Christiaan's Violin Ramblings 3: Vibrato

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Everything you wanted to know about vibrato!

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  • @ChristiaanvanHemert
    @ChristiaanvanHemert4 жыл бұрын

    After this video watch the follow-up Q&A video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/jIpo1qOSl7TVmbQ.html

  • @ticogutierrez2978

    @ticogutierrez2978

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hi Christiaan, I really like you tips about wrist vibrato. Would you please give us some advice on how to play faster? Thanks.

  • @aidanduffield5395

    @aidanduffield5395

    4 жыл бұрын

    Tico Gutiérrez the only way to play faster is to practice slow with the metronome and slowly speed it up without any mistakes

  • @ticogutierrez2978

    @ticogutierrez2978

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Aidan, I’ll follow your advice.

  • @aidanduffield5395

    @aidanduffield5395

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ticogutierrez2978 The reason this works is because with slow practice, you are teaching your brain to remember what to play. If it is cemented well enough, you can gradually speed it up.

  • @MattLeGroulx
    @MattLeGroulx4 жыл бұрын

    I know you don't do violin videos anymore because they don't get views but please know that those of us who find them very useful really appreciate them. Thanks, Christiaan!

  • @normanfreund
    @normanfreund6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the detailed instructions, like any good red wine, it is not be rushed, so taking the time to watch your videos is well worth it. Much appreciated.

  • @ChristiaanvanHemert

    @ChristiaanvanHemert

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Norman

  • @Skinny_Karlos
    @Skinny_Karlos Жыл бұрын

    I feel debilitated, disheartened and overwhelmed. Two years of this slow, rock steady but slow practice which, as you pointed out, nothing previously learned on the violin, prepares one for. If it wasn't so crucial to my overall sound I'd omit it from my study but after a decade of study of the violin and still having no effective vibrato despite playing grade VI AMEB pieces and a degree in music on the classical guitar. I do feel disheartened and lost but as with everything I this life, nothing worthwhile comes without work so I will put in the work each day and hopefully develop a useable, beautiful-sounding vibrato. Thank you for your video, Christiaan. I really appreciate the info on what is in store for me over the next two years or so.

  • @ChristiaanvanHemert

    @ChristiaanvanHemert

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, I feel your pain. I have two mottos for you to repeat to yourself everyday: 1. Embrace the frustration (this means you're really trying to get better at something you couldn't do before) 2. Only care about the work not the result. (Results will come but very slowly, so just focus on working with dedication and perseverance). Good luck, you'll get there!

  • @Skinny_Karlos

    @Skinny_Karlos

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ChristiaanvanHemert Thanks for your encouragement. I WILL get there but it will just take time and what's 15 -20 mins out of one's practice schedule ? I can and will do it. Thanks again.

  • @LittleDinosaurTunes
    @LittleDinosaurTunes6 жыл бұрын

    I just couldn't do vibrato at all until I ditched the shoulder rest. Everything is so much easier and cleaner sounding now. Haven't been playing violin long but I've I've played alot of other instruments. Love these videos, you call them ramblings but it's alot of no nonsense practical advice. Thank you for these.

  • @ChristiaanvanHemert

    @ChristiaanvanHemert

    6 жыл бұрын

    You're Welcome Jacob, good to hear your vibrato improved after ditching the shoulder rest. Mine did too!

  • @Skinny_Karlos
    @Skinny_Karlos Жыл бұрын

    I've worked out why a degree in music - classical guitar doesn't help with violin vibrato. On the guitar the fingers are more perpendicular to the strings whereas on the violin the fingers are more, not totally but more, parallel to the strings so my guitar vibrato is totally useless here. Back to the beginning and on with the work !! Two years of this seems interminable but doable if one is dedicated and if anything I'm dedicated to becoming a better violinist. I want to join our local orchestra but without a classy vibrato, this is just not possible. Two years, another grade or two (seventh or eighth grade AMEB) and maybe they'll accept me into the local orchestra. Thank you for your time and your video. On to work now...

  • @ringmasterblaze
    @ringmasterblaze5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for these videos. Can you make more technique videos soon? i really like your teaching style

  • @bennyblanko3
    @bennyblanko32 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @tothestars4151
    @tothestars41515 жыл бұрын

    Ayyy I learn from the best, the best!

  • @garthly
    @garthly6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this. I started to play the violin in my fifties, and my teacher gave me a rest. I could manage everything, but once I started vibrato, I got terrible neck pain, and even toothache! and in the end I gave up. I have played the guitar since childhood and have a vibrato there which I never thought about. It certainly never hurt. I will try your restless violin method and see how it works out.

  • @ChristiaanvanHemert

    @ChristiaanvanHemert

    6 жыл бұрын

    Great, let me know how it feels!

