They better build a turtle tank

@Kevin-hx2ky

14 күн бұрын

Prolly too damaging for their marketing team. Can't really see the curves of the tank if it's under a shed. Well, until they make a proprietary version that solves all the problems the shed introduces

@davidyoung5830

14 күн бұрын

Except of ccourse they are still vulnerable to mines and once your Tank/AFV is immobile its a dead duck!

@P3RF3CTD3ATH

13 күн бұрын

@@davidyoung5830 turtle tanks aren't vulnerable to mines. They're built to clear mines.

@jooseppib1082

12 күн бұрын

​@@P3RF3CTD3ATHthey are vulnerable to practically every thing because they have zero situational awareness

The issue is, nobody can move large armored formations anymore. The moment there is such a target, the entire area is blanketed with ordinance delivered mines, then the slowed or immobilized assets are pummeled with pinpoint artillery, and then swarmed with drones. It used to take a very unlucky artillery strike to take down even an immobilized AFV. Today, the crew is lucky if it has time to bail out and get away before the AFV is destroyed, and escape becomes impossible because of the saturation of shells around them.

@leckerbambi1019

15 күн бұрын

yup.. air fights and small battle groops and arty is the way

@simonseis744

15 күн бұрын

Source: KZread videos and FPS lobbies.

@paulloudbbk

15 күн бұрын

Depends on the electronic warfare capability.

@willberry6434

14 күн бұрын

depends on air superiority. Which NATO will have

@Tonius126

14 күн бұрын

Thats why air superiority is paramount.

60 year old 432s. And im not convinced Ajax will be any better protected from drones.

hahahaha, yeah, to hide they are staying in their little island.

@tommurphy7611

12 күн бұрын

LONDONISTAN is fukd anyway

I wonder how long could this Brit would last a week or a month?

How can they call it an army with only 70 000 soldiers and about 10 working tanks.

@jay-124

10 күн бұрын

영국군은 한국군의 10분의 1 수준입니다...한국군은 전 유럽군대와 맞먹을 장비와 훈련된 군대를 가지고 있지요....현재 한국은 유럽을 무장시키고 있습니다...평화의 꿈에 취한 유럽인들을...

@iansun42

8 күн бұрын

@@jay-124 lol cope

This is all well and good, but ideally now needs to be scaled up tp 10's of thousands of men asap!! The British Army is at disgracefully low numbers.

@ddontyy

15 күн бұрын

People have wisen up. Old generation call this new one ''soft''. There's nothing soft about being intellectually aware that your life is off little value to men in suits at the top who create these wars because of ego if you truly think about it, It's 2024, it's not the Roman Empire era anymore where land was an actual strategic benefit... The enemy today is your own people in most cases today. Good luck convincing me risking dying for feminists, not gonna happen bud, even with forced conscription. Grafting for 18 hours a day the past 3 years to stay afloat, yet I have to fight and die for that? HAHAHAHA

@johnslugger

15 күн бұрын

*The British economy worse than is was in the 1930's*

@vwtransportersandmotorcycl3729

15 күн бұрын

@@johnsluggeralways money for illegals though. Maybe they should be enlisted in our army. They might even then change their mind about coming here

@ddontyy

15 күн бұрын

Good luck with that. Nobody wants to die for no reason outside of Ego

@YeetyDelety

15 күн бұрын

@@ddontyy I'd give my life to protect innocent people.

a fraction of NATO's firepower, and literally all of britains working challenger 2s

@teddypicker8799

13 күн бұрын

Nah UK ordered 447 Challenger 2s and they don't export apart from 14 to Ukraine. Western tanks are designed to save the crews lives so they need spares

@teddypicker8799

13 күн бұрын

Apparently they are stored in NATO countries like Luxembourg and Holland for quick deployment

@kevinbaboolal4225

13 күн бұрын

@@teddypicker8799 is that why the chally 2s in ukraine pop their turrets?

@basedglennuk

13 күн бұрын

NATO 🌈

@Tim9999999991

13 күн бұрын

@@teddypicker8799 450 is the total ever built, only around 200 in active service, even smaller number than that actually able to deploy instantly.

Drones are a new threat to be taken very seriously. What are the answers?

@1337billybob

15 күн бұрын

Yeah I was expecting cope cages or something visually obvious. There isn’t anything that looks like newer electronic counter measures either on the armor.

@LeeTillbury

15 күн бұрын

Teeny- tiny SAMs?

@alanmcmillan6969

15 күн бұрын

Or a drone bodyguard?

