I'm proudly British and as a speedway fan from back in the day the US riders (especially Penhall, Sigalos and the Moran brothers) were universally liked by English speedway fans and their UK team-mates. Bruce Penhall in his day blew every other rider off the track. When he won the world championship he totally deserved it. Anyone who calls him a cheat is an idiot.

@Holden308

5 жыл бұрын

Penhall wasn't the first rider to do this for the sake of his countrymen to qualify and really, he wasn't the last. I didn't see it as cheating. I mean, would it have been any different if his engine had failed?

@SuzyQ334

5 жыл бұрын

@@Holden308 Exactly. The Swedish, Polish and Danish riders were all good UK team players but in international competitions they looked after their own fellow countrymen. That's sport and that's patriotism, which I believe is a dirty word these days. I miss my speedway but us British fans loved all the overseas blow-ins. xxx

@stuartwhitaker6209

5 жыл бұрын

Universally liked? Seriously?

@dustyroads5409

5 жыл бұрын

@Susannah Hayward Never a cheat, always the team player in life and family. Kodus to Bruce

@sailorman8668

5 жыл бұрын

@@dustyroads5409 Yeah, but on this occassion, he made a very bad decision, and broke a racing rule in the process.

BP was classy & honest in his interview ...

Thanks for sharing this Martyn Hepworth. Great memories for an old speedway fan. xx

@martynhepworthArchiveSpeedway

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Susannah, my 1st meeting was at Weymouth in 1974, still love the Sport.

Bruce had a brilliant riding style l watched him win his first world title he was certainly no cheat but an American rider who was missed when he retired.

@archieevans4822

3 жыл бұрын

He was a cheat his he was high as a kite on drugs most races a disgrace to the sport

@kevinbrookes4870

2 жыл бұрын

Well he cheated at this meeting. Ordered to by the team manager or not is irrelevant. If someone tells you to jump in the fire you wouldn't would you? A disgrace he was here. Should've had pts deduction and he wouldn't have been in the final at all

@quartusbuys6831

2 жыл бұрын

@@archieevans4822 seems you and many others had a issue with him. I think he was faarking good.

@SuzyQ334

2 жыл бұрын

Bruce was a brilliant speedway rider ... and one of the nicest human beings in the sport.

@ashleyprincess1253

Жыл бұрын

@@SuzyQ334 Iii

Im english but bruce and his fellow americans were what made british speedway what it was in the late 70s early 80s, entertainment

@fivecitydirttracker4776

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you. He was something.

@SuzyQ334

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely Robert. I'm English too. xx

What the hell else could he do but help out his buddies? If it was an English rider doing it he would have been given a standing ovation, in the early eighties apart from Michael Lee and to a lesser extent Carter no English rider could hold a candle to Penhall....as for all the Muppets in the crowd and in the press that slaughtered him at the time calling him a cheat etc, the fact he threw away 3 points in his last ride meant an English rider won the meeting...this fact seems to have passed everybody by.....

It's no diffrent than when Bob Hannah was shown on his pit board to" let Broc bye" in motocross by their Yamaha management

Kenny Carter the best British speedway rider I've ever seen.

@nervo6321

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t have gone that far…Peter Collins and Michael Lee at their peak were far and away superior riders in every respect.

To me it looks like Bruce took one for the team and was ORDERED to do so. He looked gutted about it and didnt blame the management.

Away from the controversy for a moment, I think the White City stadium is now the Westfield shopping centre. No doubt you can hear the ghostly roar of the bikes as you circulate among the Armani, Hugo Boss and other assorted cathedrals of consumerism. Sigh...

@Win-xl7no

6 жыл бұрын

It's not where Westfield is. Its further up towards the A40. Offices and flats are where the stadium are now.

@SuzyQ334

5 жыл бұрын

@@Win-xl7no That is sad to hear. This old Londoner's two big loves in the late 70s/early 80s was speedway and rock music. White City was to speedway what Wembley was/is to rock music.

@SuzyQ334

5 жыл бұрын

Oh gawd, Michael Porter ... is it true that they've turned the brilliant White City Stadium into a Westfield shopping centre? Bearing in mind that retailers are going belly up every day (even classy John Lewis are starting to close retail stores), this old ex-pat living in Oz can only apologise that Australia has given the UK one of the most boring, generic, overpriced and customer-unfriendly shopping "experiences" ever invented. No wonder we're all shopping online, or not shopping at all.

@calloverpete1318

4 жыл бұрын

No the site is offices for the BBC.

