Boomer bends ❌ Guitar virtuoso ❌ Caveman riffs ✅

@morbidanimal333

26 күн бұрын

Slam 🔝

@alrecks619

26 күн бұрын

unga bunga growls ✅✅✅

@oatmeal710

26 күн бұрын

what about caveman riffs with boomer bends, like electric wizard

@BababooeyGooey

26 күн бұрын

Paleorock

@Patrick-857

26 күн бұрын

Yes.

Zoomer here to say Boomer bends fucking rock. They overused that technique so much because it kicks ass.

@losfogo7149

25 күн бұрын

in 40 years we'll have joomers saying we should stop tapping and will be reinventing the Gilmour bend

@theCGIANIMA

24 күн бұрын

@@losfogo7149 pretty much yeah, but it'll be sooner than that. Gotta make up for Moore's Law and all, and also we're just progressing faster with communication developments. I predict that the Gilmour Bend will actually be recreated on an instrument other than the guitar which will reinvigorate the interest in bends and glissando.

@losfogo7149

23 күн бұрын

@@theCGIANIMA Gilmour Plugin on Ableton that turns the MIDI input into a two times longer pink Floyd solo

@theCGIANIMA

23 күн бұрын

@@losfogo7149 Also, it sings "I'm better than you and you know it" as it solos unless you pass the social credit check at the paygate on the plugin itself.

@peoplespoet1974

23 күн бұрын

Facts. I use them SOMETIMES...it's like a spice you have to use carefully when doing a solo 'soup'.

anyone who thinks that overly complicated shreddy guitar music is a new thing should check out old classical guitar pieces.

@Chiller11

26 күн бұрын

Flamenco is even shreddier.

@GammaFields

19 күн бұрын

If anybody likes classical guitar shredding, I'de suggest looking up Kazuhito Yamashita's transcription of Pictures at an Exhibition - Mussorgsky

@-Zontar-

18 күн бұрын

The first page of “Capricho Arabe” by Francisco Terrega comes to mind. Long runs of 16th and 32nd notes that sounds like something Satriani would’ve played if he were alive in the 19th century 😂

@ImnotgoingSideways

17 күн бұрын

@@Chiller11 That is precisely what came to my mind when I started listening to their stuff. 20 seconds into listening to "Playing God" my brain immediately went 'this is electric Flamenco'.

@SHUTDOWNOfficial

17 күн бұрын

Listen to Sabicas' "Carcelera: Reflejo Andaluz". You may have heard it before if you play Counter-Strike.

Bro really put the entire history of music at the start

@tommyakesson8858

26 күн бұрын

Coolea might not be sure how old boomers are exactly so he covered all the bases

@ghost_to_a_ghost

26 күн бұрын

Coolea has been on a fuckin rip lately with these uploads 😎

@TheHippie27

26 күн бұрын

I dunno, zero mention of the entire jazz movement, whcih arguably went through the exact same technicality arc that inevitably led to it falling out of favour. bebop legends like charlie parker and john coltrane were arguably the tosin abasis of the jazz world, and I think that both art forms led to an alienation of the audience, which results in a generation rebelling against the technical mastery and going back to the fundamentals.

@bluglass7819

26 күн бұрын

He missed a lot..

@DeltresePshanks

25 күн бұрын

Comment without using the word "bro." Be original

Something I think a lot of people get wrong is that music theory is not ''this is good and you shouldn't do anything else'' is a ''these things sound good and many people have been using them for a long time. Now, do whatever you want and use me as a tool''

@IdkwhoIam8218

26 күн бұрын

Exactly why I hate classical music nerds

@Rukiman_no16

26 күн бұрын

@@IdkwhoIam8218 Why?

@IdkwhoIam8218

26 күн бұрын

@@Rukiman_no16 the music theory crap

@bottlemanic

26 күн бұрын

I think you missed his point entirely. Theory is a tool to help you achieve what you're trying to say. A vocabulary to help you pick the right words to construct a coherent sentence rather than just speaking from the heart and tripping over your words until you get it right ​@IdkwhoIam8218

@IdkwhoIam8218

26 күн бұрын

@@bottlemanic I’m talking about the people who act like music theory is the most important thing in a song and without it the song is bad (Ben Shapiro)

My personal take is I don't care how fast or slow or technical or simple a guitarist plays. If I can feel it, that's all that matters.

@ScienceBabbleMusic

25 күн бұрын

Exactly!

@Snyperwolf91

24 күн бұрын

What if you got the feelings of diarhea ? Its just a joke .

@tmamone83

24 күн бұрын

@@Snyperwolf91 When a guitarist discovers the brown note. 😆

@gdakmusic

23 күн бұрын

Well said

@Jesus_rrs

21 күн бұрын

You also need to keep in mind that music, it's also an acquired taste. You learn to like things and some things are easier to like than others. That's why pop music appeals to more people, not because it has 'more soul/feel'

tim henson never said boomer bends as a derogative thing, he just called it that because the technique was popular with that generation and because of the alliteration, tim henson actually likes boomer bends

@farrex0

7 күн бұрын

Yeah, I actually dislike how many people like the one on this video, intentionally misinterpret what Hensen said to create views, drama and outrage. And then say things like "oh well it is all subjective and I am not trying to" When, Hensen himself has been clear on what he meant.

@Rangure02

4 күн бұрын

Tell that to Tim Henson fans. Lol

I wouldn’t know anything about Tim Henson if it wasn’t for the Internet continuously talking about him

@poindextertunes

26 күн бұрын

bcuz he’s that good if you enjoy progressive music. He’s not everyones cup o’ tea tho

@buckodonnghaile4309

26 күн бұрын

He created the Muppets, that's all I know.

@user-tg4jf5bf1v

26 күн бұрын

​@@buckodonnghaile4309 This comment won the internet for the day. I tip my cap to you

@devenscience8894

26 күн бұрын

@@buckodonnghaile4309 he's the host of Distorted View Daily.

@dan_kay

26 күн бұрын

@@poindextertunes The noise he produces is called progressive music? Guess I'm going to call my dumps progressive digestion from now on.

"The pipeline from Robert Johnson to Young Thug" I have nothing I just love this

@junny3000

26 күн бұрын

YT is facing RICO charges and is currently awaiting sentencing. Robert Johnson actually played guitar

@randomguyontheinternet7940

26 күн бұрын

@@junny3000 im just saying pointing out history like that was hilarous. billion times more respect to Robert Johnson than to any rich wannabe thug

@THICCTHICCTHICC

25 күн бұрын

​@@randomguyontheinternet7940Young Thug isn't a wannabe lol. Literally a gang leader.

@patriarchyenjoyer69

19 күн бұрын

@@THICCTHICCTHICC Wow, that makes him so much more respectable lmao

@patriarchyenjoyer69

19 күн бұрын

The welfare state really destroyed that culture, sadly.

Beato should get 3-5 years for popularizing the term "Boomer bends"

@tcpfuzz9215

25 күн бұрын

0-3-5

@joelflynn1124

25 күн бұрын

Boomer chill.

@dragonballfanscantread2383

23 күн бұрын

Beato is a dork. He doesn't get what makes music art.

@dylanphelan3010

23 күн бұрын

Close minded statement

@GeorgeTsiros

22 күн бұрын

anyone acknowledging the term in my unapologetically *not* humble opinion should first try to bend like hendrix try bending a note like those "boomers" and if you manage it, you're then free to talk shit about it, _if you still think it's worthy of derision_

The Stratocaster wasn’t released until the 50’s. Pedals had nothing to do with main stream rock music until the 60s. All trivial corrections, the video still properly conveys your point.

