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@RomanPaganChurch

Жыл бұрын

Dude, outstanding work.

@almostlivechannelkjlw-42pr4

Жыл бұрын

I really enjoyed this video I am a SBC PASTOR I love learning about this stuff

@SeaJay_Oceans

Жыл бұрын

I love Calvin's stuffed Tiger, Hobbes. :-)

@waltercommunitycollege1615

Жыл бұрын

Where did you get the shirt that you wear in this video from?

@snipeswashere

4 ай бұрын

Where would you place Full Gospel Baptist?

Once upon a time, a Baptist got stranded on a deserted island. Years later he was rescued. As he was showing the rescuers his buildings, he pointed out that this was the 2nd Baptist Church. They noticed an exact styled bamboo building up the hill and asked him what that building was. He replied, "Oh, that's 1st Baptist Church, I don't go there any more." 😮

@tjenadonn6158

11 ай бұрын

What do you get when you stick two Baptists in a room together? Five new Baptist denominations.

@patrickvalentino600

11 ай бұрын

Once upon a time 10 men got stranded in a desert island. After a while, irreconcilable differences among them arose and half of them set sail for a further island. A few years later, more disputes arose and two of the men set sailed for a third island. Even among these two, disagreements came up and single man left for an even further island. But every night he could see the lights from the mainland, and wondered how he could get back. Little did he know there were people on the mainland waiting for him to come back too.

@tracimarks8009

9 ай бұрын

😂…I’m a Southern Baptist and I think this is funny.

@worlddaves

6 ай бұрын

😂

When you hit "Progressive Primitive Baptist," i burst out laughing. It gets ridiculous after a while.

@r.d.whitaker5787

Жыл бұрын

Same here 👋 I had a mental image of a caveman earnestly studying Richard Cizick and Valarie Kaur.

@borderlands6606

Жыл бұрын

Also, "Moderately Calvinist"(!?!)

I’m glad you spent some time on the historically black churches. They’re huge but often overlooked

@brianrich7828

Ай бұрын

There’s a bunch of Missionary Baptist Churches in my area.

I am a current member of a Free Will Baptist Church that is part of the NAFWB, (and yes we do participate in feet-washing and it is a blessing)... but let's always remember that it's not denomination that saves it's our faith in what Jesus Christ Our Lord and Savior did for us on the cross

@janetprice85

Жыл бұрын

Me too. Love the church but your right it's Jesus that saves.

@brianciofani4698

Жыл бұрын

FWB is a great group!!

@bwc6520

Жыл бұрын

I have been Baptist all my life having been a member of two churches. Both line up doctrinaly and I would consider them the following: 1. Landmark, because we believe our theology is consistent and can be traced back to the church in Acts. I don't consider us protestant and not having come out of the reformation. 2. We are neither Calvinist or Arminian (Arminianism is just an offshoot of Calvanism). I would consider us provisionists. We believe in eternal security, although not for the reason as Calvinists. 3. We are libritarian freewill, evangelical, and independent. I enjoyed the video

@redstateforever

Жыл бұрын

I grew up in a FWB church, the feet washing, which is usually once a year, is always an incredible experience. It’s so humbling, both to wash another’s feet and to have your own done as well. Always need lots of Kleenex on hand for that one, for the men and women, lol. Idk why other churches don’t do it (Jesus literally said to do it), you don’t HAVE to participate if you don’t want to, but it was always a time of real connection as believers, both to each other and to God.

@tasmanian5566

Жыл бұрын

​@@redstateforever tissues because people would cry?

I loved living in Spain in the mid-80s. The Spanish simply asked if I were a Christian or a Muslim. Sometimes it was difficult to break away from a conversation regarding Jesus and the Scriptures because of the thirst and hunger of those I would meet. Conversations could go on for hours upon hours.

Another great video. I’ve been waiting for this one. So many Baptists.

@epicmangames8234

Жыл бұрын

Bruh it says that message was ten days ago???

@liamhenson7146

Жыл бұрын

@@epicmangames8234 That’s kinda weird.

Saw a Reformed Baptist Church today and excitedly returned here to refresh on its details.

As a Baptist history nut, I was curious to see how you would bring together this vast jigsaw puzzle of Baptists in a short video. Did not think it could be done adequately in this amount of time, but you surprised me! This may be one of the best simple explanations of Baptists I've seen in a long time. I am one of those "provisionists" within the SBC, so I would only counter that the belief in the security of the believer from our point of view is not the same as the Calvinist "perseverance of the saints." There are some critical differences, which leads us to believe we have no agreement whatsoever with the five points of Calvinism. Some attempt to bridge the gap for the sake of unity and peace within the denomination, leading to key leaders of the denomination touting some commonality between the two. But this only comes from those who do not understand the full definitions and teachings behind the catch phrases. I look forward to more of your videos!

I was baptized in a Missionary Baptist in 1972. I think the pastor was secretly a fan of Chuck Smith & Greg Laurie. We had drums & guitars! And I remember the 1st time I wore blue jeans to church!

