Liverpool, Lille, Shannon, Cork, Porto, Lisbon, Bilbao would be great destinations from Islip, Providence, and Hartford

@qaisrashid6496

2 жыл бұрын

Edinburgh also!

@malvinjnrn7784

2 жыл бұрын

A220-500 hopefully would be better that

@AviationJG

2 жыл бұрын

Yea providence would be awesome

@neilstockmal1012

2 жыл бұрын

Being back internal routes out of Hartford would be a strong option. I can see BDL-EDI performing well.

@champaignken

2 жыл бұрын

@@qaisrashid6496 9

The 220 looks good with the breeze livery

@PacificDark

2 жыл бұрын

It really does.

@lyte561

2 жыл бұрын

220 is reserved for bmw 220d to its a220

For all those saying the A220 is "too small" for T/A, it is all about three things 1) Price, 2) Price, and 3) Price. If Breeze can fill an A220-300 for the route, the trip costs will be substantially lower with regards to crew size, fuel, and landing fees, to name a few, vs. the legacies, which means the price of the ticket can be lower to attract both leisure and business travelers, especially from non-traditional/2nd-tier US airports.

@antonyh37

2 жыл бұрын

The real question is how much can you charge and still be profitable in an aircraft that holds a little over 100 people on a transatlantic route. There is a break even somewhere. I want to believe the a220 will demonstrate that. I cant imagine them being profitable on the return leg flying against the wind and having to be weight restricted pax wise to carry enough fuel to fight headwinds. I geuss where they could make a difference is in number of offerings a day but even that will get expensive with fees. Going to Hawaii from mainland from mainly west coast departure points, many narrow body aircraft that run that route face weight restrictions due to winds. They are forced to leave seats empty or leave valuable freight behind.

@Chrisp707-

2 жыл бұрын

@@antonyh37 considering the legroom as well

@thomasburke7995

2 жыл бұрын

Valid points.. the biggest issue is going to be airports. Everyone wants T/A.. but if the route's terminates at airports that are A 3 hours surface transport from the main destination.. people wont take the flight..

@williamerazo3921

2 жыл бұрын

@@antonyh37 that’s the question. I don’t think aircraft can maintain a regular schedule TA cause they will lose money

@biscuit4235

2 жыл бұрын

In a way it's still too small

Serving under utilized airports is good business. Southwest earlier on used to do this, and Allegiant seems to be successful doing it. Breeze, however, has a much better product than many other airlines. It is so good, I wonder how they will make money.

@aeroman5239

2 жыл бұрын

With the A220's optimized airframe, wing, and engines, it will be saving Breeze substantial fuel costs vs the legacies, so the T/A route structure should work-out just fine for revenue.

@Dnttrip304

2 күн бұрын

Allegiant pulled out of our regional airport because of Breeze 😂

I would use this airline in a heartbeat anything to avoid the major airports which do nothing but provide congestion long lines and added cost to the passenger so I plan on supporting this airline big time

Imagine flying transatlantic a “regional” airliner, that would be wild

@shauny2285

2 жыл бұрын

Especially in Winter turbulance!

@sharp8748

2 жыл бұрын

kinda like jetBlue lol

@Chrisp707-

2 жыл бұрын

@@sharp8748 JetBlue isn’t regional

@midlifecrisis7888

2 жыл бұрын

No thanks.

@mirzaahmed6589

2 жыл бұрын

A220 isn't a regional airliner.

Insane. In the span of a few decades we went from very few narrow bodies crossing oceans, to small narrow bodies, and the potential for regionals.... What's next? Dash 8 Q400LR from Boston to Dublin?

@Milnoc

2 жыл бұрын

Not unless you put jet engines on that thing. 😁 The Q400 was designed primarily for short haul routes. On a two hour flight, the Q400 will only take about ten minutes longer to complete the trip as opposed to a jet ,and at much lesser operating costs.

I would say go for it BREEZE! Flying un-served routes is the way to go... and expanding across the Atlantic and South over the Caribbean are both great ideas!

Wow. We went 5 days without a story on Breeze. That must be a record for SF.

Breeze would be perfect for Buffalo, NY. They could definitely make an A220 transatlantic flight and the plane size is perfect for the market

@randocrypto1678

2 жыл бұрын

Aye I’m from Buffalo!

