CHOOSING A VAN FOR EXPEDITING
What van should I get? That’s a common question from those interested in expediting. This video gives you the answer and why.
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Once Toyota decides to bring a sprinter van to the us market it’s game over for all these companies.
@benderproductions3909
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@patsacrack6625
2 жыл бұрын
Yep, I think the gov't and GM Ford work to keep them out.
@lovo9565
2 жыл бұрын
Basically with any kind of work vehicle
@bryant4the328
2 жыл бұрын
Great comment.. I wonder what’s the hold up
@triplettitan6908
2 жыл бұрын
Man, they have one in China that is crazy nice.
Thank you Sir.Ive been pulling chemical tank for over 26 years and now they're wanna put cameras on my truck. I'm done.You really helped me to make my mind.
Good advice Allen nice of you to help other people your a good American .
Great 👍 info Apex, thanks for sharing your life experiences with van expedited. Be safe out there.
@EverythingApax
3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it. Welcome
I must say, this has proven to be the most informative and revealing about getting into this business and I have watched dozens in the last few days. I am tossing this idea around and it looks like it would be doable. Yes, the longest, highest truck is best, of course, as I would be spending nights out on the road. I want to be comfortable in my 'home', wherever it is parked. Many thanks.
@EverythingApax
Жыл бұрын
Very much appreciated. Have you done over the road before?
I'm so glad to have come across this video. You answered some of my biggest concerns. Please keep up the good work! I appreciate it.
@EverythingApax
6 ай бұрын
Thank you
Thanks for your advice. It's highly appreciated! God bless!
Good stuff, sir! Appreciate you taking the time to make these videos and share valuable information!
@EverythingApax
11 ай бұрын
Glad you like them!
This man is serious about helping new people entering the business. I like honest and upfront people. Mike Miller in KY
@EverythingApax
6 ай бұрын
Thank you, Mike!
Thank you for the explanation between Transit 250 and 350, even google could not break it down like you did.
YEEESSSS... I slid over here faster than I slid back in the slow lane when I saw that State Trooper behind me in the express lane..😂😂😂 I've been waiting for this. Thank you again sir. It helps me get my thoughts together. 👍👍👍
@martajajackson1836
3 жыл бұрын
I forgot about that. The courier work vs expiditors. 👍👍👍
You make alot of sense ! Im glad I found you on here !
@EverythingApax
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
As a former FedEx Driver...always, always, get the biggest truck you can!
@mahfah7911
Жыл бұрын
Carrying loads on sprinter van now is above 4,000 to 5,000lbs. If I get max carrying 5,000lbs capacity and hauling less then that while van weights 6,000 itself too. Would I have to stop at weight stations?
Just the information I needed. Appreciate all the knowledge you dropped on this video. Liked and subbed!
@EverythingApax
Жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Appreciate that.
I appreciate you sir! This is exactly what I was looking for!
Great advice. I've watched a few of your videos,good stuff.
@EverythingApax
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Thanks for clearing that up, I didn't know expedited and Courier now I know
@EverythingApax
2 жыл бұрын
So many don't realize there is different avenues of earning in a van. Appreciate you
That’s extremely informative. Thanks .
As Always GEMS Thanks Bro
So glad i see this video am in the process starting up my cargo transportation business every little positive advice i can graft to now is appreciated... i have just subscribe bro
@EverythingApax
6 ай бұрын
Any other questions please feel free to ask.
Great video thank you so much for putting it out here
@EverythingApax
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
Good video man!!! Great information and your straight the eff up!! 👍
@EverythingApax
2 жыл бұрын
I want people as informed as possible.
Thank you for this info it was needed god bless you
excellent video . I’ve learned so much from your channel before i got on the road myself
@EverythingApax
19 күн бұрын
Thank you!
Very helpful video if you’re a beginner looking to purchase your first van. Great info!
@EverythingApax
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@WatchAke
3 жыл бұрын
Do you think staring out with a extended cargo van is fine? Is work harder to find in them?
@EverythingApax
3 жыл бұрын
@@WatchAke if you put in the work yes you can make it work.