@junny3000

26 күн бұрын

and even in the 60s it was just volume pedals and wah wahs

@bobbob-es6zg

26 күн бұрын

It all started with a broken recording mixing console, then that sound, was converted and engineered into a pedal, the Maestro Fuzz tone FZ1. Initially the pedal was advertised as being able to simulate wood wind and brass instruments when plugged into string instruments; because it was so expensive it was never really advertised to the average enthusiast or amateur musician. The Rolling Stones used an FZ1 to record satisfaction, because they couldn’t afford a horns section. The FZ1 enabled them to use the guitar to fill the sonic void that normally would be filled by a brass section.

@F1083

25 күн бұрын

@@junny3000 Fuzz son Fuzz. Hit with satisfaction by the stones Used by Hendrix Used be the Beatles A mainstay of the whole 60s Psychedelic scene kzread.info/dash/bejne/hpqk0JWweNK0d6Q.html

@SpartanS117C

17 күн бұрын

​@@junny3000I believe there was phasing and flanging pedals.

Everybody probably has heard the story that Eddie Van Halen used to play with his back turned so people could not see his hands playing

@Dragonflyer74

23 күн бұрын

funny because he stole tapping from Harvey Mandel and he wasnt even close to the first guy to do it

@chernobylcoleslaw6698

18 күн бұрын

I hadn't heard that, but I do remember hearing of a jazz trumpeter playing with handkerchief covering his trumpet so people couldn't see it.

@Ozarkmadness56

12 күн бұрын

Robert Johnson also did this in the recording booth. Dudes want to guard their techniques.

Coolea jumpscare at 00:14

@JasonCan-wp2fu

26 күн бұрын

Pure terror

@ndogg20

26 күн бұрын

Relax. Its just an AI generated image. The real Coolea has a wizards hat.

@goonfish1704

26 күн бұрын

bro listened to his female fans going “omg show your face” like the wizard goblin isn’t good enough

@bestwesterner

26 күн бұрын

Nah that’s Cillian Murphy

@elixthenese1469

26 күн бұрын

His avatar is surprisingly reflective of him.

Saying "And that brings us to the topic of this video" half-way through has the same energy as Marx saying "And now I shall get to the crux of the issue" on page 388.

@damonhinson4005

26 күн бұрын

Comrade?

@BababooeyGooey

26 күн бұрын

The crux of the issue: "How the fuck do you spell 'booj-wa-zee'?"

@insertnamehere1258

26 күн бұрын

@@BababooeyGooeyborjwaze

@mofomartianp

22 күн бұрын

The crux being "I'm inventing a revolutionary social and economic ideology to undermine the monarch and stage a revolution to seize power for my group. The workers are just tools, whether for Capitalists or Communists. And we will use them as tools."

@carlmarker9257

22 күн бұрын

lel commie

Tim Henson is just Gen Z version of Yngwie Malmsteen.

@Arnathor4582

26 күн бұрын

The tranny version of him Guitar is outdated It's a toy for the rich nowodays

@jackko21

26 күн бұрын

Just with more pink panties

@elzueiromemes

26 күн бұрын

Even Malmsteen himself recognizes he would be nothing if wasn't for Hendrix

@Arnathor4582

26 күн бұрын

Tim Henson is an overrated feminine looking man The boomers had it all, cheaper housing, better music and even better guitarist

@MetalPersonJ

26 күн бұрын

it will be a cursed day when he discovered donuts.

Henson is obviously a talented guitarist, but I've never listened to one of his songs twice.

@Guesswho2024.

26 күн бұрын

Same just not my thing. Never even hear the full goat song. And hey guess what ? That’s okay!!! Someone else would say they prefer what I don’t ! Who cares.

@animeswitch

26 күн бұрын

Kinda makes sense his music sounds soulless, GenZ got unlucky and had to grow up with completely soulless/materialistic mainstream trash.

@milkwalkerjones633

26 күн бұрын

Yeah it's boring

@milkwalkerjones633

26 күн бұрын

@@animeswitchEvery generation has said that about every younger generation though lol it's all subjective

@animeswitch

26 күн бұрын

@@milkwalkerjones633 It really isnt when people are listening to songs about materialism, cars, money, ect. This is soulless by definition. Literally all modern rap music, and they are made so unbelievably basic.

Music does this in cycles. Baroque was called that to be derisive, more emotional music with expression came after as a reaction to overly technical stuff like madrigals or Fugues. Sometimes the results can be a whole new form of expression a master like Beethoven could use to make us all pay attention. Oh, uh, music history nerd here.

@vincentdequiram1102

23 күн бұрын

Do you know what Beethoven said about J.S.Bach: „Bach, the man who should be named Ocean!“ The name Bach means a small water stream in German. So Beethoven was a real fan of Baroque music.

@nimrodery

23 күн бұрын

@@vincentdequiram1102 That's part of the cycle, other classical era composers looked back to Baroque (just not with that label) as well for inspiration, like how disco was largely avoided for a bit but inspired later waves of music styles. I was referring to the attitudes seen slightly after Bach's time and wasn't implying Beethoven would have disliked his music.

@JoshButterballs

21 күн бұрын

all the best music was already written by men in wigs. give me a modern piece that offers divine substance as Fantasia in G, BWV 572: Gravement

@SpartanS117C

17 күн бұрын

I took a music history class and I'm very interested to see the evolution of guitar music in this era.

@shemsuhor8763

13 күн бұрын

Correct. Music has been "over" for hundreds of years. Nothing is new under the sun. Nothing ever happens. It's over.

Even Tim Henson himself said he loves Boomer bends. He just named it that because the boomer generation invented that style of bend. Nothing backhanded about it. Boomer bends rock

@Noxious_Koi

22 күн бұрын

He even said it’s also just because the alliteration

@CyberChrist

20 күн бұрын

That's still objectively untrue.

@KirkVz

18 күн бұрын

exactly it was just to describe a generation in music , it was the boomers themselves that took it as an insult lol

@CyberChrist

18 күн бұрын

@@KirkVz It's not like he was salty people with any modicum of musical taste criticised his music, of course... And criticising older people for being older is karma in the making, unless you're going to join the 27 Club :P

@aramondehasashi3324

17 күн бұрын

Yeah i went to his KZread channel to listen to some of his playing and the first few videos i watched he's using bends.

I like the sound of both styles.

@--..-...-..-.--....

26 күн бұрын

I do, too!

1 thing I'm realising as I get older is that these "generational evolutions" are often less evolutions but fads. I remember back in the early 90s and there were MANY bands who the "boomers" would dismiss and we young Gen X'rs would laugh at their lack of musical knowledge. I still love many of those bands I used to listen to (and occasionally still do) but I know full well that their sound is very dated these days. However, the likes of Pink Floyd etc are listened to across generations for a reason. We cannot really judge "the music of today" until it has been around another couple of decades to know whether it was "of its time" or "timeless". I personally think it is that emotion conveyed in the playing of instruments, less the technicality, which really makes some bands transcend generations. I can appreciate the technicality in the moment, but 10 years later I probably won't really remember a highly technical song whereas songs which successfully transmit emotion and personality with themes that are eternally part of the human experience will always find a connexion

@collinsnow2203

14 күн бұрын

This is exactly what I’ve been trying to get this toxic comment section to understand, finally nice to see someone so based. Music was always about feeling, not technicality. I only appreciate technicality if it serves the actual purpose of the story you’re trying to tell- otherwise, it’s just showing off for the sake of it.

@occasionalart7597

13 күн бұрын

To be fair, I also think there can be a ton of fun to see an artist at the top of their game just show off what they're capable of, no matter the artistic medium But yes, the songs that truly stick around are the ones that truly have something to say, and you can only tell if a song, an album or an artist/band really is a classic with the benefit of hindsight

I'm 47 and I'm grateful to have seen some of the legendary bands before they passed away. I also appreciate the technical skills of these young players. Maybe not their vocals, but that's just me.

