British history shows are sooo much better than what we get in the US! Much more into getting the actual truth😊

@randomvintagefilm273

2 жыл бұрын

Not true

@renatearneson7520

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same. Maybe it seems that way because their history goes back so much further.

@pup1008

3 ай бұрын

We've got a LOT more history!

@cyan1616

Ай бұрын

America only cares about profits, and knowledge and science is only acceptable if it provides profits.

I really enjoy forensics and forensic anthropology. Just wish this show went on longer than it did.

I remember watching this 4 years ago with interest, now that the comprehensive DNA study has been released, the fact that I'm closely related to one of those victims in particular makes this documentary even more eery.

@aksez2u

Жыл бұрын

What! How interesting! How did you find that out?

@SaxonYear410

Жыл бұрын

I was DNA tested for curiosity's sake many years ago. The paper which covers the Norwich well was released on 30th August, entitled "Genomes from a medieval mass burial show Ashkenazi-associated hereditary diseases pre-date the 12th century". Basically I have a double match with one of the skeletons on both parental lineages, which means I share a common ancestor or two with one of the victims. Most of those thrown down that well were very young, toddlers and babies with a couple of adults.

@aksez2u

Жыл бұрын

@@SaxonYear410 Very interesting and very sad. My brain can't process of the horrors that humans have inflicted upon each other.

@SaxonYear410

Жыл бұрын

​@@aksez2u What really stands out to me is how the children weren't spared, when Christians perpetrated massacres of Jews they would often forcibly baptise the children. 12th century England was a far cry from the polite and refined society it's stereotyped as today.

@aksez2u

Жыл бұрын

@@SaxonYear410 Maybe this is a clue that the deaths were caused by fire/smoke inhalation as speculated in the video? Many countries have barbaric histories. Hard to think about.

If I was on the Council in Norwich I would be placing a plaque close to the site of that well, to remember the dead. And to serve as a reminder that British history is just as tragic and just as brutal as it is in other countries. More so, because we have denied it for so long, sugar coated it and hidden it. We have yet to accept it and learn from those mistakes.

There are very few episodes of this series, I really would like to see more... It's very interesting!

@scottessery100

Жыл бұрын

It didn’t make enough money even though it’s amazing and dr black didn’t like filming a great deal

So sad there are so few episodes! I’ve watched them all 2-3 times already.

I wish they would do more of these specials: They are fabulous!

Absolutely fascinating....... this doc was done in a truly tremendous manner: informative, intriguing and humane. Whilst the outcome was sad I appreciate the content and what it brought to me. Well done.

What a great documentary. The science is amazing and it sometimes takes us in a direction that no one can ever expect.

As a Jew I suspected a pogrom from the outset. That was a period of terrible persecution in both the UK and the Continent, and the disrespect of the burial immediately suggested that the victims couldn't be Christian. I suspect they held the Jewish dimension back for dramatic purposes - but I'm impressed at the powerful and moving way they told the story. A great series!

@hatjodelka

Жыл бұрын

I saw this episode when it was first shown on TV. I too strongly suspected a pogrom but scientifically it wasn't provable, although likely. I think more likely than 'dramatic purposes' is that what we can discover from DNA has moved forward quite a lot since this programme was made eg they now know the hair and eye colour of one of the individuals. Dame Professor Sue Black has helped prosecute war crimes and has great integrity. I don't believe she would hold back the truth to make more compelling viewing.

This is so interesting I love watching history & learning all about it so keep up the good work

Greetings from Canada. Love this series. Thanks for posting!

jeepers, this series is a lot more grusome than what I bargained for. so interesting though. wish sometimes the name of some of those they interview was written underneath with their job title.

I work inside the Chapelfield centre, a couple of shops away from the well's location. We all have stories of strange things happening and most people think it's haunted 😅

@feralcat07

3 жыл бұрын

I'd haunt the place as well. If that happened to me

@cdd4248

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting!