@WatchAke
3 жыл бұрын
@@EverythingApax I appreciate your words and inspiration brotha. Keep spreading the knowledge! It’s very helpful!
Thank you 😊 this video is very helpful
Great advice! Love this.
@EverythingApax
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
Ur the number 1 bro👍
Thank you for the information.
Good info! Thanks a lot!!!
Thanks man for the information
EXACTLY about “NOT letting them run your credit” bc that HARD INQUIRY will stay on your credit for 2 years but will be effective for only 1 year but using your EIN from your business is better to use bc Hard Inquiries doesn’t impact a business credit rating as a serious issue
Thank you for this video it's really helpful
@EverythingApax
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
Expedited and most currior work is as an independent contractor. I did 4ys (425K miles) of expediting in a 1 ton Chevy gas cargo van but Sprinter changed everything. Most expediting companies won't take on a cargo van these days.
@EverythingApax
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's difficult to get on somewhere decent with a cargo van.
@redcapote4760
2 жыл бұрын
Are you saying a Sprinter cargo van would also be no good? Or a Ford Transit cargo van? I'm not sure if you mean a passenger van with seats removed would be better, or if you need a more heavy duty vehicle than a simple cargo van.
@lawnfreak3543
Жыл бұрын
Zipline Express will FedEx will and with my experience the smaller mom-and-pop carriers pay better they take care of their drivers
@lawnfreak3543
Жыл бұрын
@@redcapote4760 sprinter style Vans are cargo Vans. What Allen was talking about is a standard van like e 350 Chevy Express low-top vans that are 48 inches high hope this helps and in most cases Allen is right I'm just saying if you find the right carrier get the right load boards you can make money with a low roof cargo van is it more at work to book loads yes are you going to lose out occasionally because you're too short yes but I made $1,000 a week plus driving a cargo van as a company driver it wasn't fun doing it it was Bare Bones and I had to drive about 3000 to 4000 miles a week to make that but I made it work
In Uk ford have four of the top ten selling vans, Transit top seller with two more Transit derivatives and a Ranger. Mercedes Sprinter is 2nd. Sprinter looks better but I’d go Ford for reliability and cheaper repairs. As for size guys here go for what suits their freight. Some deliver boxes like depot local to me so small car derived vans are most economical and nimble,. Pallets then it’s like you say Sprinter, Jumbo Transit or even a 3.5 curtained box. And so many other sizes for so many jobs in between. It really is a good question.
@EverythingApax
3 жыл бұрын
That's interesting to know for real. Thank you
The ram pro masters are tight for taller people. Knees are always in the dash. Nissan nv2500’s are trash over all. They get stuck very easy especially in driveways with wet leaves for example. The awd ford transits or 2018 and older mercedes are the best.
@jamesweatherspoon2550
2 жыл бұрын
I'm 6'3 I'm looking for comfort.
@Kholdstare0503
2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesweatherspoon2550 ford or Mercedes
The DEF systems are trouble. I have listened to some Hotshot drivers with the Cummins diesels and they are saying the DEF has a freezing problem in sub zero weather.
I am probably starting off low roof because a low roof 2019 Ford Transit is what I can afford right now, but I will hopefully work my way up to the high roof one day! Thanks for the video.
@landdealsCA
11 ай бұрын
Did you start?
thanks for this information brother 🙏
@EverythingApax
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
Thanx for educational videos, be safe...
@EverythingApax
6 ай бұрын
Thank you
Appreciate you buddy
Thank You for the Free Game 🙏🏿
@EverythingApax
6 ай бұрын
Absolutely! A better educated driver should help the industry.
When I was in a cargo van the Freightliner Sprinter came out. I wrote an article calling it..."Super Van" (in Super Man logo) with the 5 cylinder diesel. Should have left it alone. It was the super expiditer van.
I seriously appreciate your advice I'm starting my business soon and trying to get the best van possible especially for legroom!
@EverythingApax
2 жыл бұрын
No problem. How's it going so far?
