...the major problem and what Simon doesn't address well is that unless the broadcasters have a stake in the epl they are under no obligation to overpay rights fees,but they do cos it allows them to then increase the sub for sky sports cos they know there is a huge segment that will stay regardless of how much they are overcharged...if ad revenue isn't increasing at the same proportion as subscription money that tells you everything you need to know about the business model or even the carriage fees from the cable or satellite operator

  • @daviel1005
    @daviel100511 ай бұрын

    If you are paying much more than £50/month for BT and Sky combined, you need to check your monthly bill and see what else is in there. The guy saying he was paying £160/month probably calls his mate in Australia twice a day and wonders why his monthly bill is so high. Goodness knows I've got family members like that.

  • @leemc5646

    @leemc5646

    11 ай бұрын

    😁

  • @ryanflood635

    @ryanflood635

    11 ай бұрын

    You can get Sky for £20 a month if you go through now tv and get a deal. But again price is one issue but the biggest problem is they pick and choose what games to show

  • @All-Things-Boxing

    @All-Things-Boxing

    11 ай бұрын

    If you can’t afford £160 per month for something like Tv/broadband etc then you’re not working hard enough. We all have the same 24hrs on a day, get up and be a go getter!

  • @mikem8211

    @mikem8211

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@All-Things-Boxing I'm on 300 a day & I'm struggling mate god knows how the people on 25k a year even survive never mind pay sky 😅

  • @Stinkmeaner420

    @Stinkmeaner420

    11 ай бұрын

    @@All-Things-Boxing nothing wrong with paying 160 a month, EXCEPT YOU DON'T EVEN GET HALF THE GAMES COS OF THE FUCKIN BLACKOUT

  • @tevildo45
    @tevildo4511 ай бұрын

    It’s mad that people only get angry at footballers earning loads a money, maybe it’s cos they’re working class. Pop stars, golfers, F1 drivers, top tennis players, politicians all make massive amounts of money but nobody seems to mind that

  • @thatsplenty1

    @thatsplenty1

    11 ай бұрын

    Nonsense

  • @tevildo45

    @tevildo45

    11 ай бұрын

    I agree Martin. As usual Simon is talking nonsense

  • @alastairbrewster4274

    @alastairbrewster4274

    11 ай бұрын

    @@thatsplenty1 bet you voted brexit , you have no analytical intelligence

  • @roddiej

    @roddiej

    11 ай бұрын

    I think this argument applies to all live broadcasts. Football is only being used as the example. Come on guys…

  • @rafaundisputedgoat2024

    @rafaundisputedgoat2024

    11 ай бұрын

    Remember, top tennis players is VERY limited to players like Federer, Djokovic, Nadal, Murray and Williams over the years. This is also based on performances in tournaments, and money from sponsors. You can't steal a living for 5 years like Drinkwater in tennis. The quantity of players in the Premier League earning huge sums is much, much higher.

  • @Rain188
    @Rain18811 ай бұрын

    No wonder most of those players pass by fans without looking at them. Even the most mediocre player is a privileged millionaire if not multi millionaire

  • @alastairbrewster4274

    @alastairbrewster4274

    11 ай бұрын

    You’re totally misunderstanding the entire situation , you just love SJ and can’t see beyond your nose

  • @russellward4624

    @russellward4624

    11 ай бұрын

    Why shouldn't they be paid what they deserve?

  • @jonnewman7203
    @jonnewman720311 ай бұрын

    TV companies pay exorbitant amounts to secure rights, then charge advertisers and subscribers exorbitant amounts accordingly to try and make a profit. We, the public, have no say in what advertisers pay, yet we end up as end consumers paying a premium on those products and complain about price inflation. Same with sponsors - they just keep paying higher prices and we ultimately get hit in the pocket. The only way it will end is if people stop buying products associated with football, which let's face it isn't going to happen any time soon.

  • @paparucoontour
    @paparucoontour11 ай бұрын

    Two main issues that need to be addressed; 1. Player wages. Put a cap in place. Agree at PL level what would it be and implement it. Maybe at the start there will be a few players that go elsewhere but it will all fall into place no doubt. It would also mean real competition and more clubs fighting for titles. 2. Agents. These leeches are ransacking football across the board. Until this people are not put in their place nothing will change.

  • @markusbisma5015

    @markusbisma5015

    11 ай бұрын

    It only works if the cap implemented in all the top leagues in Europe. Otherwise Real Madrid, PSG, and Barca will only gobble up the talents.