@aeroman5239

2 жыл бұрын

You would certainly get Canucks from Toronto & Hamilton to cross the border for those T/A flights!

@markvolpe2305

2 жыл бұрын

Either Buffalo or IAG Niagara Falls

@thomasburke7995

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry not enough passenger load to justify that.. Been to buffalo..

@youtok6028

2 жыл бұрын

@@thomasburke7995 ahh flying a220 ..... BUF should be just fine filling those planes. Also TONS of canadians flock over to flight out of BNIA.

Last time I checked, Edmonton, England, didn't have an airport! 😂

imagine if they did a flight from Manchester, US to Manchester, UK

Transatlantic A220? This Will be something fun!! Look forward to it

@timcongrove1305

2 жыл бұрын

So would the a220 to Hawaii

Well that was something. Btw, Happy New Year from Indonesia🇮🇩

Happy New Year!

I think anything Dave Neeleman does is gold and we should all invest.

Northern Italy and Southern France (i.e. Florence, Milan, and Orleans) would be a good market for Breeze in Europe.

@widget787

2 жыл бұрын

This is way too far for an A220 even with Aux Tanks if you want a decent payload and fly yearround reliably.

@FreddyScouser

2 жыл бұрын

Orleans is not southern France

With less seating capacity

@stephen_101

2 жыл бұрын

What a beast this little plane really is 💪

Shannon and perhaps a local airport like Kerry or Knock should advertise themselves as potential fuel stops on transatlantic flights. Easy access to things for tourists like the wild Atlantic way, whale & dolphin watching and we also get basking sharks around our shores in the summer. There's also the Skellig rocks where star wars scenes were filmed.

US to Tenerife. A great long thin route for the A220

Yes! Bring it on please..

Happy New Year

Brilliant

I think is is a good idea to serve 2nd / 3rd tier airports on both sides. There are plenty of suburbs of NY, and Boston that would be good choices for 2nd tier cities in the U.K. Or Paris. I like the idea of Miami to 2nd tier South American cities.

@exoressdelivers70

2 жыл бұрын

It wouldn't fly out of Miami but rather out of Opa-Locka which is an under utilized airport with commercial aircraft facilities about 75 miles away from Miami.

I would definitely fly Breeze on a transatlantic trip! With David Neeleman at the helm of the airline, you can expect amazing service!

@soccerguy2433

Жыл бұрын

talk is cheap

Avelo just tried to come into the airport here in Lexington KY & has already pulled out. Would love to see Breeze come in & offer flights to multiple different destinations!

Well... Anyways happy new year!

could also copy Icelandair’s model of stopovers at Keflavik

Yeah ! They should consider TF Green in RI to Shannon or Knock (AKA West Regional Airport) Ireland. Economy fares of €250 each way should generate full planes most of the time. Free parking at Knock would be a bonus. Unfortunately US immegration is not available there. Shannon is equiped for US Customs and Immigration but parking is expensive, other than that the airport is uncongested but missed out on getting a rail link when the Limerick to Galway line was upgraded, the Express bus service is also hit and miss. TF Green could benefit by making bus and train connections easier and less confusing.

Breeze is definitely looking at the point to point routes that could put a stick in the hub and spoke models of established legacy carriers. Liverpool and Belfast could be two fantastic markets if they want to do transatlantic flights to Britain.

@johniii8147

2 жыл бұрын

Given the markets the small point to point markets they serve in the US with no hub, they won't generate much traffic on such routes. That would be like 10-20 passengers per day. David is just trying to generate buzz for the airline

I am sure that Breeze will do quite well for a few years and then crash when over-expansion and maintenance costs strike home. I have seen this scenario play out many times before.

@ericwalker2434

2 жыл бұрын

This is Neelmans 6th airline... And he has had success with everyone. I'm sure he'll do fine

@adamp9348

2 жыл бұрын

@@ericwalker2434 Yup. Past performance doesn't necessarily equate to future success, but if there's someone I would NOT bet against... it's David Neeleman.

