Who Would Be King of Jerusalem Today coming at a later date....

@mikeoxsmal8022

3 жыл бұрын

It's me

@Eza_yuta

3 жыл бұрын

@@kaleahcollins4567 We wuz kangs

@dellAquin

3 жыл бұрын

Looking forward to this one. Quite a lot of contenders with quite some complicated genealogy.

@mikeoxsmal8022

3 жыл бұрын

@@dellAquin it's obviously me

@jgr7487

3 жыл бұрын

it might not be the Habsburgs

Mad respect for my boy Baldwin IV

@kumailshah7017

11 ай бұрын

His father of salaudin

@St0ic_p3rsp3ctives

10 ай бұрын

​@@kumailshah7017both were great men, how can we argue amogst each other and try to bring down the likes of them. Just think about it 700 years from now no one will even know you existed and you trying to diss Baldwin the 4th

@Stoppko

9 ай бұрын

The best king of Jerusalem

@SkinnerNoah

8 ай бұрын

For real. I'm neither Christian nor Muslim, but I think Saladin and Baldwin were among the greatest leaders of the middle ages, and I would've been content to live under the rule of either

@cack-monkey

Ай бұрын

overrated as fuck

15:35 "You failed to go on crusade. Excommunicated!" "Excommunicated people can't go on crusade. Double excommunicated!" "You probably saw this one coming, but...triple excommunicated!"

@pattable2443

3 жыл бұрын

real pope moment

@curtiswfranks

3 жыл бұрын

"Jesus Christ! What do you want from me?"

@Wolfeson28

3 жыл бұрын

@@curtiswfranks "Well, you'll never get to ask Him, because you're...wait for it...excommunicated!"

@Libero6

3 жыл бұрын

I genuinely felt bad for Frederick II, lol. Dude couldn't catch a break

@forickgrimaldus8301

2 жыл бұрын

This is likely a political move in the Popes part because it was a hot topic developing between the HRE and the Papacy called the Investiture controversy, in short its an argument on who had the real power over the other, either the Pope or the Emperor, this even blew up to a War between the Italian states where cities supported either the Pope or the Emperor.

Frederick II: "Well they can only excommunicate me once." Pope: "Let's see what technicalities we can play with here..."

@reesehendricksen1871

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly the Papacy really showed its zenith in filth and unchristian behavior during Frederick’s campaign. They constantly tried to have him killed, which led to Frederick (Who was Sicilian) allowing only Muslims in his royal guard. Partly because he didn’t care about people faith, and also they wouldn’t care about the ravings of some asinine Pope.

@VincenzoRutiglianoDiaz

3 жыл бұрын

The pope really did X X +4 UNO cards to Frederick

@etee08

3 жыл бұрын

Frederick II was such a cool guy....he even wrote a famose book "the art of hunting with hawks"

@KingofEuropa07

3 жыл бұрын

@@reesehendricksen1871 Frederick deserved his excommunications

@davidhoran7116

3 жыл бұрын

Reese Hendricksen Frederick “I like birds” the second

"He was murdered by assassins, THE assassins." Most epic line on KZread.

When I play Crusader Kings it's called "family circle"

@housesports000

3 жыл бұрын

haha nice _wait what_

@VincenzoRutiglianoDiaz

3 жыл бұрын

Contrary to Europe there were not many Christian nobility in the Levant.

@VincenzoRutiglianoDiaz

3 жыл бұрын

@Verry Ganteng They were all from Europe and sometimes married a muslim princess or something of that kind. Nowadays here isn´t anything like a ¨Native Jerusalemite¨ because all palestinians are mixed arab and jew and all israelis are mixed jew with European/Magreb. They all have right to live there and should learn to tolerate each other.