@GuyRoberts-bk6qd

20 күн бұрын

What can you tell me about the difference between Missionary Baptist and Independent Baptist ?

I was saved and baptized in a small Southern Baptist church. Spent my teenage and young adult years in Baptist Missionary Association churches and earned a Bachelor’s degree from a BMA college and served on the ministry staff of two BMA churches. When I decided to pursue a graduate degree I enrolled in a Southern Baptist seminary and earned a Master’s degree, served on ministry staff of five SBC churches. I also was in attendance at the organizational meeting of the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship. I expected to see Southern Baptist in the list, didn’t expect but wasn’t surprised to see the Baptist Missionary Association since they are small and are hard to find outside of the Deep South. It really surprised me to see the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship as that organizational meeting was in 1990 so it isn’t very old. I commend you for your thorough research and understanding.

Episcopal Baptists? Now I've seen everything.

@williamjarrell8475

Жыл бұрын

When three or four are gathered do you expect a fifth?

@Mkvine

Жыл бұрын

@@williamjarrell8475 seems like inflation keeps going up

@RonAllenTaylor

Жыл бұрын

Penicostal Apostolic-Evangelical pastoral-teaching full gospel baptist church, with tongue-talker Bob.

@Coolrunnings007

10 ай бұрын

In some parts of world those are the only type.

@Ggdivhjkjl

Ай бұрын

Wait til you hear about the Baptist monastery in Australia.

Attending college in Huntsville, TX in the early 80s, everyone in town became well aware of the New Zion Missionary Baptist Church. We all had our faiths, but we all became adherents of "The Church of the Immaculate Bar-B-Que". This small, black Baptist church, with it's very old church house with peeling paint...started having Sunday afternoon BBQ offerings and started selling it. As a poor college student, it was heavenly to got this this place and get a plate piled with brisket, beans, and potato salad for a mere $6. As I understand it, they continued to grow and offer lunch and dinner all week Good for them!! The last time I drove through Huntsville, they had either totally renovated their church house, or had built a new one. I think they have the absolute best brisket in Texas, and it's a very good cause.

I had the best of two worlds growing up. I attended a Free Will Baptist School M - F and was a member of a “big Baptist” Southern Baptist Church for Church and social events. I loved it! As a proud “backrow Baptist”😂, my joke was if anyone uttered an “Amen” or anything other than a group response to the Pastor, everyone would turn around and say “who said that??”😂🙌🏻🙌🏻👏👏 And we Southern Baptists pride ourselves on Sunday service ALWAYS ending promptly at Noon!!😂🙏🏼🙏🏼🙌🏻

@bonniemoerdyk9809

Жыл бұрын

Our standard saying at my church (Church of God), was "Well, let's wrap things up and meet for lunch down at Monical's Pizza before the Baptist's get there! 😂😂

@lizabethgussman331

Жыл бұрын

And the Wednesday night dinners!

@namuhtsuj4025

8 ай бұрын

I went to a Church of Christ high school during the week and a Free Will Baptist church on Sunday and Wednesday. Gave me wonderful perspective on the minutia contained within Christianity.

@clevelandlindseyjr4780

4 ай бұрын

​@@namuhtsuj4025what was the school name

I've been a Baptist all my life - was in 'cradle roll' when I was an infant - and baptized when I was five. I was raised Southern Baptist ; mostly in Portland, Oregon if that sounds odd. I've been asked this very question - why so many? - many times. The short answer is perhaps the most useful. Doctrine is pretty similar in all subgroups. The triune God, the natural instinct to ignore God and make our own choices, and the gift of God to forgive our sins as humans. There are some activity differences - like how often to celebrate the Lord's Supper (or Communion for some), or how often to have baptismal services. Of course the need for baptism, not for salvation but as an act of obedience and commitment is constant. (That's why they are all 'Baptists'). Some congregations have either a demand or preference for the KJV, some don't. Differences. 1. How individual church congregations govern themselves. SoBaps hold a monthly business meeting allowing all members of the church to attend, but not mandatory. That is to determine budgets, call a new pastor (if needed), vote on remodeling and those kind of decisions. Other groups have congregations with a board of deacons or elders as an essential governing board. Usually, all major money spending issues go to a general vote. 2. How individual congregations finance their missionaries.

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@ReadyToHarvest

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Max!

Very fascinating video. I was raised in a subset of Missionary Baptists that also call themselves "Old Time Baptists". They have a heavy emphasis on an emotional conversion experience being necessary for salvation, and reject the sinner's prayer. I think at one time they might have been Landmark Baptists, but the Baptist successionism doctrine seems to have faded away. Origins of all these Baptist groups can be hard to parse through. It's great to have concise videos like yours to watch and learn from.

@timothyowen4503

Жыл бұрын

I'm very curious. My mom grew up in a church that sounds like what you described. Where was the church you were raised in? She was raised in Sweeden Missionary Baptist Church in Edmonson County, KY. I'm not a Baptist but was very influenced by stories she told me of her childhood. She never mentioned anything that sounded like Landmarkism. So if they ever believed that, she didn't pick it up. They also did not wash feet like a lot of Missionary Baptist churches around here (Upper East Tennessee).

