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@vitesseguy

Жыл бұрын

Thank-you for this fair and thorough explanation. Now please explain the difference between Reformed Baptists and Reformed Presbyterians (or Anglicans, Lutherans, etc). Is it just the time and mode of baptism? Or is there more? Thanks again.

@whtstr2133

Жыл бұрын

So...every Saturday I say happy Sabbath to my family. When we have guests, they are considered a part of that family. I share the truth and some scripture for the day and week and don't do anything for myself. I study nearly all day. I share in family activities and love my neighbors a little extra. I think about scripture and implementing as well. I do these things because I pray that I keep the Sabbath, and the 4th commandment. To honor family and God, and to admire your blessings and give thanks. Also, to acknowledge and praise God for creating our lives and universe, and to acknowledge the greatness of God. I am non-denominational. I don't believe in man's input. God makes the Bible sufficient enough, and simple enough for my autistic daughter. What am I? No one has identified and given a title or definition.

@bradmiller7001

Жыл бұрын

@@vitesseguy As you know the denominations are forbidden in scripture, the root word for divisions is denominations. So you are a follower of Luther, Peter, or the large host of others first and not Jesus and his ways. 1 Corinthians 1:10 10 I appeal to you, brothers, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be united in the same mind and the same judgment. Bible Gateway 26 The enter denominational church system, is built and functions to serve the Goddess Circe. Who the word "Church" comes from. This is the story of Cain and Able. A man made approach to provide the sacrifice we want God to bless vs the sacrifice God whats. It is the story of the word school. A school of dance or a school of fish. The denominational Church system is like a school of of dance. It still works without dancers but a school of fish is 3 or more fish in community, no fish, no Ekklesia. So the denominational church system is the counterfeit of the school of fish. You see that the Reformed Baptists and Reformed Presbyterians (or Anglicans, Lutherans) are man made "Cain based" approaches to worshipping God. Ask God, what he thinks about them?

@oracleoftroy

Жыл бұрын

@@bradmiller7001 _"So you are a follower of Luther, Peter, or the large host of others first and not Jesus and his way"_ Why are you trying to divide Christ? 1 Cor 1:12f What I mean is that each one of you says, “I follow Paul,” or “I follow Apollos,” or “I follow Cephas,” or *“I follow Christ.” Is Christ divided?* Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul? You are engaging in the very behavior Paul forbids in the very chapter you reference. I don't think Paul is forbidding denominations per se in this chapter, but the sort of divisiveness your comment is made of.

@bradmiller7001

Жыл бұрын

@@oracleoftroy kzread.info/dash/bejne/jHuhx6uOe5feoKg.html 16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

I always find it interesting that for the most part, the reformers/Calvinists always want to make sure they are known as one or the other. When other believers ask me where I land, I just tell them I follow Jesus and read His word.

@mr3817

Жыл бұрын

I sat down with one of the Global leaders of the Reofrmed Baptist Movement for a very long time (over 2 days) a few weeks ago. We discussed in depth exactly what you are saying - when people are obsessed with distinctions and not the Gospel, it is evidence they are not saved, and do not have Saving Faith. Why does he leave out Saving Faith - which is THE distinctive Doctrine of the Bible and THE distinctive doctrine of the Reformed Baptist Movement? That's very concerning. Many "Follow" Jesus. Many "Believe the right things" about Jesus. But they are NOT SAVED. Salvation is (1) knowing you are a sinner, who is under the Wrath of God, who NEEDS a Savior... and (2) Believing and Trusting in Jesus Christ and His shed Blood Alone as your only hope ot be saved from the Wrath to Come... one who is truly saved will plead the Blood of Jesus, and the blood of Jesus ALONE. One who is truly saved will preach the Gospel - calling everyone to BE Believing And Trusting in Jesus Christ and His shed Blood alone. The Gospel, is not just for the lost - it is for everyone at all times, to BE Believing /Trusting in Jesus' Blood Alone as our only hope. Instead, you hear "you believe the truth so you're saved" "You believe Jesus is real" so you're saved... This is creating many False Converts, and much of Christianity even Calvinist and Reformed Christianity is FILLED WITH THESE FALSE CONVERTS. This leader emphasized it is irrelevant what particular denomination one is in, even though Saving Faith and being VERY clear about the Gospel and the appeal of the Gospel has been a Hallmark of modern Reformed Baptists... THE ONLY thing that matters is the Gospel and trusting in Jesus' Blood and righteousness alone. May we all cry out: My hope is built on nothing less than Jesus' Blood and Righteousness!

@neverpc4404

Жыл бұрын

Sometimes is is an easy way to explain their doctrinal and theological positions. Even Mormons will say they are a follower of Jesus. Which is actually a false Jesus.

@FireFirePow

Жыл бұрын

I feel this same way. Sometimes in the church world people get caught up under the wing of certain teachers. Like those who were disputing in Paul's day about whose disciples they were. Yet I simply rely on the Holy Spirit to lead me and guide me to the ONE true interpretation of the Word of God and I'm not into listening to teachers or preachers like many are. Some teachings are great, but when it gets to deep theological and doctrinal issues, I always run to God first. Besides, who are people like John Calvin? Who are these men? Not apostles who gave scripture.

@neverpc4404

Жыл бұрын

@Fisher Man Do Armenians ever ask you if you are Calvinist? If so, do you answer the same?

@neverpc4404

Жыл бұрын

@Fisher Man me either, nor have I ever met anyone who called themselves a Calvinist. Not even at MacArthurs Masters College

We evangelicals believe we are saved in by grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone,through the scriptures alone, to God's glory alone.

@youngsterjoey9038

4 ай бұрын

He literally said that

@elaynelight8451

3 ай бұрын

Not all evangelical churches teach that...that they would! It took me yrs to find expository preaching and five Sola theology.

@boooorad

3 ай бұрын

We Christians don’t even know what Calvin meant by the solas. No one understands. Calvin is closer to Catholic view of communion than evangelical. I’m an evangelical.

@youngsterjoey9038

3 ай бұрын

@@boooorad absolutely incorrect

@Bamifun

2 ай бұрын

Some evangelicals are Prima not Sola believers

Why I love McArthurs sermons is he more than any other pastor ive seen cites nunerous verses while preaching, he flips through the entire bible while preaching on a single verse, he uses the word of God sometimes more than his own words which is rare in a preacher.

@lukemadasz1186

5 ай бұрын

Ironically thats why I can't stand him. Most people preach the Bible like a buffet. It's a library of books that were meant to be read, like books! Meaning from front to back. That's how many doctrines of demons get started. Roman's 8 without all the other chapters is out of context.

@JohnSmith-zo6ir

4 ай бұрын

John MacArthur is the world's foremost authority on expositional teacher of the scriptures Zola scriptura. His breadth and depth of knowledge and revelation of the scriptures is incredible.

@Crazy_The_Bus_Driver

3 ай бұрын

I agree with you. Pastor MacArthur is a thorough and care teacher who is careful and takes great care in what he teaches. He is one of my go to teachers, James White, Steven J. Lawson, R.C. Sproul and Matthew Kingsbury are the other teachers I enjoy listening to.

@Crazy_The_Bus_Driver

3 ай бұрын

@lukemadasz1186 when Pastor MacArthur goes through the Scripture on a particular subject it is based upon strengthening the Greek or Hebrew word(s) both grammatically, word use and definition and how it is used contextually. This is an important process to perform both for the one studying and the one listening. Pastor MacArthur isn't just taking passages out of context and teaching haphazardly trying to develop a new or strange doctrine. Rather he is taking what a particular text is conveying and he is expanding upon it with the full counsel of the Scriptures. I really appreciate the time, effort and dedication which is required to teach in this fashion.

@JohnSmith-zo6ir

3 ай бұрын

@@Crazy_The_Bus_Driver Exactly. MacArthur is a great teacher of the Word.

I have never heard Pastor MacArthur emphasize Calvinistic Baptist the way you are with Reformed Baptist. I listen to him a lot and his focus always seems to be the saving grace of Christ. He is also very consistent in his connection of Old Testament to New.

@cosmictreason2242

3 ай бұрын

He's Calvinist and not Reformed because he doesn't hold to the LBC-1689 or things such as family integration and regulative principle. But he's TULIP, 5 solas, etc.

@TheSlaveofJesusChrist

Ай бұрын

​​@@cosmictreason2242that's what he said. He said that he doesn't empathize the idea of being “Calvinistic Baptist,” in the sense that he's not just being like, “oh yeah, we're Calvinists, we gotta show everybody we're calvinists.” While he makes it clear what he believes, he states it as fact and does use some scriptures, but he focuses more on other things.

I love Johnny Mac and Voddie. They have been a wealth of wisdom of Biblical truths and I believe both men are ordained by God to preach the gospel.