@mrXOwarrior

3 жыл бұрын

@Verry Ganteng Well all of them from Queen Melisandre down were all born in the Levant

@joshuapittman4663

3 жыл бұрын

@@VincenzoRutiglianoDiaz That isn’t realistic, the issue isn’t ethnic. It’s religious and since religion a huge ideology for many it’s hard to get past it. Look at Ireland, Ireland is split between two countries, The Republic of Ireland which is Catholic and Northern Ireland which is Protestant both of which have had conflict in the past 100 years due to their religious deference’s. Israel and Palestine are the same why, in 1948 Israel gained its sovereignty fought for the Temple Mount in Jerusalem and was and is Religiously Jewish, Palestine is/was Sunni Muslim and was also created in 1948 through the duel state treaty however they declared war on Israel do two both religious differences and territorial disputes. Israel had a war with Palestine, Egypt, and multiple other countries. Eventually there will likely be a Palestinian revolution and there will likely be both Palestinian and Israeli countries existing in the area in the future, both of which will likely have territorial disputes especially as the Jewish people continue their plans to destroy the Temple of the Rock and build the Third Temple of David on the Temple Mount.

I find it interesting that Jerusalem had more reigning queens than most monarchies have ever had. And it was only a kingdom for a couple hundred years.

@SRosenberg203

3 жыл бұрын

I mean, it was only cause the men kept dying, really.

@fabiansaah6482

3 жыл бұрын

Well, doughters could inherit the crown when there were no sons . They didn't look for a second cousin once removed, just to get a male heir.

@dave1927p

3 жыл бұрын

yes yes feminism rah rah rah...that was only done to piss off the surrounding enemy

@curtiswfranks

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a queendom to me.

@SplatterInker

3 жыл бұрын

It's largely due to the fact its a frontier society. With men dying more often in military conflict, women were often the reason men inherited any power or wealth at all. They lived long enough to build up money, land and political connections, they were the ones carrying institutional and family knowledge, so they were too valuable and powerful to be messed with or ignored. We're also dealing with a time period (at least during the 1st crusade) where primogeniture and salic law were very far from normal among European elites. Life was just too precarious, so in many areas family would leave equal inheritances to their sons or indeed all their children. Eventually monarchs realised this benefited the church (to which many of these children were sent) more than themselves (through a powerful lay elite), and changed inheritance laws.

That's not the Crusader Kings family tree. Not enough incest.

@eustache_dauger

3 жыл бұрын

Incestry is the purest of ancestry 😎

@Alin-ql6it

3 жыл бұрын

habsburg feelings

@locutusest

3 жыл бұрын

@@Alin-ql6it Ohh yes the Habsburgs, perfect role models! Makes you feel like marrying your niece or something...

@forickgrimaldus8301

2 жыл бұрын

@@locutusest gotta have me that perfect chin and those awesome Hereditary diseases only True Royal Chads can have.

@jamellfoster6029

2 жыл бұрын

@@forickgrimaldus8301 LMBO

Baldwin IV is one of the badass crusades kings in my opinion in my opinion

@andyreginald6272

2 жыл бұрын

YES

@feduntu

Жыл бұрын

actually they were all badass in their own way... literally one strong bloodline here

Actually the titel "King of Jerusalem" is hold by five people until today: Franz, Duke of Bavaria Pedro, Duke of Calabria Karl Habsburg-Lorraine Felipe VI. King of Spain the 17th baron of Baccari (i dont know the name)

@jgr7487

3 жыл бұрын

the King of Italy (House of Savoy) also claims the title

@robins.1919

3 жыл бұрын

@@jacobhutchins2029 yes, and these get their claim through the house if Savoy

@michaelweiske702

3 жыл бұрын

I would propose Zera Yacob as a possible successor, not for his relation with these kings, but for his relationship with Solomon, the once King of Zion/Israel.

@hieratics

3 жыл бұрын

@Alexandru Bogdan Stirbu i dont think so..

@myohmy9000

3 жыл бұрын

Michael Weiske that’s an interesting proposal. It would make sense if there was to be a “Kingdom of Judah” somehow revived, and it would be fitting since the Ethiopian royal family is the only family to claim descent from Solomon. But, since he is head of the Ethiopian line, maybe another choice could be Prince Ermias so Zera wouldn’t have to give up his royal titles?

me: crusader kings looks so fun I wanna try it out also me: I have absolutely no idea whats going on

@brentanthuenis9875

3 жыл бұрын

just play as a lord in ireland, it's a good way to start slow and learn everything at your own pace

@Brams2777

3 жыл бұрын

That's part of the fun

@TacticusPrime

3 жыл бұрын

I really don't think Crusader Kings 3 is that complicated. It's just a combination of other styles of games. It's a mini-RPG with your main character and kind of a visual novel with its events. It's a fairly straight forward 4X game when it comes to kingdom management, not so different from Civ. Ultimately it's about telling the story of an extended family of power people, how they work together and betray each other.

