Im suffering from a painful neurological condition and questioning my faith. Please pray for me and I will keep praying to God.

@natashamiller4860

27 күн бұрын

Absolutely! I will definitely be praying! May I ask what neurological condition you’re dealing with (feel free to not answer if you don’t want to)? I ask because I deal with a couple neurological issues myself. I have Chiari Malformation, Idiopathic Intracranial Hypertension (also called pseudo-tumor cerebri)). And, I deal with neuropathy, spine issues, severe complex headaches, and a couple other minor issues, as well.

Jeff Durbin, James White, Voddie, Sproul and Doug Wilson have been very helpful in me waking up from the Jehovahs Witnesses.

@joshualeibrant3443

Жыл бұрын

Doesn't mean they are pastors,

@ricksanborn6667

Жыл бұрын

Whether they are pastors, they are faithful Evangelists.

@FormerFetus1995

Жыл бұрын

@@joshualeibrant3443 I know they weren’t on the list, but Jeff Durbin and James White are pastors. I just listed teachers that have been helpful to me.

@joshualeibrant3443

Жыл бұрын

@@FormerFetus1995 by no means are these false gospel preachers who worship the murderer of Adam and Christ (John 8 44) pastors

@joshualeibrant3443

Жыл бұрын

@@ricksanborn6667 negatory ghost rider

Macarthur was the one who woke me from my lukewarm Christianity, thank you Jesus for his ministry. I do not consider myself a card-carrying Calvinist, but I would still be living in darkness without JMac. Just stumbled onto your channel and love your messages. I hope God grows your flock, but not too quickly so you stop studying like Matt Chandler 😏

@TheJCFan

6 ай бұрын

MacArthur has made false prophecies. What does that make him?

@rickjohnson6818

5 ай бұрын

​@@TheJCFan Wow, I never knew John MacArthur claimed to be a Prophet. I always thought him to be a cessationalist. Please point to these prophesies.

@truthsayer6414

3 ай бұрын

So do you consider yourself " saved" and can never be unsaved, no matter what happens in decades to come ? So what does it actually mean for someone to claim " I am now saved?" How then does that claim take into account verses that warn we must all stand before Jesus and his angels and be judged for their WORKS? Should we ignore verses like Matt 16 27, Rev 22 12 and Rom 2 6 because we hold some kind of get out of jail free card, won in some kind of random Predestination lottery invented by John Calvin. Is this the same God of John 3 16 Who wants all to believe in him and be saved!

@JMercCCITLD

3 ай бұрын

@@TheJCFanI too would like to know about these false prophecies you speak of…genuinely. Your statement is the first I have heard of him making a prophecy that did not come to pass or making a “prophecy” at all for that matter. As someone who listens to quite a lot of John MacArthur it’s interesting that I haven’t come across anything like that. Could you please point to examples of what you are talking about?

@beasthunt

Ай бұрын

@@TheJCFan That makes you a liar. MacArthur has never done such things and has spoken against people doing such nonsense.....lol.

I came to saving faith later in life (35 yo), I’m 62 now…in 1999 I read Sproul’s “Chosen by God” and my life was put on a whole new trajectory! Since then I’ve listened to hrs and hrs of RC’s sermons, read his books, etc…his winsome demeanor, his wit, his devotion to Holy Scripture…these traits are why I esteem him above most…but right below him (and it’s purely subjective, merely because I found RC first) are Wilson, Webbon, Robles, Durbin as far as contemporary guys go…but give me Spurgeon or Lloyd-Jones any day! And I would be completely remiss if I left Lewis out! I read “Mere Christianity” before I was converted and before I was halfway through it, I KNEW it was all true…and that I was hell bound! It was another 7 years before I fell to my knees and cried out “God I can’t live like this anymore! In Jesus name, HELP ME!!” I heard (inside my head? Outside my head? Just ‘sensed’ the words in my heart?) “All is well”…and with those three simple words, I was delivered from a 14 year heroin addiction…haven’t touched drugs or alcohol since that moment…I miss RC…I’ve met Doug Wilson a couple of times…Thanks Joel, for this episode…btw, I got ‘em all ‘right’ before you two discussed ‘em! Lol

@chuckw8391

11 ай бұрын

Praise God, Bless you❤️🙏🏼

@janethanson1793

9 ай бұрын

Fantastic!

@andrewbrowne5557

7 ай бұрын

@@Philip__325 it’s ‘to’, not ‘too’…learn to spell, your snarky comments will be more effective that way.

@danielfield3580

5 ай бұрын

I love Voddie Bachmann, he stands tall on the Word, even though he is Southern Baptist. I've had to move away from our prominent Southern Baptist Church to a non-denominational church who leans hard toward Calvin's interpretation.

@natashamiller4860

27 күн бұрын

Amen! RC Sproul was such an amazing man and pastor. He, also, was an amazing example of what it means to “rightly handle the Word of Truth” as 2 Timothy 2:15 admonishes of us!

Better to Trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man...Psalm118:8

@RightResponseMinistries

Жыл бұрын

Amen.

@Beni-pj7dx

Жыл бұрын

And Amen

@huerosantos7563

3 ай бұрын

Amen

@melaniemunien6789

3 ай бұрын

Hallelujah AMEN AND AMEN

@thelastoferrathen613

2 ай бұрын

Both now and forever Amen

I met RC when I was 18. I knew he was different from the depths of my soul, and I loved him. I raised three young men. The voice that they heard in our household, besides their mother and myself, was RC. "Renewing Your Mind," "The Tapes of the Month," and even sermons at Perimeter Church, ( thank you, Randy ) piped truth into our home and our lives. All this to say, of all the wonderful things that God, Himself, wrought in that man, courage was the highest attribute of my beloved RC.

@mrlxii62

Жыл бұрын

RC, good man of good will. Vey bad theology. Ubi est Petrus, ibi ecclesia. Ubi Ecclesia, ibi Iesus Christus!