@kelvinbirch5641
2 жыл бұрын
@@EverythingApax nothing I’m still pursuing but I gotta find a car company that willing to help and insurance! It’s been tough brother
Nice honest video
@EverythingApax
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
I've made the decision to go expediting. DOT done, UCR done, Waiting on DOT PIN for MCA....getting insurance quotes and looking at vehicles. I've been looking at cargo vans - love the size... love the ford transit you got. Looking for something similar.
@EverythingApax
3 жыл бұрын
Good luck. How is it going so far?
@SFLAdventures
3 жыл бұрын
@@EverythingApax So far so good. Where I live (S. Florida) vans are really hard to come by. The large Ford's, Chevy's, etc... are beat to death and you can't get anything under a 2010 for less than 10K.... some other areas in the US are better for vans.... But so far its going well. TY. I'm currently looking at carriers to work under.
@EverythingApax
6 ай бұрын
@SFLAdventures, are you still doing the expedited work?
@SFLAdventures
6 ай бұрын
@@EverythingApax Never started. : (
Thanks for video👍🏾
@EverythingApax
3 жыл бұрын
Welcome
Mr Allen, An opinionated video? I would have never guessed. You are a legend. If people do not listen to you then they are the ones that made the mistake. Charge on and keep all the tires on the concrete.
@EverythingApax
3 жыл бұрын
Lol. Yes I enjoy doing opinionated videos. I try to help is all.
Another thought is the price difference and maintenance cost a deal breaker? The 170 Sprinter is a lot more money then the competition.
Lots of good information.
@EverythingApax
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
Second video that said transit is better thanks 💪
You are the best and how you have paintaince amaze me I'm like your brother people is dump I've been in over the road trucking for over 30 years did hotshot and semis all my life but never did what you doing but I did I would choose a ford over any because ford been around for ever
@EverythingApax
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
Would it be better to expedite with a 26ft box truck? Would a box or van provide better opportunities?
Get whatever van you can afford...
@EverythingApax
11 ай бұрын
If the plan is to do otr, I don't agree, but other than that, I agree. The individual's work ethic and ability will make any size van work for the time needed.
@telgrupos6143
Ай бұрын
And then you eventually won't be able to keep maintaining the same van due to its unreliability.
Thank you!
Great information.
@EverythingApax
6 ай бұрын
Thank you
I've always wondered, how things ever got expideted. High top vans are only a recent innovation, but the old timers, worked for years in those low topped vans. So I'd say, why not do a video on the low roofed vehicles.
@EverythingApax
3 жыл бұрын
My early videos I was in a low roof cargo van.
thank you for info.
Hello, Thanks for the info
@EverythingApax
3 жыл бұрын
Anytime
My best advice is to buy a low milage used van and save about 10k. This will help you move on when you hit 300k miles. I look for Commercial loaners from service department s. They are serviced by the dealer and well maintained because they want to sell it. Example my Metris cargo had 8,900 miles. The price was $22,900 at a Mercedes dealer. $31,000 for new.
@EverythingApax
3 жыл бұрын
I would advise everybody to take the time to find a low mileage used van still under warranty. 100%
@speedyfinalmile
3 жыл бұрын
Also the pricing on used is often no haggle and priced to move. Beware they will try to take you on a trade. The internet price on a used commercial is the lowest price.
@speedyfinalmile
2 жыл бұрын
@Dorsey Enforcer I have a friend that’s selling two extended Ford Transits. Low milage take over the lease from Bush leasing. Vans used for local FedEx Ground routes.
@atx-cvpi_99
Ай бұрын
Today, you are better off buying a new one since used ones are still more expensive than new ones.
I always get the best vehicle deal in November.
@EverythingApax
3 жыл бұрын
I'll have to look into that
@richardziemies8247
3 жыл бұрын
@@EverythingApax I have a 2020 Chevy cab chassis with a single dual rear axle. 6 wheels and tires on my van with a 15 foot box on it. Although I have type one diabetes, I still pass the DOT medical every 2 years and a gas 6.0 liter engine and I get sometimes 19 mpg when there isn't a crosswind blowing and cruise on. I am also an amputee and I haul wheels for a wheel maker all over the place. I did a trip last week and had 4 wheels to take to Florida. I made a log book out. Didn't have to do it really but got pulled over by Dot on 75 south and he said that I followed everything right. I said thanks and went on my way. Anyway, I have a trip to North Platte Ne. and then to Phoenix, Az. With some wheels. About 300 pds worth. Going to a Ford dealer. Then take the damaged wheels back to the terminal in Iowa. I am 66 yrs of age and do this part time. I enjoy it. No hurry, no worries getting to my drops. Later. 0 liter
@EverythingApax
3 жыл бұрын
@@richardziemies8247 sounds like you've got a nice gig that fits your needs. There is all types of opportunities out there for all types of vans if you look for it. Be safe, driver.