  • @JY-100
    @JY-10011 ай бұрын

    Simon Jordan AGAIN. Nothing but facts. What a guy.

  • @lfcspectre4335

    @lfcspectre4335

    11 ай бұрын

    Top Lad Proper Clobber ✊💯 Facts

  • @MW92.

    @MW92.

    11 ай бұрын

    The DON only speaks in fluent truths. Simon = top LAD proper clobber. Welcome to the jordanites JY

  • @rndompersn3426
    @rndompersn342611 ай бұрын

    I kinda agree with Jordon but its not just football and footballers. This is a phenomena all over the entertainment industry. Take Ticketmaster for instance. They take the lionshare of money for events and dont really offer anything other than tickets that you have to print out yourself anyway. Its just one of the consequences of capitalism. Same with landlords.

  • @camcunningham9443

    @camcunningham9443

    11 ай бұрын

    Lol at same with landlords. You are clueless beyond belief. The landlords are just a tier up. They’re still at the behest of the banks

  • @bubbwa
    @bubbwa11 ай бұрын

    It’s all about availability! Why can’t I watch my team when they play? I live in the uk and pay for all the subscriptions but can’t watch my team on a Saturday at 3pm when the rest of the world can!

  • @roathripper
    @roathripper11 ай бұрын

    it used to be free on ITV and BBC, it's the national game, fans think it's their birthright to watch. They've seen how far it's gone and in this age of financial crisis won't put up with the fleecing no more.

  • @aeyassu10
    @aeyassu1011 ай бұрын

    PL needs to launch a subscription based platform like the NBA League Pass here in the USA. It’s only $90 per year if you want to follow one team or $200 for all teams.

  • @craigoliver8712

    @craigoliver8712

    11 ай бұрын

    But baggy ball is yawn

  • @kvnthms

    @kvnthms

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@craigoliver8712 But they get more from broadcasters. Why would they do that. That would mean less ppl watching on Sky Bt and less money Sky Bt would pay to them.

  • @craigoliver8712

    @craigoliver8712

    11 ай бұрын

    @@kvnthms Think you've answered the wrong dude-dude

  • @kvnthms

    @kvnthms

    11 ай бұрын

    @@craigoliver8712 Yeah 🤣

  • @kirkham111

    @kirkham111

    11 ай бұрын

    @@kvnthmsif the prem did their own subscription service for £9pm they would make and absolute fortune more then what the Broadcasters make them

  • @yester9037
    @yester903711 ай бұрын

    Player Salaries are a result of the high revenue generated by the game, not the other way round.

  • @Killerkwoi13

    @Killerkwoi13

    11 ай бұрын

    No it isn’t. The high salaries are a result of Russian and Arab money coming into the game and absolutely destroying the eco system of the wage / revenue structure of football

  • @hi-ls6lt

    @hi-ls6lt

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Killerkwoi13 just Russian and Arab money? Explain the likes of Man Utd and Barcelona then who have paid some players extortionate money and now it’s coming back to haunt them.

  • @Killerkwoi13

    @Killerkwoi13

    11 ай бұрын

    @@hi-ls6lt because state owned arab clubs and russian oligarch money caused hyper inflation in the eco system of wages, destroying the balance of clubs only spending what they generate. Utd and barca overpay but that isn't their fault originally, and its not just those clubs, but all clubs in the prem basically have to overpay now, because our wage structure is out of control, blame chelsea, citeh, psg for that

  • @eXpressYourselfClips

    @eXpressYourselfClips

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@hi-ls6lt Right! Everyone involved is to blame and whoever can't see that is biased

  • @russellward4624

    @russellward4624

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@Killerkwoi13 this is BS. Citys wage bill was half Barca and Reals just 2 years ago. City have never had a single player on 500k a week. Barca and Real have had loads. Who says they have to have the best players? They don't have a devine right to have the highest wage bill.

  • @batman1980
    @batman198011 ай бұрын

    Spot on Simon. Footballers could earn half and still be mega rich and never need to work again. IPTV would only be killed off if legitimate subscription services were pretty much equivalent to the cost of IPTV and to achieve that they would have to pay less for the rights which gives clubs less to spend on players. The future is bleak, I can see even more subscription services in the future so at the moment we have sky, bt and Amazon, but in the long term the number of providers will grow as TV revenue will only grow IMO. Thus IPTV will continue.