  • @fabiog801

    @fabiog801

    3 жыл бұрын

    man i am switching form guitar to violin, and no, our vibrato sound really bad on violin. arm vibrato that's what u want. it is a mess to do it i am really struggling right now. this video of Chris talking about it is dope.

  • @erikhn9331
    @erikhn93313 жыл бұрын

    Hello Christiaan. Thanks for a great video and for your great and very instructive videos - very reflected too. My question: what’s your view on viola-vibrato? I was trained as a kid with a wrist vibrato, which I simply transferred into the viola, trying to make the motion a bit bigger to maintain the same amplitude as on the violin. But I se my fellow (classical) violists all play with an arm vibrato, and for some years, I was sad that I never learned a proper arm-vibrato, as other violists using arm vibrato in my ears have a bigger and warmer tone on their instrument. So I’ve been considering changing my vibrato technique from the bottom. But do you think, you can develop a good and warm and variated wrist vibrato on the viola too? And do you know any examples of great violists, who uses wrist vibrato? Greetings from Denmark. Erik.

  • @KevinCloudQAQ
    @KevinCloudQAQ6 жыл бұрын

    Hi Christiaan thanks for your video. As a classical violin student this is a different approach. I still find it difficult to “secure” the violin when shift. Same with the Russian style bow hold which I think I just need more practice. However it seems Russian bow hold may just not working for me as it has much slower progress compare to playing without shoulder rest. The most difficult part in vibrato to me Is the first joint of fingers.... Anyway your violin videoes are really informative, gives lots of different ideas take time to think of.

  • @ChristiaanvanHemert

    @ChristiaanvanHemert

    6 жыл бұрын

    The Russian bow hold might not be for you but nice that you're giving it a try! Thanks for watching!

  • @danielchourney6111
    @danielchourney61116 жыл бұрын

    Where are the contact points for vibrato in first position without a shoulder rest? I cant figure out where to rest the violin in order to get the knuckle on my index finger away from the neck enough to even practice vibrato.

  • @ChristiaanvanHemert

    @ChristiaanvanHemert

    6 жыл бұрын

    If you check my hand position at 17:40 you can see it. It takes time to develop it, it's a very hard place to play vibrato. Just go slow and give it time!

  • @denischang1104

    @denischang1104

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hello! I think I can answer this from the point of view of someone who learned from Christiaan and who’s going through the same difficulties as you. If you play without a shoulder rest (and if you did), you need to figure out what works for your body in the most efficient way possible. This is where it gets really tricky because everyone is different, and many factors come into play (size of fingers, hands, size of neck, chin, etc...). What helped me was to constantly try different combinations and wathcing lots of videos of other violinists without shoulder rests. Anne Sophie Mutter comes to mind. Her contact points are different from Christiaan’s. Her thumb is lower than Christiaan and she is supporting it more from the upper half of the thumb. I suggest you spend time experimenting to find what owrks. I’m still working on it, and it took me one year of experimenting to start to understand this

  • @tullochgorum6323
    @tullochgorum63236 жыл бұрын

    From what I can tell from the videos, Grappelli himself used quite a narrow, fast, shimmering finger/impulse vibrato more like Kreisler and the old bel canto players. I can't see the more romantic-style wrist vibrato you are teaching here. Also, he seems to be keeping the side of his hand in contact with the neck. Not a criticism - your vibrato is impressive. Really just asking you as a GJ expert what you have learned about Grappelli's approach? Martin Taylor's a family friend, so I'll see if someone can ask him if he noticed anything about this...

  • @ChristiaanvanHemert

    @ChristiaanvanHemert

    6 жыл бұрын

    I'mm not so interested in the technique Grappelli uses to produce his vibrato, I'm only interested in the sound. On fast songs his vibrato will be fast with a small amplitude but on slower tunes like "Manoir de Mes Reves" and "Melodie Au Crepuscule" he will produce a fast large amplitude vibrato. This is the approach I take myself.

  • @AtticusStount
    @AtticusStount6 жыл бұрын

    Why do violinists ruin/make inauthentic early renaissance music?

  • @richardjohnson2331

    @richardjohnson2331

    6 жыл бұрын

    UCanDo Cartoon I think both sides of this argument can be disagreed with. Most people who are self taught on guitar or voice use vibrato. So I think in Bach's time violinists also played with vibrato, too. I don't think it was the modern continuous super wide vibrato. Doing that on voice sounds unnatural, we've just become used to it on classical violin. So I think in Bach's time vibrato was probably used on held notes, but I also think it was more like what a guitarist does today, where the vibrato was more individualistic and not so pervasive. A lot of Jazz and Rock violinists modify their use of vibrato when switching from classical to fit the style of music.