Why can't people just stop trying to put boundaries on art which in my opinion should be mostly boundless. Not directed at anyone specifically but, just shut up and listen to the music you like.

The thing with modern guitarist is that they would probably show emotion while playing, but things they play are so hard that they need to focus on playing rather than emotion lmao. Its the same with Death, they would probably headbang in their prime but the songs literally needed so much focus to play and sing in the same time. And that was like almost 40 years ago.

@An4LDr1p616

26 күн бұрын

the thing is death is actually good and pariphery is not.

@tedd1659

26 күн бұрын

@@An4LDr1p616 agreed, but some modern metal bands are good like polyphia or animals as leaders.

@torzee6489

26 күн бұрын

theyre not lmao ​@@tedd1659

@jimmyb4812

26 күн бұрын

It's more than just their stage presence. Albums like Symbolic and The Sound of Perseverance are highly technical, yes, but they still convey emotions and tell stories. Polyphia's music just lacks in the songwriting department so much. It feels almost like a bunch of jam sessions a group of skilled musicians would warm up with before they get to writing their evocative material, only that evocative material never comes.

@tedd1659

26 күн бұрын

@@jimmyb4812 not really you can definetly see them having some kind of emotion and "feeling" the instrument. Bunch of times Tim while either performing live or on a video you can see him somewhat of headbanging and moving his head in a wierd way in which he probably shows his emotion. Also on the songwriting department most of modern metal is either Djent, metalcore or prog so basically 90% of modern metal music is about rythm which i think modern metal bands do very well, the other problem is that it somewhat sounds sterile and overproduced.

I feel like people overestimate how much technicality takes out emotion. Just using extremely technical playing doesn’t mean you can’t have emotion.

@Zooropa_Station

21 күн бұрын

Right, it's like anti-intellectualism but for music. Aka the people the mock others for using words that are "too big" even though those words have a reason for existing.

@mattster693

21 күн бұрын

While in theory that would make sense, but in practice it just doesn’t seem to work that way, even certain music I like I can realize that because the playing is so fast and technical there is little time to add the emotion unless that emotion needs it to be that way to be fully realized, Tbh very few emotions can be expressed with virtuosic technicality, while restricting your playing and playing slower can yield more interesting sounds and much different emotions, the space in between is just as important as the notes played

@ItsMeBarnaby

20 күн бұрын

Saying a piece of music "lacks feel" or is "soulless" is completely meaningless. You might as well just say you just don't like it because that's all it really means. Its just people trying to make their subjective opinion sound more objective.

@Jeremy-hx7zj

19 күн бұрын

I swear, most people hear one 16th note run and decide it's soulless music made by a robot. Music is like, the only discipline where working extremely hard every day to learn as much about it as possible is viewed as unpassionate

@Jeremy-hx7zj

19 күн бұрын

​@@mattster693everyone processes music differently. Maybe you can't observe emotion if someone plays fast, but many people can.

And then there's this gray area where you have the best of both worlds. Players like Chet Atkins, Jerry Reed, etc can get quite technical but there's so much emotion in their playing, it's beautiful

@soulubilityofficial6635

20 күн бұрын

Don’t forget Django Reinhardt!

I'm personally pro-bends, as i am a radiohead fan, and Johnny Greenwood very much uses these familiar yet exaggerated bends in his solos that feel very modern. I think the first guitar solo in paranoid android is the best example.

@TheAndradeCS

26 күн бұрын

Is your fav album of them The Bends by any chance?

@bestwesterner

26 күн бұрын

classic Radiohead fan self report

@jaykelley103

26 күн бұрын

Johnny Greenwood is so sick its unreal

@DeadpoolX9

26 күн бұрын

I think that’s cause their music is so “out there” that the bends almost sound like a stabilizing “grounding” force in an otherwise detached alien landscape

@Tangent_Frank

26 күн бұрын

@@TheAndradeCS i love that the bends still gets love from the fanbase, given how early in their discog it is.

I like how guitarists like Guthrie Govan fuse technicality with feel and improvisation. Seems like the logical next step: boomer bend math rock synthesis.

@antparkasp

26 күн бұрын

Polvo was doing boomer bend math rock synthesis in the 90s and they fuckin rule

@meinbherpieg4723

25 күн бұрын

Guthrie Govan is the guy who everyone should have been talking about for the last decade but I don't think the industry knew how to promote him. He's definitely a guitar player's guitarist.

@andrewsiemon

22 күн бұрын

Agreed. I think Guthrie Govan is the best player to ever do it. Including players both alive and deceased. Bro has a great taste for melody and vibe but can also shred like an absolute monster. When I first saw his youtube videos about 10-15 years ago when they appeared on KZread I was absolutely floored. I didn't know anybody could even play like that. He also indirectly introduced me to players like Brett Garsed, Shawn Lane, and Frank Gambale and I was even more floored from there. I couldn't believe that I had been a fan of the guitar for over ten years and didn't know about those guys.

@aguaraguazu8461

21 күн бұрын

​@@meinbherpieg4723Everyone was talking about him 10 years ago, but you were probably listening to Imagine Dragons 🤡

"Play that *ticky tik tik tak tap tap bing* white boi."

@KarlKarsnark

26 күн бұрын

To be fair, Tim is Asian and Tosin is very Black. White Bois are off the hook on this one.

@Dothreban

18 күн бұрын

Say that five times fast. 😂

Going in cold, I swear it's nice to see grunge & 90s metal aging so well. "Bro, look at my clean funk shred 'song' that sounds like I'm playing a talent show at MI!" >wrinkles nose at 21st century twink Richie Kotzen in disgust >Chugs beer >hits bong >JCM 800 set to kill >hurricane of feedback "I'm not that talented, and don't really care."

@snailcorepistolwhippits9488

26 күн бұрын

"talent show at MI" you nailed it. I think a lot of these modern virtuosos benefit from the Internet making them accessible to a lot of normies. People from musical hubs like Hollywood don't stan out over bands and guitar players in the same way

@YBM2007

22 күн бұрын

Only good that came out of grunge was AiC. The rest was extremely mediocre and overrated

@rocketpigrecords3719

22 күн бұрын

@@YBM2007 compared to what? And no, Soundgarden and Mudhoney and Smashing Pumpkins aren't 'overrated.'

@YBM2007

22 күн бұрын

@@rocketpigrecords3719 Extremely limited compared to the stuff that predated it (in a broader commercial sense), 80s hard rock and metal. Which is where you find the origins of AiC.

@rocketpigrecords3719

21 күн бұрын

@@YBM2007 not really, this is just crap asshurt butt rockers have been saying since 1992. Grunge is a hybrid style based upon a bunch of bands in a scene no one was paying attention to, who did whatever they wanted with their classic rock, folk, country, punk and metal influences. Even hairspray stuff, Alice 'N Chainz displayed on Facelift. Huge difference between the usual suspects, much less getting into fringier stuff like the Melvins that basically created sludge metal. Meanwhile hair bands all had the same bleach blonde closet case singer, wannabe EVH guitarist, bassist who I guess wasn't fat & showed up on time, and a drummer that never did anything Bonham wouldn't do. Same ball less tone, same production style, same power ballads, same spandex. Even Megadeth ended up with boosted 500hz mids and gated reverb all over at least on album, & Dave hated it. If you're talking about Maiden, early Metallica, or even some good ol' Celtic Frost, these were all stuff Cobain listened to regularly. Many old Nirvana photos, you see Grohl wearing a Sepultura ball cap. Over half the bands you want to throw at me, couldn't play a Soundgarden song - because they only ever played in 4/4.

