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Initially used as a term to empower awareness of systemic inequalities in society, wokeism is now a deeply divisive term. The media's perpetuation of woke culture has made this term a buzzword. For some, being woke is part of the antidote of acknowledging the instruments of oppression. For others, it is a dangerously absolutist ideology, a sort of reverse McCarthyism, corroding liberal society and encouraging self-imposed victimhood. Is the 'war on woke' a legitimate phenomenon, or a reactionary distraction from the real problems being 'woke' addresses?
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  • @Storm0763
    @Storm0763 Жыл бұрын

    You don't have to be an Oxford graduate to know this madness has gone way way to far

  • @richardduplessis1090

    @richardduplessis1090

    Жыл бұрын

    Most of the Oxford undergraduates (and possibly graduates), are well on board with the woke BS

  • @robertcottam8824

    @robertcottam8824

    Жыл бұрын

    @@richardduplessis1090 Is this because they attend an élite university? Or because they possess above average intelligence? Or both? Ignorance has few benefits except to the purveyors of the tabloid newspapers which exploit it. Oxford is a fine university. Along with Cambridge, the LSE, Imperial and Durham it's one of the few, in England, worth attending. Oxford is almost certainly the best of them. I say 'almost' only because Cambridge (shudder)runs it close. Don't let envy cloud your judgement, dear boy.

  • @richardduplessis1090

    @richardduplessis1090

    Жыл бұрын

    @@robertcottam8824 I was educated at UCL long before the emergence of 'wokism', when degrees were worth a lot more than they are today. Your one sentence second paragraph states: "Ignorance has few benefits except to the purveyors of the tabloid newspapers which exploit it", impliedly suggesting that the 'woke' agenda is some form of enlightenment. My original comment was based on the supposition that these students reflect the bias of the institution within which they're being educated (brainwashed).

  • @robertcottam8824

    @robertcottam8824

    Жыл бұрын

    @@richardduplessis1090 I agree with you that degrees have declined in value as the number of universities - many of them nothing of the kind - has increased. But, nevertheless, the élite institutions, such as UCL, remain so. The principles which underlie so-called 'wokeism' and 'identity politics' precede both both you and me - unless you're very old. 'Phenomenology', for instance, entered the schools of both Philosophy and Mathematics in the late '60s /early '70s. Unfortunately, the activities of a few hotheads who simply or deliberately misunderstand the noble aims of inclusion and social equality have brought discredit with them. But the concept of 'uniqueness'; a cohort of one, remains. And it's been there for a long time in the writings of Camus, Sartre, Hugo, Byron... No one describes them as 'deviant' anymore - although they were all thought so, once. Similarly, the suffragettes were once thought as dangerous, deranged or both. Only the boneheaded would think that now. In time, radical ideas often become mainstream. More broadly, I don't have any problem with folk 'identfying' in any way they see fit. It's not my business. Neither do I have a problem in accepting that the lives of those possessing more melanin in their skin matter just as much as mine. What, then, is actually wrong with the ideas of 'woke' folk - apart from the shenanigans of relatively few dingbats? The second paragraph of my first response, although short is discrete. Best wishes.

  • @informant09

    @informant09

    Жыл бұрын

    Most of them are part of the problem so let them argue with themselves.

  • @chris-4566
    @chris-4566 Жыл бұрын

    When I mention WOKE culture or trans rights to my friends who don’t spend as much time as I do on KZread, they laugh and say “what are you on about. It’s a “thing” only on social media. I remember Kier Starmer getting flustered having being asked “what is a woman”. He knows perfectly well what a woman is, he’s married to one but he couldn’t explain it in words for fear of “offending” the woke movement. How crazy is that?

  • @alexalilei7884

    @alexalilei7884

    Жыл бұрын

    The opinions of real people differ vastly than the internet would lead us to believe. But most people dont want to be involved in the drama and stay quiet so the internet mob seizes control and believes itself to be the common opinion. Then they trick or threaten people/organizations into believing the same. Truth is most people arent inclined to engage in the drama and nobody asks them en masse what they believe and want, so the minority take the reigns.

  • @guywilletts2804

    @guywilletts2804

    Жыл бұрын

    OK, please define what a woman is. Don't just say "a female person". That's a synonym, not a definition.

  • @thewerewolfofnorway437

    @thewerewolfofnorway437

    Жыл бұрын

    @@guywilletts2804 a woman is those people who get around with real vaginas.

  • @Monkeyboysdontknow

    @Monkeyboysdontknow

    Жыл бұрын

    @@guywilletts2804 A woman is an adult human being that was born with female genitalia, hermaphrodites excepted, as they are a special case.

  • @guywilletts2804

    @guywilletts2804

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thewerewolfofnorway437 so does that include Phillipa York (google her)?

  • @MicroMouge
    @MicroMouge Жыл бұрын

    Im so very happy to have come across these clips. So good to see intelligent people pushing back on the destructive woke movement.

  • @notusingmyname4791

    @notusingmyname4791

    Жыл бұрын

    well.. not everyone who has been pushing back have been intelligent, but everyone who is intelligent have been pushing back..... the problem has been the only ones who are publicized as pushing back have been the unintelligent ones.

  • @driskoolio

    @driskoolio

    Жыл бұрын

    What did they destroy

  • @hebermoloney

    @hebermoloney

    Жыл бұрын

    Nice to see that intelligent people still exist

  • @smellthecoffee5314

    @smellthecoffee5314

    Жыл бұрын

    @@driskoolio The careers of many decent and hardworking people who simply have a seperate opinion from them for a start. They are destroying any chance of cohesive society - identity politics is a dividing force in society not briging it together. It is destroying peoples belief in their own country making them feel it has done nothing but terrible things and they should feel perpetually guilty about it. Woke activism is by design destructive - the disrupting of binaries, hierarchies and power structures is the very foundation of its Theories. It offers nothing constructive to replace them. Look it up for yourself.

  • @driskoolio

    @driskoolio

    Жыл бұрын

    @@smellthecoffee5314 tell me about ONE person who had their career destroyed

  • @DrawTheThinLine
    @DrawTheThinLine Жыл бұрын

    Well said Toby, common sense at its best. Great points, excellent perspective.

  • @andrewspencer5220
    @andrewspencer5220 Жыл бұрын

    Spot on. Insulting people does not persuade them that you are right.

  • @CourtneyHaynes

    @CourtneyHaynes

    Жыл бұрын

    You say this as he insults an entire movement. The usual response to this is "Oh you're jus too triggered to understand when people are telling you facts". But again, maybe Toby Young and you are getting triggered over them telling YOU facts that you happen to take as insults.

  • @smellthecoffee5314

    @smellthecoffee5314

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CourtneyHaynes The movement deserves insults. It claims the moral high ground on kindness and fairness yet in action is divisive, deceitful, completely dishonest and hateful.

  • @MohitKumar-jf8lz

    @MohitKumar-jf8lz

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CourtneyHaynes this movement is nothing more than a collection of people who have too much time on their and want to feel special because they don't have much resistance in their life.

  • @madMARTYNmarsh1981

    @madMARTYNmarsh1981

    Жыл бұрын

    I'd argue it solidifies that person's stance rather that opening their mind to a differing opinion. That's something extremely difficult to do even if one is respectful, insulting someone out of hand for a differing opinion will only drive them into a radicalised perspective. That's my experience at least.

  • @CourtneyHaynes

    @CourtneyHaynes

    Жыл бұрын

    @@smellthecoffee5314 maybe you and others deserve insults and they are on the moral high ground

  • @brianarps8756
    @brianarps8756 Жыл бұрын

    Political ideologies have no brakes. They always go too far.

  • @daskritterhaus5491

    @daskritterhaus5491

    Жыл бұрын

    its a function of a certain cadre type that follows thru history, a type ever watching for new ideologies providing the springboard for acquisition and wielding of power.

  • @SvenTviking

    @SvenTviking

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m keeping that! Superb!

  • @M7awesat

    @M7awesat

    Жыл бұрын

    @@daskritterhaus5491 that's very well put.

  • @jumpingjohnflash

    @jumpingjohnflash

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, the UK Tories and their 40 years of neo-liberalism along with their current Brexit obsession are proof of that. UK economic growth over the last few years has been abysmal.

  • @ctloo0808

    @ctloo0808

    Жыл бұрын

    Actually you are wrong , they cannot go too far. Because it cannot go too far, they always have something to turn into manure and turn the world into even more sh*"t.

