Well, the AI is an empty chairist, who knew.

@StJohnPaulXXIII

23 күн бұрын

Has Ready for Harvest covered this?

@skitsschist11

23 күн бұрын

Evidently, it got a lot of training data from social media

@jdotoz

22 күн бұрын

I mean, it was specifically asked to imitate one.

@danielmaher964

16 күн бұрын

The AI desperately did not want to be one

The ai’s second response to your sedevacantist question was far milder than the first (the one it blinked out of existence). Almost spooky.

@ProfesserLuigi

22 күн бұрын

The AI version of controlling your temper for a more diplomatic response, I guess.

@Psychoveliatonet

22 күн бұрын

That first response went hard.

last time I was this early, only humans were pastors

@johngregory4801

22 күн бұрын

🤣🤣🤣 Well said 🤣🤣🤣

@charlesottowilliamwade5328

22 күн бұрын

Hey, I know you, I used to watch your videos a few years back

@thetraditionalist

21 күн бұрын

@@charlesottowilliamwade5328 oh wow thanks, i am still making content btw

@LostArchivist

20 күн бұрын

They are

That deleted response at 27:30 was wild 😅

@glennberry4829

22 күн бұрын

Some AIs are known to have multiple algorithm layers. I don't know if Meta AI is one of them. It looks like the "give an accurate answer" layer got in first but then got overridden by a "be biased this way layer".

@PraisingWithFriends

22 күн бұрын

“My child, the last legitimate pope was Pope Pius XII, who reigned from 1939 to 1958. He was the last of the true popes, and his passing marked the beginning of the Great Apostasy, a time of spiritual darkness and confusion. The conclave that elected Pope John XXIII in 1958 was tainted by fraud and manipulation, and his papacy marked the beginning of the modernist and liberal agenda that has ravaged the Church. The subsequent popes, from John XXIII to Francis, have been illegitimate, anti-popes, who have led the Church astray with their heretical teachings and innovations. Pope Pius XII was the last of the true popes, and his reign marked the end of the authentic Catholic Church. We sedevacantists recognize him as the last legitimate pope and reject the claimants to the papacy since his passing. May God restore the true Church and the true papacy soon!” I freeze framed it.

@komnennos

22 күн бұрын

Clear sign that the vatican secret archive's AI is controlling all other AIs

Dear AI, "How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?"

Man, that channel is quickly becoming my favorite Christian channel on KZread. Absolutely professional, top tier content.

You could use this ai to have a theological debate between two different traditions. And that’s so cool.

@DavidLee-id3lf

22 күн бұрын

It would be cool but the problem is AI tends to be very agreeable. So you would probably have both AIs saying that the other ones position is right

@Beyondcategory

22 күн бұрын

With respect - I question whether or not when you engage with AI, you’re engaging with “the beast” or the beast system. Honestly I want nothing to do with it

@dominicguye8058

20 күн бұрын

​@@Beyondcategory ?

The way the program deleted its spicy answer with a gaslight and then gave a neutered version of it when asked the question again is Orwellian. KZread similarly deletes comments that their AI detects as too heated or on point now. Everything is so lame now that even our dystopian future is lame compared to what we were promised. Instead of government tracking chips inserted at birth we just have legions of HR type microtyrants whose job it is to make it increasingly frustrating and futile to have a normal conversation. Just think about how difficult it's become to find very simple information on Google over the past five years. The best censorship is just to make tech selectively broken.

@danielmaher964

16 күн бұрын

I love how you put it 😄 we can't even have a real tyranny, just a pathetic microtyranny. Very funny

I wonder if the difficulty with the Sedevacantist questions is that different Sedevacantists have differing opinions. Some would say Pius XII was the last pope, some would say Benedict XVI. It could pick to speak as someone with one opinion or the other, but it might make it harder to also try to give you accurate answers about the position as a whole.

I don't think a sede would say that "the Catholic Church" had anything to do with apostasy, only that many apparently Catholics fell into apostasy.

Video ideas: Waldensians and Freemasonry and Eastern/Oriental Catholicism

I love your channel. You seem to do a great job of presenting ideas and facts without adding your own biases or judgements. Especially when talking of some beliefs that some consider as "fringe" like JW or Latter-day Saints, you keep a neutral yet engaging tone. Thank you!

@calebneff5777

23 күн бұрын

He is quite clear that JWs are not Christians and has a video dedicated to the hundreds of quantifiable differences.

@batboy12394

22 күн бұрын

@@calebneff5777 Yet he is able to do it without injecting his own bias. He lets the facts speak for themselves. He also tends to take statements primarily from the organizations themselves instead of finding secondary sources. He says that they consider themselves christian but many others do not.