@SheepofTheShepherd-nu3lz

Жыл бұрын

what's interesting is the fact that many don't know or understand that even though Reformation is found in Scripture its not referring to the Calvinistic Theology that's floating around out there, in case one doesn't understand However when it comes to the verse speaking of Conformed and Predestination which is Romans 8:29 i haven't really heard them mention this and Calvinism isn't a sure fire way to know God, God does all the work, and sadly even reformed preachers teach that we have some decision to make or choice no one has any choice in the matter of Salvation, God has already done this and still continues to do so and what i'm saying is that even though i'm not a Calvin, i believe in the T.U.L.I.P. part of the theology as many who claim to be a Calvin don't like that or understand

@PapaPoohBear962

Жыл бұрын

@@SheepofTheShepherd-nu3lz God surely does. Amen 🙏👍

@angelaarmstrong6405

Жыл бұрын

Amen. ❤

@TrackTruth

Жыл бұрын

After that response do you receive a free toaster?

@SheepofTheShepherd-nu3lz

Жыл бұрын

@@TrackTruth 🤔You do understand what I was stating, no?

Christ alone The Holy Bible alone Grace alone Thru Faith alone So glad my late husband left the Catholic Church and chose to follow Jesus.

This was so helpful. I listen to all four of you and didn't know these difference, but hear these distinctions often. Thank you so much for taking the time to explain.❤

@RightResponseMinistries

11 ай бұрын

You’re very welcome.

Thanks, Joel, for this video. I would fall more into the MacArthur camp myself, but I watch your videos often and appreciate your teaching. Thank you for being charitable towards other Christians who differ in these secondary issues by acknowledging that both groups have faithful, God-fearing people who just want to serve and obey God. It's really important that Christians understand the difference between groups with harmful and clearly unbiblical beliefs, from which we are called to be separate, and fellow God-fearing Christians who might differ on issues such as eschatology or whether they are covenantal or disspensational in their theology. We don't want to associate with those who teach and promote false doctrine, but at the same time we need to accept those who disagree with us on more minor things, as the brothers in Christ that they are and not become so intolerant that we believe that our group is infallible and that anyone outside of it is a heretic. Keep up the good work brother.

@apilkey

Жыл бұрын

Calvinism and Reformed Theology are the harmful and clearly unbiblical beliefs that we need to separate us from.

@xavierthomas5835

Жыл бұрын

Why have you put difference between you and your brother then? For I have seen Voddi Baucham preach and he has told no lie. It's a fleshly device to put differences between brothers for slight differences in doctrine. If he believes that Jssus Christ is the only reason we shall be saved, he has put no difference in his words or yours. Put away your csmps and let us all draw near to God with a pure heart of faith

@1badjane493

Жыл бұрын

@@xavierthomas5835 .......and HE will gather HIS Sheep from different folds "........no matter your Denomination , as long as you believe and follow HIM , you will see the Kingdom.......✝️ 👈 word

@florinbirsan2223

Жыл бұрын

You don’t want association with false teachers but subscribe to Macarthur teachings? Like the one he says one can take the mark of the beast and still be saved?!

@xavierthomas5835

Жыл бұрын

@@florinbirsan2223 What is the mark of the beast to you?

This is a great video. This is one of the most loving explanations of the differences between these guys.

Thank you for clarifying your statements and being such a good teacher.

Im not a Baptist and an avowed Postmill in Puritan tradition, but I have deep love and respect for all the Macarthurs and Bauchams with whom God has blessed us. Great video. Thanks.

@random-J

Жыл бұрын

You know macarthur said the blood of Jesus is not necessary (important)for salvation?

@oracleoftroy

9 ай бұрын

​@@random-JYou should look at his full answer. Whether intentionally or no, you are lying about his position. MacArthur focuses on the importance of the death and resurrection of christ and was denying any magical property in the blood alone as if Jesus could have accomplished his purpose on earth by going to Red Cross and donating blood without actually dying. The symbolism of the blood is meaningless if it is not shed as a sacrifice for sin and paid with death for the death we owe to God for our hatred and rebellion against Him.

@random-J

9 ай бұрын

@@oracleoftroy your clearly a fan boy who can't take what he says for what it is. He never mentioned magical properties in the blood of christ he just said it wasn't necessary for salvation i can pull up scripture proving him wrong do want me to?.

@oracleoftroy

9 ай бұрын

@@random-J I'd be more interested in you pulling up a source for MacArthur's claim so people can hear it for themselves. And one doesn't need to be a fanboy to not like lies, one just needs to be a Christian one who loves Jesus enough to obey his commandments, like the commandment to bring forward several witnesses when making an accusation. I've heard your claim before and was concerned, but when I looked into it, I saw that it was completely overblown and being pushed by some very cult like NIFB types who hate Calvin more than they love Jesus and so aren't beneath lying about anyone who even smells vague Calvinistic.

@random-J

9 ай бұрын

@@oracleoftroy kzread.info/dash/bejne/pHlqrLKyZ5ionag.html here's the clip , if the link doesn't work just look up john macarthur on the blood of christ. Furthermore you can be a calvinist if you want just as long as you don't believe in the heresy of predestination, or works salvation, I know not every calvinist believe the same thing.

Short but great explanation. Thank you and God Bless.

Very interesting, and beautifully explained. I learned quite a lot from this!

First time here. Stumbled across this video as I’m tying to learn more about these particular nuances of the Baptist faith. You did a wonderful job presenting the information and respecting/loving others in the process. With your voice and look, as well as delivery style, you sort of resemble a member from the Daily Wire. Thanks again!

@cish6047

Жыл бұрын

Ryan, I too saw a resemblance to Matt Walsh (I believe that's who you may be referring to).

@karigross4596

10 ай бұрын

But remember, most Baptists are neither Reformed nor Calvinistic.

One of the best treatments in content and attitude of presenting our relationship to Catholics! Also, so clear on your explanation of the difference between Calvinistic Baptists and a Reformed Baptist. I went to John Mac Arthurs' church for about six years (still listen to his Sermons, going through Romans currently) and I went to a Reformed Baptist Church for twenty years. Now I go to a small, startup Fundamentalist Baptist Church. At least in name. They just preach Christ, his Love for Us and what should be our Love for Him, aka Love for the Lost and being serious about Holiness!

@michaelfleming213

Жыл бұрын

Amen John! I've often felt safer going to smaller Baptist churches, myself! But I also enjoy listening to John and Voddie B. They are well rooted in the Word! ♥️

@marlam8625

Жыл бұрын

So, enemy of my enemy is my friend….so to speak of course

@hyeminkwun9523

Жыл бұрын

St. John said, "Whoever sins belongs to the Devil. No one, who is begotten by God, commits sin (1 John 3:8-9)." Dear brothers and sisters in Christ, please examine yourselves sincerely and determine which group you belong to. Many of you believe some verses in the Bible, think they know and follow Christ, and are saved; and find themselves to be in the first group. Why? Because they do not truly know Christ, nor the True Faith, and are separated from the Source of Grace like branches separated from the Vine (John 15:6). In order for a soul to truly hear the Voice of Our Lord, know and follow Him, and be saved, one MUST be among the sheep in His Only Fold (John 10:14-16), which is His Church founded on the 12 Apostles (Rev 21:14) with St. Peter as His Vicar (namely, Pope) on earth, vesting him with His Authority by giving him the keys to the Kingdom of Heaven (Matt 16:18-19), and sent to all nations to teach ALL He Commanded and baptize for redemption of souls down to the end of ages (John 10:21, Matt 28:20, Mark 16:16). If one believes a part of the Truth which he likes, but ignores other parts which he dislikes, he is deluding himself. One MUST believe the Whole Truth revealed by Our Lord and taught by His Church, be baptized by receiving the Sacrament of Baptism, and live accordingly to be saved. Our Lord said, "Whoever does not believe will be condemned (Mark 16:16)." Protestant churches reject the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church and, thus, Our Lord Himself, who is the Head of His Church, His Body and Bride (Eph 5:23). They say, "Lord, Lord" and teach partial truth, to allure and deceive unsuspecting souls, mixed with heresies and lies, and lead souls away from the Whole Truth and Life to eternal perdition. They are the ones, who will hear Our Lord say, "I never knew you. Depart from Me, you evil doers (Matt 7:23)," unless repent and convert before death. "Whoever is not with Me is against Me, and whoever does not gather with Me scatters (Matt 12:30)." So, the protestants are against Christ Our Lord and are scattered in numerous denominations. Open your eyes and come to the Light which is set up on the mountain top for all to see (Matt 5:14) before it is too late, because the public appearance of the Antichrist and his deception are very imminent. Why follow false shepherds and risk your eternal salvation? May God have mercy on your soul and grant you understanding. Amen!