  • @williamlee3534
    @williamlee3534 Жыл бұрын

    That was an absolute tour de force, Toby. A brilliant and articulate exposition of the flawed approach embraced by the Woke cult. Thank you.

  • @jackieo8235
    @jackieo8235 Жыл бұрын

    Listening to this man is like a breath of fresh air. I hope these people are taking all this in.

  • @geraldbutler5484

    @geraldbutler5484

    Жыл бұрын

    Jackie, it’s all a load of right wing American bollocks. The woke, cancel culture, freedom, trans, women’s lavatories stuff from the USA has been tried in the last 3 Australian elections, state and federal, and failed miserably. The conservatives were demolished. People care about health, education and housing.

  • @davidsiegfriedklinger2422

    @davidsiegfriedklinger2422

    Жыл бұрын

    Yawn 🥱

  • @spotable2

    @spotable2

    11 ай бұрын

    As long as woke means being a descent human being and having empathy...(WHICH IT DOES) and also not being part of Tory"isum"...or believing msm bull crap (WHICH IT DOES)...then I am extremely pleased to be "woke".

  • @geraldbutler5484

    @geraldbutler5484

    11 ай бұрын

    @@spotable2 If you are the opposite of a Daily Mail reader, then you are woke and a decent human being.

  • @Hockeystick7-lh5ik

    @Hockeystick7-lh5ik

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@spotable2*decent

  • @bobbyuk5866
    @bobbyuk5866 Жыл бұрын

    The only person I can think of, who could have made this point so successfully is, Douglas Murray.

  • @shashankshukla7147

    @shashankshukla7147

    Жыл бұрын

    Would've been unfair to put Douglas against these kids!

  • @DJWESG1

    @DJWESG1

    Жыл бұрын

    Another freak.

  • @manusha1349

    @manusha1349

    Жыл бұрын

    And Christopher Hitchens

  • @tagus100

    @tagus100

    Жыл бұрын

    Douglas Murray and Andrew Doyle would've annihilated these college kids.

  • @jackdubz4247

    @jackdubz4247

    Жыл бұрын

    Douglas Murray and the word successful should never be used in the same sentence. He only exists in this tiny bubble of faux intelligentsia. But the truth is, outside of said bubble, nobody knows who he is. And nobody cares who he is.

  • @lawsonspedding6136
    @lawsonspedding6136 Жыл бұрын

    The Tavistock Clinic is now facing over 1000 law suits for the medical malpractice and injuries caused to children and the ignoring of psychological problems and the help that should have been given instead of mutilation !

  • @thewerewolfofnorway437

    @thewerewolfofnorway437

    Жыл бұрын

    And that class action WILL be won.

  • @monk3yboy69

    @monk3yboy69

    Жыл бұрын

    Class Action does not exist in UK law….

  • @thewerewolfofnorway437

    @thewerewolfofnorway437

    Жыл бұрын

    @@monk3yboy69 you do know the UK is a mix of countries don't you?

  • @01What10

    @01What10

    Жыл бұрын

    Everyone involved with Tavistock should be criminally prosecuted for their crimes. Make no mistake, what they were doing' and what all these gender clinics are doing are Crimes Against Humanity. And should be treated as such.

  • @MrBiddy1975

    @MrBiddy1975

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thewerewolfofnorway437 Yes, and Wales and Scotland don’t deserve a say in any laws etc, because incredibly they are even more corrupt, useless, and vile than the vermin in Westminster. Trust me I know, I’m Welsh, and I’d Tsar the lot of them, especially Mrs Doubtfire.

  • @sandramiller1933
    @sandramiller1933 Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant, articulate and inspirational! Thank you Toby Young!

  • @geraldbutler5484

    @geraldbutler5484

    Жыл бұрын

    I don’t believe woke means anything. It came from the American right and is used as a cultural cudgel to bash people on the enlightened side of politics. Next on the conveyer belt of indignation from the US is grooming. Prepare your battle lines. Listening to this wordy Tory babbling about the woke, the woke is sickening. The woke army does not exist except in the minds of conservatives, especially the privileged variety.

  • @thomasjoseph5876

    @thomasjoseph5876

    Жыл бұрын

    He had a great speech up until the last 20 or so seconds and then he basically caved by naming some groups and causes such as BLM and others that he said were good and everyone supported. Sorry, but I don't respect those that give us a firey speech and then at the last moment in the end, throw out a "disclaimer" essentially invalidating a large part of what they just said. Woke culture is despicable and should be targeted and destroyed whenever possible. If we don't, they will continue to fester and remain around much as racism has.

  • @shoutingmuteness3902

    @shoutingmuteness3902

    10 ай бұрын

    Why don't you donate money?

  • @ianboard544
    @ianboard544 Жыл бұрын

    I wish we had something like this here in the US. Good speeches and a free exchange of ideas.

  • @geraldbutler5484

    @geraldbutler5484

    Жыл бұрын

    That Tory used the word ‘woke’ 31 times in his diatribe. There is no such entity as ‘the woke’, it is a right wing American cultural creation similar to the lefts use of ‘RWNJ’.

  • @idrathergetaidsthangetwoke9145

    @idrathergetaidsthangetwoke9145

    Жыл бұрын

    Your implying we don't? Or just not something as this hosted by a reputable University?

  • @petrmiros9908

    @petrmiros9908

    Жыл бұрын

    WUT? You have billion of those.

  • @RobertMJohnson

    @RobertMJohnson

    Жыл бұрын

    LOLOL. we do on more campuses than you can count

  • @ATMyles

    @ATMyles

    10 ай бұрын

    In the U.S., speeches like this are constantly shouted down by “woke” protesters or the forums are cancelled altogether by the university leadership who kowtow to the angry mob.

  • @ThunderboltWisdom
    @ThunderboltWisdom Жыл бұрын

    Good speech. I hope we are at a turning point now where the woke backlash and cancel culture will gradually be faded out. Only time will tell, but I hope that soon we are looking back on this terrible episode through the rear-view mirror.

  • @schwags1969

    @schwags1969

    Жыл бұрын

    A lot of damage has already been done, let's get back on track as a society.

  • @stleonards1066

    @stleonards1066

    Жыл бұрын

    Seems unlikely as its taught as fact throughout the schooling process in the UK

  • @wordscapes5690

    @wordscapes5690

    Жыл бұрын

    "Won't SOMEBODY please think of the CHILDREN!" Every generation has a coronary about people who appear to be shattering their little world of Old Normal. Live a little longer, and you will see it. We had the anti slavery crowd whom everyone labelled as insane, then we had the suffragettes, then the swingers, then the ducktails, the hippies.....We just give the same thing new names. And always people talk of the horrors of change and "those weird people destroying our traditions and beliefs." Young pups. You all make me laugh heartily.

  • @MVUK358

    @MVUK358

    Жыл бұрын

    @@wordscapes5690 The suffragettes weren't demanding that people who didn't agree with them be censored or fired from their jobs, neither did Ghandi or Martin Luther King. Incredibly disingenuous to make such comparisons. They also didn't ask for doctors to throw all biology and scientific methodologies out the window to allow children to have irreversible treatments done to them (like hormone therapy or castration) so they can 'transition' to another gender 'because they can feel better' - without questioning the consequences for their futures!

  • @caffynated552

    @caffynated552

    Жыл бұрын

    It could have been good, but his ending killed it. He's fine with endorsing all of their degeneracy as long as they just stop being mean about it.

  • @jkscout
    @jkscout Жыл бұрын

    Wow, he really shut down those angry leftist students with his kind, compassionate words. He gave them a taste of their own "Be kind" medicine in action.

  • @robertcottam8824

    @robertcottam8824

    Жыл бұрын

    Hmmm. Did he? Really? I witnessed only a series of non sequiturs, glibly delivered. He made no argument.

  • @joshuaam7701

    @joshuaam7701

    Жыл бұрын

    @@robertcottam8824 if you missed the argument I’d go back and rewatch it, as he had some spot in points, you actually proved those points with your very comment.

  • @jimj.6412

    @jimj.6412

    Жыл бұрын

    @@robertcottam8824 The misfits of our country need to wake up and understand their Reign of Terror is over! They are being put back in their closets!

  • @robertcottam8824

    @robertcottam8824

    Жыл бұрын

    @@joshuaam7701 An interesting reply. No. I missed nothing except his cogency. I did note false-equivalence, superficial plausibility, weightlessness of intellect, absence of scholarship... In a word, 'specious'; essentially, 'wortless:; 'populist'. Best wishes.