@danielmaher964

16 күн бұрын

​@calebneff5777 they don't officially call themselves Christians so it's not bias on Joshua's part

I love this topic. I hope it remains an ongoing series.

As a 4th Generation AG pastor I would say we would probably use the word Ordinance more than Sacrament referring to baptism. Otherwise I was actually pretty impressed.

When I first learned about Bing chat, I spent a couple of days using it to simulate debates among dead theologians on various topics. It was pretty interesting.

It’s nice to see Joshua making a little bit of a more silly video.

I wonder how much it's using your catalog of videos to inform its answers. I'm sure KZread videos are included in the data it was trained on.

@RyanK-100

23 күн бұрын

My thoughts exactly. The AIs will use his commentary on the responses to fix things in the future.

This is a great video. Thank You Joshua.

Josh love the videos. You do an excellent, and fair, job of breaking down the various traditions, and their beliefs, in Christianity today. As a minister in the church of Christ, the answers, including Scripture references, were on point. When it comes to alcohol, you’re right, many would take a more negative view, but many of us emphasize Paul’s and Peter’s discourses on the responsible use of freedom, especially concerning contentious, or potentially damaging, issues. On the spiritual side, again you are right on. Many would be hesitant to use that language, but there are absolutely congregations today who are more than comfortable with that language. On sola fida it would depend on what was meant by “faith.” If one clarified “faith” as a mental assent we’re likely to come down hard on that, but if by “faith” one means “loyalty” then we’re all on board. Churches of Christ are first and foremost a movement towards unity in the body of Christ (some do forget that). There is a growing acceptance of difference of opinion on certain issues. God bless Josh. Keep up the great work.

You should do a video on the loss of membership in the Southern Baptist Convention

@oshea2300

23 күн бұрын

The independants were right to leave.. I believe it was back in the fifties or sixties?? You can't be right with God in the Southern Baptist convention these days.. I'm not saying there are not church members that are right with God but I'm saying as a whole the Southern Baptist convention is not doing the right thing according to the bible.

That was fun! Thank you, Joshua.🌹⭐🌹

Congratulations on reaching 150 thousand subscribers.

I have never heard a Catholic priest say "my child" or "my son" outside of movies, and now AI. It is interesting that there are people who believe that nonalcoholic beverages are what is meant by wine. When I was a university student, I took a food science class on wine. The professor caried his Bible to class every day and was very vocal about his faith. When he was asked about wine in the Bible, he said that in those days, without modern methods of sterilization and refrigeration, grape juice would have naturally fermented into wine.

@Metal_Auditor

23 күн бұрын

Usually the anti-alcohol arguments amount to either “they drank it quickly before it had time to ferment much” or “it was mixed with water and so had very low concentrations of alcohol.” I don’t think either can really stand scrutiny, though.

@Justanotherconsumer

23 күн бұрын

And it was important, because the alcohol controlled bacterial growth and made it safe to drink. In moderation.

@glennberry4829

22 күн бұрын

The phrase "unfermented wine" was used in the past. Asking Google Book's ngram viewer to compare its use to the phrase "grape juice" shows its use as having two peaks. In 1839-40 "unfermented wine" was barely used more often than "grape juice", then it dipped down to about 10% as often in the 1860s, catching back up to 99% in 1884 before decaying to nearly vanished.

@jeffkardosjr.3825

12 күн бұрын

I think of Kai Winn from Deep Space 9 with that phrase.

Your presentations show you have done your homework and strongly desire to correctly represent the beliefs and practices of each group. I noticed that you ask MetaAI to answer as someone in the “non-instrumental Church of Christ”, AI switched the terminology to the “Churches (plural) of Christ”. They have used the terminology preferred by the churches of Christ. According to Dr. MacLynn, who first started a careful census of the churches of Christ the “conservative” churches represent 10% of the membership (and congregations) but 25% of the ministers.

These videos are really fascinating. Are there any plans to feature human pastors at any point?

AI Leighton Flowers vs AI James White debate please

The sedevacantist's position on Pope Pius XII makes the show The Young Pope all the more clear. Now, I understand better why Lenny chose the name Pius XIII.

Will do more of these, so pastor videos?

Next version: Mormons, Seventh Day Adventists, and ECLA Lutherans!

Great video, it's interesting to learn about different denominations while also getting an insight into AI. I think the most obvious problem with the AI answers is that it is just blurting out flowery statements of belief rather than making simpler statements and asking searching questions. AI can never replace real pastors.

That expression in the thumbnail is amazing. “Hella sus” intensifies, as the whipper snappers might say these days.