@JohnnyFuturePast

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe don’t use the word “crash” ! 🧐

@dgarrigan8199

2 жыл бұрын

I disagree. I have a Command Type Rating on the A220. The aircraft is a ‘Game Changer’. With Mr Neeleman’s proven track record, the Breeze Airways business model complemented by its A220 fleet will be admired and envied by many airlines. Breeze Airways will be an industry success 🌅

Bristol had Continental BRS-EWR 757 direct quite a few years ago hopefully Breeze start something similar again soon

Stateside I can see flights from SWF, PVD, ISP, BWI to some of the secondary airports in Europe.

Yes please!

I live near Islip. I REALLY hope something is decided

Breeze going intercontinental would be a game changer so small

brilliant idea but what would even be better would be if they did the flights from smaller London airports such as Luton, Southend and London city to smaller New York airports

Wow really

I'd love to see Breeze fly from Charlotte, NC.

@zacharythegod3281

Жыл бұрын

Probably won’t as that is a well serviced destination

I'd like to see their network include underserved Melbourne, Florida, and also Sarasota.

@waitingforanangel07

Жыл бұрын

They start flying from Vero Beach next month.

Burlington, VT. LOL. You can see in his eyes he knows the goals and the airports they want to target. A PVD to Great Britain flight would get very good support. Using the A220 with a very heavy first class/premium economy experience would be fantastic. I don't think everyone needs ultra-cheap flights to Europe or South America. What I think is a hugely untapped market is the premium economy demand. Much cheaper tickets than first class but with the comfort and service one needs for several hours in the air. On larger planes, I think it's harder to get the right mix. With this smaller, very economical plane, I think this idea is a slam dunk if implemented correctly...

Yeah I think briza in Europe would be a good idea of course the extra long-range fuel tanks might be also good idea so yeah I think it will be a very good idea if it coming to Europe

Another example off the rise off transatlantic narrowbody flights

Breeze can create whatever Transatlantic and transcontinental market they want with this plane within its 4,000 nautical mile range circle. Breeze's A220-300LR's will have operating economics and flight capabilities without peer. The big, state-of-the-art high-lift wings and huge amount of engine power are unique to the A220, allowing it to jump fully laden with long-haul fuel and payload from smaller airports with shorter runways. Breeze's routes will be protected since no one else will have the kind of plane to compete against it.

@widget787

2 жыл бұрын

4000nm is exactly the promised range of the A321LR, but in the real world the LR cant even fly the 3300nm from Hamburg to New York westbound in Winter without payload penalties. So I expect real world range of that A220LR to be similar to the A321LR.

@simonm1447

2 жыл бұрын

@@widget787 there is a new 321 carbon fiber wing in development - the current wing is at the limit with the 321 LR and XLR (means they have to reduce payload above a certain range), the new wing will be optimized for a higher range, in the way of the 757 which had 180 m2 wing instead of 120 like the 320 series or the 737 NG. With the new wing even further stretches would be possible.

@widget787

2 жыл бұрын

@@simonm1447 the XLR already offers more range, enough for NYC-HAM. A re-engined 757 without any other improvements would beat the range of the XLR handsdown. A rewinged A321 as well, of course.

@simonm1447

2 жыл бұрын

@@widget787 The XLR offers the full payload (23,5 t) up to 3k nmi - at 4k nmi it loses 5,5 metric tons of payload. I guess the new wing will be designed for the flights above 3k nmi, to avoid this loss of payload and ensure the aircraft can be fully sold in every scenario. The current XLR may have to sacrify additional cargo weight if the aircraft is fully sold.

@widget787

2 жыл бұрын

@@simonm1447 true, up the 3.200nm, which is most flights, the 757 carries more payload than the XLR, but above 3.200nm the payload decreases below the XLR. But the problem of the XLR against the 757 is: less space/real estate for payload.

Long-haul A220 flights from Breeze's New Orleans hub would be perfect for connections to Honolulu, Rio, & Sao Paulo for those smaller domestic markets like NW Arkansas, Tulsa, Charleston. It will also help bring other under served cities into the hub.

@arthurgearheard4701

2 жыл бұрын

Do you live in New Orleans? I'm originally from there, and I could never have imagined that there'd be non-stop service between Armstrong and XNA!

@MoneyC225

2 жыл бұрын

@@arthurgearheard4701 I live in BR, but always use MSY as my airport of choice. XNA has a handful of nonstop flights to popular markets. Having the biggest company in America HQ in your city has its benefits!

