I wish the TV companies would bring such programmes back, far more interesting than the Kardashians

@KellyBurnett138

Күн бұрын

IKR!

I love the fact that they humanise these people again, instead of treating them as mere skeletons. What a terribly sad story though, for one so young! Fascinating series!

i like to think that the ghosts of these unknown people get some relief and rest when their stories are told and they're remembered.

@lollipop7458

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! No doubt why it’s done.

@markuschampos5750

2 жыл бұрын

They don't. They are dead.

@Ellen-hs7zb

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking, no privacy, even in death.

@willasyn3136

2 жыл бұрын

I certainly would! If something happened to me, I would want my story to be told

@thedude8046

26 күн бұрын

Yes but these people just make things up to fit their narrative.

One of my ancestors was a girl from this region of London. As a 11 yo child she was sentenced to be hanged because she robbed a rich girl to try and feed herself. Later, she was fortunate to have her sentence commuted to enslavement and transportation to Australia. The ship she sailed on was called the lady Julianna and was referred to as the floating brothel. The women on board were pimped by the captain in every port they came to. The journey took a very long time because of these frequent stops at so many ports. The point is that the poor were only downtrodden because of the machinations of the rich, who wanted a class of unfortunates so as to exploit and abuse. The irony is that nearly all of the women sent to Australia on the lady Julianna ended up doing very well for themselves. There were more opportunities in Australia for the lower classes than in the English homeland. It is awful to hear of the life of this unfortunate young woman. Just another tragic victim of the brutal control the rich perpetuated over the poor.

@Cassxowary

4 жыл бұрын

So true and I’ve seen a documentary about it/about Mary Wade, they interviewed descendants and such too, great watch if you’re interested! But indeed! I’m just glad they got a way out of that situation despite all the bad involved!

@shirleysavitts9647

3 жыл бұрын

@@Cassxowary I have the CD about Mary Wade, unbelievable cruelty starvations and her ultra bravery to escape.

@IwasBlueb4

3 жыл бұрын

Im glad she was taken to Australia

@janetdonald9801

3 жыл бұрын

Paul Rudd I feel,like the rich are getting richer, homelessness is exploding and we are heading into times of greater inequalities again. 😓

@gullwingstorm857

3 жыл бұрын

Rev. Matt Ripper At least we don’t have a cringeworthy nutjob like Justin Blackface Trudeau leading us and doing his manic Bollywood dances.

It makes me weep, my aunt died of syphilis, she married a man who didn't tell her that he had it. He had antibiotics but my aunt was very poor. 😭 I weep for my aunt and for these women.

@Ptinski

Жыл бұрын

I'm so sorry your aunt had to endure the deception, though it's not unusual for people to keep their genital condition secret. So sad.

@clioflano421

Жыл бұрын

What do you mean he had antibiotics???

@myunknownland9272

Жыл бұрын

@@clioflano421 in Europe, maybe that's what they thought it was. I don't have it so no idea what the exact name was. I doubt it would help being overseas.

@Ptinski

Жыл бұрын

@@clioflano421 They're used to treat many venereal diseases but it's not a cure.

@clioflano421

Жыл бұрын

@@Ptinski thank you for that info

Elizabeth would be so grateful to Sue and the others for their work.

I wish they’d bring this back such an interesting series

@reimagine207

5 жыл бұрын

crazzi-j north AGREED. Start a new series of them. It’s fabulous! C’mon somebody rich do it please!!

@amberkelly3187

5 жыл бұрын

Definitely. The best of this sort of series I have seen. I like all the team and it’s interesting that they are all women for once.

@katziebob

5 жыл бұрын

Sue hated doing it. It made her very uncomfortable to have to mold her scientific work to what TV producers wanted. That is why she wouldn’t do it any more. Sad!

@deborahbrennan4432

5 жыл бұрын

@@katziebob Oh, I never knew that. Thanks for telling.

@Dquenen

5 жыл бұрын

Was just thinking that. I love being able to see faces that would otherwise be lost to time.

Sometimes it's an interesting and humbling exercise to watch a programme like this to put into context just how lucky I am. That poor kid never had a chance at a happy life. My woes look very insignificant by comparison.

@donnaspear8494

5 жыл бұрын

Well said. I feel the same.

@DarialKuznetsova

5 жыл бұрын

+Nevets Mahrnirtle Yeah, puts things in perspective, definitely.

