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@MagnusGalactusOG

3 ай бұрын

Can you talk about how blessed the U.S. is with Mexican immigrants that just want to work?

@joshuataylor3550

3 ай бұрын

Other people did it too isn't really a logical defence.

@grampydeathblade2217

3 ай бұрын

Blessed that the criminals released from Venezuela want to start working hard to rebuild their criminal organization in the US? Ah I understand now, you were being sarcastic.@@MagnusGalactusOG

If I have a British ancestor who was a sailor and captured by Barbary pirates and held as a Galley slave for years until a ransom was paid - do we get reparations?

@henkvandenbergh1301

3 ай бұрын

Will you vote for Pedo Joe? If not, no money. If yes, you'll get a 'promise' every election.

@LMWORLDWIDE

3 ай бұрын

In the 1620s and 1640s, the coasts of Cornwall and Devon in England, as well as Southern Ireland, were subjected to slave raids by barbary corsairs, who raided the coasts after having attacked ships outside of the coasts. Women were particularly prioritised as captives by the corsairs. The history NOT TAUGHT IN BRITISH SCHOOLS TODAY!!!!

@bobosmith8012

3 ай бұрын

I am a middle aged white man living in New Zealand, and I can PROVE that members of my family, were, in fact, Enslaved. And people will be surpised when they find out just how far back in my family history I have to go to find Slaves in my family tree. 1 generation. That's it. My Father was taken from his home country, by force, and forced to work in another country in dangerous conditions. He lost family members as a result.

@grannyannie2948

3 ай бұрын

As late as the 1850s there are accounts of British women being sold in Algiers. Just curious, do these reparations include convicts sent to Australia as slave labour?

@grannyannie2948

3 ай бұрын

@@bobosmith8012 Who enslaved him, and from where? I've heard of this happening to Pacific islanders in Australia, but longer ago.

No matter how much you might give them, they will come back and demand more. Give them absolutely nothing.

@epitrix

3 ай бұрын

Who's "them"? Watch yourself, pal.

@davidroux7987

3 ай бұрын

Just kick them out, back to Africa

@davecarson3D

3 ай бұрын

@@epitrixrace grifters

@mjones4083

3 ай бұрын

@@davecarson3D Yes .

@michaelsapienza8749

3 ай бұрын

@@epitrix likewise, you watch yourself.

In1930s Ethiopia wanted to be a member of the League of Nation. But it had a problem - 2 million slaves.

@annegreengables6367

3 ай бұрын

Ditto for Saudi Arabia in 1961.

@WaaDoku

3 ай бұрын

Just looked this up.... holy fokk. Slavery didn't officially end until 1942???? And the Italians who were the only Western nation to ever occupy Ethiopia were the first ones to abolish slavery??? HOW IS THIS NOT TAUGHT IN HISTORY LESSONS!??!? The only thing I've ever learned and heard about was how shit and evil Italy was for invading Ethiopia. There's always two sides of the coin, man... History is so fascinating.

@gc-vz4ib

3 ай бұрын

@@WaaDokuOfficially only....maybe. There are about 30 million slaves worldwide today.

@WaaDoku

3 ай бұрын

@@gc-vz4ib Yeah.. Trafficking is also included in that number I think and some serfdom-like environments. I don't know the number nor the modernized definition of "slavery".

@DMSProduktions

3 ай бұрын

@@WaaDoku India:Are we a joke to you?

Maybe the CofE could better spend their considerable funds on trying to free the 50 million slaves in the world today?

@uppityglivestockian

3 ай бұрын

@radicalcartoons, we have more slaves on earth than ever before, for several reasons: there are more people as a whole, certain countries/societies do not see anything wrong with slavery even though the UN and every nation on paper has ruled it illegal, and we've softened how we refer to it -- now we call it human trafficking. Whatever "CofE" is, I guarantee you, it does not have anywhere near the "considerable funds" you think it does to "free" 50 million slaves. So long as crime is tolerated on earth, slavery will have a market. So let's stop tolerating crime, for a fckng change. Have a nice day. Paz.