Do they still do work like this? I hope so

Another job so we'll done .I fully enjoy your wonderful work . Please bring us more .

Why would you throw bodies into a well where you get your drinking water??

@SirThopas3

3 жыл бұрын

They explain in the video that the impact trauma the bones received after being dropped in likely meant that the well was dry. So, no one was drinking from that well anymore.

@Mare416

10 ай бұрын

They mention in the episode that one of the conspiracy theories that was used as justification for persecuting Jews was that Jews poisoned well water. The well they were thrown in was dry. I think it’s likely that the perpetrators throwing them down a dry well was symbolic, and intended to humiliate the victims even more.

I ran out of Time Team Episodes to watch but this show seems just as Good .

@suemount6042

5 жыл бұрын

Snap lol great isn’t it

@atheistpower5659

5 жыл бұрын

In my part of Canada our history stops at about 1780 so when I watch the British stuff it blows me away !

very very interesting ...........however...very very extremely upsetting......

I grew up happily as part of the only Jewish family in a small South Wales town. The problem with being Jewish is you never know how long the tolerance will last. Britain today is very different and I have lived in Israel for over thirty years. The problem is "going back where you came from" is also complicated as you aren't wanted there either. Every story has two sides and the media tend to choose one and not report the other in every field. The lack of real coverage and openess to different opinions seems to be leading to brain death.

@cdd4248

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting.

@sharn1982lizard

2 жыл бұрын

Israel looks like a stunning place my grandad spent a few years there. I was going through his photos. It led me to KZread some of the walks and tours and tours are lovely. Any suggestions for anywhere iv done all the main tours on here and a few off trail.

@liannebenn2097

2 жыл бұрын

@@sharn1982lizard Sorry not really as I am too bogged down with my dogs to travel much.

i have never understood why the jewish community has been persecuted. i am sad to see that it went way back

I really love watching these. From Texas USA would you guys make more and put them on? Thank you Blessings

This make me cry may they Restin Peace

I think the History Cold Case series is exceptional, a sort of 'Silent Witness' in the middle ages, if you will. Many thanks, @Banjay History for uploading!

Interesting series.

Very much worth the watching I just love these episodes 👍👍👍😊😊😊♥️♥️♥️

This one got to me. R.I.P to them all ☹️

@lorraine9242

Жыл бұрын

Me too, Rena.

Poor people :(

I hope the sooner rather than later buried them all together (family grave) with the technology we have with 3D printers if they wanted to display remains they can use a 3D printer and then give the remains the burial the deserve. I think these people more than deserve a final resting place together with respect.

@Tiger89Lilly

3 жыл бұрын

I think this was filmed around 2007 when 3d printing wasn't as much as a thing

@shelliebob100

2 жыл бұрын

I believe the Jewish community in the city gave them a proper Jewish burial x

Dame-ship for sue black.

This is how it was back then.. they mistreated their own .. life was worth nothing... great program love it 🇦🇺

This is horrifying. I have a tiny bit of European Jewish ancestry and sometimes I worry that things like this might have happened to them.

The Jewish historian looked so sad at the end. 😔

I hope they get a propet burial now

Can you do a history Cold Case of the two Prince in the tower the sons of king Edward iv and Queen Elizabeth Woodville please I really appreciate it cuz I really want to know what happened to the two Prince in the tower.

@RhosynGwyn

2 жыл бұрын

They can't do a cold case on the bodies found as the Queen won't allow the bodies exhumed

@Lilita971

Жыл бұрын

That would be interesting

cemetery and mall. How odd.

Wow 17 people

Murder, most degrading and repulsive.

The real life Dr. Bones #Bones #Brennan

@Tiger89Lilly

3 жыл бұрын

Oooh don't call her that. There's a video on KZread where she slates Bones. I think it's the one of her and 3 other Scottish ladies of science. It's very interesting if you ever have an hour I recommend watching it.

