To sum up my experience removing the stock DP and cat from my speed 6... “so anyways I started blasting”

@FiveFiveGarage

4 жыл бұрын

It was seriously one of the most frustrating pieces I have ever removed from a car.

This goes into the perfect amount of detail. Thank you for sharing your installation process and knowledge!

This guy deserves way more subs. Both the quality of the vids and the content is top notch👌

Thanks for all of the Mazdaspeed videos you put out man. I like your format and the chill background music. I currently am installing a Corksport replacement turbo on my '09. I'm the original owner, car has 86,000 miles, and i haven't driven it in 3 years cause it smokes so bad and I refuse to let the car go haha. I'm also doing all of the supporting mods (fuel pump internals, TMIC, downpipe, intake, bov and catch can) so your videos have been a great resource of info. Also, your video on the valve cleaning motivated me to rip off my manifold and get those valves cleaned (doing it this weekend) before I get it fired up and tuned with the new turbo. Keep up the videos, you definitely deserve more subs and views!

@FiveFiveGarage

6 жыл бұрын

Good stuff! Let me know when you have your car back on the road again!

@anonguy6453

5 жыл бұрын

I'm sure you probably know and I'm hella late but make sure you have fuel pump internals upgraded before any upgraded turbo/downpipe mods.

working my shop, I’ve found that if you have an axle nut socket set, pulling the axle out a bit makes moving the heat shield and pulling the down pipe out much easier. It may be a bit of extra work but it pays for itself

Good see you back bra!!!

Great video and detail

Very nice, I just installed the Damond Motorsports Oil Catch Can last night. Saving up for the same downpipe and their catback exhaust next! Best exhaust notes I've heard for the speed3 imo.

@FiveFiveGarage

6 жыл бұрын

The catback is definitely on the list, my bank account needs to recover a little first!

Just installed their catless version and your video helped out a lot man, thank you.

@FiveFiveGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Good to hear it helped! Getting that OEM downpipe out is still the hardest job I have done on this car!

OH man Randy! great vid, Glad you showed people how to tune. I have seen so many MS3 issues where people just install a down pipe and not tune. Slap on a FMIC and hang on !!

@FiveFiveGarage

5 жыл бұрын

FMIC is coming. I have done some rudimentary measurements and looking for a core that will fit without too much modification. Trying to do this as hassle free as I can, and hopefully save some $$$. After I get the FMIC, it's tune time!

@Chad_D

5 жыл бұрын

@@FiveFiveGarage I cheaped out on my fmic with cxracing. It's good for 300hp. Anything more go treadstone. I now run the tr8. Worth every penny. I think most will require a new crashbar or some type of modifications. Can't wait till you put one on and return. It a big improvement

@FiveFiveGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Treadstone is currently on the top of my list for a core. I just learned today that there is a dyno not far from where I live, so hopefully I can get the last of my parts and do some runs pre-tune with the top mount and post tune with the front mount and results. And hopefully a production budget, dyno time is PRICEY!

I finally installed a downpipe and it made a BIG improvement!

@mattwood9678

5 жыл бұрын

Did you end up putting the heat shields back on with the new downpipe? Any video I watch, nobody does and im curious if its cuz its not needed or they just chose not to.

@FiveFiveGarage

5 жыл бұрын

The heat shields that go on the firewall, I reused. The shields on the downpipe? No. Reason why nobody reuses them is that the aftermarket downpipes don't have the mounting bosses on them like the stock downpipe. Even if we wanted to reuse them, no way to attach them. I am working on fabbing up a heat shield that will attach at the firewall so I can sort of block that area off. Most end up using a heat resistant wrap to keep the temps down. I am thinking about wrapping mine, but that won't be for awhile.

@Jaywheeezy1986

5 жыл бұрын

Five Five Garage how did you get the bottom nut off the down pipe? What tools did you use and how did you approach it? I can’t get that damn thing off because of angle etc.

@FiveFiveGarage

5 жыл бұрын

@@Jaywheeezy1986 I think I had to use an open end wrench and a ratcheting box end wrench. There isn't room there for anything else, socket wont fit. You can try getting at it from the bottom, I remember that took a bit of time to get out. Thankfully the stud came out with the nut so it made installing it a little easier.