@TheWarforged

3 ай бұрын

OR better yet lets make islam stop powering slavery, hinduism as well for that matter. After all I am sure you do not want white saviors to do for the black and the brown what the black and the brown should be doing for themselves right?

@amandamann2946

3 ай бұрын

Couldn't agree more.

@mathudeano145

3 ай бұрын

@@uppityglivestockian’CofE’ is The Church of England, the head of the Anglican denomination of Christianity that claims somewhere between 85-110million followers globally. I think the point was if CofE can raise £1Billion for reparations they could instead raise £1Billion for projects combatting slavery currently happening. They can’t rescue all 50million but £1Billion and their influence could definitely save some people from slavery.

@jon123xyz

3 ай бұрын

That requires getting messy actually doing hard work. A regressive approach of oaying penance is easy and it's not rhe Archbishop money after all.

The Islamic Ottoman Empire 1299 - 1924 . never implemented a ban on slavery . Far more Europeans where taken into slavery than ever crossed the Atlantic , but nobody talks about this ! ........

@mechengineer4life

3 ай бұрын

I say that all the time. They were dissolved still not having banned it. And they captured Christian boys and castrated them and made them their elite shock troops

@rubynibs

3 ай бұрын

Write the story. Why wait for someone else to do it?

@grannyannie2948

3 ай бұрын

As late as the 1850s I have read of British women kidnapped by Barbary pirates and sold in markets in Algiers

@honisoitquimalypense1316

3 ай бұрын

Stories have been written and youtube videos have been done but they get taken down. ​@rubynibs

@rubynibs

3 ай бұрын

@@honisoitquimalypense1316 How many videos were taken down? What are the channel names? When did this happen? Which books on the subject were banned, and when? Please name just 3 or 4 of each. Thanks!

what about the white slave trade in the Barbary coast. Every culture, race and nation has been enslaved at some point in history. If the Church feels it's necessary to pay money to someone, it should be to stop modern day slavery and people/child trafficking.

@rustyyb8450

3 ай бұрын

Islam made the slave trade racist. "Blacks, given that they are Moors like the others, are in any event the slaves of the latter by ancient custom." ... From the "Chronicle of the Discovery and Conquest of Guinea", by Gomes Eanes de Azurara, written in 1453, 39 years before the fall of the Caliphate in Granada. The first documented example of "The Curse of Ham" and "blackness" coming together in European minds. The earliest to record this account of black origins is attributed to Abdullah ibn Masʽūd (d. 653), a companion of Muḥammad, the prophet of Islam. He is quoted by Ibn Ḥakim (d. 1014/15) as follows: Noah was bathing and saw his son [Ham] looking at him and said to him,‘Are you watching me bathe? May God change your color!’ And he is the ancestor of the sūdān[i.e.,blacks].¹

@Permissiontospk

3 ай бұрын

It’s not the church, it’s Justin Welby. There’s a difference

@colinhunt4057

3 ай бұрын

The biggest gang of European slavers were the Knights of Saint John. From the 19th century on, they were running a pirate empire surviving on piracy and slaving raids from their stronghold on Malta. It was Napoleon's invasion of Malta in 1798 which put an end to the Knights. This was confirmed by Britain retaining control of Malta after the collapse of the French invasion of Egypt in 1799. It didn't matter; the pirate kingdom of the Knights was gone forever.

@lokimsjrrd3451

Ай бұрын

And every nation had immigration and was colonized. Did you forget what your ancestors did to the Roman Empire? Theirs a theme with your type.

Let's assume the British Empire never existed. Let's assume the European enlightenment never existed. How likely would it be that slavery would still exist as a common, universal institution of daily life? ..... End of argument....

@LeeroyGainz

3 ай бұрын

Fantastic point

@TheCompleteGuitarist

3 ай бұрын

Well said.