@susanroffman1612

Жыл бұрын

Went to RC’ church for many years. He and his elders are AGAINST EVANGELISM. Radically.

@daviddeppisch4948

10 ай бұрын

@@mrlxii62 Bad theology? Reformation truth.

Re: John Piper: Not sure how much value there is in a reporter's assessment of any theologian/pastor's trust factor, but the exchange at 24:30 gives some insight. Guest: "When the CRT stuff first started happening... I probably used some of that terminology without knowing what I was doing." Host: "Mm... Yeah, me too." Guest: "Yeah! Because I really didn't know." Now, in hindsight, both host and guest seem quite forgiving of their own error. Yet, their confession comes right after calling John Piper "naive", "ignorant" and even "cowardly" for not discerning things perfectly in real time. Seems a little harsh to me, and certainly hypocritical.

Another name should be added but who is no longer alive is Dr James Vernon McGee. His teachings are still on some radio stations and his gives examples of his fight against liberal teaching going back from the 1920s, 30s and into the 70s. He was fighting this battle long before most of us were born.

@diefenbakersown

Жыл бұрын

I was saved by God through this dear man's ministry. You're quite right that his teaching on Thru the Bible would really help the church see that these heresies today are nothing new under the sun.

@paulanelson1629

Жыл бұрын

I grew up listening to J Vernon Magee on the radio.

@lauramckinney9896

Жыл бұрын

Didn't he deny Lordship salvation? I think he called it a heresy.

@jburghau

Жыл бұрын

@@lauramckinney9896 I have read that he did hold to Free Grace Theology. This would support your comment. Best book on this is Christ The Lord by Michael Horton. May God bless you.

@johnnywise2498

Жыл бұрын

Dr Magee explained very clearly ,in terms that anyone could understand truth from God's Word,his " Through The Bible " series of books are the best lve ever read

I miss R.C. Sproul very much 😢

@mkshffr4936

Жыл бұрын

Ditto.

@solochristo65

Жыл бұрын

Yes!!! He is my Favorite Biblical Teacher by far........Of course merely human wise.

@stephenpappanastos7885

3 ай бұрын

I’m not a solid, 5-pointer Calvinist but I LOVED him as well.

Brother Joel, be careful to take the place of “I get to discern and declare who is solid and who is not.” Pride goeth before the fall, and a haughty spirit before destruction. Please practice humility in how you make yourself the decider on these things.

John McArthur 👍👍

It was thanks to Doug Wilson we found the Reformed faith and left the charismatic mega church!

what an honest, lucid and accurate dialogue; doug wilson's critique of Tim keller and how he has his thumb on the scales is well worth the read!

@USMC-cv5sd

7 ай бұрын

I find that it's people who were on the side of the white nationalists and pro confederate like MacArthur was vs people who are against racism like Michael Horton , Tim Keller, John Piper, and Russell Moore. You don't even know what "woke" is.....that's something that was used in the black community in the 60's.....anyone who isn't pro confederate and anti black is "woke" now. It's also those racist Christians who support Trump like Robert Jeffries and those who call him out on his lack of character and his bigotry. Kenneth Talbot and Douglas Wilson are extremely pro American slavery and pro confederate, and they signed that anti social justice statement......so their idea of justice and a perfect society is one where black people are dehumanized. George Washington ordered vaccines for the troops. Conservatism isn't intrinsically holy, that is idolatry......Conservatism has ALWAYS been against minority human rights. You guys are not prolife. A million people died from covid-19 and you bastarfs dont care. You just use abortion to justify your hatred and bigotry.

People need Pastors,but the sad fact is most people are not familiar with the Scriptures enough to know bad doctrine when they hear it preached,God has given us a way to determine truth from lies,His Word

@euphrates74

Жыл бұрын

(Right on)...and His Holy Spirit. Some "Christians" have veils over their eyes.

@logicaldude3611

3 ай бұрын

Become a pastor then. Problem solved.

@johnnywise2498

3 ай бұрын

@logicaldude3611 l think that would be a calling from God, choosing a profession apart from God s calling is part of the problem

