LC4❤

A spec racing series with these two together would be fun to watch!

The Ducati is easier and more refined than the KTM, to a point that the Ducati feels more like a beginners bike relative to the KTM which is more aggressive and a beast. Except for vibrations, less on the Ducati, the Ducati is a disappointment regarding its engine, significantly weaker than the KTM (not surprising: less displacement, shorter stroke).

@1000pscom

Ай бұрын

if you watch the whole video you can see the acceleration test we did with both, no difference in torque can be felt throughout the revs.

Can I get the RVE options with the regular color way? I think those graphics are corny

@1000pscom

Ай бұрын

you can get the quickshifter on the non RVE model yes. I'd personally go for the standard version with the added QS as well.

Take 2 minutes next time to check the prices of the bikes instead of misleading people to think that both bikes cost the same...

ktm over the ducati any day

its pretty , but ill keep my ktm ... parts / aftermarket are available and cheaper (till someone cracks the duc ecu anyway)

@1000pscom

Ай бұрын

aftermarket availability is a valid reason for the KTM

701 for me every day!! 😊

@1000pscom

Ай бұрын

Very valid bike! Especially after a few mods :)

When you say quik shifter is that a recluse type clutch or special cut trans gears.

20% fuel economy difference is not small, it just isn't.

@1000pscom

Ай бұрын

i dare say that very few people care about fuel economy on a sumo, sure on adv's where you eat up miles after miles but not on a sumo. Also it's the manufacturers claims so not verified, could be that they have the same MPGs in reality, not like they're super precise with MPG figures, goes for both obviously

@ogasi1798

Ай бұрын

@@1000pscom agreed

@ewganhoff

Ай бұрын

Ducati have form in this area. I read a mag shootout with the v4 multistrada and super adventure S. The ducati consistently used 50% more fuel (😮) than the ktm on the big trip they did.

@MotoExploring

Ай бұрын

i have a 690 with 36 000kms and for me fuel economy is something for sure i care. And to do 4.1L/100 is riding slow, normally mine does 5~5.5 .

@BlueRage

12 күн бұрын

@@1000pscom BS...whrn you have a small tank to begin with.

Also this the first year for the Ducati and i would like to see the comparison once the Ducati has a few years on it, first years usually have bugs to iron out.

Great review , thank you 🙏🏼, going for the Ducati after this

Great bike.. I’ve ordered the standard one as its already expensive - hopefully i’ll get to review against my friends 690

@1000pscom

Ай бұрын

good choice!

The Duc is too expensive for what it is. If it actually was say 15kg lighter then I would have been willing to shill out for that bike at that price tag.

This video is highly biased. The KTM has more torque and faster in a drag race. I've compared it with my buddy's Ducati and even swapped riders because we weigh different and the KTM won every time. The drag race was not even fair. Neither of the bikes were at the powerband and you need a stand still or at least 10 mph rolling start. The KTM also can cruise better on the highway because of the extra torque and longer 6th gear. The KTM also has tons of powerparts and aftermarket support.

The Ducati has the worst possible stickers on it

@1000pscom

Ай бұрын

im not a fan of them either, personally... i'd prefer the standard model

Well, you compared the RVE version (which is 22% more expensive) to the stock KTM in the EU where I live. The stock Ducati is still 10% more expensive, heavier despite the cast wheels (KTM cast wheel conversions are 2-3kg lighter), has 10% less torque, and QS must be bought as an accessory (wtf?). Everyone expected a much lighter, more powerful and better looking bike, including myself... There is very little meat on the bone (apart from electronic aids and display) for the SM crowd to jump brand without any financial incentive. The USA prices you stated are wrong as well: Ducati USA lists the RVE at 14.495 USD, KTM USA list the 690 at 12.999 USD...

@bbouchan1

Ай бұрын

The Ducati's chassis much better.

@kyleg8928

Ай бұрын

@@bbouchan1thats an opinion not fact…frame stiffness and compliance is subjective to some degree.

@kyleg8928

Ай бұрын

You hit my points well sir.

@Jimmyjonesjunior

Ай бұрын

I fully agree with OP. The KTM has more torque, and both its peak hp and peak torque are in lower rpm's, where you want it. The KTM can be converted to a dual sport, and it can take a beating. The ducati is beautiful, but too fragile and feminine for true supermoto behavior. The only thing it really does better is electronics. The KTM also has the fuel tank in the back so it will turn in better both on/off road. The KTM also has way more luggage and adventure parts available. It's honestly a no brainer once you look at the facts.

@bbouchan1

Ай бұрын

@@kyleg8928 I've owned a 701 for 2.5 years, It's my favorite bike compared to my 1290 Super duke & 765 RS....But I've tried the 698 several times now & for road riding the chassis is much easier & accurate through the bends. The Ktm/Husky sm were developed from the enduro version while the 698 was developed for the road. I think it's the better bike for road riding. Physics is not subjective.