@GiacomoSorbi

3 ай бұрын

Well, very likely: look at all those slaves still being traded and abused where those two factor never really reached.

@jamesdellaneve9005

3 ай бұрын

Correct. The transatlantic trade would not have happened without Africans enslaving their neighbors and trading for them with the Western powers.

@madmelwood3778

3 ай бұрын

Yep..and even though the british empire did exist slavery still exists and most of them are still owned by black slave masters in africa..like they always dod

Around 1,25 millionn Eastrn Europeans were enslaved by the invading Ottoman. I have never seen this fact ever shown in any film, media.

@Ghost572

3 ай бұрын

Agreed, its doesnt even register into peoples minds because they don't even know who the ottoman empire are. That's the clown world we live in and has been for atleast 20 odd years.

@azazel0783

3 ай бұрын

Arabs enslaved more people than any other in history. Fact.

@riveteye93

3 ай бұрын

yeah, arguably the source of the word comes from the word slav

@rubynibs

3 ай бұрын

Write the story; it needs telling.

@azazel0783

3 ай бұрын

I replied to this but it's not here.

Brave to support J.K Rowling with that scar!

@jamietherooster

3 ай бұрын

JK Rowling is the original twitter woketard. She was all for censorship of men and the 'patriarchy' before the trans insanity hit and suddenly feminists lost the top spot in the victimhood hunger games. She is far from a friend of reason and rationality

@patriciasanderson2171

3 ай бұрын

What happend?

the british ended slavery. for the first time in history someone with actual power, tried to put an end to it. i am proud to be british! anyone who wants to question that - BRING IT! i dont mean comments, you come see me and put your balls on the line!

@youtubeyoutube936

3 ай бұрын

The kingdom of the two sicilies abolished slavery before GB.

@cabot100

3 ай бұрын

History indicates the British Empire conquered and enslaved people. The British did not end slavery.

@julieclonan2427

3 ай бұрын

That was The Ottoman Empire. ​@@cabot100

@AA-yc8yr

3 ай бұрын

@@youtubeyoutube936 Ffs, are you dense? Did the 'kingdom of the two sicillies' patrol the seas and oceans of the world to prevent slaves being transported? Did it? No.

@thegeneralist7527

3 ай бұрын

I'm proud to be a colonial.

The vikings owe me reparations

@pisasupayani

3 ай бұрын

That's between you and the Vikings. That doesn't excuse your theftd you little shit

@polysaturated

3 ай бұрын

They ought to pay back all that Danegeld with interest.

@ahkkariq7406

3 ай бұрын

The vikings are in your bloodstream.

@hah-vj7hc

3 ай бұрын

Who's gonna pay reparations to all of Europe, all of the Americas, half of Africa and a large portion of Asia for making us a Christian colony, destroying our real gods?

@GretsGarbo

3 ай бұрын

@@ahkkariq7406 And lots of African Americans and West Indians have white European in their bloodstream but still want money from us.

A mindless DISGRACE. How about the COE give back a billion pounds to the poor people of the UK.

@1312Johnny

3 ай бұрын

The Irish…🤷🏻‍♂️

"Hatred of the good for being the good." Its not our nations we hate. It is the truth we hate.

@ahkkariq7406

3 ай бұрын

Truth!

“These people as I say again are the enemy” - - YES and they must be treated accordingly. Stop being lambs and resume being lions. If not now, when? It may already be too late.

@bsleds4585

3 ай бұрын

Its already to late

You're a wizard Konstantin!

Reality is they ignore the fact that everyone had slaves, theyre just angry that the British Empire were the best. O and the British Empire were the forst to abolish slavery unlike modern Africa where the slave trading is srill going strong

@petrbohacek

3 ай бұрын

Many arab countries still have workers living under slave like condition (kafala system)

I have never owned a slave ,,, i do not have to care

@Bob_Adkins

3 ай бұрын

These shakedown artists that want reparations may be surprised by their family tree.

@aroutledge9565

3 ай бұрын

Oprah?