@j.burgess4459

15 күн бұрын

@@alanmcmillan6969 Interceptor drones?

@eternalsleeping

15 күн бұрын

EW and Trophy APS systems.

Throughout history, N.A.T.O has been standing for "No Action Talk Only". Which is actually good.

Nice how vehicles are parked close to each other

@slwide7507

13 күн бұрын

British like to do things in style!

@kwcbomb6969

12 күн бұрын

NATO literally just saying "DO IT, WE WANT YOU TO."

@SAMOYLOVP87

12 күн бұрын

@@slwide7507 right? 1 drone = tripple kill haha

@CharlieBarkinTheDog

12 күн бұрын

Well Russia isn't sending anything into Poland right now so not much threat.

@Mitchell-mo9up

12 күн бұрын

Well noticed did you learn that on your last tour. Perhaps you should go into some advisory role with all your obvious combat knowledge.

The British Army should just buy up all the toy quadcopters on sale on the Gadget Store and start practicing the same fpv tactics Russia is using. Very quickly you will run out of tanks.

@michaeldawson6309

12 күн бұрын

And aircraft. Also airfields :-) Hypersonic missiles 70 miles in 40 sec ! Try hide from that fools.

@alexscharf3244

11 күн бұрын

I have a friedn in the brish army, and I can promise you they have many drone teams that work with many types of advanced drones. Secondly, ukraine is using a tiny amount of tanks compared to what NATO has, and Russia hasn't managed to take them out. So I'm not sure why you think Russia would somehow do better against a far more adanved army than what they are failing against right now

@olivere5497

10 күн бұрын

@@alexscharf3244 unless you can rig up a massive robotic kevlar umbrella for all of your armour (not a bad idea in my opinion) cheap drones are gonna walk all over anything expensive on the frontline.

@CH-tp4wz

9 күн бұрын

Fools lol Russia can't even take Ukraine.... Who's the fool (Russia) don't start what you can't finish.

@nic.h

9 күн бұрын

@@olivere5497 iron fist active protection systems on the latest Bradley variants in theory can be used against drones as well.

Everyone's got a plan until they get the first punch.

@RalphBrooker-gn9iv

11 күн бұрын

Which is why ‘Actions On’ is the most important part of operational orders at what ever level.

@AntoineWilliams7118

11 күн бұрын

Incorrect

@AntoineWilliams7118

11 күн бұрын

But good try. The real quote is: “Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the face by a migrant”

@Th3Mavr1ck

11 күн бұрын

@@AntoineWilliams7118 they are coming, hide your wamen

@user-qm8sc1jr9u

9 күн бұрын

like russia hahah losers cant even beat Ukraine

British Armed Forces caught with their pants down after a decade of cuts.👏🏼

@tommurphy7611

12 күн бұрын

Londonistan is FUKD anyway.

@Lordnumptynous

11 күн бұрын

Yawn..we've woken up now so play another tune.

@BFP8447

10 күн бұрын

I dont see any drone during the exercise😃

@davedixon2068

9 күн бұрын

try 7 decades of cuts and you are closer

What is old is new again. Nearly half of my 35 years in the army was spent on Cold War preparation including service in Germany during the 80s. It's almost laughable watching this new generation trying to come to grips with near peer, armour heavy combat. Scrambling to relearn lessons that were second nature to us. Knowledge that faded in the mad rush to 'beat swords into ploughshares' and reap the 'peace dividend' of the early 90s.

@Hereford1642

14 күн бұрын

Nothing to do with that. Fact is that conventional training has nothing to do with modern war. And that is all.

@lib556

14 күн бұрын

@@Hereford1642 I've been retired for 6 years so I may be out of touch a bit. However, the way we trained in the 80s looks a lot like what is now going on. Air threat, camouflage, emcon security, clearing trench systems, preparing fighting positions, manoeuvering scores of armoured vehicles, tank/infantry cooperation built on mech combat teams and battle groups ...almost none of which we did in Afghanistan. Just before I retired I was a senior umpire on an exercise where, during the inevitable spirited discussions over who won what, you snotty platoon commanders would attempt to lecture me about near peer warfare vice what I might have done over the last dozen years. I had to take a minute to explain what the hell we were doing in Germany in the 80s. During one discussion a young regular Sgt (I was a reservist by this point) said, "you can't make me a casualty due to arty... I'm in a LAV." I told him that DPICM was part of the ammo start state. Based on the blank expression on his face, I had to go on and explain Excalibur etc to him. Never heard of it. Anyway, I have faith in our combat arms... despite all current cultural challenges. I wish them the best. That said, lots of lessons to be learned in what we did in the 80s.

