Taker was actually the first anti hero, remember when he got over against Hogan the crowd cheered like crazy and Hogan was the golden boy

@mattm7798

Ай бұрын

Actually Jake Roberts was before Taker. Jake was so good as a heel and the DDT was so over, they chanted DDT instead of Hogan.

@catrakes5276

Ай бұрын

Actually the four horsemen as well as the midnight express were way before any of them

@KTF0

Ай бұрын

Jake and the Four Horsemen were heels that everyone loved and rooted for and were super over. Undertaker was the first true anti hero babyface. Altho I can't say I dont know anything about 70s and before wrestlers

@catrakes5276

Ай бұрын

@KTF0 I wouldn't say the horsemen were loved by everyone, they had major heat . . . Later in their run fans started pulling for them but they definitely wasn't liked early on . I would say they fit the anti hero

@thornslow

Ай бұрын

*cough* sycho sid

Taker is right not to count himself in the 'bad guy but a face' discussion. He pretty much transcended heel-face dynamics, when they tried a standard heel run with him it didnt really work. Part of what made him so valuable in the 00s was they could work anyone against him and it made sense whether they worked heel or babyface

@mattm7798

Ай бұрын

Yeah, when he was a face, he was a face. He wasn't really an Austin type anti hero per se. He was just a dark hero. He turned full face on Jake Roberts which lasted until the end of the 90s when he turned back heel. Then returned as a face and apart from a short time as a heel when he was the AB, was a face the rest of his career.

The only time Taker was truly the target of the chase was the streak. An accolade greater than any title, and only he could be in that position. Holding a championship was never the focus of the Undertaker. Being the threat to champions, the monster pursuing the target, that was what Undertaker was best suited for.

@MikeStivicATS

Ай бұрын

The Undertaker was one of those guys that didn't need a belt. On the exact opposite side of the spectrum is guys like Roman Riegns, who need the belt to elevate them. They are rare generational talents that can actually elevate the belt instead of vice versa. Kudos to Mark !

It's very interesting hearing the Undertaker speculate on what WWE does with there future storylines. It's not just hearing what the average fan on KZread thinks may happen.

No reason to turn Cody heel. The world was on the best chase in decades. It’s a long celebration now & he has so many ways to keep the audience engaged. Just look how over he is in France. That aint fading soon

I hope Cody holds on to the belt for quite a while. But eventually have him turn into a Million Dollar Man or Flair character. Total heel. Bring back Malakai Black, and you have history and the antihero.

@mattm7798

Ай бұрын

At some point the crowd will turn on Cody and WWE will, IMO, force Cody to lean into it and turn heel, which is what AEW should have done. But until then, having an old school babyface is refreshing. I agree Malakai/Allistair Black has so much potential with HHH pushing him, he could be the next Bray Wyatt/UT.

@MikeStivicATS

Ай бұрын

Before the heel turn ,we better get a Cody vs Randy Program...

Taker needs to see Cody's ROH/NJPW stuff. The "F Yu Cody!!" chants were going strong...

@arostwocents

23 күн бұрын

Cody is a natural heel. Anyone who only watched him in TNA literally can't believe he is over as a face

I still remember being 13 years old and seeing the Undertaker for the first time on tv. By then I was put on to how wrestling was “predetermined “ so the awe factor was gone and nothing like when I was 7,8,9 years old. BUT the Undertaker did that for me. Walking to the ring with brother love leading the way. I won’t forget it. It’s the last time I stopped what I was doing to watch a match. I was heading out the door to meet up with my friends downstairs to play football. But I stopped and watched. The music, the slow walk. OLD SCHOOL OFF THE ROPE. Jeez. That’s the Undertaker to me. The last time wrestling and a wrestler awed me. Thank you Taker!!

“This jobs really easy, all I have to do is read the comments”😂 SO INCREDIBLY TRUE, especially with wrestling fans

@OXSkuldream

13 күн бұрын

😅

I think with everything back on track with the bloodline story, cody is back doing gunther/seth things.. Just being a regular workhorse champion, not much storyline just regular wrestling matches.... Build up and wrestle and onto the next opponents type of shit..

Undertaker just specified what went wrong with Kenny Omega’s world title run in new Japan. The reign wasn’t bad, but the Chase was something else!

I Hope They Read Me And Ask Undertaker what he remembers, about the match he had with Mankind where he Got a cut on his elbow and got infected, and he had a commitment to travel to Puerto Rico, how he did to wrestle with his arm like that? What does he remember about that???

Gunther, Lesnar, Seth and CM Punk at Wrestlemania

Cody being a heel is bigger than ever !