Yo Randy. Big fan! Just wondering if you've made a video of your recommendations for what you should do as far as performance mods preferably in order tor the Mazdaspeed 3 and 6 engine. Thanks in advance!

@FiveFiveGarage

6 жыл бұрын

I haven't yet, although it is one of the things I get asked most about.

Great stuff! Do you remember if you used a gasket when linking the downpipe to the catback?

@FiveFiveGarage

2 жыл бұрын

If I remember correctly, the CP-e downpipe is made where you dont need to use a gasket. I don't remember using one.

I'm looking to get myself a catless downpipe from CP-E, i have a catted one right now.

Did you use a donut gasket to connect to your cat back? If you did was it the stock one and how did it fit?

@FiveFiveGarage

6 жыл бұрын

I reused the stock one and it fit ok without issue.

I'm new with aftermarket exhaust. I just have a question! Well, I have my speed 3 stock, but I just want to have that amazing sounds the cpe gives to it. However, I din't want to modify further than that. So, is it bad to install the cpe just to have the great sound? Thanks in advance!

@FiveFiveGarage

2 жыл бұрын

You will need supporting mods to add a downpipe. Just adding it alone opens a Pandora's box of issues that can cause serious damage to the engine. Removing the restrictive stock downpipe increases the air flow escaping the engine and you can get into over-boost situations. Or you flow more air than the stock map can handle and its trying to dump fuel but you max out the stock HPFP and go lean, ZZB. If you want more sound, I would suggest a test pipe/race pipe and maybe a different cat-back.

Fellow Chicagoan - Will your speed pass emissions with that downpipe? I'm aware of it being with a cat.. I'm looking to do the same thing to my 07 speed but i daily it.

@FiveFiveGarage

6 жыл бұрын

Where I live I don't have to do emissions testing. I am going to guess and say probably not. Keep the stock setup for when you need to get tested and swap it back.

Does this exhaust pass emissions? I’m looking for a down pipe for my car

@FiveFiveGarage

3 жыл бұрын

I haven't had any issues with any of my 02 sensors not being in the "ready" state so I have no CEL's. If it is just a sniffer test and you are tuned it "should" pass. If it is also a visual test, it will not pass.

@18:54 did you use the stock exhaust flange bolts?

@FiveFiveGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. Mine weren't too bad. The ones that did come out, I cleaned the threads and used Resbond when I put them back in. They haven't backed out since. You can buy replacements from Edge Autosport for like $3 or $4.

Ok, odd question... Did you reuse the donut gasket to the cat back ? Or did you use something else ?

@FiveFiveGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Didn't use the donut, the end of the downpipe is made in a way that you can't use it. It hasn't leaked and its going on years now since I did this.

at 1:36 you have a fender blanket on your car. Which blanket is this? I need something like it. Thanks for the video and peace of mind. I have this exact downpipe for my Gen1 and I'm also upgrading the turbo at the same time to get it all out of the way. All of my heat shield bolts were rusted and ended up rounding off so I had to cut them off with a Dremel. It has been a job for sure.

@FiveFiveGarage

3 жыл бұрын

It just a moving blanket, I got from harbor freight. It works great because I can spread it out when working over the front. This project was one of the most frustrating to do on this car, I should have used the unedited video of gettting the downpipe out but the language I used isn't family friendly 😆

@LJ_AF

3 жыл бұрын

Five Five Garage thanks! Haha. I’d almost pay to see that video. I probably said some of the same words myself. I’m doing mine solo as well. Getting read to pull the turbo this week. Waiting for my BNR S4 v3 to arrive.

Does the accessport have a tune to run the high flow down pipe

@FiveFiveGarage

5 жыл бұрын

You will have to either download OTS tunes from Cobb or Corksport. But I highly recommend that if you install a down pipe to get a tune and not run an OTS. Freektune, Purple Drank, Stratified, Nishan, any of them will give you better performance than the OTS tunes.

Why didn't you install back the heat shield ? What if something like a line would get tooo hot and melts. Just wondering. Great work on the install , well played.

@FiveFiveGarage

6 жыл бұрын

Some of the factory heat shields don't have a place to bolt to. I do have something I am going to add.