I like the interviews. These guys were reserved and had class.

"I've seen it done by the Eastern Europeans" Ouch! Never liked imposing team tactics on solo sports.

i was there all those years ago.travelled all the way from sheffield to support shawn moran a true tigers hero.but it didnt feel right.Jessup was gifted the win.it was a bad day for speedway

It's called sandbagging, in the US it is anyway. When a rider purposely rides below their skill level for the benefit of someone else, or maybe because of a points situation, I don't know.

Dave Lanning - THE voice of speedway!

@SuzyQ334

5 жыл бұрын

He was good wasn't he?

@mike_skinner

5 жыл бұрын

Eastbourne Eagles

They deliberately made it a team sport, nation vs Nation, and there were no rules against it, it had been done previously. Penhall was under team orders.

Competition invites injury, if you don't need the points, stay off the throttle. Less chance of needless mishap to yourself or your teammates. No dishonor in that at all.

I remember being at this final everyone was booing Bruce

The last heat was the best, criss-crossing lines, excellent.

It was nothing more than pure gamesmanship, Bruce put his fellow countryman before himself. What's the problem?

@MrDavidfball

6 жыл бұрын

he could have been excluded for not racing it is a rule in speedway

@KWN-Cards

6 жыл бұрын

Yep, I'm aware of the rule. As much as I disagree with it, it is a rule, but that still don't take away from Bruce putting team and country first. I'm not a big Penhall fan, but I will give credit where credit is due.

@hakapik683

6 жыл бұрын

He threw the race so the bottom of the barrel shit u.s. riders could get through at the expense of the superior British riders. He sucks. Dont get that? Whats the problem?

@KWN-Cards

6 жыл бұрын

Awwww yu're so cute.

@bradleyupdyke9492

6 жыл бұрын

@Hakapik; were they on his team? If so it's called team riding nothing BS about it. Superior British riders Hell Penhall, Kelly and Shawn Moran all were top of the heap over in England Speedway racing... Penhall won back to back WORLD championships... yea barrel of shit U.S riders... how many did Kenny Carter win... enough said...

He was honest about it. Credit there.

Team player,we need more of that these days.

@deanwilliams4365

5 жыл бұрын

But its not a team sport, so team playing is cheating. as a result of these tactics and because the governing committee did not ban and or suspend such riders the sport disappeared within 5 years

@sailorman8668

5 жыл бұрын

Penhall broke the rule regarding 'must make a bonafide effort' - you missed that my friend?

@dustyroads5409

Жыл бұрын

Kenny broke the fundamental rules in life with his wife. Enough said on this subject

Bruce was my favourite rider (after Steve Wilcock). All he had to do was bust the tapes, put his hand up and retire... anything other than fanny about at the back. It would have been so easy to not make it look obvious.

@markme4

10 ай бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking, he could have made it look like he was trying, I mean no one wins them all right?

Team play !! When similar was done for the team at Cradley it was looked upon with heartfelt gratitude and praised :) one of the things i always loved about speedway ... individual & team sport at same time ... i still remember a time when a team mate let my uncle Dave pass him for first place to get the points he needed, it was a 5-1 win either way of course but still a lovely gesture to sacrifice your win to help someone else in your team ; ) which i also saw many times over .... no different here in my opinion ... Bruce a true Hero for his country ... sacrificed for the good of his team .... good on him i say and God Bless Speedway :)

Phil Collins is out of it. Good thing he had that singing career.

@bradrook3919

4 жыл бұрын

lol..

Ronnie Moore and Bruce Penhall my favorite. two old school riders . not that they ever raced each other.few yrs apart

@Kurt_Steiner

Жыл бұрын

Was a dons supporter in the day.... Ronnie Moore was god...

dave jessop, uncrowned undisputed world champ unlucky on many occassions

He put his country before himself ....... that says something about his character - right or wrong.

He didn't cheat that's doing it for his country

And this is a good example why there is No I in the word team.

Damn I hated this tool , and when the kid went to CHiPs he showed how cheezy he was 👹

#2 in the yellow gear looks a lot like Bob Hannah on a Speedway bike. :)

Whold love to see anything with Sören Sjösten

you legend bruce

All you had to do is qualifier for next round.

No no no. Cheating is putting "hot fuel" in your float bowl for a better start, and not being able to detect it in your tank. :) Did they do that? Well, we will never know now, will we? :)

@danielneece6404

3 жыл бұрын

I didn’t know that was possible but sounds good

didn't realise that Alan Partidge commentated on speedway too!