Love Takers thoughts on wwe current events stoked i found his pod

I agree

3:20 That could've easily been my smart mark comment. On an interview 'Taker comments that his character was better suited to be the chaser, rather than the champion. I mentioned this on a Cody Rhodes video, in response to someone saying that his reign probably wouldn't last. I feel Rhodes truly is at his best when he's the chaser, abeit for a different reason than 'Taker, as Cody is an underdog.

Is the complete matches coming out

While it wouldn’t be my personal booking choice, I’m pretty sure Seth Rollins will eventually be the one to take the strap off of Cody as payback for putting Cody over on those 3 PPVs. I think a heel Seth/Becky “power couple” kind of thing could freshen up both of their stale acts

@Shadow-df7kp

Ай бұрын

Should have the most likes but the truth is too much for people to handle. I think Seth will come back with a completely knew gimmick more joker/messiah/savior, with same song tho

@Shadow-df7kp

Ай бұрын

Seth wants to be the face but he’s just way too easy for the crowd to hate, I don’t understand how Cody can’t gauge the distance to ever hit a good disaster kick …..

American Nightmare was originally a heel. He was the classic I’m coming from the big time gracing your small promotion

When he brings back his old scholarly buddy as his advisor. Damian Sandow.

If WWE would allow it (I doubt they will) Cody could dominate WWE with the Bullet Club and the 1st recruit would be Finn

@officialjpyro84

Ай бұрын

They name dropped bullet club during Cody's backlash promo vs AJ even with the too sweet each promo so we will never know. Let's see what happens.

8:11 “The crowd’s gonna turn on him eventually.” I mean I with agree that. It’s happened to him at AEW. And it’s no surprise that it’s happened to a number of superstars also: Roman Reigns, John Cena, Seth Rollins, even The Rock and even Hulk Hogan. But I believe when that happens that’s when you pull the plug and turn them heel. They did that for the Final Boss and they should have done it for Roman Reigns earlier on.

Cody vs Richochet!!

Randy vs Cody Wrestlemania 41

I can totally see Cody being a Homelander heel or bringing his black dyed hair back for a true nightmare heel persona. Imagine heel Cody vs. face Roman.

Undertaker should talk about someone entered as him at their weddings

I definitely think they’re setting up a long term Cody Rhodes heel turn after he defends the championship for at least a year. I also think they’re setting up Roman Reigns for a huge face turn. The Bloodline is already taking new form, and when Reigns comes back he’s either going to get rejected by The Bloodline - making way for Solo Sikoa to raise to the next level - or he’s going to abandon The Bloodline.

Randy Vs Cody could easily be a Mania match bcz of the history. Maybe even a Wrestlemania 41 night 1 main event. A feud like that shouldn’t be wasted on a b tier ppv. Shouldn’t be on anything less than summerslam. Cody should lose the championship to Randy At mania 41 , then he wins it back at the next summerslam after that , and then Gunther dethrones him at the next mania after that. Idk what they’ll do tho.

@FFadeaway

Ай бұрын

Agreed and I think you give him Gunther after Gunther goes on a hunt for the World Heavyweight Championship to nudge his way into the main event picture. There’s tons you can do with Cody still.

He's right. Cody has Flair qualities...

Coby should play heel like they said go against RKO

Cody and Finn could produce the best storyline and best match ever. Let the Demon and the American Nightmare do their thing.

Karrion kross

Bullet club possessed Cody needs to make a comeback one day. 🤣

I can see Cody becoming a psychotic heel. He does a lot of callbacks, and he already played a deranged character once before. His facial expressions look borderline evil at times.

Fun to sit in and discuss Cody’s future but I would say a heel turn is downright IMPOSSIBLE . Everyone seems to do it but I don’t think Cody needs to- he may be able to prove you don’t have to to be a long reigning champion.

One people start booing Cody Rhodes in WWE, we will finally see Homelander from him.

The Undertaker was not a face nor a heel, he's a Neutral. If you look back at his gimmick, yes he had his sinister moments😂 but he was this undead being with super natural powers who's job was to put you 6 feet under. Not because it was personal, he just The Undertaker, the grim reaper. If you're next on his list your fate is sealed, but if you cross paths with HIM, you'll meet an even worst fate.

I mean I want to see Cody be turned heel but the question is, how can we get him to be turned on heel? Unless if 🤔, Marky can turn him heel cause he has experienced turning him on heel 😈🤔

@rezzytheskyguy

Ай бұрын

Nobody wants cody to turn hes literally at his peak. Why tf would he turn heel after the entire fanbase rose up & fought for him then he beat the most dominant champion of the modern era. Makes no fucking sense.