@cynthiahunter2570

Жыл бұрын

@@hyeminkwun9523 How is a man justified before God?

@samuelswanepoel7926

Жыл бұрын

​@Hyemin Kwun Roman Catholics rejects the teaching of Jesus Christ. To say you must work through the 'pope' is utter nonsense. Only through Jesus can you be saved. Jesus is the temple, and the Holy Spirit is the Helper who when we repent of our sins and then be baptized with water in the water. You personally must repent, die to self. And then be baptized in water for the remittance of sins. That is the first death. I indeed baptized you with water, but He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit.” Mark 1:8 NKJV Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. John 3:5 NKJV Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. Acts 2:38 NKJV A baby cannot repent. Neither can anyone exept Jesus save you. And that is NOT through WORKS. True repentance is compared to a marriage with Jesus Christ. Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord, and that He may send Jesus Christ, who was preached to you before, whom heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since the world began. Acts 3:19‭-‬21 NKJV bible.com/bible/114/act.3.19-21.NKJV

Wow. What a fine display of a grasp of the subject matter and a clear articulation in a comparative analysis.

Even though this is almost one year old, it is so helpful and clear in its simplicity of presentation. Thanks Joel for clearing up so many questions.

@happyforever1528

2 ай бұрын

Sorry! . but he lost me less then halfway through !.

Brother, you did a great job of explaining this question, graciously and thoughtfully.

@RightResponseMinistries

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Really appreciate your encouragement.

I've come to the conclusion that all of us will be surprised when we die and are in heaven. Then we will have full knowledge and will be truly worshipping at the feet of Christ. In the meantime I'll just keep reading and studying the Bible, attending church and fellowship with believers, and tell people i follow Jesus.

This was very helpful for me. I had a lot of questions concerning these subjects & you answered them all. I appreciate the explanations.

wow, I'm saving this to listen to it a few times! ❤️

imagine how much better the world would be if everyone handled disagreements like this

I’m Evangelical. Southern Baptist. I’ve been Baptist since small child. Baptized at 11 or 12 But saved in 1968 and really baptized I thank God that I was taught from early in life about God and took Jesus as my Saviour.

Found this video randomly. Very-well done. Subbed. Definitely want to see more content like this.

Thanks that was crystal clear and respectful

This is a very fair and balanced analysis of the distinctions - especially on the distinction between dispensationalist and covenant theology. Maybe one of the best I've heard from covenant theologians. Nice job.

@jopicker6534

Жыл бұрын

High Micah. Appreciate your comment. Steve in Whitehall

Wow - you've really propelled my amateur theological quite significantly. I'm looking forward to studying more the 1689 Confession of faith, and now that I have more context as to what dispensationalism is opposite of, how that works versus "covenant" theology. Thanks so much for your enlightening efforts to educate the seeking Christian.

This video was EXTREMELY helpful for me. Thank you!

Thank you Joel for these explanations. I am in the Macarthur camp on all this stuff for sure...but I admire all of the other names mentioned too. I mostly listen to Macarthur on a regular basis...but also listen to the others mentioned sometimes as well. God bless all these faithful brothers in Christ.

@speedoggy

Жыл бұрын

If Christianity is the true faith why didn't the Most High mention them from the beginning? He is coming for His 👰 bride and that is ISRAEL not what ever man made has come up with. I believe what is written. From the words origin that's why I study from strong's to ancient hebrew dictionaries. In the Millennial Reign He will teach us again from the Torah.(Micah 4:2 )And many nations shall come and say, “Come, and let us go up to the mountain of יהוה, to the House of the Elohim of Ya‛aqoḇ, and let Him teach us His ways, and let us walk in His paths. For out of Tsiyon comes forth the Torah, and the word of יהוה from Yerushalayim. He is the same Yesterday, Today, & Forever. You can't just believe half of half is not true period it is written. If you love me obey my commands. He will love the one that love Him back by obedience. Works without faith and vice versa is dead dead dead. Walking in the spirit is? (Romans 7:14,7:22)For we know that the Torah is Spiritual, but I am fleshly, sold under sin. For I delight in the Torah of Elohim according to the inward man. Acts 28:23-24 KJV And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into his lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God/Elohim, persuading them concerning Jesus/Yahshua, both out of the Law/Torah of Moses, and out of the prophets, from morning till evening. And some believed the things which were spoken, and some believed not. Just like today some believed not. Just faith alone is dead it's about Both Ministries. Revelation 14:12) Matthew 7:21-23 ts2009 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Master, Master,’ shall enter into the reign of the heavens, but he who is doing the desire of My Father in the heavens. “Many shall say to Me in that day, ‘Master, Master, have we not prophesied in Your Name, and cast out demons in Your Name, and done many mighty works in Your Name?’ “And then I shall declare to them, ‘I never knew you, depart from Me, you who work lawlessness!’ Let's look @ what does LAWLESSNESS mean? Greek#458 anomia Usage: lawlessness, iniquity, disobedience, sin. HELPS Word-studies 458 anomía (from 1 /A "not" and 3551 /nómos, "law") - properly, without law; lawlessness; the utter disregard for God's law (His written and living Word).

@TheLionofJudah3183

Жыл бұрын

The difference is one is no different than the Pharisees which is Calvinist’s and the other back loads works as just more hidden but both are false gospels and require repenting of sins or holiness or discipleship or lordship salvation if it requires YOU to save yourself then you are calling God’s word a lie. For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16 it can’t be repent of sins or perseverance because then it wouldn’t be saved by the FREE gift by grace through FAITH. Solo fede, faith plus nothing equals salvation. If you trust even 0.01% in your own behavior you haven’t trusted Jesus on the cross and you rob Him of the Glory which you didn’t do. Repent of false gospels repent (metanioa) meta =change noia= mind. Change your mind Jesus said repent to the Jews drop your religious acts that can’t save and also change your mind about me and believe. God bless

@jplifesong

Жыл бұрын

@@TheLionofJudah3183 I actually agree with everything you said ..other than the calvinists being Pharisees part. I see Catholics as the perfect analogy for that. But yes I’m in total agreement with everything else. I believe that the moment someone takes ANY credit for salvation based on any supposed act or work on his own...that is a false gospel. Man can do nothing without God first giving us our faith...the ability TO believe. We do not somehow conjure it up on our own. We are dead...spiritually dead. Blind and unable to understand or discern anything from the Word of God. Only when God gives us the faith to believe and be saved ...do we believe and have saving faith. Many people get that completely backwards ...and it’s pretty much a pride thing. Man wants some of the glory that belongs 100% to God.

@DoBetterWorld

Жыл бұрын

I was trying to explain MacArthur to someone and I said there are no gray areas, sin is sin. No compromises to fit what is accepted by society. I listen to him everyday.

@TheLionofJudah3183

Жыл бұрын

@@speedoggy This is cool man, good studies! But head over to a Voice in the desert KZread channel to become a true disciple watch the truth about Christianity is the best video that teaches the gospel that I have seen and watched 100’s it goes with what you said about what Bible says versus man God bless brother

This was so helpful! Thank you!

Great video thanks for laying that out so specifically. As someone who grew up Southern Baptist and has since move away into a more Calvinistic / Reformed baptism hearing the main differences between them helps greatly for my future studies.

Thank you so much for this very insightful response. I learned a ton and explains much about church polity and how it works out.

Greetings from India, Dear brother I praise the Lord for what He is doing thru your live, blessed to hear your teaching with a humble, respectful and loving attitude but the same time holding on to your convictions. Something most of us have to learn. For the first time, understood the difference between reformed baptism position vs. calvanistic position. I love Pastor John and his faithfulness in standing for the truth, these are secondary topics over foundational one, where we are call'd to be a witness of the pure gospel of Christ. Love you brother and God bless you.

@anthonyzestley3980

Жыл бұрын

Jai Hind bhai 🙏 🇺🇸 ❤️ 🇮🇳

@TheLionofJudah3183

Жыл бұрын

The difference is one is no different than the Pharisees which is Calvinist’s and the other back loads works as just more hidden but both are false gospels and require repenting of sins or holiness or discipleship or lordship salvation if it requires YOU to save yourself then you are calling God’s word a lie. For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16 it can’t be repent of sins or perseverance because then it wouldn’t be saved by the FREE gift by grace through FAITH. Solo fede, faith plus nothing equals salvation. If you trust even 0.01% in your own behavior you haven’t trusted Jesus on the cross and you rob Him of the Glory which you didn’t do. Repent of false gospels repent (metanioa) meta =change noia= mind. Change your mind Jesus said repent to the Jews drop your religious acts that can’t save and also change your mind about me and believe. God bless

This was really helpful!