  • @kaypakaipa8559

    @kaypakaipa8559

    11 ай бұрын

    Nonsense u just as clueless as Simon Jordan! Theres something called supply & demand, players are paid by us bcoz we give them the money! Stop paying in masse and broadcaster will adjust price and re negotiate payouts with clubs

  • @SanaagSoulja
    @SanaagSoulja11 ай бұрын

    Interesting debate. I think FIFA and UEFA need to do something about the over-inflated salaries and transfer fees. Apparently, FFP regulations are not enough. If things don't change, piracy will become the norm and you can't blame the consumers, to be honest.

  • @davidheaton5765
    @davidheaton576511 ай бұрын

    It's a circle of greed, from the broadcasters to footballers, owners, and sponsors. We are all the gullible cattle that keep them as the 1%.

  • @willmoseling3359
    @willmoseling335911 ай бұрын

    This is just 14 minutes of Jim and Carlton completely misunderstanding Simon’s argument. If it’s the case that 95% of the broadcasting money goes straight into the pockets of players, then how much wiggle room is there really for lowering subscriptions prices, without player salary cuts? The broadcasting money is a major source of income for clubs, and so if clubs are constantly having to spend more and more on wages and fees as a result of a hyper-inflated market, then the broadcasting costs set by the PL need to be higher, and so broadcasting services pay more and need to charge us more to make it viable. No change happens without the club running costs, vast majority of which is player salaries, coming down first!

  • @AJ-xv7oh

    @AJ-xv7oh

    11 ай бұрын

    Alot of wiggle room. Everyone involved is making extraordinary profits and that's just at 5%.

  • @willmoseling3359

    @willmoseling3359

    11 ай бұрын

    @@AJ-xv7oh Clubs aren't making extraordinary profits. That 5% is left for wages of the rest of the staff, running costs etc.

  • @d3po607

    @d3po607

    11 ай бұрын

    YOUR PART OF THE PROBELM the price of the monthly subscription is not the real problem its the 3pm blackout. i have been able to pay for all subscriptions for years now but on principle if they can not show every single match im not paying for any of them.

  • @101Larz

    @101Larz

    11 ай бұрын

    True but put this the other way around, if you make the cost of broadcasting cheaper then players can’t keep asking for these insane wages because they will simply not get it. Also in the UK people are getting ripped off, I live in the Netherlands and pay a total of €25 a month (£20) to watch every premier league, champions league, fa cup, carabao cup and the Europa league. Not to mention I can watch most of the other leagues as well. You guys are paying 5 times to not be able to watch 3 pm kick-offs.

  • @d3po607

    @d3po607

    11 ай бұрын

    @@101Larz how does player wages effect the 3pm blackout. it doesnt plus i dont pay any subscription. i would if all matches were avaible but since i cant get them all i pay for non of them. Plus players deserve what they get what should chnage is how they are paid i.e performance based if they play bad those on 250,000 need a reduction based on how they play

  • @redouanedjerboua8869
    @redouanedjerboua886911 ай бұрын

    Simon, everyone who buys a product is responsible for the price he is paying for that product. If a product is overpriced, that's not the product fault. The salaries offered to players are outrageous, but that's not the player's fault. PL is paying clubs, that is their fault, broadcaster are paying the PL, their mistake and consumers are buying subscriptions, game tickets...their fault as well. You can only regulate this if every buyer stops buying overpriced products, and that would be mainly clubs, big clubs are driving players prices to indecent amounts

  • @miller2624
    @miller262411 ай бұрын

    I gave up on football about 10 years ago . I refuse to line millionaire players pockets .

  • @patrickkelly6590
    @patrickkelly659011 ай бұрын

    Players don't pay themselves big wages! The clubs offer the money.. What is a player gona do say no?

  • @craigoliver8712

    @craigoliver8712

    11 ай бұрын

    Make even a token gesture to give back like Juan Mata+a few others have(way too few though)

  • @patrickkelly6590

    @patrickkelly6590

    11 ай бұрын

    @@craigoliver8712 or people stop getting the service because of the price and market forces will drive it down thus players wages will drop due to less revenue or a salary cap there is no other way the subscription falls in price.

  • @JimMelton-uf7rg

    @JimMelton-uf7rg

    11 ай бұрын

    10% of their wages should go back to their local community.