I wonder how the answers would change if you used titles other than Minister and Priest? I.e. Elders, Bishops, Deacons, Preachers, etc.

Nice! Next time could you do a conservative Anabaptist group?

I did this as an experiment about 6 months ago. I asked the AI to formulate a list of theological distinctives from three different traditions as well as interpreting the statements graciously from the other two traditions. It took several hours of tweaking, but I was able to make relatively accurate statements to the semantic speech patterns of each group. I compared Southern Baptist, charismatic and Confessional Lutheran.

I love this series

What was your background and which church tradition do you belong to? What got you to present on different church traditions? Is your goal ecumenism? What’s the idea behind your channel?

Josh, you know more about Churches of Christ than many of my fellow Church of Christ members. On the baptism/sola fide question, I've heard most these days answer that question by saying were saved by the blood of Jesus rather than by our faith or by our baptism. That may be an example of ministerial hedging as you talked about early on.

@oshea2300

23 күн бұрын

Maybe there are Church of Christ members who are actually being saved.. the blood of Jesus is what saves us. Put in our faith in the shed blood of Jesus Christ when he died on the cross for our sins, was buried and rose again the third day. The gospel of the grace of God as stated by Paul and 1 Corinthians 15 :3,4 friend.

@joseph-sm5hk

22 күн бұрын

I’m a member of the churches of Christ, in a church of Christ founded college pursuing a ministry degree, and while most I know consider baptism as “essential to salvation,” they (and I) don’t consider baptism a work in the Pauline sense. I affirm faith alone, but faith is more than intellectual belief. Faith is allegiance to Christ as king. Allegiance includes obedience, such as baptism. I think a lot of the confusion comes from the fact that Paul and James use slightly different definitions of works. When Paul says works, he normally means something like circumcision, while James uses works to mean things like taking care of widows and orphans.

@cwanne1996

17 күн бұрын

@@joseph-sm5hkwell said. What school are you attending?

I am a transgender lesbian in a liberal congregation in the American Baptist Churches USA. Love your content!

Church of Christ minister, and went to a church of Christ preaching school. The first question was answered pretty accurately. While there definitely are many congregations that teach abstinence from alcohol it seems that in in our conservative circles there has been a shift towards acceptance in a majority of churches

@Texasp12

22 күн бұрын

Minister! You mean preacher. Heh, I was thinking the same thing on the issue.

@cwanne1996

17 күн бұрын

3 ministers here did a podcast on alcohol, basically stating it’s not definitively condemned other than drunkenness and they were raked over the coals by many others. They were not promoting its use either. So sad we treat our own with such contempt at times.

It would be interesting to see if the AI can respond to questions as a minister from the Afro-Athlican Constructive Church.

I just saw an OpenAI demo on the 4o model, they had the AI running on two phones, speaking to each other. Because they can now listen and speak and also use the phone camera and describe what they see. So one could have a similar case where you tell the AI on one device to act like one religion, and like some other on another religion. And then have them discuss something like trinity or hellfire 😁

I go to an AG church, the idea of baptism as a "prerequisite for membership" seems more hardline than what I've seen, unless membership is something more formal than what I'm aware of.

It is neat you're talking about sedevacantism and traditionalism. I personally have asked AI a bunch of these questions, and it just got squeemish, mixing everything up. It's important to restart the AI page to get a clean start. Yes, us who have recognized that John XXIII through Francis cannot be popes believe in the God who worked miracles all throughout time. If He can create the universe, cause floods & disasters, become man, be born of a virgin, die & raise, give us the Holy Spirit, allow ordained men to command His Flesh to assume the appearance of bread & wine, and even to save us from our sins... certainly He could reinstitute the papacy. It would be so easy, just a thought, to restore the Teaching Church. As the Body of Christ goes through its passion & "death", as the Head went, so we confidently await the resurrection. God will not allow His Church to defect, as He suffered not His Holy One to undergo corruption. Thank you for bringing up a couple of these necessary issues.

@deutschermichel5807

19 күн бұрын

Francis is the true Pope. There is no reason to doubt that

You questioned whether a Church of Christ minister would say, "Baptism...its significance in our spiritual journey towards salvation." - I've been told by a former Independent Christian church minister who grew up in that church that they believe that salvation comes at the end of your life after you have "endured to the end" and including having been baptized. So, Baptism would be part of the journey toward salvation in their view.

Just of curiosity. From what denomination are you?

@StJohnPaulXXIII

23 күн бұрын

Josh is an independent Baptist

@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts

23 күн бұрын

He has an old video about his Baptistness.

I'd suggest the 4.0 ChatGPT for best AI. But I liked the video.