Honestly I don't know why the comments shock me. The majority should be ashamed of yourselves. This was extremely interesting and very sad. Some of you psychopaths should have your computers taken away. RIP

@lorrieharkey3383

5 жыл бұрын

hiko73 I couldn’t agree with you more. I didn’t read any comments until after posting my own and was shocked at how crass and vulgar most are ..... why would someone watch a serious doc to then post such uniformed comments. I was glad to finally see yours.

@alexc6324

5 жыл бұрын

@@lorrieharkey3383 perhaps people post such comments because they believe that this video is not being honest and that an entire community is being smeared as racist based on a possible 30% dna of less that 30% of the possible victims of a possible misdeed. maybe that gets people asking questions and vocally expressing their distaste for this video. just a theory.

@shanna3148

3 жыл бұрын

hit dogs bark Almost sounds like you align with the murderers instead of the victims... therefore you feel like facts are an attack

@scottmckcfc8

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexc6324 The genes showing in 30% of Jews compared to 6% of Europeans does not equate to there being only a 30% chance they were jews. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. But then again, the ignorant are the most confident.

At 22:00 is she wearing those legendary cat skin gloves?

Please have those incredibly valuable parchment rolls of information photographed and saved to the cloud or something to make sure they are safe from fire or other destruction forever!

I believe they may have done the DNA of all that they could later. Would love to know where to find the results if anyone can point me there.

48:24 what is she saying? A dear in tears?

@jefffrancis3986

3 жыл бұрын

Think she’s saying “adherent ears’ - meaning that the earlobes are very small and attach directly to the head. It’s an inherited trait that is evidence that the two may have been related.

I don't know if power change was considered. Often in history when an area was conquered by a new power the old power family was often all killed. That would fit the situation. just like the situation with the last Russian Czar's family. we all know the story of "Anastasia." But it didn't always happen in rich or powerful family. And the well was handy.

@gratius1394

2 жыл бұрын

With all due respect, ma'am, you obviously know little about Medieval period. No non-Christian family, no matter how rich and influencial, would be ever granted any office in Christian kingdom. Most of them practiced their chosen trade whilst some could operate in "grey area" on courts of local Christian nobles or even, in few cases, hold some minor honorary positions like a cup bearer. Anything that would have gave them any kind of real authority over Christians was strictly forbidden. Similar rules are still enforced in more traditional Muslim societies to this day.

From the start I thought Irish, Catholics, Jews or Scots. Four of the Five things the English hated. Number five is the French.

@1969sdh

3 жыл бұрын

that's not true, you don't know what you are talking about

@RhosynGwyn

2 жыл бұрын

What no Welsh in there

@loganinkosovo

2 жыл бұрын

@@RhosynGwyn The English tolerated the Welsh because they needed bowmen. :)

What caused the holes in the skulls???

@SuperTonyony

5 жыл бұрын

I wondered that, too.

@nathalienathalie1829

4 жыл бұрын

Probably stiletto. Those family was murdered and bodies were hidden in dry well, so nobody will find them

@capie44

4 жыл бұрын

@@nathalienathalie1829 : Could be. But I wouldn't bet on stealth. The bodies would poison the water. More like village extermination.

anybody knows how I can get the Stature of decent of the male adult???

When this series was first shown - my other half and I used to wager on how long it would be before it turned out that the reconstructed face would have 'a very prominent nose'.

@SuperTonyony

5 жыл бұрын

Both Caucasians and Semites tend to have very prominent noses. What's your point?

@batintheattic7293

5 жыл бұрын

@@SuperTonyony - It was that it would emerge, at some point during every single reconstruction, that the person 'would have had a very prominent nose'. Doctor Caroline had a thing for prominent noses. It became a running joke in our household. Nothing to do with Semites and/or Caucasians. Every reconstruction had to have a big nose! At some point - Doctor Caroline would inevitably announce 'he/she has a very prominent nose''.

I thought she said "a deer in tears"

Not cats! :(

👍

Where are your Glover !

Why if deceased would that put them in the towns water supply?.