One of my friends is a modern guitarist and is deep into metalcore. And he always told its about the techincal expression and loving being the center of attention that drives alot of modern guitar playing. I'm not a very technical bass player but thats why I enjoy sludge, doom, and stoner metal. I can play to it and savor the slower tempos and keep simpler, taking a less is more approach.

@canti7951

26 күн бұрын

Nothing really changed, flashy guitar solos, overplaying and not playing with the band have always been a thing. People just tend to follow trends and use them in generic, uninspired ways. I wouldn't blame modern guitar for that just as I won't blame eddie van halen for "inventing" tapping and the barrage of uninspired tapping solos thereafter.

@user-sj1ny1br3o

26 күн бұрын

@@canti7951 exactly its just a style someone start and others wanted to replicate. Thats the nature of music.

@tziirkq

26 күн бұрын

I make drone metal unironically. I find the simple and slow meandering is better for me to express a thought or a feeling. It's like when a writer can use simple language like Terry Pratchett, or can use as many different words as possible like some other writer that isn't Terry Pratchett I guess. Neither are particularly better than the other, because they both serve the same purpose but get their taking a different route. The real problem is when people, either fans or musicians, argue like twats that such and such is better than such and such because of such and such. But I will argue that Frank Black is one of the best composers we have.

@user-sj1ny1br3o

26 күн бұрын

@@tziirkq you're absolutely right about feeling and expression. And a big part of that comes from how long a Drone metal track can be. It just takes its time and really emphasizes atmosphere and melancholy. But alot people tend to think music needs to be high energy and exciting. Which make hyper technical playing typically more engaging and need something short and digestible. My guitarist friend also told when he listens to stuff its just stuff he can learn from, so its the same mentality of developing and honing his skill. Me personally taping into the sense of dread that Drone, Doom, and Sludge is a very powerful feeling that music can do that make us appreciate the the bright side even more. So really everyone wants different things in music and music is in reality fairly easy to make which is why their is so much of it and people will make what they want to listen to.

@DallasGunther

26 күн бұрын

And yeah, sometimes less is more.

Fun fact when Music is Win had Tim on, Tim stated Hendrix is one of his favorites. And I think there is something to that. Hendrix was a massiv innovator at his time, especially when it came to effect usage and articulation. Tim does similar things but in a different direction.

@lakerfan2874

23 күн бұрын

I can't get around the fuzz nor Hendrix's singing to get through one song. He was an entertainer, that's it. Carlos Santana on the other hand to keep it American in the mid to late 60s, was either on par or better in my opinion. He has more feel and is more technical without any dirty pedals. I can say that Eddie is better because he was full natural in his guitar sound/tone. Santana and Eddie knew that lead singing were not for them.

@gdawgs101

22 күн бұрын

​​​​@@lakerfan2874 LMAO awful opinion. Also Carlos Santana isn't even American, he was born in Mexico, grew up in Mexico, didn't even come to the US until he was already performing professionally. Also explain how Santana was "more technical". I mean be specific. I'm a guitar teacher, and Hendrix's parts are generally much more complex than the average Santana part, and I like Carlos a lot. Also Carlos, while having a pretty simple signal chain, has used "dirty pedals" (can't believe you unironically said this). I'm looking at a picture of one of his pedalboards from his 2014 tour and he has a wah, a big muff, a delay, and a compressor on it. And I know for a fact he's used tube screamers in the past as well. Leave it to the Lakers fan to not know what he's talking about... 😂

@lakerfan2874

22 күн бұрын

@@gdawgs101 Leave it to a boring guitar teacher to go word for word into bars and chords, but probably won't listen to much music unless it's classical and probably folk or pop. Mexico is an American country a part of the North American continent, so I'm still right about Santana being an American, just not what you think when you're looking at the country of the US. I'd rather have raw feel and emotion more than the artificial fuzz sound. I love the wah-wah pedal because it gives the guitar an effect while keeping the sound as it was being played normally. The fuzz pedal just makes it darker and probably most of the times muddy. I believe thr fuzz pedal is better on the bass than the lead or rhythm guitar. You're a teacher making a production, I'm just a listener and like what I like. It's more preference than an opinion. In my opinion, you're just pissed because I see Hendrix as just an entertainer more than a guitar god. If you give Hendrix DLR's vocals then maybe I'll give it to him, but for me, if he's the frontman, he better be like Chuck Berry more than he is a singing Santana or go the Joe Satriani route and hire a freaking singer and do tons of instrumentals to showcase the skill and talent. Singers today can't play guitar and some guitarists don't sing to get by. Just because you go note by note and think the fuzz pedal is better than the damn regular tone and sound of the guitar doesn't mean I'm going to change my mind on him. I played Guitar Hero World Tour and the two songs that are on there, I played and I couldn't get into a groove. Hell, Somewhere Along the Watchtower has a good intro because it's a basic acoustic intro, but as a singer I give Bob Dylan the respect that he needs. You can be the best guitarist, but you might as well hire a singer and do what you do best, which is what Santana does. Not everyone's gonna be into Hendrix like not everyone's into the Beatles, Tom Petty, or Metallica, which is fine by me. Hell, I'd say Petty's a better singer than Hendrix and you'd just be fine because you're just a guitar teacher. Plus, teachers indoctrinate their pupils to be just like them, so if I was one of your students, don't think I'm gonna listen and like it. I never liked Van Halen, The Doors, ACDC, Led Zeppelin except for Stairway to Heaven, or even Tom Petty as a kid/teen, but I do now. I won't even listen to Polyphia because it doesn't rock like the 5 above do. A very skilled guitarist should stay in their lane and be a very skilled guitarist. Nobody thinks of Steven Tyler for his harmonica skills nor do people think about Hendrix for his singing, they typically skip to the parts that have the riffs and solos. I had a change of heart on Bruce Springsteen being too depressing, he's not at all. If Hendrix lived over 27, he wouldn't be thought about as much as he does today like Cobain, Winehouse and Joplin. Hell, if you're a guitar teacher, you might hate Nirvana for their raunchy, unprofessional, and untechnical riffs, bridges, and solos. For good riffs, I think about Steppenwolf's Born to be Wild, George Harrison's Wah-Wah, Metallica's Inamorata and Halo on Fire to name a few songs, Megadeth's Holy Wars and Symphony of Destruction, ACDC's Thunderstruck, Deep Purple's Highway Star and Smoke on the Water, Tom Petty's American Girl, Fault Lines, and You Wreck Me to name a few again. I also think about a lot more than Hendrix, again I don't listen to Hendrix and the impressions from those 2 songs on Guitar Hero World Tour is something to consider why. I didn't like Jim Morrison's vocals, but I found a liking to them like I do with Bon Scott's and Brian Johnson's. All I know is that Hendrix is only known for a couple of songs/riffs like Purple Haze. I don't see a huge issue liking someone better than someone else. Plus, with the Lakers fan thing, you're just a typical Hendrix loving guitar teacher ready and eager enough to show your students the "unique" techniques he used as if no one has put them in their repertoire.

@ItsMeBarnaby

20 күн бұрын

@@lakerfan2874 Nobody says someone is an American if they're from Canada or Mexico. Just admit you're wrong and don't try to move the goal posts. "Um well technically its in the continent" yap yap yap nerd.