@legogandalf5453

3 жыл бұрын

Just play as like Poland or something.

@petemagnuson7357

3 жыл бұрын

The in-game tutorial is pretty good if you haven't tried it yet. You get a slightly easier start in Ireland and can keep playing after the tutorial finishes.

15:40 the reason why he was repeatedly excommunicated by the pope was because of embroilments in Italy, where Frederick was trying to unite Sicily with Germany (which translated into the Guelphs and Ghibellines conflict in northern Italy) threatening the papal domains. The life’s story and character of Frederick II are astonishing for his time, I would even dare to say he kickstarted the Renaissance.

Great video Matt. It’s always incredible how much history you can learn from your family tree. Also Philip II Augustus is a fascinating guy. First King of France! Before the French kings were King of the Franks, not King of France.

@Zach-mw5so

3 жыл бұрын

It’s a shame Philip II of France doesn’t get as much attention as Richard the Lionheart. Philip was more chivalrous and more the stereotypical “knight” than Richard was.

@marshalljohnson7690

3 жыл бұрын

Merovingian descendants have the best claim since the Donation of Constantine

@skiteufr

3 жыл бұрын

There is no difference between the King of the Franks and King of France. Same people of the same family, ruling the same kingdom and people. Only the name changed. They refered to ruling a territory rather than a people. But the title of Francorum Rex was used by French kings until the revolution

@SRosenberg203

3 жыл бұрын

@@Zach-mw5so Is that a joke? Philip Augustus was a great King for the French, possibly one of the best they ever had, but he was neither knightly nor chivalrous. Every time he was confronted head-on by Richard, he ran away with his tail between his legs. What's chivalrous about attacking the lands of an sanctified Crusader (whose lands are supposed to be inviolate while he is on crusade) because you know he's in prison and can't do anything about it?

@SRosenberg203

3 жыл бұрын

@@skiteufr There actually is a difference, because it marks the development of kingdoms into nation-states. Even if the differences in practice aren't much, there's a big ideological and symbolic difference between being King of the Frankish People, and being King of the Land Area called 'France'.

Fun fact: Despite regaining Jerusalem Frederick II was criticized among christians for not achieving enough and crussading while being excommunicated. He is in general an interesting figure. Very tolerant and progressive for his time. He deserves much more credit than he gets

@bumblebeeeoptimus

3 жыл бұрын

He is.. no doubt the most unfaily treated kings of the middle ages..

@forickgrimaldus8301

2 жыл бұрын

I mean his name Fred just sounds like the beat up comic relief character in a cartoon.

@DaDARKPass

Жыл бұрын

He was that last king that tried to save everything, but everything ended up crashing down after he died.

@ezzovonachalm9815

Жыл бұрын

BW Friedrich II was dubbed STUPOR MUNDI. He also was recognized as one if not The One of the greatest Emperors of the HRE.

This was genuinely really informative, I knew almost nothing about the Crusader states, so this is really great to learn about

It's frustrating how close Richard came to capturing Jerusalem before turning back. SO close...

How is it that despite this video being directly linked to the Crusader kings that this is the one that isn't sponsored by CK3

@WombatSteve

3 жыл бұрын

Because Paradox decided to not give him money

@gumbyshrimp2606

3 жыл бұрын

None of these historical figures are in crusader kings 3

@karlwittenburg5868

3 жыл бұрын

Gumby Shrimp I mean technically all of the figures he talked about for the 1st crusade are alive in the 1066 start date

@derniercaesar5319

3 жыл бұрын

@@gumbyshrimp2606 wait I can't play with Baldwin IV?

@o-o2399

3 жыл бұрын

@@derniercaesar5319 in ck2 you can but not in ck3 need mods for that

From a ck2 player, this is a great way to sneak in on that algorithm. I'm glad I got to be entertained by something I can also kinda learn from. It'd be cool to see your sources in the description, even if it's just some wikipedia pages.