@judyswiderski2682

3 ай бұрын

In fact, most bible versions are cursed of God. Revelation 22:18-19. Seek the truth! Modern bible versions lie, change who God is, and continually challenge God and His word! by asking, Did God say? Come on, really? God said He preserved His word. Psalm 12:6-7. Most modern bibles do not. In other words they are not admitting that God has a standard, His inspired word. His word is quick (alive) and quickens (gives life). His word is eternal. In fact, they deny that God preserved His word! Most of the modern bibles have at least one out and out lie. NKJB lies in Exodus 6:3. They began to call on the name of the Lord in Genesis 4:26. Others quote Jesus telling his brothers, i am not going to the feast. John 7:8. (Is he saying he is going to break the law of Moses?) He waits and then goes. Liar! BLASPHEMY . Jesus simply said, not going now, not yet. He waits and then goes. No problem, no lie. And blatantly they mock Jesus and unashamedly, constantly, with each change ask, Did God say? "All things were made by Him and without Him was not anything made that was made. " John 1:3. Clearly He is the Creator. Their Jesus was but a vessel. "Made through him." Did God say Mark 11:26? Absolutely. It is an essential part of our walk with God. A verse that makes us tremble was added????? Did God say? Acts 15:34? It shows God's divine providence. Silas was there when Paul needed him for a journey. Obviously Silas remained there. BRAZENLY, they change or remove a word that gives the believers true power! Matthew 12:31 and Mark 9:29! Some spiritual warfare needs prayer and fasting! Did God say eleven (11) times in the New Testament the word damnation, eternal burning? Yes. But not in theirs! Did God say? Did God give three witnesses to that truth? Mark 9:44, 46, 48. They however only have v48. The other two they ask, Did God say? This is important because we need to know the truth and those who preach Annialism, we cease to exist, are easily proven wrong with these verses. Jesus is God. Yet Jesus is man. Hebrews supports this with four verses, 3:3, 7:24, 8:3 and 10:12: "But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sin for ever, sat down at rhe right hand of God; Hebrews 10:12. They do not use the clarifying words 'this man' at all. Again, Did God say? Every change they make is an insult to God and His word. God said He would curse those who add to or take from His word. Revelation 22:18-19. In the Old Testament those who honored a false prophet received the reward of that prophet. So the Alexandrian translators, the bible societies the publishers, the promoters, sellers and those who teach from them (showing those ear tickling bibles as God's word) or honor them will be held responsible. If done ignorantly, repent. God will not be mocked. This happened when the inspired Antioch manuscripts called the Textus Receptus were replaced by the Alexandrian manuscripts called the Codex B or the Vaticanus from the Vatican basement, and the Sianiticus from a monestary. They do not agree with each other and the latter has about 30 changes per page. Obviously inspired by their spiritual father who brings conflict, frustration, despair and DOUBT. King James Bible online Helpful tool: Webster 1828 aka Noah Webster 1828 Dictionary online: This dictionary has civil and spiritual definitions. Look up: Repent, Regeneration, Believe, Conversation, Suppliers: Churchkjb.com Localchurchbiblepublishers.com Sources: Adullum Films -Tares Among the Wheat Sequel video. Books: The Revision Revised and The Last Twelve Verses of Mark, both by William Burgon. Dean Burgon lived during the time of Wescott and Hort. Book: Look What's Missing by David Daniels Chick.com. Mythical Septuagint by Peter Ruckman. Did Jesus Use the Septuagint? by David Daniels

Well done, much needed. Keep it going. We the people, need to keep educated on our spiritual leaders. We do it for our politicians, so let's keep it up on the spiritual battlefield.

Thank you. That was informative and encouraging.

David Jeremiah is a pastor with a servant’s heart. Good pastor. While he past away Adrian Rogers was an excellent pastor who spoke God’s truth. Alistair Begg is one of my favorite pastors as well.

@TheJpep2424

Жыл бұрын

David Jeremiah endorses and raises money for TBN and word of faith heretics like Benny Hinn. He has poor discernment.

@ChristyeLynn

7 ай бұрын

Passed

@USMC-cv5sd

7 ай бұрын

David Jeremiah has become tremendously political and is now calling everyone a communist.

@geod3589

7 ай бұрын

@@USMC-cv5sd Perhaps he sells more books doing that than rehashing his end times theories.

@USMC-cv5sd

7 ай бұрын

@geod3589 So funny, I was thinking the same thing. When he did a radio series on the end times in the 90s, it wasn't extreme, but I was a dispensationalist then.....so of course I agreed with it. He seems to be the only pastor on Trump's pastoral team who didn't put out a statement on the white nationalist Charlottesville rally....... Yet, he has an angry anti left opinion about everything else......He sounds like a bitter old bigot.....I'm over 60 myself in the same county as he is.... I also voted for the republican guy for governor, but there's definitely a white Christian nationalist element with some of the right-wing preachers in this video, like Douglas Wilson, who wrote a book glorifying American slavery and said crazy things like rape hardly ever happened in American slavery.

I haven’t finished this yet, but thank you for not closing down during Covid! I am Lutheran, but we attended a Baptist church, while ours was closed down, and I visited Jack Hibbs church to thank him for not closing down and I’m hoping to get to John MacArthur‘s as well one of these days. So again thank you for not closing down! Thank you for continuing to preach the word and not for seeking the fellowship of believers. God bless you for your faithfulness!

You guys are spot on with your assignments! God bless.

Of all the names on that list I have the most respect for Douglas Wilson. His love for the Gospel coupled with his literary skills as a writer has been a blessing to the church.

@myrealnameisjohndoe116

Жыл бұрын

Agreed - There's a few that are certainly fighting the good fight, like John Macarthur and Voddie Bauchham, but Doug Wilson is pretty clearly leading the charge, and thus(IMHO) deserves the most respect.

@gloriateff9071

Жыл бұрын

Same here, he is a huge blessing to the church. Love to hear his take on things and am so thankful he is not afraid to speak up and say what needs to be said in a truthful manner.

@a.d.marshall2748

Жыл бұрын

Replacement theology is satanic and literally, expressly, and clearly, accursed in God's word. If he's still alive, he needs to repent and get saved.

@markshaneh

Жыл бұрын

@@myrealnameisjohndoe116 Doug Wilson is reformed but not a Calvinist, he mostly identified as a “ New Testament Christian .

@markshaneh

Жыл бұрын

@@a.d.marshall2748 who ?

Virtually nobody in the comment section seems to remember that no real pastor would be telling a Christian to trust them or anyone else. They would be telling ppl to fact check them against the Bible, but this mentality is literally non-existent in the traditional Christian world. I seem to remember Christ saying "woe when men speak well of you".

@USMC-cv5sd

7 ай бұрын

John MacArthur tells people what to do and what to think about everything.

@heather602

6 ай бұрын

​@@USMC-cv5sdJmac is a wolf. He teaches that one can receive the mark of the beast and still be saved. He also teaches that the blood of Christ doesn't save us.

@USMC-cv5sd

6 ай бұрын

@@heather602 Yeah, his teaching is problematic.

@jankragt7789

4 ай бұрын

This is a very good warning but is said fairly often. Two things: 1. This podcast is in the face of the Christian masses as a whole so quickly going down & under in the face of Woke Leftism. Megan and Joel are pointing you to the pastors that have stood up in the face of that tsunami to point the way out to safety. 2. So many speak of the how much these pastors helped them to find the way over many many years, that it is obviously important. That we not put FAITH in such pastors is however a good warning.