  • @keeparguing611

    @keeparguing611

    Жыл бұрын

    @@robertcottam8824 the first student said Ireland is being colonized by British, and he said a lot of people in ireland want it to be part of British so it can't be case of colonialism 2nd one said there were issues with the government that prevented it from providing trans care, but he said the government was willing to give it, but was afraid of doing it wrong or not good enough, which is enough to trigger the woke mob thats what i gleaned, are you saying all of this is "series of non sequiturs, glibly delivered." words?

  • @wetlazer
    @wetlazer Жыл бұрын

    Mr. Young was brilliant. Strong arguments, polite, courteous, professional and blunt with his questioners. A damn perfect job.

  • @partidaportet27

    @partidaportet27

    Жыл бұрын

    You won't be saying that we he drives his bus full of eugenicists over your head... Pfft sycophant

  • @wetlazer2443

    @wetlazer2443

    Жыл бұрын

    @@partidaportet27 I will look into your claim. My guess is, in much the same way that folks intentionally misquote Jordan Peterson about so-called enforced monogamy, you are probably intentionally misquoting something this fellow said. With enforced monogamy, we know Peterson meant peer pressure, essentially. Let's say friends and family members saying to a married son, daughter or friend "Hey, if you have sex outside of your marriage it will hurt your partner's feelings and probably ruin your marriage. It will also hurt your children." - - That was what Peterson meant, I don't know what this man said, or what he meant, but I would bet dollars to donuts it's that same kind of intentional misquote, based on disingenuous virtue signaling.

  • @heavi-armed-infadel
    @heavi-armed-infadel Жыл бұрын

    As a conservative living in America I can assure you we feel the exact same way about wokeness as this gentleman does. Wokeness conducts itself with the same racial bigotry that they claim to oppose in all it's forms. Next time an American academic preaches to you about inclusivity ask them how many conservatives are in their sociology department. Hypocrisy abounds.

  • @robindew9072

    @robindew9072

    Жыл бұрын

    Well Said

  • @pinchebruha405

    @pinchebruha405

    Жыл бұрын

    Conservatives value money over peoples issues. They’re not beating down the doors of sociology departments for that equal representation. The conservative brain is absolutely different than the dare I say Social brain? Just go look at brain scans. The problems we have is there is no more compromise just my way or the highway by both sides.

  • @jimpickard3850

    @jimpickard3850

    Жыл бұрын

    Hypocrisy is the enclave of the Left.

  • @motivationallizard6644

    @motivationallizard6644

    9 ай бұрын

    I’m fairly young (17) and am attending a summer academy at a major university, one that’s become somewhat synonymous with “wokeness”. I can say from personal experience that what your talking about doesn’t really exist. Many of the kids here have conservative views and contrary to popular media they aren’t crushed, they are debated by other students on the merits of their opinion. The only lines we don’t cross are abject Sexism, Racism, and clear discrimination.

  • @omahhumvajragurupadmasiddhihum

    @omahhumvajragurupadmasiddhihum

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@motivationallizard6644if you took the time to read his statement carefully, he's taking about academics... and he's right. Conservative academics have been censored and ostracised. Taking as an academic. But please do keep living in a bubble.

  • @martinneill5396
    @martinneill5396 Жыл бұрын

    "To smear, to ostracise, to publicly shame, to cancel". Twitter is the same. Your are having a reasonable exchange of Tweets about women's rights and some Gender Identity activists crash in calling everyone a bigot and a transphobe , reporting you to get you suspended: the Twitter equivalent of banging pots and pans and blaring foghorns outside a lecture theatre or meeting place. The Grievance Industrial Comple is such a good term; the first time I heard it. Thank you Toby.

  • @lil-g4879

    @lil-g4879

    Жыл бұрын

    People like him and other right wing commentators do that all of the time. But as with most snowflakes culture warriors, they can give it but can’t take it. Love cancelling people, hate being cancelled.

  • @AH-gk6qs

    @AH-gk6qs

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lil-g4879 classic TRA lying and hyperbole. This is why you are losing

  • @mhtbfecsq1

    @mhtbfecsq1

    Жыл бұрын

    ''To smear, to ostracise, to publicly shame, to cancel" yes that's exactly what the right wing media and politicians have been doing for YEARS and it's worse now than ever and it's the reason the country is on it's knees and people dying left right and centre for reasons they never would have died for under Labour.

  • @lil-g4879

    @lil-g4879

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AH-gk6qs you’ve just said a lot of words without actually saying anything. Losing what ye tit?

  • @lil-g4879

    @lil-g4879

    Жыл бұрын

    @@martinneill5396 I can see why it is difficult for you to be blinkered given you’re probably a Conservative, but I’m afraid you’re not telling the whole truth. One of the key strategists in the UK working on behalf of the Tories is a man called Ed Barker. Like other right-wing strategists, Barker is leading the Conservatives into a new culture war. One of the key ideas they are trying to push is that there is such a thing as ‘cancel culture’. In 2018, the BBC’s Reality Check team sent Freedom of Information requests to every university in the country asking for lists of books that had been banned, speakers cancelled and courses changed as a result of offence caused. Out of 120 universities that responded, no book had been removed from any library since 2010 - though Holocaust denier David Irving had the indignity of his being moved out of the ‘history’ section in two. Only four courses had been changed - in one case, to remove a joke photo of a scrotum. And there were only six occasions on which universities had cancelled speakers as a result of complaints. There’s no such thing as cancel culture; it is a made up strawman by right wing strategists and politicians to use to curry favour with their voters because they know how the bigoted English don’t like equality. It’s better than dealing with actual policies that can affect people’s lives; why not just pretend you’re at war with woke…you’re part of the problem unfortunately, you’ve been sidetracked by it, instead of focusing on what policies from the political parties could actual help Britain. The Tories have none, so they make up this shite, and you all lap it up…

  • @robbyjones9813
    @robbyjones9813 Жыл бұрын

    The statement that we do not disagree with what woke culture are trying to achieve but its methodology is a major reason that many rebel against this theology. The other point he brings out well is how those who stand for social justice seem stuck on the idea that their own said country is uniquely "racist" without asking about the wider world and ignoring the history victories we have had and why and how they came about.

  • @H0n3yMonstah

    @H0n3yMonstah

    Жыл бұрын

    The right have never agreed with any methodology, that's why we have a climate crisis. Exxon's own scientists knew the damage carbon emissions would cause decades ago, it was swept under the carpet. And no, most of us don't think their own country is uniquely racist. Your points are rubbish.

  • @DJWESG1

    @DJWESG1

    Жыл бұрын

    Lay off the crack.. honestly, it's dementing your head.

  • @freedomslunch

    @freedomslunch

    Жыл бұрын

    The Woke narrative dies when you go back further than the 1700s and look further than "the West." The depravity and nobility of humanity has been on display throughout human history, throughout all, and I mean ALL cultures and ethnicities.

  • @azurebadger

    @azurebadger

    Жыл бұрын

    They are also categorically mis informed ignorant political tools without a single sign of a legitimate education beyond the prescriptions of the propaganda of their cult. It is manifest in literally all they say think and do. And there is no refuting it. The causes they fight for are cartoon third rate stereotypical phantoms of their programmed imaginations. They aren’t actually based in fact, and exist nearly entirely in the realm of the old grievances of marxist ideology, as critical theory as put forth in its inception with the frankfurt institute is entirely based on it, as a rehashing of class warfare doctrines. And this is why the class oppressor/oppressed narrative is ubiquitous throughout. In fact so is feminism. Its why they produced intersectionality openly as a new take on marxism for their cause. This is standard material in sociology courses. As they apply class warfare doctrines now featuring race and gender, they attempt to entirely destroy the designated oppressor class, which by no coincidence is a race, an ethnicity, a gender, a people, and their cultures, history, religion. And do so with no other villian in mind, despite that all cultures on this planet, including themselves, have proven distinctly worse in literally all categories historically and presently. The space they manipulate the public in is within their politeness and mental conditioning to insist otherwise despite obvious reality to avoid offense. This too, is religion. Political correctness was invented by mao zedong for this exact purpose. Period

  • @freedomslunch

    @freedomslunch

    Жыл бұрын

    @@azurebadger mic drop

  • @shantishanti1949
    @shantishanti1949 Жыл бұрын

    I am so delighted that this popped up in my feed... I have been trying to find the words to express what has happened in Australia and New Zealand this weekend...