@seanp9277

14 күн бұрын

@@lib556 Ukrainians haven't been all that impressed with NATO training. Many have said that if they had followed that training they would be dead.

@user-zt5sf3lc5t

14 күн бұрын

Absolutely spot on as I too are from that era spending many years in Artillery Regiments stationed in BAOR. A lot of what you said brought back memories of huge exercises in Germany and numerous Active Edge call outs on the IGB to defensive positions under radio silence. Our troops are small in number and whilst professional as always are not well versed in this sort of Warfare.

@user-kd3cz4zo9k

13 күн бұрын

@@lib556no it’s very different, AA is almost removed from the equation because hitting a drone is so difficult, drones also basically make camo useless if they use Thermals…. You can’t even compare the two anymore

Their normal procedure is to leap 200 feet into the air and scatter themselves over a large area

😂😂😂until you face the actual drone you will see how far you learned

@jovan1986srb

14 күн бұрын

they learned nothing. they haven't fought a serious battle since the WW2 like ukrainian army and russian army did.

@matiasd.c9949

14 күн бұрын

This are the same guys that trained the ukrainian battalion that got wiped out in months ROFL..

We were making fun of Russian tank being vulnerable to Kamikaze drones early in the war. The reality is after seeing how Leopard, Abrams, Challenger also be vulnerable to kamikaze drones and having had to include Cope Cages.

@chitraprasannaanbalagan5626

15 күн бұрын

Even Israeli mercava's are using cop cage armor!

@alexanderfenn4457

15 күн бұрын

Strange we all thought Western equipment wouldn't be just as susceptible - not that drones will make MBT's obsolete in combined-arms warfare, but the race should be on to find proper protection that isn't just welding some steel beams to the turret. Remains to be see what everyone comes up with.

@pluemas

14 күн бұрын

Cope cages block APS, hence why they aren't used on vehicles that have them.

@jooseppib1082

11 күн бұрын

Leo Abrams and challenger does not have cope cages because they don't do anything

Back to the 80’s for all these that remember Spearpoint et al!

@wayneholmes637

14 күн бұрын

And Iron Hammer, Reforger etc.

@TanksInSpace_

10 күн бұрын

Yeah, lots of exercises back in the day, plowing through the fields, sleeping in a hay barn, getting hit by a A10 (according to the referee.🥺 ) ...But now we moved 800 kilometers closer to Moscow.

Army should buy the 🇩🇪 Skynex air defence system as an urgent operational requirement, it’s ready to go and essential if our expensive armour is to survive

yall are underestimating gamers eye sight

Unless you can build a tracked C-RAM/SPAAG weapon system on an armoured vehicle chassis and attach them to tank troops and Armoured infantry platoons to maintain the airspace is clear and stop drones kamikaze attacks or co-ordinating artillery fire you're going to have a rough time, but don't worry I'll fully expect it to be an urgent operational requirement about 2 years into conflict after trying the "old-new" way for the Infantry Corps and Royal Tank Squadron if instant sunshine isn't used.

@alexscharf3244

11 күн бұрын

But Russia is failing against Ukraine, how could they compete with the UK?

@BFP8447

10 күн бұрын

@@alexscharf3244 Yes. The Russians are retreating westward.

i really hope the uk is learning from the ukraine war and over coming the problems. dont just say you are.

@readtherealanthonyfaucibyr6444

15 күн бұрын

They're learning how to launder money just the the US is doing. Remember when a certain half of the US congress said $5 billion for a wall was wasteful? Now they say $200 billion to fund a border in another country is NOT wasteful.

@leehotspur9679

13 күн бұрын

NATO organisers will be scrutinising all that is going on in UA The SAS will be there analysing tactics ,EW and Logistics among other things

@Teadrinker-kg4ve

13 күн бұрын

Learning for what exactly

@tommurphy7611

12 күн бұрын

Londonistan and their LGBTQ army learning... notin

@DrewWithington

5 күн бұрын

Don't really think so. Peacetime officers get promoted by being good at fitting in and doing what they are told, not by by non-conformist and innovative.

The answer: air based electronic warfare for live controlled drones and cheap interceptors like APKWS for long range GPS guided drones like "Shahed" for example

@nic.h

8 күн бұрын

Although you did say APKWS for Shahed which is definitely a more reasonable cost comparison.