OMG i'm so thankful for this, love this channel and love crusader kings :)

this chart explains SO much that could never make sense without it. Thanks for your content.

Baldwin IV is the one portrayed in Kingdom of Heaven.

@kacehutch84

3 жыл бұрын

The person portrayed by Eva Green was the sister-in-law of an ancestor of mine.

Never clicked a video faster! Great topic!

My profile picture has been of Fulk for years. I always forget though. Was very odd to see my pfp in a video by one of my favorite creators!

damn, only my boy Baldwin IV managed to rule so greatly and magnificently AND with leprosy which caused him to go blind in his later years

Could you do a video explaining the family trees of the Shoguns of Japan from the Minamoto, Ashikaga and Tokugawa Clans including who is most likely to be Shogun if Japan were to restore its Shogunate

@UsefulCharts

3 жыл бұрын

maybe........

I'm pretty sure Godfrey of Bouillon was from Lorraine, not southern France. Raymond of Toulouse was from the South, obviously, but Bouillon is not. Also, Richard "and Phillip" didn't capture a few cities along the coast. They captured one, Acre, and then Phillip went home to France so that he could attack Richard's lands in Normandy and Aquitaine while Richard was still in the Holy Land, taking those other coastal cities you were talking about (Jaffa, Ascalon, etc.).

@SRosenberg203

3 жыл бұрын

@@fluffytom82 Oh you're right, I see. He became a Duke of Lorraine in his early 20s, and I misunderstood that to mean that his original "Lordship of Bouillon" was located in Lorraine rather than Boulogne. But either way, he's not from Southern France.

Actually Tripoli was conquered after Jerusalem, and the first Crusader State was Edessa. And Godfrey was not from southern France at all, he was from Northwest (Boulogne) and later got Northeast (Lower Lorraine).

@Zach-mw5so

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, both Prince Hugh and Godfrey were from northern France. A lot of the preaching for the crusade happened in the north, because that’s where a lot of the descendants of the warlike Franks lived. In the South the Occitans lived. Raymond was enthusiastic enough but not as much as the North.

@rachelsombo9045

3 жыл бұрын

Zach north/south of France that is the same people , the southern french are just a mix Franks and occitans,basques,gascons ... And I am French and trust me the southern french are stronger than the northern one 😉

@Zach-mw5so

3 жыл бұрын

Rachel Sombo If I ever insinuated the southern French to be any weaker than the northern, I apologize :p

@miracleyang3048

Жыл бұрын

@@Zach-mw5so Ironic how the pope intended for the southern to lead the crusade

This would make an interesting chart, perhaps reworked a little with some added info especially for the important crusades. I would buy. Great video!

Lol Fulk's portrait is him going "Oh fulk".

Please do Hatfields and McCoys family tree explaining the developments of their famous Feud.

@pedanticradiator1491

3 жыл бұрын

Only famous in America I think

Oh, I've been asking for something like this for so long! Thank you so much! Please, who would be King of Jerusalem today?!

@mrXOwarrior

3 жыл бұрын

My money is on the descendants of the last King of Italy having the strongest claim, if such a thing existed. The nation of Israel, Palestine and many others would probably get in the way.

Excellent breakdown . Awesome job .

OMG I never imagined you and Crusader Kings together

Thank you for showing that im really interested in these things

The only legitimate one who literally has the original title that he inherited from the Catholic kings is today Felipe VI of Spain and Greece.

Crusader Kings! Yay! Right in time!

@olivercoles4249

3 жыл бұрын

yes yeah right

@foxfoster1

3 жыл бұрын

Why is it right in time in confused

@blankspace998

3 жыл бұрын

@@foxfoster1 read the description

@foxfoster1

3 жыл бұрын

@@blankspace998 Oh ok. I like that game too I should have known

This guy knows how to title a video to catch all the YT traffic from the new Crusader Kings game

Live your video. But can you do a video about the Dacian Kingdom?

Thanks for this, I think I requested this one :-)

They should used primogeniture instead of seniority.

