Two awesome gens. I’m impressed with the Wen and they’ve recently come out with the 4000 watt. It’s also quieter than the Champion

@newgeneration3496

3 жыл бұрын

Loved everything about the df4000 except* didn’t have remote start (that I could find)

@BreakingPintMedia

2 жыл бұрын

@@newgeneration3496 look at the DuroWatt (rebranded DuroMax) DUPLEX 4550i. It has dual-fuel, remote start, and digital fuel gauge. Gavin has a review of the DuroMax XP4500iH which is the exact same unit, sans a few watts higher rating on the DuroWatt branded one (which...might just be marketing).

@BreakingPintMedia

2 жыл бұрын

@@newgeneration3496 for context, I'm on the same boat as you with the df4000...wishing it had remote start. It's otherwise a great unit for the price.

@newgeneration3496

2 жыл бұрын

@@BreakingPintMedia I ended up with the champion 100573 for remote start, and the champion in this video (duel fuel). The 573 is a beast, it’s not as quiet but it cranks after months of not starting on the first pull or push of the remote start. Great option if the quietness isn’t that big of a deal cause the remotes great.

@shanew7361

2 жыл бұрын

@@BreakingPintMedia It's $955 on Amanzon, awfully spendy, the 4550i that is.

Hell yea! The two I've been eyeballing! Love the channel 💥🖐

Thanks for the info on the intake and plywood. Never even thought of the intake being on the bottom.

Hey Gavin just ordered mine. I went with the dual fuel over the remote start. Just cause in my situation I need the dual fuel more then having a remote. Thanks for your help on providing all this information. It makes it easier for us to see exactly what generator would work better for us. Thanks buddy.

Thanks for doing a great comparison on the bigger generator. Keep em coming!!

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the support 👍🏾

@shanew7361

3 жыл бұрын

Yea I agree, this guys channel is legit!

I'm up in the air between these exact 2 generators thank you for this review. Remote start is key for use in cold Northern WI hunting camp conditions!

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

Hope this helps you, let us know which one you choose. Thanks for watching 👍🏾

@ChristisKing117

3 жыл бұрын

My sister has the wen. I just ordered the champion. The starting watts make a difference, especially at altitude.

What’s up Gavin! I met you in Cy-Fair at the gas station that night! You were in the ZOOM ZOOM! Hey great video man! I need to invest in a generator. Video is right on time. Great job sir! 👊🏾

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

Hey what’s up! Yessir you gotta be prepared for those power outages

Thanks! I feel good about my recent purchase of the Champion 4500 duel fuel! And I don’t know anything about generators.

@ondaslab

3 жыл бұрын

Purchased same one a couple months ago ....great so far

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching 👍🏾

@sae1964

3 жыл бұрын

I just ordered mine too,, 4500 dual fuel. Should be arriving Saturday. 👍. Thanks Gavin for your videos and great information.

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

@@sae1964 you’re welcome 😊 let me know if you guys want me to do a first service or breaking video also I can show what spark plug you can replace

@ondaslab

3 жыл бұрын

@@sae1964 I did a quick video on mine... , in case you haven't seen any yet

Great videos buddy. We are looking at several generators, including Champion and Generac

@GeneratorReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Great! Thanks for watching, Go ahead and browse through the videos it should help you make that decision easier. And don’t forget to subscribe😊

Hi, Wen just came out with a 4500 starting and 3500 running (no electric start) . Can you do a review on this generator? Thanks for the good work. 👍

Nice review. I currently have a 2015 Champion 3100W inverter gen. As of now the generator has 4700 Hrs. of run time on it. I installed an Hr. meter when I bought it. I use it to power my camper at deer camp every year. I run the gen about 650 to 700 hours each season. So far I have changed the oil once a season, approx. 650 Hrs. I cleaned the Carb last year ( not rebuilt just cleaned ) Got a new air cleaner too. This Gen has worked perfect and has NEVER EVER failed me. I have never adjusted the valves or even changed the original spark plug. ( if it ain't broke don't fix it ) IOW my little champion gen is awesome. I will buy another Champion when I need a new generator. I plan on adjusting the valves, and replacing the spark plug this year. I'm not really sure that is a good idea but I am going to do it anyway. If it ain't broke don't fix it. Real life experience with a Champion Gen. Brand loyalty here. Just saying. Once again, 4700 hours of reliable use, always starts, always works. BTW I only use NON Ethanol gas.