@lakerfan2874

20 күн бұрын

@ItsMeBarnaby Once more, Carlos Santana is a naturalized US citizen, so he does count as an American. At the time, there was no great guitarist in the US besides Hendrix and Santana. Plus, moving the goal post is something odd since a lot of people do call others as Americans. If we call Europeans, Europeans in general, why can't we in North and South America? It's like calling someone from Italy a European and a Lebanese a Middle Eastern even though their in the continent of Asia. So where's the middle ground for it. If we're going on region, then Mexico would just be a region of North America as it doesn't stretch the whole of Central America. There are 2 American continents and 3 American regions with America in the name, which are North, Central, and South America. In the US alone, we have multiple regions, which could be countries if there's ways for that to happen, like New England, Atlantic, Southeast, Central/Midwest, Southwest, and Pacific. Classifying someone as something is where everything is culturized. Calling me a nerd for geography lessons isn't something you should be doing since most Americans care less for geography and more into fashion, parties, and looks. I'd rather be knowledgeable than looking pretty because that's what society and culture desire most. Again, Santana has been a naturalized US citizen since 1965. Ethnicity and location of birth shouldn't hurt an argument about US guitar players of the 60s as there were barely any great players at that time. Hell, I'd add Johnny Cash for how he used his acoustic guitar as a percussion instrument by putting a playing card in between some strings.

Ive never met someone with that Tim Henson signature that was good at guitar💀

@JasonCan-wp2fu

26 күн бұрын

Ichika Nito?

@Heisenbinks

26 күн бұрын

​@@JasonCan-wp2fu 'met'

@JasonCan-wp2fu

26 күн бұрын

@@Heisenbinks oh yeah

@retrovertigo.505

26 күн бұрын

which one? the electric or the nylon string?

@mrincorrect848

26 күн бұрын

@@retrovertigo.505 The Nylon.

55 here, love Polyphia! I think Tim is referring more to the Freebird lick more than referring to actual bending. Anyways, I think learning a Polyphia song or 2 could do anyone some good. Loads of technique, chord inversions, chord melody, voice leading and hooks for days. Not to mention their licks are so unique and quirky.

Old jazz players were just as good as metal shredders

@gitsurfer27

21 күн бұрын

Metal is technically harder to play from a purely physical standpoint, Jazz is much much harder musically.

@ganglestank

21 күн бұрын

@@gitsurfer27 nah go look up alan holdsworth dude

@gitsurfer27

21 күн бұрын

@@ganglestank I know holdsworth, not saying jazz can't be shreddy, but Holdsworth is famous for mixing heavy rock elements into his playing, thats where a lot of his shred comes from.

@ganglestank

21 күн бұрын

@@gitsurfer27 Holdsworth existed in the 60s and 70s you know

@j.2512

19 күн бұрын

and what point did black people got so bad at music ? is like they discovered sampling and devolved into the stone age

Being playing guitar for 20+ years, I can fully appreciate the development. I think Polyphia and ASL bands are pretty awesome, taking the instrument to the next phase (much better than the nu metal era I grew up in, sorry to say). When I first learned guitar, I too were inspired to be a guitar hero, tapping, sweeping, legatos in high gain were all I knew, I want to go faster and shred to the end. In recent decade, as I have less time to practise, and also with better patience and experience (perhaps due to aging), I have start to turn off the distortion, delays, and start to explore more into dynamics and phrasing, trying to make the notes convey feeling. I think its just a phase in life people go thru, I dont think a normal teen could appreciate players like BB King, Albert King, Freddy King.. I didn't, but if they hold on to playing music, Im sure they will learn to appreciate it eventually (unless they're Yngwie Malmsteen)...

I think the argument in this one is a miss because it doesn't interrogate its own assumptions. Before considering which technical or compositional techniques are in some sense inherently "emotional", it's assumed that emotion is inherently conveyed in music. But emotion is interpreted by an audience; even if it's intentionally conveyed by the musician, it may be unpacked very differently upon being heard. We can witness this effect all the time in upbeat, major key songs with dark lyrics, which might be used frequently in social settings for their directly musical qualities while the lyrical qualities are misunderstood or go unacknowledged. So before we can even discuss which techniques are "emotional", which was skipped over in this video, we have to discuss how emotion is expressed and interpreted in music and how those things are commonly misaligned. Which was also skipped over in this video.

@eliasmg9144

26 күн бұрын

This is a good point tbh, valid criticism

@mattster693

21 күн бұрын

Tbh those kind of songs are confusing, what actual emotion is being expressed? The sadness of the lyrics or the happiness of the music? Why are those things together at all, it’s pretty hard to be happy and sad at the same time unless maybe you’re mentally ill, or maybe you’re confused? It just doesn’t make any logical or musical sense to me

@MadassAlex

20 күн бұрын

@@mattster693 I expect it's a form of dramatic irony, like the musical equivalent of people forcing a smile when they're miserable. Of course, between how common the technique is and how poor audiences are at interpreting it, I see it as a better technique on paper than it is in application.

@matturner6890

17 күн бұрын

Seconded, great point.

@matturner6890

17 күн бұрын

@@mattster693 I suspect a lot of (pop) songwriters are just too chickenshit to write something in a minor/ weirder key, even if the lyrics are ultra-depressing. Doesn't make money I guess..

Blue eyed devil Coolea

I think john petrucci is like the culmination of the rock/metal guitarists from the 80s/90s while also pushing technicality and speed to crazy levels, he is the peak of the old guard and the trailblazer for the newer styles.

@bastianogr4960

25 күн бұрын

A remarkable thing about John Petrucci is, how his playing used to sound very technical and shallow during his early years (still awesome though) and developed into this incredible blend of mind-blowing technique and multi-level feel. His playing today sounds so deep and soulful, despite the crazy technique. I think that's very rare.

Tim Henson trying to improvise with Vai watching is hilarious.

@funoolesbian4225

26 күн бұрын

Improvisation is always about understanding the box you're asked to run around free in. Ask them to think completely outside of those boxes like John Fahey or Mary Halvorson and they immediately appear terminally tacky.

@LongLiveRockAnRoll

26 күн бұрын

Came here to say that. Tim was definitely out of his depth with that one.

@ruankuck3332

26 күн бұрын

I mean... that is a lot of pressure

@asafoetidajones8181

25 күн бұрын

Fahey was an incredible player. Pulled shit out of somewhere that was simultaneously pure tradition and bizarrely fresh.

@dungeonsanddobbers2683

8 күн бұрын

Looked this up after seeing this comment. The first video was a tiktok clip of Henson on stage doing improv with Steve Vai and the other Polyphia guitarist, and you can see on Henson's face that he knows he can't match the two guitarists he's sharing the stage with. There are moments early on where Vai just starts playing over Henson because the kid just doesn't have the chops, and later on it seems as if both Vai and LePage are playing over him as a way to help Henson "save face".

Creating “boomer bends” will create more of a legacy for Henson than his playing lol. This video is literally r/guitarcirclejerk 😂

You should wear green face paint, sunglasses, and a wizard hat in your live action segments tbh. Oh, and some of those plastic vampire fangs to really complete the look

I know most people won't like this, but this is the most stupid debate ever. Listen whatever you want and create whatever you want.

@matturner6890

17 күн бұрын

nobody is disputing that lol

I think its not just about younger generations disliking bending but disliking the blues overall. I think bending can still sound fresh but most of the time its heard within the context of guitarists using them in the pentatonic boxes that they love so much, which makes them sound bluesy and old-timey.

@desuretard8654

26 күн бұрын

Ouch that's gotta suck. I'm not surprised they don't have any influence from blues. I guess that's why I find all the new age stuff dreadfully boring.

@KarlKarsnark

26 күн бұрын

The main problem with "modern" American music is that is has lost the feel of the Blues, even dance music is just a glorified click-track. The best notes ARE the "Blue" notes, which are all the ones Tim won't play. He's just a meme. Nothing more.

@sigiligus

26 күн бұрын

Comments prove why zoomers are sick of blues based music. It’s just a bunch of shitty seething boomers screeching over how their youth was the absolute supreme peak of all culture and how the rest of time til the sun explodes should live in permanent awe inspired reverence of the holy 60’s & 70’s.