@willytheriot8439

3 ай бұрын

😂

@Bob_Adkins

3 ай бұрын

@@TheThirstyOtter Sounds about right!

Absolutely true Beautifully said Thank you

Douglas Murray’s podcast uncancelled history is a brilliant podcast for smashing the narrative around these topics.

Can not believe that this still has to be explained!! It's human history !

Konstantin is the boss and points out the ridiculousness of Britain stopping the slave trade in the entire world and feeling the worst in the world about slavery.

Slavery is prevalent across Africa today, over 80’000.😮

we are taxed beyond belief and generational wealth is almost impossible

Christianity is the only way And it's the reason the West became so enlightened and morally mature

2014 Britain finally paid off the debt it incurred ending slavery

@georgelstuart

3 ай бұрын

That's about the start of this follish reparations discussion.

@2Question-Everything

3 ай бұрын

@jyyb-took Haiti until 1947. Britain has faired better than Haiti.

Love Konstantin!

Konstantin being interviewed by the Aussie Francis Foster! 😂

You're right.

Britain paid a huge price, a very real cost, to END slavery! A cost we only stopped paying around a decade ago! Every single Britain over the age of around 28 who has paid taxes, has had some of that tax money be used to end slavery! But all we get is criticism from people who were never actually effected by it!

@ashlibabbittcroakedit9108

3 ай бұрын

So have the descendants of slaves paid that tax

Western Civilisation has never been more fragile.

@grannyannie2948

3 ай бұрын

Not since the fall of Rome.

@pisasupayani

3 ай бұрын

No such thing as western civilization.

@MrMirville

2 ай бұрын

@@grannyannie2948 The fall of Rome was not an important event : Western Europe, relatively to the rest of the world, was a cold swampy shithole very sparsely inhabited by internecine warring tribes (even under the Roman rule at its heyday the Gaulish tribes kept on warring as long as they did not attack the Roman forts and paid some tribute, like is tolerated nowadays in Africa and South America) : it would take some time for them to develop an original thing worthy to be called a civilization. Rome fell mostly because the economic hub had moved to Constantinople which enjoyed a far better location. Even in Italy Ravenna had become a far more exquisite city.

@grannyannie2948

2 ай бұрын

@@MrMirville Funny it was to Gaul that the survivors of Rome fled. I'm curious from where you came to your conclusions ? They are different to what I've been taught or have read. One of the reasons why Rome fell to the barbarians a thousand years before the fall of Constantinople, is that the barbarians were already living in the city of Rome as economic migrants. Which was it's self a symptom of the economic decline, debased currency etc. The similarities to today are astounding. I'm glad I'm already metaphorically in Gaul, well out of the cities where the decline will be more drastic.

@MrMirville

2 ай бұрын

@@grannyannie2948 Later on the part of Gaul north of Loire was tilled by German tribes as they alone had the right kind of ploughs and skills to dig in deep clayey soil of that region. One of that tribes was the Franks who emerged as the elite and claimed to be the successors of the last catholic Roman emperor thanks to Clovis' baptism.

It might be possible to make the repair, with 2 conditions: First renounce the nationality and then migrate to their country of origin. 🤔

@ashlibabbittcroakedit9108

3 ай бұрын

And what is my country of origin

@fionagregory9147

3 ай бұрын

When they call us gammon that is racist!

@aroutledge9565

3 ай бұрын

​@@ashlibabbittcroakedit9108probably Ghana that is where the Africans caught other Africans for slavery

Bravo sir, I hope you go on from strength to strength.

New subscriber here. Great Channel. Well spoken, common sense perspective and commentary.

I think the victims of black crime should be given reparations

As usual, well said. ☮️🇺🇸

Konstantin rocks and rolls!

GOD BLESS! BROTHER!!😢😢

Rome would never have been the roman empire without slavery!

@MrMirville

2 ай бұрын

It could have existed without it if they had kept content with a more austere life : the harshest labour was performed by legionaries.