@SplatterInker

3 жыл бұрын

Probably wouldn't have helped much, they'd have lost the power built up by the women who were already embedded politically in the society to import men who were many many miles away (e.g. Melisende's next male kin would've been from France of whatever with no clue about the local political situation, just like her husband. At least by placing her as co ruler her husband had access to the authority and knowledge SHE had built up among the locals.) Also, they'd have been more prone to dying in war, so there'd have been a higher turn over.

@njb1126

2 жыл бұрын

What about gavelkind?

@wokeuplikethis7729

2 жыл бұрын

@@njb1126 fucking gavelkind, the succession law that brings down empires

As a direct descendent of half the folks in this chart, I appreciate this! 🥰

@asherasmodeus

10 ай бұрын

I'm a descendant of Hugh I, King of Cyprus

@Otaku155

10 ай бұрын

@@asherasmodeus Then you are probably a descendant of Charlemagne as well.

@asherasmodeus

10 ай бұрын

@@Otaku155 I am. I have my family tree dating back to pre-roman times as well.

@tobiasalvr2643

9 ай бұрын

@@asherasmodeus thats actually really cool. Do you have every single generations leading down to you recorded?

@Justwatching746

7 ай бұрын

Hey, then we are related. I am a descendant of all the royal families. My 28th great grandfather was Fulk King of Jerusalem.

Speaking of the Templars (hehe I knew you'd do that), can y'all do the AC tree? With all the characters and their connections (the 3D main games, not 2D ones)

*Jerusalem exists* : French nobles : hippity hoppity you’re now my property

@forickgrimaldus8301

2 жыл бұрын

I mean you could say the Same to Rome (both Ancient and Byzantine), the Abbasids, the Ayyubids(Arabs), Mamluks (predominantly Cumans,Circassians, Abkhazians, Oghus Turks and Georgians) and Ottomans (Turks). (as all of them are foreign Empires and Kingdoms.)

@forickgrimaldus8301

2 жыл бұрын

The Ancient Egyptians, the Hittites, Alexander..... Point is a ton of Empires had a hand print in the Lavant.

Correction though. Godfrey of Bouillion was from the modern day Wallonia (French speaking Belgium), Bouillon is a city today the frontier of Belgium and France. :)

@tankiwolf

3 жыл бұрын

Jep ive been there many times. There is also a beautifull medieval castle on a hill. It might be build by him idk.

I guess I’m related to fulk too, it’s amazing how you have family trees that include my ancestors. I like learning about this stuff, thank you and keep it up 👍🏻

2:40 Godfrey de Bouillon didn't represent southern France with Raymond: he was Duke of Bouillon, which is in present-day Belgium. He led the crusade's, north-eastern French, Flemish, Frisian and German contingents.

Godfrey represented Boulougne dynasty as the Duke of Lower Lorraine and the Lord of Bouillon which is where he gets his name Godfrey of Bouillon. He was a vassal of the HRE and his realm was in the NE border of France and Germany, which usually was under the Duchy of Flanders and is where Belgium and the Netherlands are now. So he did not represent Southern France as you claimed. Southern France or rather Toulouse was Occitan too at the time and was very loosely under the French crown.

Crusader Kings: Family Circle Me (an Asian): Literally 90% of my family have the same surname (maiden included) o_O

You have a mistake. At 7:37 Damascus was mentioned as the new crusaders' goal, but the picture shows Damascus gate, which is actually in Jerusalem, and did not exist anyway in the 12th century as the current city wall, which the Damascus gate is part of, was built by the Ottomans in the 16th century

Another good chart!

Great video as usual! Could y'all watch The 100 S1-S7 and do something with that? ☺

I feel that Robert of Flanders, along with Robert of Normandy and Steven of Blois together should also be considered a principal crusading force, their armies were probably to most loyal to the Byzantines, and agreed to the oaths they promised to Alexios

What software do you use for the family tree and maps. It’s so cool!

Great Video!

Man, i am surprised no factions plotted against them and usurped the throne like every single game in ck2 i play.