@David-zo7bg

8 күн бұрын

@@nic.h By the way, I think that modernized APKWS with IIR and target recognition will be great against cruise missiles also if based on air platform

@The_Crazy_Monkey75

Минут бұрын

I think a multi-layer defense is a great idea. The US army's Maneuver-Short Range Air Defense (DE M-SHORAD) Stryker vehicles with 50-Kilowatt laser would be a better first-line defense. They are already doing real-world testing in the Middle East but they are encountering issues like overheating. If they can fix that, it would be great. The enemy can deploy dozens of cheap drones at a time your missile storage is very limited.

they don't even have protection from drones on the third year of war. lol

물결강판으로 참호를 만들고 지붕까지 만든 것은 아주 좋은 드론방어책이다... 미군의 배럭 같은 것임...굿....

The REAL question should be: wtf is britain doing in ukraine????

@michaeldawson6309

12 күн бұрын

Money and corruption at an epic scale within Western politics.

>not a single fpv drone operator in the brigade >no cages on tanks like in russian or israel army >no jammer on tank or other transport I can imagine what the russian army would do with these clowns

@gefagnis

11 күн бұрын

yeah they'll show em just like they showed ukraine...lol

wow! British troops at last have learned a very valuable lesson gained in the war of Ukraine...! - hide.

@BFP8447

10 күн бұрын

That is the 1st step. 2nd step is to run.

Brings back memories of doing this stuff back in the 80s. Its a style of fighting that should not have been allowed to lapse. Unfortunately the military and strategy experts really aren't that expert. History is never wrong

Drones are the new weapon and they can take out the cheapest tank T-72 and expensive Challenger 2 just as easy

Does it still make sense for the US to maintain NATO if it takes its national interests into account? Countries in Western Europe like Germany pursue a mercantilist economic model. To do this, they are dependent on cheap energy from Russia and large export markets like China. The USA is currently "protecting" Germany with thousands of soldiers, a nuclear shield and hundreds of military bases. The resulting political influence that the USA has on Germany has not been able to prevent economic relations with China from becoming even more intense in recent weeks. In my opinion, Chancellor Scholz's trip to China in April was a clear sign that Germany is not prepared to cut its economic ties with China. And given this reality, the USA will sooner or later give up its military involvement in Europe.

Todays Uk army is a joke, . Without its usual UsA master, it would stand 1 month on a real front line war

@michaeldawson6309

12 күн бұрын

The USA conventionally maybe a month longer.

Has nato not watched a single ukraine video?? the tactics are 50 years behind.

@teddypicker8799

13 күн бұрын

It's the other way around, mate. NATO army would have air superiority negating the importance of drones

@averagebohemian5791

13 күн бұрын

@@teddypicker8799 How? How does air superiority have impact on thousands of drones with RPG heads strapped onto them? The quadcopters are the revolution because every battalion can afford it and they are so cheap

@jay-124

11 күн бұрын

드론이 전쟁을 결정한다

@teddypicker8799

10 күн бұрын

@averagebohemian5791 if you have to ask then there's no point answering

@nic.h

8 күн бұрын

@@averagebohemian5791 good luck getting more of those RPG rounds to the front when you run out because your logistics supply is getting constantly hammered.

Russia has only gotten more belligerent since NATO keeps expanding East.

That tactic will definately win wars....hiding.....Rule Brittania. lol

@nic.h

8 күн бұрын

Stealth is definitely an advantage in combat. Hard to hit things when you don't know where they are

God bless the “Ruperts” - meant in the most cheeky 1982 Falklands humour.

They work together as WWII. God save our soldiers🙏🏻

@Gigantus636

15 күн бұрын

Yes Germans and British work together against the bear, just like in ww2.

@marcopaganotto9125

15 күн бұрын

They're being set up to fight against a ww2 ally. Not good, not clever and who does it benefit, because it's definitely not the troops that's for sure.

@hanssteiner4315

15 күн бұрын

​@@Gigantus636haha Russia never did anything like installing regimes and police states in any Eastern Europe. Pfff laughable bot you are.

@karolyfulop75

15 күн бұрын

You and US are escalating in all conflicts, maybe karma come somedays

@readtherealanthonyfaucibyr6444

15 күн бұрын

Look up Tucker's interviews about how Christians are being treated in Ukraine.

Minsk accord

Personally I guess not easy to avoid the drone threat, given that the drones are being improved constantly from time to time as well as they are much cheaper and lighter as compared to conventional military vehicles...

영국군은 한국군의 10분의 1 수준입니다... 한반도에서 남북은 2백만에 달하는 대군이 휴전선에서 대치하고 있습니다... 한국군은 전 유럽군대와 맞먹을 장비와 훈련된 군대를 가지고 있지요.... 현재 한국은 유럽을 무장시키고 있습니다... 평화의 꿈에 취한 유럽인들을...