@dylanphelan3010

23 күн бұрын

traditional blues not being the predominant style of music isn't a bad thing. Classical had no influence from blues and some of the best music in recorded history came from that (granted modern music isn't all that good in general, but you get my point). It has nothing to do with a blues influence and more so the industry and consumers not being encouraged to go seek different forms of music that they might enjoy.

@matturner6890

17 күн бұрын

@@KarlKarsnark the autotune won't play nice in the mix if you don't hyper-tune the guitars and avoid blue notes altogether :/ lame af, I know

I'm 42 years old and when I heard CAFO by Animals as Leaders for the first time my jaw dropped and I was instantly a fan. And as for the younguns; every generation craps on their parent's music. Give them a decade and many of them will learn to appreciate what came before.

@justsomeguy727

14 күн бұрын

The thing is, Tim doesn't crap on old music. In fact, he loves stuff like Hendrix and plenty of music that uses these so called "boomer bends" lol his tastes are incredibly varied too. From pop, to r&b, to metal, to classical, to Japanese hyperpop and anime stuff. He is very much an open book when it comes to what he likes to listen to and anybody who has actually followed him throughout Polyphia's entire life knows this because each and every Polyphia album sounds entirely different than the last one specifically BECAUSE of how varied the band's musical influences are. Their music may not be for everyone, but there is absolutely no denying the musicality and creativity behind those fellas. People just took one phrase he said out of context and decided to make a big stink about it even several years after the fact he's already explained that he never meant the term as an insult.

@Frawt

7 күн бұрын

@@justsomeguy727 Boomers are massive snowflakes in general, so if you use the word "boomer" in relation to anything in any context, they'll have an absolute shitfit.

I understand your criticisms of overly complicated music, but I feel deeply moved by polyphias music. Could be personal prefrence, but if you listen to him talk, his objective has not been to just make circle jerk prog muisc, but to push and expand music into a new and unknown territory.

@kitten-whisperer

9 күн бұрын

This right here. I can't stand the "there's no feel" people. Uh no. There's no feel to YOU. I don't "feel" anything to some boring blues riffs. That doesn't mean there isn't any "feeeeeel" in the song. But other gay ass guitarists refuse to acknowledge this

Imo the best music that emotionally resonates with the listener. It could be from any genre or era. I know if I hear something that is technically impressive, but feels soulless I'm more likely to dismiss it as wankery.

I love the music of Polyphia. As guitarists, we express ourselves in many different ways. Whether it is through technicality, raw emotion, effects layering, string attack or utilizing pedals, it is all just different ways to express ourselves and convey it the best we can in our art.

the sheer amount of memes this man has stored in his computer should be used as a preservation storage lmao btw, banger of a video. The quality of the scripts and presentation have been noticeably increasing through the latest uploads. Cool guy Coolea :)

Pedicures are for toes. Manicures are for fingers.

@coolea

25 күн бұрын

cds?

@MrRezRising

25 күн бұрын

@@coolea You had mentioned, "...his pedicured fingers..." when you mentioned Tim in the beginning. Sorry to be so nerdy. 🙂

It’s amazing the way you get AI voice simulation out of a live recording…

There is a difference between playing music to express feelings and thoughts, and making 'music' just as a challenge to prove how skilled one is.

Bends are not something to be avoided, it's a form of self expression. It's flair and a way to personalise your playing, there's endless ways to bend a string and allows for your own subtle differences from the next guitarist. A guitar is an inherently imperfect instrument, and in terms of music, imperfection is perfection

Musical notation is a language and a way of communication, it has nothing to do with rules.

Never trust a historical instrument video that pronounces Baroque as Ba-Row-Kay.

@JoshButterballs

21 күн бұрын

youtubers mispronounce words so people like you can leave comments. too bad this channel creator seems to be a plant/youtube corporate favorite. grey mushy and inoffensive content to scatter ads into.

@mark6302

17 күн бұрын

if it's not baroque don't fix it

Double dip: something to remember with "boomer bends" is that they sound amazing when high on lsd. I mean, that one note sustained had the secrets of the universe visually pulsing through your consciousness. I had one older guy I know flip out when he heard Tim Henson play because he said, and I quote: "That sounds exactly like what my stupid old ass has been hearing for 60 years now but he's actually playing it!" He died later that day from depression and really for just "not having any use on this planet anymore"- his words. I, personally, think he was a wonderful person and that boomers really are a very thoughtful, balanced and frankly generous generation of people overall.

1940s Strat? What?

@jessehutchings

23 күн бұрын

He's having a slight giggle at how Fender enthusiasts seem to think older is always better for some reason

@jessehutchings

23 күн бұрын

Old guitars just had more 'mojo' 😂

@badbeardbill9956

19 күн бұрын

Yes I would want a 1940s strat because that’s literally impossible

"Boomers" and Gen-Z share one thing in common, parts of each generation are incredibly easy to offend. You can make a 40+ year old man spin out over the smallest things all the while they call young people sensitive.

@sentientdogma1206

26 күн бұрын

40 + year old man? Get your math straight. Gen x started 60 years ago lmao. Baby boomers are 60 years old at their youngest. The generation you’re thinking of is Gen x which is what my parents are as a person of the very youngest millennial generation. Zoomers and Generation X have so much in common, and the millennials are the truly forgotten generation. No one listens or cares about us, zoomers are annoying, gen x are annoying, and boomers are complete dinosaurs by now

@danielflanard8274

26 күн бұрын

@@sentientdogma1206 Hey pal, notice how I put "Boomers" in quotation marks? That is because young people commonly use to it to refer to anyone over the age of 30 and/or those who are out of touch. It has become a modern way to call someone a fogey. I understand that the actual Baby Boomer generation is geriatric. I do not appreciate you condescendingly trying to correct me.

@KarlKarsnark

26 күн бұрын

Boomers are in their 60s and 70s. LOL! Gen X is 40s and made great music. 90s were the "Golden Age" of almost every genre from Rap to Metal to Pop and even some of the Boomers were still going strong. Now, we have AI Nintendo knock offs. Hooray, we suck!

@KarlKarsnark

26 күн бұрын

@@danielflanard8274 Then use a term correctly. That's why we have them. You twinks really do ree-out easily. LOL! Go get your troon juice and calm down. LOL!

@OtherlingQueen

25 күн бұрын

@@sentientdogma1206 your point was proven lmfao

I feel like some people can come off as feeling "superior" in a way, because the music they listen to was birthed from a certain political or cultural agenda. It's as if people who want to make music just for the sake of making music are automaticaly considered "soulless" or lacking of emotion. People listen to music in different ways, and something that may appear to be regurgitated diarrhea to one person, may hit some deep rooted emotional strings in other people.

@iohannesfactotum

26 күн бұрын

As a nu metal fan, i approve this message.

@sashakozlov8217

26 күн бұрын

Yep. Part of the issue is that "feel" can be interpreted through other avenues besides the traditional bends and vibrato. Looking through the music with that lens, of course new technical guitar playing sounds empty and soulless.

@Nobddy

26 күн бұрын

Well, making music with no message, no conviction, and no connection to the craft is kind of definitionally soulless, so yeah. Tim Henson is a talented guitarist and a crappy songwriter. It’s not hard to understand.

@jbank7547

26 күн бұрын

@@Nobddy thank god music is subjective

@milkwalkerjones633

26 күн бұрын

@@NobddyThe OP debunked this before you even wrote it lol

you're by far the best creator in this niche and i say that as someone who's fully rooted in this niche.

Babe wake up, new coolea video.