@arthurgearheard4701

2 жыл бұрын

XNA has non- stops to destinations such as New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, Denver, Orlando, and other destinations in addition to New Orleans. Baton Rouge Metro doesn't offer as many non-stop destinations, and the population of Baton Rouge is approximately the same as Northwest Arkansas which encompasses Washington and Benton Counties. Tiger fans can fly Breeze out of MSY non-stop to XNA to see their beloved team get clobbered by the Hogs next year in Fayetteville. It's wonderful that Breeze would choose Northwest Arkansas as one of their destinations to fly non-stop to XNA so that people that live in New Orleans can see the top attractions to the Ozarks such as Eureka Springs and Newton County which is the loveliest county in the state. I'd recommend that you make a trip up here and see what a hidden gem the Ozarks are.

Honestly a flight from Columbus, Ohio to Rabat, Morocco, Marrakech, Morocco, or Casablanca, Morocco would be a lifesaver

I hope they fly to the Caribbean since that is the one who interests us much.

I just wish Breeze flew to Tallahassee

For business travel, and for many European leisure travellers (who have "done" major USA tourist destinations many times in the past) flying into the major airports is very inconvenient. There is a market for people who just want quick access to a rental car (or family pick up) and be on the road, secondary and third airports in the regions do a perfect job for this.

A question is what is the preception of the US Mega carriers' need to compete against the Breeze if Mr. Neelamn is very optimistic for some the long-haul operation with A220ER?

This sounds like a mistake. Flying most of these routes will require a very high ETOPS rating. This is not just for the aircraft type but also for the operator, You can’t use a some landing strip in Greenland as your diversion airport without proving you are able to take care of your passengers once landed. To fly the A220 with a 210 Etops, which I think is a minimum for actually having enough range to get to Western Europe, they will not only need the aircraft to get certified but also themselves. They will have to invest in passenger recovery programs to deal with a crisis in the middle of nowhere. It will be easier since it’s a relatively small number of passenger but it shows of a greater problem. Transatlantic and transpacific routes are only served by legacy carriers because a big part of what makes a route successful is cargo, unfortunately an A220 with its small cargo compartment now significantly full with extra fuel tanks won’t have enough free space and maximum takeoff weight to make a route work with cargo. Any airline who flies transatlantic with small planes (small being B757 A320) almost always flies big ones too. I can’t see how you justify the cost of a recovery program for the Etops needed when you only fly tiny planes. Just doesn’t make sense for me. Maybe there’s something I’m missing.

Akron/Canton will be an excellent location for Breeze Airlines...

An A220 could be a bumpy ride no matter the cheaper air fare, but could do it for specific NA - European trips

The primary issue with trans-Atlantic travel for breeze right now is if ORF, Norfolk International, is their hub, it only has one dedicated International gate. It was used, for some time in the early 2000s for a single flight to Bermuda. I'd they schedule it and have noon and a late evening flight per day for four days, then it's possible, but it would be better to expand ORF to two International gates. If they are to fly “across the pond” they'll probably fly out of Newark, Portland International, or Hartford International. As they are closer to Europe, and in metro areas that would benefit for low cost, cross Atlantic travel.

They can fly into Liverpool airport or london Southend that would be a interesting route

Prestwick EGPK (Scotland) would be an ideal move. Links to Scotland’s busiest cities Glasgow and Edinburgh via train connected directly to the airport and direct bus links to all over Scotland. Robert Burns country, the land of haggis and William Wallace, neeps and tatties and mince. The airport is serviced mostly by Ryanair to European destinations at the moment. There is plenty of space for new airlines, especially transatlantic ones. The airport has more than ample conditions most of the time and very rarely suffers from fog. Come to Prestwick! It’s something that could help prevent the demise of the airport.

Edmonton England!! 😂

@AT-nq6cu

2 жыл бұрын

I caught that as well. The man is a CEO, a millionaire who doesn't know basic Geography. What an embarrassment.

@MarsastheCat

2 жыл бұрын

There’s an Edmonton in England… it’s just a town north of London though

@incandescentwithrage

2 жыл бұрын

@@MarsastheCat That's an area of London, and doesn't have an airport

With the announcement of an A220 crew base in Hartford , I’m assuming the “long haul” flights to West Coast USA and Europe would make sense out of BDL?? I would love to see Paris-Orly , France London-Stansted, England. Torino, Italy

they will have to keep the fare below $150 for transatlantic routes

All is possible as long is tested symultaneus in more routes where no body goes

I can see Breeze Airways A220-300's flying long haul which will need extended range fuel tanks to fly into London maybe London City,Shannon,Belfast etc.