@macnutz4206

5 жыл бұрын

It has the same effect on me. Relative to many, my circumstances really suck, but relative to the people in those slums, at that time, I am rich and comfortable with some real sense of security. Living in a country with pension plans and universal health care, I am wealthy compared to the girl that is the focus of this video. She and so very many others like her, never had a chance at a normal life. You can see something similar in the USA, with its large deep every growing pockets of second world type poverty, where people work two or three slave wage jobs and live in their cars with their kids. When the UN poverty commission visited the States for the first time, a couple of years ago, they were shocked at the depth of poverty in some areas of America, comparing those areas to developing second world countries. I have talked to soldiers that spent a lot of time in Afghanistan, who say that many children in America live in more terrible conditions than in some of the poorest areas of Afghanistan.

@judithwoodburn2353

5 жыл бұрын

LI .B what a strange thing to say. All victims of poverty, wherever they live , or lived , do not, or did not deserve such suffering. They are victims of circumstance. It is a cold, hard heart that wishes this fate on anyone.

@bgmaple47232

5 жыл бұрын

@LI .B Come on over and be a part of the increase.

I am so happy she made her face without syfilis as well ♥️ that made me happy to see her as an individual and not as a disease.

@Cassxowary

5 жыл бұрын

Bubblegum syphillis* but agreed.

@lorawiese5897

3 жыл бұрын

I agree, I love the way they humanized her and showed respect.

@ulalaFrugilega

3 жыл бұрын

I actually found her much more believable as well sort of prettier with the syphilis.

@rhyfelwrDuw

3 жыл бұрын

I'm glad they did that as well!

@susanh695

2 жыл бұрын

Amazing possibility that name is the poor girl identified. Also glad her face was also reconstructed without syphilis.

This episode makes me very sad for this young girl. She didn't have a chance in this life 😢. I am glad her skeleton was found to tell her story of the hard life she had. I am sure at the time she was on this earth nobody cared about her. She is cared about, appreciated, and loved now for the hard life she had to endure. I hope to meet her in the next life and give her a big hug and let her know she has as much worth, maybe more than the rest of us. ❤️❤️❤️

@TheNinnyfee

Жыл бұрын

She was also smart if she was pretty poor but still managed to procure regular meds for her syphilis. She deserved so much better. Prostitutes were lookdd down upon by other women, too, and still are. But in the end it's just the patriarchal system dividing women against each other by a pseudo-moral system.

@annebrennan1371

Жыл бұрын

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@annebrennan1371

Жыл бұрын

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@widowrumstrypze9705

Жыл бұрын

@@TheNinnyfee When I was 14, within a *week* of becoming sexually active, I took MYSELF to Planned Parenthood and got myself on the pill, and obtained condoms. It was 1985! (When PP got defunded, and I couldn't even get condoms they gave away at herself exchanges, I got pregnant at 21! I wish the morning after pill had bern available, but had an abortion, instead. AWFUL experience, but I became a very responsible adult and parent forever after. Safe abortions will always exist for RICH PEOPLE'S daughters, but poor girls? Ugh. I hate that the world has gone backwards!)

@trollmeistergeneral3467

Жыл бұрын

@JoDeePS You are a 100%, stark raving loon. Completely bonkers. Get help. Quick.

I am so pleased that her identity was discovered, and that this formerly anonymous child/woman was given the dignity of recognition. Perhaps it was ultimately a mercy that she succumbed to pneumonia, rather than syphilis. What a tragic life, emblematic of the many.

@tiffanyclark-grove1989

Жыл бұрын

They have no idea who she was. After all that, they were still just guessing. She could've had syphilis from birth, not necessarily a prostitue even.

@gloriamontgomery6900

5 ай бұрын

Yes. What a tragic, painful, short life this poor girl had

Think it was a fantastic ending, showing her face without the disease. She, herself I think would've thanked you for doing that if she was here.

Dr. Black reiterates that EVERYONE has a STORY. Thanks, doctors.

@Cassxowary

4 жыл бұрын

Mary Nordseth you’d be surprised how many forget...

I can watch murder investigation shows and not bat an eye, not this. I'm honestly in tears. She was doomed before she started, at least she is known now. Sadly there were hundreds of thousands like her that will never be known.

@Cassxowary

5 жыл бұрын

Rachel Clark and still are and will be...

@IwasBlueb4

3 жыл бұрын

i wonder why this one made you cry

@777blazek

3 жыл бұрын

You have the same name as my sister! I was tapping the thumbs up 👍 button and noticed your name! She's a dentist in, Kansas. She, too finds these documentaries intriguing..because the teeth can explain so much.

@rachelclark7782

3 жыл бұрын

@@777blazek Thats neat. My maiden name is Rose.

@quickchris10

3 жыл бұрын

@@IwasBlueb4 Maybe you were just a bit lachrymose for some additional reason. Elisabeth's case is heartbreaking, but there are many such cases amongst the crime documentaries.