The original reverb petal was called "Help, I'm trapped in a giant coffee can device"

This video pretty much tells me what’s wrong with every generation of guitarists since the 60s; you all seem to believe that guitar exists in some kind of rock-vacuum and completely ignore the instruments existence in classical, jazz, flamenco, R&B, disco etc. Modern virtuosos look to these fringe-genres and include their styles into modern alternative music, these genres are much more technical than blues rock yet have a ton of emotional depth because playing emotionally is nothing more than controlling dynamics, tempo and pitch. The boomer bends thing is clearly flippant humour, and of course this kid respects Jimi, you can hear a ton of it in his playing. As a musician in their 40s who has enjoyed most popular generations of guitar I believe this blanket conceptualisation of “feel” in music needs to end and we should embrace players who seek to push the medium further.

@flyingpiggy1475

22 күн бұрын

“Emotion vs technical” is so stupid. As a drummer, I don't see this divide in our culture. There are probably some people who are like “You are doing too much” in response to drummers but they are most likely right. Drummers do stupid shit, but that's just because we like pushing our boundaries of what we can play. The only rules we generally have is 1. Keep time 2. Support the band 3. Sound good. We are forced to learn genres and styles that make us expand our understanding of music and really understand how we matter to the band.

@DeNieuweBeelding

6 күн бұрын

Pray God spare us from classical-jazz-flamenco alternative music.

The earliest surviving stringed instruments to date are the Lyres of Ur, plucked chordophones, which currently exist in fragments that date back to 4,500 years ago. The first bowed chordophones were probably developed in central Asia and were the forerunners of an Indian folk instrument known as the ravanastron. Sumer, 26th C. BCE. The Schøyen Collection, Oslo. Instruments of ancient Mesopotamia include harps, lyres, lutes, reed pipes, and drums.

Imagine collaborating with Steve Vai and not writing a single key change.

If we forget a moment about the cultural and historic value of classic rock/blues etc, there is a significant difference that is often overlooked. Music nowadays tends to be made in a more mechanical and refined way, expecially thanks to computers and easy access to music recording. I prefer the older way of actually playing music on the record, instead of many parts that end up becoming a song when out togheter. Even in the old days they used the studio to modify and push some aspects to create the best product, but it was more natural and groovy. Nowadays (expecially with rock/metal music) there is a focus on "attack" of the notes, a more staccato feel, that has no swing to it. And it's not about speed either, it's simply the feel and vibe musicians put into it. I respect so much guys like Polyphia, Animals as leaders etc but when i listen to early Santana records i go into a trance. The way the distorted guitar adds melody and so many harmonic nuances is insane to me. It's also something that is evident when the music is played live; i would rather listen a slow guitar player who has full control of his bends and the feedback of the amp, rather than a virtuoso shredder who plays with tons of distorsion and noisegate, without providing any emotional depth to what he plays. Again, this is not a diss to modern musicians, just my two cents on something i am recently discovering about the way i listen and appreciate music. IMO these modern virtuoso players are pushing the envelope and evolving the music, but they are more of technicians of their art rather than artists that will be the soundtrack of this generations of musicians, artists in a more "traditional" way, if that makes any sense lol. P.S. i wrote this before i watched the video hope i won't sound stupid

Bucket head is the perfect combination of technicality and emotional playing

That intro about the guitar was amazing! Great content!

Great video, I'd love to hear you talk more about the topic of technicality and musicality. I feel like the fact that music existed for so long before notation is lost on many people, even musicians

@funoolesbian4225

26 күн бұрын

It's important to distinguish between a juggler and an artist. The general function of art is to inspire awe. If an artist can produce that awe with barely passable technique, then that artist may be a genius.

I can't have comfortably numb, purple haze, hotel California, and champagne(a polyphia song) all in one playlist cuz I must conform to internet arguments.

"1940s Strat" ffs

This the first video i've seen with coolea's actual face and for about 5 seconds i was trying to understand that it wasn't a sped up footage of someone rambling. This channel dissociates me from reality and i like it

Gotta say the editing and the content is top tier. Big ups G we movin' savannah koi packs on the ranger ya dig.

Best part being born in the 90’s in this regard is enjoying the music left behind by artist and seeing new music unfold, to which it could be considered alien back then as you mentioned earlier. 🤘🏾

I took Tim Henson's comments as just not being a big fan of things like unison bends, and by extension, a lot of repetitive pentatonic licks that every classic rock band and modern rock band and a lot of metal bands, tend to use a LOT. I don't really understand what the "controversy" is. A guy giving an opinion that upsets some elderly people regarding the music that he prefers to write? I'd imagine that if Polyphia were to write music that sounded too much like what 'boomers' like, they'd be accused of being unoriginal and just aping off the success of bands that came before them. Not to mention, their sound changed pretty dramatically between Renaissance and The Most Hated, they seemed to incorporate a lot more elements that are reminiscent of trap music and what have you, having that "overproduced" sound that some people dislike. I think that it's pretty obvious that Tim Henson is insanely talented, and I would imagine that trying to incorporate other more popular genres into his own music is probably quite rewarding for him.

For me, emotions are the most important thing in music, complicated techniques can be phenomenal when they are used FOR emotions, but when we focus on technique for technique's sake, we lose what music has always been about - emotions

my personal opinion about music is if I like it I like it

Are people really trying to argue Polyphia aren't enjoyable to listen to when they have more monthly listeners than Vai and Satriani combined ? Like I'd understand sheer listens don't count since they could be one time listeners, but people are clearly coming back to this stuff

The amount of players that think "technical means no emotion" leaves me flabbergasted. Good vid.

@LongLiveRockAnRoll

26 күн бұрын

I always ask those people to "define emotion" in a musical context. Speed can be used to show feelings like anger, excitement and just over the top chaos.

@milkwalkerjones633

26 күн бұрын

You'd think people like that would really enjoy Prurient and the like but they turn up their nose at that too

@GeorgiyM.

25 күн бұрын

*Julian Lage has entered the chat*

@Billiamwoods

23 күн бұрын

A lot of the time the people who say a style or band lacks emotion just don't connect with or understand the emotional goal of that music. Polyphia's music is heavily produced and "clean" as a conscious decision to create a very surreal and ethereal soundscape. Not all "emotion" is doing le guitar face to exaggerated bends.

@oshke5225

23 күн бұрын

@@Billiamwoods Well said. I never understood why boomers have a difficult time understanding this. Technicality is just another way to convey certain emotions.

You have a guitar, why wouldn't you use bends??? Like, no many instruments have that possibility. Also, I have heard many Henson songs and while they sound cool, i don't remember a single melody. I can sing any David Gilmour solo full of boomer bends

@Billiamwoods

23 күн бұрын

I mean, you're comparing solos and riffs. This is like saying "well I can't sing a single Bonham drum part". I don't even listen to Polyphia, but the guitar is clearly somewhat percussive.

@dylanphelan3010

23 күн бұрын

for me personally, bending doesn't feel right under my fingers, I prefer slides. On the matter of David Gilmour bends, it's not the bends themselves that people like, it's the melody and the phrasing. You can be just as good as Gilmour at bending the notes with feel but if you hit the bad sounding notes, it doesn't matter

@ItsMeBarnaby

20 күн бұрын

Nobody is saying that you shouldn't use bends or that bending is a negative in any way.

@Yvs8962

17 күн бұрын

As an avid Polyphia listener, they have very easily singable melodies, and if you cant remember them you probably just havent listened to them enough. I literally have a video from when I saw them live where they partially played the beginning riff of one of their songs, and when they stopped the crowd sang the rest of the riff, and then they dropped into playing the full song. Amazing crowd work and proof that they have singable melodies if you know them.