Hey Allen which video show how to put the floor in the van thank I can't find it send you do it b4
Another awesome thumbnail.
@EverythingApax
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!😁
thank you Sir
A lot of guys don't "listen and pay attention" to their vans. An important reason why they have problems.
@EverythingApax
3 жыл бұрын
That is for sure. You can most definitely hear the difference or feel it.
Ford Econoline my personal favorite
even better go in with your own loan approval from your own bank etc.the dealer will run your credit tooo many times and drop your score alot of points to get you a crappy approval.
@EverythingApax
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. That's the best way.
@Terquilla
3 жыл бұрын
The dealer can run your credit an unlimited amount of times in, I think, a 48 hour window with no additional hits.
@DilanGilluly
3 жыл бұрын
Mike is right. This used to be the case but at least in the US they did pass laws to help with this. So, there's two different kinds of hits, soft hits are when one isn't applying for a credit, for instance, running a credit check through a service like Credit Karma or through a monitoring bureau. And then there's hard hits, which are when you're applying for credit. Since the legislation, when a hard hit occurs, you can do a number of other hard hits without them impacting your credit without an arbitrary limit, for a period of 48 hours (federally, some states extend this, to 96 hours or more in some instances). It serves two functions 1. Helps keep dealerships more honest and 2. Allows consumers to cross shop within that period of time for loans or with other dealerships.
@DilanGilluly
3 жыл бұрын
But I do agree that you should shop for your own loan. A lot of the times they'll offer a better rate, especially if you go through a credit union. And some dealerships don't offer lines through credit unions, and some only offer loans through expedited loan services which tend to offer a lower bar for approval as far as credit score is concerned, but with a substantially higher APR, in order to be able to sell to more customers. For that reason, get your own approval, but if the dealership thinks they can do better with their lines, might as well let them run it if it's within that 48 hours. When I bought one of my past cars, my credit union offered 2.4% and the credit union the dealer ran it through offered me 1.8%. So yeah, in that one case the dealership actually beat my own approval.
When getting started is there a limit on how old the van can be or how many miles to drive for most companies im trying to get started but not trying to spend a lot on a new van so hoping I can run a used Older model
@Sci-Fi_Fan296
Жыл бұрын
I have heard by most experienced operators that most of the larger companies want the age to be less than 5 years! 5 years or newer! I hope this helps!
Hello I would like to share a little I have learned about the promaster. I believe there are 3 sizes 139 inch and 159 inch wb and 159 extended. The 159 just at 12 ft floor The 159 extended around 13 ' 6" The extended are only available as a 3500. The 3500 is geared a little lower, so lower mileage. The promaster is based on a fiat. The promaster is made in Mexico The Ford transit is made in the USA I think the fords cost more. Alex seems to think they are more reliable. Hmm made in usa
@EverythingApax
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
thanks!
Great video!! Thank you big boss!
@EverythingApax
3 жыл бұрын
Welcome
Very well said! Been watching you for years! I went out for 5 months running for Panther as as a driver for a fleet owner 60/40 split. Came back home and still in blood so I'm buying a new Ford Transit 350 soon. Are you still with Barrett? or are you strictly on your own?, Thanks for another great video.
@EverythingApax
2 жыл бұрын
Congrats! I'm under my own authority full time.
@thisismagacountry1318
2 жыл бұрын
Which fleet owner? Does he have terminals in Texas? Recon Corpsman has your back.
@Hollymountainhwy16
Жыл бұрын
How was the Panther company paying out, any profits if you don't mind ?