@mmeeehhh

Жыл бұрын

​@@timothyowen4503I know of that church in Edmonson county. That's just the sort of Baptists I'm talking about. I live in a neighboring Kentucky county. I once saw a copy of the trail of blood chart in a church basement of a Missionary Baptist church, but never heard it preached on explicitly or taught. I have a feeling that Baptist successionism is one of those ideas that is sort of slowly fading away, especially since almost none of these churches believe in formally educating their clergy. It's hard to maintain a belief like that if you don't educate people. As far as foot washing goes, that tends to be the domain of the United Baptists here while the Missionary Baptists have communion without footwashing. The United Baptists here have the same salvation theology as the Missionary, but have other minor differences.

@RonKris

Жыл бұрын

@@timothyowen4503 I have a friend/family member that considers himself a Missionary Baptist and attends a Missionary Baptist church in North Georgia. They have foot washing and only use the King James Bible. Additionally, the preacher preaches preterism. When I first heard the teaching I thought there was a mistake considering the label Baptist, however, that is their belief.

THANK YOU Joshua. I have been anxious to see a video like this on various Baptists for a long time.

Thank you! This truly cleared things up about Baptists😊❤

Josh, thank you so much for trying to sort out all this very confusing material. Makes my head spin!

Thanks brother. These are helpful to many.

What I have learned is that the term "Baptist", by itself, doesn't mean much. I am a part of the Free Methodist Church and the term Methodist seems like it is becoming that way, especially with everything happening in the United Methodist Church.

@litigioussociety4249

Жыл бұрын

Originally, Baptist churches were basically those that descended from the English separatist movement. Similarly, Methodist is historically associated with John Wesley. As you said, the more progressive congregations are really just connected in name only. I attend a Lutheran church, and that too has a historical moment with its origin based around The Book of Concord, but the progressive denominations like the ELCA don't view the book as strict, church doctrine. It's a huge disservice to a denomination for some churches to use the name in a way that does not reflect its historical definition or association.

@Essex626

Жыл бұрын

"Baptist" by itself does mean a few things: 1. It means credobaptism, not pedobaptism. 2. It means an emphasis on a personal conversion experience, rather than an identity you are born into. 3. It means a broadly congregational polity, where the denominational bodies (when they exist) are conventions or associations which do not exercise authority over member churches. 4. Generally, it means not accepting ongoing sign gifts. Many Charismatic denominations hold broadly Baptistic theology, but are distinct in the belief in gifts like tongues and healing. Most non-denominational Evangelical churches are Baptistic, or they are Baptistic Charismatics. There are churches that hold to these things which are not Baptist, but it's hard to imagine a church that is Baptist that doesn't hold to these things.

@williamjarrell8475

Жыл бұрын

@@Essex626 You could have included religious freedom which is a corollary of points 2 and 3.

@janetprice85

Жыл бұрын

My Mom was a member of the old Methodist Episcopal Church before it became UMC. I attended the UMC and SBC as a teen. Then became a member of the FWB Church which to me combines the best of church structure and theology of Baptist structure with Free Will Wesleyan traditions in theology..

I love your videos my brother! I’m a Primitive Baptist that learns a lot from your content.

@janeyue7491

9 ай бұрын

I consider myself closer to the PB beliefs that doesn’t attend a church. Issue is that I just unwilling to settle into anything else, and the long distance to get to and from church is my problem here.

There's one additional predominantly black Baptist denomination among the three that you mentioned, which has an episcopal structure with bishops, and embraces many Pentecostal beliefs, and that is the Full Gospel Baptist Church Fellowship.

Great information. I was in an IFB (independent fundamental Baptist) church for 14 years. I graduated from one of their schools: Bob Jones University. It claims to be non-denominational, but all the churches on the approved church list to attend for campus students were some form of Independent Baptist or Bible Baptist. You could do an entire episode on fundamentalism or Independent Baptists because of all the different "camps" and I have to say it, "personality cults." While I was at BJU I heard what I thought were "rumors and gossip" about certain churches and the school associated with them that had to do with a lot of unbiblical and even abusive stuff.

@jondstewart

6 ай бұрын

Yes, indeed! That Lester Roloff dude from the 1970’s that had those radio broadcasts was one of the most bigheaded people in that movement. He pretended to be kind and humble in many interviews, but was a control freak, overall. And his rigid diet plans could never been seen as the way because he died in a plane crash.

@projectjster

Ай бұрын

I grew up in a SBC church and attended a Baptist school (not from the church I attended) all their books were from BJU and I often wondered what type of Baptists they were. Now I believe I know.

@brianrich7828

Ай бұрын

Independent Baptists are non denominational. So your comment couldn’t get the first thing right.