Breeze would be perfect for Rome, New York, Oneida County Airport, aka...Griffiss International. Plenty of space and a long runway since is use to be an USAF base for B-52's, KC-135's & even the SR-71.

@phishbill

2 жыл бұрын

But probably not much as far as demographics/population/LCCs in SYR. ALB, etc. Also safe to say that neither the E-jets nor the A220s need as much runway as B-52s, KC-135s..even the SR-71..

@jamesbidwell8947

2 жыл бұрын

@@phishbill I was thinking more in the pricing of tickets. SYR & ALB are approx the same distance, amount of time away from Rome and both have very high fares. The catchment area of Rome would be expansive if you look at the 1 - 2 hr drive in any direction. There is/are no scheduled airline(s) into Rome currently. No competition & no congestion.

@phishbill

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamesbidwell8947 Commercial air service in RME is not absolutely impossible, but the odds are long at best. ALB has low-fare driving access to the south and east, SYR and ROC both have Frontier and Allegiant. Also consider that Breeze has yet to open or even plan service into an airport not already having active airline service. And Allegiant, Spirit, Frontier, etc. have never even given RME so much as an afterthought. Magic 8 Ball says.."Probably Not."

@jamesbidwell8947

2 жыл бұрын

@@phishbill One can hope. 🙂

It sounds doable from the US northeast to Portugal and southern part of Spain to start with with A220s. However, in the long run it is going to be more sustainable using 321 LR and 321 XLR for more comfort and reliability. As for me, I prefer flying on a widebody jet on any nonstop route of 5 hours or more.

"It's a good little airplane".

How is fuel usage per passenger in narrow body aircraft, 220 or 320 Neo, vs. wide body, 350 or 787?

Given their airports served, where could they end up going in Europe? Shannon is really the only place I can see realistically

Transatlantic flights from Westchester, Islip, Manchester NH, Burlington VT, Norfolk, Providence, Hartford and Huntsville would be cool maybe to London City Paris Orly and more. Breeze should focus on the closest airport to the city not just underserviced airports because it’s not convenient that way especially in Europe where Ryan Air dominates a lot of underserviced airports and it might be difficult for Breeze to serve those airports with Ryan Air having all the power

It wasn't long ago that the hub-and-spoke model was the future of the airline industry, with huge planes flying between the hubs. Now the 747 and A380 on on their way out and smaller single-aisle planes look like the future. A lot of non-towered and Class D airports with long wide runways and excellent IFR capabilities already host E-jet and A220 flights and are literally begging for more routes.

The likes of Birmingham in the UK would seem a good target market. Gatwick would be another in the UK. I am sure others can name plenty more across europe. Will it work is another matter.

Why are they running to go transatlantic. I think they should focus on the regional market first before going transatlantic.

really need to build up a national network before going international...

It would be great to have a direct flight from ORF to Europe!

@antonyh37

2 жыл бұрын

Good luck trying to convince the civil authority that these smaller domestic airports need full time customs agents to manage inbound Breeze international flights.

@bowler7922

2 жыл бұрын

@@antonyh37 Norfolk is already an international airport and is fully equipped for international flights. Secondly customs agents aren't just your local city workers. They are managed federally by The United States Department of Homeland Security. The Norfolk airport has a statement on their faq page which says: "In airport terms, the word “international” in the title of the airport means that the facility has the ability to handle international flights (US Customs, Immigration, etc.). Norfolk International Airport’s Gate A1 is designed for international flights and both US Customs and Immigration have offices onsite. Presently, the airlines serving Norfolk do not offer nonstop flights to international destinations. However, they do offer nonstop flights to their major U.S. hubs, many of which are international gateways, making one-stop international service possible for most itineraries." I do believe they may start offering transatlantic service from Norfolk.