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. Sounds like you’re doing everything right I would change the plugs change the oil clean the spark arrester if you have one on that model. It’s funny but most generators die because they don’t get used enough Awesome job my friend thanks for sharing that with me.

@A_Man_In_His_Van

2 жыл бұрын

Adjust your valves to the proper clearance before you burn your exhaust valve. You are WAY OVERDUE.

I immediately went and put a plastic mat under my Wen, which was in the dry, dusty, dirt, here in the national forest. Thanks.

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

Yep and the predator 3500 is the same That’s why you hear folks complaining about overheating and staffing for air problems the intake is blocked Thanks for watching 👍🏾

Why not do the 4500 dual fuel vs this 4500 champion

Nice job sir!

@GeneratorReviews

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

I have the WEN DF 451I coming this week. WEN 4500 starting and 3500 running propane running will be 3100 give or take 50watts

Gavin… stumbled upon your channel while researching generators for my RV…. very informative indeed. I have a question about powering two roof a/c units on my toy hauler… the Rv has a 30 amp service (originally) single 15k btu a/c, I had a second 13.5k btu a/c Installed in the “master bedroom” (it gets super hot/humid in central Florida) which is on its own 30 amp breaker and twist lock, which powers only the a/c nothing else. Since the Champion 4500 has a single 120v 30amp RV outlet, can both units be run simultaneously? and if so what type of “splitter” could be used?…. Thanks..

@GeneratorReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Here’s the adapter I think might work for your situation let me know what you think amzn.to/3xsG9PP

Gavin I have found your videos a great help in my research. I think I'm down to this Wen or two Champion 2500s to run in parallel. The Wen is significantly cheaper, but I like the versatility of the two small Champions. Would you have a preference? I'll be using it for power outages at home to run a couple fridge/freezers and a small basement sump pump and also a camper with 15k btu AC and two fridges. Maybe will do one or two boondocking trips a year. Your input would be appreciated. Thanks.

@GeneratorReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Frank With the two 2500 you’ll have 5000 starting watts. They’re also really easy to move around and like you said when you don’t need all that power you could just run one single generator just allow you to maintain just one generator instead of two. It’s also nice to have redundancy, if one’s not working there’s always that other one Check out these two videos on paralleling kzread.info/dash/bejne/nqOYzsSYZpaaldI.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/aq6N1bqOhqSfqZc.html

Good point bro!

@GeneratorReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

I have the new wen 4500 dual fuel with remote start. You do awesome reviews but I’m curious if you have any expertise on these at high altitude running on propane.

@GeneratorReviews

Жыл бұрын

No high altitude experience but you may have to get it jetted for high altitude

Wen has a 4500 watt now it is dual fuel plus remote start df450 it sells for $701 on amazon

I noticed the champion has a higher output for the USB it is 5 V compared to 2.1 V

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

They are all 5v but the amps might be different

Amazon has the wen on sale for 610 right now

@nimrodpaul6875

2 жыл бұрын

Dang, that's a good deal don't ya think. I'm finding it for 639 on Amazon and I think I'm buying it. Would you purchase extra warranty, it comes with 2 or 3 years already?

@hacksaw413

2 жыл бұрын

@@nimrodpaul6875 I did see that the price went up a little bit. As far as the warranty I think anything that's wrong will show up in the first 6 months of use.

how much did you pay for each of them and which one is quieter?....nice video buy the way.

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

They seem to be about the same dB but check out the links in my description for the prices thanks for watching👍🏾

The electric choke on the champion concerns me because if it goes bad you’ll of to replace the entire circuit board. Both are good inverters so I wouldn’t judge.