@BrownyTheGamer

6 жыл бұрын

MikeyandS2 I installed a catless downpipe and big turbo with no heat sheilds and all of my cables are fine.

Currently dealing with an exhaust leak . Took car to muffler shop and they said that I had two flex pipes cracked . One from dowpipe and other right below it . I can smell it from the inside of my car and my downstream o2 sensor isn’t receiving enough voltage . Shop is charging 350 to remove dowpipe and then 200-300 to fix the two flex pipes . Now … should I simply invest in a new dowpipe and attempt to remove it myself with not alot of experience, or should I let the shop handle it . Need to fix the leaks for an upcoming tune 😵‍💫

@FiveFiveGarage

Жыл бұрын

A new downpipe (depends on what you get) could be more expensive than the repair. If you got the time and space I would get a new downpipe and not have to worry if the repairs are going to last.

Definitely get that etune! I use Will at pdtuning! Trust me. Those ots maps are garbage. I have had several tunes done to mine and will never go back!

@FiveFiveGarage

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah the OTS doesn't offer the huge bump I was expecting, I am definitely looking forward to getting tuned. Where I live I have easy access to e85, and I am really excited to see how the car will run with an e85 tune.

@gimmethecarkeys

6 жыл бұрын

Five Five Garage make sure you dont go full e85 you will have to run a blend on our cars. Looking forward to more content! Keep up the videos!

@FiveFiveGarage

6 жыл бұрын

I am going to run the 30% blend. Full e85 does nasty things to the HPFP on these cars. Thanks!

I really want to order a cp-e down pipe was the install easy such as no fitment issues ? The Stud nuts easily installed or did it have a fitment issue?

@FiveFiveGarage

4 жыл бұрын

No fitment issues at all. Once I had the stock unit out, the cp-e fit right in on the first try. The studs are easy too, there is that one that is a pain, but that is with any downpipe that you put on this car. If you were looking for a recommendation, I would highly recommend it. Everything lined up, the hanger mounts were correct, it even bolted up to the stock catback with no issues.

@SrsLe33

4 жыл бұрын

@@FiveFiveGarage thx for the reply,i will be ordering, cheers!

When are you going to get a custom tune to wake the car up? With your current mods the car would be beastly with a custom tune. Nice color btw, I have the same

@FiveFiveGarage

6 жыл бұрын

The custom tune is coming. I think I want to add a FMIC and I have a couple more small pieces (I want to upgrade the EBCS to a Grimmspeed or JBR) and then I will get tuned. After that I am going to really dig into the suspension. Celestial Blue is one of the best colors!

@FiveFiveGarage

5 жыл бұрын

The stock boost control solenoid beings to have issues once you exceed 15 lbs of boost. Upgrading to a BCS with a better valve allows for faster response time, as well you can run a 3 port setup for use with a bigger turbo. If your goal is to turn up the boost, it's recommended to replace the stock BCS.

I'm currently open dp catless for now, waiting in till I get the new catback, but I got a CEL P0421 warm up catalyst efficiency below threshold (Bank 1) I'm kinda worried

@FiveFiveGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Is it getting colder where you live? That code usually happens when your o2 sensor isnt up to temperature. Try letting the car warm up for about 5 minutes then drive. You can also add a o2 extender to the o2 bung so that the sensor isn't sitting directly in full airflow. Which dp are you using?

@franklinenciso5471

3 жыл бұрын

@@FiveFiveGarage I'm using the CPE catless DP, and yeah it's pretty cold here below 35°. You think that putting the full catback will fix it?

@FiveFiveGarage

3 жыл бұрын

It *might* fix it. I would get an o2 extender and give it a shot, that is usually what fixes the issue. Even with the full catback, the 0421 code can be a problem.

I cannot remove the dowmstream O2 sensor ‘sensor. Stuck

@FiveFiveGarage

4 жыл бұрын

Use lots and lots of PB Blaster. Soak it and let it sit, sometimes overnight and slowly work it loose. Also try using some heat on it too.

I've installed all my exhaust on the cars I've owned, but the sensor connector on the forward O2 has a grey connector that I can't get off. Is that why you took off your O2 while still connected, and have you notice any codes from the wires being twisted? Thanks

@FiveFiveGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah I was having issue with it. No codes and everything has been fine. Try to get as much slack in the o2 wires as you can to try and minimize the damage.