  • @brocktoon8
    @brocktoon8 Жыл бұрын

    "What has woke culture given us? Meghan Markle's podcast." 😂😂😂

  • @maureenchallener1529

    @maureenchallener1529

    Жыл бұрын

    Hypocrites

  • @tonyaughney8945

    @tonyaughney8945

    Жыл бұрын

    Jeremy Clarkson said nothing wrong.

  • @mirandabrunskill7755

    @mirandabrunskill7755

    Жыл бұрын

    The Duchess of Netflix 😅

  • @spotable2

    @spotable2

    9 ай бұрын

    As long as woke means being a desent human being and having empathy...(WHICH IT DOES) and also not being part of Tory"isum"...or beliving msm bull crap (WHICH IT DOES)...then I am extremely pleased to be "woke".

  • @joshuaam7701
    @joshuaam7701 Жыл бұрын

    As a recovering woke individual, it is beyond a breath of fresh air to hear such debates now at the center of stage. I for one support the ideals of the “woke” movement, but have lost faith in the tactics and lack of a concise and clear platform that doesn’t involve canceling or berating people into submission. It is indeed a form of fascism, where the left circle back on themselves.

  • @Solo.Vitality

    @Solo.Vitality

    Жыл бұрын

    By identifying yourself as a 'recovering woke individual' you're not quite recovered yet but I certainly applaud your awareness.

  • @joshuaam7701

    @joshuaam7701

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Solo.Vitality not all “woke” is bad, there are many admirable goals of such ideology. Unfortunately progressive culture has been hijack by extremists which are never good. I was never an extremist as well not all conservative culture is positive, it has its fair share of extremists. To me woke culture is any one who try’s to tell others how to live on both sides of the spectrum.

  • @cozmicorb

    @cozmicorb

    Жыл бұрын

    @Dildo Insaney What a "woke" statement haha Woke is NOT an ideology of compassion, its an ideology of the opposite - HATE who oppose wokeness - fascism through force, manipulation and coercion

  • @myparceltape1169

    @myparceltape1169

    11 ай бұрын

    If a group of people are trying to view others with compassion then I would be better able to listen to them and be more likely to have empathy with them. But students in the late '60's were known for disruptive anti-academic behaviour. Has this gene been passed on to their grandchildren?

  • @dw3403

    @dw3403

    10 ай бұрын

    @@myparceltape1169 Where do you get your understanding of 60's kids? If you are talking about the riots and demonstrations that had nothing to do with education at all. No it would not be passed down in the genes. It would be the cultural changes happening and the schools. I loved school and had no problems with it until the fourth grade. Loved math. But in fourth grade they introduced us to new math. I hated it after that. I had a teacher conference for my son one year. She set in front of me a paper with a sentence on it that was so ridiculous and told me he could not form a sentence like this. I said what kind of a sentence is this? It doesn't make sense. We don't speak like this. She looked at me with a strange look and said it was a sentence formed with key words emphasized for global communication. Here is my understanding of it. Its for global trade with other countries and the keys words standing out like we do on computers for searches. Then she explained to me that he was having problems with his math so they changed it to new math? Of course that perked me up and I asked. What is that? She said, old math. I was ticked.

  • @chris.fyourman2648
    @chris.fyourman2648 Жыл бұрын

    this and Konstantin's speeches are why no-platforming became so popular. Good to see debate taking place. Hope this spreads to other places.

  • @thomasn6523

    @thomasn6523

    Жыл бұрын

    rubbish , why is the commonwealth still in existence?

  • @JesusFriedChrist

    @JesusFriedChrist

    Жыл бұрын

    Uhhhhh did you not also watch James Lindsay’s speech???? It’s the best one of all. He destroys woke culture WHILST BEING ON THEIR SIDE OF THE DEBATE.

  • @andresastudisho
    @andresastudisho Жыл бұрын

    Amazing. I really recommend this book "The Rise of Victimhood Culture: Microaggressions, Safe Spaces, and the New Culture Wars" by Bradley Campbell. It totally explains what the hell is going on at campuses.

  • @imapersonnotanumber8940

    @imapersonnotanumber8940

    4 ай бұрын

    the cancel culture wokes, trail it through Canada, onto now....its just the ease at which wokes slip into their dictator ship roles...

  • @latitudepost
    @latitudepost Жыл бұрын

    I had no idea that Phil Mitchell could be so articulate!

  • @aynrandish9106
    @aynrandish9106 Жыл бұрын

    This guy was very good with the debate topic. His description of woke culture makes me think we need a new debate on what the solution will be to steer humanity back on track to solve the mass mental illness now afflicting most of the western world.

  • @davideldred.campingwilder6481

    @davideldred.campingwilder6481

    Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely NOT. Didn't you notice the cards that he was reading off...With a few hours of practice a night, for a week. Any idiot could acomplish this. In fat, any idiot would be able to do it without the cards...

  • @ic7481

    @ic7481

    Жыл бұрын

    The answer is to go back to our roots - true biblical Christianity. However, everyone knows that will never happen - its morals and teachings "are too problematic" for modern ideas of "morality" and acceptable lifestyles, and it makes people far too uncomfortable about confronting their sins.

  • @MVUK358

    @MVUK358

    Жыл бұрын

    For me it's clear that the promoted use of social media in our society (Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Tiktok) as a 'normal' thing to do every day has messed up a lot of people's mental wellness, without people even realising. Social media can foment addiction (the constant scrolling and stimulation), it promotes polarisation of views, also promotes constant comparison with others and oversharing / lack of boundaries. I have to say my life really changed when I stopped listening to 'the crowd' and stopped using Facebook, Instagram as I felt it was making me compare myself and waste my time focusing on superficial things instead of exploring and developing my own potential which is much more exciting and wholesome!

  • @frosksdeadteeth5163

    @frosksdeadteeth5163

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s all come from the USA, started by Eastern Europeans fleeing antisemitism. The slavery obviously contributed to racial tensions, most countries with multiculturalism cannot be democracies, it’s unusual. The west only managed it due to monoculturalism. Spreading anti-white, anti-european Christian hatred will lead to WW3. This is why the neocons in the US are paranoid. The empire is on its knees.

  • @AngiesDoingIt

    @AngiesDoingIt

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ic7481 Christianity is the reason for your evil, especially in America. White men killed a Black man a few years ago and went to church. See that's what is okay with all of you and then the police patted him on the back and cleaned Ahmaud Aberys blood from him. They would have got away with it, if one of the white men didn't videotape the murder. Murders y'all have been getting away with for years and people remained sleep. There were three murders in LA this week by cops, for no reason other than they were Black men and one was the relative of a BLM creator.

  • @bobg.3206
    @bobg.3206 Жыл бұрын

    The woke way of doing things makes it impossible to take them seriously. We love little children, but we don't let them run the world.

  • @anthonyheaton5798

    @anthonyheaton5798

    Жыл бұрын

    There's Trudeau running Canada.

  • @aranisles8292

    @aranisles8292

    Жыл бұрын

    The cult of the child is strong on the left. They despise themselves, the 'adults' who cause or are complicit in all the evils of the world and believe children and youth have natural insight into 'truth'. They deify their own 'inner child' and elevate actual children like Greta Thunberg. It's at once a sincere belief among the faithful and a cynicism among the manipulators who know a good emotional appeal when they see one.

  • @ddhqj2023

    @ddhqj2023

    Жыл бұрын

    And what exactly do you mean by 'their way of doing things'? Is it possible that you could provide an example?

  • @lasttango7522

    @lasttango7522

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ddhqj2023 Probably the inability to debate in a respectful manner. And in some cases the refusal to stop bullying people. Because esentially that is what cancel culture is. Bullying and destructive behaviour inflicted on another human. Which is reprehensible and disgusting.

  • @bobg.3206

    @bobg.3206

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ddhqj2023 sure, I could give you some examples. Most things are feelings oriented rather than facts, and if the feelings get hurt... Hell hath no fury. If someone disagrees they are immediately labeled phobic. There is no debate or even an option to have an opposing point of view. You are way beyond wrong and the worst person to have ever lived. If you are someone of any notoriety you must be cancelled. It goes on into politics and corporate actions like ESG. They can't withstand anything less than complete compliance. We see cases where it isn't enough to be accepting, you must evangelize for them. It can be an impressive amount of power brought to bear on anyone who hasn't developed the self-confidence or morality to stick to their beliefs. That is how bullies operate and their poor behavior is almost always a result of insecurity. For those who are not swayed by the professionally offended it's a little embarrassing. You feel bad for them because they are so childish, laying there on the floor throwing a fit. They just found out Santa isn't real and rather than deal with the truth they're furious that you told them, as if their anger will make him real.