@legogandalf5453

3 жыл бұрын

I'm surprised there was no accidental incest like every time I play ck2

I’ve been watching a lot of the British Royal Family videos and so funny enough, the one part that blew my mind was how Geoffrey Plantagenet was (through marriage) related to the Kings/Queens of Jerusalem lol

@godfathergtg

3 жыл бұрын

Thats incorrect. Actually Geoffrey Plantagenet was related to the Kings of Jerusalem by blood. King Baldwin III and Amalric I were his half-brothers. his father Fulk was King of Jerusalem in his own right unlike Guy de Lusignan who was only King in right of his wife, Sybilla. Sybilla, Baldwin IV and Isabella were Geoffrey's nieces and Henry II's cousins and Richard the Lionheart's aunts and uncle.

@baronvg

3 жыл бұрын

@@godfathergtg I was just going by what I saw in the video. You have a correction, send it Matt’s way, too.

@godfathergtg

3 жыл бұрын

@@baronvg did so

@ANGELSVEN

2 жыл бұрын

Baldwin IV The Leper King was Henry II Plantagenet's great grandfather. Cool.

Great content 👍👏👏

Could you do a useful chart of the evolution of beer and other alcohol?? :)

Fulk V, Count of Anjou, King of Jerusalem is my 27th great grandfather and he also fought as a knight templar in 1119 or 1120 in the crusades and King Henry the 2nd is my 25th great grandfather

@ANGELSVEN

2 жыл бұрын

He's my 26th great grandfather and Henry II is my 24th great grandfather. That makes us related! :D lol

Txs. Great channel. Try Alfred Duggan author 'Count Bohemond' and his other short fiction novels.

To think that all those People's Crusade participant could be settlers for the newly established Kingdom of Jerusalem, providing the Kingdom with native French population and manpower right within the Kingdom's Border (instead of having to import Knights and Nobility from Europe), it's just such a waste potential that the First Crusade is not well managed. Eventually the lack of manpower is the cause of Jerusalem's failiure.

@Rickuo

3 жыл бұрын

The conniving of the French king (murdering the sons and grandson of Frederick II.) in camaraderie with the Pope and Venice brought an end to Jerusalem.

@AlexS-oj8qf

2 ай бұрын

@@Rickuo That's much later on. I'm saying that if the Crusaders were able to establish numerous loyal French population it might be able to establish a stable and settled Kingdom instead of just the few ruling Franks holding Castles and rule lands over foreign subjects. This is how the Muslims expands, by dispossessing people who are not Arabs (and later Turks) and settle the land themselves.

Thanks!

For some reason I just found this. Thank you. I, too, am related to King Fulk.

I loved the video and I really think you should create multiple subsets of the channel (in same channel) I.E fantasy(Movies, Books, Games T.V), history, theory/theoretical, Mythology/religion or even education based videos I.E the Kamala Harris or king pope videos. For reference the YT channel "Jon Solo"

Thank you, l now understand the multiple crusades...

can you make a video on the Mohamed Ali dynasty of Egypt?

Could you make a video about who would be the living person with the best claim to the Kingdom of Jerusalem?

@mrXOwarrior

3 жыл бұрын

Most likely the person with the strongest claim to the Crusader State of Jerusalem would be connected to the Kings of Cyprus and thus either the House of Savoy (Kings of Italy) or the House of Brienne (kings of France).

@graceneilitz7661

2 ай бұрын

@@mrXOwarrior The historically correct answer is the person who can march an army to Jerusalem and get the people to proclaim him king. Other than that, the King of Spain claims the title, and as he is the only existing monarch to claim it, he has the biggest claim. Though, I will point out that the Kings of Jordan have claimed to be the protector of the holy sights of Jerusalem, and they even claimed Jerusalem as a second capital after annexing the West Bank (So yeah, if you think Jordan supported/ supports Palestinian independence look at history) in 1950. So perhaps, the Kings of Jordan have a better claim. I don’t really accept blood claims as the only reason why someone has the best claim to a throne abolished centuries ago. I think the person with the best claim is a current monarch, who claims the title, and has some sort of history with the area.

I my CKII PlayThrough I managed to Conquer Europe through the first 3 crusades as Baldwin the Leper So thank you for showing me his History

My 24th great grandfather was Baldwin I, Latin Emperor, Caesar of Constantinople

Jack's back. 😀

Could you do a video on Welsh princes?

