I'm still a sucker for the 20in AR15.

"Once you buy an AR-15, it'll quickly become your favorite to shoot" I can second that, bought my first AR here recently and I've had a blast with it.

My old baby! When I joined the Army back in 99 we had A-2's 1 and 7" twist 20" barrel. I never had any issues with it! When my unit was given the m-4 however that was a different story we had issues with it. The Army has a bad habit of adopting new rifles during and before conflicts. I personally prefer the A-2/A-4 configuration. The rounds seem to be more effective both in range and power. The system isn't over gased. It doesn't foul as much as the m-4. In my experience the A2 was more reliable. We had issues with m-4's shorter gas system. It got hotter quicker and more fouling parts wore out quicker. From what I've understand they since resolved the m-4's issues. But since fighting in Afghanistan is fought at longer ranges they should have stuck with the A2 and made the 77gr OMT standard round I think we would have been better equipt for the style of fighting that took place in Afghanistan. Haji used to engage us with Enfields Mauser's and Mosin Nagants because they knew the limitations of our carbines and our ammunition and our training with cqb. In Iraq the m-4 did fine cqb style of fighting but it still had issues with dust and debris.

@victorglaviano

4 жыл бұрын

When I came in in '87 we still had A1s around, heavy ass, triangular grip musket!

@victorglaviano

4 жыл бұрын

As a Afghanistan veteran, with body armor and dismounted, the M4 was much better. You could collapse it, hook it to your IBA and if you were doing cordon and search and something or someone jumped... You could throw it up quickly damn near like a pistol! Besides, 98% of any shooting I did was with a M240, only about 2-3 times with my M4!

@NoGoBu

3 жыл бұрын

Stupid move U. Sam,14.5." 20 " AR 👌 Get some 🤪

@anthonyrichard461

6 ай бұрын

The A2 was slightly heavier than the A1 due to the heavier barrel. Lower receivers & BCG's relatively stayed the same/weight. I served from 87 to 92. Found the A2's to be a bit more accurate and the sights were easier to fine tune elevation and windage. @@victorglaviano

1: 12 twist generates a slower spinning rate than 1:7. 1:7 means the bullet will rotate in one full rotation in 7 inches.

@DSMattitude

5 жыл бұрын

Twist rate doesnt mean shit when you are skipping bullets off the hood of your truck like sootch does 😂

@kilo0151

3 жыл бұрын

@@DSMattitude lmao 😂😂😂

@bigbob6554

3 жыл бұрын

Ya hes confused

Bro it's your Fault again 20 years just bought mine M16A2 second gun from watching you awesome love the gun and your videos

@1911blacksteel

2 жыл бұрын

I am Mr 1911blacksteeel and I follow and love this guy better listen 👂

Thanks for the vid. Im in the market for an AR. The info here really helped my learning curve. Much appreciated.

Love the 20" AR's especially with the carry handle. Not to mention 90% of my ammo is 55gr M193 and the extra velocity really helps out a lot

I would have pegged you, Sootch, as having an old school HBAR. You're my favorite gun channel.

You Sir!!! Are By Far One The Best Gun Channels Hands Down!!! Ive enjoyed your gun videos and some of your prep vids for years now ,Thank you

I'm surprised not more people mentioned the incorrect spin rate stated. 1/12 twist is slower than 1/7 twist.

@makman1962

8 жыл бұрын

As am I. That's not a minor error.

@makman1962

7 жыл бұрын

X-Ray Crystallography Dumb? Hardly. Uninformed on this specific detail? Yes. I will say that this is a good example of why folks should take everything they see on the internet with a grain of salt. It should also be noted that while Sootch00 does speak with an "air of authority" he has never presented himself as an expert in the field of firearms.

