Hi this video series is invaluable. I have one question, I plan to install my modified deeper into my boat, but I understand it will need a wifi booster similar to the one you use for the ray marine. Can you tell me which one you used or which would be suitable for the deeper.

@TheCarpPilot

4 ай бұрын

In the video series I used this (and also used the same some years back with a Deeper): www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006292467945.html

Hi. Great series, could I use a deeper instead of Raymarine ??? Would you know how to set one up using all the components that you have listed ? Great video.

@TheCarpPilot

Жыл бұрын

The boat used as illustration (the same hull) is built with a Deeper, a booster and the same Skydroid T10. This works flawlessly. However, the backup telemetry using a wifi ESP adapter is kind of more difficult. Reason is that the Deeper's SSID is quite long (more than 16 characters, which is the macig number for many wifi telemetry adapters). I know that someone is working to fix that. But if you use the Skydroid radio then that is nothing to worry about. And the DHconcepts hull of the "ALPHAmini" is actually even designed for fitting in a Deeper (recess in the bottom hull on both sides).

@stuartgriffiths4299

Жыл бұрын

@@TheCarpPilot Thanks for the reply, I have a Alpha Mini shell from Dennis that I am building.

@TheCarpPilot

Жыл бұрын

@@stuartgriffiths4299 in the next video the Deeper's position (where to mount) will also be shown. The hull has a recess on either side intended for the Deeper. I drilled a 42mm hole, glued it from the inside and finished off gluing thereafter from the outside. You will understand when I show some pictures.

@carppilot: the working from the autopilot is fully seperated from the fishfinder?

@TheCarpPilot

Жыл бұрын

The autopilot uses it's separate telemetry data stream. Two ways to implement that is shown in video 2 and 3: using a Skydroid T10 rc Radio with built in support for mavlink, and a wifi UDP adapter that uses the wifi of the echosounder as carrier for the telemetry data

Hi , love the video very informative and well presented 👍 could you please tell if me though is the telemetry and Raymarine both 2.4ghz? Do they not interfere with each other ? Thank you

@TheCarpPilot

8 ай бұрын

In this case the remote transmitter (that carries the telemetry) and the Raymarine wifi both 2.4 GHz. And they will then interfere. In addition, the water will limit the possible distance you can hope to achieve (the distances possible for a drone up in the air cannot be compared to a boat with its antenna heights measured only in a few centimeters above water level). Some transmitters are nototious in this regard. Like the trusty old Flysky I6X (although this has no telemetry support, for comparison this is transmitter is known to significantly interfere and limit the achievable distance for the Raymarine). Now, it is possible to play around with the channel used by the Raymarine wifi before altering it (the screen head unit must be used) as not all channels will be impacted equally). Not all transmitters are equal, so such testing may pay off before gluing the Raymarine in. Then, for reference, I did some range testing with this boat. And for safety reasons I activated the failsafe for GCS, and made sure the failsafe action was RTL (if the Carp Pilot Pro lost communication with the autopilot, the boats returns back home - I did not want to swim out to rescue it). I put out a marker 600 meters away. Then touched it to trigger the boat to drive to it an stop. And then watched what happened with Carp Pilot Pro and Raymarine's wifish app in split screen. Making several tests: I found that, using Skydroid radio for telemetry, the Raymarine app lost the echo sounder at approx 430 meters. For this testing I then drowe back home until the Wifish app once again worked. After being satisfied with this test I tested my secondary telemetry, the wifi UDP adapter that sends its data through the Raymarine wifi. Powered off my SKydroid, and connected using UDP. And retested. This time I typically got until 390 meters (397 being the best result), and then the GCS failsafe kicked in and returned my boat before the wifish app would freeze up. To summarize: For me, distances of around 400 meters is fully satisfying. I never fish further away. I never really tested the max telemetry distance with Skydroid. But what I hear from others is that at least 600 m is achievable in combo with the Raymarine. Now, would the Raymarine distance be better if I have also removed the Skydroing receiver in the boat? Probably. At least such effects I have personally witnessed with an older boat I have with the said Flysky. And could you get a similar effect if you use transmitter with say 868MHz instead of 2.4 GHz? Most likely.

@Blupa.

8 ай бұрын

@@TheCarpPilot Thank you for the comprehensive reply , best regards

@Blupa.