For any enemy…

If only we’d updated those Warriors.

@valerydx5682

15 күн бұрын

I saw today that 70 or 90 will be sent to Ukraine

@jonnoMoto

15 күн бұрын

we tried to with the WCSP. i was working on it for almost 8yrs. got so sick to death of the mismanagement of it by the MOD (along with another project i could see going nowhere) and the revolving door of desk officers trying to put their mark on it that i quit working in defence after a 12yr career in it. less than a year after i quit, they canned the project. collosal waste of time and money. glad to see the back of it.

@fludblud

14 күн бұрын

They just need to keep the Warriors in reserve instead of scrapping them, a real war might actually result in an upgrade programme that wont bankrupt us. Ukraine has demonstrated the value of long term storage of older equipment for mass mobilisation and replenishment, the British Army's habit of instantly destroying any piece of equipment the moment it goes out of service leaves us chronically unable to absorb any significant casualties leaving us with nothing to fall back on. Hell we only ever made 350k SA80s, thats less than the number of conscripts Russia mobilized in October 2022 alone and Britain no longer has a small arms factory that can produce any more. We have no SLRs left either because the MoD destroyed all the stocks so what are our reservists going to do if it all kicks off? throw rocks?

@matiasd.c9949

14 күн бұрын

This are the same guys that trained the ukrainian battalion that got wiped out in months ROFL 😂😁😂

@TrKz_m

14 күн бұрын

@@matiasd.c9949 u ok mate u seem kind of upset over something, did the royal marine instructors personally kick u out the army or something lmao ? you've replied to multiple random people with the exact thing and they aren't even copy and pasted messages as they use different emojis and punctuation each time, your clearly bothered by something if your willing to waste your time repeatedly typing the same thing over and over again. However no offence I think your time would be better spent somewhere else like Facebook, I feel as though in a KZread comment section people are just going to laugh at you here.

They say drones, I see concentration. How is it?

@davedixon2068

11 күн бұрын

the formation shown isnt a wartime formation its peacetime on an exercise quite possibly at the end of the exercise

British infantry are the best but Warrior IFV isn’t ready to face auto cannons. Coming from a former Warrior crewman, I’d rather be on foot.

@whylie74

15 күн бұрын

and AJAX just isn't ready.

@azovac

15 күн бұрын

Ill grant you that warriors are one of the more outdated IFV's when it comes to the major NATO countries. But arent they still on par with something like a BMP2M?

@mortalz9940

15 күн бұрын

Did you lot every change all your warriors to the CTAS varient?

@Hereford1642

14 күн бұрын

Serious question. What do you think would actually protect you on the Ukraine Russia battlefield.

@SnakePliskin762

14 күн бұрын

​@@Hereford1642 airpower and lots of it.

what's this, instructors who are not having actual real combat experience ? at this point, UA troops are way more experienced than any NATO troops.

interesting how they aren't including anti drone tech on these tanks

One problem with where they are practicing, very few of the drone attacks accured in forested areas.

@michaeldawson6309

12 күн бұрын

Yep as soon as they come out of the woods there done

We have no counter to drones on the level they're being used in Ukraine

@RandomUserOnTheInterWebs

15 күн бұрын

Not true at all.

@pluemas

15 күн бұрын

There is a fairly solid counter drone strategy that has been developed, in part thanks to the effort and experience of our Ukrainian allies, that is well established now. Drones have been a thing for a long while.

@PayasoIngles

15 күн бұрын

What strategy? there is none, I am not being negative but we have no systems like Sky Ranger. Warrior, Challenger, Boxer and Ajax have no APS system that can counter drones atm we would lose people and vehicles with hardly any back up vehicles in reserve. Need to switch spending to 5 or 6% and sort it out.

@Tripl3blue

15 күн бұрын

@@pluemas Oh yeah - what strategy? I see the Russians have started building massive metal sheds around the outside of their tanks lol

@pluemas

15 күн бұрын

@@Tripl3blue that's because the Russians don't know what they're doing and haven't been a modern fighting force since the 90s. APS and other systems are incredibly effective at dealing with these threats. Theres a multilayered strategy entirely around it.

The problem is the tank being so thin on the top of tanks. enough explosive mass and there’s a big hole in the top. I think if they add cope cages and ERA on the top face (looking down from top down view) of the tank you’d have a better chance

In the past, tanks move with armoured infantry to counter troops with bazookas.. I feel now tanks need to move with Short range Anti Air cover, for every 4 tanks there has to be a mobile anti air to constantly detect drones and counter it..