@antonyh37

2 жыл бұрын

@@bowler7922 I use to live in Norfolk and travel in and out of ORF. Norfolk international is usually not that busy and it's mostly because of how expensive it is to fly in and out of the airport there. So if the domestics are expensive, one can only imagine what Breeze would have to charge for direct international flights in and out of there. The customs agents on hand at ORF are probably skeleton crew at best so I can imagine Breeze having to pick up extra costs associated with requiring more customs agents on hand. I just dont see the demand from Norfolk being as lucrative as you think.

@bowler7922

2 жыл бұрын

@@antonyh37 While it is true the airport is not super busy it is about as busy as similar airports throughout the country. Also the argument stating that the customs agents are a skeleton crew is no obstacle as the federal government operates it. Meaning that they will simply employ more agents as necessary. Also as someone who uses it as my home airport, the prices on flights are not as expensive as they used to be and they are actually quite reasonable. The airport is also in a prime location for transatlantic flights. Breeze also probably wouldn't charge as much as you think. This is because of the fact that they only operate out of 16 airports as well as Norfolk being one of their main focus cities. It would make no sense for Breeze airlines (Which is a budget airline by the way) to charge more than the conventional airlines for transatlantic flights.

There's an international airport in Edmonton?! Wow!.... 😄😄😄 I think he means Stansted or Luton.

Yes this planes can fly 8 hours+ but the sweetspot should be around half this flight times at 4 or 5 hours

Please add a route between Birmingham, AL and New Orleans, LA.

a220 is plane of future...will start connecting C/D cities with A/B global cities

Funny idea, they should order 2 A35Ks, and be like spicejet with 2 77Ws for long haul travel

Do you think they could fly to MHT?

MHT Please! Would fit into the network nicely..

@adamp9348

2 жыл бұрын

Yes!!!!

@nhaviation9363

2 жыл бұрын

MHT PLEASE!!!

@matthewwindisch9449

2 жыл бұрын

@@adamp9348 It’s a shame how much MHT is under used. The potential is huge.

@adamp9348

2 жыл бұрын

@@matthewwindisch9449 Agreed. Great opportunity for Breeze imo

This is where the A220 is going to be a potent weapon in airlines arsenal.

Burlington, VT. That sneaky Pete - he's going to try to grab market share on TATL routes from Air Canada. There's a population of 5 million within just over an hours drive, right across the border - I know, I've flown to Florida (as have many) from BTV. Things changed since covid and flights were cancelled from there, but once things return...

@Boffin55

2 жыл бұрын

Canadians fly from Burlington/Plattsburgh to US destinations, because it skips the high US Taxes on entering the country by air; which is why there are flights to holiday destinations (Florida) and likewise LAX/LAS/OAK/etc from BLI on the west coast. There's zero advantage in a Canadian using a US airport to fly internationally. Generally a lot cheaper to fly from London to Toronto than London to Detroit/Chicago/etc

@frankpinmtl

2 жыл бұрын

@@Boffin55 Tickets were always cheaper flying out of BTV. It was always easier to drive across and we stopped at Hannford or Price Chopper for groceries on the way home. Win-win all around.

Who is winning, Breeze or Avelo?

ORF? Seriously? Yes, Breeze has a base here. However, in 2007 Monarch wanted to launch once a week service from Norfolk to London. It was canceled before a flight flew, due to anemic ticket sales.

A220 on transatlantic? Really, this guy is blowing smoke. It takes a lot more than fuel to cross the Atlantic. Not only does the airline need to be qualified for ETOPS, so does the airplane. That means, more oxygen, longer fire suppression, life rafts, navigation equipment, HF radios and the list goes on. By the time all of that is added to the airplane how many passengers can get on? Don't forget, he still needs to make money.

@kazedcat

2 жыл бұрын

A220 is qualified for ETOPS180 and Airbus is undergoing certification for longer ETOPS. The airline itself could partner with other airlines to meet their ETOPS requirements. Oxygen is just extra baggage.

Maybe Prague?

If it can be “ Done “ ,, Mr. David Neeleman ,, has the Brains to accomplishing the Task, his “ Heart “ desires for the People My Son a Captain 👨‍✈️, agrees!!! Willing to fly the adventure ✈️

East Midlands Airport would be a good destination for Breeze, EMA is close to Leicester, Derby and Nottingham and not that far from Birmingham and Airport fees would probably be cheaper than Birmingham Airport

@Boffin55

2 жыл бұрын

BHX basically becomes yet another London Airport once HS2 is built.