Thanks so much for this teaching and clarity. I listen to all three you mentioned, John MacArthur, Voddie, Baucham & James White and all three have enriched my walk with the Jesus and indirectly mentored me in my reformed journey away from Pentecostalism. Many thanks!

@AL-sk3oi

7 ай бұрын

Please read the Bible too while you listen to preacher with wisdom. You'll get wisdom from the Bible 😊

I appreciate the way you presented different perspectives with respect. This approach is rare on the internet even among Christians with different viewpoints. It was refreshing and informative. Thanks!

@johnniessen7036

16 күн бұрын

Agree. As he said he was 'iron-manning' John MacArthur not straw-manning MacArthur.

Wow, I have to thank God I came across this. Never heard explained better. The attacks against MacArthur are vicious. And his teachings rescued me out of alit of bad theology ( WOF, NAR) God bless you and with all sincerity thank you for doing this video ❤️

@dman7668

Жыл бұрын

MacArthur is not a victim of vicious attacks. He attacks Catholicism all the time. He is hardly a victim.

@TheRueann4

Жыл бұрын

I am so very grateful for Dr. John McArthur & the ways God is using his ministry for God’s Glory in today’s world!

@tracy8508

Жыл бұрын

He’s a blasphemer.

@littlemary2840

Жыл бұрын

@@tracy8508 who?

@tracy8508

Жыл бұрын

@@littlemary2840 John MacArthur (she mentioned him in her comment) as well as all his little cronies. They literally speak against the workings of the Holy Spirit.

Most articulate explanation on dispy/covenant theology. Thank you!

Super well-presented and helpful 😊

Wow! A postmillennial conference! That sounds exciting! The only conference in town with nothing to look forward to!😮

@lindasaffles4189

Жыл бұрын

I love your comment. I'm premillennial and was raised by a minister dad who believed and taught that doctrine when lots of ministers didn't understand it.

@joelseling186

Ай бұрын

Good one! 😁

@juliemichener9423

10 күн бұрын

We absolutely have everything to look forward to! Christ will return and reign in His kingdom! Praise God!

Thanks Pastor Joel, really clear and helpful explanation of the distinctions. Good intro for further exploration for me!

Clear and respectful explanation. Thank you. ❤🙏🇿🇦

Excellent explanation. I appreciate the video. This answered many of the questions I’ve had recently about the differences between the two positions. Just as impressive, you did it in 17 minutes!

@RightResponseMinistries

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!

Excellent summation! I particularly appreciated your distinction regarding the two gospels: Roman Catholicism and Baptist/Reformed Baptist. You articulated your position well. Your explanation of the differences between Reformed Baptist and Calvinistic Baptist was equally appreciated especially drawing the distinctions of two prominent preachers. I understand better! I would have liked to have seen it 4 years ago as I was seeking the historic and orthodox church. Anyone seeking the Orthodox teachings of the Apostles can now easily understand where the lines are drawn between Calvinist and non-Calvinist gospels. Your gospel is the Five Solas. Rome's gospel (Eastern Orthodox as well) rejects outright two of the Five Solas; specifically Faith ALONE & Scripture ALONE. Thank you!

@speedoggy

Жыл бұрын

If Christianity is the true faith why didn't the Most High mention them from the beginning? He is coming for His 👰 bride and that is ISRAEL not what ever man made has come up with. I believe what is written. From the words origin that's why I study from strong's to ancient hebrew dictionaries. In the Millennial Reign He will teach us again from the Torah.(Micah 4:2 )And many nations shall come and say, “Come, and let us go up to the mountain of יהוה, to the House of the Elohim of Ya‛aqoḇ, and let Him teach us His ways, and let us walk in His paths. For out of Tsiyon comes forth the Torah, and the word of יהוה from Yerushalayim. He is the same Yesterday, Today, & Forever. You can't just believe half of half is not true period it is written. If you love me obey my commands. He will love the one that love Him back by obedience. Works without faith and vice versa is dead dead dead. Walking in the spirit is? (Romans 7:14,7:22)For we know that the Torah is Spiritual, but I am fleshly, sold under sin. For I delight in the Torah of Elohim according to the inward man. Acts 28:23-24 KJV And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into his lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God/Elohim, persuading them concerning Jesus/Yahshua, both out of the Law/Torah of Moses, and out of the prophets, from morning till evening. And some believed the things which were spoken, and some believed not. Just like today some believed not. Just faith alone is dead it's about Both Ministries. Revelation 14:12) Matthew 7:21-23 ts2009 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Master, Master,’ shall enter into the reign of the heavens, but he who is doing the desire of My Father in the heavens. “Many shall say to Me in that day, ‘Master, Master, have we not prophesied in Your Name, and cast out demons in Your Name, and done many mighty works in Your Name?’ “And then I shall declare to them, ‘I never knew you, depart from Me, you who work lawlessness!’ Let's look @ what does LAWLESSNESS mean? Greek#458 anomia Usage: lawlessness, iniquity, disobedience, sin. HELPS Word-studies 458 anomía (from 1 /A "not" and 3551 /nómos, "law") - properly, without law; lawlessness; the utter disregard for God's law (His written and living Word).

Sir, you handled that very well with much grace. Thank you.

Thank you, this was very helpful to me.

Good job on this one. Very clear and caring towards MacArthur, yet truly pointing out the deferences in his theology. Thank you!

Thank you for the breakdown of differences. I always wondered what the differences were.

Thank so much for this very articulate explanation. It definitely clarified a lot of questions for me.

Quite good descriptions, I appreciate this.

I was Baptized Apostolic. I love John MacArthur's sermons. I love that he explains what the word of God is saying as he reads. I love when conviction comes to my heart! We always know when we have said, thought, done, something and just brush it under the rug, but praise be to God for conviction. Don't we want to serve him with a pure heart in any moment? The Lord God has talked to me so many times through John MacArthur sermons. The word of God corrects leads us on the road of righteousness, do we want to be like sheep led astray? John MacArthur is precise in his teaching the word of God, he never yells or talks fast or is loud.

@dannymccarty344

Жыл бұрын

Me too! (:

@SmellofFemale

Жыл бұрын

But we are like sheep lead astray! Do you remember when you became a Christian? Do you remember what you did the day you said I'm saved? Or heard the pastor say, "Welcome to the family of God?" No answer? Why not? You boast but aren't ready to give an answer for the reason why & how & what you did too become a "Christian"? Why, when asked, none of you answer? I see you were baptized. That's 1 good & eight thing done, correct? What else did you do before or on the day you chose Gzus?

@MrConsto

Жыл бұрын

I enjoy some of MacArthur’s preaching but when it comes to soteriology/Calvinism and to cessationism he is heretically wrong. Yes he uses Scripture verses but he is not Scriptural!

@SmellofFemale

Жыл бұрын

@Mr Constantin RC Sproul said many times that if there was ever anyone he'd want in his foxhole to defend the inerrancy of the word, it'd be Johnny Mac. Having known John since 95, he's solid on many core tenets. Imo, I think RC was while heartedly in support of John it was his way of bringing John into the reformation theology as RC. I may be indifferent about it, but that's what I think. John is imo double minded when it comes to Dispensationalism and Futurism theology. And Calvinism vs. Arminianism is by a kind of default. Many people don't know Calvin did not write the doctrine of election nor predestination. Paul did. The anti Calvinism is bcuz humankind will not accept God's sovereignty to choose some and not others for mercy, justification, and / or salvation. Ever see Rooster Cogburn? Pelagius says man not totally depraved (dead) but barely alive, and all after Adam are really sick and without assisting God by accepting the medicine of the Gospel, you will be damned. Paul says: 12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: dead passed to all men. Pelagiusan controversy says no. And the lie today says you're not dead but sick and able. But Jesus said John 6, 44. No man can unless God drags him by supernaturally making that which was unwilling, willing John Calvin said. Millions of faux professing stillborns boasting your robe of piety Hosea prophesied what I call the illegal transfer bcuz Hosea said, the people ARROGATIO faith unto themselves. Hosea 4, 1. Arrogatio : to claim or seize without justification. : to make undue claims to having: assume. : to claim on behalf of another: ascribe. arrogation. er-ǝ-'gā-shǝn. Apr 4, 2023

@rayhchc6451

10 ай бұрын

⚠️ Sara ⚠️ That is because McArthur knows how to soothe an itchy ear. As an SDA I find him as boring as any other Pagan Sunday preacher. Can hardly tell the difference. 😇😇😇

Am I the only one who doesn't give a hill of beans about who agreed to what conference? I judge a man on the doctrine that proceeds forth from his mouth and I scrutinize it with scripture via the Holy Spirit. I've listened to John MacArthur for 20+ years, even before I was saved. I have listened to Voddie Baucham for the last few years since he's became big on KZread. Both are an absolute blessing to the soul. Honestly I listen to MacArthurs Grace to You app almost daily. Not because I have some attachment to him, but because the words that proceed forth from his mouth are biblical focused and are only concerned with teaching and giving God the glory- and I desire to know nothing among any of them other than Christ Jesus and him crucified. Both have spoken biblical truths. Both are men who are clearly Holy Spirit led. I don't agree with them on all things but both men are defenders of the scriptures and contend for the faith. My eyes are on God, not councils and I'll be honest- I'm not a play church kind of guy and I understand at the head of most religious councils you find absolute corruption because of money, so I don't understand why anyone gives any attention to that other than historical reference. Thank you for the break down.