Agree on JMAC moving from Pietist to Persevering.

Hey theonomists-1 Timothy 1:5-7 (NASB95): 5 But the goal of our instruction is love from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith. 6 For some men, straying from these things, have turned aside to fruitless discussion, 7 wanting to be teachers of the Law, even though they do not understand either what they are saying or the matters about which they make confident assertions.

The only Pastor I trust is the One who spoke the Truth, Jesus, My Shepherd. Don't get me wrong, there are some good Preachers out there. I like those who Preach from the Whole Word of God, without adding or deleting from It. 😊

@rodrogers6895

Жыл бұрын

With 46,000 Christian denominations to choose from, each with multiple pastors defending them, I choose to listen to those who cause the least harm. The greatest barrier between God and man is the Church.

@jaihummel5057

10 ай бұрын

​@@rodrogers6895Hm, I don't think Jesus' bride whom he loves is a barrier whatsoever. You should speak more highly of your savior's wife.

@mjm00011

9 ай бұрын

As it should be.

My favourites are RC Sproul, John MacArthur, Alistair Begg

@cdsersd2d

2 ай бұрын

J Vernon McGee as well.

Excellent Discussion...Thank you...,🙏

Im not Calvinist but the best most trustworthy ministers are. Baucham all day every day and Dr. McArthur, and for the most part Piper.

@cherylallis2458

Жыл бұрын

So, you are not a non-Calvinist either.

@chucklemethis3329

Жыл бұрын

@@cherylallis2458 that doesnt make any sense. I either am or Im not. I am not. They stick to the Word properly. Our none salvation based conclusions differ in areas. Im willing to admit its maybe something I dont see, but I wont blindly follow anyones belief.

@geod3589

7 ай бұрын

@@linjicakonikon7666 Exactly .. quit listening and following these men. Get into the Bible instead.

@sonofman9404

Ай бұрын

Sorry Piper is too Shallow!

I only trust the scriptures alone. Yes a pastor can get you started. But ultimately We are responsible for studying the scriptures for ourselves. I have been saved for 40 years. And over those years I have discovered that not all men are totally correct In their theology and it will be you alone that will be judged by God. Glean what you can from as many as you can, but be like the Bereans and study to show yourself approved.

the statement MacArthur refused to sign with Colson was about ecumenical togetherness with the Catholic church, Sproul and James Kennedy also didn't sign.

@judyswiderski2682

3 ай бұрын

Yet, MacArthur had study bibles with his comments in.them Thry are called the John MacArthur study bibles When he came to John 7:8 he did not yell blasphemy when he read that Jesus liedvto his brothers saying that He was not going to the feast! Thst meant that he intended to bresk Moses' law. But, instead, he wais anf then goes to the same feast! BLASPHEMY.

@cdsersd2d

2 ай бұрын

J Vernon McGee probably didn't either. Best teacher.

I believe that when the church and authors started focusing on love and minimizing doctrine, we weaken Christians to deal with this modern world. It is hard to stand for your faith and position when you are not fully clear on it yourself.

I am REALLY enjoying this! Joel's commentary on Chandler, and ESPECIALLY Driscoll, is SO good! Astute, insightful, discerning, just spot on. I LOVE what Joel said about "what is 'gentle'"? And he's spot on that one MUST be more concerned with the Message than the Messenger and particularly SUBSTANCE over Tone!! Equally spot on when he says there is a line and when Driscoll moved over into just plain being crude that crossed the line. There's a LOT of REALLY good stuff here. I find myself amazed at times by the discernment and insight. Not sure I would characterize the 3 Categories in the same way but very much grouping them the same. The only one that surprised me thus far was Gavin Ortlund. I know some time back and lit into him for something. I think it was his interview with WLC where he did nothing to challenge Craig's suppositions about Genesis being Mytho-History and Adam & Eve not being literal but I'm not sure. But then just this past Sunday I watched his video on Icon Veneration and thought it was superb. Chandler is a bit of a pickle. Early on I saw some stuff from him that I just LOVED. Then I saw some stuff, particularly the CRT stuff, that concerned me. I think Megan nailed it with her summation that he was just trying to sit at the table with the boys. I think Matt was just trying to stay relevant and be a Peacemaker. His heart was probably in the right place but he was operating from the Flesh. Gotta take a break and go make sure the critters are all put to bed for the night. Look forward to the last half. Btw Joel, should you see this, FWIW, I've enjoyed several of your videos too but I know there have been at least a couple where you completely missed the mark. I think there was one, if I remember right, that was really bad. But they're always thought-provoking and edifying in some ways. Take that from someone who's NOT a Calvinist, a Confessionalist, or a Covenantalist.

48:02 I think a good number of us evolved in our opinions regarding Covid. We wanted to be safe, to keep our families safe, etc., but we experienced all the fear mongering and the inconsistencies regarding what was “essential” and what was not. John MacArthur was a leader and a trailblazer regarding the Covid issue.

Thank you so much for this very discerning video!

I go to Grace community, and have spoken to a guy that was with Pastor John in the early years. He told me that for a while Pastor John had a problem with one of the Doctrines of Grace. I believe it was the doctrine of Limited atonement or Election not sure, but Pastor John finally excepted all of them.

@richmondpennokee

2 ай бұрын

Have you listened to his sermon from 1 Timothy 2:4 from way early in his ministry. I wonder if that relates to what you are talking about?

There's never ever a need for killing a baby

I’d love to hear your thoughts on Paul Washer.

@jammin6816

3 ай бұрын

Paul Washer is intensely cleansing if one is humble enough to recognize.

I've watched this one a couple times. Great job Pastor Joel conveying what and who are some big names in error and a few who are solid, God-fearing Church leaders!! 'The Apostle Paul never rebukes one's tone but rather whether they are in Biblical error.' So True.