I hope NATO is training with an overmatch ability, as he talks he doesn’t leave me with that impression

Why are you preparing for war against drones?? Meaning you're preparing against Russia

@davedixon2068

11 күн бұрын

dont be dense everyman and his dog will be using drones in large numbers from now on

@nic.h

8 күн бұрын

What you think everyone should ignore Russia's behaviour and threats over the last few years

The Bulldog will outlive us all.

They are training to hide themselves - like the Challenger tanks !!!

@Sunscreen1973

15 күн бұрын

You never see the one that kills you..

@user-kh3nz9lb2k

14 күн бұрын

@@Sunscreen1973 cuz it sunk in the mud?

@Sunscreen1973

14 күн бұрын

@user-kh3nz9lb2k not much mud in the video mate ;)

@Sunscreen1973

14 күн бұрын

@user-kh3nz9lb2k not much mud in the video mate ;)

@Sunscreen1973

14 күн бұрын

@@user-kh3nz9lb2k not much mud in the video mate ;)

I saw a video of a drone going in search to target the Turtle tank . It qas so weird to see a house move ..

British troops learn how to hide from kamikaze drone threat In other words? 'We have not got a clue how to reasonably stop these things yet.' ☮

@Observer-xc6fp

14 күн бұрын

Does anyone? Never seen such a ridiculous comment on a video before.

@Observer-xc6fp

12 күн бұрын

@@McRocket Ahhh so someone with an opinion is a “troll” now are they. You are pathetic.

Mighty Challenger still hidden from frontline?😂😂

@souroshi

13 күн бұрын

?

@narakumar3175

13 күн бұрын

Mighty Game Changer 🤣🤣

@MultiVeeta

11 күн бұрын

Russians run away from Challenger deployment.

@user-ho7me9dd5y

10 күн бұрын

@@MultiVeeta 🤡😁

@MultiVeeta

10 күн бұрын

@@user-ho7me9dd5y facts hurt. With so few Challengers it is easy to avoid confrontation.

Is this an exercise or is this a deployment? I wouldn't want to bring them back from there too early.

Try moving quickly in the Ukranian territory lol

Drones are King these days

Have they learned nothing ? The equipment is to close together making it an easy target

@davedixon2068

11 күн бұрын

they arent in a war formation they are meeting up at the end of an exercise

@stevencharnock9271

10 күн бұрын

@@davedixon2068 The exercise is in a forward position and as part of it they should be practicing dispersal.

@davedixon2068

9 күн бұрын

@@stevencharnock9271 note the last words on my post "end of an exercise" they are meeting up for a debrief post exercise they have finished the "war" and are positioned for convenience

Putin really REALLY does not want to escalate things with NATO.

@danielcamacho1913

15 күн бұрын

All the more reason his troll factories are so vocal right now, trying to bamboozle the rest of the Europe into thinking Russia has a cause and a competent army.

@ConradAinger

15 күн бұрын

​@danielcamacho1913 Just remind me, what was the last large-scale successful action carried out by the American or British armies?

@friedchicken4326

15 күн бұрын

@@danielcamacho1913 you do realise that RU forces have occupied a region half the size of Poland?

@iambiggus

15 күн бұрын

@@ConradAinger Name the last large scale operation where they were beaten on the battlefield? Quitting under socio-political pressure is NOT the same thing as losing, or being defeated. Details and context my guy, details and context.

@skywillfindyou

15 күн бұрын

Hahahaha

Britian really has to acquire new material for their army. Those Warriors are ancient by modern standards, the Bulldogs even more so. I have immense respect and admiration for the British military, easily some of the best lads I've ever met, but it's pathetic to have them operate with such outdated equipment.

Loitering munitions are a major threat to armor these dats... You take a good year to train an MBT crew only for that highly trained crew to die within days on hit fronts like Kharkiv; is armor on the way out???

Send out certain frequencies to jam radio control: switch comms to either 1.) off like submarines do, or like back when they sent letters too each other. (you don't need a verbal motivation from HQ to shoot someone in the face) 2.) for emergency comms, go Fiber optic and have the Transceiver of the unit somehow deaf to jamming frequencies, and the HQ transceiver should be out of the EMP zone unless it's large. or you could boost comms frequency to really high, you'd think a drone would have limited battery, like 2200-7000 MAH, to keep it light and disposable, so it's transmission and receiving would be lower power so if they trace the comm field it's like 30 miles away instead of 30'. I'll expect my bucket list items fulfilled before 2050, thank you.