  • @Antiestabbarood
    @Antiestabbarood Жыл бұрын

    I am a liberal amd mostly agree with historic disadvantage, but man has the new Woke society got me undone

  • @ioio8021
    @ioio8021 Жыл бұрын

    It gives hope to see there are still reasonable people out there.

  • @alkismavridis1
    @alkismavridis1 Жыл бұрын

    I have never seen a more thought and language policing, authoritarian group of people than the trans activists. They have gone far beyond the "live and let live" line and thus, lost my sympathy and support. Making enemies from people that could be your allies seems like a very bad strategy. They deserve every bit of the backlash they get.

  • @claireika

    @claireika

    Жыл бұрын

    Well said. They have made life very difficult for their truly gender dysphoric brothers and sisters.

  • @GFSagredo

    @GFSagredo

    Жыл бұрын

    I fully agree. For me most woke people do not really care about the principles they claim to advocate. It is all really about their ego and self-promotion on the media and in society. Average people that do in fact support those causes without a self-promotion agenda just get pushed out of the debate for not using the 'right' words in spite of sincere feelings of support. The wokes' folly thus alienates the very people they would have all the interest in keeping on their side. Utter malevolence and counterproductive approach.

  • @tancho103

    @tancho103

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree. And I'm guessing it could be something to do with the fact that a good portion of people in this movement are twisted men who want to legally get into women's changing rooms and toilets for purely deviant sexual gratification reasons - and that is a very strong driving force.

  • @silaswild6233

    @silaswild6233

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tancho103 And what about twisted women who want to get into mens changing rooms?

  • @mrboost4186

    @mrboost4186

    Жыл бұрын

    @@silaswild6233 A mythical creature most men wish existed

  • @mogznwaz
    @mogznwaz Жыл бұрын

    The Victorian era and the period of the British empire produced more technological scientific and social changes than any other in history. The flushing toilet, the Underground, corporate philanthropy, the Vote, the abolition of slavery, medicine, social mobility, museums, literature, public parks, and so much more. It wasn’t perfect for sure but it laid so many foundations for the things we take for granted today. The fact that so many young people are so utterly ignorant but also actively hostile towards Britain and western civilisation generally is a disgrace.

  • @georgejessup7938

    @georgejessup7938

    Жыл бұрын

    The vote? Are you suggesting that the British empire is responsible for voting? Or is it something more specific?

  • @enterprisingdrop3226

    @enterprisingdrop3226

    Жыл бұрын

    The British Empire abolished slavery? It created it first!

  • @x2Madda

    @x2Madda

    Жыл бұрын

    @@georgejessup7938 Not just the vote according to them but museums, lierature and MEDICINE as well?! The fact they then go on to complain that the youth of today are ignorant of history is absolutely astounding! I can't tell if their post is serious or sarcasm.

  • @queengoblin

    @queengoblin

    Жыл бұрын

    @@x2Madda your reading comprehension not so good. :( Very sad state of affairs. This person was clearly not saying ALL literature and medicine. My goodness!

  • @hanuman3527

    @hanuman3527

    Жыл бұрын

    Yay for pirate rock. Steal enough from around the world and you too can have nice things.

  • @USprotector
    @USprotector Жыл бұрын

    As an American this was Amazing to hear! ⭐️🌎

  • @michaelart4878
    @michaelart4878 Жыл бұрын

    🙌BLESSED BE THE NAME OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST🙌GLORY BE TO GOD🙌ALLELUIA🙌A-MEN'🌿

  • @spanglestein66
    @spanglestein66 Жыл бұрын

    When I first heard the term woke around 2 years ago ( I may have been slow to catch on ) Initially I had to ask quite a few friends and colleagues what it meant & at first I had to question am I woke ? But now strangely I feel that I have been pushed further and further to the right . This has clarified that all along I was ( 2 years ago ) fairly balanced in my social and political outlook but mainly in defence of all I hold dear I am on the right and as a consequence far less tolerant Let us hope that this woke nonsense dissipates so we can all get a firm grounding in common sense and reason once again ❤

  • @SalemikTUBE

    @SalemikTUBE

    Жыл бұрын

    That's exactly how I feel. I've always tried to be reasonable and fair but what is going on is driving me hard to the right.

  • @Discoveryman29

    @Discoveryman29

    Жыл бұрын

    Im considered a centrist myself years ago but now the woke make me a right leaner unconditionally

  • @charlytaylor1748

    @charlytaylor1748

    Жыл бұрын

    Not just you. The Left used to be about the working classes and fair wealth distribution. Now it's just a nut house. Where to go?

  • @big_goat

    @big_goat

    Жыл бұрын

    You know whats crazy, "woke" has been around for over 2 decades. It was used to describe a person who had knowledge of corrupt govt and its history. Now govt has stolen it and uses it as a weapon against conservatives.

  • @deplorabledave1048

    @deplorabledave1048

    Жыл бұрын

    There is no longer any CENTER. You have two choices now. Right wing conservatives AKA Nazis according to the Left., or bat shit crazy radical woke Leftist. There is NO MIDDLE ground. I have proven this to scores of people who insist they are still Centrists. That USED to be a stance. Not anymore. You got the Sane on the Right and the Sociopathic Insane on the Left.

  • @izzyplant8428
    @izzyplant8428 Жыл бұрын

    Toby Young. Thank you.

  • @robertcottam8824

    @robertcottam8824

    Жыл бұрын

    I absolutely agree. As an example of specious, otiose vacuity, it's priceless. I shall use it in seminars as discrete as structuralism and linguistics. He's a dreadful orator except in the most base, populist sense. He's way too old for fourth form debating society. Best wishes

  • @douglashartfilm

    @douglashartfilm

    Жыл бұрын

    This pea brain is so cultured and eloquent that he doesn’t even know the difference between the the Sistine Chapel and what he calls at 1.33 “the Cistern Chapel “. God save us from idiots like him 🙏

  • @gerryjohnson294
    @gerryjohnson294 Жыл бұрын

    How rude the woman was for interrupting his speech. How refreshing to hear logic. Thankyou sir.

  • @kallewirsch2263
    @kallewirsch2263 Жыл бұрын

    My father used to say: In whetever you do, there is a point where things only get worse.

  • @rjflores438
    @rjflores438 Жыл бұрын

    A few months ago, I spoke to a privately educated university student protesting about how women are oppressed in British society whilst I was walking through Manchester City Centre. She was young, probably about 20 years old, she was also extremely well spoken and what I would call a posh hipster. Dont get me wrong, I have adopted some hipster fashion myself, but I digress. Anyway, she started arguing with me about how herself as a women had a harder time and how she was oppressed by men in British society. But 2 things stuck out like a sore thumb for me with her as an individual, she went on to tell me she was from a private school in the shires down south and was studying History of Art at uni, she was also a very attractive women who probably wouldnt have dated me in a million years, despite the fact I am not a bad looking guy, I just happen to have grown up on an inner city council estate in Manchester, not far from Manchester University, and here was a woman at only 20 years old, that already had more status, cultural capital, economic capital and the ability to date pretty much any man in the City, and who most definitely had more access to what the city had to offer than a man, white, black or asian, that grew up in the council estates of Moss Side, Hulme, Ardwick and Gorton, which are within 2 miles of the University of Manchester, where many of these posh upper middle class women from private schools down south make their own. Are they sipping cappuccinos and eating avocado on toast with normal working class Mancunians, I dont think so! She was blind to the privilege she had over the vast majority of men, and other women for that matter.

  • @DANFORTHPAPE1

    @DANFORTHPAPE1

    Жыл бұрын

    I hope you told her all of what you've written down here. More to the point, did you point out to her how lives for women have changed over the past 100 years? 50 or 60 years ago women had virtually no independence, including financially. Now they've got so much they don't know they're born.

  • @trudyharding4277

    @trudyharding4277

    Жыл бұрын

    It's Greedyness that makes us al forget how privileged we are no matter what level of society we are in. There is always someone less fortunate than yourself! I am also guilty at times and to know your history and roots your I,me and myself gets to equal levels without victimhood & irritating everyone around u

  • @Mortred99
    @Mortred99 Жыл бұрын

    "Oxymoron, a contradiction in terms like... Military Intelligence." Ah, a classic.