@theologynerd1689

Ай бұрын

@@brianrich7828 hi my friend, you do know that Baptist is a denomination or sect right? IFB churches are so similar in what they teach and their practices that they very well could be their own denomination. So much so that my former pastor was considering and talking with his deacons about calling themselves "unaffiliated Baptists."

@brianrich7828

Ай бұрын

@@theologynerd1689 Independent Baptists are “Independent” and are non denominational. Southern Baptists are Denominational on the other hand.

I'm a Black Missionary Baptist and you got my Head Spinning!!!

Spending most of my life in ABA churches, most of them were called Missionary Baptist. However, since there are many black Pentecostal churches in the South using the name "Missionary Baptist", a lot of Landmark churches have dropped the "Missionary" from their names. Growing up, I heard my grandparents talk a lot about New Lighters, Hard Shells, Calvinists, and Pentecostals.

This content is so fascinating

I enjoy your videos. I find them very well researched. I'm getting up in age, so you look like you could hardly be out of college, much less seminary. But I suspect you've been and done well. Keep learning and sharing!!

Yikes! On the one hand I'm delighted that you have been able to provide so much information to so many people. On the other hand, I can't begin to process the information as fast as you are providing it.

When I became active in Protestantism and left Roman Catholicism I was drawn to the Baptist Church because I became greatly influenced in the study of the Scriptures in the Holy Bible. Although I believed in the "Body of Christ", I cherished visiting and Corporate Worship with any Believers who followed the Gospels and Teachings of the Bible. For some time, I visited many local Baptist Churches in the Eastern Massachusetts Area. I was amazed in the different "Twist" of the Baptist Church which depended upon the specific church. The differences in Baptist Churches were amazing. Thank you.

@justthink8952

Жыл бұрын

I am a Catholic and I feel sad that you left the Church. I believe you will have some good reasons for leaving it. Anyway, have you give a thought to the theology of Protestantism? Have you noticed that their ideologies were designed to counter the Catholic teachings? What type of spirit will inspire it? Bible alone and free interpretation of the Bible were designed to undermine the teaching authority of the Bishops. Abolishing of priesthood was to accommodate the teaching against the Eucharist and Confession. The doctrine of faith alone and the atonement of past, present and future sins by the sacrificial death of Christ on the cross was to undermine the teaching of salvation by love & mercy and the teaching on purgatory. It is nice to hear Jesus paid the price of our sins in full by his death on the cross. But then if Jesus had paid the price of sin in full, where is the room for salvation by grace? There was no grace and there is no need of grace if the debt has been paid in full. And if the doctrine of purgatory is false, when do final sanctification of a person takes place so that he is fit to enter heaven? It is at the moment of being born again or at the time of death or at the time of burial or after death? If it is after death, then somehow purgatory idea seem to be true. The Bible says, for without holiness, no one will see the Lord. The doctrine of imputation is also too arrogant. Does Jesus owed us to impute his righteousness on us because he bore all our sins on the cross? Which will be more appropriate - Jesus imputing his righteousness on us or Jesus cleansing us by his power? Jesus died for all. He had borne the sins of the whole world, not just for believers. So, if Jesus paid it all, then all should be saved but it is not the case. Hence, there is an error in the teaching of protestants. I wish you would do some more reflection.

@benjaminrush4443

Жыл бұрын

@@justthink8952 Thank you for your reply. One thing that I admire id the Priest will hold your confidentiality regardless. Another wonderful aspect to Catholicism is that it is Universal. When all Masses were in Latin - Old Days. I've visited different Baptist churches in one town! I've had people tell me secrets that I will take to the grave. Not Protestants - even Ministers and Chaplains in the US Military. I've seen them "Sell" fellow Baptist "Down the River". Not a Catholic Priest. Originally, I would attend any Christian - including Catholic - Service of Worship or Corporate Praise as part of the "Body of Christ". Anyways. Thank you. Much - not all - of American Protestantism is "Wanting". There is a few things in Catholicism that I find hard to accept. Oh well.

@justthink8952

Жыл бұрын

@@benjaminrush4443 Thank you for your reply. If you wish to speak about difficulty of some teachings, then I would like to discuss. As for conduct of men and the way of worship, there is plenty to critique for all Churches including the Catholics. We Catholics repeat so many prayers without knowing the meanings and most of the priests don't bother to teach them. For example, I believe majority of Catholics do not know well about immaculate conception of Mary etc.

@RumorHazi

Жыл бұрын

So when did you leave Catholicism?

@chimeremnmaozioko17

10 ай бұрын

You're entitled to your own opinion, but doesn't it seem weird and a little suspicious if Baptist churches don't all believe in the same thing? How can they be a united force when they don't agree on some key issues. Like if they all have "twists," as you said, then none of them are sure of what they're preaching.

My family has a strong General Baptist heritage on both my parents’ sides, and it was indeed a GB church that I was born into. Outside of the General Association, I don’t often come across anyone who knows what General Baptist is, so it’s kinda cool to hear it mentioned in a video! Thanks for your overview!