@makman1962

7 жыл бұрын

X-Ray Crystallography Well, he doesn't need me to come to his rescue. No, I feel like a fool for completely different reasons, such as enriching divorce attorneys after marrying high maintenance whores. And yes, he is wrong on a great many things in many of his videos. That certainly makes him ignorant, but not necessarily "dumb". I've known quite a few intelligent folks that were ignorant on one or more subjects and a handful of intellectually challenged people that were actually well-informed in certain areas. Personal attacks don't make for a valid argument, period. As far as his being cute, I'm not a homosexual...not that there's anything wrong with that.

@makman1962

7 жыл бұрын

X-Ray Crystallography I'm not advocating for Sootch00. I'm advocating for civility and reason. It's more than a bit ironic that you are a stickler for accuracy in regards to his video content, yet you don't differentiate between ignorance and outright stupidity. I agree that when someone puts info out there for the world to see, they open themselves up to criticism, especially when they are serial offenders. However, I make a distinction between the message and the messenger. Granted, I have seen him put out a video that displayed irresponsible and dangerous handling of firearms (and I admit THAT could be an argument for stupidity), but I have yet to see him put out info that is inherently dangerous. Overall, he's harmless.

@makman1962

7 жыл бұрын

X-Ray Crystallography:-) Well, at least you've managed to come out of your shell and tell us all how you really feel. As I already admitted to being a fool (as in stupid) for my costly misadventures in love, you haven't scored an intellectual victory there. Anyway, it takes a lot more than personal attacks from an ill-tempered keyboard commando to ruin my day, so sorry...you lose. I'm no believer in karma, but I'm sure your attitude and disposition will eventually catch up with you. Not that it matters to me either way. Have a good life.

Thanks for this very informed stuff!!!

I knew I loved your accent! South Carolinan is the best of the lot. Great review. Built my A2 and love it to death! A Southern California Yankee.

I plan on starting an A2 build in the near future. Even though it would save me a bit of money, I just can't stand the uppers with the option of a detachable carry handle. Those adjustable pegs would drive me insane just because of the aesthetics.

that is more of an A4 than an A2...

@6.4hemidriver44

5 жыл бұрын

Mark Hayes, right he A2 has the permanent carry handle, the A4 has the detachable carry handle.

@shockwave._.8098

4 жыл бұрын

It is an a4 because it has a removable carry handle

@850spirates3

4 жыл бұрын

No it’s an A3! The A4 had the knights M5 rail. I was an infantryman I would know.

@shockwave._.8098

4 жыл бұрын

@@850spirates3 oh the handguards are different noted

@850spirates3

4 жыл бұрын

og Torigaming. com yes sir. I prefer the round hand guards as long as I’m not attaching anything. Just a comfortable feel

Working on my first Hbar build now. Thumbs way up!

@noeezyfluff

8 жыл бұрын

+GEC7.62X39 you wouldn't happen to live in communist-MD too would you? lol

Just bought one with a slab receiver , this one here looks in outstanding condition.. thanks how true favorite to shoot...

Great, professional review, thumbs-up!

They are great rifles,no question about it.Thanks Sootch

Great vid, Sootch. Keepem coming.

I have that same exact gun made in 1993, love it, its my fav gun. The guy I purchased it from had some pretty expensive optics mounted on it, I took them off and only use the iron sites, !

Regarding 1:31 for clarification, on the original M16A1 rifle, its barrel had a one twist along 12 inches as its stabilizing gyroscopic spin for the 55 grain bullet. However on the next generation M16A2 rifle, its barrel had a faster one twist along 7 inches as its stabilizing gyroscopic spin for the new 62 grain bullet.

AR15 in it's classic configuration, is an excellent grab and go rifle. No need for optics to worry about batteries and zeroing. I have always trained myself to shoot well with iron sights. Long Live the AR15/M16.

Good stuff as always Sootch.

Back in 1999 I bought a similar rifle from Bushmaster. Same design and style. It was a great shooter.

Hey sootch. i love these videos bro. I'm probably joining the army soon, and i have some friends already in. I've convinced them that the AR15 is a good platform considering all the possibilities for customization. (7.62 uppers, P90 uppers, butt stocks, pistol grips, triggers, hand guards, sights, etc)

Beautiful Gun!