@USMC-cv5sd

7 ай бұрын

I find that it's people who were on the side of the white nationalists and pro confederate like MacArthur was vs people who are against racism like Michael Horton , Tim Keller, John Piper, and Russell Moore. You don't even know what "woke" is.....that's something that was used in the black community in the 60's.....anyone who isn't pro confederate and anti black is "woke" now. It's also those racist Christians who support Trump like Robert Jeffries and those who call him out on his lack of character and his bigotry. Kenneth Talbot and Douglas Wilson are extremely pro American slavery and pro confederate, and they signed that anti social justice statement......so their idea of justice and a perfect society is one where black people are dehumanized. George Washington ordered vaccines for the troops. Conservatism isn't intrinsically holy, that is idolatry......Conservatism has ALWAYS been against minority human rights. You guys are not prolife. A million people died from covid-19 and you bastarfs dont care. You just use abortion to justify your hatred and bigotry.

Great topic!

OK now that I put in my two cents on just about everything that’s been commented, sorry. Anyway, thank you so much for the show. It was very informative. I really enjoyed it. And thanks for all the comments. They were fun to read.😊

I have been waiting a loooooong time for someone to do one on THIS! I'm gonna make a quick one here and then get back cuz, like you, I'm VERY curious to see whose in my own same "wavelength". Talk at ya in a few..😁

As a Reformed Arminian pastor of a small Baptist church, I can relate to the new fault lines. I have several (very) Reformed Calvinist Presbyterian friends who attend our church because they know that I won’t let us shut down in the future.

Loved this podcast

In my prayer group we were asked to create our discipleship tree, the branches that discipled each of us and the ones we are now discipling I have not been personally discipled by anyone, all of my discipleship has been virtually, from James white, Voddie Baucham, Doug Wilson, John MacArthur, Jeff Durbin, Tom Ascol, Gary DeMar and recently pastor @Zach Davis I didn’tshare my tree bc I’m not sure having been discipled by these men via KZread and their foundations is discipleship but I have not found anyone personally that meets the standards these men set to disciple me I’m hungry for that, though

@a.d.marshall2748

Жыл бұрын

Nothing in your post is in the Bible. Get the one that pompous tattooed drunkard hates, the King James Bible, and get into a church that believes and obeys it. kzread.info/dash/bejne/qISLxbx9o7Leo9I.html

The assessment regarding Gavin Ortlund misses the mark, for at least two reasons. 1. To put him in the "Neo-marxist" camp just because he emphasises adressing climate change and white supremacy is overly simplistic. You really don't have to be anything approximating a postmodern socialist, in order to hold Dr. Ortlund's positions. Also, the idea that he's ALWAYS on the political left, is just wrong. For example, he's staunchly pro-life. Furthermore, calling him a race hustler and comparing him to Al Sharpton is just not a serious or constructive way to argue one's point. 2. Let's say, for the sake of the argument, that he IS on the political left. From that does not follow that he's not a Faithful/Persevering pastor. To imply that you're, by definition, not a faithful pastor if you're on the political left is to create an unnecessary dichotomy. I say this as conservative Christian who's been politically active in a right-wing party for over a decade. You do not have to agree with pastor Ortlund politically, but you can still acknowledge that he does a lot of good work for the Kingdom of God. That being said, may God bless you, pastor Joel!🙏

@Jimmy-iy9pl

Жыл бұрын

Pastor Joel is also a Reformed Presuppostionalist who has a disdain for philosophy and "reason" - as he puts it. If I had to guess, Ortlund's careful and charitable attitude towards engaging non-Protestants, and his nuanced perspectives on various controversial issues, probably doesn't sit right with Joel's own philosophical inclinations. But Ortlund is a serious thinker, unlike most in the Reformed Presuppositionalist camp.

I am with J. Max. as a pretribulation dispensationalist. My belief is simple, the Bible says what it says to tell us what God wants to tell us. If it’s not literal then the Bible says whatever I want it to say which puts us in the place we are today. Verses used out of context, misused by accident and on purpose. It allows “preachers” like Copeland, Hinn, Sharpton and Jackson to get where they are by allowing by opening the door for “other” interpretations. “Not a sermon, Just a thought”.

Have always enjoyed Megan's work. This was a great video. Nice overview of these pastors.

At @ 44:00 was Megan speaking about either the ECT or the Manhattan declaration?

Agree with basically every single take, except Piper. JP has been faithful to careful biblical examination of virtually every topic under the sun for 40 years. His position on Trump was more about disdain for the deadliest sin of all (pride) than some kind of silent approval of the left, or vacillating on abortion. He's been as outspoken about abortion over the years as anyone. He's as faithful to Gods Word as they come. Other than that, loved the perspective on all the others! Great stuff.

@WalkingbytheSpiritAlways

Жыл бұрын

Piper used to be so good on divorce and remarriage being adultery, but then he corrupted his teaching that you should remain in the adulterous marriage when Jesus says that they must repent and forsake the sin especially when HE said it is inside the church in Revelation 2-3.

When you say 2 kingdoms, light/dark, where does that fit with the here/not yet kingdom motifs?

I like this video, though timestamps would have been a nice inclusion for the various Pastors listed. Overall, thanks for this information, I certainly appreciated it.

Very helpful discussion.

I trust Holy Spirit leading me thru the scriptures

I like different pastors for different things. I like Doug Wilson's sermons, his blog, his reacts. I never watch or listen to him on eschatology. I like James White in conversations and debates. I appreciated Pastor MacArthur when covid related tyranny raged. Pastor Webbon is okay with interviews. My trust is in the Lord, the God of Israel, maker of heaven and earth, so there is no compulsion to fully agree with any Pastor. I think being a Berean, and studying Scripture carefully , prayerfully, and often is a good practice; with all due respect to those pastors who love the Lord and his word.