  • @patrickkelly6590

    @patrickkelly6590

    11 ай бұрын

    @@JimMelton-uf7rg 10 percent would stay in the local community if people stopped paying ridiculous amounts for Sky/BT sports in the first place.. Cancel your subscription and watch the price fall..

  • @soccerwagsgfo
    @soccerwagsgfo11 ай бұрын

    Simon Jordan hates players. Why can't Sky take a pay cut, How much money does SKY MAKE FROM THE PREMIER LEAGUE EVERY YEAR FROM ADVERTISING, GAMBLING, AND SUBSCRIPTION FEES? You only want the players to take a pay cut.

  • @darkelf2674
    @darkelf267411 ай бұрын

    Simon is completely right%!, It’s all driven by salaries and transfer fees

  • @stuandtheguitar5689
    @stuandtheguitar568911 ай бұрын

    Why cant there be a game pass? The NFL do it. You pay for the season, and can watch any game you want. This way i get to see the LA Rams EVERY week

  • @lfcspectre4335
    @lfcspectre433511 ай бұрын

    Sir Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber ✊

  • @MW92.

    @MW92.

    11 ай бұрын

    Just the fact I needed to see through some of these BS comments.

  • @WhiteScriber
    @WhiteScriber11 ай бұрын

    i would assume that almost all players in pro football would prefer to play for 2k a week, rather than flipping burgers or being in jail, which would be their most likely outcome, at least for most of them. you would see the same football, and the tickets would be affordable. and the tv rights would be much lower and they could refinance the cost through advertising easily. all games could start at the same time saturday afternoon. problem is greed....

  • @Jordan-qj7we

    @Jordan-qj7we

    11 ай бұрын

    Exactly. If you said to all players in top leagues, no matter who you are or what your name is, you get 10k per week take it or leave it, not sure many of them would turn it down to go work on checkouts at their local tesco.

  • @WhiteScriber

    @WhiteScriber

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Jordan-qj7we spot on

  • @ianj7789
    @ianj778911 ай бұрын

    I am a English Leeds United fan living in Perth Australia. It is too expensive here also. Though i'm not an Aussie rules fan, their game has salary caps It is way to expensive because - 1- Players are paid to much, Salary Caps. Players today would rather play, & better for their clubs than their country, WHY ? Money, they get paid so much the British pounds/Aus dollars, Euros etc slip out of their pockets 2 - Managers paid too much. 3 Greed of money by Broadcasters/people such as Optus, Sky sports, BT Etc, Betting companies (it has all become a big money game/Sports world) 4 - Game & season ticket, kit/product prices are too high, It is SUPPOSED TO BE the WORKING MANS GAME ! All prices driven up by fore mentioned items. Like a snowball it all adds & grows to the final big snowball. Everybody wants "THEIR PIECE OF THE PIE" !!

  • @jaedon7446
    @jaedon744611 ай бұрын

    I would love to see the data Simon is talking about to suggest that elastic demand does not exist for football. I understand his point “if you lower ticket prices, other accommodations will rise”, but I find it very hard to believe that if you lower the price of tickets and tv subscriptions, that demand for said product would not increase.

  • @Footballer85749
    @Footballer8574911 ай бұрын

    Like a true businessman Simon is the biggest gaslighter in football. Never mentioned owners even ONCE. Surprise surprise.

  • @JnoPrds

    @JnoPrds

    11 ай бұрын

    The biggest expense of every club are player remuneration, transfer fees and agent fees. I don’t know what your point is. Even if every football owner was running as a non profit and they don’t take salary or money out, the cost base of players don’t change. Hence broadcast rights remain high. Hence ticket and streaming price remain high. It’s the players that our taking the most money out of the pockets of the average punter. Don’t be a bigot and accept facts.

  • @Stimson122
    @Stimson12211 ай бұрын

    Would absolutely love for there to be a streaming service similar to the what the NBA and NFL have, where every single game is available. Understand that’s a lot easier said than done though

  • @BirdLives7

    @BirdLives7

    11 ай бұрын

    Agree, say they charge 40-50 per month to be able to stream any game whenever you want. They could make 5-6 billion per year in broadcast miney and the fans would get what they want.

  • @SpookyBry

    @SpookyBry

    11 ай бұрын

    Already here in America. $10/mo gets every prom game and that networks entire catalogue. For ~$25/mo and combining multiple subscriptions, we get every game in the top 5 leagues in Europe including the championship, FA Cup, Europa and UEFA Champions League. I am mind-boggled learning how bad you're own country has it. I had no idea.