Bought my new back in 93' and still have it.

Thank you for the information i just got one H BAR

You should revisit this one sootchy

Love it, got a Stag Arms HBAR 4L, its more accurate and only a bit heavier than the rifle I was issued when active Army. I was pleased to find an American made left-handed model. Not big on a lot of accessories but I did upgrade a few things and she eats everything I feed her. 20" is the only way to go!!

I love this gun so much. I want one.

good video. learned alot

Own one myself love it.

Love it!

My grandpa gave me a H bar delta several years ago, it came with a bayonet lug, factory cheek riser, a ten power scope and a metal case. I cant find any info on it but its a damn nice rifle.

The Marine Corps wanted nothing to do with the M16 for competition until the USAMU switched (from the M14) and started spanking them every year at Camp Perry.

@j.settle6448

8 жыл бұрын

Bingo!!!

thank you for the look at the Colt AR15A2 my bother has a M4 and i and thinking ether a M4 or a AR15 this vid help alot thank you.

Nice! I just built this AR15 from a parts kit using a Battle Born billet stripped lower. However, I went even more old school and used an A2 20" HBAR upper that does not have the removable carry handle. I would love to fit it with the original style triangular hand guard if it will fit. Anyway, nice rifle! Looks just like my build.

I have the Colt hbar as seen in your video. It’s an excellent rifle. I shot it in the USMC. What is a good optic to mount on the fixed carry handle. I thought of Acog but they are super expensive. Thanks! Good video

I’m putting an hbar upper (found one at a pawn shop) on an Anderson lower for my first build.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. I LEARNED A LOT. YOU ARE MY FAVORITE UTUBER. HOPE I CAN HAVE THE HONOR OF MEETING YOU IN PERSON SOMEDAY. KEEP UP THE GOOD REVIEWS

@semiautoriflelover Really? Which branch is using that? It just sounds a little light for a sure-kill. No doubt you could hit the target, but are they having good kill effect with them?

That is my favourite rifle. Can't wait till I'm 18

Thanks for the interesting video. I built my first Ar-15 about 15 years ago. It was in A2 configuration and i loved how accurate it was at the range. Sold all my guns in 2011 to finance move here to NC and i have just started a low budget Ar-15 build project. I am using a FMK AR-1 Extreme polymer lower I bought locally for $49.00 and i just this week received my lower parts kit from PSA for an additional $49.00 and everything fit perfectly. I live on much more limited income now so i need to stretch this build out over quite some time. Next month I plan on buying A2 butt stock assembly from Joeboboutfitters for $54.99. After that i have to make a big decision. Initially i was going to try and make this build as much like the M-16A1 I had when i was in the US Army in 70s and 80s. However after checking it seems A1 upper and SP-1 barrel will be a bit expensive. Palmetto State Armory has 16" barreled Flat Top upper assembly for $199.00 . This does not include BCG or charging handle. I would now prefer to have a full 20" HBAR for the accuracy at the range. Do you know where I can get a 20" HBAR upper assembly for about same price as the 16" Upper assembly at PSA? PSA does not have any in stock and it seems most companies gravitate to the carbine barrels. If I have to go with a 16" barrel will i be sacrificing much in way of accuracy out to 200 yds? I will probably do most of my shooting at 100 yds as my knees can not handle walk out much further to post my targets. Thanks

What you think of an HBAR style AR15A2 for a shtf battle/survival firearm?

Hello sootch00. Would you be able to put a 20" upper onto a M4 lower? Wanting up upgrade without physically changing out the the barrel from 16" to 20". Thanks!

Sootch00, the sights were upgraded with an elevation knob, the peep sights stayed the same, the big sights is for night time shooting and 300 meters and the small one is for +300 meters and day time

Very nice rifle bro!

1/12 twist is actually slower than 1/7... I am sure that was just a slip of tongue, just pointing it out.