@iLikeMyOwnPosts

Ай бұрын

@@rezzytheskyguy you don’t need to be a jerk tho

@NiteHuntRick

Ай бұрын

@@rezzytheskyguy Because fans are fickle

I wish someone else was sitting across from taker. This guy is way too much of a mark.

Gunther = WEF stooge “Eat ze bugs” “You will have nothing and be happy” Ha ha ha

So MJF then?

If Cody still wants to retire by 40 or early 40s, he needs to lose it enough so he can be a 4-5 time champion

Taker en pleno baclkclash nooo jajaja

Incredible!!!🇺🇲😍🇺🇳

If Cody turned on the Rhodes name, they would have to bring Dustin in and make him fairly integral. But I don’t think we are close to that terrain yet.

I don't think Cody will retain until next WM unless he was a REALLY successful reign or he turns heel at some point. While Cody I think golds the title better than Steamboat did, the big money for both was the chase. Cody right now is a phenomenal underdog...and you can't be an underdog while champ.

No need to make Cody a heel.

Cody will not turn heel.. He didn't want to do it in AEW, I know defiantly he's not willing to do it in WWE.

The crowd will definitely turn on Cody... and probably sooner rather than later (depending on who he's working against)... and Cody COULD make a great heel, as long as he doesn't do it in a clichéd or cheesy way - like Matt suggested. I think Cody should lean into the "American Nightmare" name, make his hair black again, go for a darker look, and become something resembling a sinister comic book villain, but without going into Stardust over-acting mode... Keep it cool, keep it authentic. Think Sting becoming The Crow, rather than Cody becoming Stardust. Less is more. Which is important to remember, because Cody has a tendency to over-act, and then it comes across as lacking authenticity. But what I would really love to see BEFORE Cody turns heel is for him to face some kind of insurmountable challenge again - either from Roman Reigns and the bloodline coming for revenge, while Cody's friends desert him, OR Brock Lesnar returning - and then, to help even the odds, the original Goldust returns (not comedy Goldust, creepy psychological Goldust who we saw before the censors got involved)... making gritty vignettes quoting movie lines, playing mind-games with Cody's opponent, making suggestive advances (another mouth to mouth scene!?), being generally controversial and pushing the boundaries, with the purpose of distracting and unnerving Cody's opponent... - [this could also be a way to introduce a new male or female 'physical specimen' to the WWE as Goldust's bodyguard (he'll need protection!)] - ...But then, just as Cody triumphs over the Bloodline/Brock with Goldust's help, Goldust turns on Cody... his jealousy and lust for gold overcoming him... setting up a bitter feud and bloody match (or series of matches) with his brother. But not any match - a retirement match! Which everyone will expect Goldust to lose... but he doesn't - Cody loses! And Goldust wins the gold! To the shock of everyone... WTF!? But the next Monday Night on RAW, while Goldust celebrates, HHH comes out and demands a rematch that very same night due to Goldust's revealed cheating... And later we see Cody arrive at the arena... but then we see a shady figure leaving Cody's locker room without Cody's knowledge... and this story goes on... but I'll only complete it when WWE employs me as a writer!

@NiteHuntRick

Ай бұрын

Nobody will turn on Cody. And Cody will not turn heel over some fickle fans. Been there done that

@jayduplessis7698

Ай бұрын

@@NiteHuntRick You haven't been watching professional wrestling for very long, have you... lol

@NiteHuntRick

Ай бұрын

@@jayduplessis7698 Longer than you as far as I'm concerned. When was the last time a heel turn would come naturally? Nowadays it's always gotta be through fans doing quick 180s around wrestlers and then we get the same promo every single time "You People Turn On Me This" and "You People Turn On Me That". Randy Savage never had people turned against him when he turned heel or Steve Austin or Randy Orton for that matter. They come naturally. All Steve Austin had to say was three words "Don't Trust Anyone" and he implied that it would mean not to trust him either and it came out naturally

@jayduplessis7698

Ай бұрын

@@NiteHuntRick It still happens. And not everyone turned when the fans turned on them, like Cena... even though he probably should've (and by the stories I heard, plans were so advanced for him to turn that he already had his new outfit designed). Cody also didn't turn in AEW when they started booing him. As for your terminology: isn't a "natural"/organic turn when the crowd turns on you, and you just go with it? With a surprise/shock/unnatural turn when it happens unexpectedly (such as Seth Rollins turning on the Shield)? Anyway, the best predictor of future behaviour is past behaviour... and in the very recent past a certain age group of fans turned against this exact incarnation of Cody Rhodes in AEW. And there are already segments of that demographic who booed him against the Rock in the WWE. So his popularity is on thin ice.