@matturner6890

17 күн бұрын

@@dylanphelan3010 I think you're just lowkey butthurt that you can't bend. I absolutely listen to Gilmour because he's a master of it. Don't speak for everyone just cause you can't bend lol. Also, "for me personally" is redundant.

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@BigMacAttack83

26 күн бұрын

That comment totally made me sound like a bot lol, but I mean it. I've probably watched 95+% of your videos and am genuinely excited when I see you post a new video. Also I'm pretty stoned 😆

I found that bands like Radiohead, Porcupine Tree, Opeth, and Plini can give me a mix of complexity and emotional relevance that I enjoy at this point. Allan Holdsworth and Kurt Rosenwinkel are also guitarists who can still get a reaction out of me through their respective complexity, but I also love what Hendrix was able to get across with just one note in Machine Gun.

I wonder where does 80's noise rock falls in this silly discussion because I'm pretty sure both the hard rock/prog turbonerds and djent and metalcore degenerates would get flabbergasted at prepared guitars and how Sonic Youth and Big Black played their guitars.

@alleygh0st

26 күн бұрын

and Polvo in the 90s

@freq9939

25 күн бұрын

Swans, sonic youth, Blind Idiot God, unwound big fan of noise rock

@Falxifer95

25 күн бұрын

@@freq9939 same

@freq9939

24 күн бұрын

One would say it’s progressive in it’s own right or regressive haha

Boomer Bends > pansy plucks

@bandolierboy1908

26 күн бұрын

Lmao fr

@meinbherpieg4723

25 күн бұрын

LMFAO🤣🤣

@Snyperwolf91

24 күн бұрын

Always going for the Boom , bro !

@j.2512

19 күн бұрын

I pick Boomer over femboy, every time

You're not wrong. I would just add that everyone from Jimi to Tosin, did what they did primarily because it just felt good to them. I don't think that most artists set out to intentionally move music in a new direction. They're just having fun playing what they like to play. 🙂

I feel like music like Tim Henson and his contemporaries play is more “music for musicians” and theirs noting wrong with that. It’s not my cup of tea but I can appreciate the skill and work that goes into it.

@solivoritor

18 күн бұрын

To be fair, it's mostly instrumental music and it has always been like this.

@kevinsmoon3257

9 күн бұрын

I’m a musician nor particularly good or anything but i dont really like polyphia. It just is too much for me and it’s muddy in my opinion. I always say that the main goal of all the instruments is to serve the song but polyphia is just so emotionless and way too over produced. It is over complicated to the point that the song is no longer being served instead you are just complicating riffs and melodies Because you can not because it fits

@solivoritor

8 күн бұрын

@@kevinsmoon3257 I'm not a musician but I dabble a little bit in the instrument and quite frankly I personally don't have problem with their music anymore. It's wasn't easy for me to understand the melodies/songs nor was it easy for me to find "emotion" in them at first, I still kinda like them even if I didn't get it, at first. Well, not all but most of the songs. But with time I started to understand it, melodically and "emotionally" and started loving it and so imo, they still follow the rules of the instruments serving the music. As for production, yeah, it's inspired by pop music, it's bound to have extremely high production. I mean these guys work with rappers and pop stars most of the time. All-in-all Polyphia is very niched music, it's divisive; not everyone is going to vibe with them and there's nothing wrong with that, human tastes is quite subjective and is inspired by the experiences we went through and that includes music. But as someone that does vibe with it, I have to say, it has been my favourite over the years.

@kevinsmoon3257

8 күн бұрын

@@solivoritor and that’s completely fine my friend. It just is something to me that i dont think i can really get into. Don’t get me wrong i understand the complexity of their music but it just isnt my thing

@solivoritor

8 күн бұрын

@@kevinsmoon3257 it's all cool, man.

The whole point of "bending" was always to approximate just-intonation on an instrument that wasn't designed for melody in the first place.

The Korg Miku is the pinnacle of guitar evolution

Lots of Blues music was trying to replicate the sound and feel of passing trains. The rhythm was the steady chugging on the tracks and the slides were the whistling horns of the trains. The vocals would simply tell a story over the train beat. Real cool stuff in my opinion.

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The first strats were build in the 50s, not the 40s

Old school boomer bends can get a little stale but when it's boomers with mojo like Stevie Ray, Hendrix or even Robbie Kreiger it never gets old.

29 year old here. My favorite band will always be Led Zeppelin because I owe them so much with my rock/guitar awakening, but I’m super into the modern prog movement and Polyphia as well. I don’t take any offense to what Tim said. I can’t remember where I heard this, but in order to innovate you have to limit yourself. If Tim just played the same way guitarists have been playing for 60 years now, he’d just be another guy. It’s not bad to play Boomer Bends, even today. Tosin Abasi plays many complex modern riffs and innovates, but some of my favorite songs of his contain emotional bends in the solos. There are even emotional bends in Polyphia songs, although as their career has progressed that has become less and less common. Fact of the matter is, it’s possible to appreciate many artists of many drastically different styles of both music and guitar.

The best kind of complicated, technical music, is the kind that sounds deceptively simple, or that still manages to convey an emotion through an actual song. Virtuosity for virtuosity’s sake is not art, it’s sports.

@MrKingkz

22 күн бұрын

I agree with 100 percent Virtuosity can be useful but i dont remember any Steve Vai riffs but i remember most of Nirvana riffs

@zaydjawad3653

21 күн бұрын

​@@MrKingkzTbf Vai still makes some bangers but yeah I agree with the og point

@gitsurfer27

21 күн бұрын

@@MrKingkz I'm a fan of both in some ways, although i totally agree, Vai is like a teacher showing his students techniques that only they care about, Cobain plays timeless music from the soul. Technically Vai is a better guitarist, but that means nothing when we're talking about music. Tim Henson is another virtuoso thats very good and plays good technically, but i would never sit and listen to a Polyphia album.

@Yvs8962

17 күн бұрын

Agreed, but Polyphia is far from virtuosity for virtuosities sake. They compose a lot of banger melodies within all the technique. People act like their songs are just technical vomit and spamming sweep scales, when Ive never heard a song theyve made that lacks a hook and melody. I literally have a video of them live where they stop playing mid-riff and the crowd sings back their guitar parts to them.

That chick in Polyphia is really good at guitar

@vlada

21 күн бұрын

Is she the new Smashing Pumpkins guitarist?

@j.2512

19 күн бұрын

imagine listening to the opinions of a femboy robot

Honestly, this is pretty solid analysis. But also, seeing your mug for the first time swipes me just how apt your little goblin/gremlin avatar is. So funny, dude. Anyway, good job.

People in the 60's and 70's even thought that "progressive" pieces were bloviated self indulgent heaps. This is the natural swing of culture: there is a movement, a limitation, and a response. Maybe this Polyphia era has outlived it's current form, and there will be a new cycle, whether based out of nostalgia or a progression, much like Punk was a response to Jimmy Page using a violin bow for 20 minutes on stage.

I like that u are golbin

40s strat ? WTF

@MarcusDugan

22 күн бұрын

Came here to say the same thing. It doesn't feel very well researched.

I don’t think he knows what a boomer bend is. Modern styles actually use a lot of bends. I saw the video with Tim. He was referring to specific dissonant penatonic intervals. There was also a follow up interview. He said he does like them, but wouldn’t use them for his style. He said if he wanted to record a retro 80s song, that he would use them

I once wrote a solo for a song that was just a high D note and bending it. After about 1.5 minutes of this the audience usually stops sincerely cheering and starts laughing. I suppose subconsciously I was taking the piss out of classic rock solos- or more accurately hacks that think they're soloing. That said, I have almost no skills other than a decent ear. Like, I can "find that D" but when I say it out loud it just sounds wrong somehow.