That is wonderful--That people in the 21st century established a memorial for those young women. I am sure they appreciate their existence being acknowledged.

@Cynnas

2 жыл бұрын

The dead appreciate it? You have evidence of some sort of existence after death?!

I think the comments about her "healed" appearance were cruel and disrespectful, especially the man saying she was homely. Any face we can bring back from the dead is beautiful. I just started binge watching these and noticed that has happened more than once. If you are going to disturb the rest of these poor people, handling, cutting and pulling pieces off of their mortal remains, to tell their often difficult and/or tragic stories, they deserve the utmost respect in all ways.

@steph7139

2 жыл бұрын

I’m glad someone noticed too. They showed so little empathy there.

@jurgleomm3013

2 жыл бұрын

Well said

@mazzaf7575

2 жыл бұрын

They are incredibly respectful in how they deal with bones and the compassion and empathy they show when finding out her story. They are also honest and there’s no point saying she was beautiful when she wasn’t. Science is fact, not fantasy.

@jurgleomm3013

2 жыл бұрын

@@mazzaf7575 beauty is subjective, not objective or science based. Commenting on appearance is gratuitous, unnecessary and adds nothing to the science at all.

@steph7139

2 жыл бұрын

@@jurgleomm3013 👏🏻

Caroline is a true artist. She gives these people back some of their dignity by letting us all know that as they are now we shall all be. I wonder if she has ever reconstructed a face of a person that had a portrait or photo made that she did not have access to and how close of a resemblance her reconstruction turned out to be. Thanks for this posting.

@soniamacdonald9193

2 жыл бұрын

Look up the discovery of Richard lll's skeleton, her reconstruction of his face is astonishingly close to the only known portrait of him.

@michaelburgess9707

2 жыл бұрын

@@soniamacdonald9193 Thank you, I have looked up the Richard III reconstruction and he looks just like the portrait you are referring to in the National portrait Gallery, but better.

What an amazing team these people are! I shed tears for many of your "cold cases". Like this young woman. I'm so sad for what her life must have been like. But I love that there is a place where you can gather to remember her and others like her. They should never be forgotten. Thank you.

Does anyone else want to go back in time and wrap this poor suffering girl in their arms and give her penicillin? Or is that just my mother’s heart?

@GeorgiaGeorgette

3 жыл бұрын

I do too. I wish I could help and comfort her.

@velvetindigonight

3 жыл бұрын

Or anyone with a heart.................. Victorian times when we ruled the world had the highest level of child prostitution ever........................ The rich definitely did not look after the poor..................... Think Castle Howard and compare that to this child woman's life................ Something deeply wrong with our society. Prostituion is not safe even now despite the English Collective of Prostitutes campaigning since the eighties.............. Equality don't make me laugh it is to profitable for those who do not care...........

@WyattRyeSway

3 жыл бұрын

I’m an 18 year old guy and I do. This poor girl.

@nyteshayde1197

3 жыл бұрын

My mother's heart is feeling the same.

@Miralee01

3 жыл бұрын

I shook with heartbreak thinking about the pain this poor child went thru. During that era though there would have been little compassion. I agree, I would give much to have gone back & gotten her modern help.

I cried you guys,are amazing. i have H.I.V. since 1989 stil in good health to be with my 2daughters and 6 grandkids. ,so happy im born in a Great scientific era. ,but so sad for Elizabeth i teach safe sex as a counselor, im fascinated with your work. i wonder how my great great a Ancestors ,and baby brother really died. Bless you all Fantastic Documentary

@thatonethisone5904

3 жыл бұрын

Hope you’re doing well

@rhyfelwrDuw

3 жыл бұрын

This is 2 years on from your comment and as the others have said - I too hope you are doing well!

Thank you for bringing her back to life and telling us her story. 💕

I can't imagine how awful Elizabeth's life must have been. Death for her must have been a release from the pain as well as the stigma and rape.

@Cassxowary

5 жыл бұрын

elsa1942 indeed, even though I bet she was literally deathly afraid she was going to hell because that’s what it was like...

@elsakristina2689

4 жыл бұрын

@@Cassxowary I hope she knows she doesn't have to be afraid anymore. There's nothing wrong with her morally and there never was, she just happened to have a horrible life and none of it was her fault. She must have cried every day.

@Cassxowary

4 жыл бұрын

elsa1942 agreed and well said

@elsakristina2689

4 жыл бұрын

@@Cassxowary yeah

@nancydroll6523

3 жыл бұрын

Slow and painful, poor little thing

I cried when I saw her face - she looks so young and sad.