Right on

I was there for this meeting and while most people could agree with the reasons I think it was the fact Penhall was popping wheelies at the back and that was taking the mick out of the fans and that's what I and many others didn't like

@DavidLee-no9uc

6 жыл бұрын

And so your saying YOU have a problem with someone expressing themselves by popping wheelies?...Are you GAY?

@ianfaultless3240

6 жыл бұрын

David Lee Are you homophobic?

@SteveMagr

6 жыл бұрын

Penhall has said since the incident he should not have done wheelies behind the other Americans. That really antagonised the crowd. His big mistake.

@SuzyQ334

6 жыл бұрын

ian, I think you're over-thinking a very basic sport. Truth is, Bruce Penhall blew every other rider off the pitch that day. He was just doing his job. He wasn't taking the mick out of anyone.

@deanwilliams4365

5 жыл бұрын

Hay i was there as well, while i do not agree completely with your comment, as i would say, given the bunch i was there with ( a team) that the crowd had a fairly good knowledge of how the points were stacking. and the individual riders skills and talent. the booing was because he had tossed the race. a race he should have clearly won easily. but there are the british thinking of how much money did he get paid to do this. how much did the bookies rip the punters off for this? and many bookies got a slap after this race. while it is understandable for the soviets to do this since they are sneaky bastards to start with, but it was a shock to see americans bring team tactics into an individual sport. it killed the sport, thank you america! as for the wheelies, that just confirmed him as a wanker

Absolutely epic !

@martynhepworthArchiveSpeedway

5 жыл бұрын

I was there Adam and I Booooo'd at the top of my Voice. You were only 5 at the time. Did you Boo or cheer when you watched It?

@johnthomson3772

4 жыл бұрын

That was pathetic wouldn't happen today

Um, how about the manufactured race with Jessup, Lee, Mauger and Ross in the 1981 Overseas? Or the Danes (Olsen/Gundersen/Petersen) in Heat 20 of the 1982 ICF? Why pick on Penhall? Double standards.

@deanwilliams4365

5 жыл бұрын

a friggin big difference. 1 Jessup, Lee, Mauger and Ross in the 1981 Overseas. this was not a points set up to promote one country over another by manipulation. all the riders had enough points anyway to advance. it was only a rubbish report in the daily mirror who sponsored the race that was upset. 2 they didn't even qualify that year so ????

@robpeasley1482

5 жыл бұрын

Eh? Both Lee and Mauger needed first or second from that final ride in the 1981 Overseas to qualify, and Jessup and Ross were happy to sit back and let them pick up the points. As for the 1982 ICF, Petersen lost in the run-off, but before that in Heat 20, he was waved by Olsen and Gundersen on the final bend. No difference. Just singling out Bruce Penhall. As I said before, double standards.

Referee in grey suit surely spent a lot on dry cleaning.

Just plain fun to watch! I'll stay out of the politics, I ride but not like the pro's.

Can anyone imagine K C in Chips?

Well to me that incident and how the British "fans" treated Penhall contributed to him quitting after Los Angeles. Who lost then?

@martynhepworthArchiveSpeedway

4 ай бұрын

Penhall lost out as his 'Movie career' flopped big time.

Let me in that race ...... I show them how to come in last

Speedway great sport invented by Australia dominated by Europe. Yet another great producer we made nothing out of . Bruce Penal did nothing wrong

@sailorman8668

5 жыл бұрын

'Dominated by Europe'? At one stage, the sport was dominated by New Zealand riders.

Penhall should've been punished for that. Points deducted perhaps. Then he may not have been in the final at all.

Hell yeah

Something's are meant to be ! Have a Cupper and enjoy .

At least he was good enough to admit it. Team tactics are worse today with big money and constructors titles.

Bruce did his job.

has no one ever watched formula 1 if penhall is a cheat what is lewis Hamilton !!!!

Why is he cheating it just show penhall is not selfish put country and team before himself.

What do the helmet cover's do

@paulhebblethwaite7168

4 жыл бұрын

Blow off regularly!!

Im alittle late to the party.. I Surely would NOT say he is a cheat.. Had he purposely wrecked an opponent or jumped a start, etc. That would be cheating. Bruce purposefully tanked the race to help his team mates. And lost money, lost the race (Which is hard for true competitors and especially top competitors.) . So he made a sacrifice for his team.. You can see by the interview, he clearly wasnt happy with having to do so. Lost money, lost stature, added loss to his permanent record which will be his legacy..