There was a church in the county south of mine that split in two in 1837, with one becoming Missionary Baptist and the other becoming Primitive Baptist. I have relatives in both.

@bonniemoerdyk9809

Жыл бұрын

My 4th or 5th Grandfather Ephraim Sanford of New York state was a minister in the Baptist faith when that happened...he stayed with the Primitive branch, feeling Sunday School was a man-made invention. His grandson chose another denomination in the mid 1800s when he moved into a sparsely settled area of central Illinois. There was only one church, called a Union Church and different ministers would take turns using the building.

I clicked this video wearing my sdb sweatshirt thinking we wouldn’t be mentioned bc no one ever does and im ngl i had a lil bit of a fangirl moment seeing our denomination up there😭

@GerardPerry

Жыл бұрын

😅

Thank you for this! I just found you over on the Matt "Useful Charts" channel. I've found a lot of baptist preachers in my family tree and it's hard to figure out what type they all were 😂

@ReadyToHarvest

Жыл бұрын

You are welcome Rebecca, and glad you found the channel!

Very useful. Thank you 😊

Hat tip my friend. This was great.

Thank you for this, Josh. I hadn't realised that that Baptists were as diverse as this!

Greetings from a IFB (Independent Fundamental Baptist) church in Mexico! Nice video! I've always wanted to know what is the difference between all kinds of Baptist churches, such an informative video!

Great video! I would add the Conservative Baptist - think of Myron Cederholm and Maranatha Baptist Bible College- that came from GARB and American Baptist roots. Would be interesting as well to include some the colleges started by each group. 👍🏾

This is one of those videos I have to rewatch a few times, maybe even take notes.

Excellent video!

As a proud and devout member of the North American Baptist Conference I was thrilled to see Joshua mention us. We are 65,000 members strong and adhere to the Word of God but don't make the same amount of noise as say the SBC.

love this channel

Whew! Whirlwind tour, thank you Joshua.

Loved it. Thank you!

@ReadyToHarvest

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Pixie! I was hoping you were still watching, have noticed you less often on the poll questions. :-)

@pixieburton3131

Жыл бұрын

@@ReadyToHarvest I would never miss your videos!! I am afraid I do need a break from the polls. Once I am refreshed I will return!

@davidjanbaz7728

Жыл бұрын

@@ReadyToHarvest as someone who grew up in the Conservative Baptist Association: I liked your video on their name change and why the church of my youth changed their name but maybe are still in the same denomination. People were surprised on Dr.Gavin Ortlund's channel: mostly non Protestants that Some Baptists still believed in tongues. Perfect video for them as I suggested they check out your channel.

Good information 🇹🇹

In 1992, Bishop Paul S. Morton helped to co-found the Full Gospel Baptist Church Fellowship, which is a schism from the Missionary Baptist Church that was part of the National Baptist Convention. My dad was a member of Greater Saint Stephen when it was Missionary Baptist and when it became a new denomination as Full Gospel Baptist Church Fellowship. The main difference to me is FGBCF is more music and inspiration focused than the MBC. My grandmother is MBC, & one of my uncle is Primitive Baptist Church, so I have experience with these three Baptist Church traditions. I have met some seventh day Baptist, seven word Baptist, & American Baptist. They're all very similar in being Sola Scriptural, and not into systematic theology.

Another wonderful video, congrats! Nice to know how the Baptists are being spread out mostly in the US. But, as ever, those Churches would, with some coloring levels to identify themselves within the 3 main Protestant types of Church spread in the US as defined by the Pew Forum: There are both Baptists in the mainstream tradition, Baptists in the Evangelical tradition, and Baptists in the traditionally black Churches tradition. Perhaps it would facilitate to viewers if in next videos of same type to make the diagram of the Churches by identifying them across those 3 categories. Thanks in advance and have a nice day!...

this was such an interesting panorama. thank you! i say so because, in brazil, there are really only two types of baptists: calvinists (represented mainly by the brazilian baptist convention, cbb in portuguese) and arminian-pentecostals (represented mainly by the national baptist convention, cbn in portuguese). there are smaller baptist denominations here too, but nowhere near as expressive. the alliance of baptists, for example, has a very tiny presence here, that doesn't rival even a single multi-site church in the cbn.

@jerrybell3600

Жыл бұрын

Look

@TheLeftRbabieskillers

Жыл бұрын

Give it time, they gonna be as many as the stars in a few years, that is a logical outcome of the ideology of "sola scriptura".