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

I haven’t heard of too many complaints on the electric choke going out and since you only use it once per start there’s just not a lot of wear and tear on the choke most times you don’t even need to use it if the generator is already warm. I think it’s probably a non-concern but that was a great point. Thanks for watching.

@apexkevv8904

3 жыл бұрын

@@GeneratorReviews keep in mind that if the batteries goes down the electric choke will be a big problem. The recoil start would take awhile to get going. I think there’s a manual choke in side the generator but you’ll of to remove the side panels every time you start the generator. I may be wrong but I think just that.

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

@@apexkevv8904 you’re right about the manual choke but with the lithium battery It probably won’t be an issue but I think they should’ve added a charging port like all the other 4500 generator

So would they be the same engines and case, but with a Wen vs Champion designed inverter? I was wondering since the Wen, Champion, and Rato units all look pretty similar with the same displacement.

@GeneratorReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty much comes down to the warranty and the color everything else is the same

@EchoConstellation

2 жыл бұрын

@@GeneratorReviews awesome! Thanks! I’m not sure if you’d ruffle any manufacturers’ feathers, but it’d be enlightening if you could do a video on which generators are from the same OEM and just wearing different branding!

I have a question. Can you turn off the fuel and run the remaining gas out of the carb, so the carb on either one of these gen's does not get gummed up? You know what I mean, If you can't run the fuel out of the carb it's going to get messed up and need to be either cleaned or replaced. ( The fuel left in the carb bowl will cause the gen to NOT run or start if not used regularly, the fuel float will get stuck ) All of that automatic stuff is nice, but being able to drain the carb will keep the gen working with a lot less maintenance. Just curious.

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

Yes the Wen Generator is capable of running the fuel out of the carburetor it has that feature built-in the champion does not have that feature

@robertbrown1933

2 жыл бұрын

But you should be able to cut the fuel line switch to the off position and do the same thing

So if the 2 generators are both 212cc does that mean the champion will Rev higher to achieve a higher peak wattage? Or are they doing something else to extract more power from the generators?

@GeneratorReviews

Жыл бұрын

They just use a larger inverter for the 4500

I watched the individual videos on these generators you have. They appear identical on the internals. I paused with the side panel off on each and they appear to be the same engines. Maybe the generator is different? How many of these generators are using the same engines and are essentially the same except for exterior colors? The WEN is so much less expensive for the same dang thing. Bought a small A-ipower (2200?) the engine is a yamaha...why buy a yamaha? service? Please delve into the inventory you have and let us know which of these things are the same? You have helped me tremendously...Thank you.

@GeneratorReviews

Жыл бұрын

They are pretty much the same generator from the same manufacturer like you stated, warranty and colors are the only difference really.

the Champion @ 706.51 compared to Wen 740.60 .The Champ has more power for less money very interesting in deed.I have the 2000 Watt Wen i haven't had any problems yet and its got pretty good ratings on Amazon that's why i bought it, and its low noise level. Gavin has you tested the Noise level on the Wen 3800 it sounded fairly quiet here .On the specs for the Wen 3800 its rated @ 57 db wow thats amazing if true

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

It’s truly an amazing Generator I think the extra thick insulation helped with the low Db rating and it’s eco mode doesn’t ramp up the throttle it increases smoothly 👍🏾

I noticed the Wen was in Eco mode for the test. Would the Wen start the 2nd AC on the 1st try if Eco Throttle was turned off?

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

In all of my testing the generator usually have the same results with it on and off plus if you’re using your Gen would you really run it wide open throttle for hours I think the 4500w starting power helped the champion Thanks for watching

@BreakingPintMedia

2 жыл бұрын

@@GeneratorReviews I've tested eco on vs off with surging starts and I have found it can make a difference in the output voltage when a big load first kicks on. With eco off, voltage stays around 120+ wheras with eco on it can drop a few moments before the RPM ramp up. That could have caused your 2nd AC to not be able to start the first time it tried. Eco mode is meant for low, steady loads and the system can compensate beyond eco mode RPMs as needed but because the RPMs are down, the initial power demand can cause a slight drop in voltage before the generator is able to ramp up the engine. Hope that makes sense!