@Cheeseatingjunlista

5 жыл бұрын

Norwich, though still utterly backward and debased, even then probably had more then one well

@serina091975

5 жыл бұрын

They said because of the breaks it was a dried up well. No water to cushion the fall.

@ingloriousbetch4302

5 жыл бұрын

The show clearly states the well was dry

@LarryNathanielPhoto

4 жыл бұрын

Perhaps the surviving family members put it there to poison the well?

15:18 why aren't they wearing gloves while touching the old historical documents? Skin oils can destroy them over time.

@neconeconeco

3 жыл бұрын

Clean hands are considered safer than using gloves, as gloves can get caught on the pages and tear them, as well as transfer residue between pages.

I love History in all kinds and am now wondering why I never studies this subject in my Teens!! I have found that the Jewish Community arise in lots of different Historical Texts through world History and Always keep to their Community!!!!!

The result of the ROMAN Catholic Church promoting the narrative that Jews killed Jesus rather than the obvious perpetrators and despots of the day ... the Romans.

@keolas6916

9 ай бұрын

Technically it was both. The Jewish leadership turned Jesus over to the Romans who decided to execute him. And according to the New Testament the Jewish leadership accepted the responsibility of Jesus' death on the and their children. Great recipe for bigotry and persecution even though Jesus said to love one another.....

Regarding the bodies down the well, why are they focusing only on the Jewish skeletons and say nothing about the European skeletons? Did they test every one of the children or do they just assume that all the children were Jewish because they want to jump to the conclusion of racial discrimination? How many cat skeletons were found with these people? Were there a lot or only a few? What is the possibility that all of the adults and at least the older children were considered witches and as such were thrown down the well with their familiars?

@keolas6916

9 ай бұрын

Surprisingly the worst of the witch hunts/trials were not in the 1200s (Middle Ages) but in the 1600s (Renaissance). So while one body and cat might fit your theory, 17 is a bit too many.

Too many adverts. very frustrating spoils the video. One moment I'm in the 12th century, the next 21 c with a bang.

@zoe1599

5 жыл бұрын

moog Dome I didn’t get a single ad

@moogdome2562

5 жыл бұрын

Hi Zoe. I'm in England, don't know where you are, maybe different.

@libbyreesbarresi7459

5 жыл бұрын

@@moogdome2562 Im in Wales and had 2 adverts, no bigger. If you were watching this on ITV you would have had at least 4/5 adverts, and if it had been on any of the sky channels you would have had at least 8 adverts!!!!

I'm only 12 minutes in and as a history buff I can already tell that these poor people died in the English holocaust. The word holocaust was first used during the English one and that's where the word originated. It was called holocaustem

How morbid to have a mall next to a cemetery.

@leaho3731

2 жыл бұрын

It might seem so, but in many British towns/cities that developed over 1000 years ago (sometimes more), we have little choice! My home town of York is pretty small but is full of people. The city centre was founded by the Romans and people have lived on it consecutively ever since, so we've just had to keep building over and around things. This leads to churches and graveyards right next to very modern shops- it doesn't seem that weird when you grow up with it. 😁

Those were different times, women married young. My great Grandma married my Grandad she 16 and he 45.

@autumnnz1

3 жыл бұрын

My grandma 27, my grandad 16 thats just over 70 years ago. Different times definitely.

What was the DNA code?

Just where did they get their drinking water?

@SuperTonyony

5 жыл бұрын

That was my first question, but they said in the documentary that the well had dried up. They must've been using another source.

@gorillaguerillaDK

5 жыл бұрын

BUDDY LIGHT It was Norwich, they drank piss but called it ale....