  • @patthewoodboy

    @patthewoodboy

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Robert-Downey-Syndrome like Police intelligence 🙂

  • @Robert-Downey-Syndrome

    @Robert-Downey-Syndrome

    Жыл бұрын

    'Military intelligence, two words combined that can't make sense.' - D. Mustaine

  • @blaizerhodes

    @blaizerhodes

    Жыл бұрын

    I feel this is a little unfair.. just because war is generally insane.. once you're fighting it you can do so intelligently.

  • @conradcodfish8638

    @conradcodfish8638

    Жыл бұрын

    I love War, it culls and exposes the weak.

  • @davideldred.campingwilder6481

    @davideldred.campingwilder6481

    Жыл бұрын

    @@conradcodfish8638 you'd be dead, then...

  • @senturi9645
    @senturi96454 ай бұрын

    Very very refreshing and realistic ❤

  • @matthewmoggridge5221
    @matthewmoggridge5221 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent speech by Toby Young, a man I have a lot of respect for as he has put forward a reasoned and outspoken point of view, as he always does. I would, incidentally, highly recommend Toby's book, published some time ago now, entitled How to Lose Friends and Alienate People, about his time on Vanity Fair magazine.

  • @kurtcobain3426
    @kurtcobain3426 Жыл бұрын

    Well said. Makes me sad how today patriotism in the UK is considered a negative thing by so many people. I'm proud of my country and what's its achieved! 🇬🇧

  • @mattoniy2840

    @mattoniy2840

    Жыл бұрын

    Many still are mate. Just not on socials

  • @neil8lin

    @neil8lin

    Жыл бұрын

    Same here in the US.

  • @thoughtsfromnh364

    @thoughtsfromnh364

    Жыл бұрын

    As a history buff, the England in 1940-1945 wouldn't recognize this England today.

  • @TM-rc3ck

    @TM-rc3ck

    Жыл бұрын

    Most are.

  • @MrakS

    @MrakS

    Жыл бұрын

    So am I. But that makes me passionate about making it better. You're not proud of the Met police officer convicted of all those terrible things, are you? We're not proud of the fact that all the millionaires and billionaires have got much richer and yet there are hungry children, are we? Or that Lady from the House of Lords who pushed for the company that supplied faulty protective gowns and got paid £10 million? Those things shame my beautiful country. They have to be stamped on.

  • @TheArcturusProject
    @TheArcturusProject Жыл бұрын

    Well said. We need things like this that can be shared to people who still have any moral integrity, but aren’t sure how to properly exercise that ability

  • @adejokeloye

    @adejokeloye

    Жыл бұрын

    You mean people who have not been perverted.

  • @tcrown3333
    @tcrown3333 Жыл бұрын

    I have a growing respect and admiration for this man.

  • @philippeters5079
    @philippeters5079 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent research. Sydney Australia

  • @UKtoUSABrit
    @UKtoUSABrit Жыл бұрын

    Agree w Toby Young's speech 💯 per cent. Very well said.

  • @AYouTubeCommenterWhoHasABrain

    @AYouTubeCommenterWhoHasABrain

    Жыл бұрын

    Especially his praise of "the cistern chapel" 1:24

  • @morbidbushido

    @morbidbushido

    Жыл бұрын

    It almost doesnt seem fair when I listen to this debates, why do the Woke supporting side never send their best? Almost every debate Ive watched about the clash of these ideas the Woke side are quite cringe, lie, insult or debate a different topic entirely. Recently the Matt Taibi and Gladwell debate was painful to watch...and I respect them.

  • @JSManc1

    @JSManc1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@morbidbushidoI think they do. The issue is their proposition is so inherently flawed.

  • @Ondemas

    @Ondemas

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AKZreadCommenterWhoHasABrain ah, the Cisterf chapel. Our greatest bastion.

  • @lil-g4879

    @lil-g4879

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JSManc1 can you give examples of where their beliefs are flawed?

  • @lilbullet158
    @lilbullet158 Жыл бұрын

    The time has come where those who make accusations such as : *_"You are a Racist"_* should be made to Prove that accusation. If they cannot Prove their accusation they should face Justice. For example, if a person is found to be Guilty of being a 'Racist receives 6 months imprisonment on the evidence of his 'Accuser', then their accuser should get 6 months imprisonment if their accusation is proven unfounded. As things are at the moment people can make that Vile accusation at will and Ruin lives without a shred of proof. That *Has to Stop !*

  • @Ondemas

    @Ondemas

    Жыл бұрын

    It's easy to make up accusations when you blame individuals for social structures.

  • @drfell9105

    @drfell9105

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank god you have ablsolutely no power to affect anything meaningful because you are a fucking moron.

  • @lilbullet158

    @lilbullet158

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Ondemas Yes, too easy and it is about time people who make that particular accusation were Brought to book and be made to explain and defend their accusation.

  • @peterkoch3777

    @peterkoch3777

    Жыл бұрын

    We've become weak. When our grandfather had uttered this sentence, his opponent would have replied "your race in particular" and beat the shit out of him.

  • @lilbullet158

    @lilbullet158

    Жыл бұрын

    It is extremely easy to spot a Fascist. They're the one accusing people of being 'Fascist'. Likewise it's easy to spot a Racist they are the ones accusing people of being 'Racist'. They do it to create a Smokescreen to hide what they are and how they feel. They know precisely what they are and their 'INNER GUILT' is also the reason why they become so hysterical so easily. Blaming other people is a *Misdirection tactic* that helps them live with themselves... Ask Any Police Officer and they will tell you that 'Criminals' do Exactly the same thing to hide their Guilt.

  • @LusciousTwinkle
    @LusciousTwinkle Жыл бұрын

    So coooooool answering the Northern Ireland question...

  • @stevenunua2118
    @stevenunua2118 Жыл бұрын

    I have developed a whole new level of respect for the Brits and their parliaments. I love that statement freedom is not freedom from consequence, that should be added to our constitution,

  • @farcenter
    @farcenter Жыл бұрын

    4:48 this is the problem. It's not all about you. The fact that she's sitting there, and interrupts and is allowed to go on says "privilege" more than anything else could really

  • @philosonic

    @philosonic

    Жыл бұрын

    It is normal in debating societies for people in the audience to raise their hand (or stand up) to make remark or ask a question during a speech. This is a common privilege for audience members in debating societies all around the world. Ultimately, it is up to the speaker if they wish to acknowledge the audience member. He clearly acknowledged her presence and allowed her to speak.

  • @arcadealchemist

    @arcadealchemist

    Жыл бұрын

    yeh there is a huge amount of young adults with narcissistic personality disorder or equivlent self obsessive need to address a CRT level of questioning like trying to make you think about something then feel guilty for not understanding and it really derails debates if you allow people like this to hog all the o2 in the room.

  • @w.urlitzer1869

    @w.urlitzer1869

    Жыл бұрын

    I disagree. it was a quite civil exchange.

  • @farcenter

    @farcenter

    Жыл бұрын

    @@philosonic Fair. I didn't know the decorum. While it was not to my own taste, if this is the norm, I stand corrected.

  • @sonnythesnowball

    @sonnythesnowball

    Жыл бұрын

    @@philosonic The problem is, left wing pricks NEVER exhibit the same courtesy or human decency. The left, and their fanatical followers, would much rather have anyone that questions them to be dismantled from the platform entirely. Thankfully, though, the internet is DESTROYING the left! LOL!!!!!

  • @bobstar2683
    @bobstar2683 Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely spot on.

  • @kellywright540
    @kellywright540 Жыл бұрын

    Amen Toby, AMEN!!

  • @NickRavenscroft
    @NickRavenscroft Жыл бұрын

    A sterling job Toby - you're a brave and honorable man.

  • @dannyarcher6370
    @dannyarcher6370 Жыл бұрын

    2:54 - _In fact, let's quibble._ Proceeds to deliver a quiet quartering. You do have to love the British tendency to understate.

  • @Mucklehorn

    @Mucklehorn

    Жыл бұрын

    'A quiet quartering', that's a great phrase.

  • @tmgmagdalena4138

    @tmgmagdalena4138

    Жыл бұрын

    Indeed!

  • @ivx8345
    @ivx8345 Жыл бұрын

    Oxford showing it's class.

  • @MrBiddy1975

    @MrBiddy1975

    Жыл бұрын

    Where?

  • @ariellemandara1483

    @ariellemandara1483

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MrBiddy1975 Did you not watch the video?