So sad to think at 19 when mostly young women are just starting out this young woman’s life was ending due to the fact she was born into such a cruel world. Even sadder to think she contracted the disease a such a young age.

@MrDeadhead1952

5 жыл бұрын

It should be borne in mind that even by the 1890s average life expectancy was 42 years, somewhat less for women. Seen from that point of view this women was effectively a mature adult, this does not make the death any less tragic but it should be seen in its historical perspective rather than the view from over a 100 years later.

@Cassxowary

5 жыл бұрын

Also, age of consent was thirteen, and even by today’s standards she’s a legal adult and in her last year of teenagehood (which was a concept that started a century later)

@rhyfelwrDuw

3 жыл бұрын

@@Cassxowary Back in the Middle Ages, girls could marry at the age of 12 (I'm guessing the average age, even then, for the onset of puberty and child bearing), not sure if that age was for boys too, but I guess so!

@anneloving8405

2 жыл бұрын

The average age of puberty was later than it is today.16not unusual.

@ginmar8134

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrDeadhead1952 Nope. Nice try. The high infant mortality rate skews the numbers.

Oh these poor little children and grown ups may they all rest in peace bless you guys for finding them and giving them the respect they deserve

Such a tragic story for young Elizabeth. May she now be on a safer shore and in a greater light with peace in her soul.

This one just got to me; it was like she became part of my life and her name is in my brain. I never have forgotten her name. She died one hundred years before I was born. I thank the people who come to remember her and all the others that died and had no one. May you all rest a piece. And a great shout out for those who worked so hard to give her a name and a story that I shall never forget.

@berniehays9886

4 жыл бұрын

By the way it's Laureen Hays, not Bernie that wrote this comment

As someone who is majoring in forensic anthropology, its truly fascinating and scary how diseases are effect you all the way down to the bone as well as our social life's effecting our physical skeleton and teeth.

@katarzynamariamuszynska2811

3 ай бұрын

But you study forensic anthropology, is that really possible to figure out ,find out from just bones or skull?

Interesting that the crossbones graveyard has become a bit of a shrine. A place to remember the forgotten.

This was a truly captivating documentary! I was so intrigued that i didnt want it to end. What a remarkable effort by all involed!

Love your work Professor Sue Black.

This show is fantastic ! I think the face is pretty, you have to remember that an animated face is quite different. I like to imagine her smiling. Thank you so much for these videos.

Thank you for bringing this back to KZread! Such a sad life. As a poor person with chronic disease since childhood, I am so lucky and grateful for modern medicine.

@Cassxowary

4 жыл бұрын

Anna B. There is even more advanced yet older medicine that works too!

This program was so great it solved a missing person in my family history, her brother married the niece of my great uncles's wife all that is missing now is where are her bones, also Robin Mitchell was in my class in high school, Elizabeth Mitchell's mother was Elizabeth Robins. The final composition of what she looked like was just like Robin Mitchell

@RM-ti8nf

Жыл бұрын

Wow, that's so cool to find out! Did you know the financial status or employment of her parents or prior geographical location? I was hoping that the program might search census records for more background info...

@kellylouisebrown4954

Жыл бұрын

Wow. That's amazing. Wonder if they contacted the tv show.

The only negative thing I can say about this show is there aren't enough episodes. I would love to see more.

Thank you for posting, this episode wasn’t available on KZread previously. What an excellent series, I’d like to see it return

@rhyfelwrDuw

3 жыл бұрын

Me too!

This made me cry. I was sexually abused for years. Thank goodness I didn't get dead .

@semantick

5 жыл бұрын

hell yeah brother. hope you're doing better now, sorry you had to live through that.

@gerardmartin6353

5 жыл бұрын

michelle contreras . Thanks Michelle. I was lucky. But it marred my life. Still coping. 😊☘🇮🇪☘

@cruisepaige

3 жыл бұрын

gerard martin Don’t give up on healing, Gerard! You’re a survivor, buddy! 💪🏼💕 A Champion!!!

@inkyguy

3 жыл бұрын

😢

@tired_buthappy

3 жыл бұрын

I’m so sorry that happened to you. I’m glad you’re not dead too.

Heartbreaking but fascinating story. Excellent work! Love this channel!!

Poor woman. Such a hard life, and if the reconstruction is accurate, then you can see it in her face just how hard life hit her. May she have a peaceful afterlife.

@mikalabaker6110

Жыл бұрын

She perfect now, on the Otherside.

That woman is amazing. She has discovered that everyone has a unique system of blood vessels and used this to try and help a child sexually abused by her father. Sadly the technology was too new for the jury to be convinced and the father was let off to repeat his crime on his 13 yr old daughter! The sooner we realise and publicise this unique discovery, the better.