I don't know why you would throw bodies down a well & contaminate a water source? We could certainly do without throwing children or anyone down a well...😕

The fact that i knew it was jewish people in the well the second they said it wasnt a christian burial and was done with disrespect says a lot

Why the shock particularly on the part of the Jewish historian to this event when another Jewish program was well recorded in l2th century Norwich re William of Norwich which didn't get mentioned once

@libbyreesbarresi7459

5 жыл бұрын

perhaps he/she didnt see that documentary when it was aired on TV!!!! 😂

I do not understand anti-semitism, i do not understand racism and bigotry. How pompous, how arrogant must a person be to deem another unworthy? And how very UN-Christ-like!

I can see mob mentality, lead by jealousy, envy and coveting are the perfect description of the leader of the mob.

I'm really shocked they didn't consider that the bodies could have belonged to a family of Roma. There's evidence that Jewish and Roma communities used to mingle, and that's the first thing I thought of when the DNA results came back as "mixed European" and part Jewish. And, as few will contest, the Roma are one of the most hated groups across the continent, and most certainly would not have been granted the dignity of a proper burial.

@Lilas.Duveteux

2 жыл бұрын

It would be anachronic since the Roma didn't arrive until a few centuries later.

@justtruth5855

Жыл бұрын

@@Lilas.Duveteux and the people named Jewish today came here around the 19th century.

@MrEVAQ

14 күн бұрын

@@justtruth5855 Yet the Norwich Jews were closely related to modern British Jews, and that is because the Norwich Jews came from mainland Europe, of the same stock modern British Jews come from.

Do we all need the CSI treatment to make history interesting? To the producers: It's a mass murder mystery. There's no need for the flashy edits and perfunctory drama. This is real, not a screenwriter's imaginary mass murder!

I see Claire's is no longer Cl@ire's!

@libbyreesbarresi7459

5 жыл бұрын

what?????

I think it's the earliest example of how many people can we fit in a phone booth

At least they didn't become lamp shades.

All accidentally

Why would make a mall in the middle of a cemetary

@KuptisOriginal

3 жыл бұрын

Right. It's like Brits don't care about their historical land and buildings.

@FuSiionCraft

3 жыл бұрын

@@KuptisOriginal *like they don't care about anything

@tgbluewolf

3 жыл бұрын

Heck here in the States I know if a cemetery that's in the crossroads of a three-way intersection! Developers are absolutely shameful.

@leaho3731

2 жыл бұрын

I already commented about this above, but it's really not that wild. If you live in a city centre with any history whatsoever in England, you could be living within an area that's been continuously inhabited for nearly 2000 years. My hometown of York was founded by the Romans and so is one of those ancient cities. People have always built on top of and around the things that came before and it usually is incorporated. For example, Medieval churches in my city (of which there are MANY) often were built partially using Anglian bricks and pieces of Roman tombstones. It's a rather ignorant and rude attitude to assume that we don't care about our history, when in fact we keep it close and keep it alive by using the buildings and public spaces. Graveyards are frequently used for picnicking and just a quiet escape by locals, not to mention the wildlife that gets green sanctuary in the centre of a city. They're pretty places that are usually enjoyed plenty by tourists, many of whom bemoan the lack of something similar at home. It's easy to place all your graveyards miles outside of town when you have the benefit of semi-modern city planning. Folks in the Early to High Medieval period didn't have that and so buried their dead in their local churchyards. The more the population grew, the more people did what they do and expanded, eventually building more homes and shops around the churchyards. 🤷‍♀️ It's not disrespectful for people to use their own city centre for it's intended purpose and it's nothing new either. Medieval folks wouldn't have been surprised or horrified that living people built shops nearby, as that is how they lived themselves.

I hate the music they play

which historian doesnt know about the jewish role in the middleages lending money? i learned this in very low grade at school Oo ... are these "doctors" actors or just bad acting their surprise? or whats the deal here?

@marleneg7794

5 жыл бұрын

I.e. Shylock

@wandapease-gi8yo

5 ай бұрын

This is the necessary background information for the many (particularly we Americans) who are fascinated with Cold Cases and CSI, Bones, etc. but ignorant of things in the medieval lives of people living in very different political times.

Is she really writing in the original document?