Still think they should have accepted the Iron Fist APS from the Black Night program for Challenger and added it with the development of Challenger 3 - a hard kill active protection system against HEAT and slower moving munitions would have been better and long term far more useful. The system in a LONG TERM basis would have saved loads of money for the tax payer and the government, by making the vehicles more survivable. it makes you ask the question, what is worse? spending the money on the iron fist system, and then the cost of one use of it, or spending another £4m-£9m on a new tank, not including trained crew to replace the one that isn't able to protect against HEAT warheads or low speed projectiles? because in the long run, the APS system would surely be better for both vehicle and crew. its just typical that the people who don't have to use the vehicles get to choose what the vehicles get based on cost cutting and having no idea what is good or not while not realizing that their "cost cutting" is basically saying "we value the money we save more than the life you lose".

@mic4831

15 күн бұрын

The challenger 3 will be a mix of the BAe and Rhinematal prototypes, it has the new turret with the aps and all the other upgrades. Just look it up

@kaiotie1

15 күн бұрын

@@mic4831 yeah I have, they arnt going to use any APS systems due to funding, and there is 0 confirmation of blow-out pannels within the turret even with the new smoothbore gun because of cost cuts hel, there isnt even any evidence of them on the vehicle itself; it still fits the old challenger 2 ROMOR ERA package on the hull, so they will likely reuse that despite its obvious weaknesses and vulnerabilities to peer to peer adversaries. the only real change from challenger 2 to challenger 3 is better armour, potentially a new engine, new gun and new electronic equipment internally such as cameras and CITV improvements; not much else has changed.

@mic4831

15 күн бұрын

​@@kaiotie1thats 3 sources, first two are UK gov and the last is from RSBL group, the modifications are extensive, i dont know if it will have blowout pannels as they are vauge on the survivability improvements

@mic4831

15 күн бұрын

​@@kaiotie1to summerise: A new armour package and aps, new sensor package and digital infastructure; gen 2 thermals for both gunner and commander: new 1500hp engine; next gen hydro gas suspension; and a new turret with the 120mm smoothbore gun. There is more but look at the sources i linked

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"AI" will render electronic counter-measures useless.

@michaeldawson6309

12 күн бұрын

100% and when they swarm your done.

@ASpyNamedJames

12 күн бұрын

No it won't you . AI needs sensors to function same as everything else. 🙄

@BFP8447

10 күн бұрын

@@ASpyNamedJames Try jamming a camera from 1 km away.

@nic.h

8 күн бұрын

@@ASpyNamedJames EW systems doesn't typically impact sensors including cameras. They work by yelling loud enough that the drones signal can't be heard within the noise. So are essentially completely ineffective against a drone that doesn't need to transmit that signal

Think cold war not desert storm.

@michaeldawson6309

12 күн бұрын

Desert Storm was so one sided. This will be another level just ask the Ukrainians how they got on after 10 years training ! What fools we all are.

as effective as "Duck and Cover".

defend from drones? OK.... all you have to worry about now is the Yanks.

Literally no cage on the turret? Useless

Basically they are preparing to go into Ukraine to fight Russia

@michaeldawson6309

12 күн бұрын

Good luck on that one. The outcome will be a lot of body bags that the UK can't and won't accept. We moaned when 20 or so came back from Afghanistan what will they do when a Brigade gets destroyed ! which it will. Remember Russia has 10X more of everything. This is a fools errand.

You must know that the military army, like the football team, must always train and practice its work!

Wars go on for decades equipment gets blown up put out of action

Absolutely ridiculous destroying the Environment.. !

@TanksInSpace_

10 күн бұрын

It's the opposite, military training areas are among the most thriving wildlife regions in Europe. They are vast and seldom disturbed, often serving as the last sanctuary for endangered species.

@nic.h

8 күн бұрын

The device that you posted this message from contributed to destroying the environment. Ridiculous that you are using it. /s

Other than Poland where are all the EU troops and armour?

you can’t hide you just get lucky

You can have the best tanks and armoured vehicles in the world but as we've seen their all vulnerable to drone attack. It's looking more and more likely that war with Russia is unavoidable sadly it seems as though neither side learned anything from the first two World Wars even with such similarities. This coming war I fear will be far far worse for all mankind if the madness ensues

and where does the British military have experience in combating drones? That he can teach and pass on experience? Where is he in the last 20 years of war that he knows how it goes?