  • @guyjackson1261
    @guyjackson126111 ай бұрын

    Simon is 100% correct. The market is what it is, if you want to change it then the wages, cost of players and broadcasting rights will all have to come down. The fact of it is they don't need to, it is sustainable because enough people are willing to pay for match tickets/subscriptions. No amount of idealism or whining will change these facts.

  • @Yob365
    @Yob36511 ай бұрын

    Yall made fun of Florentino Perez and Allegri when they said football was going in an unsustainable direction. You know what one of the main key points of the Super League was ? Salary/wage caps!!!!!!

  • @Hulkage7
    @Hulkage711 ай бұрын

    I think the problem is that you cant follow your team in every game, with these UK subscriptions. You want to watch every game your team play, but you cant because of the 3pm blackout, which is now a stupid rule. For some clubs its so hard to get tickets/ season tickets, so how else are you suppose to watch your team play if its not broadcast, or you cant get a ticket without finding a "dodgy stream".

  • @Dave-nq6uy

    @Dave-nq6uy

    11 ай бұрын

    Dodgy? Bro, some of these streams are HD and work perfectly.

  • @Hulkage7

    @Hulkage7

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Dave-nq6uy Yeah but they still class as dodgy

  • @Dave-nq6uy

    @Dave-nq6uy

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Hulkage7 dodgy is charging people lots of money to watch a few games a month. Streams are fine.

  • @craigshurmur6132
    @craigshurmur613211 ай бұрын

    We need Simon’s idea of the Netflix of football

  • @MrCarnivoure
    @MrCarnivoure11 ай бұрын

    Yes, the prices are too high, particularly that to watch every game, apart from Saturday blackout, you have to go into contract with several broadcasters. It should only be one broadcaster

  • @johndeighan2495
    @johndeighan249511 ай бұрын

    Totally 100% agree w Simon. It's too easy to blame agents. Nobody likes agents, but they're only jumping on a gravy train set in motion by player greed. I put my money where my mouth is: I refuse to line their pockets by way of PL subscriptions, merch, season tickets etc. PL should agree a salary cap. If the players don't like it they can all sod off to Paris.

  • @dmerls8571
    @dmerls857111 ай бұрын

    I agree that the average premier league football fan is ravenous for player spending. They will picket on the streets against a chairman they think doesn't spend enough or well enough. But I sense Simon Jordan would never consider criticizing the owners and corporate leaders for their parts in the ever expanding prices.

  • @Footballer85749

    @Footballer85749

    11 ай бұрын

    Exactly. He says everyone is part of the problem, but fails to mention the owners. Why? Because he still does business with them.

  • @lks3416
    @lks341611 ай бұрын

    This guy Never misses a chance to blame the most essential part football...the players

  • @johnjones8026

    @johnjones8026

    11 ай бұрын

    hes not wrong those is he? the only reason players are on so much is down to the TV money, this is the sole reason the premier league is where it is. If TV money stopped, you bet your bottom dollar that the salaries wouldnt go up so much.

  • @JRK2669

    @JRK2669

    11 ай бұрын

    The players are greedy brats

  • @saab2906

    @saab2906

    11 ай бұрын

    @@johnjones8026 add a salary cap job done but they don’t care so they won’t and haven’t bothered

  • @Killerkwoi13

    @Killerkwoi13

    11 ай бұрын

    Fans are the most integral part of football, not players

  • @diegolove173

    @diegolove173

    11 ай бұрын

    It's not the player's fault ! Sky and the FA did this now the EPL is the most watch league in the world and you have to attract the best players to sell the right of the league

  • @stevethomas4310
    @stevethomas431011 ай бұрын

    Simon talks a lot of sense. The problem here is that people interrupt him and change the point of discussion so you never get the full rounded answer.

  • @JohnDoe-gx8di

    @JohnDoe-gx8di

    11 ай бұрын

    LOOL as Carlton said.. "thats one way of looking at it, but I look at in in another way "🤣🤣🤣

  • @FreshAlchemy

    @FreshAlchemy

    11 ай бұрын

    Simon also talks a lot of crap. It takes a critical eye to spot his constant BS but most thickos just think agreeing with everything he says makes them look and feel smart.

  • @FreshAlchemy

    @FreshAlchemy

    11 ай бұрын

    @@JohnDoe-gx8di Well what's funny about that, Simon is only giving his personal opinion as a failed football club manager. He's often wrong, hence why he's a failed football club manager.