@joellewis6086

Жыл бұрын

@@TheLeftRbabieskillers There are only two possible relationships between men and Scripture; either men judge Scripture, or men are judged by Scripture. No matter how the argument is framed, there is no escaping the impact of the closed cannon that is affirmed on all sides. The Old Testament looked forward to the incarnation; the new looks back to it and considers it's import. Genesis starts the narrative of God's relationship with man - starting with creation - and contains the seed of every doctrine of Scripture, and Revelation looks back from the end of the story and the beginning of what comes after, and with a bit of reflection and study, you could deduce the entirety of the the fundamentals of the faith from Romans and Genesis one 1-3 alone. You can't assert the need for a unique, corporate, inspired consensus interpretation of the Scriptures without claiming to that consensus the sam force of inspiration as the texts which they interpret, but the inspiration of those texts was of a unique nature for a purpose that has now been fulfilled. Any doctrinal consensus must fall under the authority of revelation, and while the revelation is without error, there is no such guarantee for any body of interpreters across time. Personally, I think in retrospect that I prefer the wrestling over trivialities vs. central truths provoked by this cornucopia of Baptist sects in the Baptist faithful over a compulsory belief in the abstract 'inspiration' of a tradition over time - the exact nature of which I suspect has as many definitions among Roman Catholics and Orthodox as there are Baptist denominations. The trivial distinctions among the faithful will fade over time, and what remains in common among essentials affirming Baptists will be held on a firmer foundation than what caused the divisions at the beginning.

You are excellent !

Great video, as always. Have you done a video explaining the difference between the types of church polity?

I was brought up Baptist in the UK My parents were missionaries and as a child I mixed with Christian’s from all over the world Guitar and band music including hymns and choruses were what we was used to As an adult I became part of an AOG church which followed the same principles

😎 Brother break down without any um or ah!! *Great Job Explaining*

Good video 😊

Great video! Free Will Baptist here

I'm gonna have to watch this in slow motion with no distractions and a pad of paper nearby to take notes!

I’m surprised to hear the Progressive Primitive Baptists mentioned. It would be cool to have a whole episode about them. At the Progressive Primitive Baptist Church I was aware of there were many people of Salzburg descent. The Salzburgers were Lutherans who were expelled by the Catholic archbishop of Salzburg, Austria, some of them settled in Georgia in 1734. You could have a whole episode about the Salzburgers, and I often wondered how much influence they had on the formation of the Progressive Primitive Baptist Church.

@janetprice85

Жыл бұрын

Some of my relatives were Salzburgers from Effingham County. There were also Quakers in Ga. Most of my family today are a real mix of Catholic, Methodist,Baptist,and Jehovah Witnesses. The colonies were a haven for the dissenting churches.

@onliwankannoli

Жыл бұрын

@@janetprice85 Amazing how people were willing to leave their old lives behind in search of religious freedom. Though some of them didn’t exactly have a choice.

@margaretkinnaman8585

Жыл бұрын

​@@onliwankannoli and then once they fled persecution they then persecuted others that didn't believe as they did...

@onliwankannoli

Жыл бұрын

@@margaretkinnaman8585 Sadly, there are instances of that. The Puritans come to mind. But this was not often the case, most groups coming to America for religious freedom were not numerous or influential enough to compel their religion on others.

Great work!!! It would be great to see a video like this one on other Protestant religions

@Lord9Genesis

Жыл бұрын

He literally has dozens, if not hundreds of videos on most denominations

@jonaslukosevicius9233

Жыл бұрын

@@Lord9Genesis yea I know

@jonaslukosevicius9233

Жыл бұрын

I know and I want more lol

@jonaslukosevicius9233

Жыл бұрын

It’s like a drug addiction for his videos

@jonaslukosevicius9233

Жыл бұрын

Lol

Where does the NIFB fall? Do you have a video about or on them?

At 7:30 of course "denominate" simply means "to name" and my definition of a "denomination" is any group of churches with a shared name, thus the name on the outside gives you a good idea of what takes place inside.

Well as a Baptist I must admit I didn't know most of these. The Progressive Primitive Baptists get the prize for most ironic title though. 😂 In Australia we're more homogeneous it would seem, though perhaps I'm just not aware of all groups. Most Baptist Churches in my state are part of a shared Baptist union.

Wow. Raised in a church environment, I had only heard of a very few of these various Baptist varieties. I had no idea there existed so much variance, albeit much of it quite subtle. Thank you for a very interesting video.

@andrearobbins9450

Жыл бұрын

Growing up in the southern United States, you find a lot of "shotgun" churches where congregations split over trivial differences and a new church would be formed nearby. The pattern of church locations would resemble shot gun spatter!

I grew up in and still highly involved in the Baptist Missionary Association and like to see we got recognized. Very often we are over looked as a Baptist association in most things related to the Baptist denomination as a whole. Also I must say (not that I disagree with you) but the landmark principle isn't one that is actively taught in the BMA. Maybe the founders believed that but most people I know don't necessarily subscribe to that. It wasn't until college that I heard someone use "The trial of Blood" book to promote that idea.

I can see how confusing it would be if one person from a particular "Baptist" church moved elsewhere and sought to join a "Baptist" church in their new community...and found it to be a completely different type of faith community!

@aldenpark6224

Жыл бұрын

100% possible. When I'm on vacation, I tend to be more interested in churches with "Bible" on the sign rather than "Baptist," because I feel like there will be fewer surprises.

Thanks buddy.