Love this. The late RC Sproul❤ and John MacAthur are my favorite pastors

That's why I don't tell people when asked my political affiliation, that I'm a Republican. I say "I'm a conservative Christian. I'm a conservative, because I'm a Christian, not the other way around. It's my Christian faith, that informs my political phylosophy.

Thank you

I love Johnny Mac!

@shadowbannedforspeakingtru1436

Жыл бұрын

That is because you love deception.

@nathanhunt6208

Жыл бұрын

@@shadowbannedforspeakingtru1436 lol wat

@shadowbannedforspeakingtru1436

Жыл бұрын

@@nathanhunt6208 ,...The fact is, none of these guys are Christians. They are all just actors and salesmen selling a product, a false christianity. They are all deceivers and no actual Christian is deceived by them.

@nathanhunt6208

Жыл бұрын

@@shadowbannedforspeakingtru1436 Could you explain what you mean by that? What is real Christianity to you?

@shadowbannedforspeakingtru1436

Жыл бұрын

@@nathanhunt6208 ,....Yes, of course. there are two Christianity's, one real, and one fake. One of God, and one of the Godless world. The one that is of the Godless world the Bible calls antichrist. And this simply means a counterfeit version of, and a replacement for the Bibles real Christianity. This antichrist version is what the entire church sells. Actual Christianity is completely outside of everything called the church. The church is just a marketplace for the buying and selling of the worlds antichrist gospel. Only those who have come into the world, (the beast) marked by the world, (the beast) can buy and sell (get snared into) this antichrist christianity. None of the few Jesus has sealed can buy nor sell the fake christianity that the entire 100% apostate church sells. They are all outside of everything known as the church. Jesus came to redeem/save the few who are his chosen ones, his elect, these are the actual Christians. Jesus does not bring his chosen ones into the 100% apostate church, he brings them out of it, just as he brought his disciples out of the apostate church if his day. Real Christianity is made up of those who belong to Jesus, his chosen ones, his elect. These few have nothing to do with anything called or known as the church that is all 100% apostate. They have all fled to the wilderness (spiritually speaking) and have come out of her (the whore) that is the church.

In regard to Piper, I don't know much about where they spoke about his seminary and what he might have been "naïve" about. But in regard to the article he wrote before the last election, I thought the criticism was highly myopic. It is the criticism of two people who think Trump had to win (and I think falsely prioritize that up with central Kingdom and Gospel issues), and will get bent about any negative expressions about Trump that might have worked against him in the election. Piper did not write as if Trump had a monopoly on pride. He was expressing concern with his observation Evangelical Christians were sweeping that and other obvious Trump sin issues under the rug in favor of social policy issues. And if Evangelical Christians vote in high percentages for Trump in the upcoming primaries, I think Piper will more or less be proven right in his concerns. When the choice is not so narrowed down and polarized and we can choose between people of similar policy stances, and if we still ignore the issues Piper brought up in that article.

Justin Peters humble, good man of God.

“Russell Moore is driven by personal grievance yet I’m going to shun Gavin Ortlund for talking about climate change.” Haha give me a break woman

@mikeinva8563

5 ай бұрын

I find Gavin to be very helpful in grounding Protestantism with the early church and church fathers. It really was a reform to remove accretions.

Tim Keller helped lead me back to Christ in my senior years. He recounted an episode of an illuminating conversation between J.R.R. Tolkien and C.S. Lewis as they walked along the River Cherwell during their teaching years. Tolkien challenged his friend to consider that the other writer of children's stories consider that the Bible is wonderfully believable just as the fairy tales in which the characters lived happily ever after were for a child. My heart for Christ was reawakened as the love I'd known for Christ as a young child was reignited.-- If we choose to analyze and scrutinize every pastor's preaching with a mind to ferret out each and every mistake (some more serious, clearly, than others), what will we be left with? A landscape of destruction as those whose understanding and "perfect" discernment have castigated and cast aside the offenders? I listened very closely to your thoughtful interchange, but am left with this overarching question: What is the purpose of this vlog, and how would you propose that your audience proceed with the information you share? To be fair, I understand the critiques you make, but am left troubled that so few ultimately can approach "perfect" theological scholarship, integration, and ministry.

So very right. Rapid launch into the stratosphere of preachers is extremely dangerous.

Wow, she is really nuanced on Piper, well said!

John MacArthur, Paul Washer , R C Sproul, Miguel Núñez , Steve Lawson, Burk Parsons .

THIS WOMAN was Amazing!!!!!! I haven't seen a woman this Biblical since my early days of learning back in the 90's and upwards!!!!!

@ChristyeLynn

7 ай бұрын

She barely said anything about Scripture…

GOOD SHOW!!!!

Some of the names I did not know but they were the progressive guys so doesn't matter to me...if I heard them some time in the future, I'd recognize they were off base. I've been to numerous Ligonier conferences and miss RC. I have also purchased many books from Canon Press and still have all my old copies of Credenda Agenda. I met Doug Wilson's father, Jim Wilson, 49 years ago and he was the definite influence on all his kids. He wrote a wonderful little book, "How To Be Free From Bitterness" which helped heal my marriage.

“If the tyrant forbids what God commands, you should not at all judge that you have performed your duty if you have merely refused to obey the tyrant, unless at the same time you obey the command of God.” - Theodore Beza

I appreciate your zeal and passion for ministry, Pastor Webbon. Admittedly, I struggle with a video like this. There are good things all of these men have to share and we have to recognize that none of them are infallible and need to be compared to scripture. “Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. The one who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?” ‭‭James‬ ‭4‬:‭11‬-‭12‬

@jamesraisch1876

Жыл бұрын

I had the same thoughts. Well said. More and more it's seems we are trying to tear down in the name of saying is judging righteously and it doesn't always feel like that's what really happening.