What kind of groups ya getting..i haven't found a round that gives me good groups..? Thanks

Love my Colt MT 6700. Thanks Sootch00

Good review sootch00.

These are VERY good guns. I had a C.A.R. and it shot 3/8" of a inch at 100 yards. With just otc ammo

First rifle I ever shot..... Good gun there.

Own two pre-bans AR 15 A2 Hbar sporters, both 1985s. Boy they both tack drive. With great optics. Love them. Freedom and liberty 🇺🇲

Hey Sootch is that your personal rifle? If so ever run and gun with it? since thats the style rifle I used in the reserves I would prefer it (I think) to an M4 style AR. If you did run and gun with it, how did find it compared to the M4 style?

@sootch00 i was wondering if yours is chambered in the 5.56? also wich does the military use the 556 or the 223 version.

I've got a Colt Sporter Competition HBAR with a 1 in 9 twist, shoots like a winner.

Do they make this m16 type model in something other than a colt? For a more budget minded person?

i love these plain like this i think theyr beatifull

Yeah I had a Colt competition h-bar shot at Lefty first time hundred yards I hit the target every time

@makman1962 Spot on on the twist rate...I find that the 1 in 9 is best for my needs...Thanks and God bless...

You mentioned that the M16A2 has a heavier barrel. Does it have a fuller profile (larger diameter and thickness) throughout in comparison to the M4?

Great video sootch00

That appears to be a stock A4 minus the bayonet lug. Love the A4!!!

Love this rifle, I had the Colt A2 with the fixed handle and bayonet lug. It's a pre-ban here in Kalifornia and I lost it in a boating accident. :)

How do you remove the pivot screw if you want to separate the upper and lower receivers?

I thought the H2 had a fixed carry handle/sight and the H3 had a flat top with removable carry handle/sight?

When I was in the reserves we were using the Diameco (now Colt Canada) C7A1 20 inch barrel and full stock so I think i'd want this style AR over an M4 style. Can you still get these with a bayonet lug? I know Rock River still makes an M16A2 style rifle not sure if they are a 1:7 or 1:9 twist though. Sootch do you own this rifle? If so how do you like it compared to the M4 style? Even today the Canadian Army uses this style 20" with a triad rail and an adjustable stock.

I love my Colt AR15-A2 and its 20" barrel. 400 m hits on a range target is no problem . In fact I am consistant with getting a solid grouping under 8" diameter with Iron sights

Hey Don, do you know the brand of that gas block flip up sight?

Great rifle I have a mark one best ar15 I've ever had.

It looks beautifull

All time favorite. I always prefer AR15 in the classic configuration. Love the 20" barrel for maximum effectiveness for the 5,56/.223 round. Sootch00, please do a review on the ARMALITE AR15A2.

@mariotorresjr5177

4 жыл бұрын

Nice review on the colt H Bar AR-15, it's cool to see this old school rifle being reviewed , I also have a colt Ar-15 but without The heavy barrel, I believe you have the target model, love my honey had her since 1985 USMC 1974-76

Do you like your carbine versions better than full length?

@jrmym2 More time spent in barrel is typical more time spent accelerating to muzzle velocity, right?

How far out we had five years imagine how much we will come in fine more

What Does a Colt A2 Sporter Hbar go for now a days?

Does the H BAR have a govt. profile barrel, or is it about the same thickness all the way?

Is the front sight A2 or F-marked FSB?