Excellent explanation. Thank you.

Appreciate your humble spirit in explaining some of the doctrinal preferences held in this corner of the much larger evangelical denominational landscape.

Thank you. Member of a reformed church and didn't know the difference between calvinistic and reformed. I appreciate it.

@TheLionofJudah3183

Жыл бұрын

The difference is one is no different than the Pharisees which is Calvinist’s and the other back loads works as just more hidden but both are false gospels and require repenting of sins or holiness or discipleship or lordship salvation sabbath keeping eating a box of Cheerios if it requires YOU to save yourself by keeping laws or anything for that matter then you are calling God’s word a lie. For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16 also see John 5:24 and John 6:40. It can’t be repent of sins or perseverance because then it wouldn’t be saved by the FREE gift by grace through FAITH. Solo fede, faith plus nothing equals salvation. If you trust even 0.01% in your own behavior you have put your trust in you and not Jesus on the cross and you rob Him of the Glory which you didn’t do. Repent of false gospels. Repent (metanioa) meta =change noia= mind. Change your mind Jesus said repent to the Jews drop your religious acts that can’t save and also change your mind about me and believe. God bless

This is such a great video! I get confused between denominational differences. Would you ever make more videos on comparing denominations? Like Baptists and Congregationalists is one that I am always interested in

@jannepetersen4660

Жыл бұрын

I used to listen to John Mac,Arthur sometimes, but at one sermon a young girl stood up and asked John about animals in Heaven, he said no there are no animals in Heaven, that did it for me, I left the teaching, and never went back, because that is a falsh preaching.....

@kait2625

Ай бұрын

@@jannepetersen4660I could understand leaving if he’d said something significantly contrary to Scripture (i.e. something foundational, like how salvation works), but you left because he said one minor, insignificant thing you disagreed with? Whether or not there will be animals in heaven is an opinion that will hardly impact the message of the Gospel, which is the most important thing to get right, but you seemed to find the details of an animal’s afterlife more important.

@jannepetersen4660

Ай бұрын

@@kait2625 God gave the animals a soul, and when Esajah escaped from King Ahab and Queen Jezebel. He told the ravens to bring him food and water, the donkey talked to Bileam, because he treated it badly, there are horses in Heaven, and God demand that we treat them decently. God tell us to learn from the ants, and the lion of Juda is Jesus, painted out as a lion. We can't live without the animals, but they can live without us. God whisles after the flies, and most animals knows about death, can you tell me why God should make such efford to let the animals be so important, simply to ignore them in death???????????? John.M.Arthur is calvinist they se things a little different then many preachers.....

@kait2625

Ай бұрын

@@jannepetersen4660 okay…..none of the things you just said are correlated. God can use animals…it doesn’t mean they have a soul. He could speak through a piece of furniture if he chose, but those don’t have souls. You really think Balaam’s donkey was just a talking donkey? The passage literally says the Lord opened the animal’s mouth…that had nothing to do with the animal being intelligent or having a soul. And how does Jesus being depicted as a lion indicate animals have a soul?? Anyway, most of the examples you cited are God using His creation as examples to teach us, because all of creation is at His disposal to do so. None of these examples support your claim…you’re just fitting them into your argument like misshapen puzzle pieces. Whether or not animals do have a soul is something none of us can definitively say because the Bible does NOT indicate it, but that’s not what I’m here to argue. My issue is this…for you to claim that you 100% know animals have a soul/go to heaven and use bad examples that don’t actually support your argument. To make a solid claim that the Bible doesn’t back up…that’s false teaching too, don’t you think? And as a footnote…being a Calvinist has zero to do with this 🤣 I know plenty of non-Calvinists who don’t believe animals go to heaven.

That was extremely helpful to me❤

Wow!! After listening to this my head is spinning, why do I feel that we are complicating our Christian faith which in my opinion confuses people &makes you feel like you truly don’t understand what it is to be truly saved, All I know is that I love Jesus with all my heart & soul &I just want to be obedient to him & live my life according to his will, I just hope I don’t have to try to explain all these differences in these complicated theologies & doctrines. Can we please just keep it simple & explain this to people in basic terms that can be understood & remembered? All these big words are so confusing 🙏🏽❤️💪🏽✝️🙌🏽🤦🏽‍♀️

@graceweber2822

Жыл бұрын

Agree. Seems petty cat fighting in my opinion. As long as a church is preaching salvation only through faith in Christ's death on the cross then that's good enough for me.

@HolinessHeals

Жыл бұрын

Some people are fed and prefer to keep things simple. Other people are fed by digging deep and being scholarly. Neither is wrong as long as you are Born again and are growing in the faith. No need to be critical of others who are not like you or critical of yourself because you are not like them. The Lord made us all different.

@Chris-xx8jr

Жыл бұрын

Amen

@hyeminkwun9523

Жыл бұрын

St. John said, "Whoever sins belongs to the Devil. No one, who is begotten by God, commits sin (1 John 3:8-9)." Dear brothers and sisters in Christ, please examine yourselves sincerely and determine which group you belong to. Many of you believe some verses in the Bible, think they know and follow Christ, and are saved; and find themselves to be in the first group. Why? Because they do not truly know Christ, nor the True Faith, and are separated from the Source of Grace like branches separated from the Vine (John 15:6). In order for a soul to truly hear the Voice of Our Lord, know and follow Him, and be saved, one MUST be among the sheep in His Only Fold (John 10:14-16), which is His Church founded on the 12 Apostles (Rev 21:14) with St. Peter as His Vicar (namely, Pope) on earth, vesting him with His Authority by giving him the keys to the Kingdom of Heaven (Matt 16:18-19), and sent to all nations to teach ALL He Commanded and baptize for redemption of souls down to the end of ages (John 10:21, Matt 28:20, Mark 16:16). If one believes a part of the Truth which he likes, but ignores other parts which he dislikes, he is deluding himself. One MUST believe the Whole Truth revealed by Our Lord and taught by His Church, be baptized by receiving the Sacrament of Baptism, and live accordingly to be saved. Our Lord said, "Whoever does not believe will be condemned (Mark 16:16)." Protestant churches reject the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church and, thus, Our Lord Himself, who is the Head of His Church, His Body and Bride (Eph 5:23). They say, "Lord, Lord" and teach partial truth, to allure and deceive unsuspecting souls, mixed with heresies and lies, and lead souls away from the Whole Truth and Life to eternal perdition. They are the ones, who will hear Our Lord say, "I never knew you. Depart from Me, you evil doers (Matt 7:23)," unless repent and convert before death. "Whoever is not with Me is against Me, and whoever does not gather with Me scatters (Matt 12:30)." So, the protestants are against Christ Our Lord and are scattered in numerous denominations. Open your eyes and come to the Light which is set up on the mountain top for all to see (Matt 5:14) before it is too late, because the public appearance of the Antichrist and his deception are very imminent. Why follow false shepherds and risk your eternal salvation? May God have mercy on your soul and grant you understanding. Amen!

@vigilantezack

Жыл бұрын

​@Hyemin Kwun and this Catholic nonsense is why we must study theology, so we don't fall for bad ideas like pretending your church organization is the and thing as Jesus, and your false god the "vicor of Christ" pope is set up as a replacement Jesus (an anti-christ). Peter is not "the pope". There is so much bad theology in Catholicism and it takes study of scripture to see it. But catholics don't give scripture authority, they give themselves authority over scripture.

Thanks for the clarity. I now know that I’m strongly a Calvinistic Baptist.

This was very helpful! Now I know I’m at least Calvinistic. I just need to read the 1669 Baptist Confession of Faith to see what that’s all about. I agree with you on the two specific points you brought up-the sabbath and covenant theology. I look forward to reading it!

@silversurfer2703

Жыл бұрын

I think that was 1689 Baptist Confession not 1669.

@xavierthomas5835

Жыл бұрын

I honestly would tell you it is not worth it. Here is my question to you: do you want to know what Jesus said, or do you want to know what people have said Jesus said? I believe ghe love of Christ constrains us to hear what he would have to say about his word directly rather than indirectly. The whole point of the Spirit indwelling us is to show us the things of God directly as indirectness was how God dealt with unbelieving Israel. What, then, profits us in reading Confessions of Faith, and Chirch Covenants and Doctrines by the dozens to understand what heading we come under? We are all the children of God and that without difference and without contention. For there is no difference.