@annab.5724

5 жыл бұрын

Do you please have any links or more info about the case / science? Very sad the father didn't get his. Unfortunately, the public didn't believe fingerprints were unique and unchanging for quite awhile after scientists first made that discovery. Now it's common knowledge. If the science is true, it will eventually prevail.

@carysfaerie

3 жыл бұрын

Oh you mean in photographs or videos of abuse- yes..I saw a piece on that, I’ll try to find it

@pommiebears

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. She could map the veins, like fingerprints. As we all have our own individual map of veins, it was a champion way to go. It’s unbelievable that people couldn’t understand how unique we really are.

@pommiebears

3 жыл бұрын

@@annab.5724 right. They used to believe that the last thing the eye saw would be imprinted on the retina. But....wouldn’t believe fingerprints were unique.

Amazing research to a logical conclusion. What a tragic underbelly of London this reveals This young woman must have endured such pain and sorrow from the earliest of age. It is an amazing and sad remembrance of a life that would have otherwise been forgotten.

R.I.P. Elizabeth Mitchell

@nunyabuisness7552

3 жыл бұрын

That name is very unlikely accurate because they had very strong evidence the girl was no older than 13. They kept lowering her age and at the end just ignored that fact. The science placing her body at such a young age is far superior to the name Elizabeth who was aged 19.......

@carolchandler8992

3 жыл бұрын

@@nunyabuisness7552 they never said she was 13. They said she was probably 13 or younger when she contracted syphilis. Her age was estimated to be 17-19.

@katerinakemp5701

2 жыл бұрын

@@carolchandler8992 lol some people just dont listen do they.

Makes me want to cry. In some ways we have come so far. For the majority of us a young teen being in this situation is horrific and yet how many times do people still comment about young teens nowadays and how if they are sexually active its their own fault. There is a reason children (including teens) cannot consent.

@EmilyGloeggler7984

5 жыл бұрын

The truth is that there are some young people who DO consent to such contact. However, most cases of pedophilia are not consentual. Either way, this girl is a tragic reminder of it.

@amberkelly3187

5 жыл бұрын

No, sorry. We have an age of consent for the reason that we are not mature enough, our brains etc are not developed enough to give consent. Therefore a child can NEVER consent. It doesn’t matter if they say yes. You must have the understanding to consent and they do not have it. Just like an insane person cannot consent because their reasoning is affected.

@Ripleys_mom

5 жыл бұрын

We've come so far yet we as humans are the same beasts that were thrown out of the garden

@Cassxowary

5 жыл бұрын

Nineteen is the last year of teenagehood, a concept that didn’t exist for another century, but still, agreed.

@Cassxowary

5 жыл бұрын

Emily Greene this isn’t paedophilia though, she’s nineteen, which is the last year of teenagehood (a concept that didn’t exist until a century later), and an adult, especially by those days’ standards. It’s eighteen now but thirteen then! But otherwise agreed...

Love these shows! Thank you to Lawrence Fox for the great narration. However, I’m so very grateful I did not live in the 1800s England. I don’t know if Canada was that much better in the cities if you were born poor. I imagine winters here killed a great number of the poor. In the cities, wood would not have been very easy to come buy. Man I’m happy I was born in 1951 in Winnipeg, Manitoba and lived on a farm with meat and vegetables available with hard work put in by my parents and all the 7 siblings. 🙏🏻🙏🏾🙏🏻🇨🇦❤️✝️🕎

@samdrummond7179

Жыл бұрын

I thought that was Lawrence Fox narrating. I was mostly listening, so did not take much notice of list of “cast members”.

The tributes left on the gates of the cemetery made me cry...how sweet of those ppl to research and pay homage to the misfortunate ladies of those days 😪

How truly sad that people prey on children like an animal would prey on a meal. Sickens me. I am glad that they are remembered.

Forensics and detective work to bring history to life. This is phenomenal. What would it take to bring about the return of this informative, teaching that is so interesting.

Life was hell for the poor in Victorian England, real hell on earth. This unfortunate girl's story was terribly common, at the time. Given the advanced state of the disease at time of her early demise, she must have contracted the disease very young. Similar sad stories are still happening in many places in the world. Poverty is a killer.

@EmilyGloeggler7984

5 жыл бұрын

It is not necessarily poverty but it is evident that this girl is a victim of sexual contact at a young age - i.e - pedophilia.