  • @lukewilliams419
    @lukewilliams41911 ай бұрын

    This issue need to be looked at through the perspective of 3 parties. Premier league/broadcasters and finally fans. Currently the league are benefitting the most in this 3 way relationship, the broadcasters have an average deal as they are paying exorbitant prices to the premier league rights and losing customers to illegal streams however they charge an arm and a leg for a select number of games. The fan is the worst off, multiple packages, cost etc. How do we change this whilst trying to keep competition amongst broadcasters? My answer would be the premier league should offer a flat fee (set by the FA) which means 5/6 broadcasters can have access to all games not a select few. Naturally the market forces will determine the monthly fee, for example I would rather pay Amazon £20 a month for all games with no analysis/punditry than paying £130 for BT with Neville et al. But some fans might be willing to pay more for this. For my fellow economic nerds a natural oligopoly has to be cultured. Unless something like this happens the premier league bubble will burst and we will see players leaving wholesale to other leagues as clubs can't maintain wages or we will see premier league games held in 'more profitable' locations.......

  • @MrUmpalumpa99
    @MrUmpalumpa9911 ай бұрын

    I think the majority of consumers wouldn’t mind paying the costs if they were allowed to watch every game but the fact about 25-30% of the games aren’t televised because of the 3pm rule makes the consumer feel ripped off. The only way we can watch the 3pm games is to stream them

  • @tevildo45
    @tevildo4511 ай бұрын

    That’s fair enough Simon, let players take less money but don’t you dare ever increase ticket prices, i want clubs to stop fleecing fans on jerseys and merchandise as well etc; what’s good for the goose

  • @Killerkwoi13

    @Killerkwoi13

    11 ай бұрын

    The reason the clubs are fleecing you is because players agents and managers are fleecing the clubs with ludicrous salaries

  • @roddiej

    @roddiej

    11 ай бұрын

    This sis a hen and chicken story!

  • @russellward4624

    @russellward4624

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@Killerkwoi13 this is BS. The TV revenue doubled in 2013. Remind me, how much did they lower ticket prices and shirts? The answer is zero. They continued to raise prices because all they care about is profits. Players wages don't set the market. The TV deal does. When they TV revenue goes up 50% then so does player wages. That's how it should be. If the chairman stopped price gouging every year player salaries wouldn't increase.

  • @Killerkwoi13

    @Killerkwoi13

    11 ай бұрын

    @@russellward4624 why did the revenue magically double in 2013? did the TV companies just benevolently say we feel like offering more money for no apparent reason? or was it that the clubs and premier league demanded more money for the TV rights so as to plug the extortionate wage bill that had been spiralling out of control when Chelsea and Citeh destroyed the eco system of the game

  • @vincentkariuki4227

    @vincentkariuki4227

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@russellward4624 its funny people don't understand simple economics here,the epl got in a position where they leverages they popularity outside of the UK and I think they must've told sky and other domestic media partners that they can do without their money and that would have probably had sky sports loose alot of their subs so to rectify that sky figured they can do the same for their audience by passing on the cost for how much the overpaid by ...tv revenue is the one stream of revenue that most clubs are guaranteed and make the most of,if tv providers don't pay exorbitant money that means clubs would spend less within the FFP rules ...its not that hard to follow when their are FFP rules in place...they can only spend what they have and in some cases teams sell players to fund the payroll for the other remaining players

  • @user-gf1rx9rz8v
    @user-gf1rx9rz8v11 ай бұрын

    Owners like Man City can easily sell reasonably priced tickets but because of ffp they’re unable to do it. FFP has done more to raise season ticket prices than anything else.

  • @roddiej
    @roddiej11 ай бұрын

    I agree with Simon. Supporters have the option to choose the broadcast from their own club at much less than the big broadcasters

  • @donaldduck5553
    @donaldduck555311 ай бұрын

    Simon spot on, these player wages are out of control and have a massive toll down effect

  • @kaypakaipa8559

    @kaypakaipa8559

    11 ай бұрын

    Oh stop it, Simon is waffling again, players are paid by us, if we decide to not to pay the broadcaster will adjust, Wake up🤡

  • @donaldduck5553

    @donaldduck5553

    10 ай бұрын

    @@kaypakaipa8559what a load of nonsense! It’s called inflation, mainly due to clubs like PSG, Chelsea, Man City and now the Saudi league! We don’t pay them a thing, u wake up 🤡

  • @grassrootsfootball225
    @grassrootsfootball22511 ай бұрын

    Simon Jordans ignorance never ceases to amaze me

  • @JRK2669

    @JRK2669

    11 ай бұрын

    He's right

  • @garybriers4986

    @garybriers4986

    11 ай бұрын

    He’s absolutely bang on. What are you talking about?