@richardleary9085

4 жыл бұрын

It

It cannot be cheating, IMO, if you do it completely openly, so everyone can see it happening and the referees do not conclude you were doing something wrong. I can understand it being unpopular and it could even be classed as unsportsmanlike, but if it was allowed to happen, therefore falling within the rules, then it can't be cheating. On the flip side there is a case for the rule covering a rider not bona fide effort to have been invoked, but again that's the decision of those paid to make such a judgment, not the rider's responsibility.

@G31mR

4 жыл бұрын

I agree. and even if he had been disqualified for not making a bonafide effort, the result would have been the same. Good for you, Bruce.

Super Stadium and track White City. Never got to go there myself unfortunately I First saw White City in an episode of the Sweeney. What became of it? Don't tell me a shopping complex, or housing estate.

@martynhepworthArchiveSpeedway

3 жыл бұрын

Think it became the BBC Broadcasting Centre.

Pinhall,you’ve been naughty have you? You naughty Americans just look at you.

@SuzyQ334

2 жыл бұрын

Pinhall? Really?

Pointing out dumb rules by taking advantage of them is the ultimate protest. If the dumb rule makers are going to give advantage to slower riders then why not shove it back in their face....

I read the title had to see what it was about, give me a break not even close to cheating team sportsmanship is all had it been a Brit no doubt standing ovation and knighthood would of been done Ahahahahahaah!

Wouldnt call it cheating but isnt there a rule in speedway that you have to show you are at least trying to race ? All this and the world champs to come and no controversy there then !!!!!!!!???????

I'd call that TEAM RIDING! a GOOD move on Penhall's part!

Bruce a cheat??? Get real, its embarassing to see an english crowd booing one of the riddrs that give british speedway all that entertainment,we need another bruce nowadays

@SuzyQ334

4 жыл бұрын

Robert ... we need speedway full stop! Having a speedway/KZread moment on a Sunday night in Sydney, Oz, I just watched a really depressing clip about Coventry Bees abandoned stadium. Thing is, Wimbledon stadium, home of my old team, is apparently now a housing estate.

@martynhepworthArchiveSpeedway

4 жыл бұрын

Bruce Penhall the Cheat 'question mark question mark'

@rob1921

4 жыл бұрын

Susannah Hayward totally agree, i was an hackney speedway fan/ second half rider..sadly long gone and zero chance of returning..

@fiveowaf454

4 жыл бұрын

I don't think it's embarrassing they were booing, Penhall made a decision which he was entitled to do, but at the same time his actions had a consequence that made him unpopular with the crowd, that's sport and people wouldn't watch it if there wasn't a lot of emotion invested in the whole thing.

It's only cheating if the Americans do it lol many other riders from other countries have done the same, even back then. Ofc it's the English who have an issue with it.

bruce, unlucky pawn of the controllers

the demise of speedway in UK finished and over cheats and money prevail, supporters lose

You have 4 US riders in the same heat, all with a chance to qualify - why was anyone surprised? Not cheating.

@DavidLee-no9uc

6 жыл бұрын

putting all the U S riders in the same heat is sure a good way to weed out the Americans huh? :(

@bradleyupdyke9492

6 жыл бұрын

Penhall had already advanced why would he take out other American riders or risk tearing up his equipment... I would have had fun or as we say over here put on a show with some show boating...

@deanwilliams4365

5 жыл бұрын

But its not a team sport, so team playing is cheating. as a result of these tactics and because the governing committee did not ban and or suspend such riders the sport disappeared within 5 years

@deanwilliams4365

5 жыл бұрын

riders were no PUT in the heat, they gained there place in the heat based on there previous race results/ points. by advancing lower point holding US riders with a results not honestly gained by skill and ability, advanced them into the next heat thus displacing other riders with earned points. so yes cheating

@deanwilliams4365

5 жыл бұрын

because if he had won that heat he would have won the title on points alone. by giving points to other US riders he displaced two UK riders and possibly a NZ rider from the final heat. the final would have been US, UK,UK UK. as a result of his actions the final was US, US, US, UK.

Playing the game !

It was an individual final,, Bruce should have pull out all the stops,, fuk the country,, it was individual, if it was best pairs, then you look after your teammates

Of course its cheating, riding from the tapes as if he has never ridden before. First time I have ever seen that.

speedway was bent well before this

@SuzyQ334

5 жыл бұрын

Speedway was never bent. The organisers weren't smart enough to "bend it". It was just a sport that thousands of people loved and when our teams lost, they lost. This brilliant sport died a death because the organisers didn't know how to keep it alive ... IMHO. x

@martynhepworthArchiveSpeedway

4 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/dHaW18GEdsqXds4.html

its a catch 22 , he made a choice good on him

@deanwilliams4365

5 жыл бұрын

no catch 22, just a pocketful of money, killed the sport !! and thats sad

only in speedway do you get a guy in a cheap blue suit on the start grid lol

He did not Cheat

??