How about a Chevy 2500 express been looking into this work just got one was wondering if I could use it for this type of work
@marvinsalmond6673
2 жыл бұрын
I I was wondering the same thing
From what I've heard the best 2 days to making a deal and buying any vehicle is the last day the month and the last day of the year because the sales people are trying to make some type of quota.
@EverythingApax
3 жыл бұрын
Sounds about right.
Allan, you said, 'to many vans chasing to few deliveries'. Big D said the same. I'm fearful doing expediting until 2021 rolls around. Wait & see attitude. Which engine, the old 3.7L used till 2017 or 3.5L is the better engine in the Ford Transit? Do you ever for see rates at a steady $1.00 per mile again or will rates stay flat or fall? Did you find your overheating problem? How's Big D doing? Hope he does another video again, I miss his videos. Apparently your brother has given up on doing videos? Is he still expediting?
@EverythingApax
3 жыл бұрын
It's very difficult to be at $1 now. My 2 vans are averaging mid 90s. Nothing figured out with the running hot. At a guessing game point with it. Big D may do videos but he's out of expediting. He's driving a box truck hauling Amazon
This is pretty helpful but what i wanna know is do carriers and local reginals hire ex felons? Ive been clean for 5 yesrs since i been out and currently employed. I jist need to get out of a 9to5 and do my own thing. Btw i my felony was from a drug sales charge. But since ive been home i iust wanna do this type of job and provide for my 3 kids and wife. Im from Northern cali.
I didn’t even know it expediting was!
You went from a cargo van to a high roof. Exactly what i want to do because it only makes more sense, just like you said. Now, my question to you is, what is the fuel consumption now with the high roof compared to the cargo van you had before?? I’m getting about 22MPG highway on my current chevy express and I heard that these high roofs can get 12-14MPG. Is that accurate, do you remember what you were getting before?
I disagree with the smaller van for deliveries, I drive for Amazon and our loads are HEAVY. The Mercedes Sprinters with the shelves are best, they're best for organizing for order, helps move faster to get the job done. Space is a huge deal. Only thing is you have to keep your eye on the DEF.
@GeraKosmos
3 жыл бұрын
What is DEF?
@DilanGilluly
3 жыл бұрын
@@GeraKosmos Diesel Exhaust Fluid. It's something that the EPA mandates for most diesel engines these days. Supposed to neutralize the sulfur and other byproducts of burning diesel or something like that. It's a bit controversial though, as some engines do have issues with their DEF systems, and with it being an extra thing, at the very least you have to keep an eye on the level and top it off, most of these vans it's about every third fill up of the fuel that you typically have to top the DEF off. Another thing is you don't want to over fill it if you don't have access to a pump that automatically shuts off too. (You can buy DEF at hardware and TSC stores if you can't find it at the pump in a particular area, but it comes in plastic jugs), but that's not much of an issue anymore, since semis require it now you can typically find a pump of DEF that has an automatic shutoff at most truckstop gas stations.
@thisismagacountry1318
2 жыл бұрын
If you're an Owner/Operator only use box DEF. Pump DEF will fk your engine.
Your a smart man, thanks. What companies do expediting, traveled over the road for 40 years, am retired now but still like to travel, but how about heavy lifting, I'm lazy if l actually had to work for a living, l would have had to rob banks.
@EverythingApax
2 жыл бұрын
No heavy lifting required. Appreciate you
What Van do you own/use? Any apps you use for loads? Thanks in advance. Great video & information. I appreciate your time
@shile_onie9016
2 жыл бұрын
What a great video. Please may I ask directly.... what type and model of van is best for out of state cargos. And which one is better on overhead. Thank you in advance.
@EverythingApax
2 жыл бұрын
@@shile_onie9016 I prefer the Transit but the sprinter by Mercedes has the longest cargo space.
Hello Boss, I and my friend are looking to start the cargo van business, he called a dispatch today and she said Cargo vans get paid 70 to 90 cent per mile, is that not too cheap?
I’m not trying to live in my van. I wanna come home every night. I wanna do Local currier work. Ford transit connect should do right??
Gmc savana heavy duty 🔥🔥🔥
Hey guys can someone help me with how to access a load board
Hi , to do expediting the van need to be new?