  • @soccerwagsgfo

    @soccerwagsgfo

    11 ай бұрын

    @@JRK2669 he's very wrong. In his small mind, sky sports can make as much money as they want, but players' salaries should be capped

  • @JRK2669

    @JRK2669

    11 ай бұрын

    @Police Showdown He constantly complains about Sky, its like the number one thing he does.

  • @alastairbrewster4274

    @alastairbrewster4274

    11 ай бұрын

    @Tom Stenson what are you not getting ?! The clubs chose to pay the wages in this never ending spiral , sky started it and the prem teams wanted to keep pace with Europe’s elite . The players are working class guys all from humble beginnings, this is anti working class BS from the arch capitalist , albeit a failed one , Simon Jordan. Failed club owner cos he made stupid decisions ! What’s not to get ?!

  • @simonfarrimond3664
    @simonfarrimond366411 ай бұрын

    the reason why 3pm kick offs where not allowed for live Tv was the fear of effecting attendances at the grounds but the vast amount of tv money each club gets overweighs that argument 10 fold.. However with the Efl agreeing a 1b deal with sky to show nearly 1000 live games over 5 season including the 3pms we will see how that effects the homes games going forward or weather away fans just do not bother stumping the nearly £200 just to travel match ticket food drink and sometimes accommodation just for 1 game or just stay at home and watch it on the box much cheaper I guess we will have to wait and see

  • @locosmiley2008
    @locosmiley200811 ай бұрын

    140 a month???? For TV watching??? They are out of their minds

  • @oscaranthony9652
    @oscaranthony965211 ай бұрын

    Simon's understanding of business around modern sports is as good as it gets. Football really need more people of such understanding!

  • @FreshAlchemy

    @FreshAlchemy

    11 ай бұрын

    Yeah it's so good that he bankrupted himself at Crystal Palace, and hasn't owned a club since. He will forever be known as a failed football club owner, yet he sits there telling everyone else how to run their business like he didn't fail. It's a joke. What a hypocrite. That is exactly why he suits this piss-poor radio station down to the ground.

  • @fredfredrickson5436

    @fredfredrickson5436

    11 ай бұрын

    Hang on, didn't he lose his fortune to the game? Don't confuse brains with bluster. 🤣

  • @russellharvey698

    @russellharvey698

    11 ай бұрын

    actually it is not hard to understand if you look at basic accounting / businesses. The expenses are way to high v revenue. simple as. Then you just look at historical numbers. amortization is simple too... straight line. transfers in the premier are overpriced too

  • @fredfredrickson5436

    @fredfredrickson5436

    11 ай бұрын

    @@russellharvey698 Reflecting on the Premier League as if it were a competitive business environment is a fundamental misapprehension; it shares far too many similarities with the broader economy for that to be the case. 🤣

  • @russellharvey698

    @russellharvey698

    11 ай бұрын

    @@fredfredrickson5436 if you run a business whereby the salaries account for 90% of expenses then it would fail quickly.. so football isnt similar. Duh

  • @iskk9037
    @iskk903711 ай бұрын

    Simon was right when he said the PL need a Netflix style service, cut out the broadcast middle man, give the product straight to the consumers

  • @kayjam6965
    @kayjam696511 ай бұрын

    Now you see that football doesnt have to be so expensive to watch...these guys shud be lawded as heros instead of going to prison.

  • @craigoliver8712

    @craigoliver8712

    11 ай бұрын

    If it was a banker fleecing people out of millions or billions they would receive probation

  • @siddhantmehta1591
    @siddhantmehta159111 ай бұрын

    Love Simon and his passion and honesty

  • @MW92.

    @MW92.

    11 ай бұрын

    Simon = top LAD proper clobber

  • @riddley39
    @riddley3911 ай бұрын

    What a brilliant character Carlton Palmer is! Legend!

  • @topgazza
    @topgazza11 ай бұрын

    I’ve long advocated a salary cap like in the US. Utter greed. Football has become unaffordable, despite the packed PL I do like Carlton Palmer

  • @colinburns9736
    @colinburns973611 ай бұрын

    I think Simon is actually correct. But not being heard. Or properly heard. He is a business guy and knows money because he has used his own in this very field. We should hear him.