@aurynlalor1366

3 жыл бұрын

That sounds good!

In my crusader kings 2 save. It was the king of France. The emperor of Mali, Maghreb, Francia, And a couple other empires. He was also the pope.

Conrad II of Jerusalem was the only surviving child of Isabella II so his siblings had no claim at all to the Kingdom of Jerusalem, but look at the Brienne claim, because that could be interesting.

@mrXOwarrior

3 жыл бұрын

Brienne line is actually the senior line after Conrad II/Conradin die and the Lusignan First House dies out. But the Poitiers-Lusignan took over.

You could have included how the Italian Royal House and the Spanish Royal House claim the title of King of Jerusalem Through the Principality of Antioch and the Kingdom of Sicily.

@Zach-mw5so

3 жыл бұрын

I think he’s going to do a “claims” video in the near future. Tracing the lines of the current claimants as far back as possible.

@VincenzoRutiglianoDiaz

3 жыл бұрын

@@Zach-mw5so for this or for all claims of everything?

@Zach-mw5so

3 жыл бұрын

Vincenzo Rutigliano Díaz Any modern descendant of royalty who claims the title, I think

@mrXOwarrior

3 жыл бұрын

Italian House (Savoy) is more legitimate. The family that claim Jerusalem on Cyprus continued in Italy/France and became the kings of Italy. The Spanish claim comes from Charles Anjou who bought his claim from someone who had a weaker claim and never ruled.

How can Godfrey of Bouillon represent Southern France?? When he lived in Northern France (today we call it Belgium). His castle is still in Bouillon, you can visit it.

Such a beautiful intro !!....can anyone tell me the name of that song (music)?

@UsefulCharts

3 жыл бұрын

It's in the description.

there was kings of cyprus? oh shoot there is like 19 of em, this would work as a vid

@mrXOwarrior

3 жыл бұрын

Since they would be technically the titular kings of Jerusalem I think it would be interesting to see as well.

Lol. When I saw crusader kings, I knew it would tag the game.

The Templar Knights were French, and they are responsible for the first crusades. I learn that not a while ago.

Many of the notables lists are great great grandfathers of mine.

Fulk V was my great grandfather. Amalric, Baldwin III and Richard the Lionheart are my grand uncles. Baldwin IV, the bad ass Leper King, is my 1st cousin.

Interesting, but why is there no mention of King Sigurd I of Norway. He was the first European king to lead a major crusade to the Holy Land?

Imagine if he played a game of CK2 and then made a video about it. He could give his own story on the family tree and all that.

I’ve been studying the Crusades for a decade and a half and I had no idea the Plantangents were related to the rulers of Jerusalem!

@SRosenberg203

3 жыл бұрын

They offered Henry II the Crown of Jerusalem in the 1180s, before it was taken by Saladin. He declined, probably because he didn't give a fuck about Jerusalem, but the excuse he gave was that he wouldn't be able to fulfil his oaths as King of England, if he also accepted the crown of Jerusalem.

@mrXOwarrior

3 жыл бұрын

@@SRosenberg203 That claim would be pretty weak. Fulk who is the one that connected the families was Baldwin IV's grandfather and he still had living sisters with (eventually) children.

@SRosenberg203

3 жыл бұрын

@@mrXOwarrior It was less about his claim and more about the fact that he was a wealthy badass who might have been able to adequately defend the Kingdom if he assumed the Throne. When I say "they" I was referring to the Archbishop of Tyre, and several leading barons sworn to the King of Jerusalem.

@ANGELSVEN

2 жыл бұрын

Me, neither! And I've been studying them for a long time, too!

11:03 - Widower*

2:40 How can Godfrey represent Southern France when Boullion lies north of Paris?

@draftyart8842

3 жыл бұрын

yes he is from the actual Belgium lol

@birgitmelchior8248

3 жыл бұрын

Bouillon lies in modern day Belgium. I don't understand either why he represented southern France

The "History of the Crusades" podcast is awesome if anyone wants to go deeper into the Crusades stories.

@chombus2602

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the recommendation

@spizzlo

3 жыл бұрын

@@chombus2602 NP. She started it a long time ago, so the early episodes aren't the pinnacle of sound quality, but I only remember that I enjoyed them either way.