No sugar coating 😆
Is ok to get a 2017 transit 350 with the seats and gut it out? Any difference in weight carrying and motor?
@EverythingApax
2 жыл бұрын
You can definitely do that. I did it with my cargo vans when I first began.
Hello. How do you think how important is the opening radius of doors 180 or 253. I can't find a complete set with doors 253 degrees. I think 180 is quite enough, but I wanted to consult, thanks
@EverythingApax
3 жыл бұрын
180 will work but surprised you're having issues finding different.
@aleks2402
3 жыл бұрын
@@EverythingApax I surprised too. It has 3.5L PFDI and 253-DEGREE SWING-OUT. Or 3.5L ecoboost and 180-DEGREE SWING-OUT. So my choice is ecoboost. But the question with the doors torments me a little. I think that's enough. I talk about ford transit 350 extended base and high roof
You mean sir total cargo weight and the van should be 10000 below? What should you suggest Ford transit what model? Or Mercedes sprinter 170 high roof?
@EverythingApax
2 жыл бұрын
Ford Transit 350 high roof extended. The sprinter is also a good van just more expensive to repair.
When’s part two?
What you got 250 or 350? AWD or base? Is 6 cylinder best or can I go with a 4
@EverythingApax
2 жыл бұрын
All specs in the description.
If i want to be an owner operator, how do i find my own loads
Does it matter the age of it? I found a 2005 sprinter (dodge) for a decent price
@EverythingApax
2 жыл бұрын
Depends on the company/carrier you sign with. There is options for sure.
What if you only doing local runs. What side do you Recommend
@EverythingApax
2 жыл бұрын
Size? Really depends. You can get away with using personal vehicle. There is medical stuff. I'd look into local courier companies and see what is offered. Also look into the apps available such as goshare, frayt, etc
I run an Animal Transportation company out of my car and rent a lot. Im working on trying to repair my credit and build my buissness credit. I may be upsidedown about $4-8K on my car depending on the trade in. Im scared shit trying to buy the most expensive vehicle I ever own.
I think any Freightliner or TA/Petro can work on the Mercedes/Freightliner Sprinter.
@EverythingApax
3 жыл бұрын
How are the prices at TA?
@speedyfinalmile
3 жыл бұрын
I had Heavy Duty Straight trucks so as high as a dealership. Over the road you did not have much choice. They were quick and got you going faster. I did use a mom and pop place in Michigan if zi could make it. The money saved was often off set by downtime.
@speedyfinalmile
3 жыл бұрын
@Everything Apex TA is 24/7 so they can get it done faster and cut the downtime and hotel room cost.
@speedyfinalmile
3 жыл бұрын
Speed Co for oil changes and fluids. Loved that company home of the 40 minute heavy-duty oil change. Roadside was the most expensive. Worth it to get my guys moving again.
@EverythingApax
3 жыл бұрын
@@speedyfinalmile and that is definitely important and valuable.
I know someone in our fleet who decide to buy a Nissan because he had lots of problems with his Sprinter diesel. I didn't get a chance to talk to him the last time I saw him because were in the middle of a large shipment from a chartered jet full championship clothing. I don't have his contact info. Anyone here anything about these vans. They aren't the longest, but if they are better built and more reliable than the Promaster or Ford I might be a customer. I'd be sacrificing length but I can live with that if they are more reliable.
@abmtz8537
3 жыл бұрын
I believe they use the same 4.0L engines from the frontier, and according to Scotty Kilmer they are pretty reliable.
@yosquidd242
2 жыл бұрын
@@abmtz8537 Transmission? review it, I drove my company NV 3500 V8 Houston TX to Salt Lake City UT 3 times or more. So the cargo length should be longer, It only held 2 pallets on the floor, so stacked pallets of the same maybe 4 can be hauled if the tranny holds up. Comfortable until the wind moves it, Hightops sway some. Stay on top of hard plastic parts on the engine, those parts age fast from the normal engine heat like the oil fill spout breaks or the air filter housing breaks.
What kind of van you have?
So do used gasoline Ford transit?