What! Why? Cody is boring man..he’s no dusty and gets to have a title dusty couldn’t get near… and dusty was the better wrestler. WWE showing all this disrespect towards its fans is awful. Dusty should be respected more and get that title off Cody. Everyone in that locker room with loads of talent and they give it to Cody.. Cody… startdust… a guy who disrespected wwe in aew, who would be on tna impact today if wwe didn’t give him a chance and he would be trash talking the undertaker, hhh ect like he did in aew. Cody should be a low card guy, a gi who should be losing ever match he has in wwe, Cody is small time and always has been. We love dusty and this is disrespectful to fuck. Dusty would be disgusted how his legacy is been treated. Get Cody away from wwe. He’s not welcome and we don’t want him.

@N3gativeR3FLUX

9 күн бұрын

😂 You know what they say about opinions...

Not on board with Cody as champion. He just isn't interesting or compelling. LA Knight would have been my pick for that spot - in time.

@NiteHuntRick

Ай бұрын

Wrong. Cody is interesting and compelling. Even way more than LA Knight. There's a reason Knight wasn't booked at WrestleMania 39 last year. You should be on board cause Cody earned it and he's the GOAT. Show some respect

@WhatchaGunnaDooo

Ай бұрын

@@NiteHuntRicklol Cody chase was better than the success. Dude is really nothing special since he won

@NiteHuntRick

Ай бұрын

@@WhatchaGunnaDooo You mean you're nothing special. Cody is a whole lot of special. Cody is special since he won. In one night and then through a month he's already a better champion than Roman. He showed up the way Roman should've. This is already just as great as the chase. That's why the whole world loves him and continues to sing his theme everytime he shows up. Stop being so pathetic and embrace the GOAT

@danlc95

Ай бұрын

@@NiteHuntRick - 😆😆😆 Shut up, you pathetic crybaby. You aren't going to be able to enforce any of that shit on me.

No no no, cody needs to lose the championship so we can move on. Cody the midcard is not the face of the company. Cody doesn't have it. He was the worse person to give a mega push.

@NiteHuntRick

Ай бұрын

You don't decide what he needs. He is not a midcard, never was an never will be. He is a REAL World Champion and WrestleMania Main Eventer and the Face of WWE He does have it, except he was denied for the wrong reasons. He is not the wrong person, he is the reason to give a mega push. He earned it, he proved it, and he deserves it. The whole world knows it and so should you. Show some respect to the GOAT and stop being such a pathetic troll. He is already a great WWE Champion and a great face of the company

@NiteHuntRick

Ай бұрын

The world sings his song so you know that's how much of a GOAT he really is

@RoseyRK

Ай бұрын

@@NiteHuntRick for now but eventually they will boo this boring wwe champion

@NiteHuntRick

Ай бұрын

@@RoseyRK No they won't and he's not boring. He's the GOAT, everyone knows that. And he's already a way better champion than Roman in just a single night. Your life is boring and nobody likes you

@NiteHuntRick

Ай бұрын

@@RoseyRK Nobody likes you, you know that, right

Cody isn't a great talent. Sorry, hes not. His mic skills are limited. He can't carry this roster. With no Rock or Roman to carry him, he won't be interesting at all. There's a reason AJ Styles is being put with him. AJ can carry him. AJ is a better performer.

@NiteHuntRick

Ай бұрын

Stop lying. Nothing you said about Cody is correct. Cody is a great. Always have and always will be. If Undertaker, someone who knows about the business more than anyone else, says Cody is great then we should listen. And Cody proved it. And he is interesting, he's always been interested. He didn't carried by The Rock or Roman. He carried them. He carry the roster and he just did on a single night while Roman spent the last three years being absent. And AJ can't carry Cody. Cody never needed anyone to carry him, that's nor a reason at all. The reason is because they never had a match against one another and Becky of the history AJ had with Dusty. Stop making up excuses to hate Cody and give him the respect that he earned and deserves. He's the GOAT

@NiteHuntRick

Ай бұрын

Cody is a better performer than AJ. And his mic skills are unlimited and he carried the roster more than AJ could ever wish for. AJ's mic skills nowadays is just like his current theme song, bland and boring

@berryboi2313

Ай бұрын

Bait used to be Believable

@alexmonro1711

Ай бұрын

Cody is still very over with WWE fans. WWE is going to book for the majority opinion not random Cody haters online lol