BOOGALOO.....

King Kenny forever

@duconce

5 жыл бұрын

Roberts, you bet

Must be how he got CHIPS

Lets get this straight. He sacrificed a win so that two English riders could take first and second. A truly great English patriot.

Not fucking rocket science, simple to understand FFS. Oh wait, it was an English crowd, carry on....

No cheating, Brits and their stupid rules, that point system sucked, change it.... qualify for speed, take top 16, 4 races take winner of each then 1 race the winner of that race is the winner no BS.

No Cheating on Bruce's behalf!.. Seam's more like the Lymies are a little "Butthurt" that the Yankie's are Kicking Ass!...Greg Hancock must have gave them Heart Attacks! lol

Penhall was always a "Foul and dangerous rider".. (quote is from the ref after the Kenny Carter 'incident' at the1982 world final), I was EXPECTING to see this.... I think that this WAS a flouting of the rules... BUT the ref 'on the day' had the chance to 'pull' Penhall.. but he let it go. Stop whinging....... BTW R.I.P. Kenny Carter... (reborn as Tai Woffinden..?)

@nervo6321

5 жыл бұрын

Penhall foul and dangerous rider !!!! As if Carter wasn't!!!!!

@jamesdean2558

5 жыл бұрын

Bruce penhall was allways a class act ...he made a tough decision ...and it wasnt selfish by no means ..he is one of a kind and deserves all the respect the country can give ...

"I did it for the sake of speedway" BELLEND!

@jacksonirving4594

4 жыл бұрын

How very dare you.

At the end of the day, like him or hate him, what can be said is that a top class rider called Bruce Penhall was NOT a good example or spokesman for the sport of Speedway.

Loosing on porpoise is just loosing. Not cheating. Change the rules.

@deanwilliams4365

5 жыл бұрын

it is cheating until the rules are changed

@SuzyQ334

5 жыл бұрын

"Loosing on porpoise". Really? Doesn't your phone have a spell-checker?

Dave jessup probably one of the best riders and most unluckiest never too have won the World final.. Not a bad golfer either mind.

@nervo6321

5 жыл бұрын

Great rider but never professional enough.....did everything on the cheap.....

@SuzyQ334

4 жыл бұрын

I was a Wimbledon Dons fan back in the day ... and a rookie journalist. I interviewed Dave and Roger Johns for a story on speedway. Lovely blokes, both of them. x

@SuzyQ334

2 жыл бұрын

I think Dave Jessup was a really nice bloke. I was a Wimbledon Dons fans and DJ was a very ordinary rider. He was never going to win the World Final. Glad to hear he's good at golf.

Took all the brown land now so kids have Nothing today except walk the streets especially in City. The council sell ,sell, but didn't think of the Generation`s to come

Cheating my BOLLOCKS

we dont even have this shit in america

@martynhepworthArchiveSpeedway

4 жыл бұрын

Yes you do.....

@jasonjessup8078

3 жыл бұрын

Yes we do, that's why we have 2 American world speedway champions Greg Hancock and Bruce Penhall

Penhall was hated in England

CLICKBAIT title. Thumbs down, That is cheating !

@martynhepworthArchiveSpeedway

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 how can twenty minutes of Classic Speedway be Clickbait. Hilarious.

@deconteesawyer5758

2 жыл бұрын

@@martynhepworthArchiveSpeedway Seems your little series of cartoon drawings reflect your education on what a Title entails.

@martynhepworthArchiveSpeedway

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 obviously a Penhall fan 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@deconteesawyer5758

2 жыл бұрын

@@martynhepworthArchiveSpeedway Time for your nap, and a change of nappies.

@martynhepworthArchiveSpeedway

2 жыл бұрын

@@deconteesawyer5758 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 everyone falls asleep reading your immature comments, I'll have that nap now 🤣💇🤣💇🤣💇

cheating yank

@fivecitydirttracker4776

4 жыл бұрын

Lmao.......right....cheater......"fuck no team player!"

this sport has always been bent like all others including british footie

this is boring as nascar

@kevinjuden1239

6 жыл бұрын

Like to see you try it.

@hammered0184

6 жыл бұрын

Try Russian Roulette.