Konstantin I have become a big fan as I listen to your common sense arguments on whatever subject you are asked about. I’m a relatively new fan about the middle of the summer last year, and I try to encourage everybody I know to watch/listen to your perspective. I have been a keen and avid fan of Thomas sowell for many many years. As I washed your interview in Australia on CIS, I was struck and encouraged that you sound an awful lot like Thomas Sowell. Your intellectual arguments are so basic and thoughtful and realistic. I want you to know I’m adding you to my prayer list because I know you get a lot of resistance, which I don’t think from your comments, you care much about, you’re gonna do what you think is right and people have a choice they don’t like it they don’t have to listen. Just a little bit about me. I’m an 83-year-old mother grandmother great grandmother, very very worried about our culture here in the United States of America, and I so hope that your platform grows and grows and grows God bless you, konstantin Marilyn McCann from San Marcos California, a state in real trouble and decline .

@DMSProduktions

3 ай бұрын

Watched.

Reparations to who exactly? Because slavery ended hundreds of years ago so no one is alive no more???

Self loathing is a better way to describe how western nations are being taught to behave.

Brilliant

I love all your content.

The Leftwaffe is really getting points with this original sin thing.

@Sidera17

3 ай бұрын

Ohhh, I want to steal this term. ❤

@hah-vj7hc

3 ай бұрын

Leftwaffe? Is that a word you made up after hearing the German word "Luftwaffe"? Did you learn that in a WW2 documentary? -.- Listen, only because the Austrian madman who used to unfortunately rule our country, used German words, doesn't make any random German word a nutsy word (yes, I know how to spell it properly...) My grandparents were among the first victims of their government. And this just rubs me the wrong way.

There's a huge difference between self-criticism and self-degradation. That along with people having no purpose in life and feeling the need to stand on the shoulders of others and call themselves tall to feel some sense of contribution.

the United Nations would like to administer your compensation for slavery and it will be so well-run, just like UNRWA

Hey, why not asking money and apologies from the countries that sold the slaves to European nations in the first place?

Paying reparations to people these days is just making them the slave masters 😂😂

Nobody should have to apologise for the actions of others hundreds of years ago. Backwards logic. The British empire created the civilised world today, yes there were bad things about it, but overall, it was a great good for the world.

@jean-pierre5221

3 ай бұрын

Wrong, "some" can apologise. The UK paid last bill to the decendants of slave owners in 2015. That means the decendants continued to receive money. In terms of reparations, I believe any UK citizen who is a decendant of a slave in the Americas or Caribbean should be compensated and recoup every £ that came out of their taxes to pay the decendants of slave owners. That is fair.

@StrongManLiving

3 ай бұрын

@user-rw6df2rg1v Completely agree. I speak as a brit, who is fed up with my country being demonised for everything

@davehallett810

3 ай бұрын

​@@jean-pierre5221To be fair the Turkish ottoman empire lasted a lot longer and was a lot more brutal than the British empire could ever be or ever hope to be, and slavery was still legal in Turkey right up until 1924. Why isn't their culture under threat 🤔

@noalarms4618

3 ай бұрын

@@jean-pierre5221 So, you want to take money from people who have never owned a slave, give it to people who have never been a slave and you think that’s fair? That was a rhetorical question, so please don’t give yourself a aneurysm, with the strain of the mental gymnastics required to justify this.

@jean-pierre5221

3 ай бұрын

@@davehallett810 culture under threat? What are you talking about? This conversation is about apologising and reparations.

If such money were to be spent, it’s better used to fight against the trillion dollar current day victims of slavery. How long do those slaves have to wait until the so-called “ancestors of slavery” are satisfied

I'd vote for you, Konstantin!

I realise Konstantin needs to make a strong point and hold a line, and I respect him for doing so - but many of the people who hold these views are not “The enemy”; Many of them are confused or misled or just sheep. There are genuinely bad people who are prepared to end civilisation through hate, but they remain in the minority - they’re just having a high impact.