@NurFaCeFoo

5 жыл бұрын

@@FiveFiveGarage Thank you so much. I thought it was me. I really appreciated your video

@FiveFiveGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! I had a time trying to get that plug off! I was more worried about damaging the plug, so I got as much of the wire free as possible to try and make sure that I didn't twist it tight. The secondary o2 sensor came off far easier.

@NurFaCeFoo

5 жыл бұрын

@@FiveFiveGarage hey boss I'm into it and the trick worked! Thank you. Next question. I have everything loose and wrestling with the pipe. You removed the middle frame brace correct?

@FiveFiveGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah. You will need all the room you can get to be able to wiggle the old pipe out and put the new pipe in!

Did you use a gasket for the bellmouth end to the exhaust.

@FiveFiveGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Going to the cat-back? No, the cp-e instructions said it wasn't necessary, and I haven't had any leaks.

@fitbkeco1028

5 жыл бұрын

Did you also come up short when you went to put it on. Mine is like 2” to short to the exhaust

@FiveFiveGarage

5 жыл бұрын

No, I was able to put the end of the downpipe snug up to the catback with ease. I had a small gap it was definitely not 2" though. Did you get the downpipe new or used?

I got the whole turbo back from corksport and after I got the speed back from the shop It immediately threw me a O2 sensor circuit no activity bank 1 sensor 1 code...did the shop damage that sensor? Is that sensor the very first sensor in the first heat shield removed? Is my problem a tunning problem? CS states the sensor was damaged....shop tells me I need a tune....any help will be appreciated

@FiveFiveGarage

4 жыл бұрын

The bank 1 sensor is the upstream sensor, that is the one you see on the bellmouth of the downpipe. That sensor is the Wideband sensor, which the ECU/Accessport relies on to do AFR readings. They can go bad with age, at the same time, removing them requires care, because if the wires get twisted and the sensor goes dead, the car will not run properly. If it is damaged it needs replaced. Check and make sure the O2 sensor wires are ok and connected, if so and it still gives you a code (I think its a P0136), replace the O2 sensor. Make sure to get an upstream sensor, the downstream sensor is not a wideband and it will not work. The shop is right too, you will definitely need a tune. Removing the stock exhaust setup removes a huge bottleneck in terms of air flow, the ECU isn't mapped for it, and the car is going to run lean. The ECU is going to try and dump more fuel to compensate and the stock HPFP can't keep up (please tell me you upgraded the HPFP, if not, do it before you drive the car again) and that is how these cars go ZZB.

@angelramos656

4 жыл бұрын

@@FiveFiveGarage Thank You for the reply! Yes Hpfp was my first mod. The codes I got as soon as I started the car was p0134 for 02 sensor circuit no activity detected (bank1 sensor1) and p0031 for HO2s heater control circuit low. I was planning on getting a custom tune from freaktune but the codes are holding me up since idk whether to keep fighting the shop for damaging the sensor like corksport suggested or if the shop is right and there is nothing wrong and a tune should fix it. Currently I'm running Cobb's ots stage 2 map. Again thank for the information.

@FiveFiveGarage

4 жыл бұрын

No problem! I would definitely get that sensor tested. Just from the two codes you posted, it seems to me to be a failed O2 sensor, no tune is going to fix that. Good luck on getting it sorted out!

What’s the size of the top O2 sensor socket can you post a link to the socket you bought for it?

@FiveFiveGarage

5 жыл бұрын

The socket is a 7/8 (22mm). If you have an Autozone or Advance Auto near by I would recommend using one of their rental kits. The sockets they use have thick walls and will not warp under torque. I also recommend getting a can of PB Blaster and pre-soaking the threads of the sensor the night before you start and then while you work it free.

This almost looks like it would work for the cx7. I can't find any downpipes for it

@FiveFiveGarage

2 жыл бұрын

It might, only issue I can think of is the firewall clearance.

Can you pass the inspection with that?

@FiveFiveGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Depends on where you live. If you only have to do a sniffer test, probably. If you have to do a visual, nope. Most Speed 3 owners hang on to the stock downpipe, and swap it in to pass emissions. Once passed then the aftermarket downpipe goes back in.