@macnutz4206

5 жыл бұрын

@@EmilyGloeggler7984 You absolutely can not remove poverty from this equation. There are a lot of good videos on Yt about the reality of life in Victorian England and the relationship between poverty and disease and high mortality rates, due very specifically to poverty. That is why the girl had sexual contact at such an early age. It was very common that girls in the huge slums were engaging in prostitution. It was about staying alive, in terrible circumstances, from day to day. If you look into it, you will see what I mean.

@stephengent9974

5 жыл бұрын

It is more a case of it remaining untreated. Did you know Henry VIII and Elizabeth I had congenital syphillis. Nothing to do with poverty or even sexual activity. They were born with it.

@macnutz4206

5 жыл бұрын

@@stephengent9974 So?? syphilis affected all classes and there were no effective treatments. Teen aged girls effected with the disease were almost exclusively living in extreme poverty. Exactly why you guys want to take the severe poverty issue out of this is difficult to understand. I think you do not know much about Victorian England and the massive disease and other problems created by the very large heavily populated areas of extreme poverty in the cities. Upper class people with the disease got it from poor prostitutes and then gave it to their wives. This girl was a victim of poverty. To try to deny that is very weird. What motivates that?? The poverty and terrible living conditions of so many in Victorian London, effected every thing around them. There are literally thousands of girls like this one, in unknown graves from that era. All victims of extreme poverty

@genli5603

5 жыл бұрын

Girls were attracted to prostitution because it paid incredibly well-until syphilis ate your face. Your average young street walker was dressing in very expensive clothes and pulled in 2-7 times what a skilled top-rung male blue collar worker could manage. She made FAR more that any ladylike employment, such as a nurse, teacher, governess, piano teacher, etc. Blaming poverty for girls choosing prostitution is like blaming poverty for girls becoming strippers and escorts now. It outraged society because only the girls’ behavior distinguished a well dressed lady from a whore, at a time when such a lady’s dress would cost as much as a governess made in a year. The alcoholic women who turned tricks for drinking money were the meth whores of the 1800s. Entirely a different group.

Quite a sad life, being starving, disfigured, treated like dirt, probably raped and traumatized. Her face seems deeply sad.

It's so nice that they hold a vigil for the paupers at Crossguns. Such an honest and thoughtful thing 💜

The wave of disappointment that came crashing over the room when her face was shown is unbelievable.

@giangstr

4 жыл бұрын

I thought she was really pretty. Not sure why they were disappointed.

@vanessasmith4637

4 жыл бұрын

She just looks like a man in a wig...

@QuietBloom

4 жыл бұрын

No. The Victorian Era really wasn’t very romantic was it?

@Cassxowary

4 жыл бұрын

Vanessa Smith she did not

@Cassxowary

4 жыл бұрын

Everyone is beautiful but perhaps it’s due to the lesions and such

This series is really interesting and informative. I'm sorry it's not still running.

@Cassxowary

4 жыл бұрын

Marcia Sue Black didn’t want to do it, Xante lives in Australia... but with others perhaps

Starting at 24.22 Xanthe has her red vest top on backwards bless her lol. Love this show!

@user-sx9jh2bb8s

3 жыл бұрын

Thank goodness I'm not the only one who noticed!😂

@JulieWallis1963

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe that’s the way she prefers it. Possibly a higher cut neckline by wearing it reversed. It’s *not* wrong, it’s just different to how you’d choose.

@molybdomancer195

23 күн бұрын

I think it was because of the segment where she was looking at the archival materials. Either the top was too low cut when filmed from the front or it might have been to hide the Nike swoosh in that segment

I love how all involved has such immense dignity and compassion.🤗🤗🤗🤗💛💛💛💛💛💖

So nice to see her as a person, instead of the disease that she couldn't escape due to her era and circumstances

Thank you for treating all of the people you find with respect

This show should totally come back

A sad story about a young girl with a sad life.

This poor baby. My heart hurts for her.

Thank you to the Reel Truth History team for their dedicated efforts in telling the story of this young woman. I found myself crying when both her disfigured face and her ‘normal’ face were revealed. To have been in such desperate need of just the simple necessities of life, caught me appreciating the things I take for granted. May you finally Rest In Peace!

Beautifully narrated

A vile disease. A terrible time to be poor and abused. Quite sad.

@elsakristina2689

5 жыл бұрын

No one gave a rat about this girl in life and I can't imagine how alone she must have felt. She probably would have felt comforted to die but scared for her soul too because the society at the time would have made her believe it was her fault she was sick because of how the disease comes about.

@Cassxowary

5 жыл бұрын

Jo S indeed but who’s said about being abused?

@jasminecollins897

5 жыл бұрын

@@Cassxowary Sex work back then basically guaranteed abuse.