@moekitsune

8 ай бұрын

​@@Boffin55Yeah about that

one thing is for sure. It shows that the narrow-body market is really booming. And fly always further. The wide-body segment is feeling more pressure after the pandemic. Many airlines can't afford to fly big planes anymore. For some more years. Will the B777X be a "niche market" plane? Like the A380? EMIRATES and QATAR Airways are full of hope for a new start of mass flights through their hubs with big planes. I am not so optimistic. At least not before 2026 or even 2027. Even before the pandemic that trend was there. Both Gulf airlines don't intend to order the popular long-haul A321XLR....just a coincidence???

Rotterdam, Lelystad, Maastricht, Groningen in NL

A suggestion for Mr Neeleman: Washington to Brussels. Well within reach of an A220LR. Linking the capital of Europe to the capital of the US on a daily basis! Brussels is not only the capital of Europe, but also the headquarters of Nato next to plenty of European headquarters of US based multinationals. Connections to all major cities in Europe are already available. There are even high speed trains linking Brussels to Paris, London, Amsterdam and Cologne, each reachable within 2 hours. Breeze could even use Brussels as a base to conquer Europe. Brussels Airlines is hardly a competitor (as a subsidiary of Lufthansa, it is used to get rid of their old planes). If Brussels Intl airport is too big/expensive for Breeze, there is an alternative: from Brussels South, Ryanair already provides a connection to many airports in Europe. Those that do not exist yet (due to too low traffic for a 200 seat Ryanair) could be serviced later on by Breeze.

@GUITARTIME2024

2 жыл бұрын

United does Washington to Brussels. My wife is Flemish Belgian.

@HugoAelbrecht

2 жыл бұрын

@@GUITARTIME2024 Yes but only on Mondays in a B787 and extremely expensive. It should be easy to fill an A220 on a daily basis at reasonable prices Brussels being way more central to Europe, yet close enough to the US east coast, it should have been the major hub for US companies from the beginning, instead of London. However, that would have required a real entrepreneur like Mr Neeleman. In the early days of aviation, Brussels Airlines was called Sabena, which quickly became the acronym for “Such A Bloody Experience Never Again” Since it was state owned, it lacked real vision and was protected by the government. These days are gone. Hence a new opportunity for Breeze!

@GUITARTIME2024

2 жыл бұрын

@@HugoAelbrecht I want nothing to do with a singie-aisle plane for transatlantic. Arriving jetlagged in Brussels is depressing enough. Lol

@zacharythegod3281

Жыл бұрын

@@HugoAelbrecht Breeze will never serve Washington

i think smart move would be flying to asian regions they could make a stop over at anchorage .

I want breeze to fly to LAX

So first JetBlue and now breeze

I think so because most people what to fly to like other cities like CDG or Madrid so maybe not that successful.But Maybe If Airbus has a A220-300LR So maybe Breeze air can buy that aircraft so It may fly to like the cities that most americans fly to

Fly to Canada, I'm sure there are some underserved US markets that don't have Canadian flights at the moment... seriously.

This could enable some very interesting routes. But the range is pretty limited to JFK/BOS - UK/Ireland, parts of France, Portugal and the northwesternmost Scandinavia.

@hepphepps8356

2 жыл бұрын

Northwesternmost scandinavia? All of Norway, Oslo, Gothenburg, Malmö and Copenhagen. More like almost all of scandinavia. Benelux, Hamburg, Ruhr, most of france, most of spain and portugal.

@frankpinmtl

2 жыл бұрын

The new ones now have 3600NM/6,667KM range.

@widget787

2 жыл бұрын

@@hepphepps8356 I am talking about real world range, not brochure range. The 6100km from HAM to NYC are too long even for the A321LR to be operated yearround.

There are cities that are located across the ocean from each other, and there are no direct flights between them because there are not enough passengers. A HUGE number of such cities. About 99% of across the ocean flights are operated by wide-body aircrafts, such as the A350 or Boeing 777, respectively, they require a large number of passengers, but not every route has that many passengers. Which airline will operate the flight on the A350, for example, if only 100 passengers use it? This is not income, but only spending. But the same flight on a321Neo aircraft or a220 and others, this is a completely different matter!

Anything out of Columbus?

London city and Bristol then

I don't wanna go long haul on a narrow narrowbody A220.