@janewiery1414

5 жыл бұрын

That's what I thought for a second but I think not

@ceciliah.8893

5 жыл бұрын

So many things wrong with her handling of the document that you’re not sure where to begin.

@erinp.420

5 жыл бұрын

They had a modern reconstruction of the original document. That’s what she wrote on.

If its so delicate why doesn't she have gloves on

The group reviewing the find at the concluding presentation seemed to forget that this murder occurred several hundred years ago and in a very different time and place. The virtue signalling going on was inappropriate and ahistorical.

@philroberts7238

3 жыл бұрын

No it wasn't. There are countless events in human history that are, quite rightly, shocking to us today and it is totally appropriate to express that shock. I'm pretty sure that the time and place of this event hadn't suddenly been forgotten. (Mind you, the use of that unpleasant term "virtue signalling" is itself a signal - usually that some rather unpleasant opinion is about be expressed. You show me my biases and I'll show you yours.)

@shanna3148

3 жыл бұрын

how dare those people... *checks notes* ... have a miniscule amount of empathy for a brutally murdered family. They should just not care about other people... like you I guess. Caring about other people for a minute is just dumb, ammaright?

Always the jews- why ? all through the ages - persecution -

@geoffreystuttle8080

5 жыл бұрын

Gotta wonder, huh?

@bluesira

5 жыл бұрын

Judaism does not prohibit money-lending, as Christianity does. So when Christian sources of money and capital dried up, the Jewish people in the community came forward to fill the needs for loans. But of course, this made people resentful when they were unable to pay back their debts. People demanded the services of money-lending, but then persecuted the money-lenders. And for Christian churches, this was infuriating because their dogma barred them from making profits in this area, giving more control, wealth, and power to Jewish leaders, which was very threatening to them. So in either case it seems that people demanded that Jewish people fill these roles and then condemned them for the consequences of placing them in said roles. Pretty despicable.

@johngeorge9865

5 жыл бұрын

The Jews killed jesus

@SuperTonyony

5 жыл бұрын

@@johngeorge9865 The Jews asked the Romans to kill Jesus, and they agreed to do so.

@johngeorge9865

5 жыл бұрын

The Romans’ washed their hands of the affair although the roman soldiers crucified him it was the Jews who wanted it. Remember Jesus was a Jew.

I think it was a cannibalistic butcher living in the village...

@libbyreesbarresi7459

5 жыл бұрын

idiot......wonder how you would react if one of your loved ones was chucked down a well and a similar comment was made?!

I guess children aren't people. Should have said 28 people. Not counting the kids is driving crazy. It's just so disrespectful!!!

@KuptisOriginal

3 жыл бұрын

Where did you get 28? At 3:21 they said it's thought that there are 6 adults and 11 children which makes 17. Also, they mention the children a lot during the video.

The Plantaget royals forced the Brits to speak French. They had their favorites who also spoke an alien language; the Hebrews. While the Brits starved and froze at the bottom of the society, the oppressors had a posh life. That started the Angland for Anglish campaign. Very sad time for everyone, Iam sure the Brits were crazy with hunger

I understand they may have killed themselves but was it the Christian's that put them in the well?

Roman Catholicism has got nothing to do with biblical Christianity.

@tgbluewolf

3 жыл бұрын

Neither does some random man-made church from the 1500s or later. Where do you even think the Bible came from? A unified Church sorted out the legit texts from the forgeries and unnecessary writings--and before the 1500s there was just the Orthodox, Catholicism and various heresies. Try reading Scott Hahn, Patrick Madrid, Marcus Grodi or Trent Horn, just for starters, for a different p.o.v. (Interesting that your bio quotes Romans 10:9-13 yet you make a distinction between Catholics versus "Bible-based" Christians...)

@scottmckcfc8

2 жыл бұрын

You just got owned. Love it when the bigoted ignorant get shown-up by someone will actual knowledge.

@user-bo8nb2mi

Жыл бұрын

Tell it to the victims