  • @soccerwagsgfo
    @soccerwagsgfo11 ай бұрын

    Simon Jordan hates players

  • @JRK2669

    @JRK2669

    11 ай бұрын

    Good, they are greedy and entitled

  • @soccerwagsgfo

    @soccerwagsgfo

    11 ай бұрын

    @Tom Stenson. Why can't Sky take a pay cut, How much money does SKY MAKE FROM THE PREMIER LEAGUE EVERY YEAR FROM ADVERTISING, GAMBLING, AND SUBSCRIPTION FEES? Is there a cap on Sky's profits? Why do You only want the players to take a pay cut? Simon Jordan talks like a greedy employer who wants makes all the money and pays his employees peanuts

  • @motomoto8383

    @motomoto8383

    11 ай бұрын

    @@soccerwagsgfo a lot of the sky money goes into clubs. The clubs then put this money INTO PLAYERS TRANSFERS AND WAGES.

  • @bradd__
    @bradd__11 ай бұрын

    Simon Jordan is spitting the truth but they dont wana hear him 😂😂😂😂

  • @BirdLives7

    @BirdLives7

    11 ай бұрын

    Simon is targeting players like he always does..

  • @lfcspectre4335

    @lfcspectre4335

    11 ай бұрын

    Top Lad Proper Clobber ✊💯 Facts

  • @jamescox6868
    @jamescox686811 ай бұрын

    I have a big group of pals who don’t pay sky and BT a penny because of their outrageous prices. It’s just going to get worse and worse as the prices go up 👍

  • @TheMorrisMeister
    @TheMorrisMeister11 ай бұрын

    Its two part issue which are linked. 1. The availability of games, unless your top 6 your lucky to get one game a month. 2. Price of the subscription, which is linked to 1. I’m not paying £60+ pm for one game a month

  • @anwardaniels1394
    @anwardaniels139411 ай бұрын

    The biggest injection to player's salary are a few clubs owned by billionaires and foreign countries for purposes of global marketing etc, paying exorbitant prices for a few players which had a knock on effect on all players wages

  • @9to5life69
    @9to5life6911 ай бұрын

    I pay £50 a year to watch any sporting event I want. I refuse to pay cable prices it's rip off

  • @lewis4929
    @lewis492911 ай бұрын

    40 pound a ticket to sit in the best seats at a Theatre? What planet does Simon Jordan live on? More like 250 mate

  • @Kspat2
    @Kspat211 ай бұрын

    Wait you guys in the UK are really paying that much just to watch games? In the states we have Peacock/NBC Sports who stream every prem game for 4.99 a month. Paramount+ streams all European competition games for 4.99 as well.

  • @pauldocherty403
    @pauldocherty40311 ай бұрын

    Players are fleecing the fans , price of shirts , food , tickets and tv is all to pay the players

  • @tg007ful
    @tg007ful11 ай бұрын

    UK fans are most definately getting bent over the table...it's well known that across continental europe, via platforms like SportTV, Eleven, etc, there is no 3pm blackout on Premier League games and we pay a pitance by comparrison - also, you can use said subscription IN THE UK, legally as long as it's registered in a continental country, italy, spain, portugal etc

  • @paulc2007
    @paulc200711 ай бұрын

    Working a minimum wage job here full time, cost of living is going through the roof for me and as much as I enjoy watching football it’s simply out of my budget these days

  • @frankanyasi5602
    @frankanyasi560211 ай бұрын

    To watch Premier League here in finland cost 50e even when it's a foreign market. 40e to watch Champions League on another broadcaster.

  • @DeejayVillain
    @DeejayVillain11 ай бұрын

    I’ve lived in Thailand, Korea, Egypt, Norway… I’ve travelled to Cambodia, Norway, Bosnia, Malaysia, Vietnam and Laos (among other places)… In every one of those countries, I’ve been able to READILY watch my club play football on the television… Yet in Britain… Sky have the monopoly and swing the axe on which teams get shown… And not all teams get a fair shake of television time… Which means that not all teams get a fair slice of the television money pie…

  • @mrbroeders
    @mrbroeders11 ай бұрын

    The wages players earn is ridiculous. I remember Paddy Crerand at United telling me that when he played in the 60's the players earned roughly twice what the average person earned. What is it nowadays? 200x 300x?

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