@KristiLinauer

Жыл бұрын

@@xavierthomas5835 Am I to believe that you only ever read the Bible, and never read anything about the Bible, Jesus, doctrine, or theology written by other Christians? No books? No commentaries? No videos? No podcasts? That seems doubtful since you're here commenting on a Right Response Ministries video.

@xavierthomas5835

Жыл бұрын

@@KristiLinauer We are not to put our trust in any brother or pastor or wise man, but in God alone. It is fine to listen to them for understanding,but it is unnecessary to look to them for understanding in righteousness and reproof of instruction when we have the Bible for this very same purpose. If you want to know something or understand it, go the rather to scripture and listen to God. Refuse to know anything, but what God will tell you, not what others have heard from God. Step out on a ledge called faith that allows God to do a new thing through you, not what he has done through others. This is our calling in Christ and our convocation in him as his priests.

@Harpharpmanman48

Жыл бұрын

No where in the Bible does Jesus change the Sabbath from the seventh day to the first day of the week!

Very clear, concise, thorough and helpful information. Alot to ruminate over. Thank you!😊

Thank you for the explanation that makes it really easy to take

I appreciated this video. Helps make things clear as a Seventh day Sabbath keeper.

@TheLionofJudah3183

Жыл бұрын

The difference is one is no different than the Pharisees which is Calvinist’s and the other back loads works as just more hidden but both are false gospels and require repenting of sins or holiness or discipleship or lordship salvation sabbath keeping eating a box of Cheerios if it requires YOU to save yourself by keeping laws or anything for that matter then you are calling God’s word a lie. For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16 also see John 5:24 and John 6:40. It can’t be repent of sins or perseverance because then it wouldn’t be saved by the FREE gift by grace through FAITH. Solo fede, faith plus nothing equals salvation. If you trust even 0.01% in your own behavior you have put your trust in you and not Jesus on the cross and you rob Him of the Glory which you didn’t do. Repent of false gospels. Repent (metanioa) meta =change noia= mind. Change your mind Jesus said repent to the Jews drop your religious acts that can’t save and also change your mind about me and believe. God bless

@morrishamby

7 ай бұрын

Reformed Baptists: “Catholics are preaching another gospel”. Catholics: “Then why are you saying sunday is the Sabbath? You know we are the ones who made that change, right ?”

Years ago, I was introduced to Christ by a very wise pastor. He was 3 yrs away from retiring, he was up there, and, well definitely up there.. He was a very smart learned man. He had bibles in his office in every language and at least a dozen bibles 1500 down to 900. He even had a copy of a gospel and a half of Aramaic. And of course, Greek and Hebrew and other languages of newer bible's. What he explained about this, would take too long for a comment section. But basically, they're both true. The Word of God clearly says we were predestined, chosen in many places and many words that meant the same. Then of course he clearly showed me were it say this day we chose, and of course many other places that clearly show that human beings have to be reached so they can turn to Christ. Why else were the apostles spreading the Gospel? Why are we told to tell others about Jesus and so one. It was just to illustrate how they were both clearly a fact in the bible. And to us, he said, it's a contradiction, but it's really not. If not a contradiction, than how do you explain this I asked They're both in there, so you can't pick and choose. God wouldn't have said it if it weren't true. So that then, they're both 100% true at the same time. Then showed my many scriptures similar to where it says our mind is not like God's mind. In a way, it's simple. We live our lives sharing the good news to everyone and pray they choose Christ and become saved. When we think of chosen, that should give us more joy and confidence in who we are. Not create a belief around it. If the most important job of a Christian is to witness to others, than we must assume it's necessary. This is one of those things the human mind can't makes sense out of. Like how is there only one God but threre are three separate entities who are God. Or like, God always was and there's never a before God. An existing with no time boggles the mind It's brain overload when you even try and make sense out of these type of things. That's where faith comes in. I don't get it Lord, but I trust it is all in your perfect hands. We all know that God already knows everything that's going to happen. Is he a fortune teller? That would be ridiculous to say. If he is the only thing there is, than he he ad to have a hand in its outcome. But not quite in human terms. If it were human terms, then he's playing a game. But I don't see how the Son of God is sent here in human form (another one of those only Gods mind understands) and from then he was still 100% God, but also 100% man. And I don't see the Father sending the Son and for the Son subjecting himself to all sorts of torture, humiliation and death if this where a game. I believe he must be serious and we must understand that over everything else. But he's in control of everything. Nothing happens without him, cause without him, there's nothing. Just stop for a moment and really examine the idea of omnipresence. Bring as many to Christ as you can. But also, don't worry, he has the perfect plan. Take comfort that you understand that he drew you to him. Again it's faith. No sides to pick here. And don't worry, Jesus already won.

@TheWriterWalker

8 ай бұрын

Wow! What a comment! Thank you for sharing this much of your wise old teacher's knowledge.

@Red766t

4 ай бұрын

Amen

@user-vl3jl8mx6b

4 ай бұрын

After listening to Joel through his presentation my mind was still in a fog, but am grateful I read your response. Thank you for sharing.

@loganross1861

5 күн бұрын

Thanks God had been leading me to this same conclusion. That I don’t even have the capacity to lay boundaries and systematize something that began from eternity in the mind and heart of God.

Very helpful, many thanks. May God bless you. I listen to all the men you mentioned.

Thank you for that very clear explanation

I didn't know there was a difference between being Reformed and Calvinist until today. I'm thankful to have come across your video - very clear explanation. God bless you!

@danoctavian8184

Жыл бұрын

well, covenant theology is a must in order to be “reformed”, but i wouldn’t say christian sabbatarianism is something particular for reformed folks. No continental reformed church holds to it, Calvin himself and Bullinger didn’t. It’s something particular to reformed people from england, non-english reformed confessions speek of the sabbath as being abrogated. The Westminster standards are first to speak of the sabbath as moving to sunday and then the congregationalists and baptists took it when they copy pasted the Westminster confession.

@TheLionofJudah3183

Жыл бұрын

The difference is one is no different than the Pharisees which is Calvinist’s and the other back loads works as just more hidden but both are false gospels and require repenting of sins or holiness or discipleship or lordship salvation if it requires YOU to save yourself then you are calling God’s word a lie. For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16 it can’t be repent of sins or perseverance because then it wouldn’t be saved by the FREE gift by grace through FAITH. Solo fede, faith plus nothing equals salvation. If you trust even 0.01% in your own behavior you haven’t trusted Jesus on the cross and you rob Him of the Glory which you didn’t do. Repent of false gospels repent (metanioa) meta =change noia= mind. Change your mind Jesus said repent to the Jews drop your religious acts that can’t save and also change your mind about me and believe. God bless

@danoctavian8184

Жыл бұрын

@@TheLionofJudah3183 “if you trust 0,01% in your behaviour you haven’t trusted in Jesus” what about faith? do you trust in your faith? do you trust that because you believed you are saved? isn’t that a behaviour? It buggles me how people can acuse calvinists, of all the others, of preacheng works salvation. Is like they closed their ears to everithing those people say. If there is ant system that is more christocentric is calvinism. In reformed theology Christ earned for you even your conversion so even your faith is a gift and so are good works and so if you don’t have those gifts then it is a sign that you are not born again. But your salvation has been determined from the foundation of the world and faith is the way it is applicated to someone and good works are the fruit of the salvation. None of those things are actually the basis for salvation. No calvinist believes good works are necessary for salvation, but they are inevitable to come after salvation.

@TheLionofJudah3183

Жыл бұрын

@@danoctavian8184 I have no idea what your talking about but anybody who needs to constantly try to be saved (Calvanist reformed Baptist or any ism)isn’t saved for the mere fact that they are not trusting Gods Word by faith for what it says look up John 6:47. Once you believe you already have it everlasting life anyone can come to it unlike what Calvs teach that not anyone can be saved but only the pre destined non free will people which we know is false cuz all people have free will we are not robots God does not make us choose Him just look at the Jews but if you want it explained better just watch any Jacksmack77 video to hear the truth. Anything else and your just like the Pharisees trusting in your goodness(self righteousness) which isn’t a requirement to be saved but rather trusting by faith in why Christ did

@watcherwlc53

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I thought Reformed WAS Calvinist teachings.

Thank you for this! I would consider myself more Calvinistic Baptist but I fall 100% in your all’s camp about the Sabbath.

@TheChristianImperialist

Жыл бұрын

Without Creeds and Confessions, "calvanistic baptists" have no means to keep orthodoxy in their churches 2-3 generations down the road. They will scatter like chaff over time. You need to think "how will my church look in 2200"...if it requires an unbroken chain of lucky hires of biblically orthodox pastors, then you recognize your church has very shaky longevity.