He had a great point right at the beginning. We have been teaching people for 60 years to hate our civilization, why are we surprised they hate their civilization?

I like the idea that the families of those brave English sailors who lost their lives ending the slave trade, are owed something by the people whose liberty they sacrificed for. Same with the families of those who fought in the Union army.

Our favourite form of racism is feeling superior.We never mention Arabic slavery for this reason - we don’t expect them to be any better! Our abolition of the triangle trade is further proof of our superiority!

Bob Marley lyrics... "Stolen from Africa duh duh duh duh duh duh duh".. Work better than the more realistic 'sold in a legitimate slave market by other black Africans as was the custom/norm at the time duh duh duh duh duh duh duh'... 'the black on black slavery still goes on today but we just don't hear about it duh duh duh duh duh duh duh'...

the literal word for slave cones from the word for slav. It was never about race. And the brits ended how much of it they could get their cannons aimed at. Thank you Britain.

If they spent a billion in a time machine went back and fixed it all it still wouldn't be enough, repatriation over reparations

So - when is Saudi Arabia going to pay Germany, England, France, Spain, Italy, Belgium, Denmark, Sweden?

@hah-vj7hc

3 ай бұрын

As soon as we don't require oil anymore? Oh wait, they'll be broke then.

Why should people who have never been enslaved, expect people who have never owned slaves to pay reparations?

@ashlibabbittcroakedit9108

3 ай бұрын

Err the church of England has owned a slaves, and they are paying reparations

You forgot something: The first British abolitionists were christians, sensitive to biblical truths. Nevertheless, I respect and admire KK, he is the voice of a generation along with Jordan Peterson.

@keithhunt5328

3 ай бұрын

What about the passages in the Bible where Jesus justifies slavery

@joaoduarte7682

3 ай бұрын

@@keithhunt5328 1- Please, read the Bible in its social & cultural context. 2- Show me the passages where Jesus, apostle Paul and Old Testament laws "justify" slavery, and maybe we can have a fruitful debate. And yes, thats correct, slavery is mentioned in the Bible, because it's history, like in the rest of the world.

@hah-vj7hc

3 ай бұрын

Your desert god literally condoned slavery. In fact, he created slavery and the very willingness to commit it. Also, was is possible to come out as an infidel at the time and still wield enough political power to change the world? If that is not the case, and i believe it is not, then your entire argument is null and void and there is no way of knowing if those people were Christians or pretenders who maintained a politically correct persona, to use the modern term. @@joaoduarte7682

The question I would ask Mr Kistin is should there be reparations for sexually abused people from the catholic church in the 20th century. I’m guessing he would say yes!

@PeterbFree

3 ай бұрын

And how about reparations from liberals for all the sex-trafficked children that every liberal vote facilitated?

The Crimean Khanate was one of the successor states of the Golden Horde. In 1475, it entered into an alliance with the Ottoman Empire which gradually evolved into a vassalage. The Ottoman tutelage (or protectorate) over the Crimean Khanate lasted for exactly 300 years. For 300 years 100% budget of Crimean Khanate state came from raiding what is now South Russia, Ukraine and Poland enslaving millions of people and selling them on slave markets of Ottoman Empire. Nearly 2 million Russians, Ukrainians, and Poles were taken into slavery by the Crimean Tatars from 1468 to 1694. We have a proverb: An uninvited guest is worse than a Tatar. Mothers still scare naughty children; the Tatars will take you away.

Give them 100 billion and there will not be happy there’ll be something else apart from the money😢

William Wilberforce stopped slavery and he was British.

@sophialefort-1414

3 ай бұрын

Hahaha all by himself lol

I'm Sicilian... colonized by north africa and the middle east 3 times (along with the greeks, romans, byzantines, normans, aragonese, spanish, austrians, british etc.)... where are my reparations?