I loved this overview! Great job. One very interesting point to all of this denomination sub-splitting... If churches would simply stick to their doctrine, we wouldn't see organizational splits every other generation. I'm very concerned that today's churches stopped asking what the truth is and now change church doctrine to increase head count. Worse yet, most of the new franchise Baptist churches no longer put out any doctrinal statements in order to avoid the chance of having to back-track later. It is truly a sad commentary on the modern church.

I was baptized Regular Baptist in a GARBC affiliated church, but moved over to LCMS in college

This guide gets two thumbs up from this Reformed Southern Baptist!

Thanks!

@ReadyToHarvest

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, Cedric!

I’m a longstanding member of a Baptist church (in Australia) My goodness - all these different groups and offshoots are confusing even to me. One can only wonder how overwhelmingly complex they appear to unchurched people. I’d imagine that it would, generally speaking, be a turn-off to them.

@TheLeftRbabieskillers

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You can thank Martin Luther for that.

@TheLeftRbabieskillers

Жыл бұрын

" I pray that they will all be one, just as you and I are one-as you are in me, Father, and I am in you. " John 17:21

@greatexpectations6577

Жыл бұрын

Imagine American denominations as large buffet of all you can eat religions. If you look around, you will find one that you like sooner or later. 😂

@nickcook8523

11 ай бұрын

At least it’s simple in Australia- there’s only Union Baptists and Independent Baptists

I had no idea there were so many Baptist groups! This amplifies how splintered Christianity is if that's a fraction of the groups in one denomination alone! Thanks for mentioning the predominantly Black Baptist groups: my understanding is they broke from the Southern Baptist Convention when it became evident that 11 o'clock on Sunday morning was the most segregated hour of the week. You are a scholar - yet I know your videos go deeper than sharing you research on our divided faith. You make me think about C.S. Lewis and his book, "Mere Christianity." I have recently adopted the term, "Christianism," to distinguish between our malpractice of the faith and actually following, "The Way." I do not absolve myself of guilt in this regard. Oftentimes, we wind up driving people away from Jesus instead of drawing folk to Him by letting our Light shine. Keep up your outstanding independent work and your profitable collaborations. You're doing your job....

Makes my head spin😮

This is as clear as mud, being a fairly new believer.

I found it curious when you described leanings of the BBFI toward the movement of evangelicalism. That sounds like a different BBFI from the one I knew in the past. My personal knowledge of the BBFI began when I was growing up. My father was involved in the BBFI and he described himself as a pastor of a "independent fundamentalist Bible believing Baptist church." Later he retired from teaching in their Bible college. My mother retired from working in BBFI missions office. More than one dinner conversation included discussions how the Baptist church was a continuation of the New Testament church. This would not have been about the Baptists in general but Baptists with specific doctrinal position that was derived directly from the Bible. This means that the Baptists who are closely aligned to the church that was created by the Apostles would be the only Baptists who measured up to what the name means. Whether we could trace Baptist linage from church to church down through history like some denominations do is unlikely. This is all the more unlikely due to the viciousness of the enemies of those who have been called Baptists, ana-baptists, or re-baptizers. I think if we look across the spectrum of Christians Baptists are more likely than anyone else to insist that the Bible is our only source of doctrine and anything outside the Bible is to be rejected. To be consistent this means that Christians do not need any writings, agreements, confessions, or canons by any other Christians to interpret the Bible for themselves. Through Scripture and the presence of the Holy Spirit we ourselves have immediate access to the words of Jesus Christ and the Apostles. As such it is unacceptable to think that God would have ever allowed the New Testament church to have totally disappeared at any time. These are some of the ways that we can discover what a Baptist is. It is absolutely ludicrous that we would have had to wait around until Luther to remind us of the role of faith in our salvation. I have never believed that the Christianity that we have now necessarily threads through the Catholic Church or the Reformation. We may never know how many churches or individual believers remained at any given point in time but no matter what that was God would have always intervened to keep the Gospel message alive. We see this pattern in the Bible described as a remnant or some protected group that often includes those whose righteousness will set them apart to fulfill the will of God. What purpose would be more important to God than Salvation. We have long passed the time when calling oneself a Baptist is specific enough to have a consistent meaning to not only other Baptists but anyone else. 20+ types of Baptists is stunning but given the goals of enemies of the Church of Jesus Christ this plan is perfectly understandable.

Also it depends on the cultural roots. North American Baptist Conference, the church I grew up in, is German. General Baptist Conference is Swedish. Southern Baptists are considered the strictest.

I grew up non-denom but it was a Bob Jones church that was kind of like FBFI Then we went to an KJVOIFB (Separatist) for a few years In college it was Campus Church but they were like KJVOIFB Then got married and went to IFB that had pulled out of SBC so it was IFB that felt southern Then went to another IFB, then led music at an SBC (Evangelical) Then went to a Southern IFB then have been at SBC since. I've been around the block a bit - I've observed that Baptist infighting hurts the cause of Christ. I call myself an evangelical Christian that leads music at a traditional SBC church and I'm not reformed but I like Sovereign Grace music. I have reformed friends, Arminian friends, Mennonite friends, and friends in almost every group.