The HM698 tops my personal wishlist at the moment.

Ducati should do dual sport 21' - 18' wheels, and also rally fairing wersion. Probably will be best selling bikes of the decade.

Sponsored by Ducati

@1000pscom

Ай бұрын

Lol, usually people claim, that we as Austrians are sponsored by KTM. No matter how it goes, apparently we are all paid. Would be nice to finally receive all those $$$. Cheers, McGregor

698 Monster would be nice

@1000pscom

Ай бұрын

now that you said it, actually true!

I'm sorry but that Ducati is not a real supermoto. It's a naked bike dressed up as supermoto. Can't touch the KTM.. You can toss some dirt tires on that KTM and eat up trails.

@796andy2

Ай бұрын

I've seen some dealers here sell them with extra wheel/tire package

@jaminclardy2605

Ай бұрын

@796andy2 🤣 I guess you can put dirt wheels on anything. I've seen dirt wheels on Harley Baggers too.

@BlueRage

12 күн бұрын

Which is exactly what the Dorsoduro is / was to Aprilia...not a supermoto. Aprilia called it a "multi moto." if you put the Mono and the Dorsoduro side by side, looks like plagiarism on Ducati's part. They made a single cylinder Aprilia Dorsoduro.

Yay, the Aprilia Dorsoduro is back with one cyl. Plagerism much Ducati?

@1000pscom

Ай бұрын

huh? that makes no sense at all, the dorsoduro's competitors are the two cylinder hypermotards

@BlueRage

Ай бұрын

@@1000pscom The looks. Look at them side by side. They made a single cyl Aprilia Dorsoduro.

The Ducati has the glamour, and modernity. KTM will be hitting back hard, to take back the throne, with better display, and better electronics. But now may be the time to get a good deal on the KTM as is today. It was always over priced. I would buy one for 9000 to 10,000 Euro, new, zero km. Ducati have upped the game, and introduced, much needed, competition in this genre of bike. I am supprised the Japanese, or Chinese, have not tapped into this market. Special note to Suzuki to produce a supermoto on the lines of the DRZ400SM, using a 650 cc single.

Similar review to mine and Hypermotard king. Real world riding puts them on par. I weight a lot more than Kal 😁 so our 3rd 4th gear pulls were a little bias to the Ducati. But after swapping bikes they seemed the same. I agree with some of the comments regarding the Ducati being softer. It has a better screen, more rider aids BUT supermoto isn’t about all the gizmos. I liked the Mono but I prefer my 690 smc r.

Is he struggling with his memory or just with the English language? A bit of a mess really.

@1000pscom

Ай бұрын

why dont you come and film 5 takes in 2 foreign languages one after the other for a total of 10 takes who sometimes have to be repeated without ever committing a mistake oh and make sure to know all the specific terms and dont you dare make mistakes or make it seem like youre not a native otherwise people like you will comment and complain.

@michaeltelemachus5112

Ай бұрын

@@1000pscom It was your choice to try and do it mate. Not much point if it is not coherent.

@K777John

Ай бұрын

And there was me about to thank and congratulate you on your presentation and the fact that you were doing it in a language which is not your native tongue…… You can’t please all the people all of the time!

@michaeltelemachus5112

Ай бұрын

@@K777John There are so many good English speaking KZread channels now so why would you want to try and compete with them when you cannot put a sentence together correctly. Remember, we are talking about a supposedly professional outfit here, not a solitary Joe doing it for a bit of fun or pocket money.

@viezeturk8191

4 күн бұрын

Germany is the biggest and strongest country in the EU, its basically the father of the EU.. and somehow they really suck at speaking english. It boggled my mind also when i visited there 😅

I feel like the point of a Supermoto is to be playful droppable and durable. neither of these overpriced bikes allow you to really have fun without worrying about breaking it.

@AM-uk7jv

11 күн бұрын

Then build your own.

@pucknhusker9426

Күн бұрын

Ducati is a "sumo" for rich dummies' who need aids to ride. At least the KTM could handle a beating but ill stick to a motorbike not a robot.

KTM quikshifter is shit + you can steal it much easier (start it just cut the ignition wires put them together and off you go). Aaaand the KTM dial/gauge is like from old calculator. Lets not even talk about the electronics... Ducati is clear winner.

Ktm made in China , no doubt the Ducati will be quality bike unlike the other . Suspension is always a question mark the WP gear , unless its another ktm advert revue who never mention the issues of these bikes . Fan Boy is a penciled term that originated to label ktm defenders . They use it now like its generic . Ktm things is another one :)

@markstill8258

Ай бұрын

690's are made in Austria only the small bikes are not built in Austria.