@Matt-zp1jn

Жыл бұрын

This video really seems like a more subjective gossiping kinda video that attempts to share opinions from these two regarding their personal feelings, thoughts, and denominational or secondary biblical issues in many ways. The 3 P’s (piety,progressive,persevere) that is just a loosely made up concept to frame the labels given to each pastor is really worth hardly anything in terms of value. There isn’t much biblical scripture presented here to back up the ranking positions, nor deep explanations that provide serious evidence overall either. Sure this may be lighthearted or whatever, but it does no real value in the end. There are hundreds or thousands of YT vids that will go into real scriptural breakdowns and explanations on sermons preached by any number of these men, both good and otherwise etc. The lady even admits a few times she hardly knows anything about some of the pastors she is supposedly trying to categorize into these 3P’s discussed. Obviously she knew in advance something about the topic to be discussed BEFORE this recording, and should have done her research, asked for some name changes to drop off, or just backed out etc. The channels host should have set this up better between him and his female guest theologian in advance, on making it a more objectively facts reasoned discussion, if at all. Kind of a waste of time imo, or maybe entertainment for some maybe.

@Matt-zp1jn

Жыл бұрын

If they were going to debate different pastors, I think the “pastors” like Michael Todd, Bethel church leader, Steven Furtick, TD Jakes, Joel Osteen, Kenneth Copeland, etc are much better choices to discern, debate, chasten, and raise real questions about to warn viewers and new believers etc…

@johnnyc1227

Жыл бұрын

Too many Christians don't hold the Bible's theology as strongly. Paul was moved by the Holy Spirit to go against those who were misleading others down the wrong path. He named names and anathematized them. To not address false teaching is to lend asent to it in the name of fopish politness & let weaker Christians be led astray even shipwrecked for a time. No one is immune from having their theology criticized.

@eeltrohs2247

Жыл бұрын

I don't know. Paul addressed his rebuke of Peter, which all Christians would become aware. Christians do need to be made aware. We aren't full gospel, we are part gospel. Most evangelism church leaders would not touch much of the bible, particularly certain statements by Jesus and Paul with a 10-foot pole. I regularly read my bible and I see so much disconnect by what I read and what I see mentioned in churches, both locally and on a broader level. This is very helpful. And, the people referenced, I highly doubt would changed even if this was addressed with them, and, probably all of it has by various folks.

I don't TRUST any of them, but I've learned from each.

A lot of clarity came out on Matt Chandler. The issues at the Village extend beyond ethnicity and into his legalistic attitude towards men and husbands particularly.

Alistair Begg is my favorite.

Nothing beats ripping on other pastors to elevate yourself; I just don’t think needle picking is helpful to a ministry when the real problem ‘pastors’ are Hinn/Copeland/Myers etc..

@carynborland1549

Жыл бұрын

I agree that Hinn, Copeland, Myers are definitely dangerous people. But some of these guys are as well. It’s more subtle. And that’s what you have to look at. It’s frustrating because I don’t like listening to people say bad things about other people, but unfortunately, in this day and age, you have to be vigilant and diligent with the people you listen to. It’s frustrating. I wish we could just, listen to people and be happy about it but it doesn’t work that way. Satan has a great way of deceiving people through those that we think might be on the right track. Luckily most of these people that they mentioned are people that they like or are pretty solid Christians. So that’s a good thing. That way we know who to listen to you or who to at least Hold in relatively high regard when it comes to scripture. I think that is the main goal of this. Because some of these “progressive“ people can be very very dangerous. There are some in my denomination as well, and I’ve just become aware of them. And I’m very thankful for it, and started to become very outspoken about it because that is where New Age stuff and a lot of Non-Christian cultic factors can creep into the church and we don’t want that.

Thoughts on David Jeremiah?

What these times have done is expose who these people are good or bad , if they have a backbone or if they or a coward , if they are grounded in the word or not .

1 How blessed is the man who does not walk in the counsel of the wicked, Nor stand in the path of sinners, Nor sit in the seat of scoffers! 2 But his delight is in the law of the LORD, And in His law he meditates day and night. 3 He will be like a tree [firmly] planted by streams of water, Which yields its fruit in its season And its leaf does not wither; And in whatever he does, he prospers. How does one do this and be politically involved?

Hey Joel! Are you planning a response to Mike Wingers video?

@RightResponseMinistries

Жыл бұрын

I’d love to once the new studio is up and running.

@jaquirox6579

Жыл бұрын

@@RightResponseMinistries Awesome! We are excited to have u back again.

@RightResponseMinistries

Жыл бұрын

@@jaquirox6579 me too!

@jaquirox6579

Жыл бұрын

@@RightResponseMinistries Have you considered doing any brief and direct selfie style videos with your phone, in the meantime? It’s a casual recording, so no one expects perfection, and you could address any random things coming up in society, that are urging you. Hah! It could even turn into an extra side playlist for your channel. Lots of content creators do some of that style videos. I would 100% support and watch them.

@RightResponseMinistries

Жыл бұрын

@@jaquirox6579 Great idea. I’ll seriously consider it!

I just discovered your channel and have subscribed. I really appreciate your insights and agree with your well thought out analysis of the ten pastors. I believe Les Feldick, who recently passed, was a faithful saint. I thank God for you and your wisdom! God bless!

@a.d.marshall2748

Жыл бұрын

Bible says let him be accursed, twice. I don't want to go where he went. Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

It seems as if we (me) have gone full circle from Chuck Smith to Amy Simpson McFearson.. and in between. Straight to Calvinism .. I have to say I feel like it's True Truth.. Trying to find a church here in Medford, Oregon.. seems very difficult. I will keep looking.

The infallability of God versus the Fallibility of man Who would you trust Even the best of pastors can stray!

I really appreciate the statement that the pastor must be a generalist and not a specialist.