@user-mt8tr6ht6e

9 ай бұрын

A "Traditional" SBC church - I dont think there is any such thing -!!!

Watching this video gave me an idea for a video to request from you (if you haven't done it already). Could you discuss exactly what is meant by the term "evangelical" and how it differs from non-evangelical or "mainline Protestant" churches? Likewise, how are evangelicals different from fundamentalists? I have my own ideas about the answers to this, but I'd like to hear it explained by someone more knowledgeable about it than me!

@petardraganov3716

Жыл бұрын

Josh did this video, which seems to fit what you are looking for: kzread.info/dash/bejne/nWiGk7ePgcTTo7w.html

How do you keep all of this straight??

Been a member of the Baptist church for over 30 years. It is a real meze of faiths . I was a member of a Southern Bap church and then Free Will Bap. Their is a difference in the way they do things.

Do you know anything about the baptist union in Australia? And how they came about ?

have you done The Local Church (Witness Lee)? BTW, have you considered parsing the varieties of Calvinism/Arminianism or positions on the doctrine of election?

@bigscarysteve

Жыл бұрын

If Joshua does that, I hope he'll throw the Free Grace position into the mix of comparison.

I am baptised in Southern Baptist Convention Churches in The Philippines

@paulandreig.sahagun34

Ай бұрын

Bruh, if you're under the Central Luzon Association of Southern Baptist Churches, welcome brother🫂

Could you make a video on the Baptists originating from Tyrol in Austria expelled during the counter Reformation?

Wow lots of info succinctly put, anybody know about "second" baptists? Matt didn't mention them either unless I missed it.

@ReadyToHarvest

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Many Baptists would name their church "First Baptist Church" if it was the first one in the city. The second church may choose the title "Second Baptist Church."

I grew up in the missionary Baptist Church until I was 29 and then join the independent Baptist Church and I still attend the independent Baptist Church I raised both of my daughters in the missionary Baptist the oldest daughter got baptized in the missionary Baptist and the youngest daughter got baptized in the independent Baptist Church both joined the same independent Baptist Church and they don't have missionaries and no Sunday school for children or youth we have children church and youth and young adult worship service my former missionary Baptist Church belong to the great lakes Baptist association in Michigan

Watch out for the notorius Westboro!

Can you do a video on Sons of God denomination?

Pray that all of you guys find true church which is Orthodox church pray for everyone

5:13 I wonder what they thought about the Great Commission

8:12 - Mark Ward has entered the chat. 😊

I grew up in the BMAA. The Landmarkism is fading away. There are some older people know what it is, and a few that believe it, but that's about it. I had never even heard of it until I went to a BMA college and the president talked about it.

@actionsub

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There are still remnants of that philosophy in sectors of the Southern Baptists in their praxis.

Can anyone tell me which Baptist groups hold to the New Hampshire confession of faith? Besides GARBC if any.Thanks

An ABA ( missionary) baptist church helped me see my need of salvation and I was saved. I later moved to a IFB church( which was basically the same as the ABA church.) In recent years it has become more New Evangelical, according to your description of what that is…

@sarahmacasling123

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im also a member of missionary baptist here in rhe philippines that is affiliated with ABA

@michaelbarnett2527

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@@sarahmacasling123 My church supported a native phillipina pastor for many years until he went to heaven. His name was Mandy Calanesan. Not sure exactly where he was …I think Luzon .

@sarahmacasling123

Жыл бұрын

Really. that was good. though i dont know the filipina pastor but i am aware that there are many ABA churches in Luzon area in the Philippines. as a widow, i too was actively serving in the church until my husband went home with theLord in 1996. but by God's grace at my age of 59 i still actively attend church and living under God's direction. thank you friend

I’m Catholic and I literally got dizzy listening to these denominations. Does anyone find it odd that there is a need for such denominationalism?

@brettk1517

8 ай бұрын

Don’t kid yourself, the Roman Catholic Church isn’t one “unified” church either. Speak to a Dominican and a Jesuit, and you’ll see the difference. In fact, look at your Pope. He says things that would have had him burned at the stake 200 years ago.

@jessa1895

Ай бұрын

@@brettk1517you know murder is a sin right? 😂 straight roasted bro.

I love the Useful Charts channel as well.

I have read that Abraham Lincoln's parents were Hardshell/Primitive Baptists. That must have been interesting.

Do all of these Baptist organizations subscribe to the OSAS doctrine, or do some teach against the OSAS Baptist doctrine?

I'm not kidding; I GO TO THAT CHURCh in the background; it is First Baptist Church of Morris, Illinois.

I'm trademarking ''Bodhisattva Baptists'' (TM) before anyone else takes it ! :-)

@user-tw8ct7cq5k

11 ай бұрын

Pastor-Lama Jim of the First Independent Bodhisattva Baptist Temple of Lamarr County, Georgia?