Very helpful information. Thank you

Very, very interesting. Thanks for the excellent explanation.

As a saved Christian 5 years ago, it's time for me to once and for all get my hands on some index cards and memorize basic theological vocab like dispensational, hermeneutics, so that i can begin to understand what does typological, analogical hermeneutic means so that I can fully understand videos like these.

@m.r.6222

4 ай бұрын

Don't bother, read the Bible and stay close to Jesus.

@MrsQ22

4 ай бұрын

Hahah, that’s a good idea. Thanks! .. this video went over my head. But I know Jesus is the ultimate way truth and life 🙂

@fbcfnh

3 ай бұрын

@@MrsQ22 They use terms like this to avoid God's truth, IMO

@nanja01

3 ай бұрын

Man makes everything way more complicated than God does. Here's a scripture that may help, John 14:26. Of course there are many, but when i read this, it changed my perspective. Pray, read/study scripture, and find a church that preaches the whole scriptures. It's like learning to walk, you stumble at first, but one day you take off running...🕯

@jankragt7789

3 ай бұрын

These differences are fairly logical. As Biblical scholars/preachers, you either have to create 1. clearer/sharper DISPENSATIONS, ages of say the Old Testament, before Christ, and New T., after Christ, as well as in regard to Revelations: into the new age, and Christ's return. OR you will need to read the Old T. through the lens of the New, after Christ and see/hear God speaking in a more spiritual or 2. ANALOGICAL way with different persons representing as TYPES either Christ or our life as Christians: Abraham, David etc. something the New T does do itself also (see Hebrews...)

I fall into the MacArthur Camp. Thanks for sharing.

Helpful, thank you.

Thank you for such a clear explanation.

Hey Josel, thank you so much. I have always wondered why as a Calvinistic (not sure why baptist is added) evangelical, dispensationalism, I found so many like-minded brothers who were not dispensationalism. I'm coming late to the MacArthur party (we brought in a Masters Seminary Pastor), but aligned pretty much after I learned and affirmed the SOLA & TULIP doctrines. Which is why my youtube also started to fill up with you, White, and Durbin. Our church has had Voddie speak live, so being aware of the differences we certainly unite on so many issues. I totally needed to understand those divisions and indeed was the right question and glad you focused on it. Sorry, I already signed up for Shepherds in the spring but always looking for the rapture before 🙂

@JohnGodwin777

Жыл бұрын

Baptist is added because Reformed/Calvinistic Presbyterians believe in infant baptism and Baptists do not. I’m sure there are other, mostly minor, distinctions as well.

@speedoggy

Жыл бұрын

If Christianity is the true faith why didn't the Most High mention them from the beginning? He is coming for His 👰 bride and that is ISRAEL not what ever man made has come up with. I believe what is written. From the words origin that's why I study from strong's to ancient hebrew dictionaries. In the Millennial Reign He will teach us again from the Torah.(Micah 4:2 )And many nations shall come and say, “Come, and let us go up to the mountain of יהוה, to the House of the Elohim of Ya‛aqoḇ, and let Him teach us His ways, and let us walk in His paths. For out of Tsiyon comes forth the Torah, and the word of יהוה from Yerushalayim. He is the same Yesterday, Today, & Forever. You can't just believe half of half is not true period it is written. If you love me obey my commands. He will love the one that love Him back by obedience. Works without faith and vice versa is dead dead dead. Walking in the spirit is? (Romans 7:14,7:22)For we know that the Torah is Spiritual, but I am fleshly, sold under sin. For I delight in the Torah of Elohim according to the inward man. Acts 28:23-24 KJV And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into his lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God/Elohim, persuading them concerning Jesus/Yahshua, both out of the Law/Torah of Moses, and out of the prophets, from morning till evening. And some believed the things which were spoken, and some believed not. Just like today some believed not. Just faith alone is dead it's about Both Ministries. Revelation 14:12) Matthew 7:21-23 ts2009 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Master, Master,’ shall enter into the reign of the heavens, but he who is doing the desire of My Father in the heavens. “Many shall say to Me in that day, ‘Master, Master, have we not prophesied in Your Name, and cast out demons in Your Name, and done many mighty works in Your Name?’ “And then I shall declare to them, ‘I never knew you, depart from Me, you who work lawlessness!’ Let's look @ what does LAWLESSNESS mean? Greek#458 anomia Usage: lawlessness, iniquity, disobedience, sin. HELPS Word-studies 458 anomía (from 1 /A "not" and 3551 /nómos, "law") - properly, without law; lawlessness; the utter disregard for God's law (His written and living Word).

@TheDrjohn2

Жыл бұрын

@@speedoggy Hmmm. Matt and Luke cite Jesus saying " Heaven and earth shall pass away, but My Words shall not pass away." I'm pretty sure that the NT will be taught as well.

@speedoggy

Жыл бұрын

@@TheDrjohn2 of course Torah means Teachings The Whole bible is Teachings. HalleluYAH OT is 78% 22isNT now NT quotes like 10%of OT So actually 10% is NT only.

@TheDrjohn2

Жыл бұрын

@@speedoggy Thank you for your gentle reply. I learned something new.

Very good teaching video for those of us who are neither Reformed nor Calvinistic. I refer to myself as a Reformed (in more ways than one) Pentecostal and I enjoy listening to both John MacArthur and Voddie Baucham, but I am a staunch Pre-Tribulation dispensationalist! I do hold strongly to the Sola points, so I guess I am a spiritual mongrel of sorts, but I have no problems with either group or their beliefs, though I may not believe in whole all of the theological viewpoints of either group. I just appreciate the firm teaching of the Gospel from either man!

@dianeschultzviseth9794

Жыл бұрын

I'm with you. A staunch pretrib reform Christian. The thing I don't understand is when I hear reform believers say God broke his contract with Israel because they broke it first. And they don't think God has any future plans for Israel, which I entirely disagree with. The stance on Israel seems to be the big difference between Reform Baptists and Calvinist Baptists

@Crowbrother7

Жыл бұрын

@@dianeschultzviseth9794 I don’t agree with that either. Christians did not replace Israel. Two distinct groups! Israel is still God’s chosen people and we are grafted in and the book of Revelation is not allegorical! It’s future prophecy of we are experiencing the birth pangs of things which will come to pass!

@victorialw1

Жыл бұрын

@@Crowbrother7 I see it the same way. I view it in light of Ezekiel 37:16-23. How God joined the 2 sticks.

@Crowbrother7

Жыл бұрын

@@sangwadiana3356 I stick to theGospel and the scriptures and how it is taught. Plus i have a strong spirit of discernment coupled with research. This all keeps me in line. Much prayer, my friend, too.

@slamdancer777

Жыл бұрын

@@dianeschultzviseth9794 I have never heard Reformed make that claim.

Happy to help you make this your most watched video 😅

Found this video to be very enlightening. As a former Catholic it caught my attention right away. Thank you very much

Love MacArthur’s series, “Why Every Calvinist Should Be a Premillennialist,” Parts 1-6. We should be respectful in our investigations so as not to misrepresent those who “appear” to be in another particular theological camp. We’re responsible, as individual Believers, to check out and test whatever we’re being taught as truth. Please do so with this video, as well.

@NanaKwekuNyarko

Жыл бұрын

“Rapture” theory is not biblical and leaky

@toolegittoquit_001

Жыл бұрын

I love John Macarthur but his 'Loser Eschatology' is quite off-putting

@willpower6720

7 ай бұрын

@@toolegittoquit_001 What is that?

@davidofarrell4363

6 ай бұрын

Dr MacArthurs eschatology is spot on. So many problems with the postmil position that it’s astounding that anyone would fall for it. The idea that the world is getting better and better or will before Jesus comes is preposterous.

@eve3363

6 ай бұрын

Jesus is not coming back in the flesh. You need to read you Bible, have Bible studies, pray, and fast. How can Jesus come back in the flesh when he already died and is in Heaven right now? Jesus already did his fleshly assignment. Jesus will return in the spirit. But go ahead and think Jesus will return in the flesh. You will be worshipping the antichrist. I'm telling you right now.

Think about Jesus' teaching within the Gospels and ask yourself how He would feel about this entire discussion? I would say it is akin to the questions He received regarding the Apostles picking grain to eat on the Sabbath. It's tradition, it muddies the meaning and gist of the gospel message. Jesus is Love and He calls us through His Holy Spirit to choose Him and accept the price that He paid for all people for our sin. When we choose to accept His payment and call Him Lord, we are saved. If we have no right or ability to choose or deny the Payment He has paid (grace), then there is no unforgivable sin (denying of the Holy Spirit). The fact that we are able to choose to accept Him doesn't cause pride for us, because it is by His Grace alone that we are able to obtain our Salvation. All that being said, these ultimately are rib breakers and not back breakers. Anyone who does this is indeed saved, whether or not they feel they had a choice to do so. Labels and Religion "tags" are a tool for Satan to divide. Truth is truth. God bless all of you.