What o2 sensor did you end up buying?

@Fckfwd

2 жыл бұрын

O2 sensor socket*

@FiveFiveGarage

2 жыл бұрын

I rented one from Autozone. Its a thicker wall design. Use lots of PB Blaster as well!

Do you think it’s a good idea to put a LS3 engine in my 2008 mazda3 sedan and a corvette transmission as well

@modadabhoy4991

3 жыл бұрын

Bruh are you serious

And if not can you make one!?

@FiveFiveGarage

6 жыл бұрын

I will get my research together and add this video idea to the list. It is actually a great idea, I am not sure if people know there is actually an order that you should follow when modding the MS3/MS6 platform.

I get mine in tomorrow. I dread deciding on doing this myself... Can't waste 600 bucks though. 1200 with the Triton exhaust I bought too. Sigh, I need a torque wrench and then if I fuck up the sensors then fuck me

@FiveFiveGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Just take your time and take breaks if you need them. Be careful and make sure you get the o2 sensors unplugged before you remove them. The hardest part, by far, is getting that OEM downpipe out. Once you get past that point, it goes together pretty easy.

@ZVManning

5 жыл бұрын

@@FiveFiveGarage so basically the o2 sensors pop out and then you just baby the process of unscrewing the bolt? Also what size torque wrench fits in those spaces? Thanks for the help G

@FiveFiveGarage

5 жыл бұрын

The o2 sensors I recommend spraying with PB Blaster to help get them loose. You are going to need a good oxygen sensor socket, I rented mine from the local auto parts store. Don't try to remove them all the way first. Get it loose and then work it out slowly so the threads don't strip. You can get the upstream o2 sensor out while the OEM downpipe is in the car. The secondary o2 sensor I disconnected and removed when I got the OEM downpipe out. You can use a 3/8 torque wrench but for some of the downpipe to manifold bolts you are going to need extensions and a couple universals. There is one nut on the bottom that is a pain to remove and a pain to tighten.

I buy my downpipe and cat back exhaust but i dont have the tune sistem.i cant install my downpipe and cat back exhahust?

@FiveFiveGarage

5 жыл бұрын

I would not install the downpipe without a tune AND upgrading the high pressure fuel pump. Without the Accessport (or some way to tune it) the AFR's will go too lean under boost and damage the engine. Before adding anything really, the HPFP needs to be updated, that is a mandatory must-do mod.

@josuearroyo370

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@josuearroyo370

5 жыл бұрын

I can install my cat back for now??

@FiveFiveGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, the cat back will be fine for now.

@josuearroyo370

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks you are the best, i check the price of the accesport and high fuel pump but is cost a lot damn.

at 4:00 is that 10mm?

@FiveFiveGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, I believe that was a 10 mm.

very late on the comment but if you remember how long did this take you?

@FiveFiveGarage

2 жыл бұрын

A weekend, but that also included having to move the camera around and do many takes when I screwed up. If you soak all the nuts and bolts in PB Blaster a day or two before you take it apart you can do it in afternoon. The hardest part for me was getting the OEM downpipe out. You have to rotate it to find the right angle for it to slip out. Getting the o2 sensors out can be a bit of work too.

@alexgut7277

2 жыл бұрын

@@FiveFiveGarage one more question. i’m currently installing it and don’t see any new gaskets, should there be any or no?

@FiveFiveGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, there should be a gasket between the turbo and the downpipe.

How many miles did you have on your car when you did this install. Mine is at about 120,000 miles 😬

@FiveFiveGarage

4 жыл бұрын

I was ~60,000 mi when I installed the downpipe.

Cp-e won’t let me buy the catless downpipe

@FiveFiveGarage

6 жыл бұрын

Try ordering from edgemotorsports.com

He wasn't wearing the mask for the dust, he just knew covid was coming and was taking early action, 2 years before...

@FiveFiveGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Next video: how to turn your Mazdaspeed 3 into a time machine

@Thunderstorm9667

3 жыл бұрын

@@FiveFiveGarage Hahah perfect, yeah i'm a bit late to the party but at least i'm here!

Sorry but i see a booger!!