@michaeldawson6309

12 күн бұрын

Painting Rainbows on tanks and wearing skirts I guess to fit in with the new crowd of sissys.

We need energy shields!

@michaeldawson6309

12 күн бұрын

We need to keep our nose out of things that do not concern us. Trade with Russia don't fight it as there is only one outcome a defeat. GO ask a German.

@rgen28

12 күн бұрын

Hahahah. I take shields instead.

@nic.h

8 күн бұрын

@@michaeldawson6309 no thanks, zero desire to trade with countries acting like common criminals.

British tanks are to heavy

All these army videos... Prince William in a Apache Helicopter....something tells me we are not far off WW3

@kkmardigrce

13 күн бұрын

And all this because NATO would never stop expanding otherwise. Ah well, I guess we're too stupid a species to be alive.

@michaeldawson6309

12 күн бұрын

Prince Billy will be just another target. I bet the Royal fools will be no where to be seen on the Russian front ! They appear with advanced weapons to chase men in sandals ! Cowards.

you can not hide from X-Wings

Forces News, is there a reason we don't see any tunneling machinery here on this test or in use in Ukraine? Small tunnel borers could dig 50m to 100m a day. Within a few weeks you can move a lot of guys behind the enemy line, attack front and back, cut off their resupply. And you have the tunnels for protection from drones. House builders use conveyer belts for moving the muck from the ground. There are small enough diggers and borers, that pass the much behind them, onto conveyor belts. Hand diggers can also throw muck onto the belts. The muck could be thrown/stacked around areas/machinery you want to protect. We seen the corrugated sheets. Throw the muck against the exposed side of those sheets and it's good protection. Those drones must be weak to mud. If they can't see, they can't hit, right? So what about a water squirter with dirty/sticky fluid? Or if it's powerful enough or will knock out the drone. Even using the muck from the digging into a compressed pipe and aimed at incoming drones, surely that would have an effect like shrapnel. No ammunition necessary, just compressed air and dirt. Could easily have multiple tubes pre filled with compressed dirt and air, fixed around the vehicle. Or on an aiming system. Very very cheap. Reusable. Refillable. Can also be taken off the vehicle and used to protect troop areas as a form of trip wire defence. They can run out of ammo. They won't run out of dirt.

@nic.h

8 күн бұрын

Smoke is well developed and likely better at blocking vision than mud.

ECM

@BFP8447

10 күн бұрын

Russians are testing drones rquipped with fibre optic cable.

I can't see any protections against drones on those machines🤓🤓🤓🤓

Makes a drone any xbox player can fly... You win simple.

about the mentioned Afghanistan. THEN YOU HAVE TO PAY REPARATIONS for the occupation

At least nato is now getting it together no more sitting ducks all day n a row then 😂

¿Qué les pueden enseñar a los piratas?

So let’s tell the whole world how to do this???????

"russia bad wahh"

All this Nato commanders is talk talk talk. Hilarious soldiers on the run. 🤣

Making turtle shell

This is impossible I guess.

Hide from them? The Ukraine war has taught us from the drone vids, you can't hide from them! Tanks needs anti-drone technology, and the technology is there...

Ukraine is like a warning of what happens when you don't have air supremacy. In Day 1 of the Air Campaign of Desert Storm, the US launched EF-111 radar jamming aircraft and long range Tomahawk Cruise Missiles from B-52s and hit air defense sites with a barrage of Hellfire missiles from Apache helicopters. They took out Iraqi radars, electronic warfare and command and control leaving the Iraqis blind before the Air Campaign turned to actual bombing of tanks and APCs. Ukraine simply doesn't have any of those assets. The Allies had hundreds of F-16s; Ukraine will soon get a small handful. Drones have changed warfare, but only if you don't have long range electronic jamming, cruise missiles and anti-radiation missiles in large numbers to overwhelm air defenses. NATO would never engage their forces on the ground without air supremacy; which they achieve Day 1.

@frankrenda2519

14 күн бұрын

why are you talking about the usa and it vassals beating a third world country why don't you try the same operation with russia you wouldn't have any superiority

@letsplaywar

14 күн бұрын

@@frankrenda2519 Are you Russian or pro-Russian? I don't want war with Russia but it seems like Russia must be defeated in war.

May be sounds like a joke,but why doesnt tanks hide in a really bad decoy of a tank ?.should be brilljant idea!. Or have a column of vehicles under camouflage band.and you only can distinguish very good the shapes of decoys under the camouflage,while the real ones you cant see the shape .should be very confusing for kamicace drones and other precision artilleri,