Appreciate your concise explanation of reformed Baptist and Calvinistic Baptist. Pretty sure I am more in the Calvinist camp based on your description, but I am interested in learning about reformed confessional Baptist. Don’t think I can except post millennial or amillennial eschatology. I am premillennial post trib.

Very helpful, thank you!

This was fantastic! Watched it at 2x speed and still understood it. It was extremely clear, and well put together. Thank you for this video.

@ktrepairs

Жыл бұрын

How do you speed this up?

@vivianbaptistchurch

Жыл бұрын

@@ktrepairs Click "Settings" (Looks like a gear). Click "Playback Speed", change from normal to whatever speed you like.

@Dan-ch8kv

3 ай бұрын

1.5x is my go to.

Good job Joel. I’m Calvinistic baptist and thought you were very fair and accurate

@TheLionofJudah3183

Жыл бұрын

The difference is one is no different than the Pharisees which is Calvinist’s and the other back loads works as just more hidden but both are false gospels and require repenting of sins or holiness or discipleship or lordship salvation if it requires YOU to save yourself then you are calling God’s word a lie. For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16 it can’t be repent of sins or perseverance because then it wouldn’t be saved by the FREE gift by grace through FAITH. Solo fede, faith plus nothing equals salvation. If you trust even 0.01% in your own behavior you haven’t trusted Jesus on the cross and you rob Him of the Glory which you didn’t do. Repent of false gospels repent (metanioa) meta =change noia= mind. Change your mind Jesus said repent to the Jews drop your religious acts that can’t save and also change your mind about me and believe. God bless

Thank you so much for sharing

THANK YOU!

Thank you for that well thought out and articulated response to that question. Admittedly I have not researched it in detail, but I have always been curious about what a Reformed Baptist is. This has been a valuble insight. I will have to look up the Baptist Confession of Faith you mentioned. God bless.

Your description of the differences between the Reformed and Calvinistic views reveals a Pastor’s heart. May God raise up more men like you.

@RightResponseMinistries

Жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@xavierthomas5835

Жыл бұрын

@@RightResponseMinistries if I may be so blunt, there is no real difference between Calvinistic and Reformed Baptist is there? So why are they called by two different names? It just complicates a rather simple decision of whether or not you like to keep the sabbath or not and whether you like to read the Bible this way or that. It simply does not require a different sub category of Christianity. We all believe the same truth, yet we put difference between brothers as Paul and Peter, as though they were anything. We are Christ, the very body of him, and have need to be consolidated beyond these simple distinctions in doctrine. Else, how could Paul have spoken of observing the day or not observing the day before the Lord. How then can it be a different Christianity if they have not spoken a different gospel?

@RightResponseMinistries

Жыл бұрын

@@xavierthomas5835 there were no doctrinal differences between Paul and Peter.

@xavierthomas5835

Жыл бұрын

@@RightResponseMinistries The point was that i was referring to Galatians, where, for whatever reason, they were putting differences and factions in the church by using the Apostles' names to specify what they adhered to and what they believed. Also, I wouldn't actually know that. How is it that the Apostle Peter can say that there are things he doesn't understand of Paul, if they had no doctrinal differences? It would have to be that there were some if he didn't understand everything he was saying, even if inevitably came to agree. He wasn't a man given to listening to anything people said, even if they were brethren.

@dianetigert1310

Жыл бұрын

the only difference is ppl have found a new way to persecute the sinner, God loves me the sinner not you you need to stop being a sinner and be a better person.

Clear and concise. Thank you.

Thank you Pastor Joel. You are a great teacher. I still don't have it clearly but find it meaningful and helpful.

Brilliant analysis. Thank you.

Thank you, for the explanation in the two different theologies presented. One simple question. Does the difference between these two beliefs result in one not receiving eternal salvation?

Two wonderful men of GOD who bless me everyday with their preaching. No problem with any small difference in interpretations they may have. ❤🙏🇿🇦

@SweetPeteUnleashed

Жыл бұрын

Is that a South African flag I spy? I'm South African too ☺️

@waynegrobler7432

Жыл бұрын

@@SweetPeteUnleashed yip. It sure is. Hi there.👍👍

Thank you for clarifying and doing so in a respectful manner as I respect all the men you mentioned in the video.

Thanks for this! *saved

I think this video was helpful. I’ve been wrestling with this but didn’t know it was THIS! I am a reformed Baptist. And I go to a Calvinistic Baptist church! Amazing!

@paulofell9939

Жыл бұрын

Calvanism is not worshiping the same God. To teach someone they were created for hell, have no choice but hell, just got God's joy. Is not the God of the Bible. There is no difference between, calvanism, Muslim, catholic, Hindu. Calvanist chose to walk away from the Word of God to follow a man. A man no less who was a Catholic priest and just claimed salvation. The God speaks directly against this.

@blake7179

Жыл бұрын

@@paulofell9939 Hey Paul. I don’t think you understand what Presbyterian’s believe if you think they teach that humans don’t have a choice. Presbyterians do believe people have a choice, but humans don’t naturally seek God. Paul talks about this in Romans 3:10-11. The fault is still on humans because we have been given consciouses that tell us there is a God. Instead of asking for God’s help to remove impure desires, humans brush their wickedness under the rug and create lies to try and justify themselves. I was guilty of this myself before coming to faith. John 1:12-13 explains that the will of man is naturally in opposition to acknowledging God. There are many more verses and passages that I could also share as well, but these are just a few. Hope this helps.

@paulofell9939

Жыл бұрын

@@blake7179 stop trying to cover your false religion by calling it other names. Presbyterian is not the same as calvanism. Calvanism is a false doctrine. You don't understand what you believe. Go ahead look into research it. That is 100% calvanism. Either God predestined you to behave a certain way and is responsible for it or man has free will and is responsible

@Lee-xn8by

Жыл бұрын

@@blake7179 I don't think you understand Calvinism if you think humans have any choice in anything they do, as every act of every man is ordered by God. Murder, rape, child molestation, homosexuality, beastiality, adultery, railings, coveting and so on are all commanded by God in Calvinism.

@ktrepairs

Жыл бұрын

@@TheLionofJudah3183 who then can be saved?

Thank you for this so much! I was Catholic for 36 years. Never heard the gospel. Met Jesus, became born again by the Holy Spirit and began reading the Bible. Saw so many things we, as Catholic were saying and doing, and eyes were made wide open to see how many things we as Catholic were wrong. But I do hear Christians in my church not knowing the true Catholic doctrine thinking Catholics are saved. They believe that because Catholics believe in Jesus they are saved.

@l.p.amador2261

7 ай бұрын

Sadly, Roman Catholics believe in a different Jesus, from a different spirit [see 2 Corinthians 11:3-4]. The Jesus of the Catholic church needs to be sacrificed again and again through the mass [compare w/Hebrews 10:10]; has Mary as co-mediatrix [compare w/1 Timothy 2:5] and co-redeemer [compare w/Galatians 3:13; 1 Peter 1:18-19]; is not able to save from the fires of purgatory [compare w/Hebrews 7:25]; requires a person to earn salvation through their own works rather than trusting in the work which He did once and for all [compare w/John 6:28-29; Ephesians 2:8-9; Hebrews 10:14]; is not able to assure someone who believes in him that he will have eternal life [compare w/1 John 5:13]; and the list goes on and on. In actuality, Roman Catholicism trusts in everything and everyone else except Jesus Christ the Son of God of Scripture, and in so doing, ensures the masses will be thrown into the lake of fire, all the while promising access to God and heaven through trusting in the Roman Catholic church [compare w/John 14:6]. However, God has already foretold the destruction of the church of Rome [compare w/Revelation 17:1-18:24; 1 Peter 2:1-3; Matthew 7:13-14]. May we believe in the Jesus Christ the Son of God of Scripture and study and know the Scripture so that we will know the real Jesus Christ and not the false christ's of so many made up religions [compare w/Matthew 24:23-26; Acts 17:11; 2 Timothy 2:15]. May God help us....

@hamidrabiipour9707

7 ай бұрын

@@l.p.amador2261apparently you & Roy lack accurate information and knowledge about the Catholic faith since most of your writings are pure nonsense. Countless Protestant teachers & preachers have left their churches and became Catholic & given their testimonies on “Journey Home” program that you can watch. Do it for your own spiritual development.

Nailed it!

Very helpful bro. Thank you