Where would you rank/label: Alastair Begg, Joel Beeke, Tom Ascol, Virgil Walker,Sinclair Ferguson, Conrad Mbewe, Paul Washer, Al Mohler, Jeff Durbin, & Steve Lawson (all among my favorites)…and second question; while I don’t like Charles Stanley, Mark Dever, Franklin Graham, or Ligon Duncan, do their separate, but concerning issues rise them to the level of them being called false teachers?

@shadowbannedforspeakingtru1436

Жыл бұрын

PC,....All those you mentioned are all frauds and are not Christians. They are all the sellers of the Godless worlds (the beasts) counterfeit (antichrist) christianity.

@patrickc3419

Жыл бұрын

@@shadowbannedforspeakingtru1436 So what you’re saying is don’t send you a bouquet of tulips? 🌷

@shadowbannedforspeakingtru1436

Жыл бұрын

@@patrickc3419 ,...What the church calls Calvinism is the true gospel, however, none of these guys are Christians. Just because they pretend to go along with "Calvinism" does not mean anything. It is no different than any preacher pretending to go along with Jesus. The entire church is 100% apostate and what the people of the church say they believe means nothing. There are no Christians in the church.

@patrickc3419

Жыл бұрын

@@shadowbannedforspeakingtru1436 Sir, repent and believe the Gospel; turn to Christ and live. 👋

@shadowbannedforspeakingtru1436

Жыл бұрын

@@patrickc3419 ,...The gospel is what Calvin correctly understood as do all actual Christians. Any other gospel (the 100% apostate churches false manmade freewill gospel) is a fraud and is the gospel of the accursed. No man can turn to Christ. They can only be deceived into thinking they can. You are steeped in darkness, deception, and a 100% counterfeit (antichrist) christianity.

MY TOP FIVE: Jeff Durbin, Voddie Bachman, Paul Washer, Mark Driscoll, John MacArthur

@kaylamyers9090

Күн бұрын

Best to maybe do some research on Driscoll.

@jammin6816

Күн бұрын

@@kaylamyers9090 - I’ve been watching Mark’s sermons for the last 12 years and they’re 100% true to the Bible. He’s been subject to a lot of slander and misinformation over the years but I believe he’s an excellent leader.

Be nice to have a picture of the person you’re talking about. I’m not sure who’s Tim Cohen

Love voddie

What a great point about Michael Horton. You can always count on him for great doctrine but that he will apply it to nothing.

Is the list you just named, are all Calvanist pastors?

W.E. Best was a great preacher I love his teachings

@rodneymoore3485

Жыл бұрын

Love John MacArthur he good.

cant always be nice but always be kind

i’m just curious… why do you have a woman here giving theology counsel? 1 timothy 2:12?

That document J Mac wouldn’t sign along with RC Sproul and D James Kennedy was Evangelicals and Catholics together. On the other side pro Roman Catholic was Chuck Colson, JI Packer and Bill Bright. Great short story J Mac gave at RC’s memorial about what happened there. Wish he would write about what happened, I think it parallels todays mushy churches in the name of tolerance.

A lot of comments here saying “Only the Scriptures!” ect, but remember the Scriptures tell us that God has given the Church Pastors. Yes we do not look to Pastors as a final authority, but we are to submit to godly and faithful Pastors if we are to obey the Scriptures.

Video info starts around 6:00

A question - Is Justin Peters a Pastor? If not, what degrees has he? Thank you .

@carynborland1549

Жыл бұрын

That’s a good question. I think he is. I think he does have his doctorate as well. He was at the shepherding conference or whatever that is and spoke at dad and I’m assuming you kind of should be a pastor or a very well renowned theologian in order to do that. He is reformed, Calvinist, cessationist. I might’ve got that wrong. I know it’s spelled it wrong. He is interesting. A lot of these guys are. He does try to stay scriptural, which I do appreciate. I may not agree with everything he says, but nothing he says is dangerous.

Just one question! Why Paul?

Thanks

@RightResponseMinistries

Жыл бұрын

We appreciate it!

I don’t agree with you on Dr Ortlund, or at least I haven’t seen reason to accept what you’re saying. I listen to him all the time and never really hear him talk politically. What am I missing?

I do think that sometimes we get so wrapped up in national and global politics and that we forget about our own households and neighborhoods. I am very much a “take the plank from your own eye to see clearly enough to remove the speck from your brother’s eye” kind of person. If our lives are grounded in sin and our families are grounded in sin, why are we surprised when our country falls to sin?

@brendan9218

5 ай бұрын

I need jesus help to get the plank out and keep it out for good.

I’d like to hear your thoughts on Mike winger’s response to y’all conversation!?!??!?!?!?

@dustinnyblom7835

Жыл бұрын

Not so good

@RightResponseMinistries

Жыл бұрын

Antinomian.

@penguinblanche

Жыл бұрын

Given how much he praised the brotherliness of your conversation, this abrupt accusation and condemnation seems inappropriate to brothers. Antinomianism is a serious heresy. I’m not sure it should be flung at a well-meaning brother as a one-word slander in a KZread response to a third party. A full reply or video detailing and calling out a false teacher of heresy would be more appropriate if it is true you believe he is an antinomian.

@patrickc3419

Жыл бұрын

I’m embarrassed to say I’ve literally only heard his name for the first time a couple of months ago; I’ve heard he’s no good but don’t know why?

@penguinblanche

Жыл бұрын

You may have heard that because he’s not Reformed. But he’s also not bad, in my opinion. There are large swathes of agreement between real, biblically-minded Christians from all camps/denominations, and in these times that’s something to enjoy and celebrate, as well as peaceful, brotherly discussions and debates on points of disagreement.

We knew RC fairly well. He was a Partial Preterist an mostly a reformed Amilenialist. Not sure why you are claiming him in the Theonomy camp or at least the Post Mil Camp. He would have reservations with a some of what you hold to. He is also in a whole different level when it comes to theological precision. Theonomists seem to think they have figured it all out not only for themselves but for everyone else as well. Age brings wisdom. Slow down a bit.