@juanitarichards1074

4 жыл бұрын

@@Cassxowary She was a child when she contracted syphilis.......poor wee girl.

@windwoman3549

4 жыл бұрын

Herta Schneider Victorian London. A dirt-poor girl with untreated syphillus barely existing in a “filthy slum.” She died very young, her STD in an advanced state . . . and you want to parse the definition of “abuse.” I’m sorry, but could you be any more OBTUSE?

So very sad and beautiful to have a name and history. You all are so amazing to put this all together! Thank you so very much.

As a mom this hit me hard. Knowing her age and the trouble she went through hit home. I never had a virus like this but I was abused like her and lived a hard life too.

@jturtle5318

3 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry you went through that. How are you doing now?

@katisclean

3 жыл бұрын

@@jturtle5318 still struggling with self harm but I work on myself every day. I wouldn't trade being a mom for anything not even the world.

@rgb188

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine adding starving to that.

I love history and watching what you do is just absolutely amazing

This girl's story is heartbreaking to say the least.

@missasinenomine

3 жыл бұрын

Millions died in infancy.

@sun162345

2 жыл бұрын

@@missasinenomine at least they died quick

I can't recall a time when I was so moved by the unearthing of this young woman's story. how absolutely tragic and I'm not even through the whole video

Thank you so much for sharing this.

So sad. Dead at 19 years. It breaks my heart...

My hearing is shot so is my spine. I looked up the names of the team because I couldn’t hear Xanthe, now I know. Incredible team. Incredible

What a tragic life. RIP Elizabeth. 💙

Very sad about this young girl’s lost future. So happy you found her!

This series is amazing.

I have enjoyed this series with fascination. History, science and brilliant researchers

The moment I saw the pit markings in the bones, I knew it was going to be someone afflicted with syphilis. Horrific way to die.

@kathhall8129

3 жыл бұрын

She actually died of Pneumonia.

Thanks SO much! I've just discovered this series..phenomenal! Such a bittersweet episode, how it must inevitably affect them in an emotional way as human beings....but stands as evidence that ALL and EACH of our lives has worth and value.I can't stop watching all of them!

It's pretty crazy to think that such a destructive, painful, disease (syphilis) was killing people back then, when today it's cured with a few doses of penicillin. Sadly enough if the disease didn't kill you, the treatments definitely would've!

@EmilyGloeggler7984

5 жыл бұрын

It is still here today - people don't realize that syphillis has not gone away anymore than the plague has. Both are still around, lurking in the background.

@MrDeadhead1952

5 жыл бұрын

@@EmilyGloeggler7984 And what's worse is that antibiotic-resistant strains are emerging as a result of the misuse of antibiotics by the agro-industry as growth enhancers.

@genli5603

5 жыл бұрын

It used to be much more virulent and deadly. Even before the rise of antibiotics, it became much less deadly by the 1900s. In the 1940s, 30% of black draftees in the US were infected with syphilis and had to be treated before they could fight. But they weren’t walking around with holes in their faces. We don’t know why it became less virulent.

@libbyreesbarresi7459

5 жыл бұрын

@@MrDeadhead1952 and dont forget Doctors are still giving in to demanding patients who think antibiotics cures everything including the common cold! Rather than go to the chemist and get something over the counter to relieve symptoms they hound the GPs

@Cassxowary

5 жыл бұрын

Libby Rees right, because there’s no natural healthy cures, you NEED antibiotics chemicals for any small thing...

Beats all the CSI seasons any day…amazing and addictive!

I love this team; I’ve watched them for years & find them so professional & respectful. Brilliant!

Fascinating and very educational. Interesting hearing Bath mentioned my home town.

Tragically sad this one, poor baby girl. Never having had a chance at a decent life nor anyone caring. May she now rest in eternal peace. 💜

The Cross Bones graveyard comes about because the bishop of london considered that prostitutes were unfit to be interred in consecrated ground. No matter that while living they worked in his brothels and paid him rent. They would not be going to heaven. These brothels did not go away when the reformation came. They just had different owners. So the graveyard continued as it always had. Burial space was always at a premium in london and it looks like Cross Bones became the resting place for paupers of all kinds.

@jenniferholden9397

4 жыл бұрын

So why aren't the people who "use" prostitutes held to the same standard? It takes two.

@JulieWallis1963

3 жыл бұрын

So typical of the hypocrisy of the church! I’m willing to bet my soul that the bishop was a frequent attendee of the brothels and regularly beat or buggered children.