@nimrodpaul6875

2 жыл бұрын

@@BreakingPintMedia good comment, im thinking on buying wen, its 639 bucks right now

@ChrisHufnagel_Polymath

Жыл бұрын

The docs say to only use eco if your load is at 75% (or less) of continuous. That second ac pushed it above 90% so I agree the eco should be off if the second ac is going to be on all the time.

So which costs more or are they the same price?

@GeneratorReviews

6 ай бұрын

The champion definitely cost more

What is the brand of volt meter you are using?

@GeneratorReviews

Жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/fnpmuZuJn87WhbQ.html Check out my video on this meter links in description

Hey you should read the manual wen states when running a ac unit it should not be on eco mode like you have your on the video

@GeneratorReviews

Жыл бұрын

Always on eco mode Wen don’t pay for our gas plus the AC can go off for 10 minutes. There’s no need to have the generator running wide-open throttle outside.

Is the Champion more quiet

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

They sounded the same to me honestly I couldn’t hear a difference. Thanks for watching

Where did you get that meter?.

@GeneratorReviews

Жыл бұрын

Links in the description of the video kzread.info/dash/bejne/fnpmuZuJn87WhbQ.html

Either my videos skip or you pointed out twice the differences in the fuel gauge

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

I probably pointed it out twice 😆

That wasn't two tries. It started the first AC compressor, then the second.

Thank you for sharing a features highlight of these 2 generators, Gavin. They both look like great options! Ha....here I have been complaining about 100lbs over the last 2 weeks and I'm still looking at the bigger options hehehehe. I feel that if I just carried a set of ramps, that I already have, that would mitigate an option such as these. I really like the starter switch being built into the knob on both of these. And, I REALLY like the remote start on the Champion. However, I have a dog, so I'd be going out into the morning cold anyways. But...it is definitely a nice feature! ponder ponder ponder! I happened to click on a Lowe's site, last night, that had the smaller Westinghouse 2500s. They were $150 off through last night; for $450. I had to go walk my dog and got back inside at about 1020pm mountain time. Little did I know that the sale ended at midnight east coast time :-( Anyways.....that allows more time to ponder and verify what specific features we need. Safe travels!

@GeneratorReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Ohhh men!! I sure hate when I miss a sale👍🏾 I got a 2k - 2.5k comparison video coming soon

I'm still confused why all these nice new generators keep putting on these weak 1a/2.1a USB chargers. That's like 13 year old power ratings. Where is the USB type-c PD? or the QC3.0 or more? I simply would never bother with such weak USB ports for anything.

@GeneratorReviews

Жыл бұрын

True!!

Can you do a review on the Sportsman 3500 dual fuel enclosed casing generator. The model is 3500dfi. Less wiz and bangs but it is rv ready , dual fuel capable and super quiet I have heard.

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

I will check it out Thanks

@mbburg2149

3 жыл бұрын

@@GeneratorReviews great reviews!!!! Made several purchases based on your reviews. I love your channel, but my wife has a different opinion...lol. Definitely man cave = power equipment!!!

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

@@mbburg2149 😂🤣👍🏾 Thanks for watching

dude stop trying to convince yourself bro lol old post i know but lets face it the wen is a lil bit better ftw.... and now they have the dual fuel ones with a wen at 4k watts now im getting the wen.

@GeneratorReviews

Жыл бұрын

😅 ok ok the dual fuel Wen 4K is quieter ftw…👍🏾💯

Stay with this model wen generator.there new model like this is only 3200 running watts.this one is 3400 running watts.

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

Yes the 4000w dual fuel is 3200w running🤷🏽‍♂️

I guess I need a do a review on these things. These people don't know shit.

@ihaveasandwichinmypocket

3 жыл бұрын

You are gonna half life those really fast without parreling them.

@GeneratorReviews

3 жыл бұрын

Who??

First of intake on the Ground is the stupidest design I’ve ever seen! Thanks won’t buy these crap.

@GeneratorReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Intake on the ground seems like a afterthought since most people run the generator in outside grass and dirt construction areas. Thanks