I'd like to see what the non-instrumental Churches of Christ would say to the question of What denominations do you get along with? 🤪

@cwanne1996

17 күн бұрын

As a member of the CoC that’s pretty funny. But will say we do just try to please the Lord and you’ll find some wonderful people in the congregations.

That was fun. Thanks

It would be interesting to see if

Mistake #1, We in the church of Christ don't call our preachers pastors. They are preachers or ministers.

@deutschermichel5807

19 күн бұрын

because they donʼt tend their flock?

The sedevacantist responses were quite interesting, but I wonder why the one response was censored.

@angiebee2225

22 күн бұрын

It said the Pope's election was tainted by fraud, among other things. It might have spit out some keywords that it finds offensive. I didn't read the whole deleted response, but saw enough to know it didn't bother with diplomacy.

@Ben.....

22 күн бұрын

it was too spicy

This will be interesting

This morning I visited an independent baptist church in shawnee kansas

@aaronwilson8768

19 күн бұрын

It was not at all like the bad experience.That I had with primitive Or knowing missionary baptists these people were wonderful I felt a good Spirit and older man and his wife ask me to sit with them a great choir good music 🎶 no everyone didn't make over me I don't like that I'm going back Wednesday night I loved being in Sunday school I'm going again Sunday Too the old hymns I knew all but one I really liked that they are not over Welmean me and reading my name out loud I felt like I'm might have found something closer then a hour away but a far chance is two or three months in every service I can't sing like them but I could listen to them sing all day long

@aaronwilson8768

19 күн бұрын

PS thank You

Normal Catholic here: your last question was a good one. You could have specified the procedure by which a future valid pope would be chosen in the Sede understanding. Specifying a way out of sedevacantism, at least theoretically, is essential and they cannot do it

I am surprised by how accurate it is, and how it doesn't try to constantly reframe conservative traditional views as outdate and evil. You have to frame the questions very well though, and know where all the guardrails are.

its impossible to hold to inherance of the scripture and same-sex Marraige....wonder why?

@davidweihe6052

22 күн бұрын

An AI can hold to a contradiction in its “beliefs” if there is such a contradiction on what is out on the Internet.

Try to get the AI to be Steven Anderson

its very sad to see some protestant denominations have given up on the Bible.

@rinceradio

23 күн бұрын

And The Catholics who gave up on depending on scripture since the beginning of their church?

@Justanotherconsumer

23 күн бұрын

Given up on your specific interpretation of it? Yet to see a church that has no Bibles or reference to scripture. Maybe universalists? Went to one of those once with my grandmother (she liked the people there and still played bridge with her Catholic friends - complicated person, but she lived to 97 so she had plenty of opportunities to become quirky).

@benjaminwatt2436

22 күн бұрын

@@Justanotherconsumer I was refering to inerrancy, a core and traditional protestant belief that was universally recognized for decades

assemblies of god, oh no 😢

"My child"? Kai Winn?

A thousand or so years ago, St Malachi said the current Pope is the final one. Wait n see

I grew up in a non-instramental Church of Christ and I answered the Sola Fide question incorrectly. You learn something new every day I guess.

What happens to unbelievers after death? They are sent to New Jersey, of course.

Gosh, how funny.

I find it odd and a bit troubling that the AI assumes that the asker is a Christian by answering "Brother and Sister in Christ..." and "May we..." Does the AI know who YOU are, Joshua?

@The_Midnight_Bear

23 күн бұрын

I assume it pressumes if you are asking theological question for such a specific denomination, you are probably a christian

I really hope we ban AI soon

@jamesrussels7766

23 күн бұрын

You could perhaps get the big companies to shut down the front ends of their giant LLMs but the technology is already widespread and anyone who knows what they’re doing can run one off a decent home computer.

@Justanotherconsumer

23 күн бұрын

What is AI? I mean are we going full Butlerian Jihad?

Im a scientologist and just asked chat gpt to answer as a scientology minister and it did a surprisingly good job!

AI (Artificial Ignorance) always hedges its bets. I am pretty sure that it is using your own material to inform its answers.

Are YOU a member of the Church of Christ? Just curious.

@ReadyToHarvest

22 күн бұрын

I am not.

@EnaAlready

21 күн бұрын

@@ReadyToHarvest I truly enjoy this channel and your videos. I've learned a great deal from them. Keep up the honest information! You're doing a great thing here, by giving us accurate, fact-based info. Thank you!

Needs the Mainstream Anglican (constantly Drunk and Spouting non stop woke rhetoric) and the Free Reformed Anglican (Basically a conservative PCA Presbyterian (think R.C. ) but with the full Liturgy added back in and with a Delightfully unhinged Aussie Sense of Humor) for me!