So should cost of ending slavery be factord in to reparations? The British government spent £20 million (equivalent to approximately £20 billion today) to buy freedom for the slaves. This expenditure accounted for a staggering 40% of the national budget in 1833. Remarkably, the debt incurred for the Slavery Abolition Act was not fully paid off until 2015

@antaresjj

Ай бұрын

All true And the money went to the British elite who lord over the UK to this day...

We need more voices of reason like Konstantin. Have been critical of schools and media for years only teaching the Atlantic slave trade, and not that slavery existed for 1000's of years before. And continued into the 1980's. A quick internet search will tell you the last countries to abolish slavery. And we all know modern slavery still continues in some areas.

I would rather have been born in this country than 95% of other places in the world.

So I have a Fifth great grandfather that was a slave under England's rule but was freed during the American Revolutionary War. What form(s) do I and my kin fill out to get some of that sweet sweet reparations money?

@hah-vj7hc

3 ай бұрын

So you're white? I mean, if you're at least a lesbian, you might get a penny or two. Otherwise, how abotu you transition, do the anti-MJ and come again?

Who is going to compensate ME for the destruction of my identity?

I always wonder, how long before the descendants of today’s slaves ask for reparations.

Cancel cancel culture

IF reparations are paid, then what? Will more be demanded? Can we have our history back? Our statues? Our culture? Will the whining ever stop?

@Funnyg00se

2 ай бұрын

When does the reparation end? When can we say that we have had a successful reconciliation and move on?

@merlesmith6794

2 ай бұрын

@@Funnyg00se Yeah it’s a trick question. And the trick is on the payer.

Will there be reparations to the Irish who enslaved and sold into the Ottoman slave trade.

Min 6. It's called the Toqueville Paradox.

For years I have been helping to raise money for our local CofE village Church. I now have to ask myself why! They have obviously more money that me. What a fraud.

Could also make the point that slavery was not a thing in Europe while the slave trade was happening during the 18th and early 19th century. You didn't have slaves in France or England in the late 18th century. Benjamin Franklin had to beg his slaves not to get their freedom in pre-revolutionary France when he was ambassador.

We take sooo much for granted. Something needs to give imho...

KK offers a good dose of History. Complex, and hard to grasp if one wants a simple myth.

They haven’t signed off on £1bn, they’ve agreed to pay about £100m towards reparations and been told by organisations they have to go further and spend £1bn. I agree with Kisin here just wanted to give the real fact

There is not a single person on this planet that isn't descended from both a slave and a slave owner. Every culture across the world has practiced slavery at some point in history and while I'm less certain about every group having been enslaved enough have been that I would honestly be surprised if you could find anyone that didn't have an ancestor who was enslaved even if you had to go all the way back to before recorded history to find one.

Ancient history is what happened before the start of the year.

@daviru02

3 ай бұрын

Actually, ancient history was last Saturday

@hah-vj7hc

3 ай бұрын

You are literally ancient history.@@daviru02

@hah-vj7hc

3 ай бұрын

And my ancient self once wrote an ancient document proving this, a so-called "Youtubus commentus"@@daviru02

@daviru02

3 ай бұрын

@@hah-vj7hc Apparently

YES! We've indeed had it too good. People can dedicate their entire lives to the study of whatever the hell they feel like it seems which to me is an indicator of an opulent society. Even if only in their own minds. 🙃

As soon as agriculture was invented, slavery developed because labor was needed .

Are us Brits due reparations from Rome and Denmark?

The transatlantic slave trade and the sub-Saharan slave trade could *not* have existed without the *complicity* of other Africans *selling* their fellow Africans to both European and Arabian slave traders. Any talk of reparations is immediately laughable in light of this fact. Any denigration of European character and colonialism is immediately rendered utter foolishness by this fact.