He's so still, he looks like a picture between every shot

That's not an a2 clone! It has an a2 delta ring & an a2 handguard, but an a1 triangle retaining cap. The main thing ur misinformed about is what an Hbar is. Hbar mean "heavy barrel", specifically used for match rifles. The a2 def had a thicker barrel, but at the top 6" (.750" diameter compared to the m16a1s .620" pencil barrel) to improve strength & reliability. Also, A2s di not have removable carry handles. m16a3s do. In fact, the removable carry handle mod is what changed the rifles classification to, a3! Then the addition of the KAC quad rail & removable carry handle changed the rifles classification to the m16a4 service rifle we know today. The only service rifle I know of with a 1:7 Hbar & meant for combat operations (not competition), is the SAM-R (Squad Advanced Marksman-Rifle). The heavy barrel w/tight twist rate stabilizes heavier match grade ammo & reduces barrel whip improving accuracy & are only Issued to Snipers & Squad Designated Marksmans. The rifle in ur video is basically an ar15 a3 clone, with a match Hbar prolly with a 1:9 twist ratio for 223 rem. & 55 grain NATO ammo.

Too slow you mean. 1/12 twist was too slow to stabilize the heavier bullets. I thought that the A2 had a fixed handguard? Also, I have a M4gery, BCM with a 16 inch 1/7 twist barrel that shoots accurately out to 700 yards with 77 gr bullets.

@89tonstar

8 жыл бұрын

+ung427 1/12 will stabilize everything up to about 62 grains.

@ung427

8 жыл бұрын

Richard Garnache You can kill with a .22 but at 700 yards I'd say a .308 would be better.

@ung427

8 жыл бұрын

Richard Garnache Not much.

@iroekyjHD

8 жыл бұрын

+ung427 part of the reason that the M4 isnt good at anything past 400M's is in my opinion because the M4 with that 14 inch barrel could never reach the same speeds the M16A2's could. this makes you have to hold higher up because bullet drop would be much more apparent for an M4. not only that but studies in the 1960's concluded that the 5.56 became slightly unstable when used in a barrel shorter than 20 in unless it had a super strict groove twist rate.

@ung427

2 жыл бұрын

@@iroekyjHD 6 Years later, now I have a 20 inch again. Looks just like Sooch00's.

I notice that yours is missing the bayonet lug. Is there anyway to replace the sight post if I were to get one? I want the option for a bayonet

@pulaski789

9 жыл бұрын

Yup, just gotta replace the front post/gas block and replace it with a front sight post with the lug.

I want one just like that!!

Will a Vietnam era style hand guard fit this ?

What do think of the A2 H Bar rifle of a SHTF Survival firearm?Would It be a good choice?

@lolwutyoumad

5 жыл бұрын

You get the most out of the AR platform, sure it is heavier than alot of AR's nowadays, it isn't heavier than the rifles that came before it and those were carried by people who did not eat as well, knew less about fitness than and they did it just fine

@2thewilderness

4 жыл бұрын

Add a .22LR conversion kit when you want to hunt small game and you're doing great.

@crashoverride4881

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah they're great for when the s*** hits the fan, I own two pre ban AR-15 h-bar. They both shoot 3/8 of an inch at a hundred yards. In other words they tack Drive.

@NoGoBu

3 жыл бұрын

Hell yes, don't forget the bayonet, very useful to get the bad guy to move. ✌😎❤

@aaronbonatz9485

3 жыл бұрын

@@NoGoBu M9 Phrobis

EXCELENTE

Like the video . I love my "Banned" Colt Target Match HBAR Flat top. No flashhider though 87( It still shoots better then I do .

@Solareffects Cool man, I've got a buddy in town who's currently in the Marine Corps. He's stateside and doesn't get to shoot very often so we had a blast last weekend out with my AR.

Does that H-Bar have a polymer lower?

Is that the gun range in pickens county?

I have a M4 style with 16 inch barrel. What grain works best???

Does it have a detachable carry handle?

@DKtrecour might be i have a mil spec a2 by Armalite and it has a fixed carry handle so im a little confused??!!

Question is it safe to shoot 556 out😊

both .223 and 556 or just 223 mark?

Can you give me the exact model name of that les bear AR15?? I really want to buy that gun asking for a friend!!!

How can you tell what twist your barrel is?

I like the way the old Vietnam model looks for some reason. Maybe because all them 80s movies and don't forget V the TV show.