@jandrews6254

3 жыл бұрын

julie Wallis not much has changed

@AudraBurgess

3 жыл бұрын

@@jenniferholden9397 because men are rarely held accountable

@Cynnas

2 жыл бұрын

@@jenniferholden9397 🤣

What a fascinating documentary. We need more like this, from such amazing professionals. Cheers, and wishes for more from an American archaeologist.

Being “disappointed” by her face is so disrespectful. Calling her “homely” is disgusting. Especially after holding her bones and studying her life, it’s horrific how they seem to lose sympathy for her once her face is revealed.

@iadorenewyork1

3 жыл бұрын

She seems attractive to me. It is too bad she contracted syphilis and had such a hard life.

@rebeccafionacornel6558

3 жыл бұрын

@@iadorenewyork1 true......

@stillmagic714

3 жыл бұрын

I think that any comment on her looks would feel uncomfortable because of how she was so used and objectified in life and at such a young age. Any comment basing her value on her body just feels so wrong, like a continuation of the abuse she had to endure.

@alphabasky

3 жыл бұрын

@@stillmagic714 I totally agree. It’s wonderful that we get to see her face, but we don’t have to comment on the aesthetics of it. It just felt so exploitative

@camerachica73

3 жыл бұрын

I agree, I thought it was really rude. They had no idea what her nose looked like, so gave her the most unfeatured, brick like nose possible and then referred to her as homely. I thought she had a sweet face.

Such a bittersweet story; she can finally reclaim a huge part of her identity but too late to see it, and already having passed after living a life so fraught with pain. Hopefully, wherever she has gone to, this brings her some peace. Additionally, this is going to sound probably quite silly but when they were laying the bones out first, was there a reason they were laying them on what looked like gravel spread over the autopsy table? Or was it just for better contrast in reference photos? Just something I saw that confused me a bit and wasn’t sure where to look on google >< but wonderful, deeply interesting series! Thank you for posting these!!

@ryleemorgan9620

Жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure the gravel is for contrast, like you said, but it also keeps the bones in a more stable position as they aren't able to roll around and possibly be damaged. In some clips you can see depressions where the gravel was cradling the bones.

Poor Elizabeth a short life and no doubt a very difficult one, rest in peace Elizabeth

So very very sad for this girl and so many like her. It was lovely for her to have identity reconstructed with a more importantly without the horrors of syphilis. Thank you to the team. Rip

I love this series I don't know why they even took it off I love British History I thing I love about Europe is that they care about their History they don't go destroy it I'm so glad that this was brought back thanks

What happened to her is so sad, I'm glad she has been found and her story told

These videos are fascinating to watch! Thank you for being so very respectful to the dead. I really believe you made Elizabeth very happy because you showed her kindness and empathy which I don't think she received while being alive.

I love the fact that 170 years later, she has a name and a face. She was a person who Victorian society considered a throwaway person, but we know her story and will carry a bit of her in our memory. RIP, Elizabeth.

I’m not sure what it is about the theme tune for this program but I really like it, it’s really sets the mood or tone for the whole show. Or, and this is probably more likely, because I’m (I was) such a big fan of this program, and I would really really love more episodes, it’s a chicken and the egg situation. Without the actual program would I still live the theme music?

I am crying - R. I. P. Elizabeth Mitchell - poor sweetheart ...

So so sad. My heart goes out to this young women.

I think that what these people do is so amazing and they actually care about them all ❤

What a wonderful show!! I sure hope they do create more!

So interesting ,instead we have so much reality tv now..this sort of thing is much more interesting 😀

@becca7421

5 жыл бұрын

Christine Ingram this was published November 14, 2018

@dragonmummy1

5 жыл бұрын

kinkykombucha but the programme went out in 2010.

@dianneledford3681

5 жыл бұрын

I agree 💯💯👍 interested and can even be educational at times but I will not watch some TV and reality is that program is dulling our younger generation of the future

@2012isRonPaul

5 жыл бұрын

bunch of separatist nazis lool (lol)

@pedroguerrero3862

4 жыл бұрын

@@2012isRonPaul I bet you don't like that people want to be educated and not waste their time watching pointless realities shows

Brilliant series! I first saw the 17 bodies in the well. So interesting and sometimes moving to find out these chapters of our history.

Amazing programme wish it was back on

Am I the only one who thinks Laurence Fox sounds amazingly like Alan Rickman?

@pammonaghan6038

3 жыл бұрын

I thought Jeremy Irons

@sophiejameson4064

3 жыл бұрын

Doesn't remind me.

@JulieWallis1963

3 жыл бұрын

I was trying to place the voice. I’d decided it was either Benedict Cumberbatch or Someone else, and now I’ve forgotten who else I thought it was!

@pommiebears

3 жыл бұрын

It’s just well spoken English.