@mrXOwarrior

3 жыл бұрын

100% this, thats a great great podcast. Highly recommended.

So who would be the King of Jerusalem today?

I only come here to see Baldwin IV clear history ❤❤

these lineage videos always remind me that there were like 5 total families that did literally anything in this era of europe and everyone that matters was one of the 5

What, you didn't to a 'Who would be king..."? There's so many claimants. It's fascinating.

@mrXOwarrior

3 жыл бұрын

Hopefully they will make a video of it soon.

My husband is a direct decend of Folk, Geoffrey, King Henry II of England and so on.

16:42 I seem to recall that Conrad (or as he was called, “Conrad*in*”) was beheaded by order of Charles of Anjou, whom the Pope had made King of Sicily. Ironic then that Charles and his heirs would end up with a claim to the Kingdom of Jerusalem, seeing as he’d killed its last *undisputed* king.

@mrXOwarrior

3 жыл бұрын

His claim was from buying the rights from Conrad's cousin, who the Court of Jerusalem rejected in favor of the Lusignan claim. But had he killed Conradin for those rights would be more impactful. But he didn't. He wanted Sicily/Naples.

@kristophershepard2563

3 жыл бұрын

mrXOwarrior Maria of Antioch, whose claim was via proximity of blood. Another of life’s little ironies: she herself was a Lusignan on her mother’s side. Also interesting is that the line of Hugh of Brienne (who was arguably senior to the Lusignans but was denied by the Haute Court) ended up serving as Charles’s vassals and even ended up marrying into the Neapolitan Royal Family a couple times. In fact, the current Brienne heir, Prince Charles-Antoine Lamoral de Ligne de La Trémoille, has a claim the Neapolitan throne via descent from King Frederick of Naples (Frederick’s brother, King Alfonso II, had inherited the Brienne claim from his mother while his father still sat the throne, but Alfonso’s bloodline failed on the death of King Jan II Kazimierz Vasa), as well as a claim to the Cypriot throne from Frederick’s father-in-law, the Duke of Savoy.

How about a video on Kings from Tonga? Tonga is the only country in Oceania to have their own monarchy instead of Queen Elizabeth II ruling as head of state.

@Dave_Sisson

3 жыл бұрын

Well Hawaii was a kingdom too, but the Americans staged a coup and annexed it. :-(

@graceneilitz7661

2 ай бұрын

@@Dave_Sisson Hawaii wasn’t going to survive the early 1900s without (at minimum) becoming a protectorate of a powerful country.

@Dave_Sisson

2 ай бұрын

@@graceneilitz7661 You are probably right, that is why they put the British flag in a corner of their own flag. The British were known to respect the sovereignty of states in places like the Persian Gulf that voluntarily became protectorates. They never interfered in domestic affairs, just the designated areas of military and foreign relations. But what the USA did to Hawaii was outright annexation and suppression of national identity.

@graceneilitz7661

2 ай бұрын

@@Dave_Sisson Uhhhh……. Disliking the US annexation of Hawaii is one thing, promoting the British as a bastion of sovereignty is quite another. The British empire would influence domestic affairs if it saw fit. You don’t gain actual & defacto control over 1/4 of the world by respecting sovereignty.

I just learned am descent of a Crusader. The more I dig into it the more mysteries thing come out. Quiet a complex subjectz

The gate shown at 7:38 is the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem, not a gate of Damascus in Damascus :D

@UsefulCharts

3 жыл бұрын

Oops

Am I the only one to notice the magnifier next to Conrad II on the chart

I immediately thought of ck2/ck3😂

It’s interest that the actual line of rulers are all descended from Baldwin II. There’s only a loose, cousin connection to Godfrey and Baldwin I, neither had any children.

10:40 Richard and Philip? The France king back to the Europe immediately right after he land on "the Holy Land".

@Epicrandomness1111

3 жыл бұрын

Tbf he did help with Acre, but the 3rd crusade is really Richard's crusade.

@Itachi951000

3 жыл бұрын

He returned to France after Acre surrender to him and gave him the key to deal with internal French problems. He was there until that... Richard then led the crusade after that.