8 ай бұрын

@@TheCarpPilot Hi , I have the Raymarine installed as you have in the hull combined with the Skydroid controller and Carp pilot pro app/Raymarine Wi-Fish installed . I have a Wi-Fi booster in the boat same as yours but it is NOT connected via a sma cable to the circuit board. I am losing readings at about 80metres from the Raymarine , does this mean I definitely have to connect the Wi-Fi via a cable to the Raymarine unit ? I know how to do it by moving the resistor on the Wi-Fi board and soldering a mini sma connector in but is it totally necessary as I only need 180 metres ? The Raymarine is also running very slow on the scroll screen , Many thanks in advance

@TheCarpPilot

8 ай бұрын

@@Blupa. That Booster takes an input signal and enhances it. The only way it can do that is by sitting between the "router" (in our case that is the Raymarine) and the antenna. It has two antenna connectors. One for the router (your Raymarine) and one for the antenna. And it only works with those physical connections. To use this booster there is no way you cannot first modify that Raymarine. Not explained in the video... This is Kot the ONLY way to increase the raymarine distance. You can also implement a router inside the boat. In bridge (not Extender) mode. One router that works is the Vonets VAP11S. Please do not als me how to. Because I never did. But there are Videos out there showing how to. I believe with a Deeper. But the principle is the same. And... You can have another router (also Vonets) on shore. And link everything up with two routers. And likely see 500 meters as a result. Still want to use that booster then do that soldering. Don't know how to, find someone that can help. Soldering too difficult (yes, you can damage that Raymarine for sure) the try the router way. Best of luck.

@TheCarpPilot

8 ай бұрын

You should look up the Carp Pilot Pro User group on Facebook. It is private, but just ask to join. The community is growing and there are many who have insight and can help.

hello, good luck with the project. just a question why not put thrusters it would save space in the boat.

@TheCarpPilot

Жыл бұрын

Not a bad idea. But the motors selected are anyway tiny. And it is not just space causing challenges. Weight is equally important. The chosen motors weigh in at 57 grams (although the weight of the shank also comes in addition). All parts are bought in, so I will proceed as planned here :-)

@olacarpe6676

Жыл бұрын

​@@TheCarpPilot ok that was just an idea since it's a small boat. Can't wait to see it finished. great the last 2 video 👏👏👏 always on top you 🏆

Do you use a PDB (power distribution board) ? How do you decrease voltage for the ESC ? Can you explain this ? Wiring diagram is not clear to me. Thanks

@TheCarpPilot

5 ай бұрын

No PDB. The ESC get the raw power from the batteries (you need to chose an ESC that is compatible with the battery voltage). And for the servo side, the power is provided by a BEC from one of the ESC. I think the description in the video and in the drawing is pretty accurate.

Do you need a Skydroid t10 radio to build a boat. Or can I use a regular Flysky or radiolink remote

@TheCarpPilot

Жыл бұрын

You can use both alternatives. But then also add a solution for the telemetry connection (like the adapter I use in my videos as a secondary telemetry option, I believe it is video #3). If not the Carp Pilot Pro cannot talk to the pixhawk inside your boat. I used Skydroid as it can handle the telemetry as well over the remote control link. But it costs money, far more than a simple wifi adapter for around €10...

@jackholding9010

Жыл бұрын

@@TheCarpPilot ok thanks for the quick reply. So either my existing flysky i6x or a radiolink t8fb radio would suffice providing I use a secondary telemetry connection? I have an existing twin hull bait boat which is powered by 2 brushed motors and escs using 2x 6v lead acid batteries these can be upgraded to 2s Lipo if required. My boat is a big lake mk3

@jackholding9010

Жыл бұрын

Also can you use an omnibus f4 aio is the flight controller/autopilot

@TheCarpPilot

Жыл бұрын

@@jackholding9010 i do not know it. Look it up on the ardupilot wiki. They support a wide range of autopilots, and list them with info and links.

how to connect servos? Does the servo need a separate power supply?

@TheCarpPilot

Жыл бұрын

You should watch more of the videos, but even the first one states this clearly: Usin this pixhawk the servo outputs must be powered separately. Using a 5V BEC. I used a BEC that is in a ESC in my video. As also indicated clearly in the drawing.

How to know what’s the proper motors to use if i have another boat with another dimensions?

@TheCarpPilot

8 ай бұрын

Not an easy question to answer. But the KZread boat is small (44 cm, 4.5 kg with batteries and thrower). I just mounted motors in a bigger boat (60 cm and more heavy) and put in Propdrive V2 3536 910 KV into it. The KV value is a bit high for boats. Better to find one with like 500 KV, better for boats. The thrower motor is insane. I had to tune it down to 1650 max PWM output and do it momentary for only 1 second. It ran so fast that the basket widened on the top and I was afraid it may cut my antenna in half.