  • @dickyt1318
    @dickyt1318 Жыл бұрын

    THAT WAS A VERY GOOD, FAIR & BALANCED SPEECH

  • @IPv6people
    @IPv6people Жыл бұрын

    This should have tens of millions views instead of hundreds of thousands. Not a single statement in this speech that doesn't make sense.

  • @marypoppins0169
    @marypoppins0169 Жыл бұрын

    Wow Toby Young you put the point across in such an intelligent, elegant way , that is exactly how the majority of the British public feel, we don't want to NOT have a discussion on the topics of race,gender, but will not tolerate the intolerance of the mob that refuses to hear both sides of the debate. We as a country regardless of race, gender, beliefs would love nothing more than to resolve the injustices that our fellow citizens are going through or have been through, but NOT at the cost of further hate,discrimination, racism or ignorance, that will NEVER change anything.

  • @sickoftheleftwingscum
    @sickoftheleftwingscum Жыл бұрын

    Real intelligence at work from Toby Young ! 👍

  • @TerryRobertson

    @TerryRobertson

    Жыл бұрын

    Were there two Toby Youngs speaking? I must have missed the intelligent one.

  • @4june9140

    @4june9140

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TerryRobertson Try listening with an open mind

  • @katief.1696
    @katief.1696 Жыл бұрын

    The woke tactics and mentality is how the Salem Witch Trials was so popular.

  • @schejoha1

    @schejoha1

    Ай бұрын

    And maos culure revolution

  • @MissZ-on3wc
    @MissZ-on3wc11 ай бұрын

    just awesome, i wish this will go viral and over TV so that everyone can hear the truth

  • @patriciasanderson2171
    @patriciasanderson2171 Жыл бұрын

    The problem I have with “wokeness” is that more often than not it is not based on facts, is inaccurate and seems to be a bunch of angry activists who just follow whatever movement is the latest flavour but ignore even more pressing topics in society.

  • @trudyharding4277

    @trudyharding4277

    Жыл бұрын

    To me activists have a course a reason and a goal. Wokers don't have any of these that is why the stand and scream putting out tantrums coz they actually don't have an outcome in mind a result they have a vague idea of the me wants and a few years from now it is going to be the same baseless/ no root connection lost souls wanting to sue anybody & everything for not stopping them in their damaged idiotic me-me wants.

  • @imapersonnotanumber8940

    @imapersonnotanumber8940

    4 ай бұрын

    and are aggressive, hypocritical and double flip narratives....ive been attacked for even trying to defend their honor ( without knowing_ and I was slaughtered....they create a binary narrative that they flip, you cant argue...best thing to do is let the idiot speak...and walk away....unfortunately it is where the money is in the uk.......I cant even believe how some of them young and old, usually the ones that they think are the left wing intelligentsia, grabbed it with so much enthusiasm, evil...

  • @rigavitch
    @rigavitch Жыл бұрын

    Where's Douglas Murray? Bravo though to all 🙏🏼👏🏻

  • @jumblestiltskin1365

    @jumblestiltskin1365

    Жыл бұрын

    Love see him in a debate again here

  • @tagus100

    @tagus100

    Жыл бұрын

    Douglas Murray and Andrew Doyle would've been a massacre lmao!

  • @lewreed1871

    @lewreed1871

    Жыл бұрын

    Looking in a mirror preening himself somewhere in the States.

  • @sylaq1151

    @sylaq1151

    Жыл бұрын

    Murray is being a professional limey on Fox in the US.

  • @lewreed1871

    @lewreed1871

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sylaq1151 He's doing his best to pull a Christopher Hitchens. So far he's doing well on the basis of nothing more than his accent. He's not a heavyweight. Bit of a poser.

  • @gefparx6442
    @gefparx6442 Жыл бұрын

    WOW . Toby has articulated all the feeling and intuition on the subject of wokeness that this lesser mortal would like to express !. The World was in a much better place before the divisive tactics of the far left .

  • @romanthwaghmarae6032
    @romanthwaghmarae6032 Жыл бұрын

    GREAT LISTENING - MORE SANE THAN WHAT I AM SEEING TODAY - PLEASE POST MORE VIDEOS OF THE OXFORD UNION DEBATES ETC..

  • @albertezratty4861
    @albertezratty4861 Жыл бұрын

    Woke is just another "smelly orthodoxy."

  • @DJWESG1

    @DJWESG1

    Жыл бұрын

    The only ppl banging on about it are rightwing freaks.

  • @cyruspersia3436
    @cyruspersia3436 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Mr. Young for your clarity, courage, and congruence. I was born in Iran, you raised the issue of the brave Iranian women who are selflessly fighting the hordes of ignorance and darkness.

  • @markoshea6833

    @markoshea6833

    Жыл бұрын

    I believe the Modern World is characterised by ' the hordes of ignorance and darkness'. Iranian women should be happy to have a Life of shac- and-vac. Women are con-artists, when they say, that there is a benefit-of-them in the employment world.

  • @Rayblondie
    @Rayblondie Жыл бұрын

    What a brilliant speaker. I haven't hear anyone that can polically dissect truth like he can.

  • @gandydancerfilms6272
    @gandydancerfilms6272 Жыл бұрын

    Well done Toby.

  • @izzyplant8428
    @izzyplant8428 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Toby Young. You flower in the WOKE wilderness. God grant you see the wilderness flower.

  • @mangarang
    @mangarang Жыл бұрын

    It is generally clever, from the standpoint of winning a debate, to claim agreement with the ends of the opposing side. In this instance, it is not accurate and potentially weakens the anti-woke position. Equality of outcome and the primacy of group identity over the sovereignty of the individual are the two sacred pillars of woke culture upon which the utopian vision of their ends are built. No free thinking true liberal should ever claim agreement with those ends. They are not laudable, they are in fact antithetical to everything that has made Western civilization possible and flourish.

  • @SalemikTUBE

    @SalemikTUBE

    Жыл бұрын

    I thought that also. They will never force me to agree with their insane world view.

  • @embecmom5863

    @embecmom5863

    Жыл бұрын

    agreed, once you agree with their ideology then it immediately suggest their actions are right, and then we run into a situation where everything that offends must be right thus must be removed.

  • @aranisles8292

    @aranisles8292

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes. It's a mistake to agree with the 'ends' and disagree with the means. The means themselves decimate the ends of a liberal society. Are they suddenly going to go back to supporting free speech when their putative goals are met?

  • @rashomonsan

    @rashomonsan

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree, don't accept their framing. That's how they achieve transitional demands, and what brought us to our current state, where so-called conservatives brag about how diverse they are and how men can be women.

  • @pheel7142

    @pheel7142

    Жыл бұрын

    I interpreted it as him just understanding the humanity of being/feeling oppressed as part of a minority, not that he agrees with the total twisted agenda it has become.. intentional or otherwise. Either way we all know it’s been overly represented now.

  • @jeffb5785
    @jeffb5785 Жыл бұрын

    I used to support the so-called oppressed but when they gain acceptance and equality they don't seem to appreciate it and decide to become the oppressors. They no longer have my support or sympathy, I loath those that took this attitude.

  • @antonioskokiantonis7051
    @antonioskokiantonis7051 Жыл бұрын

    That is the ideal way of communicating our issues! Great speech, agree or disagreeing, with his points, shouldn't make any difference!

  • @manusha1349
    @manusha1349 Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant 👏🏽

  • @audramihalovits4715
    @audramihalovits4715 Жыл бұрын

    I literally clapped and cheered. Share, share, share!

  • @sratus

    @sratus

    Жыл бұрын

    You literally clapped and cheered. Fucking bizarre lol.

  • @jamesw2414
    @jamesw2414 Жыл бұрын

    Great speech Toby!

  • @daylight44ful
    @daylight44ful Жыл бұрын

    Excellent Speech. True to his Word.

  • @meadmaker4525
    @meadmaker4525 Жыл бұрын

    Really interesting speech. Here in the U.S., where the woke "mob" seems particularly prevalent, it's worth mentioning that most people you meet on the street wouldn't be able to tell you what woke actually means, rather just express their distaste for it and their association of it with "the left" or "liberalism." The points in this speech were all really pretty good, but one of the biggest takeaways for me is the categorization and identification of woke itself, and explaining why it's so harmful despite the underlying intent. That's no small thing, because the scope of hate and blame-mongering within woke is fairly vast at this point. Educators and students censoring themselves should be a warning bell, but I think most are ignoring it, which is possibly the absolute worst thing we could do. Ignoring the situation enables those who identify as woke to go further, to do more to harm, censor and cancel those who would dare speak against them. And as correctly mentioned in this speech, if one dares to attempt to engage with a woke individual in some sort of intelligent discourse about the topic, the effort will typically be met with vitriol and name calling, essentially a tantrum where screaming obscenities will surely make the logical person just walk away and thus allowing the woke individual to "win." Which begs the question: If there's no real logical argument fueling woke, but rather some sort of quest for victim-hood, why are we allowing it to run rampant and cause so much harm?