In Lithuanian (indoeuropean Baltic language) slave is "vergas", in Ukrainian (indoeuropean slavic language) enemy is "vorog". Both bear the same root VRG. Slavery has nothing to do with racism. The last country to abolish slavery is Mauritania, in Africa

@hah-vj7hc

3 ай бұрын

The word slave is derived from "Slav" btw. And the German word "Sklave" (=slave) is derived from the word "Slave" (=Slav) This particular word is kind of racist, in a way. I mean, Slavs were slaves to them. And in parts of the Arab world, they still use the word "abd" (depending on the dialect, abood, abeed, abdi etc, root word is abd) is still used to describe black people. It means... well, you know what it means. So does slavery per se have anything to do with racism? No, of course not. But both have the same origins. And I hope we will overcome both one day, I don't think we have as of yet.

I'll say it since i haven't seen it in the comments. Cool new haircut 👍😄

George Orwell predicted all of this in 1940 in his review of Hitler’s book. Mine, he said Hitler and Stalin had a much better view of how to motivate people than the socialist who thought everybody was just motivated by wanting to have less distress and more comfort, he said that those two men had hit upon something that is uniquely human about the desire to be part of something bigger, and something that will last long after they are gone, and that their conception of reality was much more sound, and very evil he also, of course, said, but that they would be able to motivate people where the socialist could not by simply offering people, more holidays, and better pay.

@hah-vj7hc

3 ай бұрын

Those two were socialists btw. You seem to have missed this detail. Granted, too few people would tell you these days that A.H. was a socialist, probably the same ones who call national socialism, "nazism". Well, nazi is a slang word and the t in the German word "national" is pronounced like the German "z" which sounds like "ts", that's the entire reason this slang word has been made up.

@mechengineer4life

3 ай бұрын

you are not well infomred... he was a socialist (Orwell) but he absolutely disavowed USSR and even the communist forces that fought in Spain (and he fought with them) he then wrote Animal Farm which tore USSR and Bolsheviks into shreds... which is why so many publishers would not publish it in the UK and it took him several attempts (Socialism then as now was super popular among the elite actors and literary types of British society)@@hah-vj7hc

Who wants the real story when they can have the fiction? Do you remember the ending of the film, Man who shot Liberty Valance?

Someones been reading some Thomas Sowell maybe. Conquest and Cultures, such a good book. Covers this in spectacualr fashion.

Personally i think reparations need to be paid And they come with a one way plane ticket to whichever country of origin the persons slave ancestors came from. It would only be fair.

@stracepipe

3 ай бұрын

The people who have benefited most from slavery are the descendants of the slaves, who are much better off than the people left behind in their ancestors' country of origin. This is shown by their reluctance to return.

@pepita2437

3 ай бұрын

Not really. Since most of the black slaves taken by the Arabic people were never allowed to leave descendants behind (a lots of the men were castrated) So certain countries would pay no reparation, while others would have to.

@ashlibabbittcroakedit9108

3 ай бұрын

​@stracepipe Nope the race that benefited the most, which is your race

@aroutledge9565

3 ай бұрын

Africans sold Africans to Arabs and Europeans, reparations should be paid by the Africans who sold the slaves, its common sense you would think.

@m444ss

3 ай бұрын

paying reparations - even with a one-way ticket and promise never to return - would still be giving into the grift by stealing from others to make the exorbitant payments.

Well, you can easily pay that much money...I would agree if that would shut everyone up but it won't

So it takes a Rusian to remind us to be proud of being British. I have yet to dissagre with any point KK makes.

“It never had anything to do with racism” - and people take this young man seriously!?!?

I think we can all agree that slavery has been a problem globally, at least since its inception at the very start of time and someone being a loser in that very first tribal war, probably became the first "slave" ? So the only way we can solve this correctly is if those trying to make monetary claims, went away and worked out the account for EVERY country in the world, so we could divvy up and see "netto" who owes who, what ? Africa will come about 250,000 yrs down the line, from the start of humanity. NOT No.1 like they seem to feel entitled to.

I'm so pleased that I was able to choose my parents, where & when I was born, my sex & which religion not to choose. I'm only responsible for my actions 👍

if we don't learned anything from the mistake of the past.....nothing will change