  • @northshorepx

    @northshorepx

    Жыл бұрын

    You make interesting points. The way I see it, is that both sides appear polarised. You have quasi facism masquerading as extreme conservatism, and quasi fascism masquerading as what people call extreme woke culture. The common thing about both is their inability engage in dialogue and debate in good faith. You can see the use of force, shouting down other opinions, and engaging in "canceling", censoring the public debate, censoring books from the extreme sides to this debate. I believe that what's happening here what we saw in the early 20th century with the democratisation of some new media (then is was easier printing of newsletters/papers and radio, now it's social media over the internet) leading to the voices of the extremes being magnified way above the voices of the calm majority on both sides of the debate. As Toby said rightly here, and I've never been a fan f his, is there are laudable aims in many of the movement that are attempting to redress imbalances in society, but the extremes are using these as battlegrounds, and not as places where we can work together to fix issues.

  • @myparceltape1169

    @myparceltape1169

    11 ай бұрын

    Academic censorship is rather a bad thing. But are some of those troublesome students possibly grandchildren of the flower people?

  • @TheSmithsons
    @TheSmithsons Жыл бұрын

    How Beautiful is the sound of Truth

  • @pif5023
    @pif5023 Жыл бұрын

    These are the words people need to hear today

  • @auntieangegaming9758
    @auntieangegaming9758 Жыл бұрын

    Spot on

  • @susiwakeman4271
    @susiwakeman4271 Жыл бұрын

    Always love the wisdom of Toby Young x thank you, much love and God bless from the UK xx

  • @immanuelcan3310
    @immanuelcan3310 Жыл бұрын

    For the Woke, persuasion's not the point. They don't think it's actually possible. They think they, and anyone speaking to them, is primarily a product of social conditioning, not primarily a free, deciding agent. And conversation is thus a power-conflict between antagonistic forces, not an attempt to woo a potential decider to one's view. There is no fair player, and no potential friend in one's interlocutor. There is only a power-seeker. The goal in seeming-conversation, then, is to assert one's own power vigorously enough to conquer the power the opposition is trying to use...but truth, reason and conversation are mere seemings in this game: the Nietzschean, Foucaultean use of power is the deep truth of everything that's going on, they believe. Naturally, they must bully adversaries, rather than converse with respected others.

  • @aranisles8292

    @aranisles8292

    Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely right. Which also explains for them the malleability of language. As a tool of power rather than reason, words are marshaled to mean whatever they want them to mean. And new words too are created that they insist are the correct 'lens' with which to understand the world, words like 'cis gender'.

  • @hardtofindrecords763
    @hardtofindrecords763 Жыл бұрын

    The fact that this is even debated in Oxford Union is unbelievable to me.

  • @markkerr350
    @markkerr350 Жыл бұрын

    Always massive respect to JRM, the man never takes any expenses

  • @westfieldartworks8188
    @westfieldartworks8188 Жыл бұрын

    This man nailed it....boy did he ever!!

  • @leem4203
    @leem4203 Жыл бұрын

    Couldn’t agree more. I’m liberal and have always voted left. However, this new brand of far-left “activism” seeks liberal ends by abandoning liberal means, but unfortunately we live in the means. We live in the tension, the figuring out, and it is within that environment that the principles of HOW we conduct ourselves define where we stand in the eyes of history.

  • @briannemeth9417

    @briannemeth9417

    Жыл бұрын

    What a joke! You paint liberal societal norms, norms that evolved out of care and inclusion, and paint them with the same brush as UltraMaga controlling voters with fake media like Fox. The two are not even close

  • @ddhqj2023

    @ddhqj2023

    Жыл бұрын

    What far left activism? You folks who discuss this seem to deal in generalities. Is this so that you can never be held to a statement you've made?

  • @StrategicWealthLLC

    @StrategicWealthLLC

    Жыл бұрын

    Your “liberal means” comment is very well said. As a libertarian-conservative, I sincerely ask you to ponder your point with respect to nationalized health care, gay marriage, etc. I support the ends, but not the means.

  • @JesusFriedChrist

    @JesusFriedChrist

    Жыл бұрын

    If you’re liberal, and you’ve always voted left, then you’ve always voted *against* liberalism. The left is not only NOT liberal, they are ILLIBERAL. The left is the ANTITHESIS of liberal. Liberal is based on individualism. Individualism = right wing. Leftism is based on collectivism. Collectivism = left wing. Individualism = the OPPOSITE of Collectivism Liberalism is the OPPOSITE of the left. If you’re a liberal, then vote ACTUAL LIBERAL, and stop voting ILLIBERAL.

  • @waynecassels3607
    @waynecassels3607 Жыл бұрын

    Well done! Thank you for factual and rational truth.

  • @thegeneralist7527
    @thegeneralist7527 Жыл бұрын

    Freedom is the foundation of all civilized society.

  • @zakris
    @zakris Жыл бұрын

    Finally, finally, FINALLY we are speaking up against the fascist wokeness

  • @jackdubz4247

    @jackdubz4247

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, because nobody has grunted "woke!" before now.

  • @zakris

    @zakris

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jackdubz4247 You're right 🤣

  • @craighart9278
    @craighart9278 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent.

  • @RepublicofAmericanDemocracy
    @RepublicofAmericanDemocracy Жыл бұрын

    Great speech! I love America.

  • @robertrussell2202
    @robertrussell22029 ай бұрын

    Fantastic speech Toby

  • @doilysimpkin6972
    @doilysimpkin6972 Жыл бұрын

    "Cystern Chapel"...now there's a Freudian slip if ever I heard one 🤣

  • @Swedeninthahood
    @Swedeninthahood Жыл бұрын

    This should go viral

  • @Berry-fr5wj

    @Berry-fr5wj

    Жыл бұрын

    the revolution will not be televised

  • @jayneemcdonald1697
    @jayneemcdonald1697 Жыл бұрын

    I adore the Oxford Union! And this topic is so timely. I just read about the calls for the banning of "Natural Woman" by Aretha Franklin! It's ARETHA, the Queen of Soul! Absolute absurdity.

  • @stevenwright7290
    @stevenwright7290 Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant as usual from Toby

  • @markmclean4144
    @markmclean4144 Жыл бұрын

    A friend of mine went to Starbucks last week and he ordered for his wife and the employee was offended and try to correct him by saying his partner...WOW.🇨🇦

  • @rustshoo5068

    @rustshoo5068

    Жыл бұрын

    What if they had JUST been married?

  • @lowflyingpigeons2170

    @lowflyingpigeons2170

    Жыл бұрын

    Canada is the twilight zone of woke nonsense. Did your friend stick up for himself or go on his way and just accept it? That’s a huge issue in Canada not fighting back. Accept the Justin juice and shut up. Enough is enough.

  • @WaaDoku
    @WaaDoku Жыл бұрын

    Why are the ones who oppose "being well informed, up-to-date, and alert to racial or social discrimination and injustice"* so much more eloquent, up-to-date, and better informed than the ones advocating for said Wokeism? * definition of "woke", as cited from Oxford dictionary by Alex Jackson

  • @aranisles8292

    @aranisles8292

    Жыл бұрын

    They are more keenly aware of what's at stake. With woke so ascendant, they have to be especially persuasive if they're going to move the needle even a little bit. Fighting for one's life does tend to sharpen the mind.

  • @chinmaysangoram
    @chinmaysangoram Жыл бұрын

    The world is becoming a group of individuals upholding their individual uniqueness rather than understanding and bridging the gap between their uniqueness and that of an other(s)... It is only these bridges that will keep the world (of individuals) well connected.. Whether it's race, gender, sexual orientation/preferences, religion, culture, language, nationality, or any other trait that separates one individual from all others.. Uniqueness is a quintessential trait of human beings.. What we've done is organise this uniqueness in a heirarchy rather than walking hand in hand..

  • @southpacific222

    @southpacific222

    Жыл бұрын

    Well said

  • @jimbanda
    @jimbanda Жыл бұрын

    The North of Ireland is hardly an issue during a debate on "woke" .

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